Hello Everyone! I have started a new channel called "Roar!" where I try out challenges and push myself out of my comfort zone. You can check it out here: ruclips.net/user/roarrawr
You can benefit from these IEMs because the sound isolation allows you to keep the audio level low for mobile listening. With earbuds you have to crank the volume up to drown out external sounds. Look at the affordable and durable Shure models.
@@j_freed This is so true as I was recently told But which brands make these for on the go commuters? I looked at Shure and Sennheiser but am not aware which models are ideal for what you mentioned.
same. Sound is a complicated thing and there's way more science behind it than most of us think about. I teach a class related to my profession about once every three-four weeks and sometimes that class gets rescheduled to take place in a different room and I have to use a microphone in a big, open room under noisy AC ducts and it's terrible. There's a slight delay that makes it hard to listen to myself while I'm trying to speak around my own echo and ignore the delay and it throws off my whole speaking cadence. And that's just one microphone in one room. I can appreciate the concept of having an IEM even though I'm just one guy with one mic. I have a new appreciation for sound engineers that are working to get it right through multiple microphones, amplifiers, PA, the acoustics of the venue, audience noise, echo and reverberation....
Thank you, hope you're doing well. I'm not a musician, I just like to listen to music. I just bought KZ ZS10 pro IEMs, should I invest in custom molded silicone eartips for better sound quality? Or normal ones would be ok?
I've watched video of Freddie Mercury at Live Aid 85 and I cannot believe how he managed to sing well in that stadium environment without ear monitors.
The Beatles during their Shea stadium concerts too, they couldn't even hear each other anymore because of the fangirls' ear shattering screams, without in ear monitors and with mediocre soundsystems, that in the end they just played by instinct lol
I actually experienced this. I was playing in a band many years ago, and our music was so loud that I couldn't hear what I was playing. It was like playing 'blind'...just placing fingers on the fret board not really hearing what I was producing. It's an amazing phenomena.
Haa Haa. When I was a kid.. I thought that’s for security purposes. Like someone in the crowd has a bomb.. then the staff/bouncers can easily notify the singer to run ahahahaha.
At age 70+ and lover of all things music since 1957, I am unboxing my stored original 300+ vinyl that I have lugged all around the world. A clean stereo system for my den is a must (turntable/amplifier/bookshelf speakers, etc.). I have hearing loss and tinnitus from aircraft engines and gunfire (long story). Now I wear Resound hearing aids that give me welcome assistance with conversations and the phone app helps somewhat at live concerts. Your video cleared up many questions I've wondered about. Thank you. Miss Beth, you are a great teacher.
The first time my bass player used in-ears, he said it was like playing along to a CD. I had been using in-ears for a few years but we as a band decided to buy a system for the whole band for many of the reasons you mentioned. Individual mixes, no onstage monitors reducing feedback, etc. Sound guys loved us for it because they didn't have to mix our monitor mixes....we did it ourselves! Great vid!
I used to sing in choirs and I always used to wonder how rock singers actually could stay in tune when there was a screaming crowd. Its hard to sing in tune if you can't hear yourself
That’s why singing live is so much harder than everyone realizes - you don’t get to hear the song with your voice in it, you sing with an instrumental version and have to stay in key with not much guidance. You can hear when performers ear pieces don’t work because they sound a little off key. Also, performing in a stadium/arena where it’s echoing constantly makes it hard to hear yourself and stay in key.
I think I remember Paul McCartney saying they kept looking at each other to see where they were in the song. Can you imagine noticing you were half a beat off and having to catch up while playing and singing.
I'm 27 years old, but have been playing gigs in loud settings since I was about 15 years old. I've been noticing a decline in my hearing health for some time now, and I will definitely convince my band to switch to in-ears!
From a hearing health point of view, (and sound quality too) I'd like to weight in. You may often see performers with one IEM in and one out, usually hanging down from their. While this may look cool, it should NOT be done. Removing one IEM drastically reduces the sound quality, removes the isolation and therefore protection from that ear, and most likely will cause you to turn up the remaining IEM to (over) compensate, leading to hearing damage in that ear too. Use both. It's why they come as a pair. They're designed to work as a pair.
From a musician's and health professional's combined point of view, when you are a singer as well as an instrumentalist and are only wired systematically to hear yourself sing, you must take one out to hear your instrument as you play or to hear to sing harmony with someone, or to hear someone else's instrument or to customize sound.. It all depends on how you are set up.. It's not at all to look cool. Do your research or you sound stupid. And either way has equal effect on ear health, and it doesn't make a difference because it's not any louder or quieter with either one in or out, and loud music will eventually ruin your hearing no matter what.
Excellent! There's way more to the singing art than just singing or playing an instrument. One must be conscious of auditory health... And again Beth roars loudly in defense of clear singing and hearing! Thank you!!
My late grandfather used to play the saxophone with a band. He had a piece of plastic with a hole cut in it that would be clipped in the front of his saxophone so some of those sound would come back towards him.
Great video! My favorite band is Pentatonix, and way back in 2014 or so, they were filmed getting their new, better, earbuds, and each one sounded absolutely thrilled. At the time I didn't get it, but after your explanation, it all makes sense. Thank you!
I’ve never quite gotten used to the different sound quality of me singing when I have an in-ear in. Therefore, if I use an in-ear, I use only one, and use a hi-fi attenuating ear plug in the other, which gives me more access to hearing my voice and the music and crowd while still bringing the volume down to safe levels. Perhaps one day, I’ll adapt to using in-ears, but for now, I’m only half-way in.
I’m not a performer or even musician but I’m just a huge fan of high quality audio. Got myself a set of custom IEM’s from Ultimate Ears. Love them so much!!
If you've spent much time onstage with a rock band, you know that there are actually 3 separate sound systems that matter. One is the sound the audience hears. The band never gets to hear that. In fact, if they did, those speakers would provide horrible feedback and nothing would work. The second sound system is your own amp. Musicians often stand in front of those (not necessarily), in order to hear how their own sound is developing. This isn't necessarily something that works out. I recall a few times standing in front of my own 1200 watt amp, and not actually being able to hear it because of the other sound onstage. It is notoriously futile to try to hear the drums by standing in front of them, because the whole noise profile is a mush. That may be hard to believe, but fact. The noise can be blinding, and obliterate any attempt to hear by simply listening to those around you. The third is the monitor system, be it monitor speakers on the ground in front of you, facing away from the audience or earbuds. Now, here's the thing. You don't necessarily want to hear everything in the monitors. What you want to hear are the clues that you need to be able to perform your part of the music. If you are a guitarist, for example, you want some of your feed, definitely the drums and definitely the lead vocalist. If you are the lead guitarist you'd want enough of the rhythm and bass to at least know if they are breaking, but not the full intensity. In other words, this sound isn't anything close to what you hear in the audience, by design. It is the sound you need to make your breaks and stay on rhythm. The worst sound in the room is gonna be for the musicians. This is also why I cringe whenever someone in the audience later complains about someone being too loud or too weak. No musician onstage can possibly know that.
As a drummer I spent 1200€ for my InEars about 13 years ago. Looking back, it was the best investment into music equipment I ever made. Not only at stage, but also at rehearsals in small rooms it saves my hearing. Never again without it, and I would recomment it to every musician who plays amplified.
@@albertweedsteinthethuggeni7797 I dediced to buy the second best model from JH Audio with 4 drivers on each side, and of course fitted for my ears. I still use them on every rehearsal, only changed the cable 2-3 times. The top model was around 1600€ as far as I remember.
@@umm8446What do you mean with "a normal pair"? Those are handmade customized pieces from a mold, that was made from my inner ear channel. It slips deep into the ear, the output tubes just in front of the eardrum. Each side has 2 bass, 1 mid and 1 high frequence driver, so I can hear my bassdrum clearly in the mix. The inear also protects the ear from loud sounds around me, I think it has a 27dB attenuation, thats nearly all of the sound from outside. You can't compare them to a set of inears used with your phone.
I remember the Bee Gees whenever the singer would sing he would put his finger into his ear, it kinda works on the same principal by allowing your inner ear to hear yourself. Try it now it does work : )
My number one recommendation for in-ear monitoring: give them a chance. If you've played with wedges for years, adopting in-ear monitoring can take several shows (up to 6 or 7) to get used to. Experiment with how they fit in your ears; try different sized inserts (round rubber thing that goes into your ear). Work with your sound engineer to dial in what you want to hear. If you're lucky enough to be using a digital mixer, you can use an app on your phone to dial in what you want without bothering the sound engineer. Power through these challenges and experiment with the mix and take notes. The transition can be tough, but it's worth the effort. You'll hear only what you want to hear and you'll preserve your hearing.
An added benefit - in-ear systems give a band the ability to 'talk to themselves' between songs. If you've seen the Dave Matthews Band in concert they're pioneers in this. Between songs, their engineer sets the program and voila Dave & the Band are all talking to each other privately (with the Sound Engineer & Lighting/Video Director included). Perhaps one of the reason(s) why Dave always turns his back to the audience between songs (so the audience doesn't see him talking and not hearing), a joke gets told, pizza orders confirmed and maybe a set list change ? Or, as an audience watching, suddenly the band starts laughing amongst themselves for no apparent reason to the audience. Brilliant set-up. And this is a great video.
To hear the amps or drums on stage(whether for personal preference of the organic sound, or because they aren't happy with the mix in their IEMs and only need one to hear themselves), allow for conversation with band mates or crew, or hear the crowd
As someone who does a lot of FoH, I was so thrilled when the group I do sound for moved to IEMs as I could stop worrying about feedback from the wedges. The downside is that often the IEMs don't play loud enough for the performers' preferences so sometimes they end up with IEMs AND a wedge.
This is very interesting from the perspective of a hearing aid user. I’m sure most of the advancements of hearing aid technology comes from the music industry. I love my hearing aids, they are Bluetooth and they allow me to enjoy music, talking on the phone and RUclips videos a lot more than without them.
Hi Beth, I enjoyed your video, and you've answered lots of my questions. I'm not even sure how they prevent howl-around! I remember Michael Jackson during "This is It" rehearsals, complaining of the restricted sound from the ear pieces, being used to listening naturally. Thank you for a great video.
I started using them by accident kind of. I forgot i had my regular earbuds in during rehearsal with my band one day, and pretty quickly realized the resonance inside my head worked like it's own internal monitor, so I didn't have to push while singing. You can hear where you're singing from--head, chest, whether you're being nasal, using grit/distortion properly, etc. and fix things on the fly with confidence. That was my catalyst for using IEMs. I definitely recommend having a set that has some feature that allows SOME outside sound though. Think of it like those really good headphones with the ambient noise feature--It lets in enough so that you can hear things you need to for safety reasons, while still attenuating loud sounds and providing that internal monitor just by pure physiology of having something shoved inside your ear.
Oh this was an interesting and informative video. Really helps us to better understand and participate in the experience of the live performances we love.
Beth,great explanations about I.E's,I'm a drummer and have been using these now for quite a while and ,for me,are so much better than having a fold-back speaker right next to me also adding to onstage noise.In the past all of us had our own f/b speakers,now we all use I/E's and the stage is quite clean.Stay safe and well.
As a beginner in the "at home studio" youtube singer/musician... i found this very interesting. I might not need the full in ear treatment as I'm not blocking out live crowd noise or blasting speakers but I think the idea will help me setup my own "mix" for a better recording performance. Thanks for this oldie but goodie :)
How can anyone dislike this? Everything in this video is well made and pleasant.. from the"Roar, roar.. Rawn!" intro to the lighting, audio quality, easy language, solid info, timing, design, etc. Great job, Beth! I didn't know you 20min ago, but I'm already subscribed! All the best!
Thanks for sharing. Very well explained. First video I've watched about in ears. Been curious ever since I seen Adam Lambert take one out while singing " Believe" in front of Cher.
It's for singers to hear themselves. I sing and the reason why someone has to take them off is so that you can hear the music around you and blend with them well. Sometimes when I have them on and I feel a little bit pitchy, I take them off to hear the music. So when you see singers take them off, that means they could hear themselves being pitchy and have to be back in tune.
Though I've both sung, and played my guitar with an audience present, I've never done so with an audience that made a lot of noise, or even a little noise. When I perform, I listen to the other performers around me, and to myself. Thinking about it now, I can't imagine performing in any venue where I'd prefer an in ear monitor. Interesting video though. Thanks
Great educational work you`ve done Beth . I`ve learned from it , thank you . I have had fitted hearing aids since the early 90`s .One thing I did notice then was with a perfect fit between the hard plastic & sensitive inner ear can after a while cause a slight swelling in the ear canal . It wasn`t a uniform fit any more , which led to an outside noise SHHHH type feedback . Although newer ones have worked past much of this . They can still have problems becoming dislodged by taking on and off glasses , face masks, motorbike helmets etc . I`ve already lost a right side this way. Noise induced hearing loss caused me to lose most of my ability to understand speech and that includes song lyrics which should give meaning to the work. At 3 to 4 thousand D B I have profound hearing loss .
I still remember the first time I played guitar performing with the band in the hall (at the university), I dont really know what is the function of those on stage monitor, until I start practicing before the live performance with the band. Without those monitor, I can barely hear what I play, just a lot of noise 🤣. (sorry for my english)
I had an idea that they were used for this but I have to admit I watched this video so I could just melt listening to your voice and accent, so well spoken ! 😍
Good explanation of everything! Love your channel! Interesting history on in-ear development... Anyway, I play in bands and in-ears are definitely great! I especially love them since I play bass and am near the drummer most of the time. If I didn't have them I wouldn't be able to hear the other singers as good or myself. It definitely helps when you have a good sound mixer guy who can get you a good mix in your ears where both your instrument and voice and other voices sound reasonably good. Makes things so much easier and since in-ears act as ear plugs too, hardly any damage to the ears, love it!
Good stuff Beth... I've been thinking of getting a pair for my motorcycle riding to enhance our bike-to-bike communication and reduce wind noise.....RAWR!
Yes, when things got loud in rock music the singer could not hear themselves. At Woodstock in 1969, Grace Slick put a finger in her ear during "White Rabbit" to get some sound from her voice. I doubt they had any stage feedback monitors there.
10:52 now a day, even if you have only one console, you definitely can have your own mix, meybe even with one of the cheap analog mixer, you can't get every single band member their own mix, but you can definitely have a separate mix for your lead vocal or who is the most important to need a separate mix, because even a affordable analog mixer or console will definitely have at least one aux output.
Hearing health is for real. I have hearing loss in the left ear from going to so many concerts as a youngster without any ear protection. I cringe when I think about it. And as an amateur singer I know how important it is to protect your vocal chords.
I own a pair for when I DJ and the it makes life so much easier when mixing. The sound is amazing and I am not interrupted by outside noise and I can perform better. I do use headphones most of the time but when I am DJing for large events I use my in ear monitors. Great post..!!
@@ewhartiii I dunno about that. Heard some song by Wings where Linda’s vocals were isolated and just the memory of it is painful. Yoko was in a class by herself tho...
There a US company I know for producing these devices for professional musicians called Ultimate Ears almost 20 years plus mow. Back in the early 70s I wondered why the drummer for the band Chicago would wear headphones while performing, and now with you example of yours clarified that mystery. Back when I sound engineered for a small band introduced me to the quality of the Sennheiser brand for headphones in the late 70s. Good historical background of a small device responsible for creating a large impact on the entertainment industry.
First time I watch Beth and I subscribe immediately. For once, I get someone who is serious and professional about what she is talking about. Great content and delivery.
Great video and totally agree. Been singing and playing with custom in ears the last 4 years and it's been super helpful to me as a performer being able to hear the band and myself well and clearly. Even have a set as a studio engineer so I can hear the details as I'm recording. Kind of hard going back to wedges now when I have to.
I just stumbled into your channel and I have to say your video is very well made and informative - I like your pleasant and well articulated voice, it makes it much easier for a non native english speaker to understand you.
Great video. In the states I’ve always heard “wedges” referred to as “stage monitors” but I love that term wedges. It’s still descriptive and seems like a warmer more inviting term. Saying stage monitors comparatively seems kind of cold and industrial. Thanks for the info.
I remember seeing an interview with McCartney talking about Ringo's perfect timing, how they couldn't hear themselves at all, and that they could only feel the drums behind them to know where they should be.
@@BethRoars hi, I wanna know can you only hear yourself, or do u hear other people that's in your group too? Like kpop groups, they they hear, themselves, the member, and the mr?
I have often speculated they might be hearing the lyrics in their ear so as not to forget any words.. I can sing along with recorded music but often cannot remember all the words without that help. This is very informative. Thank you.
They can be used for various reasons. When you hear a band that is really tight, they’re probably usually using a click track similar to a metronome. They could add vocals previously recorded to help with mental cues just as you do when singing along with a song. The mix is personal.
Beth can you do more live lessons on your youtube channel? I enjoyed what you did during global lockdown, obviously it requires time to do lessons but I would like to continue with singing with your help
As a music listener you can benefit from these IEMs because the good sound isolation allows you to keep the audio level low for mobile listening. With earbuds you have to crank the volume up to drown out external sounds. Look at the affordable and durable Shure models, IEMs don't need to cost much more than a hundred or so for a good sounding set.
@@ozunkeskin6919 Why should I? These get the job done, I don't need more, they're just to isolate the sound from the outside, and to keep track of what I need to do next. I'd rather put my money elsewere.
Thanks for the video!, this is actually such an important aspect of live music that not everyone knows, even some amateur musicians (like me) don´t understand this basics.
I’m looking forward to getting some of these. I sing awful when I can’t hear myself and it’s quite discouraging, as I sing well in the studio, so hopefully this will help me as I was about to not sing live anymore.
Hello Everyone! I have started a new channel called "Roar!" where I try out challenges and push myself out of my comfort zone.
You can check it out here: ruclips.net/user/roarrawr
IN SHORT: So they can HEAR THEMSELVES SINGING, Protects their ears from loud noise since their close to those speakers.
Thank youuuuuu
Thank You So Much
Thank u I really didn’t wanna watch this vid but I wanted to know 😭
Thanks for the summary! The video was too long
Thank you ✨
I'm not a singer or musician, I just clicked to inform myself. Thanks for the video.
You can benefit from these IEMs because the sound isolation allows you to keep the audio level low for mobile listening.
With earbuds you have to crank the volume up to drown out external sounds. Look at the affordable and durable Shure models.
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@@j_freed This is so true as I was recently told But which brands make these for on the go commuters?
I looked at Shure and Sennheiser but am not aware which models are ideal for what you mentioned.
Same
same. Sound is a complicated thing and there's way more science behind it than most of us think about. I teach a class related to my profession about once every three-four weeks and sometimes that class gets rescheduled to take place in a different room and I have to use a microphone in a big, open room under noisy AC ducts and it's terrible. There's a slight delay that makes it hard to listen to myself while I'm trying to speak around my own echo and ignore the delay and it throws off my whole speaking cadence. And that's just one microphone in one room. I can appreciate the concept of having an IEM even though I'm just one guy with one mic. I have a new appreciation for sound engineers that are working to get it right through multiple microphones, amplifiers, PA, the acoustics of the venue, audience noise, echo and reverberation....
Professional monitor engineer here, great video! If anyone's got further questions about in-ears or monitors in general feel free to ask!
2nd Professional Touring Monitor Engineer here. I guess I'll chime in.
@@ryandouglas3312 Hope you're doing alright in this trying time for our industry, stay safe.
@@MrArcherRanger haven't worked since March 3, and no gigs in site. Nor unemployment.. You as well man!
Thank you, hope you're doing well.
I'm not a musician, I just like to listen to music. I just bought KZ ZS10 pro IEMs, should I invest in custom molded silicone eartips for better sound quality? Or normal ones would be ok?
@@MrArcherRanger thank you for your help :)
I've watched video of Freddie Mercury at Live Aid 85 and I cannot believe how he managed to sing well in that stadium environment without ear monitors.
@ Sailing95: Because Freddie was a professional and a legend.
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@@Agnethatheredhairkid I think Freddie also was able to hear the music back because of the way the stage was
The Beatles during their Shea stadium concerts too, they couldn't even hear each other anymore because of the fangirls' ear shattering screams, without in ear monitors and with mediocre soundsystems, that in the end they just played by instinct lol
@@bunnyleaningonasquishedbun5542 I highly doubt that
For much of my career, I was an audio engineer. Great presentation! You covered it all in 12 minutes. Fantastic job!
I actually experienced this. I was playing in a band many years ago, and our music was so loud that I couldn't hear what I was playing. It was like playing 'blind'...just placing fingers on the fret board not really hearing what I was producing. It's an amazing phenomena.
What did you use to hear what you are playing within the band? Specifically in guitar, what should I use?
@@mhellodypenamora8062you need the ear monitors and the reciever. Then you hook it up to your guitar
@@Montano214is there a video on that? What exactly should I buy/what’s good? I’m a singer/guitarist and I use a bose s1 pro
Haa Haa. When I was a kid.. I thought that’s for security purposes. Like someone in the crowd has a bomb.. then the staff/bouncers can easily notify the singer to run ahahahaha.
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great idea tho hahahah
@@mementomori4817 your taste in music :P j/k j/k.
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At age 70+ and lover of all things music since 1957, I am unboxing my stored original 300+ vinyl that I have lugged all around the world. A clean stereo system for my den is a must (turntable/amplifier/bookshelf speakers, etc.). I have hearing loss and tinnitus from aircraft engines and gunfire (long story). Now I wear Resound hearing aids that give me welcome assistance with conversations and the phone app helps somewhat at live concerts. Your video cleared up many questions I've wondered about. Thank you. Miss Beth, you are a great teacher.
The first time my bass player used in-ears, he said it was like playing along to a CD. I had been using in-ears for a few years but we as a band decided to buy a system for the whole band for many of the reasons you mentioned. Individual mixes, no onstage monitors reducing feedback, etc. Sound guys loved us for it because they didn't have to mix our monitor mixes....we did it ourselves! Great vid!
I used to sing in choirs and I always used to wonder how rock singers actually could stay in tune when there was a screaming crowd. Its hard to sing in tune if you can't hear yourself
Huh I always thought that they played the original song so that the singers would remember the lyrics
Actually they can put the lyrics and hear it when they're singing
I also thought the same
@@giulianabarrera2628 then it would be for singers who have bad memory
That’s why singing live is so much harder than everyone realizes - you don’t get to hear the song with your voice in it, you sing with an instrumental version and have to stay in key with not much guidance. You can hear when performers ear pieces don’t work because they sound a little off key. Also, performing in a stadium/arena where it’s echoing constantly makes it hard to hear yourself and stay in key.
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I love these videos where you get all techy. I'm just a huge geek and find it interesting.
We need to hear what they are hearing for us to really understand. .
Lol you can buy in ear monitors for cheap price.
@@jimboy6414 not really, ones that are any good at all are a couple hundred bucks at least
We hear everything Clearly....guitars....drums.... bass......vocals......all adjustments are done to safeguard the musicians
@@jimboy6414 those aren't the same with custom in-ears (overall fitting and sound quality)
There are actually in ear monitor songs on yt u can put to experience it
I think I remember Paul McCartney saying they kept looking at each other to see where they were in the song. Can you imagine noticing you were half a beat off and having to catch up while playing and singing.
I'm a drummer. In ears were life changing!
@phunkyCW- Yes, they do. Especially when playing in a drum enclosure. Plus, if you're using a click track. 👍
How do I get them molded to my ears?
I'm 27 years old, but have been playing gigs in loud settings since I was about 15 years old. I've been noticing a decline in my hearing health for some time now, and I will definitely convince my band to switch to in-ears!
From a hearing health point of view, (and sound quality too) I'd like to weight in. You may often see performers with one IEM in and one out, usually hanging down from their. While this may look cool, it should NOT be done. Removing one IEM drastically reduces the sound quality, removes the isolation and therefore protection from that ear, and most likely will cause you to turn up the remaining IEM to (over) compensate, leading to hearing damage in that ear too. Use both. It's why they come as a pair. They're designed to work as a pair.
NO! It looks a lot cooler to only have one, and who cares about ear health. I do what i want
that’s really useful, thank you :]
@@euphiex It's not useful!!! 😡
@@casperix3741 lol no one was baited. Sad troll
From a musician's and health professional's combined point of view, when you are a singer as well as an instrumentalist and are only wired systematically to hear yourself sing, you must take one out to hear your instrument as you play or to hear to sing harmony with someone, or to hear someone else's instrument or to customize sound.. It all depends on how you are set up.. It's not at all to look cool. Do your research or you sound stupid. And either way has equal effect on ear health, and it doesn't make a difference because it's not any louder or quieter with either one in or out, and loud music will eventually ruin your hearing no matter what.
You don’t know how long I’ve been waiting for a video like this. I was always so curious thank you so much
Excellent! There's way more to the singing art than just singing or playing an instrument. One must be conscious of auditory health... And again Beth roars loudly in defense of clear singing and hearing!
Thank you!!
My late grandfather used to play the saxophone with a band. He had a piece of plastic with a hole cut in it that would be clipped in the front of his saxophone so some of those sound would come back towards him.
"you get this horrible noise" RUclips goes to an ad lol
Really! RUclips knows how to pick its spots! haha
ahah mine did the same thing!
@Jouni And for $10-12/month you can bribe RUclips. 😁
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Great video! My favorite band is Pentatonix, and way back in 2014 or so, they were filmed getting their new, better, earbuds, and each one sounded absolutely thrilled. At the time I didn't get it, but after your explanation, it all makes sense. Thank you!
I’ve never quite gotten used to the different sound quality of me singing when I have an in-ear in. Therefore, if I use an in-ear, I use only one, and use a hi-fi attenuating ear plug in the other, which gives me more access to hearing my voice and the music and crowd while still bringing the volume down to safe levels.
Perhaps one day, I’ll adapt to using in-ears, but for now, I’m only half-way in.
Good idea. My band is just starting to get into IEM. I'll keep this in mind.
You have to hear yourself clearly.
Me, who doesn't like my own voice: yeah, right
I did a video on that as well! ruclips.net/video/kYtOc4Bdmog/видео.html
@@BethRoars Oh, thank you so much! I'll watch it right away!
Yeah, your probably the worst fan of your own voice 😉
Same!
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10:28 hey it's taeyeon
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@@sototheshi hi hi
I've never been a stage musician or a roadie, so this is just fascinating, thank you, Beth!
I’m not a performer or even musician but I’m just a huge fan of high quality audio. Got myself a set of custom IEM’s from Ultimate Ears. Love them so much!!
What a great explanation and a great clear British accent . Thanks from France !
You're very welcome!
Have no idea how I got here, but I've learned something today. Thanks! :-)
Glad to help!
Me Too Bro :)
Me too. But I would love a set to block Norris Johnson noise out!
Me too. The glory of RUclips.
Same here! 😁
If you've spent much time onstage with a rock band, you know that there are actually 3 separate sound systems that matter. One is the sound the audience hears. The band never gets to hear that. In fact, if they did, those speakers would provide horrible feedback and nothing would work.
The second sound system is your own amp. Musicians often stand in front of those (not necessarily), in order to hear how their own sound is developing. This isn't necessarily something that works out. I recall a few times standing in front of my own 1200 watt amp, and not actually being able to hear it because of the other sound onstage. It is notoriously futile to try to hear the drums by standing in front of them, because the whole noise profile is a mush. That may be hard to believe, but fact. The noise can be blinding, and obliterate any attempt to hear by simply listening to those around you.
The third is the monitor system, be it monitor speakers on the ground in front of you, facing away from the audience or earbuds. Now, here's the thing. You don't necessarily want to hear everything in the monitors. What you want to hear are the clues that you need to be able to perform your part of the music. If you are a guitarist, for example, you want some of your feed, definitely the drums and definitely the lead vocalist. If you are the lead guitarist you'd want enough of the rhythm and bass to at least know if they are breaking, but not the full intensity. In other words, this sound isn't anything close to what you hear in the audience, by design. It is the sound you need to make your breaks and stay on rhythm.
The worst sound in the room is gonna be for the musicians. This is also why I cringe whenever someone in the audience later complains about someone being too loud or too weak. No musician onstage can possibly know that.
As a drummer I spent 1200€ for my InEars about 13 years ago. Looking back, it was the best investment into music equipment I ever made. Not only at stage, but also at rehearsals in small rooms it saves my hearing. Never again without it, and I would recomment it to every musician who plays amplified.
Jesus 1200, what did you get?
@@albertweedsteinthethuggeni7797 I dediced to buy the second best model from JH Audio with 4 drivers on each side, and of course fitted for my ears. I still use them on every rehearsal, only changed the cable 2-3 times. The top model was around 1600€ as far as I remember.
@@umm8446What do you mean with "a normal pair"? Those are handmade customized pieces from a mold, that was made from my inner ear channel. It slips deep into the ear, the output tubes just in front of the eardrum. Each side has 2 bass, 1 mid and 1 high frequence driver, so I can hear my bassdrum clearly in the mix. The inear also protects the ear from loud sounds around me, I think it has a 27dB attenuation, thats nearly all of the sound from outside. You can't compare them to a set of inears used with your phone.
8:18 I love how the background music has amplified drums in the left and the guitars in the right to prove the point
07:09 when your favorite band is shown on the screen :') makes my heart warm 🙌🏻❤️
I've started using them the last year. I have one in, one out. I like hearing both the stage mix & the in ear mix. Also like to hear the crowd energy.
I've wondered, for quite a while, exactly what those earpieces did. Thanks for explaining it!
I remember the Bee Gees whenever the singer would sing he would put his finger into his ear, it kinda works on the same principal by allowing your inner ear to hear yourself. Try it now it does work : )
My number one recommendation for in-ear monitoring: give them a chance. If you've played with wedges for years, adopting in-ear monitoring can take several shows (up to 6 or 7) to get used to. Experiment with how they fit in your ears; try different sized inserts (round rubber thing that goes into your ear). Work with your sound engineer to dial in what you want to hear. If you're lucky enough to be using a digital mixer, you can use an app on your phone to dial in what you want without bothering the sound engineer. Power through these challenges and experiment with the mix and take notes. The transition can be tough, but it's worth the effort. You'll hear only what you want to hear and you'll preserve your hearing.
I am allergic to latex on the ear buds. Any suggestions? Thanks
We have a QSC board and the QSC app on all of our phones. Each band member can dial in their own custom mix. It’s amazing!
This answers a question that I've had for years, but never bothered to seek an answer for. Thank you!
Thank you for that information! I'm not a singer or even a musician, but I was curious as to exactly what they heard.
An added benefit - in-ear systems give a band the ability to 'talk to themselves' between songs. If you've seen the Dave Matthews Band in concert they're pioneers in this. Between songs, their engineer sets the program and voila Dave & the Band are all talking to each other privately (with the Sound Engineer & Lighting/Video Director included). Perhaps one of the reason(s) why Dave always turns his back to the audience between songs (so the audience doesn't see him talking and not hearing), a joke gets told, pizza orders confirmed and maybe a set list change ? Or, as an audience watching, suddenly the band starts laughing amongst themselves for no apparent reason to the audience. Brilliant set-up. And this is a great video.
Thank you for this informative video, Beth. I was wondering too why sometimes singers removed their in-ear while they were performing.
To hear the amps or drums on stage(whether for personal preference of the organic sound, or because they aren't happy with the mix in their IEMs and only need one to hear themselves), allow for conversation with band mates or crew, or hear the crowd
As someone who does a lot of FoH, I was so thrilled when the group I do sound for moved to IEMs as I could stop worrying about feedback from the wedges.
The downside is that often the IEMs don't play loud enough for the performers' preferences so sometimes they end up with IEMs AND a wedge.
This is very interesting from the perspective of a hearing aid user. I’m sure most of the advancements of hearing aid technology comes from the music industry. I love my hearing aids, they are Bluetooth and they allow me to enjoy music, talking on the phone and RUclips videos a lot more than without them.
Wow I didn’t know hearing aids are now Bluetooth capable! That’s amazing!
What I have heard is mainly tempo and queues being priority.
Great video, thanks!
Vocalist here , I’m keen for these ....dreaming of doing large stage stuff so best be prepared 🙌🙌
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Same here
Beth I really love this educational series you started, it so informational! Thank you. :)
I'm so glad!
Hi Beth, I enjoyed your video, and you've answered lots of my questions. I'm not even sure how they prevent howl-around! I remember Michael Jackson during "This is It" rehearsals, complaining of the restricted sound from the ear pieces, being used to listening naturally. Thank you for a great video.
I started using them by accident kind of. I forgot i had my regular earbuds in during rehearsal with my band one day, and pretty quickly realized the resonance inside my head worked like it's own internal monitor, so I didn't have to push while singing. You can hear where you're singing from--head, chest, whether you're being nasal, using grit/distortion properly, etc. and fix things on the fly with confidence. That was my catalyst for using IEMs. I definitely recommend having a set that has some feature that allows SOME outside sound though. Think of it like those really good headphones with the ambient noise feature--It lets in enough so that you can hear things you need to for safety reasons, while still attenuating loud sounds and providing that internal monitor just by pure physiology of having something shoved inside your ear.
Oh this was an interesting and informative video. Really helps us to better understand and participate in the experience of the live performances we love.
Beth,great explanations about I.E's,I'm a drummer and have been using these now for quite a while and ,for me,are so much better than having a fold-back speaker right next to me also adding to onstage noise.In the past all of us had our own f/b speakers,now we all use I/E's and the stage is quite clean.Stay safe and well.
I always waited for someone to answer this question for me.
What a wonderful video. Lighting, audio, and great info. Thank you!
I´m loving these video essays. Fantastic job, Beth!
As a beginner in the "at home studio" youtube singer/musician... i found this very interesting. I might not need the full in ear treatment as I'm not blocking out live crowd noise or blasting speakers but I think the idea will help me setup my own "mix" for a better recording performance. Thanks for this oldie but goodie :)
How can anyone dislike this? Everything in this video is well made and pleasant.. from the"Roar, roar.. Rawn!" intro to the lighting, audio quality, easy language, solid info, timing, design, etc. Great job, Beth! I didn't know you 20min ago, but I'm already subscribed! All the best!
Wow, thanks!
Thanks for sharing. Very well explained. First video I've watched about in ears. Been curious ever since I seen Adam Lambert take one out while singing " Believe" in front of Cher.
10:27 KIM TAEYEON 😍 she actually has a compilation of taking her in-ear off 😂
Where’s the video?
@@MrAarhonpaulo ruclips.net/video/84FhGo0IjGA/видео.html here's the video of taengoo removing her in-ear.
@@MrAarhonpaulo and this one is longer ruclips.net/video/iPF0MZhb0-I/видео.html
It's for singers to hear themselves. I sing and the reason why someone has to take them off is so that you can hear the music around you and blend with them well. Sometimes when I have them on and I feel a little bit pitchy, I take them off to hear the music. So when you see singers take them off, that means they could hear themselves being pitchy and have to be back in tune.
Thanks for the tech info. Back in the day, musicians, crew, audience, none of us had this. It was primal and bad for hearing health, as you put it.
Though I've both sung, and played my guitar with an audience present, I've never done so with an audience that made a lot of noise, or even a little noise. When I perform, I listen to the other performers around me, and to myself. Thinking about it now, I can't imagine performing in any venue where I'd prefer an in ear monitor.
Interesting video though. Thanks
Great educational work you`ve done Beth . I`ve learned from it , thank you . I have had fitted hearing aids since the early 90`s .One thing I did notice then was with a perfect fit between the hard plastic & sensitive inner ear can after a while cause a slight swelling in the ear canal . It wasn`t a uniform fit any more , which led to an outside noise SHHHH type feedback . Although newer ones have worked past much of this . They can still have problems becoming dislodged by taking on and off glasses , face masks, motorbike helmets etc . I`ve already lost a right side this way. Noise induced hearing loss caused me to lose most of my ability to understand speech and that includes song lyrics which should give meaning to the work. At 3 to 4 thousand D B I have profound hearing loss .
I still remember the first time I played guitar performing with the band in the hall (at the university), I dont really know what is the function of those on stage monitor, until I start practicing before the live performance with the band. Without those monitor, I can barely hear what I play, just a lot of noise 🤣. (sorry for my english)
I had an idea that they were used for this but I have to admit I watched this video so I could just melt listening to your voice and accent, so well spoken ! 😍
I can't believe how great Michael Jackson is, on the past 4 eras, that he never used in ear monitor.
He had used them but yes a major part of his career he didnt use ear monitor.
I mean that’s the case for most singers during his day.
God, I miss Michael Jackson :(
Probably because he mimed quite alot
@@user-cx2ho9hg2r same!
Good explanation of everything! Love your channel! Interesting history on in-ear development... Anyway, I play in bands and in-ears are definitely great! I especially love them since I play bass and am near the drummer most of the time. If I didn't have them I wouldn't be able to hear the other singers as good or myself. It definitely helps when you have a good sound mixer guy who can get you a good mix in your ears where both your instrument and voice and other voices sound reasonably good. Makes things so much easier and since in-ears act as ear plugs too, hardly any damage to the ears, love it!
Now this is the content I'm subscribed for. Well-explained, Beth. Please do more videos on tech 👍
Good stuff Beth... I've been thinking of getting a pair for my motorcycle riding to enhance our bike-to-bike communication and reduce wind noise.....RAWR!
First time coming across your channel. Very high production, and very informative. You earned a sub!
Awesome, thank you!
Yes, when things got loud in rock music the singer could not hear themselves. At Woodstock in 1969, Grace Slick put a finger in her ear during "White Rabbit" to get some sound from her voice. I doubt they had any stage feedback monitors there.
Very interesting video. More "why" reasons than I imagined. I always learn something from your video posts. Thanks!
10:52 now a day, even if you have only one console, you definitely can have your own mix, meybe even with one of the cheap analog mixer, you can't get every single band member their own mix, but you can definitely have a separate mix for your lead vocal or who is the most important to need a separate mix, because even a affordable analog mixer or console will definitely have at least one aux output.
I use monitors on my motorcycle, it kills wind noise and sounds amazingly clear at low volume.
EPIC HISTORY! The Van Halen and Skid Row moment with Sebastian Bach is trivia I'm proud to tout lol! Thank You beautiful lady. 🍻
This is so cool, thanks for the explanation. I was wondering why live sound is much cleaner than it used to be.
No problem!
Great video!! My son is drummer, and he uses in-ear monitors.
Hearing health is for real. I have hearing loss in the left ear from going to so many concerts as a youngster without any ear protection. I cringe when I think about it. And as an amateur singer I know how important it is to protect your vocal chords.
I don't think that's the reason of your hearing loss
There is always something new to learn, my daily dose is done. Thank you!
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That was cool asf 😭
Right?! I was not expecting that
I own a pair for when I DJ and the it makes life so much easier when mixing. The sound is amazing and I am not interrupted by outside noise and I can perform better. I do use headphones most of the time but when I am DJing for large events I use my in ear monitors. Great post..!!
They should have giving these to Yoko Ono when she decided to start singing. Maybe she would have punted on the idea after hearing herself.
😂😂😂😂😂😂
Don’t forget Linda McCartney either 😝
@@chipsterb4946 At least Linda didn't sound like a cat being raped!
@@ewhartiii I dunno about that. Heard some song by Wings where Linda’s vocals were isolated and just the memory of it is painful. Yoko was in a class by herself tho...
Hee Hee Hee.
There a US company I know for producing these devices for professional musicians called Ultimate Ears almost 20 years plus mow. Back in the early 70s I wondered why the drummer for the band Chicago would wear headphones while performing, and now with you example of yours clarified that mystery. Back when I sound engineered for a small band introduced me to the quality of the Sennheiser brand for headphones in the late 70s. Good historical background of a small device responsible for creating a large impact on the entertainment industry.
You seem like a smart, generous and worthy person.
First time I watch Beth and I subscribe immediately. For once, I get someone who is serious and professional about what she is talking about. Great content and delivery.
This is so informative! Thank you so much, Beth Roars! Now I've learned much more about them.
That was excellent. Loved the history lesson behind IEM.
Great video and totally agree. Been singing and playing with custom in ears the last 4 years and it's been super helpful to me as a performer being able to hear the band and myself well and clearly. Even have a set as a studio engineer so I can hear the details as I'm recording. Kind of hard going back to wedges now when I have to.
I just stumbled into your channel and I have to say your video is very well made and informative - I like your pleasant and well articulated voice, it makes it much easier for a non native english speaker to understand you.
I’ve always wondered about these, thanks!!
Happy to help!
Great video. In the states I’ve always heard “wedges” referred to as “stage monitors” but I love that term wedges. It’s still descriptive and seems like a warmer more inviting term. Saying stage monitors comparatively seems kind of cold and industrial. Thanks for the info.
Some rock stars today suffered from hearing loss due to long term exposure to loud noise: Pete Townsend and Phil Collins are 2 examples.
The singer for AC DC too. I think the band actually had to fire him for his own good because he was risking going deaf.
@@PlumbPitiful That’s right! I heard about that.
@@PlumbPitiful Brian Johnson
I remember seeing an interview with McCartney talking about Ringo's perfect timing, how they couldn't hear themselves at all, and that they could only feel the drums behind them to know where they should be.
8:18 I hear what you did there!
Yes! Someone got it!
@@BethRoars hi, I wanna know can you only hear yourself, or do u hear other people that's in your group too? Like kpop groups, they they hear, themselves, the member, and the mr?
panning 👌
Loved this!
I have often speculated they might be hearing the lyrics in their ear so as not to forget any words.. I can sing along with recorded music but often cannot remember all the words without that help. This is very informative. Thank you.
They can be used for various reasons. When you hear a band that is really tight, they’re probably usually using a click track similar to a metronome. They could add vocals previously recorded to help with mental cues just as you do when singing along with a song. The mix is personal.
Beth can you do more live lessons on your youtube channel? I enjoyed what you did during global lockdown, obviously it requires time to do lessons but I would like to continue with singing with your help
As a music listener you can benefit from these IEMs because the good sound isolation allows you to keep the audio level low for mobile listening.
With earbuds you have to crank the volume up to drown out external sounds. Look at the affordable and durable Shure models, IEMs don't need to cost much more than a hundred or so for a good sounding set.
As a drummer I am pretty happy with the sealing and sound of my Shure SE215, pretty unexpensive and good quality overall.
That is not a good iem at all lol
@@ozunkeskin6919 for the price, it is, obviously it's not the best, but they're not bad at all.
@@jonhattanrai have you ever tried high-end iems? If you didnt you cant understand what im saying
@@ozunkeskin6919 Why should I? These get the job done, I don't need more, they're just to isolate the sound from the outside, and to keep track of what I need to do next.
I'd rather put my money elsewere.
@@jonhattanrai thats your choice then
As a singer it is imperative to get voice feedback. Keeps you on key.
I love Amy Adams’ Scottish accent. 😂
Thanks for the video!, this is actually such an important aspect of live music that not everyone knows, even some amateur musicians (like me) don´t understand this basics.
How did you get those little glowing circles in your eyes? I want to put that in my videos but I can't figure out how to do it
It's called a "Ring Light"
Don’t you watch the Kardashians? They invented the ring lights.(tic)
Drugs
Idk why but your question is so cute🤧
@@greenidguy9292 🤣😂
I’m looking forward to getting some of these. I sing awful when I can’t hear myself and it’s quite discouraging, as I sing well in the studio, so hopefully this will help me as I was about to not sing live anymore.