With thanks to Rory Jennings (ruclips.net/channel/UCjz0jCqq6rclL06bSLuvQ6A), James Redmond (ruclips.net/channel/UCubrnA__mDdroEhzWEdYWJA) and Stevo The Mad Man (ruclips.net/user/StevoTheMadMan)
Henderson is just incredibly overrated. lol. He's a solid, hardworking player. for sure. But he's not exactly a game changer or someone that will dominate and control the midfield regularly is he? Hendo Cpt Marvel? please. If this was years ago and they said Gerrard is Cpt Marvel, ok sure. I think that's fair.
@@bri1085 well.. Not to me. Some of the midfielders that I believe have always been considered class.. Scholes. Gerrard. Lampard. Pirlo. Xavi. Iniesta. Modric. Just to name a few. Let's say you have no other context in terms of what qualities the team needs. Just choose which CM you'd take. Would you choose Henderson over any of the players I mentioned above?
Must say, that since recording this, Kante’s form has dipped to such a level that James’ Fabinho point could actually be correct. Always a joy to work with James and Stevo. Thanks for having me on.
Allison has 19* clean sheets this season, not 20. Even if he keeps a clean sheet in the last 5 games this season, he would only be equalling Petr Cech's record, he won't break it. I'm a Liverpool fan btw.
I understand but Thiago just picked his form lately. He was poor last season and the beginning of this season was not so smooth for him neither. Kova has been On and Off specially due to his reoccurring injuries. And without a ball carrier, that midfield they made will just be so stagnant.
Let the stats talk kovacic has 5 assists and 2 goals thiago has 2assists and 1 goal kovacic is good at ball carrying and thiago is good at passing buh kovacic has added goals and assists only injuries have restrained him
Matip is unbelievable what he’s done for Liverpool is crazy. Still don’t think he gets enough credit from people. Not forgetting the gezza was a free transfer aswell.
He really isnt that good. Hes done alright for a season, who was speaking about him last season or the one before or the one before that? NOBODY. Very recent overatted player.
It’s been stupid for a long time. The last 10 games of last season were unbelievable and all of this season. Only thing that prevents him being in higher regards like team of the season is because his minutes need to be managed
I think Mendy is a top keeper. However, I’ll go as far to say that to put him ahead of Allison is ‘criminal’. I don’t think football fans appreciate that Liverpool’s system would crumble without their goalkeeper. He’s an incredible sweeper, brilliant distribution but most importantly, he is the best one on one keeper in the world, which is so important because Liverpool’s high line results in at least 1 one on one situation being conceded every match, yet he almost always makes the save but we naturally focus on Liverpool’s goals, rather than the save(s) made
it’s an overreaction to winning champions league during a Mickey Mouse run mendy has shown he’s average at best he literally can’t put a string of good games
@@purpleperc1012 did you really just call that a mickey mouse run when they won against the spanish champions (atletico madrid) that year in the Ro 16 and then Real madrid in the semis.. then City in the final, conceded 4 goals throughout the tournament which is the world record.. lol
Best one on one keeper in the world huh? Tell you what I would like some of the crack you re smoking bruh...Is Courtouis playing some other sport then? Golf perhaps?
Finally someone said it! James has hit the nail on the head regarding all this praise for City winning the league without a striker. Firmino isn't an out and out striker. Yes what City have done is impressive, but they weren't even the first team to do it! Also Fabinho is the best DM in the league. Kante is better as a CM not DM. I'd have Fabinho in DM with Thiago and Kante in front.
Rodri is the best dm in the league. I feel like there’s this weird narrative about City that none of their players are as good as Liverpool’s yet somehow they’re top of the league
In fairness though, James is a notorious troller and loudmouth. Young kid as well that . I think the entire midfield was off . There i no way you can leave Thiago out. It has to be Kovacic and Thiago and then the Fab/Kante debate is literally apples orange
The things I would change are DM Fabinho CM Kante CM Thiago. I would also play alisson over Mendy, Alisson has been incredible this season and if we win either champs or prem, He would be top 5 ballon d'Or.
Kovacic gets in ahead of anyone. Atm, I only see 2 chelsea players that can get in that combined 11, that's James and Kovacic. Everyone else should be Liverpool
The Kante debate is very interesting based on his current form. Just shows how easily people dismiss liverpool players based on our injury laden last season
Kante will always be phenomenal. But the technique and belief and growth Liverpool have is too unique, sometimes, for people to class or understand. Not Even Fifa (game) gets it right.
Chelsea players are being dismissed aswell as a result of an injury laden season this time around if this was done after we won the champions league Robertson and Trent don't make the team
@@craigcarolissen3506 Stop pushing the idea that Chelsea have had particularly bad injury record this season, several teams have had much worse injuries this season alone to compare it Liverpool last year is a farce.
I’m trying to work out how long ago this was recorded. Thiago should be one of the first names on this team and Fabinho’s form gets him in over Kante. Diaz could (and probably should) be in the conversation with Mane at CF. Alisson over Mendy and day of the week as well
He's really passive aggressive, he comes off nice when he's arguing, but he has mad agendas against teams, and uses Chelsea winning the cl and the Mickey Mouse club World Cup as justification for players being better.
People who don't watch Liverpool don't understand that Liverpool don't just have an amazing 'Front 3' we have an amazing 'Defensive 3' which is Allisson, VVD & Fabinho as our Defensive Spine, when those 3 are together Liverpool is incredibly tough to beat. They're as important to us winning anything as our 'Front 3' are.
I will forever have so much respect for both Rory and James. Watching them both debate is the best thing, they know what they're talking about and their points are fair and actually make sense.
As a United fan the only thing that I would change is put Fabinho as the dm and Kante as a cm where he actually started to play more in the last 2 seasons as he became such a good ball progresser under Tuchel.
@Jonny Reed u say that like u would change the whole team🤣🤣🤣 i mean ofc personally i would put jota and alisson in the team but i can also agree with firmino and mendy so don t see where that banter comes from
Bro why are they overlooking Prime Hazard and Prime Torrres? If it werent for Ronaldo having his best year in a United shirt, Torres would have won the Ballon D'or and Hazard made defenders shit their pants, on their day, they are 2 of the most fearsome attackers in Premier League HISTORY
Thiago has been an absolute shadow of his former Bayern self since moving to Liverpool. He’s been good the last month. I doubt you watch Kovacic with a comment like that but what he does for the Chelsea 11 is far superior in terms of what Thiago offers. Dribbling past Mctominay and Maguire doesn’t make a player good.
Thiago would never get in ahead of Kovacic just bc he sprinkles no look passes lol. Sure, he's been playing great for a month now but don't forget he's usually average over the season. Kovacic is just so underrated.
@@sam8893 This is complete and utter bollocks. He's been playing at a similar level since teh last 10 games of last season you don't watch Liverpool mate
@@sebastiankemp.j1297 you could literally use your eyes to see that the balls/passes that Reece produces and makes are no where close to as pinpoint, accurate or really just as good as Trent. Doesn’t matter if he doesn’t have Salah to assist to, just use your eyes. Trent is clear.
@@macky453 Reece has 5 goals and 6 assists in 20 prem games (with many games not 90 min). Trent has 12 assists and 2 goals in in 29, while he also plays for the most goal producing and attacking team in the prem. Im not saying Reece is better, but Trent is not clear
What? James can play as a genuinely world class CB. Pocketed Vini Jr in the second leg v Madrid so well Benz asked to switch shirts. also their goals and assists are similar( even with James being injured for 3 months
The stereotypes of this Liverpool squad based off of one year when Phillips Williams and kabak were st the back is insane, we're a point behind city and people can't drop these stereotypes
Liverpool fan, midfield should have been Kante, Kovatic, Thiago. CB'S should have Rudiger an VVD Keeper was so close, Allison is the best in the world 1 on 1, but Mendy is the reigning European, African, an World champ ( amazing stat ) so that speaks volumes. Nice to see the Manager was not debated, we all know the answer was Klopp YNWA
Love Matip, he glides forward like a yaya toure, effortlessly. Will go as far as saying he's one of the best dribbling CB's in the world and the best in the league.
Best dribbling CB's in the world would probably be Josko Gvardiol from Leipzig or Jules Kounde from Sevilla, Even Milan Skriniar from inter is better than him at it.
Kante has won everything in World Football. Maybe not the Euros? He's won the premier league with 2 different clubs and a champions league. Fabinho is class but Kante is beyond him.
Mendy over Alisson 😂😂😂 Alisson is in contention for player of the year shouts he has been that good, if it wasnt for Salahs mental G/A numbers Alisson has comfortably been Liverpools best player this season and saved us multiple points/goals
@@DS-dw3pz nope he isnt, cos one of them is 3rd in the league and the other is taking his team to challenging for 4 trophies, there is levels to this game 😭
@@DS-dw3pz not a one man team, but when a striker is one on one with a keeper and the keeper stops him that is a one man job, clearly a chelsea fan so no point discussing this, ask everyone else in the league bar liverpool and chelsea fans who they would rather have and I bet you 95% take Alisson 🤷🏼♂️ if youre happy with mendy good for you but I wouldnt swap alisson with any other keeper in the world
@@Robc3107 I think you are the one whose a fking Liverpool fan because Mendy can do the same or even better than what Alisson does unless you are in denial...I dk how delusional are you that you forget the insane saves that Mendy made like the one against Mane... Goalkeeper of the year although Alisson has better defence...The only thing Alisson is better is his ball control on his feet that's all....Man you are pure comedy cz you are the one being in denial Liverpool fan and you are telling I am a Chelsea fan just because I think Mendy is better lmaoo
Mine would be Allison, Robo, VVD, Silva (it’s rl close tho), Trent (also close), Fabinho, Jorginho, Thiago (this midfield could pass through any press), manè, Diaz, Salah. I think the only reason they didn’t rl mention Diaz in the video is when this was recorded which was apparently months ago
How does Mendy nick it against Ali? Allison is technically better than Mendy bruh. Mendy might be current champion, but Ali has been there and done that too. He’s also the only GK to ever win the Copa America, CL and PL Golden glove in 1 season. Also, he won the Yashin award. Mendy is a good GK, but no way does he get ahead of Brazil’s number 1, Ali. I love Hendo but Kovacic is a beast man, him and Thiago in the mid would be nutty. This judge don’t know what he’s talking about. TBH mine would be: Ali, Trent, Silva, VVD, Robbo, Fab, Kovacic, Thiago, Salah, Bobby, Mane.
Alison. Trent. VVD. Silva. Robertson. Fabinho. Kante. Tiago. Salah. Mane. Diaz... nothing to debate... Bench would be Mendy. Matip. James. Henderson. Mount. Havertz. Firmino. Jota. (You literally need a bench to have the audacity to add 4 Chelsea players to this team.. stop trolling)
Midfield should be Kante - Fab - Thiago, as Kanté never plays in that deep role regardless: he’s a box to box player. Goalkeeper is no doubt Alisson. Mendy had an alright spell but Alisson is emerging as an alltimer.
@@Sneakz97 Chelsea fan here. Thiago Silva over Rudiger for sure. Rudiger massively over rated by oposition fans whilst Thiago Silva massively under rated. Rudiger is shit in a back four - there's a reason he barely played under Lampard. He's a system player at best. Watch him flop at Real Madrid just like Courtois and Hazard did in their first seasons struggling to adapt (yes Courtois is world class now but he struggled at the start)
@@JohnHolywell they don't watch us play football bro.. waste of time even explaining to them.. they warch MOTD highlights... thiago silva has been our best centreback again.
How is Mendy over Allison? Literally Allison saved Liverpool countless times , and don't get me wrong Mendy is a good goalkeeper, but this season he messed up quite a few matches that cost Chelsea important points
@@kevalshah4097 Reece james has the same G/A as trent this season and he has barely even played... such an argument for trents 'great attacking qualities'
@@18xDJHx And yet trent has more games played in his career, more goals, assists, clean sheets, defensive stats (tackles, clearance etc) and more trophies. Keep sucking up to a injury prone crap RWB.
As a Chelsea fan, I have a lot of respect for Liverpool. Maybe even a bit more than I should. They always give us a good match when we face each other. We’ll see you May 14😉💙
Alisson over Mendy every day of the week. Easiest decision of my life. Mendy doesn't even get in top 5 goalkeepers in the world. Have you seen him with his feet?! 1) Alisson 2) Ederson 3) Donnarumma 4) Neuer 5) Courtois
@@ashleylang5231 He doesn’t though. Any unbiased Chelsea fan would say this. Firmino inform is far better as a false 9. Liverpool have won it all with him as a false 9. Jota has scored 20+ goals and is lethal in front of goal.
@@Yaowza1227 even if you don’t think havertz is better, there’s no denying the man has crazy potential for such a young player, he will eventually be world class and surpass them both I promise you
Allison gets in over Mendy, he’s saved us countless times and has the best 1 vs 1 statistics in the league. Kovacic has had some world class moments this year but Thiago atm is the best skillful Cm in the world. I’d actually put Thiago in over Hendo though, our captain has done so much for us in our success but if we’re talking this season, he doesn’t make it unfortunately.
@@aisosaihama it’s insane. All 3 are arguably the best at their position in the world. I don’t think anyone from the Chelsea squad, can be considered the best in the world in their position.
@@ronrammer4666 Kimmich and Casemiro have ran rings around Fabinho whenever they’ve played against him, come on. Thiago isn’t half the player Modric is either.
Thiago's been quality and can do things Kovacic can't. I rate both highly, but it has to be said, the putting down of Thiago here was nuts! He's been very good. Maybe he doesn't slot in perfectly ala Bayern at Liverpool, but he's become incredible central to the way we play. Also rating Mendy over Alisson as though that's a straight forward decision, nuts!
As a Liverpool fan I honestly wouldn’t take a single chelsea player, maybe kovatic for the bench but as far as the first team goes No one’s getting first team football, Liverpool are better than Chelsea in every department
Let's be honest - Kante is the only player that gets in the Liverpool team - and it's at the expense of hendo (as much as i love hendo). It's criminal that Mendy gets in ahead of Alison. Mendy is a good keeper - but Alison has everything Mendy has and more. Better distribution, best in the world 1v1 and even has a cracking header on him.
With thanks to Rory Jennings (ruclips.net/channel/UCjz0jCqq6rclL06bSLuvQ6A), James Redmond (ruclips.net/channel/UCubrnA__mDdroEhzWEdYWJA) and Stevo The Mad Man (ruclips.net/user/StevoTheMadMan)
Rory is so deluded! Trent is miles better
I say Alison Becker has had a better but the season and Mandy
you guys gotta do An AC Milan vs Inter fan, or Barca fan vs Madrid fan for the next agree to disagree
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Some questionable decisions here but having Henderson in this midfield over Thiago is ridiculous. Thiago and Kovacic together would be absolutely vile
Definitely think this video was recorded atleast 2 months ago given a few references. Thiago since early 2022 has been out of this world.
Henderson is just incredibly overrated. lol. He's a solid, hardworking player. for sure. But he's not exactly a game changer or someone that will dominate and control the midfield regularly is he? Hendo Cpt Marvel? please. If this was years ago and they said Gerrard is Cpt Marvel, ok sure. I think that's fair.
Henderson should not have been picked on this season's form.
@@corny17 Henderson is class, he just hasn't been at hs best this season.
@@bri1085 well.. Not to me. Some of the midfielders that I believe have always been considered class..
Scholes. Gerrard. Lampard. Pirlo. Xavi. Iniesta. Modric. Just to name a few.
Let's say you have no other context in terms of what qualities the team needs. Just choose which CM you'd take. Would you choose Henderson over any of the players I mentioned above?
Must say, that since recording this, Kante’s form has dipped to such a level that James’ Fabinho point could actually be correct.
Always a joy to work with James and Stevo. Thanks for having me on.
Loved having you on as ever, Rory!
Valiant effort with reece james 👏 🤣
Was this recorded in 2020 cuz he is been in this form for 2 seasons now .
Mend over Alison? Really Rory?🤣
Rory such a legend , come on Chelsea 🥇🥇🥇. well done 👍 to you blue brother
Allison has 20 cleansheets this season by the way. Has saved Liverpool 7 goals from 1v1s
* 7.8 = 8 goals to be exact this season. He might break Peter Cech's record of 24
Allison has 19* clean sheets this season, not 20. Even if he keeps a clean sheet in the last 5 games this season, he would only be equalling Petr Cech's record, he won't break it. I'm a Liverpool fan btw.
@@VishwadeepShinde He won't.
@@navinmenon6931 nobody cares if you are a Liverpool fan or not. Just state your point and move on
@@navinmenon6931 You're right. Kelleher has 1. Still might be equalling, it isn't impossible. We might slip up against Tottenham I think
How could you sleep on Thiago? Kovacić infront of Thiago is like saying Werner should play infront of Salah because Salah had a goal drought.
I understand but Thiago just picked his form lately. He was poor last season and the beginning of this season was not so smooth for him neither. Kova has been On and Off specially due to his reoccurring injuries. And without a ball carrier, that midfield they made will just be so stagnant.
Let the stats talk kovacic has 5 assists and 2 goals thiago has 2assists and 1 goal kovacic is good at ball carrying and thiago is good at passing buh kovacic has added goals and assists only injuries have restrained him
Mate, Kovacic is by some margin, the best central midfielder in the premier league.
@@mickeydodkins3731 wut😂😂😂
Thiago can never be ahead of Kovacic.. Even in a million years
Alisson being snubbed is genuinely outrageous.
Best keeper in the world and let's not forget his goal
@@ashwilliams4959 id argue de gea atm but cause of his distribution Allison edges him im overall
@@cormac7884 de Gea 😂😂😂 honestly mate, sort it out
@@user-pu4qs3uo5d you not watched this season then? DDG saved United from easily being lower half.
@@user-pu4qs3uo5d alisson has had so many howlers remember when his legs were cold 😭😭
Matip is unbelievable what he’s done for Liverpool is crazy. Still don’t think he gets enough credit from people. Not forgetting the gezza was a free transfer aswell.
Only put Thiago Silva or Rüdiger as a sympathy pick not to seem too biased
Matips done it for one season out of his whole career cmon bro
@@mattjones5569 he’s only done it for “one season” cause he’s been injured every season since he’s joined but he’s always been class when he’s played
He really isnt that good. Hes done alright for a season, who was speaking about him last season or the one before or the one before that? NOBODY. Very recent overatted player.
@@mattjones5569 one season? he was our best CB when we won the Euroepan Cup a couple of seasons ago. Seriously the disrespect.
That thiago take sounds so unbelievably stupid right now😂
He his overrated still though
@@Emman1906 No he’s not😂
It’s been stupid for a long time. The last 10 games of last season were unbelievable and all of this season. Only thing that prevents him being in higher regards like team of the season is because his minutes need to be managed
@@Emman1906 how so?
@@Emman1906 watch some football then come back
I think Mendy is a top keeper. However, I’ll go as far to say that to put him ahead of Allison is ‘criminal’. I don’t think football fans appreciate that Liverpool’s system would crumble without their goalkeeper. He’s an incredible sweeper, brilliant distribution but most importantly, he is the best one on one keeper in the world, which is so important because Liverpool’s high line results in at least 1 one on one situation being conceded every match, yet he almost always makes the save but we naturally focus on Liverpool’s goals, rather than the save(s) made
it’s an overreaction to winning champions league during a Mickey Mouse run mendy has shown he’s average at best he literally can’t put a string of good games
@@purpleperc1012 did you really just call that a mickey mouse run when they won against the spanish champions (atletico madrid) that year in the Ro 16 and then Real madrid in the semis.. then City in the final, conceded 4 goals throughout the tournament which is the world record.. lol
Best one on one keeper in the world huh? Tell you what I would like some of the crack you re smoking bruh...Is Courtouis playing some other sport then? Golf perhaps?
I 100% agree mate, i love mendy, but alisson hes probably top 1 or 2 in the world right now
@@TheBallonDOrWinner-qd2gq when is the last time atl. Madrid won a trophy 😂
Finally someone said it! James has hit the nail on the head regarding all this praise for City winning the league without a striker. Firmino isn't an out and out striker. Yes what City have done is impressive, but they weren't even the first team to do it!
Also Fabinho is the best DM in the league. Kante is better as a CM not DM. I'd have Fabinho in DM with Thiago and Kante in front.
@Liverpool FC even you don’t believe that c’mon how can a drop of form make you forget the player he actually is
Rodri is the best dm in the league. I feel like there’s this weird narrative about City that none of their players are as good as Liverpool’s yet somehow they’re top of the league
@Liverpool FC No chance mate, you're joking surely?
@@AwaisKhan-zt6hm Nice joke. What next, Walker better than Trent?
@@m140i_james Trent aint fit to wipe Walker's shoes.
As a Chelsea fan I have to say love Rory being on these videos he’s very level headed.
as a chelsea fan too bad he has shit opinions
yeah fairly rational for a football content creator tbf, his biggest stinker was mendy over allison imo
@@ARJJ02 yeah as much as i rate mendy he can be very sus
In fairness though, James is a notorious troller and loudmouth. Young kid as well that . I think the entire midfield was off . There i no way you can leave Thiago out. It has to be Kovacic and Thiago and then the Fab/Kante debate is literally apples orange
@@ARJJ02 no it wasnt because at the time Mendy was doing really well. Right now it has to be Allison
I swear Alisson is getting overlooked so much. He is definitely the best keeper in the world no doubt
nah courtouis or donnaruma have been better this season and i am a liverpool fan
@@baybay4906 didn't courtois concede 4 goals last night?
@@baybay4906 PSG aren't in the UCL because of Donnaruma lol
@@baybay4906 donnaruma is overrated
Hes not the best stop fooling yourself! And take of those liverpoolglasses pls. Not good for your brain
That was a beautiful symphony of respect in football.
A Chelsea fan’s unbiased XI:
Alisson
TAA T.Silva VVD Robertson
Fabinho
Thiago. Kovacic
Salah Mane Diaz
Jota disrespect is crazy
@@Hakwbebsu26 I mean that front three could be any possible liverpool trio the point is they are all from liverpool
This is probably what I’d go for too, a few months ago Kante would 100% been in a few months ago though.
Reece james>>>
Huh no Mendy, James and Kante
I’m a Liverpool fan and I can’t believe mason mount wasn’t mentioned for that midfield 😂
Because he plays in Chelsea front three most of the time
Im too a liverpool fan carl, thank fuck he wasn't mentioned
The things I would change are DM Fabinho CM Kante CM Thiago. I would also play alisson over Mendy, Alisson has been incredible this season and if we win either champs or prem, He would be top 5 ballon d'Or.
Kovacic gets in ahead of anyone. Atm, I only see 2 chelsea players that can get in that combined 11, that's James and Kovacic. Everyone else should be Liverpool
@@limofootball Reece James? Over Trent? This season?
@@henxiety easily, James can actually defend.
It depends tho, Reece would not make liverpools XI and Trent wouldn't make Chelsea's
@@aaro_koivisto25 please, Trent playing wingback for Chelsea's back 5 would guarantee Chelsea 10 goals from assists
@@aaro_koivisto25 Also lazy lazy lazy reasoning once again with the presumption that Trent can't defend
On current form - it's hard to justify Kante over Fabinio. Mendy over Allison is frankly preposterous.
@@Trudon which is basically what he just said mate
@@ryandavies3597 he’s had a shocker lol.
Preposterous is the word I was waiting to see
@@ollie5271 Allison this season has been the best Gk and medndy isnt even in the top 7 best gk of the season
@@ollie5271 How much weed have you had and who's your dealer cause that is some good stuff
The Kante debate is very interesting based on his current form. Just shows how easily people dismiss liverpool players based on our injury laden last season
And just the fact Kante is a borderline part timer now should be given more attention
Kante will always be phenomenal. But the technique and belief and growth Liverpool have is too unique, sometimes, for people to class or understand. Not Even Fifa (game) gets it right.
Chelsea players are being dismissed aswell as a result of an injury laden season this time around if this was done after we won the champions league Robertson and Trent don't make the team
Similarly, Chelsea have had an even worse injury situation this season.
@@craigcarolissen3506 Stop pushing the idea that Chelsea have had particularly bad injury record this season, several teams have had much worse injuries this season alone to compare it Liverpool last year is a farce.
I’m trying to work out how long ago this was recorded. Thiago should be one of the first names on this team and Fabinho’s form gets him in over Kante. Diaz could (and probably should) be in the conversation with Mane at CF.
Alisson over Mendy and day of the week as well
There's no way Mendy's in the goal over Alisson.
What a coincidence about thiago tho... Mans playing with magic
idk man, Thiago still hasnt shown anything special
@@lightcase377 the fact that u said that after liv-vill game, are u fine mate?
@@lightcase377 thiago's pass accuracy has been in the high 90s recently! what are you smoking? 😂
@@H3XIC against Man utd and Everton, not really hard they make Pukki look like Messi
@@ibrahimbukhari7422 yeah Im alright, im sorry but I saw Man utd with mcfred in groupstage beat Villarreal twice
I will always have SO much respect for Rory, he's always reasonable, never one of those annoying guests, truly an amazing debater.
He's really passive aggressive, he comes off nice when he's arguing, but he has mad agendas against teams, and uses Chelsea winning the cl and the Mickey Mouse club World Cup as justification for players being better.
He's a good orator that's what he is good at presenting his point, people just happen to mistake that for being unbiased
James over Trent? Kante over Fabinho this season??
@@nicodiangelo7051 those aren't completely outrageous takes, just because you disagree, and I do too, doesn't make it completely unfathomable.
This new show will carry ladbible single handedly!!!
yeh never seen a combined 11 done before
@@stephenpigot7057 no he means Rory and James i think
Fabinho still seems to be underrated. He's absolutely imperious and facilitates the team to play an extremely high line
Completely agree. Fab is a true cdm in every sense of the position.
@@nathanj109 yes
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agree but he's in a bad run of form because he plays so many minutes. slowest member of the XI but still a top three 6 in the world.
Yep Kante not been consistent for a while
People who don't watch Liverpool don't understand that Liverpool don't just have an amazing 'Front 3' we have an amazing 'Defensive 3' which is Allisson, VVD & Fabinho as our Defensive Spine, when those 3 are together Liverpool is incredibly tough to beat. They're as important to us winning anything as our 'Front 3' are.
I will forever have so much respect for both Rory and James. Watching them both debate is the best thing, they know what they're talking about and their points are fair and actually make sense.
Rory fraud
James fraud
As a United fan the only thing that I would change is put Fabinho as the dm and Kante as a cm where he actually started to play more in the last 2 seasons as he became such a good ball progresser under Tuchel.
Mendy over Alisson really...
that's exactly what i was thinking.
kante is shit mate
@@moemohamed7518 fscts bro
@Jonny Reed u say that like u would change the whole team🤣🤣🤣 i mean ofc personally i would put jota and alisson in the team but i can also agree with firmino and mendy so don t see where that banter comes from
Allison: Trent, Silva, VVD, Robertson: Fabinho, Kovacic, Thiago: Luis Diaz, Mane, Salah
Spot on.
Kanté over Fabinho
James over Trent, Kante over Kovacic, Jota over Mane
@@hbplayzzz11203 no chance Fabinho best CDM in the world.
@@ironheade22 abhorrent amendments, Patrick.
Allison is so clear... He was gonna say Allison until he winded him up about trajectory 🤣
Indeed. Looking at it now, even as a Chelsea supporter I have to day Apart from that UCL final, Mendy's not been up to par at all.
Bro why are they overlooking Prime Hazard and Prime Torrres? If it werent for Ronaldo having his best year in a United shirt, Torres would have won the Ballon D'or and Hazard made defenders shit their pants, on their day, they are 2 of the most fearsome attackers in Premier League HISTORY
The fact that Hendo gets in ahead of Thiago, Mason Mount, Havertz, Keita just makes me laughs so much.
Thiago should get in that midfield over Hendo and Kovacic. How tf that happened I'll never know.
Agree but this was recorded like a month or two ago i think
Thiago has been an absolute shadow of his former Bayern self since moving to Liverpool. He’s been good the last month. I doubt you watch Kovacic with a comment like that but what he does for the Chelsea 11 is far superior in terms of what Thiago offers. Dribbling past Mctominay and Maguire doesn’t make a player good.
Thiago would never get in ahead of Kovacic just bc he sprinkles no look passes lol. Sure, he's been playing great for a month now but don't forget he's usually average over the season. Kovacic is just so underrated.
@@sam8893 This is complete and utter bollocks. He's been playing at a similar level since teh last 10 games of last season you don't watch Liverpool mate
Kovacic is extremely underrated. His dribbling is unbelievable.
SADIO MANEEEEE IS THE BEST PLAYER IN THE WORLLLLD! Whenever I see this Liverpool fan that’s all I hear 😂
but he's being sheeerious
Yeaaaahh course
The season they won the league, he definitely deserved to be in the convo. Was their best player by far that season.
He doesn’t do if buts and maybe he do absolutes 😉
yes and its simply untrue
This must’ve been filmed months ago, if this was recent it would be a full Liverpool xi 😂
Yes with James and Kovacic
Yes with Reece James kovacic Werner and mount
@@stuartyao4440 haha I have never heard a bigger joke Chelsea aren’t winning a single trophy this season shut up
Reece James would never get in ahead of Trent
@@jonathan6730 already won the super cup and cwc
are those not considered trophies...or only when pool win them
I love how west ham is the moderator for this
Lads absolutely brilliant! Get these two every week!!
For every goal or assist James has/will have Trent will have 4 ...he also matches and beats him in every single defensive stat
Beats him in goals. And has played less matches. You have to do it by percentage
Its also easier to assist Mohammad Salah than fkn Lakaka
@@sebastiankemp.j1297 you could literally use your eyes to see that the balls/passes that Reece produces and makes are no where close to as pinpoint, accurate or really just as good as Trent. Doesn’t matter if he doesn’t have Salah to assist to, just use your eyes. Trent is clear.
@@macky453 Reece has 5 goals and 6 assists in 20 prem games (with many games not 90 min). Trent has 12 assists and 2 goals in in 29, while he also plays for the most goal producing and attacking team in the prem. Im not saying Reece is better, but Trent is not clear
What? James can play as a genuinely world class CB. Pocketed Vini Jr in the second leg v Madrid so well Benz asked to switch shirts. also their goals and assists are similar( even with James being injured for 3 months
The stereotypes of this Liverpool squad based off of one year when Phillips Williams and kabak were st the back is insane, we're a point behind city and people can't drop these stereotypes
One point behind them over the past four seasons too.
@@splinter360 literally ran away with the league 2 years ago? What lol?
@@darthsidious1959 All points added up
@@darthsidious1959 if you combined Liverpools point tallies and city's point rallies over the last 4 seasons then Liverpool only have 1 less point
Too true, people were predicting Liverpool nowhere near where they are at the start of the season
Imagine actually thinking mendy and kovacic would get anywhere near liverpools team
Kova would. Massively underrated. Our POTY. Last season I would have argued Mendy had a case. His levels deffo dropped this season.
Kovacic might have a shout
Liverpool fan, midfield should have been Kante, Kovatic, Thiago.
CB'S should have Rudiger an VVD
Keeper was so close, Allison is the best in the world 1 on 1, but Mendy is the reigning European, African, an World champ ( amazing stat ) so that speaks volumes.
Nice to see the Manager was not debated, we all know the answer was Klopp
YNWA
kova would
@@getinvolvedliverpool you forgot to type yNwA at the end bud 🙃
Surely this was recorded a little bit ago because Thiago, luis Diaz, Allison, mount, and havertz have all been class
The fact this chelsea fan against a liverppol one , decides to wear red, is all kinds of confusing to me.
Bruh that Midfield... I cant. Henderson over Thiago?! Also Kante is more of a box to box. So I would say Fabinho, Kante, Thiago
Just said "bruh" - credibility blown!
@@Pwwh0711 Defo 40
Kovacic over Kante rn
The absolute disrespect on Thiago there
Thiago really showed this guy up, put in world class performances since. Kovacic struggles to get co sister game time
Maybe cos kovacic is injured?
@@vinsmokesanji6280 fair point, but thiago is still above kovacic and hendo combined
Kovacic is so underrated it's crazy. I reckon it's only James and Kovacic that get in atm.
@@limofootball I think one of silva and rudiger should take the second CB spot. And RB is too tight to call tbf I think they are as good as each other
@@24Qu4v3rs kovacic this season is the best midfielder in both XIs
Passing accuracy of Thiago last 3 matches:
Man city - 96%
Everton - 98%
Villarreal - 96%
Lads wake up
To put Trent over James 4 months ago was a poor decision. Saying it NOW would be absolutely criminal and an embarrassing statement
Love Matip, he glides forward like a yaya toure, effortlessly. Will go as far as saying he's one of the best dribbling CB's in the world and the best in the league.
Right, he won a player of the month in the prem this season too! Don’t know how they don’t put him in the tram
Best dribbling CB's in the world would probably be Josko Gvardiol from Leipzig or Jules Kounde from Sevilla, Even Milan Skriniar from inter is better than him at it.
Lol the fact people think Kante is a lone dm is insane 😂
It's just because it's his best position based on his attributes so I understand why he's been put there
Alisson, TAA, van Dijk, Silva, Robertson, Kanté, Thiago, Fabinho, Salah, Jota (just over Havertz), Mané
Perfect lineup
The only right XI
I like this episode, its hilarious how they manipulate Steevo 😂
This aged well about Thiago, Thiago the past 2 months has been the Thiago we all expected
It’s this and it’s not even hard
Alison
Trent Silva VVD Robertson
Fabinho
Kovacic Thiago
Salah Mane Diaz
Same
Correct
Kante has won everything in World Football. Maybe not the Euros? He's won the premier league with 2 different clubs and a champions league.
Fabinho is class but Kante is beyond him.
@@adainjarrio Kante isn’t a DM if he’s gonna be in it’s over Kova but he’s not good enough anymore Kovas been much better this season
Mendy over Alisson 😂😂😂 Alisson is in contention for player of the year shouts he has been that good, if it wasnt for Salahs mental G/A numbers Alisson has comfortably been Liverpools best player this season and saved us multiple points/goals
And you think Mendy isn't in contention? Lmaooo
@@DS-dw3pz nope he isnt, cos one of them is 3rd in the league and the other is taking his team to challenging for 4 trophies, there is levels to this game 😭
@@Robc3107 yeah bro...so by yr logic Gabriel Jesus is better than Salah?🤣 Lmaoo...It's not a one man team for God's sake lmaooo
@@DS-dw3pz not a one man team, but when a striker is one on one with a keeper and the keeper stops him that is a one man job, clearly a chelsea fan so no point discussing this, ask everyone else in the league bar liverpool and chelsea fans who they would rather have and I bet you 95% take Alisson 🤷🏼♂️ if youre happy with mendy good for you but I wouldnt swap alisson with any other keeper in the world
@@Robc3107 I think you are the one whose a fking Liverpool fan because Mendy can do the same or even better than what Alisson does unless you are in denial...I dk how delusional are you that you forget the insane saves that Mendy made like the one against Mane... Goalkeeper of the year although Alisson has better defence...The only thing Alisson is better is his ball control on his feet that's all....Man you are pure comedy cz you are the one being in denial Liverpool fan and you are telling I am a Chelsea fan just because I think Mendy is better lmaoo
Can’t wait for the Man City - Norwich combined 11 episode!
Mine would be Allison, Robo, VVD, Silva (it’s rl close tho), Trent (also close), Fabinho, Jorginho, Thiago (this midfield could pass through any press), manè, Diaz, Salah. I think the only reason they didn’t rl mention Diaz in the video is when this was recorded which was apparently months ago
Kovacic over jorginho but other than that you're right
How does Mendy nick it against Ali? Allison is technically better than Mendy bruh. Mendy might be current champion, but Ali has been there and done that too. He’s also the only GK to ever win the Copa America, CL and PL Golden glove in 1 season. Also, he won the Yashin award. Mendy is a good GK, but no way does he get ahead of Brazil’s number 1, Ali. I love Hendo but Kovacic is a beast man, him and Thiago in the mid would be nutty. This judge don’t know what he’s talking about.
TBH mine would be:
Ali,
Trent, Silva, VVD, Robbo,
Fab, Kovacic, Thiago,
Salah, Bobby, Mane.
Rory is always a great feature on these videos. Compared to deluded Ty 😂
TY living rent free in your .... lol
Ty has learning difficulties, I think AFTV & Ladbible have exploited this for views.
Calling him deluded is just silly, if you don't agree with what he has to say, just leave him be...
“This is my scouser we’re on about here your dissing my clubs legend” James is brilliant like😂😂
Alison. Trent. VVD. Silva. Robertson. Fabinho. Kante. Tiago. Salah. Mane. Diaz... nothing to debate...
Bench would be Mendy. Matip. James. Henderson. Mount. Havertz. Firmino. Jota.
(You literally need a bench to have the audacity to add 4 Chelsea players to this team.. stop trolling)
Mount over Thiago easily this season
I'm sure they're regretting Thiago not being in there now. and how Alisson isn't in it is insane.
Would love to see James and Ty having a debate
I agree 100%
imagine saying thiago doesn’t walk into any midfield in the world 💀 whats this guy smoking
One only has to look at his defensive and offensive stats
Midfield should be Kante - Fab - Thiago, as Kanté never plays in that deep role regardless: he’s a box to box player. Goalkeeper is no doubt Alisson. Mendy had an alright spell but Alisson is emerging as an alltimer.
Finally someone who isn't stupid
Alisson, TAA, Rudiger, VVD, Robbo. Thiago, Fabinho, Kante. Diaz, Mane, Salah.
For me personally.
Matip over rudiger
@@siralexferguson4640 yeah that’s defo debatable, I just tried not to make it solely Liverpool, but I hear it
@@Sneakz97 Chelsea fan here. Thiago Silva over Rudiger for sure. Rudiger massively over rated by oposition fans whilst Thiago Silva massively under rated. Rudiger is shit in a back four - there's a reason he barely played under Lampard. He's a system player at best. Watch him flop at Real Madrid just like Courtois and Hazard did in their first seasons struggling to adapt (yes Courtois is world class now but he struggled at the start)
@@JohnHolywell they don't watch us play football bro.. waste of time even explaining to them.. they warch MOTD highlights... thiago silva has been our best centreback again.
Tbf to stevo I think this was filmed just after the caraboa cup. Because rn fabinho>kante Alisson>Mendy Thiago>henderson or kovacic
Fun fact- Trent had better defensive & offensive stats than all the big six right backs this season.......
How is Mendy over Allison? Literally Allison saved Liverpool countless times , and don't get me wrong Mendy is a good goalkeeper, but this season he messed up quite a few matches that cost Chelsea important points
It’s none sense Allison is the best keeper in the world let alone Ty epl
Think this was filmed shortly after afcon when mendy was being made out to be amazing
3 months later and Trent over James is still the biggest sin I’ve ever seen🤣
Biggest W
Its been 6 months now, it looks even worse now
@@ayaanontherun3361 Yeah looks like James cant even string more than 3 games without an injury..... it is worse now
@@kevalshah4097 Reece james has the same G/A as trent this season and he has barely even played... such an argument for trents 'great attacking qualities'
@@18xDJHx And yet trent has more games played in his career, more goals, assists, clean sheets, defensive stats (tackles, clearance etc) and more trophies. Keep sucking up to a injury prone crap RWB.
As a Chelsea fan, I have a lot of respect for Liverpool. Maybe even a bit more than I should. They always give us a good match when we face each other. We’ll see you May 14😉💙
Yeah man we'll see you there hopefully it'll be a good match like last
Wouldn't mind the same result though 😜
@Liverpool Oh thx for telling me. I had no idea
How long ago was this video recorded? Thiago has been sensational recently yet they act like he’s been poor all season
This episode have more agreements than arguments… I love it
Alisson over Mendy every day of the week. Easiest decision of my life. Mendy doesn't even get in top 5 goalkeepers in the world. Have you seen him with his feet?!
1) Alisson
2) Ederson
3) Donnarumma
4) Neuer
5) Courtois
Neuer 4th
Neuer?
How is Alisson not in this team? He's kept Liverpool in the title race with some of his performances when Liverpool aren't at their best
Cuz Mendy is better
Thiago has been liverpools best central midfielder this season...
Rory saying that Fabinho is the only player that can compete with Kante, what about Rodri? He’s so underrated it’s unreal
This is the worst possible time to have this debate…we do this in Early December, this is a different story!
That midfield wouldn’t look as bad if Kanté wasn’t in it or if he was in the position that he really plays, with Fab as the 6.
Yeah I'd pick Fabinho Kanté and Thiago
Mason Mount (27 goals/assists this season) gets in a midfield 3 with Kante and Thiago. If Mount was scouse can you imagine the hype?
Personally I’d play it as Fabinho dm with Kante and Thiago
My XI
Mendy, R. James, T. Silva, Van Dijk, Robertson, Kante, Kovacic, Thiago, Salah, Jota, Mane
they can joke but Rice is in that conversation
Tell me one thing that Mendy is better at than Alisson 😂 I can help you, there is nothing that he is better at than Alisson.
Surprised Rory didn’t have Havertz over Firmino.. apart from that I think they were quite fair. But Thiago HAS to be in this team! 🤣
Kai is fantastic, really overlooked as well.
@@pendafen7405 honestly mate fact that havertz is not even mentioned is a joke, the man easily gets in over firmino and jota currently imo
@@ashleylang5231 He doesn’t though. Any unbiased Chelsea fan would say this. Firmino inform is far better as a false 9. Liverpool have won it all with him as a false 9. Jota has scored 20+ goals and is lethal in front of goal.
@@Yaowza1227 even if you don’t think havertz is better, there’s no denying the man has crazy potential for such a young player, he will eventually be world class and surpass them both I promise you
@@Yaowza1227 your right. Havertz over bobby but Jota is wow man. Hes a different gravy
Allison
Trent Rudiger VVD Robbo
Thiago fabinho kante
Salah Jota Mane
Rudiger is trash, he'll struggle in a back four. Matip all day
I love this ! Good banter and actual logic, nobody letting egos get in the way. Now do this for the other debates
Allison gets in over Mendy, he’s saved us countless times and has the best 1 vs 1 statistics in the league. Kovacic has had some world class moments this year but Thiago atm is the best skillful Cm in the world. I’d actually put Thiago in over Hendo though, our captain has done so much for us in our success but if we’re talking this season, he doesn’t make it unfortunately.
Midfield should be
DM- Fabinho
CM- Thiago
CM- Kanté
This season it should definitely be fabinho thiago kovacic
@@COXiiBOii I think you could argue either. Both class
@@declanmcghie1559 Kante’s had a poor season, Kovacic has been chelsea’s best midfielder this season
@@COXiiBOii this season Kovacic, overall Kanté
Kante hasn’t played cdm for a long time. How can a Chelsea fan not know this. This whole video aged well for James
People still saying Trent can’t defend hahaha 😂😂
The anti-Scouse propaganda is strong 😂 it's why Allison, Fabinho and Thiago still get massively disrespected
@@aisosaihama it’s insane. All 3 are arguably the best at their position in the world. I don’t think anyone from the Chelsea squad, can be considered the best in the world in their position.
i mean he got spun by Gordon for 90 mins against everton
@@LeoCooperMMA if u go near him he dives 😂
@@ronrammer4666 Kimmich and Casemiro have ran rings around Fabinho whenever they’ve played against him, come on. Thiago isn’t half the player Modric is either.
How can you hate these two? They are just so sensible in their debates
James having so much fun putting those red pucks on the table lol
Rory knows ball he just accepts and puts robbo,salah,Bobby and mane in without any stupid arguments. RESPECT ✊
Thiago's been quality and can do things Kovacic can't. I rate both highly, but it has to be said, the putting down of Thiago here was nuts! He's been very good. Maybe he doesn't slot in perfectly ala Bayern at Liverpool, but he's become incredible central to the way we play. Also rating Mendy over Alisson as though that's a straight forward decision, nuts!
Kante, Kovacic & Thiago would be such a class midfield 🤩 you could also easily put Fabinho in there anyway tbf🔥
‘What you doin? This is aggressive?’ 😂🤣🤣
This aged well
As a Liverpool fan I honestly wouldn’t take a single chelsea player, maybe kovatic for the bench but as far as the first team goes No one’s getting first team football, Liverpool are better than Chelsea in every department
🤡
@@hypello9534 the go to Chelsea fan emoji😂
@@bensurgenor5355 🤡
Arrogance 🙄
@@isaiahjalloh8152 you love it mate
Kante has always played dm only in double pivot system. He's never been a lone holding midfielder.
Let's be honest - Kante is the only player that gets in the Liverpool team - and it's at the expense of hendo (as much as i love hendo).
It's criminal that Mendy gets in ahead of Alison. Mendy is a good keeper - but Alison has everything Mendy has and more. Better distribution, best in the world 1v1 and even has a cracking header on him.
i love these debates. watched every single one