The Downfall of Drag Race Untucked

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  • Опубликовано: 20 мар 2024
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    Alyssa vs Jade and the "backrolls?!" argument, Willam vs Phi Phi, Everyone vs Mimi and Serena. RuPaul's Drag Race untucked has given us some iconic moments.
    Throughout the years, what was once an explosive, crazy viewing experience has turned into a dull, meaningless 20 minutes. Untucked has been a staple of the Drag Race series since Season 2, but as time has gone on, it has become less and less important to the show. "You're only getting half the story" isn't the case any longer.
    Today, we'll look at the biggest differences in Untucked and maybe why its success has waned throughout the years. We'll ask if it's even worth having on anymore and if it should be replaced.
    Let me know what you think in the comments below!
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  • @MaggyRarefication
    @MaggyRarefication 2 месяца назад +2128

    The #1 issue for me is when the guest judges always visit in the middle of the drama just to say the same things every time and disrupt the fun chemistry and banter between the queens.

    • @cinnamonroll96
      @cinnamonroll96 2 месяца назад +90

      I think that’s annoying too. it’s clear they want to interrupt before things get too heated or resolved to quickly. So they chime in and drama is hopefully continued next untucked or whatever.

    • @michaelr289
      @michaelr289 2 месяца назад +2

      Hate when queen fighting on drag race

    • @dmatt339
      @dmatt339 2 месяца назад +107

      And literally every guest judge that comes back says the same thing. “I’m so inspired by what you all do, blah blah.” Feels very forced and virtue-signaly to me.

    • @spectre5307
      @spectre5307 2 месяца назад +64

      ​@@dmatt339 that reminds me of when Tiffany pollard came in s11 and instead of saying something inspirational she asked all the girls about waxing her 😺
      ☠️☠️

    • @CarboneCat
      @CarboneCat 2 месяца назад +73

      I remember that Dita Von Teese waited for the queens in season in the golden lounge but the queens never showed up because they were too busy quarreling.

  • @noelmsp007
    @noelmsp007 2 месяца назад +1187

    "If you're not watching Untucked, you're only getting 89% of the story"

    • @11pyrrhus11
      @11pyrrhus11 2 месяца назад +68

      More like 99.99% of the story

    • @boinggerss1560
      @boinggerss1560 2 месяца назад +77

      @@11pyrrhus11you forgot to factor in roscos which now has entered the universe of the story telling 😂

    • @RealLordVoldemort
      @RealLordVoldemort 2 месяца назад +51

      I saw a comment saying something like
      "If you're not watching untucked, roscoes, pit stop, watcha packin, the queens social medias then you're only getting 10% of the story"
      And that made me laugh. Its so accurate

    • @collinkilloran5721
      @collinkilloran5721 2 месяца назад +13

      @@RealLordVoldemortand fashion photo ruview

    • @noelmsp007
      @noelmsp007 2 месяца назад +15

      @@boinggerss1560 if only Eliminaysha would calm down and start acting like the 3x eliminated, 5 episodes-total-in-two-seasons rugirl she is- instead of this rpdr insight guru she pretends to be. 😌

  • @orange9107
    @orange9107 2 месяца назад +652

    The celebrity guest judges going in to profess their bravery in allyship is so cringy its horrendous

    • @dmatt339
      @dmatt339 2 месяца назад

      I just made this comment somewhere else here. It really is so forced. They’re all like, oh we heard the red states are coming for the drag queens so we’re suddenly all so inspired by the bravery of what you do” and it’s bizarre. Like these queens lip sync and pop their pussies for dollar bills (more power to them) and guest judges act like they’re saints.

    • @salvatore2004
      @salvatore2004 2 месяца назад +59

      "celebrity" meanwhile its someone who no one knows and they probably have less followers than the queens.

    • @bluecircle06
      @bluecircle06 2 месяца назад +14

      "I hope you are so proud of what you do!🥺🥺"
      Yeah ok who and who, now get tf out of here💀💀

    • @bluecircle06
      @bluecircle06 2 месяца назад

      ​@@salvatore2004💀

    • @remconet
      @remconet 2 месяца назад +8

      Like Every. Single. Episode!

  • @agcaoiliproductions9580
    @agcaoiliproductions9580 2 месяца назад +926

    Didn’t Katya say “When did people start thinking Drag Queens were nice?”

    • @SweetJackknife
      @SweetJackknife 2 месяца назад

      So fucking true. Doesn’t excuse SOME behavior but like… drag queens are notoriously shady I don’t get ittttt

    • @anthonyd9844
      @anthonyd9844 2 месяца назад

      When gen z and gen alpha began derailing the fun of the show and trying to get drag queens to be besties. No real drag queen is like that hahaha

    • @user-xr5kp6qz8g
      @user-xr5kp6qz8g 2 месяца назад +16

      I agree, but I think there's a different between being catty and funny shady and being an asshole and bullying other queens for the fun of it and messing with their minds

    • @Viewer962
      @Viewer962 2 месяца назад

      @@user-xr5kp6qz8gThat is catty, this isn’t rupauls best friend race. Fans have forgotten this is a competition, they should be playing mind games if they want to. Drag Queens aren’t “nice” we’re treating them all like role models when they’re there to make good tv and compete. If they come there and want to be a saint and be that role model that should be their choice. As long as outside of TV they’re being professional it doesn’t matter. It’s tv, it is fake! It’s about time people stopped putting these queens on pedestals and acting surprised when DRAG QUEENS of all people are shady bitches that love drama.

    • @chrisspike3282
      @chrisspike3282 2 месяца назад

      @@user-xr5kp6qz8g So you don't agree, stfu

  • @RunnerEye
    @RunnerEye 2 месяца назад +783

    Either bring back the different lounges and shady minigames they used to play ORRRR if they are insistent on it staying low budget, just include it in the main show like Drag Race UK 😤

    • @lan1135
      @lan1135 2 месяца назад +20

      Hey RunnerEye will you be my dad

    • @aaronlevesque8173
      @aaronlevesque8173 2 месяца назад +4

      Very this!

    • @samthepancake69
      @samthepancake69 2 месяца назад +6

      hi runnereye, you spoke facts and the truth

    • @alejotinganell5653
      @alejotinganell5653 2 месяца назад +5

      The pink one so terrify

    • @vv8mp
      @vv8mp 2 месяца назад

      ​@@samthepancake69han jisung

  • @noelmsp007
    @noelmsp007 2 месяца назад +653

    The overtly sensitive new fans are ruining drag! Plane Jane is getting dragged for being a "bully," meanwhile Raven and Raja have been favorites for over a decade 😒

    • @beardedqueen
      @beardedqueen 2 месяца назад +181

      Mama, kudos for saying that. For spilling.

    • @rasmusmalmberg6468
      @rasmusmalmberg6468 2 месяца назад +54

      Even queens like Dawn and Mhi'ya who are less confrontational are called "bullies" and "bad people" by these ridiculous fans. They care more than the queens do about the drama and they make the social media scene exhausting.
      People were commenting on Dawn's comment sections that she was a bad person and going to hell, all because she was shady and the advice she gave Plasma didn't help her. It's insane.

    • @yvonnenoel7206
      @yvonnenoel7206 2 месяца назад

      I have been saying this for years. The 12 year old little girls and wet-behind- ears Twinks seem to think that Drag Race is a Fashion Show. Most of them have NEVER been to a show or don't even know their local Queens, because they are too young to go to a bar. I wish Drag Race never became mainstream.

    • @itsgabbybtch5587
      @itsgabbybtch5587 2 месяца назад

      Bitch where? Plane is a fan favorite, most people are rooting for her. I feel like I'm one of the few people that's just neutral on her. Mhi'ya is the only one really getting shit due to her sending home everyone's musical theatre fave.

    • @twannifufu
      @twannifufu 2 месяца назад +39

      The new fandom is very unaware of drag culture. They don't engage with drag in the same way as previous generations. Their primary courses for drag are this show and social media, which does not give a full picture of the art form or the culture.

  • @lhhh88
    @lhhh88 2 месяца назад +274

    Watching the girls discuss who's in the bottom for the whole untuckes when we already know who got eliminated just feels pointless...

    • @ccckmp
      @ccckmp 2 месяца назад +3

      Agree

    • @katiesims2220
      @katiesims2220 2 месяца назад +11

      I know Trixie Mattel made a video on her channel talking about the production at drag race… but she said that editors will edit to point out who’s in the bottom and who’s in the top, but while the queens are there they really can’t tell what’s gonna happen since they don’t see the big picture. They don’t realize until after they get their critiques when they do figure out who’s likely going home.

    • @uswish.
      @uswish. 2 месяца назад +5

      That’s why i watch later so I can pause the main episode and watch untucked

    • @grantmegan91
      @grantmegan91 2 месяца назад +12

      ​@katiesims2220 I don't think the comment is saying that the queens already know whos gonna be eliminated. They're saying us as the audience don't want to hear them ponder over who is in the bottom /eliminated when we just watched the show before untucked so we already know who's leaving. It wouldn't matter so much if it wasn't all they talked about during untucked.

    • @sarabellaaa
      @sarabellaaa Месяц назад +1

      I pause the video as well then switch back 😂😂

  • @Stephenjosephbell
    @Stephenjosephbell 2 месяца назад +421

    Haven’t even started the video and I can confidently say the problem with untucked is the fans
    Also them sending in the guest judges right as the girls start to get into it is so annoying

    • @remconet
      @remconet 2 месяца назад

      It's not "the fans", it's a very select group of adolescent insecure children that are hormonal and all over the place, prioritizing their time to come up with new pronouns.

  • @metacrisis47
    @metacrisis47 2 месяца назад +203

    international seasons usually just lump untucked into the episode before the judges make their decisions. it works 100x better because they usually just condense whatever drama or fights into like the 5 or 10 minutes before the winner and bottoms are called. keeps the drama on screen, you don’t have to watch another show, it flows super well and you don’t have to sit through celebrities telling queens to “be who they are” or the eliminated queen packing their stuff.

    • @bluecircle06
      @bluecircle06 2 месяца назад +13

      Fr. Drag race phillipines probably has one of of my favourite untucked of all times. Mainly becuse queens qre not afraid to be shady nd messy

    • @dissonantdreams
      @dissonantdreams 2 месяца назад +5

      @@bluecircle06Philippines is just the best drag race franchise in general ❤️

    • @m00nrac00n
      @m00nrac00n 2 месяца назад +4

      ​@@bluecircle06As a european who grew up with filipino neighbours I can quite confidently say that filipinos just slay in general...everyone is playfuly shady, boots.

    • @FabiolaMacabre
      @FabiolaMacabre Месяц назад +1

      Yes that’s why I prefer some of the other international versions. Also it doesn’t feel as forced for dramatics like the American version feels

  • @AnRuixuan
    @AnRuixuan 2 месяца назад +166

    Mama, kudos for saying that. For spilling. In all seriousness, you definitely aired so many of my frustrations with the current Untucked format. The guest judges visiting back stage in particular is something that I can't stand pretty much every time now, regardless of if it's interrupting a fight or not. It's just unnecessary.
    One thing I do like in current Untucked (which I think is a holdover from old Untucked but I forgot) is the eliminated queens packing up and reflecting on their time at Drag Race. It's always nice to give the queen one final send-off before they go home.

  • @maximeminassian6002
    @maximeminassian6002 2 месяца назад +194

    The untucked this season basically peaked in episode 3 with Plane and Amanda argument and now the Plane’s in her congenial era it’s much less interesting.

    • @FabiolaMacabre
      @FabiolaMacabre Месяц назад

      Yeah , cause she’s not very interesting unless she’s being a bitch 😅

  • @Anthonydbrown13
    @Anthonydbrown13 2 месяца назад +91

    My two criticisms of the whole franchise is it seems less punk and alternative compared to earlier seasons and almost feels like it has become the show it once used to parody.

    • @birchiebaby
      @birchiebaby 2 месяца назад +20

      this, very much. drag race is such a low-key corporate environment now with the mainstream economic success. girls are thinking about reputation, merch, song streams, and touring instead of acting a clown and walking children in nature. also the whole undying love & respect they need to have for rupaul... i want queens standing their ground and less RuCult

    • @bbwbutt
      @bbwbutt 2 месяца назад

      Realest comment

    • @ChillHills
      @ChillHills Месяц назад +3

      It’s definitely changed from its humble beginnings on Logo.
      It’s nice to see the growth. But the challenges are becoming too sanitized.

  • @viki7268
    @viki7268 2 месяца назад +53

    Literally! At this point, you're better off watching the Roscoes viewing parties if you want the “other half” of the story lol

    • @grantmegan91
      @grantmegan91 2 месяца назад +8

      Even that drags on and on sometimes. I just watch drag tea served with Matt for the roscoe recaps 😅. Also I stopped liking naysha after her and her fans attacked that RUclipsr who uploaded clips from roscoes and talked about it. Lots of transphobic stuff hurled at the RUclipsr that naysha up voted 🙄

    • @ChillHills
      @ChillHills Месяц назад +3

      @@grantmegan91Looks like Matt will be getting more followers after the most recent video Roscoe’s uploaded.

  • @rohankirk8712
    @rohankirk8712 2 месяца назад +113

    Just give us two rooms Willam screaming "bar queen" from the other room or Dita von Teese just sitting there as PhiPhi and Sharon fight it out was peak

    • @CallMeChrisYT
      @CallMeChrisYT 2 дня назад

      Omg yes! We need the old style untucked back😊

  • @Koenig_Luiz
    @Koenig_Luiz 2 месяца назад +148

    I mean how hard is it to put the girls in two different rooms and entering unanounced in the middle of a read😂

    • @remconet
      @remconet 2 месяца назад +4

      Ah, the card board rooms. Those were the days!

    • @tombullard123
      @tombullard123 2 месяца назад +2

      Right like some girls to go to the werkroom, some into the untucked backstage waiting area then mix them midway

  • @angeltheekaiju
    @angeltheekaiju 2 месяца назад +70

    literally my only issue with this season of untucked is that every judge is being made to go in and try and have a lady gaga moment and it just breaks up the flow. untucked is about the queens having time to themselves, "backstage" in their own space. So many interesting moments this season of untucked have been interrupted by the guest judges being made to walk in and have the most uninspired interactions with the queens...

  • @tetrabelle
    @tetrabelle 2 месяца назад +59

    I think you're right the fandom is the biggest issue. No one can even win a lip sync without getting death threats much less have a fight.

  • @MotherGapshin12
    @MotherGapshin12 2 месяца назад +65

    We will never ever in the history of mankind will have another untucked moment like Mimi vs Everyone in All Stars 1.
    I genuinely miss the poor quality camera from early seasons and the dramatic ass sound effects and insane editing...I mean remember that one edit where it seemed that Jinkx was telling Ivy that she loved her?

    • @m00nrac00n
      @m00nrac00n 2 месяца назад

      "You👉🏻...Mimi Imfurst👉🏻...MIMI IMFURST👉🏻...Got Number *Third* in the voting?🤨...I dont believe it.❌"
      "Dont attack my Fans, B*tch. 🦚"
      "From the sh*t that Ive seen, you dont have that many.💁🏽‍♀️"

    • @yo_gabygabba
      @yo_gabygabba 2 месяца назад +1

      the best moment in one of the worst drag race seasons 😭

  • @Ennegro
    @Ennegro 2 месяца назад +40

    Season 11 to me was the grand final of untuck. Yviee vs the cast will always be peak untuck for me.
    1. Keep celebrity messages on a tv screen.
    2. Bring back the family messages ( loved those ).
    3.Separate the queens into different lounges.
    4. Let them fight it out.

    • @Ari-gp3im
      @Ari-gp3im Месяц назад +1

      Honestly Yvie had a lot of my favorite untucked moments ┐⁠(⁠´⁠ー⁠`⁠)⁠┌

    • @ehna8558
      @ehna8558 Месяц назад

      Cause them girls was always fighting😂😂😂😂

  • @Alvaral11
    @Alvaral11 2 месяца назад +56

    I think the difference is that production used to separate the type of reality show they were doing back then between Untucked and Drag Race.
    Drag Race was a competition reality show like Project Runway or American Idol, and Untucked was more like Big Brother were production expected the queens to do drama, fight and/or interact with each other.
    Now Untucked is an extention of Drag Race, it's a sort of recap to what we just watched on the episode, product placement for House Of Love Cocktails ™️, have the guest judge show up "unexpectedly" and if there's time fight.
    It looks and feels scripted and produced, it's not flowing naturally anymore.
    Also, the fans don't want a villain because they are the villains. They think that the way to show support to their favorite is to destroy another queen.

    • @dissonantdreams
      @dissonantdreams 2 месяца назад +5

      oh wow, that quote “the fans don’t want a villain because they’re the villains” just sums it all up for me!

  • @alexavo98
    @alexavo98 2 месяца назад +24

    im just soo curious from a production standpoint why they keep bringing the guest judges backstage - the queens don’t like it and have to fake being excited, clearly the guest judges are forced to do it and the audience HATES it - and surely it means they have to pay the celebs more for their contribution? Like WHO gains?!

    • @jjfrank
      @jjfrank 2 месяца назад

      To fill time because nothing of interest is happening

  • @lizaechelon
    @lizaechelon 2 месяца назад +42

    Latest Canada's DR season was a masterclass. Juicy moments, shady editing, great pace. Never felt a need to check my phone (which happens during the 2/3 of untucked)

    • @sondheimisGAWD
      @sondheimisGAWD 2 месяца назад +8

      I watched Canada’s Drag Race 4 Untucked WITH GRATITUDE

    • @andre.andrade91
      @andre.andrade91 2 месяца назад +6

      Except for the cast and the winner💀 The only interesting things were the beaver twist and Melinda, season was very predictable and the favoritism for the winner was so on the nose, to me it's a prime example of good production but poor casting

    • @bluecircle06
      @bluecircle06 2 месяца назад +7

      ​@@andre.andrade91truly. Miss melinda literally saved the season💀💀

    • @lizaechelon
      @lizaechelon 2 месяца назад

      @@andre.andrade91 agree!

  • @cuppapablo
    @cuppapablo 2 месяца назад +58

    Untucked now is:
    Safe queens discussing tops and bottoms
    Tops and bottoms enter, tops get their applause and bottoms get a chance to vent.
    Celebrity enters and performative chat happens which includes:
    -Praising the drag queens for being drag queens (bravery, drag is art, etc.)
    -I love drag and/or drag race
    -gay rights
    -advice for the queens, solicited or not
    Bottom queens learning lyrics and get pep talks from their friends.
    Eliminated queen reads notes from friends, packs and leaves.
    And yeah, back in the day the alcohol was flowing. But the biggest change is that the audience feels entitled to destroy queens on social media they don't like for whatever reason.
    So yes, queens have been more aware of what and how they say things. Editing themselves to death to avoid being on the receiving end of the hate.
    What people need to do is accept that this is a TV show. Whatever these people say and or do to each other is between them and no one else. Just because it's on TV doesn't give us license to insert ourselves.
    If a queen does something to a queen you like instead of attacking, how about go show some love to the queen you like instead?

  • @movieboy01
    @movieboy01 2 месяца назад +13

    Every video.
    Derek: "Hi, I'm Derek."
    No one:
    Not nobody:
    Me, sings: "....Hey Deeeerek..."

  • @CURohrer
    @CURohrer 2 месяца назад +25

    I really like how they do it in UK where the “Untucked” is built into the episode. You get the goods and lose all pointless time-filler.

  • @haunted14
    @haunted14 2 месяца назад +8

    Glad you brought up Gaga because she’s really the one celeb who went back to talk to the queens and who gave actual good, substantive, well thought out and well meaning advice and critique. Her and Tiffany Pollard are the only two judges who I appreciate in untucked. Miss Gaga for her realness and honest, good advice and Miss New York for asking about bikini waxes. Like, Miss Pollard really just wanted to kiki with the girls and I love that for her lmao

  • @FlimsyPickles
    @FlimsyPickles 2 месяца назад +16

    Instead of a celebrity judge it would be cool if they try out this idea for one season: a previous rugirl is the guest and she is the “moderator” for untucked and can give her experience and advice. She can also stir the pot and get the drama out. Also, it would show previous girls from the show have give them exposure!

    • @grantmegan91
      @grantmegan91 2 месяца назад +1

      Kinda like when Katya showed up for the most recent all stars when they were working on a challenge... she seemed to try to get some tea out of the cast but it didn't go over to well because she was acting so manic and silly.

  • @jennifermolinary
    @jennifermolinary 2 месяца назад +34

    I didn’t understand why I didn’t enjoy untucked these days and you just put it into words for me.

  • @jjfrank
    @jjfrank 2 месяца назад +8

    If I have to hear another guest judge say “drag queens are super heroes” when there could actually be drama, I might lose it.

  • @martins9813
    @martins9813 2 месяца назад +21

    bring the separate rooms backkkk

  • @ratazana1
    @ratazana1 2 месяца назад +15

    Totally agree with the guest judges. They unnecessarily hog the spotlight.
    But I really appreciate how Joel Kim Booster chose to sit on the side instead of in the middle like all the other judges. He understood that the queens should be the focus on untucked.

  • @mrf018
    @mrf018 2 месяца назад +7

    so predictable now:
    Queen A: omg who do we think is in the bottom??
    Queen B: yk well I felt good but not according to my critiques
    Queen C: *drink slurps*
    Queen A: girl yk you slayed so whatever
    Queen B: thanks girl
    *C List guest judge enters*
    C Lust Celeb: what you guys are doing here is amazing like i love how empowered you all are
    Queen D: thanks queen
    Queen D confessional: 'what [C-List Celeb] said is so validating ugh it ios so important now more than ever
    Prod: "sorry yall we gotta take [C-List Celeb] back to the panel"
    All: Bye C List Celeb! Love you!
    Queen B: ugh let me go learn this song girl
    Queen E: yk what I think I will too ugh
    Prod: 5 min warning!
    Queen C: okay let me get my heels back on

  • @reginaldclarke1758
    @reginaldclarke1758 2 месяца назад +11

    "Mama, kudos for saying that. For spilling."

  • @vbittencourt
    @vbittencourt 2 месяца назад +15

    Tha bad behaviour of the fandom dont come only from 13 year olds. There are adults behaving like idiots too :(

  • @11pyrrhus11
    @11pyrrhus11 2 месяца назад +28

    The vast majority of the blame for the decline of Untucked can be attributed to the people who find it acceptable to send so much hate and death threats to queens.

  • @izzyjoshuadavis
    @izzyjoshuadavis 2 месяца назад +7

    I hate that we will never get villains and people fighting on reality TV anymore. It's truly sad.

  • @kaylasays
    @kaylasays 2 месяца назад +81

    where am I? how did I get here?

  • @yiorgosorion
    @yiorgosorion 2 месяца назад +12

    They should make it the way it used to be when we literally HAD TO watch untucked to find out what or why sth had happened. Also, there used to be these cuts from untucked in the main show and we were like “omg we need to watch untucked cuz it’s gonna be juicy”
    Lastly, definitely get rid of guest judges talking to queens about the same thing over and over again!

  • @jaykknight2248
    @jaykknight2248 2 месяца назад +7

    The celebrities literally come in and say mama kudos to you for saying that and leave.

  • @xviolaa
    @xviolaa 2 месяца назад +9

    They done fucked up Untucked when they started sending B list celebs into the room the second it gets heated. Idm if the guest judges wanna meet the girls but there is surely a better way to do it

  • @overnightsiren
    @overnightsiren Месяц назад +3

    The downfall can be broken down into three simple things:
    1) the queens don’t have separate rooms anymore to talk shit in
    2) the guest judges coming backstage removed any and all drama and seems to always happen during the juiciest moments
    3) video messages from home also remove drama 100% of the time
    Honorary mention to so much screen time dedicated to the eliminated queen packing up.

  • @chris18560
    @chris18560 2 месяца назад +8

    I stopped watching Untucked when I had to chase down episodes on whatever new streaming service or network the show itself was airing on. Once I fell out of the habit I didn’t bother watching even the regular TV seasons of Untucked either. Sounds like I haven’t missed much.

  • @sunnygolightly9996
    @sunnygolightly9996 2 месяца назад +4

    Here is a reminder that although they are not as explosive as early seasons untucked, season 8 and season 9's untucked are just as entertaining as the main show.

  • @mixedberryfebreeze3844
    @mixedberryfebreeze3844 2 месяца назад +7

    Literally spit nothing but facts. Only thing I will gently push back on: I’m okay with them not pushing alcohol on them as much as reality shows did 10-20 years ago. I think we can get great drama without Jujubee s2 Black Velvet lipsync levels of drunk 😂 (that being said, that was iconic)

  • @DelTashlin
    @DelTashlin Месяц назад +3

    I liked season 7's untucked because it felt like no one was vamping for the cameras. The moments of Katya and Ginger goofing off on the loading ramp...hilarious without any *performance*.

  • @ko8026
    @ko8026 2 месяца назад +11

    The pit stop could be a could replacement maybe

  • @cuzitsnecessary
    @cuzitsnecessary 2 месяца назад +4

    There was multiple times this season Plain Jane was gonna get read and the guest judges interrupted! 😡 Let the queens play out their drama it makes for the following episodes worth watching, WOW/Rupaul!

  • @CrazyH0bag
    @CrazyH0bag 2 месяца назад +4

    Yeah I need the guest judges to stop coming in and talking to them, especially when things are just starting to become spicy. I would also love if they cut out the queens packing up at the end. That's 3 minutes that could be used for more untucked lounge time. I find the packing up so boring, so I don't even watch those any more.

  • @JkatBlue
    @JkatBlue 2 месяца назад +7

    Instead of this version of untucked, they could play the Hey Qween interviews of the eliminated queen that week (they they currently show on WOW+) and Whatcha Packin

  • @ignaciojoelnexlsoncanas29
    @ignaciojoelnexlsoncanas29 2 месяца назад +3

    People are hypocrites. They want drama, but at the same time, they criticize it.

    • @cuzitsnecessary
      @cuzitsnecessary 2 месяца назад +3

      Exactly ...Drag Race, Survivor, AND Big Brother use to be so fun when we had drama now it's tame.

    • @ignaciojoelnexlsoncanas29
      @ignaciojoelnexlsoncanas29 2 месяца назад +1

      @@cuzitsnecessary I remember watching survivor and it used to be so good

  • @honeyangel0800
    @honeyangel0800 2 месяца назад +3

    Nice video! I’m glad you talked about it. The new untucked definitely has its own starter pack now especially with the guest saying something like “you guys are so brave for what you do. I love you guys” etc.

  • @zak5697
    @zak5697 2 месяца назад +12

    Untucked in its current form is Unwatchable, and it’s almost completely a production problem. Curious to see what you say about it

    • @bluecircle06
      @bluecircle06 2 месяца назад +2

      I won't say unwatchable (especially this season), but...yeah not great💀

  • @texlyr3457
    @texlyr3457 2 месяца назад +4

    thank you for speaking up about thissss. all your points made sense.

  • @jamoore418
    @jamoore418 2 месяца назад +4

    I agree with everything you’re saying, but I don’t want the solution to be to get rid of it. 😢 I wish they would revamp it. I genuinely loved it almost as much as the main show back in the day and I miss it so much

  • @jesscorner6381
    @jesscorner6381 2 месяца назад +1

    Having a horrible day at work so I’m very excited to listen to this!!

  • @Alatorre05
    @Alatorre05 2 месяца назад +3

    It was very entertaining in the beginning, it's just they cut that Amanda vs. Plane storyline wayyyy too short with no real payoff either since we didn't even get a lip sync between the two. They could have easily carried that dynamic for way longer than they did. It's one of my biggest issues with this season is that major storyline getting cut just as it was getting good.

  • @stanloona8953
    @stanloona8953 2 месяца назад +3

    Derek I live in Sweden and the seasonal depression is so real 💀 it’s dark for so long and it really creates road blocks for even some of the smallest things.

    • @dawnrowlands2408
      @dawnrowlands2408 2 месяца назад +1

      Good morning, Stanloona. As soon as the clocks go back and the nights start drawing in, I feel it too. At least here the nights are getting lighter, trees are budding and the spring flowers are out.
      Hope you're doing OK. Sending you positive thoughts from the Welsh border, hope you have a good day from an Internet stranger.

  • @wulyfs
    @wulyfs 2 месяца назад +1

    always love your videos, so insightful, you offer really thoughtful feedback and show such a love for what the show is and what the show could be. hope things feel better for you soon!

  • @brittv420
    @brittv420 2 месяца назад +1

    yes i feel like i missed out so much by not having access to the earlier season’s untucked episodes. meanwhile with the new seasons it doesn’t feel like missing as much 😅

  • @nicojimenez9614
    @nicojimenez9614 2 месяца назад +22

    tl;dr - blame it on the audience, their hyperfixations and chronic unemployment.

    • @nsjhdhdhdbhsudgvdydb7751
      @nsjhdhdhdbhsudgvdydb7751 2 месяца назад +5

      Thats super oversimplified, tv culture has also changed so has knowledge and awareness of mental health, i dont think many queens want to make a big scene on national tv knowing the impact it will have on their future mental health. Also stop being classist to unemployed people.

  • @JoaoGabriel-tx7bm
    @JoaoGabriel-tx7bm 2 месяца назад +3

    As a person who didn't watch untucked (I thought it was a silly show that showed the queens hanging out, basically what it is today) while I marathoned all the seasons, I really missed a lot of the story. I watched some of untucked after I finished season 11 and a lot started making sense to me, it definitely felt like I missed something, by not watching it. Today its just a side show if you wanna see the queens being friendly.

  • @Brandoncye
    @Brandoncye 2 месяца назад

    Uploaded 36mins ago!! I'm early! Love your videos! ❤ thank you so much for giving me content to watch in-between episodes of DR! ❤❤❤

  • @wintertingz
    @wintertingz 2 месяца назад +5

    I NEED another how likely queens would be on all stars video!

  • @jesiahhubbs7216
    @jesiahhubbs7216 2 месяца назад +1

    Girl for real!!! My bestie and I used to be so excited to watch untucked so we could see the real drama, and now it’s like, wtf?!

  • @frenchhufflepuffie83
    @frenchhufflepuffie83 2 месяца назад +5

    It's better when it's part of the actual episode tbh

  • @cinnamonroll96
    @cinnamonroll96 2 месяца назад +1

    Omg perfect video for my iftar meal :)

  • @bucy
    @bucy 2 месяца назад +2

    So proud of you, instead your backdrop being completely wrinkly now it is only wrinkly in the lover right corner! You are doing great sweetie!

  • @erikm8372
    @erikm8372 2 месяца назад +5

    People are so annoying that they don’t know how to feel these days. On one hand, you would think everybody is all open-minded, modern and “free“, and “live and let live” and blah blah blah. And yet the more entrenched into society the media and entertainment becomes, it seems like people struggle even MORE to separate it from reality, which is weird to me. The reason why older seasons of shows, Untucked included, could “get away” with stuff (which, let’s be honest, was never really that serious) was because people knew it was entertainment. They’re not dumb; even if some of the drama was real it wasn’t concerning the viewers-clearly it was drama between the people on TV… Like Shangela and Mimi. Who’s gonna get offended by that, that’s between them. People are so dumb.
    Also - if being “nice” and respectful is the case, why are the same ppl offended by every little thing, yet they turn around and do something seriously hurtful and offensive to someone close to them?! Or even worse-to someone who BELIEVES they’re closer than they (apparently) are. It’s like, people get offended but then they do what they want anyway, and say what they want all the time… and we’re just supposed to deal with it? Out of respect for them? Btw I’m talking about in real life, real relationships and encounters, not necessarily celebrities.

  • @andreapannone4321
    @andreapannone4321 2 месяца назад +2

    CAN'T BELIEVE DRAG DUEL'S COMING BACK IM SO EXCITED

  • @flygirl4029
    @flygirl4029 2 месяца назад +3

    Honestly the other half of the story is at Roscoe’s 😂 I watch every Monday lol untuck is such a chore to get thru especially those boring ads 😒😂

  • @Ben-iw9gs
    @Ben-iw9gs 2 месяца назад +1

    Thank you Derek

  • @liatmalishkevitz557
    @liatmalishkevitz557 2 месяца назад +2

    I think what you said is pretty accurate, but if nothing is working for the editors so they just have to put on crazy dramatic sound effects, and show a lot of untucked exclusives. looking back now in the old s2-6 untucked, the editors back then did a painstaking work!

  • @tapiokaox1044
    @tapiokaox1044 2 месяца назад

    Thanks 4 Ur videos.
    I enjoy them so much.
    Saludos from México Derrick.
    💛🔍

  • @carlosriveraauthor
    @carlosriveraauthor 2 месяца назад +1

    Part of the reason my husband and I love España and some of the non-English seasons is that in other countries we tend to be more raw about the way we interact. So we get a much less sanitized version of the show that is closer to what it used to be. The US gives great seasons, but we already know the real drama is gone forever.

  • @yo_gabygabba
    @yo_gabygabba 2 месяца назад +3

    bring back more then one drink rule PLEASE

  • @ikarabout
    @ikarabout 2 месяца назад +1

    this is honestly your best take yet. very well done

  • @theoriginaltyler
    @theoriginaltyler 2 месяца назад +3

    I used to religiously watch untucked but lately it’s hit or miss. Like you said, usually it doesn’t add much to the story lol

  • @aldwindelatorre5135
    @aldwindelatorre5135 2 месяца назад +1

    Make the pitstop host a regular judge and have the guest watch the filming of that episode so that after every elimination they'll film the episode to have more personal opinion on the show

  • @henriqueantunis4646
    @henriqueantunis4646 2 месяца назад +1

    I feel the same with depression. You're not alone

  • @ikerfuk_
    @ikerfuk_ 2 месяца назад +2

    Just a slight disagreement. Silver and gold rooms shouldnt ALWAYS be separated between safe and top/bttm. Add a little spice into the mix throwing queens around to make some odd pairs happen. A season like S16 would have queens separated almost always the same way and that would get boring real quick. Other than that, full agree.

  • @lia-DR
    @lia-DR 2 месяца назад +1

    actually the way I found Drag Race was through the seasons of Untucked which were available on youtube - the drama was so entertaining and prompted me to sign up and start watching the show!! i've always been very disappointed that Untucked no longer lives up to it's previous seasons but i hadn't considered the reasons for it before

  • @cinnamonroll96
    @cinnamonroll96 2 месяца назад +3

    I think bc of the digitalization esp in the last few years, queens get a lot more hate directed towards them.
    I don’t think 2024 or today is the problem per se or that fans are necessarily different now. I think if social media back had been the same as it is now, queens at that time would have gotten the same amount. Bc i don’t think “fans” were less hateful back then but just had less “opportunities” to hate a queen or make it known to the queen that they are hated, if y’all understand what I mean? So I think the main problem in terms of fan reception / queens reactions to that, is that now queens know a lot more if they are hated! Only jaremi was found by fans left and right even at that time and with the full on villain edit, it didn’t help. Such a tragedy honestly that jaremi gets blasted in the season as a villain where the hero to that story full on is a villain. Even with willam, more than understandable that she was at her wits end with that girl.

  • @LightCosmos
    @LightCosmos 2 месяца назад +1

    There's a reason why the saying "If it aint broke dont fix it" exists
    Like i literally cannot understand why they changed it when it gave them so many iconic moments;
    i mean its not like it was on accident, it was clear they thought about it in detail,
    with splitting safe and critiqued girls, the safe girls having games and video-messages to pass time since there's gonna be less drama with them just being safe ect...
    Like unless it was a money thing i just cant understand it (tho i dunno how a full on studio would cost less than two small rooms 🧍🏻‍♀️)

    • @corvidsRcool
      @corvidsRcool 2 месяца назад

      It is a money thing. They're just in the werk room now, instead of a separate studio split into rooms with all the different furniture and fixtures.

  • @KhemTrailz
    @KhemTrailz 2 месяца назад +2

    But we hated people back then too. People just didn’t have a place to come together and complain they just had to watch and it really is still the same if one ignores it

    • @KhemTrailz
      @KhemTrailz 2 месяца назад +1

      Just me ignorant like me 😽

  • @lilhonor5425
    @lilhonor5425 2 месяца назад

    I think the OG untucked is also from an era where reality tv was allowed to be more heavily produced. Also love the psylocke/captain Britain shirt!

  • @blackjackal8770
    @blackjackal8770 2 месяца назад +1

    I LOVEEEE when you talk about Survivor!! Im begging you to start a suvivor channel or make more videos comparing both drag race with survivor LOL I'd eat that up!

  • @valleyval7
    @valleyval7 2 месяца назад

    I agree with everything you’ve said… I used to record untucked and never even watched it and now I don’t even bother recording it.

  • @danieladuran2899
    @danieladuran2899 2 месяца назад +2

    I loved the untucked episode in season 14 where everybody came out as trans

  • @g.g.2102
    @g.g.2102 Месяц назад +1

    I think untucked should change format. Instead of behind-the-scenes backstage, maybe they should all live together and interact in a house.

  • @heidepark3268
    @heidepark3268 2 месяца назад

    I also really like the season like canada and uk, where they are integrating untucked into the episode. They just cut in the funny and important parts and that’s it. I think that this way they can decide if something worth mentionable happened. And they can put Whatcha packing or Hey Queen after Drag Race

  • @TheGrifhinx
    @TheGrifhinx 2 месяца назад +2

    Basically a moral lesson of why no one is allowed to have nice things

  • @lollydolly4590
    @lollydolly4590 2 месяца назад

    Yayyyyyyy I’m so glad drag duel 2 is happening and I think it’s a great idea for everyone’s mental health to film it ahead of time ahaha
    On a related note and in regards to this video, totally agree that things can’t change until fans do

  • @damniellemonster
    @damniellemonster 2 месяца назад

    Also the quotes in the intro now - I don't recognize a single one! Lol they don't even use the most iconic new fights (like Maddy v Jasmine) 😂

  • @m00nrac00n
    @m00nrac00n 2 месяца назад +1

    _"Those celebrities come in and interupt those fights to have their spiel about liking gay people"_ is on point. It is so awkward when those straight cis people go backstage and start lamenting about protests and fighting for rights unprompted and inorganic, like yea girl, we *know* ...trust. This show is also an escape for many queer people and it is a bummer if it happens nearly every episode, just for those celebrities to have their "political moment". I rather watch the Queens kiki, argue and discuss those issues themselves, they know best as they are directly affected.

  • @nickinewnham2437
    @nickinewnham2437 2 месяца назад +1

    King derek has uploaded

  • @DJGNYC
    @DJGNYC 2 месяца назад +1

    Jonny’s “Hey Queen” this season has been a good replacement for “Untucked”, which is indeed very boring nowadays

  • @Em-uy9wj
    @Em-uy9wj 2 месяца назад

    I still go back to the ten year recap of untucked all the time. It’s less than two minutes and better than any single untucked since then haha

  • @AcetylCoA605
    @AcetylCoA605 2 месяца назад +1

    God I hope Plain has helped bring back the catty fights of Untucked for future seasons.

  • @tlightsylvan
    @tlightsylvan Месяц назад

    Sooo super duper excited to hear that drag duel season 2 is underway! I was just thinking the other day about how much I missed tipping the drag duel queens after each episode. Loved the talent so much. I know that it will prolly be a while before the show is ready to air but I’ll be waiting! 🎉

  • @emmymatt
    @emmymatt 2 месяца назад

    Hi Derek I hope you see this. I want you to know how much light you bring into my life with the content that you put out. You are very funny and entertaining and kind and there is something about listening to other gay people talk about drag race that fills my soul. You've been legit getting me through some horrible days at work. Not to sound parasocial but the podcasts and videos you put out bring me a sense of community which I'm like deprived of currently bc of circumstances.
    I really hope things get easier for you. I hope that you get to experience the joy that you bring to people's lives while making this content. Just wanted to let you know all this means a lot to me. Hope I'm not being too corny haha