Therapy & Self-Love: Link’s Deconstruction 2 Years Later
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
- Now it’s Link’s turn to revisit his deconstruction since their groundbreaking episode almost 3 years ago. In this episode, Link discusses struggling with feeling like he’s not a good person, and overcoming those feelings by finding peace in silence and putting his mental health as a top priority. Rhett and Link also discuss the problems with “progressive Christianity” and how their journey for self-enlightenment and ultimate truth is never ending. Plus, Link describes an unusual encounter with a Mythical Beast out in the wild.
EB #325, Original Release Date: 03/07/2022
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Link is the dad he wishes he would’ve had. Not to judge his dad, I’m sure he did the best he could at the time and had his own troubles and struggles. But Link is so thoughtful, caring, and loving and I feel like he’s consciously trying to give his children something that he was not given but needed. Love you guys. ❤️
Makes me happy to see someone break the cycles that tear through families. Many times people are neglected, abused, belittled and just kept from the love they deserve as kids, and they go on to treat their own children the same way. But for people like Link and myself, we learned how to be a good father by the things our fathers DIDN'T DO. Its all about the kids and it's all on us to make sure they have a great childhood and it carries over into a great adulthood!
I think he’s probably doing it consciously. When you grow up without a parent it’s hard not to acknowledge that in most things that you do.
Your comment is beautiful.
Is there much public info about Link's dad being neglectful? Not to push against your point, it just sounds a little too psychoanalysis-y to me
@@joshk. Link has mentioned in several different Ear Biscuits that his parents divorced when he was very little (2 yrs. old I believe). He also has stated that his dad was periodically absent from his life while he was growing up.
"It turns out I'm a pretty good person and I have to convince myself of that very frequently. And I think that's sad" That is exactly what I've been expereincing throughout my own deconstruction. My christian faith was centered so much around guilt. And I just feel so sad that I lost all those years thinking I wasn't a whole person when I really am.
💗💗💗
Honestly, I really appreciate that they're not disingenuous about the amount of money they've accumulated. When people act like that, it feels so fake. I like that they acknowledge it and how it may affect their perspective, but they're not bragging about it. Also, I know they must put a lot back into their various businesses. Thanks for being so real with us guys
OF COURSE THEY ACKNOWLEDGE IT. THEY CHOSE MONEY AND WORKING OVER VALUABLE FAMILY TIME THAT YOU CAN NEVER GET BACK. IT SHOWS THEIR PRIORITIES AND THE EXTENT OF THEIR GREED AND SELF ABSORBED NARCISSISTIC BEHAVIOR THAT YOU AND THE REST OF SOCIETY HAVE COME TO ACCEPT AS NORMAL AND FOR SOME REASON RESPECT.
@@CULT_OF_TRAGEDY relax mister
@@CULT_OF_TRAGEDY dawg what...
@@CULT_OF_TRAGEDY big wrong, you really are in some type of cult buddy
@@CULT_OF_TRAGEDY Well you can't have worry-free, secure, and quality family time when you're broke
Anxiety/depression are a flaw in chemistry not character - well done for giving medication a go Link 😸
that's a great way to put it! mind if i'm stealing that to tell myself?
Yeah. Assuming all anxiety needs to be medicated is ignorant and dangerous.
I was told i have a clinical anxiety disorder but after life/ thought / diet changes I rarely experience chemical anxiety.
@@voidlight6006 same here! Only medicine I'm on is Adderall for my debilitating ADD. I used to be on Prozac for "clinical depression", but after therapy and some minor lifestyle changes, I haven't been depressed in years. 👍
It's also connected to being in an existential crisis. Why are we in a state of existence and whats it's purpose and if reflecting further ... fear of hellfire. Animals don't have this. WE human are instinctively programmed to believe (Fitrah). filter the good of evil. Every child who sees a butterfly will automatically reflect that it must have a Creator. The fitrah also come forward fr example when a plane starts to fall. You won't see any nonbeliever in it.
I'd take a look into the last abrahamic religion's book.
Its also Generational. Its called Generational Trauma.
Ill explain:
If a pregnant mom with 3 kids suffers the loss of her husband while shes pregnant, her 3rd child and the unborn child will likely suffer lifelong depression and anxiety because the mother will be depressed after the hubby dies and it will pass on to he younger two.
Link, the reality is… that listening to you is so incredibly comforting. You are such a pure, kind, and honest person. Both of you really, just in your own separate ways. But thank you for all the healing tears that listening to you has brought me. You two are good big brothers. 💖
Link - "...the book is called 'Taming the Tongue'"
Rhett - "What the f*** is that about?"
Beautiful deadpan delivery. Had to pause and rewind because I started laughing and missed what was said after. A+
I literally had to rewind it at least 3 times to make sure I heard that correctly. Thought I was having a Good Mythical Evening flashback. Lol
Timestamp please?
EDIT: Never mind :D 56:10
I did the same thing! 🤣🤣
LITERALLY SAME LMAOOO
The censoring was really weird in this one. F*ck wasn’t censored but “shitty” was and then “shit” was also censored but then uncensored another time.
I'm only 20 minutes in, and I can completely relate with Link about his self-critic and perfectionism. I'm currently working with my therapist in trying to understand how those are standing in my way. It's a hard process, and I have a lot to unlearn. But thank you, Link. I look up to you and applaud you. I wish I had a dad to talk to like you.
As a part time agnostic with a hopeful foot in the church and an equally hopeful foot outside of it I very much relate to you Link. When I open the Bible most days I feel grief and decide to close it and on those days I often find myself listening to Dolly Parton and other music my grandmother listened to. It’s a way to connect to a spiritual root without the extra obligations of an actual tradition. Appreciate the candid discussion guys.
I had to read that twice.
“Part time agnostic” 🤣🤣🤣
I would love to have conversation with you. Sounds a lot like where I'm at in life.
At 22:10, when Link is talking about the tendency of Christians to say, "This is really on you," hit me really hard. The first person I talked to from my church about the doubts I was having responded with, "Well that's on you." Instead of trying to come alongside me and responding with grace and compassion, I was met with blame and accusation. It pushed me right out the door that I had already started to open.
I am so grateful to both of you for telling your individual stories regarding your deconstruction journeys. I relate to both of you on so many different points, and it has helped me to process a lot of things that I haven't thought about in a while.
Their journeys are so fascinating to me, for some reasons, despite me being raised in different culture.
You guys truly don't know how helpful these videos are. I grew up in the exact same lifestyle, and these are so cathartic. I love the philosophy you bring to the table, and would honestly love to hear more discussions.
Link showing up for himself and putting in the work is the feel good moment of the year.
I wish my dad loved me like Link loves his daughter.
Girl, same. *hug*
same
I LOVE YOU ALL MY CHILDREN
Same
me too, but seeing how he and many other wonderful fathers around the world love their daughters the way all fathers should makes me unbelievably happy for them
Sometimes I listen to Link talk and can’t help but think how proud his mother must be to have raised such a good, loving person.
I never thought I'd need something like anxiety medication until it became painfully obvious that I did. A friend took me to the doctor who immediately knew I had a problem and what to give me. I felt a sense of mental failure and actually felt depressed at having to take medication. That feeling soon passed when I began to feel stronger and more in control of my crippling anxiety. I took the meds until I felt I didn't need it any longer stopped it myself and have stayed off it knowing full well that it's there if I need it again. Taking that step to go to a doctor saved me from a dangerous spiral that was fast getting out of control and was the best decision I ever made. It's wonderful that Link has shared this aspect of his treatment as I'm sure there are people out there that will get the strength they need from his example, to seek help for themselves. Thanks so much to both of you ❤
its very interesting to me the difference between the reasons of conflict in rhett vs link's deconstruction, rhett's is very answers focused, he wants to find the truth, link's is very emotion focused, about dealing with guilt and anxiety
cheers to link for being so open and honest. also rhett for sitting listening quietly w/o interrupting him and waiting for his time to respond. refreshing.
59:03 made me tear up a little. I can relate 100%. You’re absolutely correct- you are a good person and it’s worth working to remind yourself 🤍 widening our concepts of spirituality is transforming and will set you free to thrive. I believe that’s what a loving god wants anyway.
I'm so thankful for you two,Rhett&Link. You are good people, honest men & great entertainers. I love that Link is shaking off the need to prove anyone else or himself that he is a good person. There is not an ounce of doubt in my head that he is. Religious or not, both of your's actions through out the years are a living proof that you two are made of a special ethereal dust & you both are among us in our lifetime to bring light. Thank you for existing, thank you for choosing to be vulnerable and open about your spiritual journes. ✨️💕
wonrg, they are evil criminals.
@@h7opolo Well that's the stupidest thing I'll read today
@@h7opolo lol what
@@h7opolo your mind must be a tormented place if you read my comment and this was what came to mind to you
58:55 hit my soul. I recently started therapy because i struggle severely with feelings of guilt and shame..sometimes for just existing. I really enjoyed this podcast. Thank both of you for sharing and inspiring .
This episode struck deep for me. The ways that Link thinks is so similar in how my brain works as well, so a lot of what he said resonated with me and also helped me to realize that I in turn need to keep the things that he said in mind. Thank you for always being there to pick me up guys, you are a reliant source of positivity and love in my life and I am incredibly grateful ❤☀️
Same! I think like Link too
I relate so much to Link in this, and it's good to hear as it's something I can't talk about with my own parents. Being on the same meds is just the icing on the cake (I'm at 100mg for anxiety and I feel like its the sweet spot) :)
While I’m not a deconstructing Christian, I do resonate with this so much. As someone with anxiety, OCD, and a type 1 like you, Link, this was great to hear. As a Christian, I feel so much of what you’re sharing, and even though you’re not a Christian anymore, I’m so glad you shared this because it’s making me feel relief that I’m not the only one who’s thought thoughts like you shared. Also, thanks, Rhett, for sharing what your wife is going through too. I didn’t realize that was an OCD thing or even a thing at all… makes my youth feel like so much sense now! I really enjoy these Ear Biscuits and hope you continue to do them. Catch you next week!
Link says that his realization that he is happy isn't going to sound profound but it truly is. I have had moments like that where alone I have realized I was at a point in my life where i was just happy and they are profound earth shattering moments. Life happens they don't stay but there is a chance to come back to them.
Listening to your deconstruction videos has been so therapeutic for me and so many others who have gone through something similar. Thank you both for being so open and real with us all.
Coming from a Greek Orthodox tradition and its deconstruction,it fascinates me how similar our journeys are (especially with Rhett's) and refreshing to watch/listen to an honest talk about spirituality with no agendas. A little anthropology and lots of love will free you. Thank you guys. You are truly mythical.
That whole "don't trust your instincts because you're inherently sinful" mindset got me trapped in a spiritually abusive relationship with a "godly" man. I learned a valuable lesson when the relationship/hostage situation was finally over.
Question: when you initially were with him, did you feel you had found the jackpot since he is "godly" and you could grow spiritually more with him?
Hearing Link talk about his relationship with his daughter makes me think about all the happy times I spent with my dad!
I think it's wonderful to have a moment where you can recognize you're happy! As someone who has realized for a while now that I am currently very unhappy, it forces me to recognize what I have to do in order to be happy again. I have been happy and know happiness, but now recognize that since I'm currently not I need to create change in order to be happy again. I think if you're in a place to be able to say you're happy is nothing but a good thing!
Thank you Link for being so open about your medication! I’m on them too and they have truly helped me so much! Panic disorder is awful and I hope that anyone dealing with mental health finds healing!
I feel this conversation so hard as a former evangelical. M o matter how you qualify and quantify it- it is brewed in shame. My deconstruction came when someone pulled the brick of ‘there is no difference between god fore knowing everything and predestining everything.’ And I couldn’t reconcile that with anything else in the faith anymore. I’ve never been happier. Or more empathetic.
I absolutely relate to the neurotic mindtrap of constantly questioning whether you are a good person. You do it not because it makes you happy but because it's just deeply important to you that you're a good person.
To be honest it must be so hard to even just recognize that you're happy now. And not even in spite of religion and having left it and your deconstruction, but just in general. Especially when you have "controlling/perfectionist tendencies" like you called them, that literally affect all of your surroundings and your own life and the way you conduct it and your relationships.
Link, I have recently come to recognize with my therapist and med manager that I have been living with an anxiety disorder most of my life.
I started anti-anxiety medication some months ago, and it has quite literally changed my life.
I don’t really have anyone around that shares a similar experience, so thank you for sharing yours.
Thanks, guys. These are always so helpful and hard hitting to someone who has been on a similar path. Keep on talking, the world needs more 💙
Religious trauma is so real, and it's being instilled upon thousands of young vulnerable people even right now. I'm so sorry, and so angry, and yet so happy because many people are breaking free from this oppressive system.
I am also on sertraline for anxiety, so hearing that Link is going through this process genuinely made me feel so happy for him. I know that relief and I know it's life changing. I hope it goes well! Love you guys.
I'm on sertraline too! for over a year now. I was on therapy one day, like 20 sessions in, I felt better than before, and my therapist said "maybe is time that you consult with a psychiatrist for some meds" I don't know what I specifically said that made her come to that conclusion but it was surprising to me, I always thought that you were prescribed with meds in a critical point, not just in a middle afternoon that for me was not a bad one. But it was, even with all the effort I was putting in I just didn't reach a healthy mental state. I realized now that sertraline has helped me a lot. I don't want to be on it ALL my life, but it's been nice to have some help while I reach a mental point (specially in my self-confidence) that will give me a life that is actually peaceful and happy. Good for you Link! Wishing you the best 💕 #50mgsertralineclub
I love Link so much. Being so honest today. I see so much of myself in you and your childhood and life. Thank you for being open. It helps me and makes me feel seen and valid. 💙 You're a dad any daughter would love to have. Admitting your down falls is something I wish more people were open about .. makes us all feel more human and accepted.
I'm on Zoloft too. I've been on it two years and it changed my life. I had no idea how bad my mental health really was. The side effects do go away so don't worry
I’ve heard “if you’re unhappy now, being rich won’t make you happy”
So I think that if you’re happy AND you’re rich, you’re doing really well, Link ☺️
Not having experienced fervent religious beliefs, this is reeeeeally helpft to understand where others are coming from. Always a pleasure to hear u. Also, I have not seen gmevening I'm all here for cursing 😂
Spirituality is finding PEACE. Peace in your heart. Peace in your mind and soul. If that happens while listening to Randy Travis. So be it. I find mind with my hands building and making things. I am at peace when I build. When I make things. The sound of the sandpaper. The squeak of screws against wood. The sound of the brush on canvas. Peaceful.
Wow! It's already been 2 years since you first publicly shared your deconstruction. Time flies! Your stories of deconstruction have helped me and encouraged me on my own deconstruction. Thank you so much for being honest, open, and vulnerable! I really look up to you and appreciate all that you do!
Listening to this episode made me cry. Genuinely. Link's openness and honesty (and Rhett's commentary and view of the Bible and religion) gives me so much hope. I can grow up and become older and wiser like these two men. And have families. I have been so deeply affected by my tumultuous relationship with my evangelical conservative parents (I'm 24 now), I was set on never having children. But seeing Rhett and Link, who are grown men and fathers, be so open about themselves and showcase things they are still working through, gives me hope that life is still worth living in the end (and that maybe there's space in there to have a functional family as well). Thank you R&L.
Note to the editor: you censored only a small portion of the sh*ts and totally left the f**k uncensored 😂
(I mean I think you should leave them all uncensored lol)
It's nice to hear someone else that has left the traditional church. I have done the same. I tend to keep my feelings close and not share with "believers". They can't possibly understand. But overall I am happy with my life and decision to live my life as I see fit without the guilt of religion. It's very freeing. I enjoy your videos. Thanks for your honesty on all your subjects.
even when i can't relate to the whole christianity/evangelical faith and stepping out of that. that's just not in my life. i do really enjoy listening to these conversations due to the fact they are so genuine. and real. especially the link parts where he references all his growth and self reflecting with and without therapy, the way the thoughts are going, the way he can observe and recognise them now. it's really refreshing and valuable to share with such openness and pure vulnerability. without the judgments, without the immediate rationalising that rhett sometimes can fall in. just letting it be as it is. thank you so much, link. thank you guys for sharing yourselves with the whole world.
My Reb says: 'Who is rich? He who is satisfied with his lot.' I am so enjoying these talks. Ear biscuits is surely nourishing my ears! Excellent!
You ARE a good person, Linkster. You deserve to be happy and enjoy the life you guys have built. 💓
Link mentioned that he experiences this, but one of the biggest changes since deconverting is being able to trust myself. Instead of completely ignoring my feelings, I can feel them, I can analyze them, I can even trust them. I think this is largely why my political views changed--I can actually trust my thoughts and my feelings, and I'm allowed to change my stance as much as I'm convinced to.
This is so familiar to me. As a former Christian, it was important to me to send time in meditation to just stay grounded because I can very easily spiral. For a long time I found myself only "counting it" if I was literally meditating in the most sterotypical ways you can think of. It was honestly my daughter who helped me realize you can mediate any way you damn well please. In the shower, in the car listening to randy travis, eating a delicious bowl of ramen. Its just the act of quieting my mind to remind myself to be in the moment of what I am doing that to me has become the act of meditation. But WOW, can I relate to how quickly I could slip back into the "rules" of any religious practice. Its so scary how that childhood indoctrination stays with you truly your entire life.
Absolutely love this, and Rhett's. Very relatable for me, being a Southern Baptist raised child like you guys
35:30 totes on point. WOW. I struggled with mental health for many years cuz I "wasn't giving it to God, or reading my bible enough" I'm so glad I sought help from a licensed therapist, got on medication, and faced the truth. It changed my life!!!!
It feels a bit bizarre to me how anxiety stays so similar throughout different experiences. Although Link's was translated often through his faith, and that's not something I grew up with at all, the perfectionism and the constant trying to be a good person is something I relate to so strongly. I also have an anxiety disorder, (among other things,) and although everyone has a different journey, my anxiety has become a much smaller and more manageable beast over time. So for anyone needing a little hope- therapy and meds can actually made a difference, with enough time and work.
So I've finally caught up with these videos. I was a big fan a while back and kinda dropped off, and seeing you guys after all this time has been heartwarming, especially seeing how similar parts of our paths have been. I had a personal deconstruction and deconversion from a very similar background as you guys, complete with creationism. It's been a lot to handle. Honestly I was blown away by Rhett's first deconversion video two years ago because of how deeply it felt like he and I had such similar paths. It felt like seeing a future version of myself who's just a bit further along with processing it all than I am now. And that's so comforting.
Thank you guys so much for being open about your journeys, and I'm so glad you've both found peace and meaning on the other side! I'm slowly making my way that way, too, and being able to hear your perspectives has given me a lot to think about, and it's really helped me heal a bit, too.
It's been a while, but here's from an old fan. Thank you both so much!
when link said he realised that he’s happy - instantly my eyes welled up. i love this for him.
This was so beautiful; Link's journey resonates with me and his words just move me so deeply. So proud of him. Thank you for another lovely episode. Love you both
It was so amazing to hear another adult talk about finally medicating their anxiety disorder. Link's story, including the faith background, is so close to my own. I'm so grateful to hear someone else articulate it. Thank you
I’m actively deconstructing my religious past, to be more specific, Catholicism and when Link was saying that he realized he was still a good person, that’s what resonated with me. As a Catholic I believed the only way to be a good person was to go to Church, devote myself to the Holy Trinity and be a nice human, but part of me always has doubted that I’m still a good person because I don’t devote myself to the holy Trinity anymore and I don’t attend Church, thank you for that Link, thank you.
As a Catholic myself (a seminarian too actually), the only way to be a good person is to recognize your own sinfulness, make change as best you can, and accept that grace of redemption through the Sacraments.
If you expected to become a “good person” I can see why you would stop going. We’re never going to be able to attain that “good personhood” on Earth.
The only way to even be steady in your attempts to become better is through a devotion to first and foremost, the Holy Triune God, but also seek His grace which is the only way to be justified. This is all Catholic teaching, and not sure if you really understood through your years of practicing what it meant. Unfortunately the catechesis (teaching) of the faith has not been good in the past several decades…
@bashcutter - your statement that goodness is not attainable is NOT in line with Catholic theology. They believe that they can be transformed through grace. Maybe you meant perfection? Catholics definitely believe that people can be good. Your statement sounds more Calvinist tbh
@@jswick679
While the Church doesn’t use the words “total depravity” it is not outside of Catholic Teaching. Man is unable to Free ourselves from sin without God.
St. Aquinas declare that special grace is necessary for many to do any supernaturally good act, to love God and fulfill His commandments, to gain eternal life, to prepare for it, to rise from sin, avoid sin, and persevere.
Yes, I did mean perfect. Any other notion of good is not truly good. Goodness is God. To lower the standard of goodness is just relativistic and not really honest.
"I'm happy." ♥ So happy for you, Link. That's not only enough, that's what most of us only ever strive for. I can't wait to make myself happy someday.
You're an inspiration is what I'm trying to say.
Rhet and Link i just wanted to say thank you for sharing your part of experience in life, to be honest one thing that I have been considering is that I have a negative self that says I'm not good enough as well and my plans wont work, and I needed a cure for that kind of depression, hearing you telling to keep fighting and be better than you are today had me thinking the same way positively, again thanks.
Thank you so much for your vulnerability Link!!!
I’m so proud of your progress!
It’s good to know that there is someone else that is walking through these old patterns, even after leaving the faith.
These updates are so deeply personal to your journeys but I relate heavily to both of you as I'm a bit of a combo. I recognize the impact shame and guilt have had on Link's psyche, yet my post-deconstruction spiritual path has really followed a lot of the same threads that Rhett's has. What I realized in my impulse to explore Eastern philosophies and even witchcraft is that it was all leading me toward acceptance of myself while at the same time pushing me further away from myself. That wound of "not enough" runs deep. And it comes not just from the curriculum of the faith I grew up in, but from the way we spoke to each other, how we were raised, how I was taught to think about myself. So the traps laid for me in my spiritual path now are directly related to that wound. Seeking external confirmation is a reflex for me, it's like my body is doing everything it can to avoid slipping into that shame vortex, but it can't see self acceptance as a handhold. As I get further, my mind still tries to find the same old authoritarian structures to hold onto within the logic of whatever spiritual path I explore. When sitting inside myself from a compassionate understanding that I am enough and that I can only really experience myself through myself, I feel grounded (not oriented, because you were right last week Rhett there really is no consistent orientation). So for me it's not just about looking inward (which feels shameful) it's about looking outward through the comfortability with being inside myself. It requires a great leap of faith that I'm not actually a horrible person 😂
Link is the father figure I wish I had, living through my pain if I was able to have children I’d be very similar in the way he wants to be the best version of himself.
Listening to both your updates have given me so my peace in my own deconstruction. It’s great to hear about other peoples experiences and understandings of the world.
Y’all got me crying on an airplane listening to this I relate so much
I cried at the story of meeting his daughter for Valentine's 🥺 that's so awesome and sweet
It seems like Link is realizing that the love he spent his youth trying to get from God, really needs to come from himself.
"I'm not gonna give you love just 'cause I know that you want me to.
If you want love then the love has gotta come from you."
-From God's Perspective, Bo Burnham
So thankful y'all are doing these... ❤
Link. You've just helped many who suffer from anxiety/depression to feel less lonely because of your honesty, insight and courage to self-disclose. Thank you.
Christians often compare God to a parent who is doing what is best for us. What they never mention is that in this example, God is a parent who can never be proud of His child because in His eyes, that child is eternally drenched with sin that needs to be cleansed. You'll never be good enough to make up for original sin. I'm also a former Christian, for many good reasons and even knowing God exists would not be enough to change my identity.
Shiiiiiiiiiit bud. I've always hated the concept of eternal sin but no one has ever put it in words like that.
@@LordNinja109 To be honest, I hadn't quite thought of it like that until it struck me in the moment. Call it divine inspiration. ;)
I'm listening this week for the first time (to multiple podcasts,) at my daughter's recommendation.
It feels like both are still struggling with justifying themselves... Struggling so hard. I used to be this way, I mostly am not this way now but, in my case, I'm still a believer in the Bible.
I can see that for many of you, in watching the hosts, they seem happy etc. But to me, Link seems deeply sad and struggling, Rhett seems a little angsty, determined to make things work and struggling.
I totally related to the "heaps and heaps of obligation," which Link described, but I don't now. The answer for me wasn't deconstruction. I know some people think it is and believe that's been the answer for them.
It wasn't for me.
But I think I'm glad I listened to this. I'm not sure.
Definitely my impression isn't the same as everyone else. I see a lot of sadness and struggle in their lives. They're still trying to live up to something but I think the bar will keep on moving for them and may always feel unattainable.
I used to relate to that. I don't really now. I'm sad for them, still caught in this struggle.
But I do think I will check in from time to time for updates.
@@jinyeahjiang5474 I think a lot of former Christians struggle with the void left in their life from leaving the belief. It's natural, it occupies a huge space in one's life and it brings a lot of hope. Hope can be hard to replace, especially hope for eternal life.
For me, I've not struggled with this, I just understand why others do. I don't struggle with it for the same reason I don't struggle with the fact I'm not amazingly wealthy or handsome. I accept life has limits and I have to work within mine.
But I'm a very pragmatic person so this approach is easy for me. Others are less pragmatic and emotional conflict makes things harder.
The only thing I can really say here is that at the end of the day, something is true or not regardless of how we feel about that truth or lack thereof. All the sadness in the world won't make an untrue thing true, but we can fool ourselves into believing into untrue things. For some, this is a fair trade. But not for me.
I would change many things about my life if I could, but I am at peace with how things are. I wish I could make that state of mind as easily achievable for others as it has been for me.
The conversation from around 11 minutes in to about 45 minutes is just gold. Thanks guys
Hey Link, fellow Zoloft buddy! Glad to hear that you're taking care of yourself
Love your openness and honesty! I am Christian but I have gone through my own deconstruction and re-entering a different kind of Christianity that’s unique to me without following a system. Still in the process of leaning and figuring out where I want to go but I feel like I will always be on the journey, I’ve been trying to be comfortable believing that’s it’s ok to not fully know.
I'm crying my heart out over Links self growth and his growing happiness too🏆💖
Honestly, this podcast was so great. I just started the generic Zoloft this week actually, and the heart palpitations Link mentioned I’ve had for years and just didn’t know why. 💜 thank you for sharing because I’m on a journey for my anxiety and it’s so relatable.
It's so okay to say" now is not the time" link is a wonderful parent. I wish I had some of his patience and understanding that he does. I became a mom very young and I admire his qualities.
Rhett's "what the f*ck is that about" has me dying hahaha
I was pleasantly surprised to learn that Link started Zoloft for his anxiety. I just started at 25 mg as well, and him saying it has helped is comforting. I relate to Link a lot with his experience with anxiety and also that he was in denial about his anxiety. I too believed (and still kind of believe) that I shouldn’t need medication and that the way I feel all the time is normal. Maybe it isn’t.
50mg Zoloft gang!! Hearing some of the public figures I follow talk about being on Zoloft helped me open up to taking medication. Zoloft has been amazing for me. I thought that’s just how everyone felt… but it’s not haha. Happy to be on it. Thanks for sharing
These episodes are so special, and I hope Link and Rhett know that. These conversations mean so much to so many people.
I tried anxiety medications for almost 2 years, but it doled all of my emotions too much and made me feel slow. I know it works for some people but for me having some anxiety is worth having a full range of emotions.
This was a wonderful discussion. I absolutely loved hearing Link say he's happy. The part about intuition really hit home for me too.
In other news, welcome to Team Medicated, Link! We have snacks.
So glad Rhett and Link have shared their journey away from religion. I went through similar things when I was younger.
Its crazy how this thought came to be in this ep in my life atm. Link talking about flutteryness in his heart and only when still. For a while now and more frequent this week (to a point where Im going to see the doc about it because Ive been legit scared) Ive had flutteryness and now recently a pulling/grabbing in my chest along with mild pain (not a heart attack thankfully but the thought has made the anxiety worse). IDK its just one of those weird life things that you notice more in things folks say when its relatable.
Damn, Link's a great dad 🥲
I totally agree with the people who said that you guys have not a full idea of how helpful it is for many of us to listen to your experiences. Listening to this episode and getting a more closer look at Link's life and experience it was so emotional because for many reasons it hits close to home and I won't lie, I almost cried of happiness to see how much therapy is helping him and I can't wait to hear more and better about it. Thank you for being so honest with us. Really appreciate it.
I both started reading the Bible (also got a study bible but of just the Hebrew bible). I also started therapy in earnest at the beginning of the year and on medication for my officially diagnosed disorder. I'm using my "Bible study" (which is just a poetry reading style analysis) to help me really come to terms with the anger I felt after the diagnosis.
I really appreciate the both of you being so open with us about your process and just being open to the conversation
I’m really hoping to hear more about Link’s medication journey in his update this year. I have been on medication for 5 years this spring. Two years ago, I cut my dose in half from 40mg to 20mg, and 2 months ago, I cut it in half again and went from 20mg to 10mg. I’m finally starting to settle in to the new dose and it’s been really wonderful. I’ve never cared much about being on medication, and I’m not in a rush to get off of it, but I feel like it has helped so much that I have forgotten how I felt beforehand, and I kind of just want to check in with myself and make sure that I’m still on the right path and need the medication in the same way that I used to. If I end up needing it forever, then I need it, but I’ve been feeling very clear and myself lately, and part of me thinks that means the medication has done it’s job and given me my life back.
These videos have been superhelpful and have given me (deconstructed) a much easier way to talk to my parents (very active in their church, but realistic about the shortcomings of American christianity) about my spirituality. It's really nice to be able to listen to just some normal guys putting words to such a similar experience to mine and to be able to send these to people while I still find the words to better tell my own story.
Link and I are Zoloft buddies! 🥰 I relate to him a lot and it's so comforting to hear a man who's older than me talking about the physical symptoms as well as the psychology of anxiety, and being honest about taking medication which is so stigmatised in the US and here in the UK.
Link's relationship with his daughter is so precious. I don't see many people where I am from that have this experience or know many women with this closeness to their father. They are blessed indeed to have the closeness they do.
Thanks for sharing these pls don’t stop!! I related so much to Link’s story and being a perfectionist and having to get everything right! When he mentioned that noticing he was happy and a good person was like a profound realization I really think it is.
If the original Spiritual Deconstruction videos were 2 years ago, that means I've been listening to Ear Biscuits almost weekly for 2 years now, starting with the Lost Years series. All of these episodes are super enlightening, especially the ones about spirituality, and as a "progressive" Catholic, I find a lot of value in hearing other people's experiences with other systems, or just Christianity/religion in general. Keep up the entertaining content and personal growth, you guys. Just listening to you guys helps your audience more than you know.
Ah I just love listening to these! You are both so fun and those feelings of second-guessing yourself after leaving a religion are so relatable. I feel very seen and supported 🌼
I relate to link so much. Thank you for this!
Link, I can identify with the perfectionist tendencies and anxiety. I have OCD and have been on Sertraline for several years now. I think you're a kind and funny person with a big heart and great personality. I struggle with beating myself up too. It's a constant effort to confirm my worth, but it's so worth it. Anxiety and a feeling of not being good enough can be a fight for our personalities, especially growing up in a southern evangelical church. However, know that it's our feelings, not God's judgement that makes us question ourselves. God never expects perfection from us or obligations that we put on ourselves. Like you said, love is most important.
(#106) I love hearing about someone else's spiritual journey. I am Roman catholic, but I have some reservations on going to church. I work every Sunday so I'm to tired to go on Sunday nights. I believe it's ok and that I'm a good person.
I can relate so much to Link here. I had a similar deconstruction where religion and god had been making me more miserable. When you already have a very critical inter voice, being constantly told you're sinful and unworthy and terrible just really pulls you down.
My journey to treating my own mental health began when I decided I was happier without religion and god in my life.