I’m 41 n my mother still did that. We haven’t spoken in 4 years but when we did she used to all the time. She’s throw things at me from when I was a child.
My mother still blames me for "deciding" to move with my father at age 8-9 while she was in rehab. Smh I tell her all the time a child can not make that type of decision. My grandmother wasn't willing to take on her responsibilities and called my stable father up to get me. 🙄
@@michelehemlokhexwhite4310 Good morning beautiful. Happy Saturday. Thank u for that positivity. Yes things are better and I just make it a conscious decision to not continue generational curses on my son whose 7yrs old. Stay wonderful 💚
God did and then parents no offense anyone but who thinks that red hair suits her surprised Milan didnt comment on it earlier on Girl must look more like the dad btw but ya deep case
You can tell Judge Millian really cares about everyone who comes into the court room. And you can tell she's a real person, unlike a lot of T.V. personalities.
Because in her religion the kids are going to hell. Babies go to hell if not baptized, in her religion. It's not my religion so I don't personally believe that but if she is devout in her religion she truly believes that the kids are going to hell.
@@mcrose9067 I would argue that that is not really the root of the actual conflict between the mother and daughter. And if she really believe that (and I’m not saying she doesn’t), you would think she would show some emotion and deep sadness for her grandchildren. None of that is present. This is a “my way is always right” woman. And she would rather be right then be loved and love. I was also raised Catholic. I am currently non-practicing. It’s absurd to think that if a baby or child is not baptized. and they die as a baby or child, that they would not go to heaven. They are innocents.
At first I thought to myself, "I would NEVER sue my own mom", but as I saw how cold hearted this mother was, keeping account of things her daughter did as a teen, and disrespecting her as an adult (over religion??!!!), really??? I know this is cliche, but since the mom is "religious", she really should ask herself, what would Jesus do? Certainly NOT this!! Shame, Shame, Shame on this mother!
I think she only sued bc of the pain she felt from her mother's treatment of her. The mother will never forgive her for sueing her so add that to the list. I hope ppl in her church saw this and someone spoke to her or she would go talk to a priest smh
@@Linda235-z1b I hope that she takes ever money and her kids and leaves her mother alone. This wasn’t the 1st blowup and won’t be the last. No one needs the drama. Take your kids to their paternal grandparents and quit trying to lay a guilt trip on your mother about not seeing the kids. There’s so much venom & hostility in the daughter’s voice, I wouldn’t want her in my quiet life. People like her steal your joy.
I get what you’re saying but she been her mother all her life she knows how her mother is so it’s like the old saying goes when someone show you who they are believe them. Seem like both are using the children as pawns.
You’re right! She probably just wants to be near them to push her ideals on them. It’s definitely a good thing. My heart breaks for the daughter, though. My mom is literally my best friend and I couldn’t imagine going through anything like that.
Wow grandma is manipulative . To see her daughter in so much pain and not immediately go and hug her ugh . I’m going to hug my kids extra hard today . It may be best for her daughter to stay away . Grandma is toxic and I hope her dad realizes it and makes changes before it’s too late .
15:58 this scene with the judge crying has me in tears. I’ve never seen her this emotional. It feels like she knows the pain almost like she has gone through it
That is one cold mother. She just lost her daughter forever. She doesn’t seem to understand her behavior is wrong, and she doesn’t care. My heart breaks for her daughter. The mother mentioned several times about seeing the grandchildren, but not once her daughter. Nobody actually won this case.
No, the daughter won because she’s keeping her kids away from toxicity. It’s a hard but necessary realization. The kids can get healthy love from others.
Every mom isn't a good mom. Alot of people think that regardless of what they do to, you gotta respect your mom, even if they disrespect you. Respect is a two way street, regardless of if you brought me into this world or not.
Yes thank u for sayin that. Respect is earned not given n my mother has never earned my respect. Weve spoken twice in bout 8years. I have her only grandson n she’s seen him once in 8 years n she had a great relationship with my husband so there’s no excuse. Egg donor is what she is. Thank goodness Ive always had my Dad.
I know, right? You could see the tears welling up in her eyes. Wow. I've watched many of these videos and have never seen her so emotional and zeroed in on someone.
My mom disowned me on my birthday last year because I wanted her to apologize for calling me stupid. Narcissists will never accept they’re wrong. And I understand that she’ll never be the mother I deserve because she isn’t capable of it, just as her mother isn’t. She will heal and go on, family doesn’t get a special right to hurt you.
Don’t put all the blame on your mother. What were your words and behaviors that made her call you stupid? It’s easy to be hurt on her words but examine your conscience as well. You may not be the perfect daughter you think you are.
Maybe the most emotional case I've watched, I even saw the audience cry, I shed a tear myself. I know there are people who come to court and try to use tears as a form of sympathy but the plaintiff really did have pain in her, the cry is a painful one
As someone who doesn't speak to their mother due to emotional abuse sometimes you have to move on. It's not always easy and I could feel Judge Milian's emotions and the daughter's but I saw nothing but coldness from the mother. Family is not always blood.
You could tell that even as Judge Milian was telling her she was wrong - and getting upset at the same time - the mother was absolutely not paying any attention at all and you could see from her face that at that same time, she was literally thinking 'I'm right and I don't care what anyone says.'
I'm not surprised that it brought the judge to tears because she's very family oriented....I was tearing up when the plaintiff spoke directly to her mom.... Very heart breaking to see this mother so cold and callous
Judge Milian doesn't usually allow the parties to speak to one another like this, but I think in this case she knew that the mother needed a reality check, she tried to give her one herself but she wouldn't even listen to judge Milian, despite it even visibly upsetting her.
I loved that the judge allowed her to do this and especially for this long. I think because she saw that the daughter was actually genuine and it wasn’t just some weird ‘toxic” relationship from both sides, it was really her mom icing her out for her religious differences.
@@DaviesD85 Right? She brought up such great points about god not wanting a kid to go to hell, not forcing your religion on your grandchildren and how love is more important than always being right. So sad the mom chose to ignore it all
The mother doesn’t respect her daughter. She probably didn’t respect her daughter when her daughter was still a child, and now that her daughter is an adult with children of her own, she still wants to control her, and since she can’t control them, she’d rather not have anything to do with them
I never met my birth grandfather (Fighting over raising my Mom Catholic) because of that very reason. I'm 58 and I still Long to meet him one of these days....
The mother said the "she'd let it go" around 10:48 through 10:53. Everyone seems to think that this is all about religion but I think that their relationship has been bad for years; just the tone that the daughter took in court says that she's the more aggressive personality. The mother was still calm and probably felt fed up with the drama. This 10 minute video doesn't give us a full picture of their relationship. I have relatives like the daughter and I avoid them. Why bring that picture to court , shake it at your mother, take an arrogant tone and stare her down? They may both be stubborn but I believe that the mother is just fed up and willing to live the rest of her life in peace w/o daughter drama. Sometimes you just have to cut your losses.
@@4everThoughtful I would disagree if the daughter was the problem she would never have sent her an Olive branch, people fight we all say mean things but we forgive, the mother is holding onto a grudge, also her tone doesn’t prove much because she easily frustrated and hurt, and she brought that picture to get through to the mom maybe showing her the daughters will help her get over it, the daughter tried all she can but the mother refused. Not sure how you can support someone like that tbh
@@tanagunda1368 It's okay if you don't agree. A 10 minute view into this family's life isn't enough to be certain about anything. Our life experiences guide our belief systems. I've lived long enough to witness many people apologize only to continue with their same behavior. I see what appears to be 2 very opposing personalities. Family or not, you don't have to live where conflict is a constant. I stand by my opinion; you're entitled to yours.
My mother and I don't agree religiously or politically, but she still takes my kids one night a week, we still have AMAZING family functions, we still love each other....it's actually super easy to do!! This is heartbreaking!
Both people have to be willing for that to work. And the defendant won't budge or accept anything other than what she sees as right and if her daughter doesn't agree she wants nothing to do with her
Agree. My mom is still my mother but as grown women she is also my friend and confidant. We don't always agree, but I always feel her love and support.
I don’t think that the mother dislikes her daughter; just personality conflict. It seems that the daughter has a strong personality; mom is meek. When personalities conflict, stress is high and it’s difficult to communicate and/or be in the same room. Let mom get on with her life, keep her stress level low & take care of her husband; daughter can take her kids to her fiancé’s parents. You can’t force a relationship when tensions are high. Daughter is doing what she feels is best for her and her children religiously & mentally; great!! So is her mother. I agree with mother; being out of each other’s life for now is best.
@@thelourensfamily8048 It's okay if we all have different viewpoints. I'm sure they're based on our life experiences. Your life experiences seem different from mine.
To all the people who were outside saying they wouldn't sue their Mother... yeah that's THEIR Mother. Not hers. This is her reality. Her Mother could care less about her.
That "Mom" is wretched. I am speechless. I cannot begin to imagine treating my son like that, for ANY reason. Even after all of that emotion and honesty spoken she still sat there on her pedestal. I feel for her daughter, but I hope she knows how lucky she is to have her babies and a loving family of her own.
The defendant is ridiculous. She had no problem taking her money and expected her to allow her to dictate how to raise her children. She’s a selfish woman, and how insane is it to cut out your grandchildren and daughter because you can’t control the religious beliefs of your grandchildren?!
And if she had her grandkids around Id bet she will just nag them about being baptised or worse and do it behind her daughters back. She can't be trusted.
If the grandmother is Filipina, it is worth considering that the Catholic Church in the Philippines is extremely conservative, and very powerful. This woman may as a result feel trapped by her own uncompromising religious beliefs. The other quite remarkable aspect of this case is that this woman seems to believe that she is no longer under an obligation to repay her lovely daughter's generous loan
@@roymaddocks3184 the mother agreed she owed and was paying up until her husband got sick and she couldn't afford to pay it cause of the copays and hospital bills and being a semi retired women (not because of the baptism). I don't think the daughter is lovely, because she really sued because she is still mad about the baptism, because if your Mother is old and doesn't have any money.....Why sue for 1500..... because you have a grudge.
How in the world could any religion say that a child or a baby would go to hell for not being baptized? Insane. That is sad, and so many people think/feel this way. Also, the mom is CRUEL.
That’s how they were raised and were thought in the catholic religion. I remember when my kid was sick and was told there was nothing they can do for her my mom brought a pastor to pray for her. My kid wasn’t baptized and she believed if she died she wouldn’t go to heaven. I remember feeling angry not only because of her beliefs, but because I didn’t want to think that her time was coming. Point being is the mom doesn’t see or believe she is doing anything wrong and that is the scary sad part 😞
I’m not Catholic but I went to a Catholic university. It’s my understanding that the baptism is considered the first steps that Catholic parents should take if they intend to raise their children in the faith. The religion doesn’t teach that a baby is going to hell just because their parents decide not to have the child baptized.
@lynne I believe its thought that baptized is needed in order to be saved. So if your not being saved because your not baptized then where else would you go? You either go to heaven or hell and if your not going to heaven then the only other option is hell.
Because babies are born with original sin, they need baptism to cleanse them, so that they may become adopted sons and daughters of God and receive the grace of the Holy Spirit. This is what the Catholic religion belives.
Having a controlling narcissistic mother needs to be addressed more in today’s society. The emotional stress it puts on children especially young women is saddening
So sad that the mother has not learned unconditional love for her daughter. Real love never has conditions. The Judge was absolutely right. Being stubborn was more important to her than her daughter or grandchildren. If I could I would give the girl the motherly hug she needs. God bless her.
The defendant’s words are so chilling- “not today, not today.” We are never promised a tomorrow. I just lost my dad in January and, as a daughter watching this, I sure hope the day came for her when she chose to make amends. As parents we should be examples to our children. What if tomorrow never came for her after this and the last choice she made was “no, not today.”? Heartbreaking.
I’m a Christian and even when my kids get older and have their own kids I would never be cold hearted and not see my kids or grandkids if they decide not to baptize their kids. The love I have for my kids is far greater than anything!
When the people in the crowd outside were asked if they would sue their mother’s and they were all like, “Absolutely not. No.” I just was like: It must be nice having grown up with a mom that treated you well. You have no idea what growing up with a narcissistic parent is like. That’s straight up ignorant of people. This mother shows all the signs of being a complete control freak. My mother is exactly the same, which is why I only speak to her about 3 times a year and it ALWAYS has to be me calling her. I feel for the plaintiff. I know what it feels like to WANT to have a family like everyone else seems to have and especially for her children.
I do. My mother went as far as saying she can't stand me. Cut me off many times for years. Each time I went back to her and will always go back to her. I will never have a law suit on my mother. Too many stories to write here. Its about choosing love and setting boundaries. I've learned and I'm learning to love and still have boundaries.
Just because someone won't sue their parents doesn't mean that the parents treated them well. Many prefer to get on with life, they can earn more money and they prefer to release the anger that may go along with the betrayal. Holding on to anger/grudge will do you more harm that the person you hold it against. It's better to form an extended family than try to force others to do what you want them do or expect them to meet your expectation. Releasing anger means freedom for your mental/physical health.
@@4everThoughtful It’s not always about anger and/or holding a grudge. It’s about the fact that some people, even if they gave birth to you, are just people and if they take from you, they need to repay it. Personally, I wouldn’t put myself in a position of needing to sue my mother. I’d HELP her, but never loan her a large amount of money that would effect my life in a negative way.
“That’s straight up ignorant of people?” It’s ignorant of them to say they wouldn’t sue THEIR mother?? Harvey asked about their individual choice. It’s ignorant of you to project your issues on people with healthy parental relationships.
Seeing the judge getting so emotional over this case shows a soft side to her that I havent seen before. I'm so glad to see how this case turned out. It's so sad to see how cruel this mother is b/c I know how traumatic it is to have a mother that doesn't care about you or their grandchildren.
I was as emotional as the daughter and Judge Millian. The mother has not let the issue of the baptism go, she's still using it as a weapon against her daughter. So very sad.
You know, props to her daughter. “ That’s my mother.” She handled this like a champ - sometimes you have to accept people for their flaws and move on from it without taking it personal
Facts. I think she may have taken this step to see if when her mother came to court, if her mother seemed remorseful or if she missed her and the kids. She probably would have let go of the 1500 dollars or still worked with her. This would've been the last straw for me. When they show you, believe them and let go, no matter how hard it hurts.
That’s exactly that, her mom cut off all communication after that text exchange and the only way for her to see her mom again is to sue her and it wasn’t actually about the money, it was about everything else. It must be so hard feeling like your mom just threw you away like that.
This woman is so much like my mother it gives me chills. I admit that I was a difficult child. I admit that we parted with a bitter fight when both of us said awful things to each other. I admit that my behaviour and language was unacceptable and disrespectful. I stayed angry for a year and then started to apologise. She wouldn’t hear me. I was angry and bitter. 3 years after I left home, I decided the be a better person. I went on to live a good life.A loving marriage that has lasted 31 years. A beautiful child. A good career, good friends and financial comfort. I even let my mother back into my life when my child was born. My mum was still angry but she wanted to know her grandchild. I held my tongue and ignored her regular spite against me. I played nice and encouraged a relationship. When my daughter was 5, I witnessed my mother snarl at her until she cried. Mum thought that she was lying about something (though it turned out that she was being truthful). She just stood over her and yelled. There was such an obvious amount of pleasure in Mum’s attitude. I knew that she was enjoying the pain she was causing me when seeing my child in tears. I was careful never to leave my girl alone with her again. I didn’t fight. I didn’t go No contact. I just stepped back a little and monitored their interaction. I watch mum becoming increasingly frustrated with her inability to hurt my child or myself. Eventually, she turned her spite on my husband. He’s a very gentle man who has never been anything but respectful. She finally got a rise out of me one day when I saw him humiliate him. That was. She was never going to stop and her grudge was hurting my child and husband. I wasn’t rude, I just walked away. It hurt. I didn’t just lose my mum. My father prefers a peaceful life and told me she’d make things unpleasant if he had anything to do with me. My sister refused to believe that mum was toxic to me and firmly took a side. I grieved for so many years but now I’m mostly at peace (with an occasional rant to stranger). My point is that regardless of the relationship, regardless of who’s right or wrong, sometimes you’re just better off without your mum in your life. Grieve and move on. Don’t live with hope and disappointment. Accept that you can’t change things and learn to live with it.
Being raised by a narcissistic mom is pure hell, even when she’s a catholic… poor daughter was probably gaslighted throughout her younger years. Let’s pray grandma’s behavior will never rub off on her grand children 🙏🏻
This case broke my heart. My mother passed last year September. I wish my children had more time with her 😔. This case really made me cry like a new born child. I'm literary balling my eyes out. Man she's a wicked person.
Same here! Lost my mom December last year and watching this case broke my heart. I wish she was still here with me and my kids. Life is so precious and so short!
It must be gut wrenching to see such petty behaviour when all you want is another day with your own mum. She said maybe some day but who is to say what will happen between now and the day she decides to get off her high horse. I'm very sorry for your loss
Wow. That "mother" kept receipts to count every single thing she bought for her own grandchildren or daughter for whatever reason, and counted them toward trying to recover their cost? What the hell? She is a cold-hearted woman. No God in ANY religion would accept that. No God in ANY religion would want someone forced into it (the religion). No God in ANY religion would approve of her stubborn, ugly heart toward her daughter.
This case was definitely an emotional one! Not to say the judge was emotional herself. Verry sad situation, I hope mother and daughter are in a better place
If that was my daughter's I would have been crying 😢 😭 🤧 😫 💔 😩 😢 going over to my daughter's hugging and 💋 😗 💏 kissing them and saying mama is so sorry for hurting you like this and mama🥰🥰🥰🥰LoveYou🥰 And I have done this to all of them..
Which tells me she hates her daughter. I’m curious to see where does the brother stand now, it appears he sided with his mom, which means the daughter has been isolated from the whole family, which could correlate to her really difficult 2013 being thrown away like that and after so long, her mother sees pictures of her grandchildren and still doesn’t care, wow.
So many people here have no idea what it's like living with emotional abuse at the hands of your mother. My heart for this lady. She's been kinder to her mother than I was to mine but it's just to painful.
Wow, this episode is so relatable to me. I had a son in 2019 and just about a year and a half into his life I had to cut my father and his mother out of our lives due to their incredible toxicity. They were abusive to me as a child (mentally/verbally emotionally) and I really thought things would change for my son. I was soooo wrong. I feel so much for the daughter and grandchildren in their situation. The people during the break saying that they would never/could never to their parent are so, so lucky to never experience the betrayal and harm and abuse from a parent. The judge handled this BEAUTIFULLY! Not many people can put their prejudices and own views aside and just understand that not all parents are perfect!
When she brought up the plaintiff owing for laundry I just died inside. What a disgusting human being. I wish there was a way for us to keep the people who shouldn’t have kids from having them.
I've never seen Judge Milian's composure waver like that before. This truly was an awful case. That Defendant is not right in the head that she would put her own daughter and granddaughters through this. To try and claim back gifts that every grandparent, aunt or uncle buys their relatives is absolutely vile, all the while admitting she owes her daughter $1,500. I know she's your mother, but she's toxic and you don't need that in your life, nor do your children. I get that she's concerned for the souls of her grandchildren, but that Christian desire to bring family into the fold does not give you the right to treat those people in a vile manner that Christianity itself and God would never condone.
It didn't move me. The daughter appears to have the stronger and more aggressive personality. The mother may be stubborn but she appears meek and may be saving herself from more drama. I can't take dramatic people who always keeps something stirring. It seems that their relationship was bad long before the baptism/loan incident. Our personalities are fixed at birth. It's better to keep a distance and live in harmony; especially as you age and your health begins to decline. Stress is a killer for the young and the old. The daughter shaking the photo, staring at her mother and her arrogant tone did it for me. I think that mom is fed up.
The grandmother is a control freak and tried to emotionally blackmail her daughter. She even brought her son into it. At a time when her daughter needed her the most, she does this. Hopefully, the daughter will be a much better mother to her children than her mother was to her.
If you don't know what it's like to have a cold hearted or damaged mother, consider yourself so blessed and so lucky! Don't tell people "but that's your mother" or "family is family" ... Trust me that Is not always true, blood is not always thicker than water! Sometimes family screws you worse than an enemy would.
The mother didn't have enough respect for her daughter's wishes on raising her kids how she wants. And to hold that against her is PETTY. The mother/grandmother is missing out on so much with her daughter and grandkids. I can't imagine going thru this, it breaks my heart. I was 23yrs old when I had my son, he was almost 2yrs old when my mom passed away in 2001, then I had my daughter in 2002. I'd give anything to have my mother back on this earth to have seen her grandbabies. Then you see cases like this that makes you actually shake your head in disbelief, I hope they were able to patch things up, if not then that is one stubborn mother!!
I am so sorry for all the pain you endured. It breaks my heart. I died once for a couple of minutes. Even with my 12 yr old son in the room, I didn't want to go back. All pain had stopped! Your baby is waiting for you.
I'm so sorry. I hope you've been able to feel your mother's presence during all of the monumental moments you've had with your children. Your mother guided your daughter into the world. I'm sorry she isn't here in a physical form, but she will never leave you. I hope you and your daughters are able to share memories of her and do things in her honor. ❤
Don't agree..I would let it go..but not let it happen again. Then again, if it was my mother, I'd give her the money and wouldn't ask for it back if I was in the place to afford it. She took care of me for 18 years..
@@meekthegreek1623 its clear it happened Multiple times in this case. Dont get me wrong, its not if my mother is a day late on a loan, Iwould file a case. I will work with her to find a better conclusion. If not, I’m taking her and anyone else in my family to court! I’ve seen too many times where a family member take an advantage of them. They speak up and it turns out the same, its family they will make it right and six months later asking for more. Im good!
@@meekthegreek1623 Yeah, if my mother asks for money, and she has; I'll give it to her with the expectation of not getting it back. Cool, but if she asked for money I don't have at the time to spear and she said she will pay me back, then hell yeah I'm holding her to it! Don't get it twisted, my kindness is NOT my weakness!
@@waynedexter Live and let live is the fundamental law that most religions tend to follow (even in christianity it says that you are not supposed to judge others or force your beliefs upon them). I don't like christianity or any other organized religion (due to this kind of people), because it's not made to make people spiritual and better, but rather to make them follow someone elses written beliefs (it's a cult on steroids). Faith is personal, not institutional. And as it goes for most of the cult members, they are not evil, but rather brainwashed with extremely warped perception of reality. I wouldn't call the mother evil. I would call her crazy and deluded for choosing a book over family and belief over love. If god exists and if he judges the people based on fairness, then the lady is going to hell for her actions as she is causing more harm than good (even if unknowingly).
I wholeheartedly agree with you. The defendant is mentally ill, besides being stubborn. I don’t subscribe to any religion but I do consider myself to be spiritual, like the plaintiff TBH I actually put religion in the same category as superstition, or better yet consider it to be IMO Mentally illness is at epidemic proportions in this country and religion, mainly Christianity, is one of the main culprits for this. Hence why religious folks are more susceptible to believing in conspiracy theories. Fear, the tamping of critical thinking, dogma, it’s all a lethal cocktail that would understandably make folks mentally ill I consider most religious folks to be hypocrites. They’re also easily manipulated. Hence why politicians can throw a few of buzz words at them and they’ll start foaming at mouth with enthusiasm and support. Lastly, history is littered with atrocities that have been committed in the name of religion. Atrocities are being committed now even. But yet folks, especially those that live in a supposed free society, still want to subscribe. It kinda boggles the mind or at least my mind anyway
As both a daughter and a mother, this case was absolutely heartwrenching. I couldn't imagine my own mother treating me nor my daughter this way, nor I treating my daughter this way. I'm appalled.
Judge Milian I am a 74 year old man and you have spoken my feelings. I'm a great watcher of your program and this case is exactly why as you have spoken today my thoughts in the recent past.... to the exact words and thought... Thank you for what you do you go Way Beyond being just a judge......!!!
Leilani, if you're reading, I see your pain and I'm so sorry for what you've gone through/going through. Good for you for standing your ground. Your daughters have a wonderful mother who is clearly trying to do what's best for them, standing up for them, trying to keep grandma in their lives, compassionate for being the bigger person. Stay strong, and please know that your mom does love you, she has her own beliefs and issues that are preventing her from loving you the way you and your girls need to be loved. Stay strong ❤️
Mommy ~ Thank You for treating me with love, respect and honor. Not only were you my mother but also my best friend. Ill cherish you always and I miss you everyday 🥀
God bless my mother was a drug addict when I was young. She was emotionally mentally and physically abusive. A lot of dark days and emotional scares. I’m happy to hear about loving mother daughter relationships ❤️❤️❤️
@@Mimi-bs7kn Im so sorry for your hardship. I hope that your mother has found recovery and that you can make peace with your past. If she is still addicted, you can always love her from a distance. Thats a healthy boundry. Best of luck darling ❤️
@@badgurl5758 thank you 🙏🏾 I appreciate that more than you may realize. She’s in recovery and we have a much better relationship but still think about the past you know. SMH but it is better and I’m grateful for that and your kind words. Take care
@@badgurl5758 aw thank you !!! 😊 what a pleasant surprise. Yup things are going well. Thankful for another day. Works ok, kids are doing great so I can’t complain lol. How are you?! Happy Valentine’s Day.
As someone who was raised Catholic, I still find it abhorrent that, if God does exist, he would send an innocent baby to hell just because they weren't baptized. My grandmother spoke once of her miscarriage, and how she performed an emergency baptism when she lost the baby. Part of why I'm no longer involved in the church.
I loved her in the early 2000 now I love her extra. Everyone kept saying " She's your mom. Just forgive her. Just let her win. Just be positive. Just be the bigger person...." They would never understand the pain of being abandoned by your mom and that she chose being right over you. People dont understand toxic moms exist. Thank you Judge for scolding the mom and pointing out her flaw. My heart is bleeding for the daughter because she was going thru what I am going thru rn. Except I could never heal from it.
That evil woman getting mad about her daughter not baptizing her own children! No God accepts your nasty behavior! She has no remorse and should never see those children because I think she would baptize them without her daughter’s knowledge😡😡 Even the Judge understood what the evil defendant still does not.
This message is for new mothers. I know I commented above about letting my mom have her way about baptism, but my mom was much like this lady. Controlling, thinking she can still parent and punish me even when I was 36 years old. I didn't have the guts to cut her out of my life. I wish I had. I was 37 when she died, and I"m 48 now. You'd think I'd feel free but the damage she caused me mentally caused permanent damage. Please, ladies, let your child be who they are. Don't try to change them. You are the one person in your child'slife whose approval they need to develop into a confident adult. If you are controlling, disapporving, and use your love as a weapon by withholding it until your child caves, they will be broken forever. Is that really what you want? If not then please PLEASE, think about your actions when you have a child.
Lord, I'm crying over this case and now over your words. I relate to everything you said except that my mother is still alive. Iv been impaired in so many ways because of her. I'm 34, still struggling and working trough the emotional scars.
@@volb9817 I’m so sorry. I hear you. Every little thing makes me mad. Any criticism from anyone, even the tiniest, sets me off. The guilt is OVERWHELMING. Please do not take anymore abuse from your mom. Get therapy. It’s 100% worth it. Hugs.
@@volb9817 yes to what Aeryn Stormcrow said. Time and therapy; and if you feel it's beneficial to go no contact/low contact, do it for you. Now is your time. You are in control, and you get to choose what's best for you.
My mom has disowned me multiple times over my life choices. I'm so numb to her now that i can't feel happy when i see her. Moving away from her has been the best decision I've ever made.
I am in this video. For anyone doubting if these episodes are real. They sire are. This is my nest friend and her Mother. I was sad to have to accompany her on this trip but it was worthwhile because she got her money back and we cried the whole ride home because Judge Millian is the ONLY person beside me that acknowledged how backward her Mom is with her demands. The girls are how 10 ans 11 and the Grandmother has not had anything to do qith her own Grandchildren. Absolutely shameful but a blessing because she doesn't deserve their love.
Probably not, but even if she did, it wouldn't phase her in the least bit. In her mind, she is right and that is all that matters to her. This was filmed in 2014. Here we are in 2022 and for the first time over the holidays last year in 2021 my friend was invited back in at the holidays to hopefully not have things be so awkward at her sister's wedding getting married and my friend wants family togetherness, but her Mom just can't let things go and keeps sending hateful texts about getting the girls baptized STILL 8 years later! So... my friend chooses to stay away for her mental health. Like Judge Millian says during the proceedings, how do you process when your own Mother doesn't love you anymore. I am not sure if she ever did. She has been used as a pawn by her Mother for various reasons and whenever my friend doesn't comply with her wishes, on comes the emotional blackmail. She could care less and that is what is so heart breaking. Most normal Mother's would lay down their lives for their children and ESPECIALLY the grandchildren. Not this woman... SMH...
@@32000voisine I am so glad you were there for your friend, This episode has stuck with me for so long and it tears my heart everytime I watch it. It is amazing that I am actually chatting with you and you were there, WOW.. I can't believe the mom has not gotten over this stuff, after all of these years. I am still shocked that she is still alive.. You are a good friend..
First let me say thank you for uploading this particular episode as it was within my *TOP 3* favourite cases! Almost from the very beginning of this specific case, I cried and continued to cry until I cried myself to sleep. This was such a heartbreaking case to watch *BUT NOW……..* I wonder how they’re doing and whether or not they were able to patch up their relationship up!?! So to close out my reply to you I’d like to know how they’re doing!!! *IF ANYONE KNOWS HOW THEY’RE DOING NOWADAYS……..PLEASE LET ME KNOW!!!!! I would truly & wholeheartedly appreciate your help/info.!!!!!!!!* 👍🏼💯❤️🙂
Words can be very hurtful and cause many families to separate. I wonder who was with the Plaintiff, her sister or another relative the judge didn't ask or let her speak. The plaintiff is a spoiled grown up.she is doing this to hurt her mother and children. She is so phoney. she could at least let her daughters see their grandparents. No my heart is for the defendant because there is more to this.
Wow. Just like my Mother. My mom is exactly the same as this mother and to me it is dementia and mental illness because no mother should ever have these beliefs or act this way towards their family. They lose their love for family and they allow anger to take over their lives. And then they try to justify it with lies. It's terrible.
This is one thing that people have to respect boundaries and stop pushing religion on people. I understand how the daughter feels I have to tell so called friends and family I'm a atheist stop pushing religion on me, religion is killing us and it's not helping us. and
I really appreciate it because us viewers are invested and we would like to know what is really going on. Some of these people want to keep it surface level and I want to know the details
Wow it's my first time seeing the judge that emotional 🥺👏👏 Let that mum change. I don't really know what would make a mother behave like that but she should change, period!!!
Every time I see this one I come to tears 😞 I don’t know about other cultures/races, but as a Latino I feel that this is very common in the Hispanic culture. Some (not all) Older women that are raised this way are stuck in their ways and are too stubborn to see past themselves.
You're spot on I'm married to an Argentian woman and have ben with her for 54 years and her Catholic faith is very,very important to her, and her 18 grandchildren baptism was incredibly important to her.
This was absolutely heartbreaking. I hope the Mother found it in her heart, to just let it all go, love her daughter, and grandbabies, like a Mother should.
I'm outright crying. This is so heartbreaking. The daughter would benefit by seeking therapy to work through the pain of having a toxic parent. The mother showed no signs of change even after Judge Milian's emotional plea.
Having lost my mom this past February, this broke my heart for the plaintiff. I had times of not talking about religion and politics, to my mom over things, but we got over it. A year or two would have been heartbreaking. I wish that my mom was still here and that I could hear her voice and just see her. Please hug your mom if you still have her. she raised you and just wants the world for you.
Judge, you're one increadilble human being! I have the highest respect for you. You're the whole package. Highly reguared and immensely loved. Thank you.❤❤❤
I've never seen the judge this emotional but she's right
Me neither, it made me tear up 😅
Seeing her like that had me almost in tears!
I She had me tearing up !🥺
i was going to say the same thing, wow
Mann she felt that 😩
You know your mom is petty if she's bringing up stuff from that happened during highschool. Smh
Had NOTHING to do with the case
I’m 41 n my mother still did that. We haven’t spoken in 4 years but when we did she used to all the time. She’s throw things at me from when I was a child.
My mother still blames me for "deciding" to move with my father at age 8-9 while she was in rehab. Smh I tell her all the time a child can not make that type of decision. My grandmother wasn't willing to take on her responsibilities and called my stable father up to get me. 🙄
@@mzfancy4767 I'm so sorry. Hope everything ended up ok for you. All the best ❤
@@michelehemlokhexwhite4310 Good morning beautiful. Happy Saturday. Thank u for that positivity. Yes things are better and I just make it a conscious decision to not continue generational curses on my son whose 7yrs old. Stay wonderful 💚
ugh this mom is one of the WORST types of parents. ones that brings you into the world and make it a point to remind you of it every single day.
My mom wasnt my biological mom but she reminded me plenty that she saved my life by adopting me
She made that choice. Kid didn’t ask to be hers
Rule of Thumb: Never lend more money than you can afford to give as a gift...especially if it is toa family member or a close, good friend.
God did and then parents no offense anyone but who thinks that red hair suits her surprised Milan didnt comment on it earlier on
Girl must look more like the dad btw but ya deep case
@@judeshill9317 OMG…people like you actually exist…
Her pride is stronger than her love for her daughter. I hope things get better.
That woman is pushing 80. If she hasn’t changed now, there’s zero hope for her. Narcissist can’t ever, WON’T ever change.
It's going to get worse because she dragged her brother into this. Do you think the brother will be happy with her for it?
This defendant spends plenty of $$$ at salons with this wild hair color & her nails.
You can tell Judge Millian really cares about everyone who comes into the court room. And you can tell she's a real person, unlike a lot of T.V. personalities.
Yes
Agreed ; I absolutely love her and wish I would’ve started watching her sooner, now I’m stuck in old reruns. It would be great to see her today.
The irony is that the grandmother thinks that the kids are the ones at risk of going to hell.
That part.
Right
Because in her religion the kids are going to hell. Babies go to hell if not baptized, in her religion. It's not my religion so I don't personally believe that but if she is devout in her religion she truly believes that the kids are going to hell.
According to catholic doctrine, the grandmother is correct. That's why I, having been raised catholic, left the religion
@@mcrose9067 I would argue that that is not really the root of the actual conflict between the mother and daughter.
And if she really believe that (and I’m not saying she doesn’t), you would think she would show some emotion and deep sadness for her grandchildren. None of that is present. This is a “my way is always right” woman. And she would rather be right then be loved and love.
I was also raised Catholic. I am currently non-practicing. It’s absurd to think that if a baby or child is not baptized. and they die as a baby or child, that they would not go to heaven. They are innocents.
At first I thought to myself, "I would NEVER sue my own mom", but as I saw how cold hearted this mother was, keeping account of things her daughter did as a teen, and disrespecting her as an adult (over religion??!!!), really??? I know this is cliche, but since the mom is "religious", she really should ask herself, what would Jesus do? Certainly NOT this!! Shame, Shame, Shame on this mother!
I think she only sued bc of the pain she felt from her mother's treatment of her. The mother will never forgive her for sueing her so add that to the list. I hope ppl in her church saw this and someone spoke to her or she would go talk to a priest smh
I thought the same thing, but no matter what I would never not sue my Mother. Moving on is the best way in my opinion that is 😉
@@Linda235-z1b I hope that she takes ever money and her kids and leaves her mother alone. This wasn’t the 1st blowup and won’t be the last. No one needs the drama. Take your kids to their paternal grandparents and quit trying to lay a guilt trip on your mother about not seeing the kids. There’s so much venom & hostility in the daughter’s voice, I wouldn’t want her in my quiet life. People like her steal your joy.
I get what you’re saying but she been her mother all her life she knows how her mother is so it’s like the old saying goes when someone show you who they are believe them. Seem like both are using the children as pawns.
I Corinthians 6 says we are not to sue
It's a blessing for the grandkids to be away from the toxic grandma. The daughter should take it as a victory.
You’re right! She probably just wants to be near them to push her ideals on them. It’s definitely a good thing. My heart breaks for the daughter, though. My mom is literally my best friend and I couldn’t imagine going through anything like that.
Yes,she's the kind of Grandmother who would try to poison her grandchildren against their Mother.
Agreed
Wow grandma is manipulative . To see her daughter in so much pain and not immediately go and hug her ugh . I’m going to hug my kids extra hard today . It may be best for her daughter to stay away . Grandma is toxic and I hope her dad realizes it and makes changes before it’s too late .
Exactly....she is a old stubborn woman.
This was intense! Even the judge got emotional. I’m glad justice was served.
15:58 this scene with the judge crying has me in tears. I’ve never seen her this emotional. It feels like she knows the pain almost like she has gone through it
Maybe she did. And that’s why her decision cannot be regarded as impartial.
That is one cold mother. She just lost her daughter forever. She doesn’t seem to understand her behavior is wrong, and she doesn’t care. My heart breaks for her daughter.
The mother mentioned several times about seeing the grandchildren, but not once her daughter.
Nobody actually won this case.
She didn’t care. Not one tear was dropped
@@quiucolladocarva Nope. Not one tear was even considered! Very sad.
Some mother's are just shitty and cold she said she wanted money back toor laundry my God what kind of god is she praying to !!!
Did anybody tell about hell???👺
No, the daughter won because she’s keeping her kids away from toxicity. It’s a hard but necessary realization. The kids can get healthy love from others.
Every mom isn't a good mom. Alot of people think that regardless of what they do to, you gotta respect your mom, even if they disrespect you. Respect is a two way street, regardless of if you brought me into this world or not.
Yes thank u for sayin that. Respect is earned not given n my mother has never earned my respect. Weve spoken twice in bout 8years. I have her only grandson n she’s seen him once in 8 years n she had a great relationship with my husband so there’s no excuse. Egg donor is what she is. Thank goodness Ive always had my Dad.
This!!!! I agree 100%!!!
You are so right.
Whew! This the one!
MY POINT EXACTLY!!!!
I never seen the judge so emotional. This is a very heart breaking case that even made me tear up.
I know, right? You could see the tears welling up in her eyes. Wow. I've watched many of these videos and have never seen her so emotional and zeroed in on someone.
My heart hurts for her, I know what it feels like when ur mother hates u
I’m nearly crying, too. How sickening to have a mother like that!!!
Laloni I'm sorry about that 🧡🥺 hugs to you. You are beautiful
My mom disowned me on my birthday last year because I wanted her to apologize for calling me stupid. Narcissists will never accept they’re wrong. And I understand that she’ll never be the mother I deserve because she isn’t capable of it, just as her mother isn’t. She will heal and go on, family doesn’t get a special right to hurt you.
Very true.
Unfortunately, this is true... heal and move on😢
But what if you were stupid or made a stupid decision? Did you also always apologize to your mother when you hurt her?
Don’t put all the blame on your mother. What were your words and behaviors that made her call you stupid? It’s easy to be hurt on her words but examine your conscience as well. You may not be the perfect daughter you think you are.
Maybe the most emotional case I've watched, I even saw the audience cry, I shed a tear myself. I know there are people who come to court and try to use tears as a form of sympathy but the plaintiff really did have pain in her, the cry is a painful one
As someone who doesn't speak to their mother due to emotional abuse sometimes you have to move on. It's not always easy and I could feel Judge Milian's emotions and the daughter's but I saw nothing but coldness from the mother. Family is not always blood.
You could tell that even as Judge Milian was telling her she was wrong - and getting upset at the same time - the mother was absolutely not paying any attention at all and you could see from her face that at that same time, she was literally thinking 'I'm right and I don't care what anyone says.'
sometimes (for your own sake & sanity), you have to love family from afar.
@@looknbakatu THIS
@@eloahnon4952, i heard this from Judge Karen. she said " sometimes you have to love family from afar", SO TRUE! sadly.
Same here. When the mother is narcissistic there’s literally nothing you can do.
I'm not surprised that it brought the judge to tears because she's very family oriented....I was tearing up when the plaintiff spoke directly to her mom.... Very heart breaking to see this mother so cold and callous
Judge Milian doesn't usually allow the parties to speak to one another like this, but I think in this case she knew that the mother needed a reality check, she tried to give her one herself but she wouldn't even listen to judge Milian, despite it even visibly upsetting her.
I loved that the judge allowed her to do this and especially for this long. I think because she saw that the daughter was actually genuine and it wasn’t just some weird ‘toxic” relationship from both sides, it was really her mom icing her out for her religious differences.
@@DaviesD85 Right? She brought up such great points about god not wanting a kid to go to hell, not forcing your religion on your grandchildren and how love is more important than always being right. So sad the mom chose to ignore it all
Narcissistic abuse at its finest. Stay strong sister
I love this judge, she is real, compassionate, caring, she tried her hardest, so much respect ✊🏽
That one girl says “ forgive and forget” and it’s literally disgusting. Yeah just forgive and forget emotional abuse 🙄
plsss emotional abuse is not a thing it’s just being an asshole 😭
@@024yara it absolutely is, what the fuck are you talking about
@@024yaraemotional abuse isn’t a thing??? girl what
@@likegoddess after doing my research, i take back what i said emotional abuse is a thing 👍
The mother doesn’t respect her daughter. She probably didn’t respect her daughter when her daughter was still a child, and now that her daughter is an adult with children of her own, she still wants to control her, and since she can’t control them, she’d rather not have anything to do with them
i think You hit the nail on the head!
@@looknbakatu yup 👍
That mother is Satan in the flesh. I can't imagine all the other things she put her daughter through that we didn't hear.
no respect for the daughter, no acceptance of the daughter, and no understanding that she is responsible for paying her debts
Yes. Interesting. If she no longer has the power of control over them, she's not interested in continuing the relationship.
It all stems from her not wanting to raise them Catholic she’s so stubborn she won’t let it go that’s her daughters choice not hers.
I never met my birth grandfather (Fighting over raising my Mom Catholic) because of that very reason. I'm 58 and I still Long to meet him one of these days....
I bet she would forgive a child raping "catholic" priest before accepting her daughter back. She's absolutely disgusting 😒
The mother said the "she'd let it go" around 10:48 through 10:53. Everyone seems to think that this is all about religion but I think that their relationship has been bad for years; just the tone that the daughter took in court says that she's the more aggressive personality. The mother was still calm and probably felt fed up with the drama. This 10 minute video doesn't give us a full picture of their relationship. I have relatives like the daughter and I avoid them. Why bring that picture to court , shake it at your mother, take an arrogant tone and stare her down? They may both be stubborn but I believe that the mother is just fed up and willing to live the rest of her life in peace w/o daughter drama. Sometimes you just have to cut your losses.
@@4everThoughtful I would disagree if the daughter was the problem she would never have sent her an Olive branch, people fight we all say mean things but we forgive, the mother is holding onto a grudge, also her tone doesn’t prove much because she easily frustrated and hurt, and she brought that picture to get through to the mom maybe showing her the daughters will help her get over it, the daughter tried all she can but the mother refused. Not sure how you can support someone like that tbh
@@tanagunda1368 It's okay if you don't agree. A 10 minute view into this family's life isn't enough to be certain about anything. Our life experiences guide our belief systems. I've lived long enough to witness many people apologize only to continue with their same behavior. I see what appears to be 2 very opposing personalities. Family or not, you don't have to live where conflict is a constant. I stand by my opinion; you're entitled to yours.
My mother and I don't agree religiously or politically, but she still takes my kids one night a week, we still have AMAZING family functions, we still love each other....it's actually super easy to do!!
This is heartbreaking!
Both people have to be willing for that to work. And the defendant won't budge or accept anything other than what she sees as right and if her daughter doesn't agree she wants nothing to do with her
Agree. My mom is still my mother but as grown women she is also my friend and confidant. We don't always agree, but I always feel her love and support.
I don’t think that the mother dislikes her daughter; just personality conflict. It seems that the daughter has a strong personality; mom is meek. When personalities conflict, stress is high and it’s difficult to communicate and/or be in the same room. Let mom get on with her life, keep her stress level low & take care of her husband; daughter can take her kids to her fiancé’s parents. You can’t force a relationship when tensions are high. Daughter is doing what she feels is best for her and her children religiously & mentally; great!! So is her mother. I agree with mother; being out of each other’s life for now is best.
@@4everThoughtful This mother does not seem meek to me. Covert - maybe. Manipulative - maybe.
@@thelourensfamily8048 It's okay if we all have different viewpoints. I'm sure they're based on our life experiences. Your life experiences seem different from mine.
Glad she sued her mom. That "mom" is an awful, dogmatic, horrible person.
To all the people who were outside saying they wouldn't sue their Mother... yeah that's THEIR Mother. Not hers. This is her reality. Her Mother could care less about her.
That "Mom" is wretched. I am speechless. I cannot begin to imagine treating my son like that, for ANY reason. Even after all of that emotion and honesty spoken she still sat there on her pedestal. I feel for her daughter, but I hope she knows how lucky she is to have her babies and a loving family of her own.
Most religious people are, unfortunately.
The defendant is ridiculous. She had no problem taking her money and expected her to allow her to dictate how to raise her children. She’s a selfish woman, and how insane is it to cut out your grandchildren and daughter because you can’t control the religious beliefs of your grandchildren?!
And if she had her grandkids around Id bet she will just nag them about being baptised or worse and do it behind her daughters back. She can't be trusted.
@@LisetteOlds truer words have never been spoken. Smh
If the grandmother is Filipina, it is worth considering that the Catholic Church in the Philippines is extremely conservative, and very powerful. This woman may as a result feel trapped by her own uncompromising religious beliefs. The other quite remarkable aspect of this case is that this woman seems to believe that she is no longer under an obligation to repay her lovely daughter's generous loan
@@roymaddocks3184 the mother agreed she owed and was paying up until her husband got sick and she couldn't afford to pay it cause of the copays and hospital bills and being a semi retired women (not because of the baptism). I don't think the daughter is lovely, because she really sued because she is still mad about the baptism, because if your Mother is old and doesn't have any money.....Why sue for 1500..... because you have a grudge.
@@naynayjones9166 NEVER WOULD I SUE MY MOM OR ANY FAMILY, FOR MONEY.
How in the world could any religion say that a child or a baby would go to hell for not being baptized? Insane. That is sad, and so many people think/feel this way. Also, the mom is CRUEL.
Very true, they haven't reached âgé of accountability.
That’s how they were raised and were thought in the catholic religion. I remember when my kid was sick and was told there was nothing they can do for her my mom brought a pastor to pray for her. My kid wasn’t baptized and she believed if she died she wouldn’t go to heaven. I remember feeling angry not only because of her beliefs, but because I didn’t want to think that her time was coming. Point being is the mom doesn’t see or believe she is doing anything wrong and that is the scary sad part 😞
I’m not Catholic but I went to a Catholic university. It’s my understanding that the baptism is considered the first steps that Catholic parents should take if they intend to raise their children in the faith. The religion doesn’t teach that a baby is going to hell just because their parents decide not to have the child baptized.
@lynne I believe its thought that baptized is needed in order to be saved. So if your not being saved because your not baptized then where else would you go? You either go to heaven or hell and if your not going to heaven then the only other option is hell.
Because babies are born with original sin, they need baptism to cleanse them, so that they may become adopted sons and daughters of God and receive the grace of the Holy Spirit. This is what the Catholic religion belives.
Having a controlling narcissistic mother needs to be addressed more in today’s society. The emotional stress it puts on children especially young women is saddening
So sad that the mother has not learned unconditional love for her daughter. Real love never has conditions. The Judge was absolutely right. Being stubborn was more important to her than her daughter or grandchildren. If I could I would give the girl the motherly hug she needs. God bless her.
The defendant’s words are so chilling- “not today, not today.” We are never promised a tomorrow. I just lost my dad in January and, as a daughter watching this, I sure hope the day came for her when she chose to make amends. As parents we should be examples to our children. What if tomorrow never came for her after this and the last choice she made was “no, not today.”? Heartbreaking.
Sorry for the loss of your dad. I was a daddy's girl. I grieved 10 years.
I lost my dad in November and I feel the same. My mom and I have had to forgive each other and move on because life is too short.
Eloquently said.
True words
Doesn't matter to her...that she might not have a tomorrow... she's a cold, dominating so-called mother.
I’m a Christian and even when my kids get older and have their own kids I would never be cold hearted and not see my kids or grandkids if they decide not to baptize their kids. The love I have for my kids is far greater than anything!
It's apparent, the mom is Satan in the flesh.
The way her mother is acting is just so un-Christian like. I don't understand how she cut off her own daughter in the name of God.
Its just water
Baptism has nothing to do with salvation.
That’s you but not everyone is the same.
When the people in the crowd outside were asked if they would sue their mother’s and they were all like, “Absolutely not. No.” I just was like: It must be nice having grown up with a mom that treated you well. You have no idea what growing up with a narcissistic parent is like. That’s straight up ignorant of people. This mother shows all the signs of being a complete control freak. My mother is exactly the same, which is why I only speak to her about 3 times a year and it ALWAYS has to be me calling her. I feel for the plaintiff. I know what it feels like to WANT to have a family like everyone else seems to have and especially for her children.
I do. My mother went as far as saying she can't stand me. Cut me off many times for years. Each time I went back to her and will always go back to her. I will never have a law suit on my mother. Too many stories to write here. Its about choosing love and setting boundaries. I've learned and I'm learning to love and still have boundaries.
Just because someone won't sue their parents doesn't mean that the parents treated them well. Many prefer to get on with life, they can earn more money and they prefer to release the anger that may go along with the betrayal. Holding on to anger/grudge will do you more harm that the person you hold it against. It's better to form an extended family than try to force others to do what you want them do or expect them to meet your expectation. Releasing anger means freedom for your mental/physical health.
@@4everThoughtful It’s not always about anger and/or holding a grudge. It’s about the fact that some people, even if they gave birth to you, are just people and if they take from you, they need to repay it. Personally, I wouldn’t put myself in a position of needing to sue my mother. I’d HELP her, but never loan her a large amount of money that would effect my life in a negative way.
“That’s straight up ignorant of people?”
It’s ignorant of them to say they wouldn’t sue THEIR mother?? Harvey asked about their individual choice. It’s ignorant of you to project your issues on people with healthy parental relationships.
@@syw9882 well said.
Seeing the judge getting so emotional over this case shows a soft side to her that I havent seen before. I'm so glad to see how this case turned out. It's so sad to see how cruel this mother is b/c I know how traumatic it is to have a mother that doesn't care about you or their grandchildren.
I love Judge Malian. She is so right. Truly emotional
I was as emotional as the daughter and Judge Millian. The mother has not let the issue of the baptism go, she's still using it as a weapon against her daughter. So very sad.
And if she allowed them to be baptized what would the next demand be?
Actually, they won't go to hell. There's something called the age of accountability
You know, props to her daughter.
“ That’s my mother.”
She handled this like a champ - sometimes you have to accept people for their flaws and move on from it without taking it personal
Facts. I think she may have taken this step to see if when her mother came to court, if her mother seemed remorseful or if she missed her and the kids. She probably would have let go of the 1500 dollars or still worked with her. This would've been the last straw for me. When they show you, believe them and let go, no matter how hard it hurts.
I don’t think she bring her mom to court for the money, I think it’s to give her the picture of the girls and actually see her mom
It’s almost ten years later hopefully they made up by now
@@Nevaeh1 Sadly I doubt it. The next time the grandchildren will see their grandmother will be at her funeral......SO SAD
That's what you perceive
@@juanitaschumacher6569 yeah that’s why she said “I think”
That’s exactly that, her mom cut off all communication after that text exchange and the only way for her to see her mom again is to sue her and it wasn’t actually about the money, it was about everything else. It must be so hard feeling like your mom just threw you away like that.
This woman is so much like my mother it gives me chills. I admit that I was a difficult child. I admit that we parted with a bitter fight when both of us said awful things to each other. I admit that my behaviour and language was unacceptable and disrespectful. I stayed angry for a year and then started to apologise. She wouldn’t hear me. I was angry and bitter.
3 years after I left home, I decided the be a better person. I went on to live a good life.A loving marriage that has lasted 31 years. A beautiful child. A good career, good friends and financial comfort.
I even let my mother back into my life when my child was born. My mum was still angry but she wanted to know her grandchild. I held my tongue and ignored her regular spite against me. I played nice and encouraged a relationship.
When my daughter was 5, I witnessed my mother snarl at her until she cried. Mum thought that she was lying about something (though it turned out that she was being truthful). She just stood over her and yelled. There was such an obvious amount of pleasure in Mum’s attitude. I knew that she was enjoying the pain she was causing me when seeing my child in tears. I was careful never to leave my girl alone with her again. I didn’t fight. I didn’t go No contact. I just stepped back a little and monitored their interaction.
I watch mum becoming increasingly frustrated with her inability to hurt my child or myself. Eventually, she turned her spite on my husband. He’s a very gentle man who has never been anything but respectful. She finally got a rise out of me one day when I saw him humiliate him. That was. She was never going to stop and her grudge was hurting my child and husband.
I wasn’t rude, I just walked away.
It hurt. I didn’t just lose my mum. My father prefers a peaceful life and told me she’d make things unpleasant if he had anything to do with me. My sister refused to believe that mum was toxic to me and firmly took a side.
I grieved for so many years but now I’m mostly at peace (with an occasional rant to stranger).
My point is that regardless of the relationship, regardless of who’s right or wrong, sometimes you’re just better off without your mum in your life. Grieve and move on. Don’t live with hope and disappointment. Accept that you can’t change things and learn to live with it.
I'm so sorry to hear your experience. You have been wise and strong, and it does indeed sound painful.
Sending you a hug 🤗
@@CreamIceMs that's so sweet. Thank you 🤗
She just wants to be in control. Look at her husband carrying her pocketbook 😂
Being raised by a narcissistic mom is pure hell, even when she’s a catholic… poor daughter was probably gaslighted throughout her younger years. Let’s pray grandma’s behavior will never rub off on her grand children 🙏🏻
ESPECIALLY if she’s religious.
This case broke my heart. My mother passed last year September. I wish my children had more time with her 😔. This case really made me cry like a new born child. I'm literary balling my eyes out. Man she's a wicked person.
Same here! Lost my mom December last year and watching this case broke my heart. I wish she was still here with me and my kids. Life is so precious and so short!
It must be gut wrenching to see such petty behaviour when all you want is another day with your own mum. She said maybe some day but who is to say what will happen between now and the day she decides to get off her high horse. I'm very sorry for your loss
Wow. That "mother" kept receipts to count every single thing she bought for her own grandchildren or daughter for whatever reason, and counted them toward trying to recover their cost? What the hell?
She is a cold-hearted woman.
No God in ANY religion would accept that.
No God in ANY religion would want someone forced into it (the religion).
No God in ANY religion would approve of her stubborn, ugly heart toward her daughter.
Wow, what a case. The judge was in rare form. Glad I got to see this one.
This case was definitely an emotional one! Not to say the judge was emotional herself. Verry sad situation, I hope mother and daughter are in a better place
Her pleading to her mom what that photo almost made me cry. You can tell her mom really is hurting her.
So incredibly heartbreaking. Can’t believe her mother didn’t choose to bury the hatchet at the end of the show.
If that was my daughter's I would have been crying 😢 😭 🤧 😫 💔 😩 😢 going over to my daughter's hugging and 💋 😗 💏 kissing them and saying mama is so sorry for hurting you like this and mama🥰🥰🥰🥰LoveYou🥰 And I have done this to all of them..
Which tells me she hates her daughter. I’m curious to see where does the brother stand now, it appears he sided with his mom, which means the daughter has been isolated from the whole family, which could correlate to her really difficult 2013 being thrown away like that and after so long, her mother sees pictures of her grandchildren and still doesn’t care, wow.
So many people here have no idea what it's like living with emotional abuse at the hands of your mother.
My heart for this lady. She's been kinder to her mother than I was to mine but it's just to painful.
Many people don't understand. They're lucky enough to have not gone through it, but privileged enough to not try and understand.
True. No one understands having a toxic parent. She wanted to charge doing laundry. Toxic. Evil. Lose this toxic parent.
This case made me appreciate my Mother even more then I already do. I thank God I wasn't given a Mother like this lady. I LOVE YOU MOMMA!!!
Wow, this episode is so relatable to me. I had a son in 2019 and just about a year and a half into his life I had to cut my father and his mother out of our lives due to their incredible toxicity. They were abusive to me as a child (mentally/verbally emotionally) and I really thought things would change for my son. I was soooo wrong. I feel so much for the daughter and grandchildren in their situation.
The people during the break saying that they would never/could never to their parent are so, so lucky to never experience the betrayal and harm and abuse from a parent.
The judge handled this BEAUTIFULLY! Not many people can put their prejudices and own views aside and just understand that not all parents are perfect!
When she brought up the plaintiff owing for laundry I just died inside. What a disgusting human being. I wish there was a way for us to keep the people who shouldn’t have kids from having them.
I've never seen Judge Milian's composure waver like that before. This truly was an awful case. That Defendant is not right in the head that she would put her own daughter and granddaughters through this. To try and claim back gifts that every grandparent, aunt or uncle buys their relatives is absolutely vile, all the while admitting she owes her daughter $1,500. I know she's your mother, but she's toxic and you don't need that in your life, nor do your children. I get that she's concerned for the souls of her grandchildren, but that Christian desire to bring family into the fold does not give you the right to treat those people in a vile manner that Christianity itself and God would never condone.
Catholic is not Christian
@@juanitaschumacher6569 wrong.
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christianity
Go to the section about 'denominations' or read the article in full.
The Mother isn't worried about their souls, she wants control.
The mother and daughter are both wrong. You all try to be so politically correct. Just admit theyre both at fault
The yearning and heartbreak on the daughter’s face at 17:38 made me tear up. How can a mother be so cold… over what????!!!!
It didn't move me. The daughter appears to have the stronger and more aggressive personality. The mother may be stubborn but she appears meek and may be saving herself from more drama. I can't take dramatic people who always keeps something stirring. It seems that their relationship was bad long before the baptism/loan incident. Our personalities are fixed at birth. It's better to keep a distance and live in harmony; especially as you age and your health begins to decline. Stress is a killer for the young and the old. The daughter shaking the photo, staring at her mother and her arrogant tone did it for me. I think that mom is fed up.
@@4everThoughtful troll?
@@CrazyLadybug An opinion different from yours automatically makes the other a troll?
@@CrazyLadybug I'd say that's a definite yes! This troll is spouting the exact same argument on many of these comments. No imagination. 😊
@@cousinsister69 yeah I guess the person is triggered
The grandmother is a control freak and tried to emotionally blackmail her daughter. She even brought her son into it. At a time when her daughter needed her the most, she does this. Hopefully, the daughter will be a much better mother to her children than her mother was to her.
I've never seen the Judge reduced to tears like that. She felt so much passion and empathy for the Plantiff.
If you don't know what it's like to have a cold hearted or damaged mother, consider yourself so blessed and so lucky! Don't tell people "but that's your mother" or "family is family" ... Trust me that Is not always true, blood is not always thicker than water! Sometimes family screws you worse than an enemy would.
Amen!
The mother didn't have enough respect for her daughter's wishes on raising her kids how she wants. And to hold that against her is PETTY. The mother/grandmother is missing out on so much with her daughter and grandkids. I can't imagine going thru this, it breaks my heart. I was 23yrs old when I had my son, he was almost 2yrs old when my mom passed away in 2001, then I had my daughter in 2002. I'd give anything to have my mother back on this earth to have seen her grandbabies. Then you see cases like this that makes you actually shake your head in disbelief, I hope they were able to patch things up, if not then that is one stubborn mother!!
I am so sorry for all the pain you endured. It breaks my heart.
I died once for a couple of minutes. Even with my 12 yr old son in the room, I didn't want to go back. All pain had stopped! Your baby is waiting for you.
I'm so sorry. I hope you've been able to feel your mother's presence during all of the monumental moments you've had with your children. Your mother guided your daughter into the world. I'm sorry she isn't here in a physical form, but she will never leave you. I hope you and your daughters are able to share memories of her and do things in her honor. ❤
I would sue my mother with the quickness. She taught me not to let anyone take advantage of me! Including her!
Yup 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
Exactly 💯💯💯
Don't agree..I would let it go..but not let it happen again. Then again, if it was my mother, I'd give her the money and wouldn't ask for it back if I was in the place to afford it. She took care of me for 18 years..
@@meekthegreek1623 its clear it happened Multiple times in this case.
Dont get me wrong, its not if my mother is a day late on a loan, Iwould file a case. I will work with her to find a better conclusion. If not, I’m taking her and anyone else in my family to court! I’ve seen too many times where a family member take an advantage of them. They speak up and it turns out the same, its family they will make it right and six months later asking for more. Im good!
@@meekthegreek1623 Yeah, if my mother asks for money, and she has; I'll give it to her with the expectation of not getting it back. Cool, but if she asked for money I don't have at the time to spear and she said she will pay me back, then hell yeah I'm holding her to it!
Don't get it twisted, my kindness is NOT my weakness!
I love the judge seeing her get emotional makes me sad, but love her all the more. She is a great person.
Videos like this remind me that I had the best mother in the world.
Disgusting!!! Dad needs to PUT HIS FOOT DOWN AND STAND UP TO HIS WIFE AND END THIS ISH!!! Ridiculous.....
That woman is evil. Bless that daughter and her family.
If the defendant is evil then I guess you would agree that most religious folks are
@@waynedexter Live and let live is the fundamental law that most religions tend to follow (even in christianity it says that you are not supposed to judge others or force your beliefs upon them). I don't like christianity or any other organized religion (due to this kind of people), because it's not made to make people spiritual and better, but rather to make them follow someone elses written beliefs (it's a cult on steroids). Faith is personal, not institutional. And as it goes for most of the cult members, they are not evil, but rather brainwashed with extremely warped perception of reality.
I wouldn't call the mother evil. I would call her crazy and deluded for choosing a book over family and belief over love.
If god exists and if he judges the people based on fairness, then the lady is going to hell for her actions as she is causing more harm than good (even if unknowingly).
I wholeheartedly agree with you. The defendant is mentally ill, besides being stubborn.
I don’t subscribe to any religion but I do consider myself to be spiritual, like the plaintiff
TBH I actually put religion in the same category as superstition, or better yet consider it to be
IMO Mentally illness is at epidemic proportions in this country and religion, mainly Christianity, is one of the main culprits for this. Hence why religious folks are more susceptible to believing in conspiracy theories. Fear, the tamping of critical thinking, dogma, it’s all a lethal cocktail that would understandably make folks mentally ill
I consider most religious folks to be hypocrites. They’re also easily manipulated. Hence why politicians can throw a few of buzz words at them and they’ll start foaming at mouth with enthusiasm and support.
Lastly, history is littered with atrocities that have been committed in the name of religion. Atrocities are being committed now even. But yet folks, especially those that live in a supposed free society, still want to subscribe. It kinda boggles the mind or at least my mind anyway
As both a daughter and a mother, this case was absolutely heartwrenching. I couldn't imagine my own mother treating me nor my daughter this way, nor I treating my daughter this way. I'm appalled.
Judge Milian I am a 74 year old man and you have spoken my feelings. I'm a great watcher of your program and this case is exactly why as you have spoken today my thoughts in the recent past.... to the exact words and thought...
Thank you for what you do you go Way Beyond being just a judge......!!!
Leilani, if you're reading, I see your pain and I'm so sorry for what you've gone through/going through. Good for you for standing your ground. Your daughters have a wonderful mother who is clearly trying to do what's best for them, standing up for them, trying to keep grandma in their lives, compassionate for being the bigger person. Stay strong, and please know that your mom does love you, she has her own beliefs and issues that are preventing her from loving you the way you and your girls need to be loved.
Stay strong ❤️
Judge Milian is SOOOOOOOOOOOO AWESOMMMMMMMMME GOD BLESS YOU 🙏🏾 and your family
She still thinks she is right and has the right to treat her daughter like that. What an awful person. Hope the daughter moves on from this ♥
Mommy ~ Thank You for treating me with love, respect and honor. Not only were you my mother but also my best friend. Ill cherish you always and I miss you everyday 🥀
God bless my mother was a drug addict when I was young. She was emotionally mentally and physically abusive. A lot of dark days and emotional scares. I’m happy to hear about loving mother daughter relationships ❤️❤️❤️
@@Mimi-bs7kn Im so sorry for your hardship. I hope that your mother has found recovery and that you can make peace with your past. If she is still addicted, you can always love her from a distance. Thats a healthy boundry. Best of luck darling ❤️
@@badgurl5758 thank you 🙏🏾 I appreciate that more than you may realize. She’s in recovery and we have a much better relationship but still think about the past you know. SMH but it is better and I’m grateful for that and your kind words. Take care
@@Mimi-bs7kn I wanted to drop by to say hello. You were on my heart for some reason so I hope all is well.
@@badgurl5758 aw thank you !!! 😊 what a pleasant surprise. Yup things are going well. Thankful for another day. Works ok, kids are doing great so I can’t complain lol. How are you?! Happy Valentine’s Day.
As someone who was raised Catholic, I still find it abhorrent that, if God does exist, he would send an innocent baby to hell just because they weren't baptized. My grandmother spoke once of her miscarriage, and how she performed an emergency baptism when she lost the baby. Part of why I'm no longer involved in the church.
I loved her in the early 2000 now I love her extra.
Everyone kept saying " She's your mom. Just forgive her. Just let her win. Just be positive. Just be the bigger person...." They would never understand the pain of being abandoned by your mom and that she chose being right over you. People dont understand toxic moms exist.
Thank you Judge for scolding the mom and pointing out her flaw.
My heart is bleeding for the daughter because she was going thru what I am going thru rn. Except I could never heal from it.
Yes, unless you lived it, you'll never fully understand it. I've had to cut mine off, I super get it.
That evil woman getting mad about her daughter not baptizing her own children! No God accepts your nasty behavior! She has no remorse and should never see those children because I think she would baptize them without her daughter’s knowledge😡😡
Even the Judge understood what the evil defendant still does not.
So strong of a believer that baptizing the kids is more important than having a relationship with them and her daughter, insane.
This message is for new mothers. I know I commented above about letting my mom have her way about baptism, but my mom was much like this lady. Controlling, thinking she can still parent and punish me even when I was 36 years old. I didn't have the guts to cut her out of my life. I wish I had. I was 37 when she died, and I"m 48 now. You'd think I'd feel free but the damage she caused me mentally caused permanent damage. Please, ladies, let your child be who they are. Don't try to change them. You are the one person in your child'slife whose approval they need to develop into a confident adult. If you are controlling, disapporving, and use your love as a weapon by withholding it until your child caves, they will be broken forever. Is that really what you want? If not then please PLEASE, think about your actions when you have a child.
Lord, I'm crying over this case and now over your words. I relate to everything you said except that my mother is still alive. Iv been impaired in so many ways because of her. I'm 34, still struggling and working trough the emotional scars.
@@volb9817 I’m so sorry. I hear you. Every little thing makes me mad. Any criticism from anyone, even the tiniest, sets me off. The guilt is OVERWHELMING. Please do not take anymore abuse from your mom. Get therapy. It’s 100% worth it. Hugs.
@@volb9817 yes to what Aeryn Stormcrow said. Time and therapy; and if you feel it's beneficial to go no contact/low contact, do it for you. Now is your time. You are in control, and you get to choose what's best for you.
My mom has disowned me multiple times over my life choices. I'm so numb to her now that i can't feel happy when i see her. Moving away from her has been the best decision I've ever made.
I am in this video. For anyone doubting if these episodes are real. They sire are. This is my nest friend and her Mother. I was sad to have to accompany her on this trip but it was worthwhile because she got her money back and we cried the whole ride home because Judge Millian is the ONLY person beside me that acknowledged how backward her Mom is with her demands. The girls are how 10 ans 11 and the Grandmother has not had anything to do qith her own Grandchildren. Absolutely shameful but a blessing because she doesn't deserve their love.
WOW, Did the mother ever read these comments about herself? This one is so emotional. The mother still does not talk to them after all these years?
Probably not, but even if she did, it wouldn't phase her in the least bit. In her mind, she is right and that is all that matters to her. This was filmed in 2014. Here we are in 2022 and for the first time over the holidays last year in 2021 my friend was invited back in at the holidays to hopefully not have things be so awkward at her sister's wedding getting married and my friend wants family togetherness, but her Mom just can't let things go and keeps sending hateful texts about getting the girls baptized STILL 8 years later! So... my friend chooses to stay away for her mental health. Like Judge Millian says during the proceedings, how do you process when your own Mother doesn't love you anymore. I am not sure if she ever did. She has been used as a pawn by her Mother for various reasons and whenever my friend doesn't comply with her wishes, on comes the emotional blackmail. She could care less and that is what is so heart breaking. Most normal Mother's would lay down their lives for their children and ESPECIALLY the grandchildren. Not this woman... SMH...
@@32000voisine I am so glad you were there for your friend, This episode has stuck with me for so long and it tears my heart everytime I watch it. It is amazing that I am actually chatting with you and you were there, WOW.. I can't believe the mom has not gotten over this stuff, after all of these years. I am still shocked that she is still alive.. You are a good friend..
This case even made judge M tear up, this whole case was just sad. The mom definitely could have handled the whole situation differently.
Passive aggressive mother who is treating her daughter in a disgusting way which must affect the whole family. Please God she has a change of heart 💜
First let me say thank you for uploading this particular episode as it was within my *TOP 3* favourite cases!
Almost from the very beginning of this specific case, I cried and continued to cry until I cried myself to sleep. This was such a heartbreaking case to watch *BUT NOW……..* I wonder how they’re doing and whether or not they were able to patch up their relationship up!?! So to close out my reply to you I’d like to know how they’re doing!!!
*IF ANYONE KNOWS HOW THEY’RE DOING NOWADAYS……..PLEASE LET ME KNOW!!!!! I would truly & wholeheartedly appreciate your help/info.!!!!!!!!* 👍🏼💯❤️🙂
Words can be very hurtful and cause many families to separate. I wonder who was with the Plaintiff, her sister or another relative
the judge didn't ask or let her speak. The plaintiff is a spoiled grown up.she is doing this to hurt her mother and children. She is so phoney.
she could at least let her daughters see their grandparents. No my heart is for the defendant because there is more to this.
Definitely one of the most saddest court cases 😕
Man this made me cry🤦🏽♀️🤦🏽♀️🤦🏽♀️🤦🏽♀️🤦🏽♀️I appreciate this judge so much
Her mom is super controlling bringing up stuff from years ago smh 🤦🏾♀️
Narcissist
Yes👏 Judge👏 Milian👏
You have a whole new respect in my book
This is the kind of mom you block and walk away from. A narcissist.
Wow. Just like my Mother. My mom is exactly the same as this mother and to me it is dementia and mental illness because no mother should ever have these beliefs or act this way towards their family. They lose their love for family and they allow anger to take over their lives. And then they try to justify it with lies. It's terrible.
This is so sad and problematic smh.
This is one thing that people have to respect boundaries and stop pushing religion on people. I understand how the daughter feels I have to tell so called friends and family I'm a atheist stop pushing religion on me, religion is killing us and it's not helping us.
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I had to distance myself from my family because of how toxic they are due to religion.
I love how she always gets to the bottom of things, always figuring out what the real issues are.
I really appreciate it because us viewers are invested and we would like to know what is really going on. Some of these people want to keep it surface level and I want to know the details
This is the most emotional episodes I've seen. And the 1st time I've seen the judge tear up. Bravo I liked the way the judge handled this one
This was so hard to watch. I could never imagine treating my daughter like this.
Wow it's my first time seeing the judge that emotional 🥺👏👏
Let that mum change. I don't really know what would make a mother behave like that but she should change, period!!!
Every time I see this one I come to tears 😞 I don’t know about other cultures/races, but as a Latino I feel that this is very common in the Hispanic culture. Some (not all) Older women that are raised this way are stuck in their ways and are too stubborn to see past themselves.
So.. Encanto is very true then?
You're spot on I'm married to an Argentian woman and have ben with her for 54 years and her Catholic faith is very,very important to her, and her 18 grandchildren baptism was incredibly important to her.
Wow the judge was so right I have goose bumps with the way she spoke to the mum and showed compassion to her. It was beautiful
Judge got me in tears. She was absolutely right. I hope this mother listened to her tears and words and they were able to put it all behind them.
This was absolutely heartbreaking. I hope the Mother found it in her heart, to just let it all go, love her daughter, and grandbabies, like a Mother should.
I'm outright crying. This is so heartbreaking. The daughter would benefit by seeking therapy to work through the pain of having a toxic parent. The mother showed no signs of change even after Judge Milian's emotional plea.
Having lost my mom this past February, this broke my heart for the plaintiff. I had times of not talking about religion and politics, to my mom over things, but we got over it. A year or two would have been heartbreaking. I wish that my mom was still here and that I could hear her voice and just see her. Please hug your mom if you still have her. she raised you and just wants the world for you.
I'm sorry for your lost 🕊
Judge, you're one increadilble human being! I have the highest respect for you. You're the whole package. Highly reguared and immensely loved. Thank you.❤❤❤
I'm very emotional. This is so sad 😞
I really wish they did follow ups. I would love to know if that mother ever got over being so hateful.