Brilliant review Russ. They are sold through another company here in Australia and although expensive, its value is ten times the other brands. Thanks for mentioning its a family business of 15 people because I love supporting family businesses so I will buy one today. Cheers Mate.
So 15 people in Norway, that means a factory in China to make them? I can't find the damn answer on this of course. At least Kranzle are upfront about where they are made.
Dunno about the Masport branding in Oz and the pricing. Not readily available to buy so wonder what the support is like. If bunnings sold them, that would give them a chance against karcher in oz
We’ve not long purchased one of those and yes it far exceeds Karcher in power and quality. One negative though there needs to be instructions on how to put it together, as there are none. If it hadn’t been for your videos we would have been at a loss of how to get it working. 👍👍👍
Hi Russell we chatted some time ago (maybe another of your vdos) after my Karcher was stolen. I bought the V90 and waited while AVA fixed the fuse issue - which they have done. Thanks Russell, you are quite right this AVA out performs my Premium KARCHER and is way more user friendly and easier to use. I'm still waiting for Tone at AVA to let me know when the Patio Cleaner is back in stock - but they didn't take the Karcher version and this fits. Anyway, thanks a lot Russell. Much appreciated
I am glad that you are happy with the washer. I used mine a lot in the spring and summer, without any issues. It is good that Ava customer service is friendly and supportive! :-)
Thank you for your review, that looks like an excellent machine. I came accross a comparison between a lots of pressure cleaners, and it came out on top here too. The problem is, I can't find them anywhere in France, unfortunately. I'll have to go with a Karcher, it should still last a while.
There is nothing wrong with Karcher Paulo. They are a little over priced with gimmicks that aren't needed, but they are reliable and get the job done. :-)
A brilliant piece of engineering. I had three failures of Karcher k4 machines (which I think are rubbish) I had very poor response from Karcher and all they offered me was a standard repair at £161. Ava seem brilliant and made to last. Can you confirm if the P80 will draw from a barrel. I believe they do..
Yes, all Ava pressure washers are self priming. Here is a link to the self priming hose accessory and in the description it states that fact. avastore.co.uk/product/ava-self-priming-hose-w-check-valve/
Thank you. One more thing, I have read about these models blowing main 13a fuses on a regular basis. Have Ava sorted this problem out. I also can’t see this P80 model on their website. Has it been discontinued?? Thanks again. John
My P80 only blows fuses if it it connected to a socket on a spur or via an extension lead. If I connect it to a socket fed by the ringmain (two 2.5mm cables) it does not blow fuses. Since I figured this out, it has not blown a fuse and I have used the pressure washer a lot. I ended up buying the HP Hose Extension so that I did not need an electrical extension lead. The CEO of Ava told me that they had figured out the cause of the issue and hoped to have it rectified by the end of 2021. I have not heard from him since, so cannot say for certain that it has been addressed. As far as I am aware the P80 is still available here in the UK. :-)
@@RussellPlatten thank you. I’ve ordered a P60 bundle as the P80 is not listed on their website and it was £309 rather the £400+. Thanks again for your help. Great also that I can use my existing Karcher accessories. Cheers. John
The gun from @12:51 onward looks different to the one used in the rest of the video. Are some of the gun parts removable perhaps? p.s. thanks to your review, I just bought P80 over the Karcher K7, thank you!
I thought I had already replied to this, I must have forgot to press reply! Well spotted, it is a different gun. It is the gun that was supplied wth the Ava GO P50 which I have also reviewed. I must have picked up the wrong one for that section of the review. I hope you like your new pressure washer as much as I like mine! :-)
Hi Russle I see you've done review and test the Ava P80 and the Karcher k7. I currently have the P80, and I need a patio cleaner. Apparently the patio cleaner from Karcher fit the AVA P80. What is in your opinion the better patio cleaner head.? Should I buy Karcher T7 or the ava patio cleaner premium. Thanks for great reviews 👍
@@RussellPlatten oh yeah thats right. uk is green as well. i studied in london for 3 years in 2009. sadly i came back in 2012, but i know the moment u go beyond london boundries u see some amazing views . i remember i went to university of royal holloway and man me being from pakistan, that uni is built on a hil, and the walking way goes thru sort of a jungle and it was some feeling. i though of eu because of some reason i think most of the eu is greener, vegetation is very healthy and dense and clean. as compared to the us and Canada, there its very tricky, either white, by snow, or dry burned like Texas Nevada the Mexican side, the Oregon and Washington are amazingly green. anyway thanks for ur reply sir.
i believe karcher is going to have a hard time competing with these guys love what A.V.A are doing totall game changer. bought a k2 karcher had it less than 2 years and stoped working karchers customer service is the worst
I had a look on the Ava website and saw this: avastore.co.uk/product/ava-self-priming-hose-w-check-valve/ If you read the description, it states that all Ava pressure washers are self priming, so you would be fine. :-)
@@RussellPlatten thank you very much for speedy reply and finding this accessory which after further investigation indeed confirms that AVA Evolution or Master series will suck a water from any source :) I cancelled my K7 order and ordered Evolution P80 :) - my preference would be P90 but they don't currently sell it on UK market due to fuse problems and it would be too much hassle to get it from continent (I am in IRL). Looking forward to giving it a spin. It has a quite a workload ahead of itself. Lets hope it will last. One more time many thanks for getting back to me. Top man. Subbing in appreciation :)
Great video I ordered a p70 yesterday the p80 is out of stock at the minute,I don’t think there will be a great deal of difference in the 70 to the 80 looking at the specs.
I think it is astonishing how people can make so many videos of the Ava products without actually comparing the different model numbers for performance. For example how does the P60 compare with a P80 on cleaning patios?
Hi Russell. Another really helpful review, thanks. I do have a question about the K7 comparison though. The K7 is specified as 180 bar and 500 l/h. The AVA Master is 160 bar and 600 l/h. You reckon the AVA performance is superior. Is that because flow rate is more important than pressure? I'm looking for a good quality pressure washer mostly for DIY patio, path, paver, greenhouse, conservatory cleaning so this review - and your K7 review - are very timely. I also like the idea of the 20 year warranty and the fact that AVA classifies its spare parts as "non-profit" (or something similar).
I deal with ultra high pressure washers for desilting. I can confirm the psi doesn’t make much of a difference, it’s the flow rate that matters. The better the flow rate, the better the outcome you’ll receive. Most companies advertise high psi to sell, stick with high flow rates and you’ll be fine 👍
All these manufacturers love to only mention the "max pressure", but the devices are never able to reach that pressure. They should be obligated to mention the "working pressure", but you can only find these in the small prints. The "working pressure" is the realistic pressure. For the Karcher K7: the working pressure is 160 bar (16 mpa) 180 bar (18 mpa) is pure marketing. For the Ava P80: the working pressure is 130 bar (13 mpa) 160 bar (16 mpa) is pure marketing.
@@ChocolateMilk.. I prefer the Ava of Norway power washers. I have a Karcher K7 and Ava Master P80 pressure washer and in my opinion the Ava is a better machine for less money.
All these manufacturers love to only mention the "max pressure", but the devices are never able to reach that pressure. They should be obligated to mention the "working pressure", but you can only find these in the small prints. The "working pressure" is the realistic pressure. For the Karcher K7: the working pressure is 160 bar (16 mpa) 180 bar (18 mpa) is pure marketing. For the Ava P80: the working pressure is 130 bar (13 mpa) 160 bar (16 mpa) is pure marketing.
My P70 has started making a loud noise after I let go of the trigger think it was after adding the extension hose but also notice water is leaking at the tap end.
Wow what great video of a new brand of presher washer & about time too & I must admit that I actually went away from karcher as I had loads of issues with them & I changed to Nilfisk & Ive had the same one for 15years as its been absolutely amazing!! But I'm literally just looking for a new one & this really does look awesome to me especially after watching your video!! 😁 But can I please ask what's the best one to go for the P70 or the P80? Very much appreciate if you can reply back? Once again great review young man!!! 👌🏻👍🏻😁
I do not think it will matter which you go for Dave. The P80 has a higher discharge pressure, but at 150 bar the P70 is more than capable of great results. You can see how effective 140 bar is on this video for comaprison: ruclips.net/video/ZH7WxFYsXlg/видео.html :-)
@@RussellPlatten OK thanks for very much for replying Russell & OK I will check that out? Thanks again carry on with your in depth reviews on everything you review!!! 👌🏻👍🏻😁
Hi Russell, Chel here what and where can I purchase one of the screwdrivers that u used to service the Dyson cordless vacuum cleaner, please. My husband's birthday is June thanks Chel btw lovely view from your garden
Thank you Emilio! I was using a 4g router for the bird feeder camera and the package I had with 3 Mobile was for unlimited bandwidth. Unfortunately, the upload speed dropped after a few weeks to a point where I did not have the bandwidth to stream the footage. I think that they cut it back deliberately as I was using too much. I am hoping to get ultra fast fibre as our village has signed up for it and been accepted, but this will take some time! :-)
What is the best pressure washer out there guys I’m getting one very soon and don’t want to waste my time I’ll be using it for every situation so I need a good one thanks in advance
In my opinion, you cant go wrong with Ava washers. The Go P55 is a very portable washer with plenty of pressure and I use this for most jobs. The P80 is better for large areas and I use this every spring for all of my paving. The P55 is the most versatile and is very easy to use, just pick it up and go. For large areas the P80 is quicker. Both machines will get the job done! :-)
@@RussellPlatten thanks very much for your feedback its very much appreciated and I think I'll be taking your advice as I'll be heading to the store tomorrow thanks again👍
Can I comment that not all Karcher accessories fit the Ava machine. If there is no locking collar on the Karcher Accessory then it will fit the Ava. You need to be aware one brand has a lock on the female side, the other the male. Don’t get me wrong I have the Go P55 and I love it.
Ther turbo nozzle is high pressure and cannot be adjusted. You can use the nozzle from longer distances to reduce the pressure, but it is not designed for softer surfaces. The Vario nozzle has two pressure settings 20° and 60°, these two nozzles cover a wide range of applications such as wood, car washing and facias. You can also use both the nozzles simultaneously for a low pressure pressure spray. :-)
There is no such thing as a slow blow 15A fuse for a 3 pin plug that complies with British Standards. They are not available. Ava told me that the problem with fuses blowing is pretty rare. I found that the fuse would blow if I used the power washer on a socket with only one 2.5mm cable supplying it. If I plug it into a socket on the ringmain with two cables, there is no issue. It also blows fuses if plugged into an extension lead. I just make sure it is plugged into the ringmain. Ava are supposed to be bringing a modified P80 out for the UK market pretty soon. :-)
Russell, I recently purchased the evolution p70 however it arrived damaged, I have tried to contact AVA numerous times via the support email address however their emails are sporadic and none committal to a solution, I have been waiting for a week now to try and resolve this. Any advice on how to get them to shift would be appreciated.
Excellent Russel, must look into these, I don't fancy the gimmicky Karcher K7 now at all. have you ever heard of Jefferson Pressure washers? Jefferson Pressure Washer - 150 Bar - JEFWASE402-150
Watched lot of reviews and decided to purchase the p80 evolution over the likes of nilfisk and karcher. Gone to use for 1st time today. I have the issue of it blowing fuses so unable to use yet. Ive emailed ava to see what they advise. I did initially buy the master but didnt realise the difference but after great service from ava returned and got the evo instead
@@RussellPlatten ava have responded stating i should purchase a slow blow fuse explaing in detail the issue. Ill get myself some and have feeling will resolve the issue.
@umranhu hi, I'm just about to buy a AVA but wonder if you managed to find the necessary fuses and what make and where if you don't mind saying? Couldn't AVA have provided these on the UK version - or sent you a supply? Apologies for so many questions
@@BobTaile ive gone to use it today for 1st time to clean car and its blown the slow blow fuse so ive emailed ava to see what they say. Ava dont supply the slow blow fuse. Ill see if i can find link to online shop i bought them from. Im going to see if ava can supply me the revised p80 suitable for uk circuits but if not then sadly ill be returning mine for full refund
I found that the fuses only blew if the socket the pressure washer was plugged in to was on a spur (only supplied by one 2.5mm electric cable). If I use a socket on the ringmain, (supplied by two 2.5mm cables) the fuse does not blow. It will also blow the fuse if used with an extension cable. I just run the pressure washer cable through a window and plug it into the ring main. :-)
I have read elsewhere that pressure washing house windows can damage them and their frames, do you think there is anything in that? Is it safe to do so?
It is possible, to damage frames, especially wooden frames, but I do not think these pressure washers would damage the glass. I would always use a fan spray and not a jet. I have had no issues washing my PVC frames, but I am no expert on the subject! :-)
Hiya great review I’m looking at getting a karcher k7 compact and looking at the operating pressure the Ava is only 110 bar where the karcher is 145bar, if you’d rate them on cleaning ability alone which one is better? Thank you
The K7 was quoted as 160 bar when I purchased it in early 2021, it is now listed as 180 bar on the same Amazon product page, very strange!. The Ava Master P80 is 160 bar. They both clean well, but the Ava is a better machine in my opinion. It is designed with a lot more convenience, has no fancy gadgets, the attachments are better and it has a way longer guarantee. The K7 compact is the best version of the K7 in my opinion as this has no fancy gadgets too, but I personally would pick the Ava. :-)
Thanks Russell, I already have a hose and stubby gun for the karcher that’s why I am leaving towards it as I’m not sure Ava will work with after market stuff just yet
Grüße aus Niederbayern. Ich brauche einen AVA Hochdruckreiniger um die Fassade und das Dachstuhl außen sauber zu machen, ich kann mich aber nicht wirklich entscheiden welche ich mir zulegen sollte AVA Hochdruckreiniger Master P80 oder AVA Hochdruckreiniger Master P70 XL entscheiden, ich denke mir das der AVA Hochdruckreiniger Master P70 XL vollkommen ausreichen wäre oder was meinst du dazu? Schöne Grüße, Monika G.
P90L AVA costs 400euro ex vat, lavor maine1409 470e ex vat and kranzle 1152tst 650e or xa17tst 615e ex vat shipping included. All above except AVA are pro models with brass head pumps and ceramic coated pistons, pro axial pumps, pro guns and lances. I don't know what to say when I see people buy K7, K5 or this chinese machines for 100-200euro price difference... Or even compare them... But I must say AVA looks nice. I like the color of machine.
I think the majority of people just stick withy brands that they know. I used to research a little, but was always wary of brands I did not know. Ava are now my goto machines. I still have my Karcher, but use the P80 or P55 depending on what I am doing. :-)
Try buying one and that's when the silliness really starts. I have tried everywhere to order one without any success. I ended up registering with Ava in Norway and they said that they would contact me when the washers became available. They duly did contact me last week. Sadly the link to order that they sent me was a dead one. I have attempted to contact them several times since to ask them to clarify and they cannot or do not even respond. Really really shoddy service I'm afraid.
Sorry to hear that Geoff. I think you are suffering from the 'It's that time of year' effect. Everyone over here is thinking that it is time to get the patio and outside areas sorted out ready for the summer. It happens every year around this time, everyone is buying power washers! :-)
@@RussellPlatten My main issue is that AVA contacted me and said that the washer was now back in stock. When I clicked on the link they sent me it was dead. They are now not even replying to emails. I can't buy one from them if they do not respond. I may reluctantly end up with a Karcher K7
I have just been in contact with Ava. They tell me that the email advising that the P80 is now available was sent to me in error. They also apologised for not responding to my additional enquiries. The upshot is that they cannot offer a prediction as to when the P80 will be available in the UK. Thomas from Ava did suggest however that it would be much later rather than sooner. I am going to have to reluctantly buy a Karcher K7. A real pity as the P80 looks a real winner.
That is a pity Geoff! I am glad that you managed to get some information. The K7 is definitely a good power washer, I would go for the base model without the bells and whistles. A friend of mine went for the K7 Compact and loves it. Good luck! :-)
according to their site, if your home electric supply drops to 218v then fuse can blow. in this case they say swap fuse for 13amp "time delay" fuse. sometimes called "slow blow"
I believe there is a little bit of false advertising when you put the K7 Compact to the test. When testing with a pressure gauge straight out of the output of the pump I got a Maximum of 2150PSI (148 bar) before it trips out the pressure switch. 8l/minute MAX (480l/hr). Don't get me wrong its still a very powerful unit for an electric single phase but I don't like the fact that all these electric units never really put real specs and get away with it
I can only compare it to my Karcher K7 by actually using it and in my opinion it is a better machine. I do not have the equipment to check the discharge pressure of the pump and would not even consider stripping the unit down to fit a pressure gauge. :-)
@@RussellPlatten no need to strip down . You just add a gauge with 3/8th quick connect inline. But yes your right its got very good washing power regardless of the psi and l/min. My beef id that the industry put out fake ratings to make it more marketable. I have a 2nd new unit this week and will test that to make sure the 2 units put out same readings and will see if I can record and post it if I can get the courage to get in front of a camera
@@RussellPlatten I finally did a video testing the psi and flow and in the end it does what it is rated at so this is one unit I can reccomend. I just posted it if you want to see some amature review! ruclips.net/video/Fz4z55FhXgU/видео.html
@@RussellPlatten lol thanks but I don't think I'll give up my day job just yet! Also bit camera shy. Good on you for doing what you do , your a natural
Great video . This was the reason I purchased a P60 , which im incredibly impressed with ...Just one question I'm aware that Karcher accessories fit the gun/lance , but what about an extension hose . The P60 comes with 8 meters as standard . Do I need a bespoke Ava extension or would an aftermarket Karcher fit . I did some research and the fittings look more like the Bosch SDS Click connect than Karcher . Any feedback would be appreciated..
A Karcher hose would not fit. I just had a look at my Karcher extension hose and it has the two flats machined into the coupling. Ava sell an adapter that will allow a Karcher hose extension to be used. I hope this helps. www.avaofnorway.com/accessories/adapters :-)
I have just finished using this pressure washer to clean all of my patio areas and pathways (except a small area I could not reach without an extension lead,) two or three hours of washing over several days. I used my Go P55 for the area I could not reach and realised that whilst this machine did the job well, it was slower than the Master P80. I decided to purchase a 15M ava high pressure extension hose to allow me to wash all the areas I needed to. The P80 never blew a fuse. If I plug it into a 30A ringmain circuit through a window, it is fine. It only blows fuses when it is plugged into a spur off the ringmain or an extension lead. To be safe, the P60 will be fine! :-)
I have a Karcher K4 full control and it's pretty crap in all honesty. All plastic parts and the water outlet L bend broke on me less than 2 months from new. When it comes time to upgrade I'm not even going to look at Karcher ever again, but instead will be looking at AVA and Kranzle. Karcher used to be a reputable brand, now not so much.
Better still, when cleaning patios, its far Better, spraying a patio cleaner, such as wet and forget, as you dont bugger up the pointing, or the surface of the flag. But water is free, chemicals arnt.
Sorry just bought one of these, what a pile of junk. They must be paying you well to praise this bucket. . Its cheap and nasty and customer support is crap. £540. Wasted due to you and others sponsored reviews..
Brilliant review Russ. They are sold through another company here in Australia and although expensive, its value is ten times the other brands. Thanks for mentioning its a family business of 15 people because I love supporting family businesses so I will buy one today. Cheers Mate.
It is a great pressure washer! :-)
I think car care products now sell them
So 15 people in Norway, that means a factory in China to make them? I can't find the damn answer on this of course. At least Kranzle are upfront about where they are made.
Dunno about the Masport branding in Oz and the pricing. Not readily available to buy so wonder what the support is like. If bunnings sold them, that would give them a chance against karcher in oz
@@AdamAus85what does it matter where it's made if it's a great product with a good warranty?
Excellent review, just what I was looking for. Thanks
Glad it was helpful! :-)
We’ve not long purchased one of those and yes it far exceeds Karcher in power and quality. One negative though there needs to be instructions on how to put it together, as there are none. If it hadn’t been for your videos we would have been at a loss of how to get it working. 👍👍👍
Glad I could help! :-)
Hi Russell we chatted some time ago (maybe another of your vdos) after my Karcher was stolen. I bought the V90 and waited while AVA fixed the fuse issue - which they have done.
Thanks Russell, you are quite right this AVA out performs my Premium KARCHER and is way more user friendly and easier to use.
I'm still waiting for Tone at AVA to let me know when the Patio Cleaner is back in stock - but they didn't take the Karcher version and this fits.
Anyway, thanks a lot Russell. Much appreciated
I am glad that you are happy with the washer. I used mine a lot in the spring and summer, without any issues. It is good that Ava customer service is friendly and supportive! :-)
So is the fuse issue resolved I can’t see much online
Thank you for your review, that looks like an excellent machine. I came accross a comparison between a lots of pressure cleaners, and it came out on top here too. The problem is, I can't find them anywhere in France, unfortunately. I'll have to go with a Karcher, it should still last a while.
There is nothing wrong with Karcher Paulo. They are a little over priced with gimmicks that aren't needed, but they are reliable and get the job done. :-)
Unfortunately, it won’t last a while…sorry.
A brilliant piece of engineering. I had three failures of Karcher k4 machines (which I think are rubbish) I had very poor response from Karcher and all they offered me was a standard repair at £161. Ava seem brilliant and made to last. Can you confirm if the P80 will draw from a barrel. I believe they do..
Yes, all Ava pressure washers are self priming. Here is a link to the self priming hose accessory and in the description it states that fact. avastore.co.uk/product/ava-self-priming-hose-w-check-valve/
Thank you. One more thing, I have read about these models blowing main 13a fuses on a regular basis. Have Ava sorted this problem out. I also can’t see this P80 model on their website. Has it been discontinued?? Thanks again. John
My P80 only blows fuses if it it connected to a socket on a spur or via an extension lead. If I connect it to a socket fed by the ringmain (two 2.5mm cables) it does not blow fuses. Since I figured this out, it has not blown a fuse and I have used the pressure washer a lot. I ended up buying the HP Hose Extension so that I did not need an electrical extension lead.
The CEO of Ava told me that they had figured out the cause of the issue and hoped to have it rectified by the end of 2021. I have not heard from him since, so cannot say for certain that it has been addressed. As far as I am aware the P80 is still available here in the UK. :-)
@@RussellPlatten thank you. I’ve ordered a P60 bundle as the P80 is not listed on their website and it was £309 rather the £400+. Thanks again for your help. Great also that I can use my existing Karcher accessories. Cheers. John
The gun from @12:51 onward looks different to the one used in the rest of the video. Are some of the gun parts removable perhaps?
p.s. thanks to your review, I just bought P80 over the Karcher K7, thank you!
I thought I had already replied to this, I must have forgot to press reply! Well spotted, it is a different gun. It is the gun that was supplied wth the Ava GO P50 which I have also reviewed. I must have picked up the wrong one for that section of the review. I hope you like your new pressure washer as much as I like mine! :-)
@@RussellPlatten not a problem, that explains why then. I was starting to feel like I was being left out 😃.
Thank you!
Hi Russle I see you've done review and test the Ava P80 and the Karcher k7.
I currently have the P80, and I need a patio cleaner. Apparently the patio cleaner from Karcher fit the AVA P80. What is in your opinion the better patio cleaner head.? Should I buy Karcher T7 or the ava patio cleaner premium.
Thanks for great reviews 👍
I would go for the cheapest Peter. There is not a lot of difference. :-)
Great, thank you 👍
I am just mesmerized by the views and mostly looking at the scenery. What place is this? is this norway? nd thank u for the review:)
I live in the UK, near the channel. :-)
@@RussellPlatten oh yeah thats right. uk is green as well. i studied in london for 3 years in 2009. sadly i came back in 2012, but i know the moment u go beyond london boundries u see some amazing views . i remember i went to university of royal holloway and man me being from pakistan, that uni is built on a hil, and the walking way goes thru sort of a jungle and it was some feeling. i though of eu because of some reason i think most of the eu is greener, vegetation is very healthy and dense and clean. as compared to the us and Canada, there its very tricky, either white, by snow, or dry burned like Texas Nevada the Mexican side, the Oregon and Washington are amazingly green. anyway thanks for ur reply sir.
i believe karcher is going to have a hard time competing with these guys love what A.V.A are doing
totall game changer. bought a k2 karcher had it less than 2 years and stoped working karchers customer service is the worst
Ava are certainly better than Karcher! :-)
Great review. Do you know if P80 would suck the water from butt tank or a bucket? If not would a gravity fed water from a butt tank suffice?
I had a look on the Ava website and saw this: avastore.co.uk/product/ava-self-priming-hose-w-check-valve/
If you read the description, it states that all Ava pressure washers are self priming, so you would be fine. :-)
@@RussellPlatten thank you very much for speedy reply and finding this accessory which after further investigation indeed confirms that AVA Evolution or Master series will suck a water from any source :)
I cancelled my K7 order and ordered Evolution P80 :) - my preference would be P90 but they don't currently sell it on UK market due to fuse problems and it would be too much hassle to get it from continent (I am in IRL).
Looking forward to giving it a spin. It has a quite a workload ahead of itself. Lets hope it will last.
One more time many thanks for getting back to me. Top man. Subbing in appreciation :)
Thank you for subscribing! :-)
Great video I ordered a p70 yesterday the p80 is out of stock at the minute,I don’t think there will be a great deal of difference in the 70 to the 80 looking at the specs.
The P70 will be fine! :-)
@@RussellPlatten has the p70 had any problems with the fuses blowing?
@@iceman9646 Used my new P70 today front and back yard I used a 10m extension cable for the front yard no fuses blown.
@@humansrants1694 thanks man
I think it is astonishing how people can make so many videos of the Ava products without actually comparing the different model numbers for performance. For example how does the P60 compare with a P80 on cleaning patios?
Hi Russell. Another really helpful review, thanks. I do have a question about the K7 comparison though. The K7 is specified as 180 bar and 500 l/h. The AVA Master is 160 bar and 600 l/h. You reckon the AVA performance is superior. Is that because flow rate is more important than pressure? I'm looking for a good quality pressure washer mostly for DIY patio, path, paver, greenhouse, conservatory cleaning so this review - and your K7 review - are very timely. I also like the idea of the 20 year warranty and the fact that AVA classifies its spare parts as "non-profit" (or something similar).
Yes, the flow rate is better for large areas and the pressure does not make a lot of difference at these higher pressures. :-)
I deal with ultra high pressure washers for desilting. I can confirm the psi doesn’t make much of a difference, it’s the flow rate that matters. The better the flow rate, the better the outcome you’ll receive. Most companies advertise high psi to sell, stick with high flow rates and you’ll be fine 👍
All these manufacturers love to only mention the "max pressure", but the devices are never able to reach that pressure. They should be obligated to mention the "working pressure", but you can only find these in the small prints. The "working pressure" is the realistic pressure.
For the Karcher K7: the working pressure is 160 bar (16 mpa)
180 bar (18 mpa) is pure marketing.
For the Ava P80: the working pressure is 130 bar (13 mpa)
160 bar (16 mpa) is pure marketing.
Amazing video. I need to know where can i find it in the middle east, any help?
Sorry, I can't help you there. You could try contacting Ava customer support. Email: support@avaofnorway.com :-)
Sir can you make a review again together with Ava Master P80 and karcher 7, test pressure strength,dirt blaster on wood and on brick etc...
I have no plans for another Karcher K7 video. :-)
@@RussellPlatten Why?
@@ChocolateMilk.. I prefer the Ava of Norway power washers. I have a Karcher K7 and Ava Master P80 pressure washer and in my opinion the Ava is a better machine for less money.
@@RussellPlatten Just bought one right now. Good to hear. Got it for 325 pounds. XL version. Think it refers to the length of the hose.
@@ChocolateMilk.. I hope you like it as much as I like mine! :-)
Is it worth adding the bottle and using Karcher stone cleaner spraying the cleaner all over the stone then pressure washing after that?
I find that the water pressure alone is fine. I do not use detergents. :-)
All these manufacturers love to only mention the "max pressure", but the devices are never able to reach that pressure. They should be obligated to mention the "working pressure", but you can only find these in the small prints. The "working pressure" is the realistic pressure.
For the Karcher K7: the working pressure is 160 bar (16 mpa)
180 bar (18 mpa) is pure marketing.
For the Ava P80: the working pressure is 130 bar (13 mpa)
160 bar (16 mpa) is pure marketing.
My P70 has started making a loud noise after I let go of the trigger think it was after adding the extension hose but also notice water is leaking at the tap end.
Not sure what is happening there. Contact Ava of Norway customer support, they may be able to help you. support@avaofnorway.com :-)
Wow what great video of a new brand of presher washer & about time too & I must admit that I actually went away from karcher as I had loads of issues with them & I changed to Nilfisk & Ive had the same one for 15years as its been absolutely amazing!! But I'm literally just looking for a new one & this really does look awesome to me especially after watching your video!! 😁 But can I please ask what's the best one to go for the P70 or the P80? Very much appreciate if you can reply back? Once again great review young man!!! 👌🏻👍🏻😁
I do not think it will matter which you go for Dave. The P80 has a higher discharge pressure, but at 150 bar the P70 is more than capable of great results. You can see how effective 140 bar is on this video for comaprison: ruclips.net/video/ZH7WxFYsXlg/видео.html :-)
@@RussellPlatten OK thanks for very much for replying Russell & OK I will check that out? Thanks again carry on with your in depth reviews on everything you review!!! 👌🏻👍🏻😁
@@davelawrence594 Glad I could help! :-)
Hi Russell, Chel here what and where can I purchase one of the screwdrivers that u used to service the Dyson cordless vacuum cleaner, please. My husband's birthday is June thanks Chel btw lovely view from your garden
Hi Chel, there is a link in the video description on the Dyson video. The screwdriver is a Wowstick. :-)
@@RussellPlatten thank you so much for prompt reply x chel
@@jeffellis9462 No problem Chel, I think it will be a fine birthday present for Jeff! :-)
Hi, did you ever manage to sort out the fuse issue. I was looking at the P80 but am put off by this electrical issue.
Great video! What happened to the bird feeder live cam?
Thank you Emilio! I was using a 4g router for the bird feeder camera and the package I had with 3 Mobile was for unlimited bandwidth. Unfortunately, the upload speed dropped after a few weeks to a point where I did not have the bandwidth to stream the footage. I think that they cut it back deliberately as I was using too much. I am hoping to get ultra fast fibre as our village has signed up for it and been accepted, but this will take some time! :-)
Thank you for the amazing video. So, which one do you prefer Karcher or Ava?
Tha Ava is a better machine in my opinion. No gimmicks, no electronics, just as powerful, easier to use, massive warranty and cheaper! :-)
Of cause AVA the worlds best pressure washer duh
have you used the long lance from AVA yet to clean the fascia boards ?
I haven't Derek. I have been washing my patio areas on and off for the last week. The P80 has been a real time saver! :-)
@@RussellPlatten thank you I bought the p80 great machine
@@derekmckreel7656 Agreed! :-)
Another great video Russell!
Thank you Johnathan! :-)
Hello! Can i use a normal garden hose into the machine and the power out the other end will still be as strong?
Yes, so long as the flow rate is sufficient from the tap. I use a normal garden hose to connect mine. :-)
What is the best pressure washer out there guys I’m getting one very soon and don’t want to waste my time I’ll be using it for every situation so I need a good one thanks in advance
In my opinion, you cant go wrong with Ava washers. The Go P55 is a very portable washer with plenty of pressure and I use this for most jobs. The P80 is better for large areas and I use this every spring for all of my paving. The P55 is the most versatile and is very easy to use, just pick it up and go. For large areas the P80 is quicker. Both machines will get the job done! :-)
@@RussellPlatten thanks very much for your feedback its very much appreciated and I think I'll be taking your advice as I'll be heading to the store tomorrow thanks again👍
:-)
Can I comment that not all Karcher accessories fit the Ava machine. If there is no locking collar on the Karcher Accessory then it will fit the Ava. You need to be aware one brand has a lock on the female side, the other the male. Don’t get me wrong I have the Go P55 and I love it.
Thanks for that information Alan! :-)
Hi Russ. Can you tell me if you can adjust the pressure on the gun/lance on the p80. Cheers.
Ther turbo nozzle is high pressure and cannot be adjusted. You can use the nozzle from longer distances to reduce the pressure, but it is not designed for softer surfaces. The Vario nozzle has two pressure settings 20° and 60°, these two nozzles cover a wide range of applications such as wood, car washing and facias. You can also use both the nozzles simultaneously for a low pressure pressure spray. :-)
@@RussellPlatten Hi. Thank you for your detailed reply. Appreciate your help. Cheers.
@@adyhillier3311 You're welcome! :-)
Russel I’ve just watch another RUclips channel which has done a review on the p80 they state that a 15amp slow blow fuse is needed! Any thoughts?
There is no such thing as a slow blow 15A fuse for a 3 pin plug that complies with British Standards. They are not available. Ava told me that the problem with fuses blowing is pretty rare. I found that the fuse would blow if I used the power washer on a socket with only one 2.5mm cable supplying it. If I plug it into a socket on the ringmain with two cables, there is no issue. It also blows fuses if plugged into an extension lead. I just make sure it is plugged into the ringmain. Ava are supposed to be bringing a modified P80 out for the UK market pretty soon. :-)
Russell,
I recently purchased the evolution p70 however it arrived damaged, I have tried to contact AVA numerous times via the support email address however their emails are sporadic and none committal to a solution, I have been waiting for a week now to try and resolve this.
Any advice on how to get them to shift would be appreciated.
Can you send it back and order another? :-)
Excellent Russel, must look into these, I don't fancy the gimmicky Karcher K7 now at all.
have you ever heard of Jefferson Pressure washers?
Jefferson Pressure Washer - 150 Bar - JEFWASE402-150
LOL - Just mentioned these in your previous comment! Not heard of Jefferson. :-)
What is the major differences between p60 and p80?
The P80 has a larger motor delivering higher pressure at a greater flow rate. It also has a longer high pressure hose. :-)
Watched lot of reviews and decided to purchase the p80 evolution over the likes of nilfisk and karcher.
Gone to use for 1st time today. I have the issue of it blowing fuses so unable to use yet. Ive emailed ava to see what they advise. I did initially buy the master but didnt realise the difference but after great service from ava returned and got the evo instead
I hope you get everything sorted! :-)
@@RussellPlatten ava have responded stating i should purchase a slow blow fuse explaing in detail the issue. Ill get myself some and have feeling will resolve the issue.
Having visited a few electrical shops and bq no one carries these fuses. Receieved some i ordered online but wrong size so given up for now
@umranhu hi, I'm just about to buy a AVA but wonder if you managed to find the necessary fuses and what make and where if you don't mind saying?
Couldn't AVA have provided these on the UK version - or sent you a supply?
Apologies for so many questions
@@BobTaile ive gone to use it today for 1st time to clean car and its blown the slow blow fuse so ive emailed ava to see what they say. Ava dont supply the slow blow fuse. Ill see if i can find link to online shop i bought them from.
Im going to see if ava can supply me the revised p80 suitable for uk circuits but if not then sadly ill be returning mine for full refund
Hi did you ever sort the problem with Fuses blowing? Mine is doing the exact same thing and AVA are blaming my power supply?
I found that the fuses only blew if the socket the pressure washer was plugged in to was on a spur (only supplied by one 2.5mm electric cable). If I use a socket on the ringmain, (supplied by two 2.5mm cables) the fuse does not blow. It will also blow the fuse if used with an extension cable. I just run the pressure washer cable through a window and plug it into the ring main. :-)
I have read elsewhere that pressure washing house windows can damage them and their frames, do you think there is anything in that? Is it safe to do so?
It is possible, to damage frames, especially wooden frames, but I do not think these pressure washers would damage the glass. I would always use a fan spray and not a jet. I have had no issues washing my PVC frames, but I am no expert on the subject! :-)
@@RussellPlatten Thanks, Russell
@@DEFDEF9 You're welcome! :-)
Hiya great review I’m looking at getting a karcher k7 compact and looking at the operating pressure the Ava is only 110 bar where the karcher is 145bar, if you’d rate them on cleaning ability alone which one is better? Thank you
The K7 was quoted as 160 bar when I purchased it in early 2021, it is now listed as 180 bar on the same Amazon product page, very strange!. The Ava Master P80 is 160 bar. They both clean well, but the Ava is a better machine in my opinion. It is designed with a lot more convenience, has no fancy gadgets, the attachments are better and it has a way longer guarantee. The K7 compact is the best version of the K7 in my opinion as this has no fancy gadgets too, but I personally would pick the Ava. :-)
Thanks Russell, I already have a hose and stubby gun for the karcher that’s why I am leaving towards it as I’m not sure Ava will work with after market stuff just yet
There is nothing wrong with the Karcher K7, especially the compact version. if you decide to go for it you will not be making a bad choice! :-)
Hi Russell went with the K7 compact brilliant pressure washer ✌️
@@protester2474 Glad that you are all sorted out and happy! :-)
I'm constantly wrestling with the hose on my Karcher K7, it's a real pain on a machine at that price range. This looks like a good alternative.
The P80 is a better machine Paul. :-)
Grüße aus Niederbayern.
Ich brauche einen AVA Hochdruckreiniger um die Fassade und das Dachstuhl außen sauber zu machen, ich kann mich aber nicht wirklich entscheiden welche ich mir zulegen sollte AVA Hochdruckreiniger Master P80 oder AVA Hochdruckreiniger Master P70 XL entscheiden, ich denke mir das der AVA Hochdruckreiniger Master P70 XL vollkommen ausreichen wäre oder was meinst du dazu?
Schöne Grüße,
Monika G.
Hallo Monika,
Das P70 wird in Ordnung sein. :-)
@@RussellPlatten Danke dir.
ich habe mich für einen P80 Master, bin sehr zufrieden damit.
P80
P90L AVA costs 400euro ex vat, lavor maine1409 470e ex vat and kranzle 1152tst 650e or xa17tst 615e ex vat shipping included. All above except AVA are pro models with brass head pumps and ceramic coated pistons, pro axial pumps, pro guns and lances. I don't know what to say when I see people buy K7, K5 or this chinese machines for 100-200euro price difference... Or even compare them... But I must say AVA looks nice. I like the color of machine.
I think the majority of people just stick withy brands that they know. I used to research a little, but was always wary of brands I did not know. Ava are now my goto machines. I still have my Karcher, but use the P80 or P55 depending on what I am doing. :-)
Try buying one and that's when the silliness really starts. I have tried everywhere to order one without any success. I ended up registering with Ava in Norway and they said that they would contact me when the washers became available. They duly did contact me last week. Sadly the link to order that they sent me was a dead one. I have attempted to contact them several times since to ask them to clarify and they cannot or do not even respond. Really really shoddy service I'm afraid.
Sorry to hear that Geoff. I think you are suffering from the 'It's that time of year' effect. Everyone over here is thinking that it is time to get the patio and outside areas sorted out ready for the summer. It happens every year around this time, everyone is buying power washers! :-)
@@RussellPlatten My main issue is that AVA contacted me and said that the washer was now back in stock. When I clicked on the link they sent me it was dead. They are now not even replying to emails. I can't buy one from them if they do not respond. I may reluctantly end up with a Karcher K7
I have just been in contact with Ava. They tell me that the email advising that the P80 is now available was sent to me in error. They also apologised for not responding to my additional enquiries. The upshot is that they cannot offer a prediction as to when the P80 will be available in the UK. Thomas from Ava did suggest however that it would be much later rather than sooner. I am going to have to reluctantly buy a Karcher K7. A real pity as the P80 looks a real winner.
That is a pity Geoff! I am glad that you managed to get some information. The K7 is definitely a good power washer, I would go for the base model without the bells and whistles. A friend of mine went for the K7 Compact and loves it. Good luck! :-)
Hi does this power washer have to change the 13amp fuse in the UK for a higher fuse thanks
It is fitted with a UK 13 amp plug David. :-)
according to their site, if your home electric supply drops to 218v then fuse can blow.
in this case they say swap fuse for 13amp "time delay" fuse. sometimes called "slow blow"
I believe there is a little bit of false advertising when you put the K7 Compact to the test. When testing with a pressure gauge straight out of the output of the pump I got a Maximum of 2150PSI (148 bar) before it trips out the pressure switch. 8l/minute MAX (480l/hr). Don't get me wrong its still a very powerful unit for an electric single phase but I don't like the fact that all these electric units never really put real specs and get away with it
I can only compare it to my Karcher K7 by actually using it and in my opinion it is a better machine. I do not have the equipment to check the discharge pressure of the pump and would not even consider stripping the unit down to fit a pressure gauge. :-)
@@RussellPlatten no need to strip down . You just add a gauge with 3/8th quick connect inline. But yes your right its got very good washing power regardless of the psi and l/min. My beef id that the industry put out fake ratings to make it more marketable. I have a 2nd new unit this week and will test that to make sure the 2 units put out same readings and will see if I can record and post it if I can get the courage to get in front of a camera
@@RussellPlatten I finally did a video testing the psi and flow and in the end it does what it is rated at so this is one unit I can reccomend. I just posted it if you want to see some amature review! ruclips.net/video/Fz4z55FhXgU/видео.html
Well done Sam. Good luck with your channel. :-)
@@RussellPlatten lol thanks but I don't think I'll give up my day job just yet! Also bit camera shy. Good on you for doing what you do , your a natural
If its blowing fuses , it could well be due to having too long an electric extension cable putting too much load on the fuse.
Great video . This was the reason I purchased a P60 , which im incredibly impressed with ...Just one question I'm aware that Karcher accessories fit the gun/lance , but what about an extension hose . The P60 comes with 8 meters as standard . Do I need a bespoke Ava extension or would an aftermarket Karcher fit .
I did some research and the fittings look more like the Bosch SDS Click connect than Karcher . Any feedback would be appreciated..
A Karcher hose would not fit. I just had a look at my Karcher extension hose and it has the two flats machined into the coupling. Ava sell an adapter that will allow a Karcher hose extension to be used. I hope this helps. www.avaofnorway.com/accessories/adapters :-)
Are you using any chemical?
No, just water. :-)
Excellent review😊 lots of feature in machine.
It is a good pressure washer! :-)
The reason why kärcher is beter is the durability and its easier to use and they make a lotof acesories to their pressurse whasers
:-)
That's you calling explanation about the product. 5 star for the guy
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It will be the 2800w and the fact the uk is 230v
I bought a P60 because i cba with fuse issues and tbh its mainly for car will be powerful enough lol
I have just finished using this pressure washer to clean all of my patio areas and pathways (except a small area I could not reach without an extension lead,) two or three hours of washing over several days. I used my Go P55 for the area I could not reach and realised that whilst this machine did the job well, it was slower than the Master P80. I decided to purchase a 15M ava high pressure extension hose to allow me to wash all the areas I needed to. The P80 never blew a fuse. If I plug it into a 30A ringmain circuit through a window, it is fine. It only blows fuses when it is plugged into a spur off the ringmain or an extension lead. To be safe, the P60 will be fine! :-)
I've got a Master P60 - also replaced a K7, far more impressive and quieter!
you sold one cheers
I am going to be using mine again today. It is that time of year! :-)
I have a Karcher K4 full control and it's pretty crap in all honesty. All plastic parts and the water outlet L bend broke on me less than 2 months from new. When it comes time to upgrade I'm not even going to look at Karcher ever again, but instead will be looking at AVA and Kranzle. Karcher used to be a reputable brand, now not so much.
So far I am impressed with Ava. :-)
Better still, when cleaning patios, its far Better, spraying a patio cleaner, such as wet and forget, as you dont bugger up the pointing, or the surface of the flag. But water is free, chemicals arnt.
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Sorry just bought one of these, what a pile of junk. They must be paying you well to praise this bucket. . Its cheap and nasty and customer support is crap. £540. Wasted due to you and others sponsored reviews..
Sounds like a you problem