TIMESTAMPS IGOR'S THEME- 3:48 EARFQUAKE- 7:17 I THINK- 12:53 EXACTLY WHAT YOU RUN FROM YOU END UP CHASING- 17:04 RUNNING OUT OF TIME- 17:19 NEW MAGIC WAND- 21:50 A BOY IS A GUN*- 27:22 PUPPET- 32:35 WHAT'S GOOD- 35:57 GONE, GONE / THANK YOU- 41:10 I DON'T LOVE YOU ANYMORE- 48:04 ARE WE STILL FRIENDS?- 53:25 the igor slander is real in this video
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this is my favorite album of all time. i love how unique the music is and how it blends so many genres into one amazing project. that’s not even mentioning the amazing story it tells throughout each track. everything about this album is perfect.
@@eddy1676 Same. Was making dinner and smking a jay the night I got it on vinyl, didnt even look at the track list. Wife and I were jamming in a new dimension to this new banger on an already perfect album
When I first heard this album I didn’t like it. I wanted to hear him RAP and I wanted something crazy from him that I could relate. Then I played it again and realized just how special it is to have someone tell me a story about something I’ve never experienced (having to justify your love for someone and eventually losing yourself & your feelings for them bc they struggle to accept themselves, their sexuality and you by extension) and that’s when I realized how much more beautiful, emotional and impactful it was. I really understood what Tyler was telling me even though that’s nothing like my experiences, few have been able to do that for me. Love this album.
It is good not to lock yourself up in terms of tastes, you feel freer. Tyler tells us a story and it has a real background that usually happens in life in general. Musically it is a masterpiece.
I am always a sucker for a concept album and this story is soooo good. He tells it through the music so well. I love that you can tell the story so easily from just the lyrics and the feel of the songs progressing
Exactly!! I'm not gonna lie I lime his videos but when he said I'm surprised by the lack of surprise I had to pause this shit 😅, This was my album of the decade, please note that I said MY lol
I liked your description about Earfquake having that “mainstream” sound. He actually made that song for Rhianna and Justin Bieber so you’re spot-on with the song feeling mainstream tbh.
@@user-du3yr8ld7i artists write songs for other artists all the time, Justin Bieber for example doesn't write his own songs, people do it for him including other artists
It’s his most pop album for sure, but it’s done on Tyler’s terms and that’s what makes it unique and why so many people love this album. Definitely a foray from his typical style, but it was an important chapter in his story and to many has been the pinnacle of his career. The reaction you had was that of many diehard Tyler fans at the time. It didn’t sound like Tyler, he was singing, it wasn’t what his biggest fans wanted or expected. I remember the night it released and seeing the response, it was ugly at first, but as the days went on people came to love it. He is called Tyler the creator, not Tyler the rapper. This isn’t a rap album and it can’t be confined to any label or genre, it’s unique and this uniqueness is why many consider Igor to be Tyler’s best work.
I don’t know where I remember hearing this from, but you were right about saying that Tyler is just going to fall in love again, because at the end of the final track of the album, it ends off with a synth cord, that is reminiscent to the synth in the opening track, which signifies that the albums is kind of loop, all the stuff that happened to Tyler throughout the album just repeats, because Tyler’s love will just keep him chasing the person he is in love with. Hope this helps you understand the story of the album a bit more.
For a « rap » album you would say ? Im a huge fan of Tyler and Igor is one of my favorite album (got it on vinyl), but bro there are thousand of amazing albums every year
17:43 i think the whole album is about how he falls inlove with someone and then keeps on going for that person but at the end where he doesnt make it he asks „Are we still friends?“ and the bass at the end of the song transitions back into igors theme meaning its an loop for him, falling in love, chasing for it, and then not making it but still wants to have some connection
I can understand your lukewarm feelings on this album, personally i love It, but I'll say: Igor is a character on this album, it's his story and there's less of Tyler's usual tone because of that (that's the reason for the pitched up voice, besides wanting to make his singing more melodic) The tracks are all feeling based and production focused, because Tyler wanted to flex his producing skills like he had been on Flower Boy, but taking the focus off his persona to appeal to other mainstream artists and say "Hey, i could do this for you" I remember him saying that he even wanted Justin Bieber on Earfquake. But imo, the album is still uniquely Tyler even with all the Pop/Soul/RnB influences, it's just more subtle and meant to be absorbed as an experience. But i absolutely respect your reaction, i hope to see more in the future with different artists. 1:01:30 also no, that was Flower Boy, which was after Cherry Bomb, Tyler felt pushed by the negative perception and wanted to make something that was way cleaner, which is what Flower Boy was.
I'm happy so many people took the time to explain why they enjoy this one so much. There were so many elements that I missed on the first listen. I honestly think it's basically impossible to "get it" all in one, initial listen. It's subtle, but there are a lot of layers working together in this album. I can understand why people love it, just not quite my jam is all. Thanks for the great comment :)
I understand that it’s not your favorite Tyler album but I think it’s his masterpiece. It was meant to be listened to front to back in one listen and that’s exactly how I did it. Which I think really benefits it as a story and cohesive project. I was in basic training when it was realized and I hadn’t heard music in 4 months prior to listening to it. I finally got my phone and headphones back in AIT and I could not believe how amazing it was. Maybe it was due to not listening to music for so long, but I still hear it the same way I did when I first listened to it. It is such a cohesive and well thought out project from someone that wanted to challenge themself and I think he exceeded with flying colors. Expectations might have ruined the album for some but I was so happy to hear Tyler expand his sound and release something so personal. Sorry for the long comment, I could talk about my love for this album for hours.
@@idk-g5o4q check out his post on insta when he released igor he basically said dont listen to this expecting something like fb, cb, wolf, goblin or bastard
Tyler is a producer so the music is a demonstration of his artistry just like his rapping but he seems to focus on the music more this album and it should be appreciated
Now that you’ve listened to yeezus, an interesting fact: Tyler samples the song Kanye samples in Bound 2 on A Boy is a Gun and actually worked on Bound 2 before it was reworked
Earfquake for sure grows on you bro. Now its one of my favourite songs. The reason why there's no intensne cool lyrics or anything is because its not suppose to be anything like that. Its a fun pop catchy song. And Tyler's ear for melody is really evident on it, which is why I love it.
I actually downloaded this album I think the day after it dropped , I'm not gonna lie I thought it was weird , the sound was just not what I knew , I sent it to my friend and told him to keep it , I get it back , he deleted it because he thought it was wack , I never listened to it ever since till this year and I love it , I love the sound , I love the difference , this version of Tyler is just a beautiful one , he has something to say , the first song Igor's theme sounds like the ending of a movie , where the credits go and I like that he made it the first song.
You have to hear this live the song and music is very different and exciting. I also recommend using headphones to see the complexity and the great production in this album.
As always, the first listen isnt always the best listen, there WILL be a moment where you hear a song and “the click” happens where you immediately realize the hype
it's probably the best thing he's ever done as a producer. crazy layering and structure, kinda makes me wish he'd do an instrumental hip hop or plunderphonics record
@@pxlllow oh the brilliance is there no doubt but I don’t see it as a song per say. The first time listening to the album Igor’s Theme gave me the vibe I needed going into to the rest
i dont feel the production is simple... Its certainly a grower over time, I felt the same at first.... Also I couldnt be more impressed with the fact that he arranged and produced this whole project.
Omg i was not expecting you to dislike this album. This is the first and only album I’ve heard from Tyler and it’s my favorite album….I guess I gotta check out his other stuff😭
i think looking at genius lyrics while listening takes away from the experience a little, but just here, and on pop albums where lyrics repeat a lot, without them, the choruses being brought back could be interesting and just a nice experience of sounds that you start humming to yourself, but i do agree, i prefer Cherry Bomb and Flower Boy over this, but all of Tyler's last 4 albums are excellent to me
Album is actually a loop, The Album ends with Are We Still Friends? ultimately just restarting the process of falling in love and getting hurt again. That's why there's a track called, Exactly What you run from, You End Up Chasing.
If you didn’t know this, Are we still friends ends with a synth note that when played with the beginning synth on Igor’s theme loops symbolizing that Tyler falls into a loop over and over again.
Tyler did an interview with Zane Lowe, it's here on RUclips, were he explained his midset at the moment of creating Igor, the references he was pulling from and what he was aiming for with it. It's a very good interview, you might want to check it out. I think it could be sum up to: Tyler's music taste is very informed by 80's pop and R&B records and pop's classics chord progressions. So, with this records, and also in part with Cherry Bomb, he was trying to channel that. Also, his aim was more towards showcasing his skills as a producer and to stablish his value as a musician while trying to stir away a little from the "rapper" label.
Ur my fav channel i really love how much you analyze its not to much at all bc a lot of ppl really dont do that i appreciate your reactions they help me want to go deeper in my own creative outlets
I’d never thought of this as mainstream before. But I can understand your reasons for saying so. Oddly, I found this to be the *most* edgy Tyler I’d ever heard. In part I think that’s because of the character and aesthetic that went along with it. Him in that blond wig, looking like some bizarre 80s flashback. Compared to the rapper version of himself, and compared to hip hop in general, the character and music of IGOR stood out like a sore thumb, and I mean that in a good way. I like other albums of his more, but it’s those, not this one, that I’d consider mainstream. Nothing else sounds like this, from what I’ve heard. Neither from him or anyone else. And to the degree that it sounds like others could have made it, it also doesn’t at all, because I find there’s something deeply discordant throughout the whole album. Regardless, loved your reaction. It’s 4:21am and I’ve spent the last several hours watching your Tyler album reactions. Can hardly wait to get to your Kanye ones. Thanks for putting these out!
I think Tyler's presentation on his music videos for Igor songs adds to its edginess. I think the edge comes from the raw emotions that are not limited by corporate marketable production. Every sound feels like a cry from Tyler himself. Igor is my absolute favorite album in part for that raw presentation.
This was the first of Tyler the creator I listened to and I think it was a great way to get into Tyler’s music. I definitely mainly listened to mainstream pop music before this but after listening to this album I discovered a new era of music for me. When I first listened to this album I thought it was pretty cool but not anything special ( I hadn’t listened to him before so I had nothing to compare it to) , after really listening to it a couple more times I realized just how great this lyrics and sounds were. Because of this album I have found new artists and songs that I connect with so much more like Brent faiyez, childish Gambino,MFDOOM, and Kendrick lamer just to say a few. I have also listened to Tyler’s other albums like cmiygl,flower boy and even some of his old stuff.
Appreciated the album after realizing the story in it. Also after seeing him put out a disclaimer basically saying "this is not bastard, not goblin, not wolf...etc" go into it not expecting normal tyler.
hate the thought of thinking you may fear being attacked by subscribers from giving your honest opinions; glad this wasnt the case. very reasonable takes
the song Exactly What You Run From, You End Up Chasing explains the whole album. like if you don’t like the sonics now, it will eventually grow on you and you’ll end up listening to it over and over again
Ngl I tuned out when you said you're surprised by the lack of surprise, What's different about this album is that its more instrumental than lyrics, I don't know if that just put you off from the jump
“Fast food Tyler”!!! lol wtf. It’s so nuanced and layered. It’s just not a rap album. It says so on the back of the album. It’s a break up album and one of the best break up albums. It’s to be taken for what it is. Definitely a departure from older Tyler and somewhat of a continuation from Flower Boy. Call me if you get lost is a straight up rap album besides Sweet/I thought you wanted to dance.
Watch this if you get the chance: ruclips.net/video/_AR2iJ74Pts/видео.html IGOR was a pivotal moment for this channel in that it showed me I need to listen to an album much more than once. I need to listen to it multiple times, read comments from others, etc, to fully understand what is happening. Because of IGOR, I now spend a full week with each album after my initial listen and then post Additional Thoughts (a great addition imo) a few days later. I missed the mark on IGOR big time during my first listen, and that turned out to be one of the greatest mistakes I've made on this channel 👍
0 seconds ago I think the greatest part about this album is the roller coaster of feelings that the character goes through in this album… if you kinda step back and loon at the songs as a whole you will see a full love story unfold and it is brilliant
What your saying in the intro reminds me of one of Mark Twain’s quotes “truth is stranger than fiction, but it is because fiction is obliged to stick to possibilities, truth isn’t” fucking love that quote, truer words have never been spoken
I HIGHLY recommend listening back to this album with headphones and expecting a story going in, not Tyler. This is Igor’s album, not Tyler’s. Even as someone who loves the sound of death grips, Peggy, Kendrick, and other super experimental artists and honestly hates most pop, this is my favorite album of all time. The story is so compelling and is told in such a perfectly complex way that brings out pure emotion without being too cryptic. It oozes creativity in the range and love put into it all and honestly it’s a miracle that some of the songs got as popular as they did.
I'm glad you liked New Magic Wand, it's my favorite off the album :D I just love how the dark the tone gets in this one and how fucking crazy tyler goes
i personally feel like the albums aren't about tyler, i dont think that igor, flower boy are just album names, i feel like they're a whole another person with just tyler being the "narrator" :D
For context, Tyler likes a boy, but the boy is in a relationship with a girl and Tyler feels like a sidekick. Which explains Igor, Igor is the sidekick of Frankenstein (Edit) also the buzzing that is in the start of Igor's Theme, is also at the end of Are We Still Friends, which means Tyler is going in a loop of if he wants to potentially ruin his life with this boy or be a normal person, but y'all know Tyler ain't normal😅 And btw it's EEE-GOR NOT IY-GOR, and I really think Igor has great potential to be a movie or something, maybe a short film
I didn't know about the reason behind the name Igor, thank you so much! :) I was gonna comment the same thing as you, but I'm sure he has read about it in all the other comments before ours. hahah
@@systemshift that's why I made my comment short so people don't have to read a comment that's longer then the fricken album (Edit) forget what I just said
it makes it so much better that he tries so many avenues (five stages of grief) to try and cope, the first one being to accept being the “side nigga” (but not for a long time)DENIAL , then the next one is to try and kill the ex he’s “competing” with ANGER, the next being to beg for him (the intrest) to not leave him, although ends of making him leave himself BARGAINING, the next being him crawling back to the interest admitting that his their “puppet” SADNESS, then he begins to loose intrest for the intrest and proclaims that their love is gone while reminiscing on the love they had ACCEPTANCE(?), it’s later revealed that tyler was lying to cope with the loss of his intrest and eventually settles for being friends INSANITY. The most interesting part about the album is that: both tyler and his intrest never escaped denial (tyler never accepted that his intrest should be with anyone else beside him, and his interest never accepting his homosexuality and hurting people because of his ego).
the first stage is based off the song that never made it to igor being “BEST INTREST” which in my opinion should have been added along with “BOYFRIEND”
Honestly, it makes me pretty sad that you were scared of what your subscribers would think of your different opinion on this album. Every criticism mentioned in this video was super well elaborated on and justified. Anyways, love your content and it was fun seeing one of my favorite albums of all time perceived from a completely different point of view. Cheers!
I algree. Also, it's quite common for people who follow an artist to dislike a new album (or feel weird about it) after their first listen. After listening to it multiple times, your favorite songs tend to change. I also read in the comment that the author of the video said that he wanted to give the albums a listen for a week or so, in order to give it time to sink in and add more feedback after the initial listen.
Calling this the McDonald's of Tyler is so far off base, I laughed out loud. I know you don't listen to much rap, but there really isn't many artists that could go from an album like Goblin, to something like this. I get why some Tyler fans didn't like the album, but I feel it's mainly because of trying to put him in a box, and saying if he isn't saying something Edgy every song, you aren't going to like it. I personally think he went out and limb, pulled a backflip off, and nailed the landing. 10/10 album
As weird as it may sound, I do appreciate this comment. If it helps at all, this album forever altered the course of this channel. Lots of people told me to listen to this album again because there were too many elements that I had missed or did not understand. I gave it several more listens because of that and came away with a larger appreciation for the album. This has led to me now doing 'Additional Thoughts' videos, where I give albums several more listens after the first reaction, and post additional thoughts a few days later. IGOR still isn't my favorite from Tyler, but I can at least understand what he was doing with it and why so many people love it.
honestly, listening to this with you bumped this album up from a 9 to potentially a 10 in my eyes. i completely understand how someone could not enjoy this record, my original score when it first released was a 1/10. this album has grown on me each listen
@@jackstanfield1265 no joke, keep in mind that this album is over 2 years old, but yeah this record has grown on me more than any other album even had the opportunity to
how could you listen to something like this for the first time and give it a 1 i’ll never understand that, like if you’ve listened to music more than once in your life you could at least tell that there’s real artistry and effort put into this that would make it anything other than a 1
@@pippywondergirl i don’t know, and this was at a time where i was a huge tyler fan even back then. i think it was a mix of disappointment and confusion. i don’t think it made sense to me at the time
The difference between this album and the rest is about here we have not TYLER at all, we got IGOR instead, same as in call me ifygl, we have BAUDELAIRE in the vocals, I love how this guy moves from a character to another. Seeing this moves in live is pure magic.
Hey Bob, I don't know if anyone else has said this, but A BOY IS A GUN uses the same sample as Bound 2, off of Yeezus. People sometimes refer to it as "Bound 3"
with tyler’s voice in this album it is pitched up a little higher. he mentions in interviews that his voice is too low and that he cannot sing, so he pitches his voice up in production, he does it a lot in his cherry bomb album
I feel like in this album he is using the igor anology to tell a story of a guy who loves a man who's infatuated with a woman. Making igor the third wheel. And because igor doesn't have the mental faculties to properly process his feelings he just constantly repeats the smaller elements of those feelings in his head (explaining the constant repetition of lines). And is why his love for the guy almost sounds like one of subservience as opposed to loving his equal Also with your comment about Tyler wants to fall in love. I agree but I think the igor character doesn't want to because in his brain the guy he loves is the only man he's loyal to.
I've listened to Cherry Bomb (though no reaction to it, wasn't dialed into full albums just yet then), and I really like it. Lots of heavy distortion and crazy beats. Great album imo
Igor To me is just so much more than just an album you really can’t put it in just one genre of music I like almost every track on the album one song I dislike or rather find it lacking compared to the other songs the story it tells the RnB influence the synths I don’t even know where to start the production on it could very well be it’s own thing Tyler really out did himself with this album 12 songs was just the right amount of songs needed to make this album simple yet so complicated at the same time if you really break this album down not only for the story it tells but it’s sound and production you could argue this is not a rap album or a RnB album or an album of one genre this is not rap it’s a form of art and imo is one of the most simple yet complicated records I’ve listened to and that’s because it has no category and to accomplish that as an artist that went from goofy smart and offensive but catchy lyrics to Making something like this is incredible and needs to be studied
i would love to see your reaction to some of his older stuff like bastard or goblin because its pretty different. i love all typer albums but there is something there about the pre-cherry bomb era
No country for old men is a movie i stumbled upon, great movie. Correct me if im wrong but i noticed there was no soundtrack/music in that movie and it made it more eery in my opinion
For that bit at the beginning about if "this one isn't popular he wasn't gonna make it" he said that about flower boy after cherry bomb had a bad reaction
So Tylers gone on record saying numerous times that his voice isn’t suited for the music he really wants to make. So this albums probably the closest he’s gotten to making that thing he really wants to make. Hence the distorted pitched voice.
I appreciate this guy's insight but I do think he misses out on how a lot of songs/albums are intended to be listened to by pausing during the middle of songs/albums. Certain albums and songs are meant to be listened to straight through and even Tyler suggested that for this album.
@@INCRYPTIDFORM if we’re being honest if having what 20% of rap in an album is enough to win a RAP ALBUM GRAMMY then somethings wrong igor is not rap everyone knows this it’s a great album of one my personal favs, but it’s a slap in the face of the RAP genre to have it win the category when there’s barely any rap.
@@theminecraftjester1738 no disrespect but he’s only in that box because he’s a black guy when mgk released a rock album everyone called it rock and that guys been rapping just as long as tyler the only difference is he’s white
As a huge Tyler fan I was expecting more rap on this album. So I thought he was trying to make a NERD album. Then I went through a breakup and this album played differently. 10/10
TIMESTAMPS
IGOR'S THEME- 3:48
EARFQUAKE- 7:17
I THINK- 12:53
EXACTLY WHAT YOU RUN FROM YOU END UP CHASING- 17:04
RUNNING OUT OF TIME- 17:19
NEW MAGIC WAND- 21:50
A BOY IS A GUN*- 27:22
PUPPET- 32:35
WHAT'S GOOD- 35:57
GONE, GONE / THANK YOU- 41:10
I DON'T LOVE YOU ANYMORE- 48:04
ARE WE STILL FRIENDS?- 53:25
the igor slander is real in this video
All of the internet points to you, my friend!
45:56 thank you
@@bobthepoppop fyi since u have done chapters before you can always add these comments with timestamps post in ur description and it will automatically create chapters. Great when you have new members coming in like me!
@@Melbeezo literally just the overratted part of gone,gone/thankyou
@@PpioLoshia gone, gone is lowkey better than thank you
this is my favorite album of all time. i love how unique the music is and how it blends so many genres into one amazing project. that’s not even mentioning the amazing story it tells throughout each track. everything about this album is perfect.
same
Definitely up in my top 5
YUP. Especially on vinyl so you get the track "Boyfriend". Igor is 11/10
@@BrandonWilliamson I was so confused when it came on
@@eddy1676 Same. Was making dinner and smking a jay the night I got it on vinyl, didnt even look at the track list. Wife and I were jamming in a new dimension to this new banger on an already perfect album
When I first heard this album I didn’t like it. I wanted to hear him RAP and I wanted something crazy from him that I could relate. Then I played it again and realized just how special it is to have someone tell me a story about something I’ve never experienced (having to justify your love for someone and eventually losing yourself & your feelings for them bc they struggle to accept themselves, their sexuality and you by extension) and that’s when I realized how much more beautiful, emotional and impactful it was. I really understood what Tyler was telling me even though that’s nothing like my experiences, few have been able to do that for me. Love this album.
It is good not to lock yourself up in terms of tastes, you feel freer. Tyler tells us a story and it has a real background that usually happens in life in general. Musically it is a masterpiece.
@@bautilima8057 true. But some people just don’t like listening to some things. I liked some songs on here…then others grew on me.
I was the same about this album, and ive been a fan since Bastard
I am always a sucker for a concept album and this story is soooo good. He tells it through the music so well. I love that you can tell the story so easily from just the lyrics and the feel of the songs progressing
Tyler said himself, "Don't go into this expecting a Rap Album. Don't go into this expecting any Album. JUST GO, JUMP INTO IT." 19:50
Exactly!! I'm not gonna lie I lime his videos but when he said I'm surprised by the lack of surprise I had to pause this shit 😅, This was my album of the decade, please note that I said MY lol
I would suggest listening to this album again with headphones. Way different experience and great layering
This. he needs headphones he’s missing out.
@@damarkomoore5236 he has had headphones for a while now
@@super6070 but he didn’t listen with them on in this review
I liked your description about Earfquake having that “mainstream” sound. He actually made that song for Rhianna and Justin Bieber so you’re spot-on with the song feeling mainstream tbh.
What do u mean like he wrote it for them?
@@user-du3yr8ld7i he wrote it for them and they both declined to use it
@@user-du3yr8ld7i artists write songs for other artists all the time, Justin Bieber for example doesn't write his own songs, people do it for him including other artists
justin would've killed earfquake ngl.
@@kyraea77 oh 100%
It’s his most pop album for sure, but it’s done on Tyler’s terms and that’s what makes it unique and why so many people love this album. Definitely a foray from his typical style, but it was an important chapter in his story and to many has been the pinnacle of his career. The reaction you had was that of many diehard Tyler fans at the time. It didn’t sound like Tyler, he was singing, it wasn’t what his biggest fans wanted or expected. I remember the night it released and seeing the response, it was ugly at first, but as the days went on people came to love it. He is called Tyler the creator, not Tyler the rapper. This isn’t a rap album and it can’t be confined to any label or genre, it’s unique and this uniqueness is why many consider Igor to be Tyler’s best work.
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I saw the college dropout video and now I'm a fan , the story was super funny and i love ur channel
Same !
I don’t know where I remember hearing this from, but you were right about saying that Tyler is just going to fall in love again, because at the end of the final track of the album, it ends off with a synth cord, that is reminiscent to the synth in the opening track, which signifies that the albums is kind of loop, all the stuff that happened to Tyler throughout the album just repeats, because Tyler’s love will just keep him chasing the person he is in love with. Hope this helps you understand the story of the album a bit more.
ruclips.net/video/w9Du1MEvXHw/видео.html
It's not just "reminiscent", it intentionally resolves the unresolved chord from the ending
Holy shit I didn’t notice this until now
This is just a story but e
last song ends on a bad note, first song concludes it. First song then starts again, creating the infinite loop
Incredible album production wise. Might be one of the greatest produced albums of our generation.
i think its one of the best produced albums ever
For a « rap » album you would say ? Im a huge fan of Tyler and Igor is one of my favorite album (got it on vinyl), but bro there are thousand of amazing albums every year
@@hjkkghjk6988 This isn’t even a rap album lmao
@@ianprescott7924 Of course it is, Tyler’s rapping on it
@@hjkkghjk6988 just cause there’s some rap verses, it doesn’t mean it’s a rap album
finishes earfquake:
Bob: I want some tyler vocal action
Hahha yeah wtf
17:43 i think the whole album is about how he falls inlove with someone and then keeps on going for that person but at the end where he doesnt make it he asks „Are we still friends?“ and the bass at the end of the song transitions back into igors theme meaning its an loop for him, falling in love, chasing for it, and then not making it but still wants to have some connection
I can understand your lukewarm feelings on this album, personally i love It, but I'll say:
Igor is a character on this album, it's his story and there's less of Tyler's usual tone because of that (that's the reason for the pitched up voice, besides wanting to make his singing more melodic)
The tracks are all feeling based and production focused, because Tyler wanted to flex his producing skills like he had been on Flower Boy, but taking the focus off his persona to appeal to other mainstream artists and say "Hey, i could do this for you"
I remember him saying that he even wanted Justin Bieber on Earfquake.
But imo, the album is still uniquely Tyler even with all the Pop/Soul/RnB influences, it's just more subtle and meant to be absorbed as an experience.
But i absolutely respect your reaction, i hope to see more in the future with different artists.
1:01:30 also no, that was Flower Boy, which was after Cherry Bomb, Tyler felt pushed by the negative perception and wanted to make something that was way cleaner, which is what Flower Boy was.
I'm happy so many people took the time to explain why they enjoy this one so much. There were so many elements that I missed on the first listen. I honestly think it's basically impossible to "get it" all in one, initial listen. It's subtle, but there are a lot of layers working together in this album. I can understand why people love it, just not quite my jam is all. Thanks for the great comment :)
@@bobthepoppop
Absolutely, i loved seeing your reactions and your open mindedness is commendable, keep it up!
IGOR is easily the best album of 2019 in terms of production
The Sailor by Rich Brian is a really close second tho
both a masterpiece.
would love to see his reaction to The Sailor
I understand that it’s not your favorite Tyler album but I think it’s his masterpiece. It was meant to be listened to front to back in one listen and that’s exactly how I did it. Which I think really benefits it as a story and cohesive project. I was in basic training when it was realized and I hadn’t heard music in 4 months prior to listening to it. I finally got my phone and headphones back in AIT and I could not believe how amazing it was. Maybe it was due to not listening to music for so long, but I still hear it the same way I did when I first listened to it. It is such a cohesive and well thought out project from someone that wanted to challenge themself and I think he exceeded with flying colors. Expectations might have ruined the album for some but I was so happy to hear Tyler expand his sound and release something so personal. Sorry for the long comment, I could talk about my love for this album for hours.
you did what he told everybody not to do.. but naturally, we're going to expect to hear a familiar Tyler. Once you get past that, it's a great album.
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What did he tell everyone not to do?
@@idk-g5o4q basically that this album is nothing like the past albums and listen to it with new ears, all the way through with no interruption
@@idk-g5o4q check out his post on insta when he released igor he basically said dont listen to this expecting something like fb, cb, wolf, goblin or bastard
Tyler is a producer so the music is a demonstration of his artistry just like his rapping but he seems to focus on the music more this album and it should be appreciated
Now that you’ve listened to yeezus, an interesting fact:
Tyler samples the song Kanye samples in Bound 2 on A Boy is a Gun and actually worked on Bound 2 before it was reworked
Earfquake for sure grows on you bro. Now its one of my favourite songs. The reason why there's no intensne cool lyrics or anything is because its not suppose to be anything like that. Its a fun pop catchy song. And Tyler's ear for melody is really evident on it, which is why I love it.
Mind you this whole album literally gets better on each listen, trust me. And its so easy to listen to.
I actually downloaded this album I think the day after it dropped , I'm not gonna lie I thought it was weird , the sound was just not what I knew , I sent it to my friend and told him to keep it , I get it back , he deleted it because he thought it was wack , I never listened to it ever since till this year and I love it , I love the sound , I love the difference , this version of Tyler is just a beautiful one , he has something to say , the first song Igor's theme sounds like the ending of a movie , where the credits go and I like that he made it the first song.
doesn’t igor’s theme kinda remind you of the THX movie sound??
@@quinncyisqueer I had to legit go search that and yeah , I heard it , maybe he sampled some parts of it.
Cool story bro lol
You have to hear this live the song and music is very different and exciting. I also recommend using headphones to see the complexity and the great production in this album.
As always, the first listen isnt always the best listen, there WILL be a moment where you hear a song and “the click” happens where you immediately realize the hype
igors theme is the best track on the album imo but no one ever really mentions it
it's probably the best thing he's ever done as a producer. crazy layering and structure, kinda makes me wish he'd do an instrumental hip hop or plunderphonics record
@@xbenci I couldn't agree more
It’s more of a tone setter imo
@@popswoo680 sure but that doesnt take away from its brilliance
@@pxlllow oh the brilliance is there no doubt but I don’t see it as a song per say. The first time listening to the album Igor’s Theme gave me the vibe I needed going into to the rest
i dont feel the production is simple... Its certainly a grower over time, I felt the same at first.... Also I couldnt be more impressed with the fact that he arranged and produced this whole project.
Calling the production simple is definitely… a take
Omg i was not expecting you to dislike this album. This is the first and only album I’ve heard from Tyler and it’s my favorite album….I guess I gotta check out his other stuff😭
i think looking at genius lyrics while listening takes away from the experience a little, but just here, and on pop albums where lyrics repeat a lot, without them, the choruses being brought back could be interesting and just a nice experience of sounds that you start humming to yourself, but i do agree, i prefer Cherry Bomb and Flower Boy over this, but all of Tyler's last 4 albums are excellent to me
What about goblin?😂
@@NotParky we don’t talk about goblin
Completely agree, having lyrics up just ruins the experience especially how he starts reading before the verse even starts like bro
@@younglord2140it didnt ruin his experience w blonde so idk what you tryna say
Album is actually a loop, The Album ends with Are We Still Friends? ultimately just restarting the process of falling in love and getting hurt again. That's why there's a track called, Exactly What you run from, You End Up Chasing.
If you didn’t know this, Are we still friends ends with a synth note that when played with the beginning synth on Igor’s theme loops symbolizing that Tyler falls into a loop over and over again.
Tyler did an interview with Zane Lowe, it's here on RUclips, were he explained his midset at the moment of creating Igor, the references he was pulling from and what he was aiming for with it. It's a very good interview, you might want to check it out.
I think it could be sum up to: Tyler's music taste is very informed by 80's pop and R&B records and pop's classics chord progressions. So, with this records, and also in part with Cherry Bomb, he was trying to channel that. Also, his aim was more towards showcasing his skills as a producer and to stablish his value as a musician while trying to stir away a little from the "rapper" label.
Ur my fav channel i really love how much you analyze its not to much at all bc a lot of ppl really dont do that i appreciate your reactions they help me want to go deeper in my own creative outlets
I’d never thought of this as mainstream before. But I can understand your reasons for saying so. Oddly, I found this to be the *most* edgy Tyler I’d ever heard. In part I think that’s because of the character and aesthetic that went along with it. Him in that blond wig, looking like some bizarre 80s flashback. Compared to the rapper version of himself, and compared to hip hop in general, the character and music of IGOR stood out like a sore thumb, and I mean that in a good way. I like other albums of his more, but it’s those, not this one, that I’d consider mainstream. Nothing else sounds like this, from what I’ve heard. Neither from him or anyone else. And to the degree that it sounds like others could have made it, it also doesn’t at all, because I find there’s something deeply discordant throughout the whole album.
Regardless, loved your reaction. It’s 4:21am and I’ve spent the last several hours watching your Tyler album reactions. Can hardly wait to get to your Kanye ones. Thanks for putting these out!
I think Tyler's presentation on his music videos for Igor songs adds to its edginess. I think the edge comes from the raw emotions that are not limited by corporate marketable production. Every sound feels like a cry from Tyler himself. Igor is my absolute favorite album in part for that raw presentation.
This was the first of Tyler the creator I listened to and I think it was a great way to get into Tyler’s music. I definitely mainly listened to mainstream pop music before this but after listening to this album I discovered a new era of music for me. When I first listened to this album I thought it was pretty cool but not anything special ( I hadn’t listened to him before so I had nothing to compare it to) , after really listening to it a couple more times I realized just how great this lyrics and sounds were. Because of this album I have found new artists and songs that I connect with so much more like Brent faiyez, childish Gambino,MFDOOM, and Kendrick lamer just to say a few. I have also listened to Tyler’s other albums like cmiygl,flower boy and even some of his old stuff.
Appreciated the album after realizing the story in it. Also after seeing him put out a disclaimer basically saying "this is not bastard, not goblin, not wolf...etc" go into it not expecting normal tyler.
calling this the mcdonalds of tyler albums gotta be one of the most insulting things i've ever heard. i respect it. love this dude.
This video is so chill. Props to you
hate the thought of thinking you may fear being attacked by subscribers from giving your honest opinions; glad this wasnt the case. very reasonable takes
I think the production is really amazing, but the narrative of the entire album is really what makes this work so popular with the fan base
the song Exactly What You Run From, You End Up Chasing explains the whole album.
like if you don’t like the sonics now, it will eventually grow on you and you’ll end up listening to it over and over again
Ngl I tuned out when you said you're surprised by the lack of surprise, What's different about this album is that its more instrumental than lyrics, I don't know if that just put you off from the jump
You got the two best. Kendrick and Tyler. Revolutionaries
“Fast food Tyler”!!! lol wtf. It’s so nuanced and layered. It’s just not a rap album. It says so on the back of the album. It’s a break up album and one of the best break up albums. It’s to be taken for what it is. Definitely a departure from older Tyler and somewhat of a continuation from Flower Boy. Call me if you get lost is a straight up rap album besides Sweet/I thought you wanted to dance.
Watch this if you get the chance: ruclips.net/video/_AR2iJ74Pts/видео.html
IGOR was a pivotal moment for this channel in that it showed me I need to listen to an album much more than once. I need to listen to it multiple times, read comments from others, etc, to fully understand what is happening. Because of IGOR, I now spend a full week with each album after my initial listen and then post Additional Thoughts (a great addition imo) a few days later. I missed the mark on IGOR big time during my first listen, and that turned out to be one of the greatest mistakes I've made on this channel 👍
@@bobthepoppop respectable reply👍. Loving the content man
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I think the greatest part about this album is the roller coaster of feelings that the character goes through in this album… if you kinda step back and loon at the songs as a whole you will see a full love story unfold and it is brilliant
Bob you really are a great dude, keep the content going, glad to see this channel grow
Omg I’ve listened to this song sooooo many times and didn’t even notice the bass tell u mentions it earfquake is amazing
What your saying in the intro reminds me of one of Mark Twain’s quotes “truth is stranger than fiction, but it is because fiction is obliged to stick to possibilities, truth isn’t” fucking love that quote, truer words have never been spoken
I HIGHLY recommend listening back to this album with headphones and expecting a story going in, not Tyler. This is Igor’s album, not Tyler’s. Even as someone who loves the sound of death grips, Peggy, Kendrick, and other super experimental artists and honestly hates most pop, this is my favorite album of all time. The story is so compelling and is told in such a perfectly complex way that brings out pure emotion without being too cryptic. It oozes creativity in the range and love put into it all and honestly it’s a miracle that some of the songs got as popular as they did.
I love this account tho, I’ll be watching many vids. Here before 30k!
I'm glad you liked New Magic Wand, it's my favorite off the album :D
I just love how the dark the tone gets in this one and how fucking crazy tyler goes
If this is the fast food of Tyler the creater, then cherry bomb is like eating a thumb tack
LMFAO
i personally feel like the albums aren't about tyler, i dont think that igor, flower boy are just album names, i feel like they're a whole another person with just tyler being the "narrator" :D
well you may personally feel like that but they are about tyler
For context, Tyler likes a boy, but the boy is in a relationship with a girl and Tyler feels like a sidekick. Which explains Igor, Igor is the sidekick of Frankenstein
(Edit) also the buzzing that is in the start of Igor's Theme, is also at the end of Are We Still Friends, which means Tyler is going in a loop of if he wants to potentially ruin his life with this boy or be a normal person, but y'all know Tyler ain't normal😅
And btw it's EEE-GOR NOT IY-GOR, and I really think Igor has great potential to be a movie or something, maybe a short film
I didn't know about the reason behind the name Igor, thank you so much! :)
I was gonna comment the same thing as you, but I'm sure he has read about it in all the other comments before ours. hahah
@@systemshift that's why I made my comment short so people don't have to read a comment that's longer then the fricken album
(Edit) forget what I just said
@@m4j1k LMAOOOO it's okay, your response made me smile, and seeing you edit it has made my day as well.
You have a point so go for it my dude!
it makes it so much better that he tries so many avenues (five stages of grief) to try and cope, the first one being to accept being the “side nigga” (but not for a long time)DENIAL , then the next one is to try and kill the ex he’s “competing” with ANGER, the next being to beg for him (the intrest) to not leave him, although ends of making him leave himself BARGAINING, the next being him crawling back to the interest admitting that his their “puppet” SADNESS, then he begins to loose intrest for the intrest and proclaims that their love is gone while reminiscing on the love they had ACCEPTANCE(?), it’s later revealed that tyler was lying to cope with the loss of his intrest and eventually settles for being friends INSANITY. The most interesting part about the album is that: both tyler and his intrest never escaped denial (tyler never accepted that his intrest should be with anyone else beside him, and his interest never accepting his homosexuality and hurting people because of his ego).
the first stage is based off the song that never made it to igor being “BEST INTREST” which in my opinion should have been added along with “BOYFRIEND”
Honestly, it makes me pretty sad that you were scared of what your subscribers would think of your different opinion on this album. Every criticism mentioned in this video was super well elaborated on and justified. Anyways, love your content and it was fun seeing one of my favorite albums of all time perceived from a completely different point of view. Cheers!
Minion fart gun hahah
I algree. Also, it's quite common for people who follow an artist to dislike a new album (or feel weird about it) after their first listen.
After listening to it multiple times, your favorite songs tend to change.
I also read in the comment that the author of the video said that he wanted to give the albums a listen for a week or so, in order to give it time to sink in and add more feedback after the initial listen.
the mcdonalds of tyler 😭
is there your igor reaction video somewhere?
@@user-se2hh5xw2oshe listened to some albums off
Where is your igor reaction 😢😢😢
@KortezDo she listened to it before her channel was a thing
@@KumoHs awww man
Calling this the McDonald's of Tyler is so far off base, I laughed out loud. I know you don't listen to much rap, but there really isn't many artists that could go from an album like Goblin, to something like this. I get why some Tyler fans didn't like the album, but I feel it's mainly because of trying to put him in a box, and saying if he isn't saying something Edgy every song, you aren't going to like it. I personally think he went out and limb, pulled a backflip off, and nailed the landing. 10/10 album
As weird as it may sound, I do appreciate this comment. If it helps at all, this album forever altered the course of this channel. Lots of people told me to listen to this album again because there were too many elements that I had missed or did not understand. I gave it several more listens because of that and came away with a larger appreciation for the album. This has led to me now doing 'Additional Thoughts' videos, where I give albums several more listens after the first reaction, and post additional thoughts a few days later. IGOR still isn't my favorite from Tyler, but I can at least understand what he was doing with it and why so many people love it.
@@bobthepoppop appreciate the honesty, I'll give the follow up video a watch, been enjoying your content. Keep at it.
This is by far his most unique album.
im so happy yt allowed this
Enjoy it while you can. My Kendrick Lamar video was blocked again :(
I'll attempt to sort it out (again) this weekend.
honestly, listening to this with you bumped this album up from a 9 to potentially a 10 in my eyes. i completely understand how someone could not enjoy this record, my original score when it first released was a 1/10. this album has grown on me each listen
You went from a 1 to a 10?
@@jackstanfield1265 no joke, keep in mind that this album is over 2 years old, but yeah this record has grown on me more than any other album even had the opportunity to
how could you listen to something like this for the first time and give it a 1 i’ll never understand that, like if you’ve listened to music more than once in your life you could at least tell that there’s real artistry and effort put into this that would make it anything other than a 1
i worded that rudely i’m just curious
@@pippywondergirl i don’t know, and this was at a time where i was a huge tyler fan even back then. i think it was a mix of disappointment and confusion. i don’t think it made sense to me at the time
I love old country for old men IMO it has the best villan of all time
Agreed, Javier Bardem was absolutely terrifying
The difference between this album and the rest is about here we have not TYLER at all, we got IGOR instead, same as in call me ifygl, we have BAUDELAIRE in the vocals, I love how this guy moves from a character to another. Seeing this moves in live is pure magic.
This one sampled a lot from 70s songs, and it being a softer album adds different facet to his discography.
your opinion has probably changed a little by now but it’s crazy to me how u didn’t enjoy and appreciate the production and the story as much
I know what your problem is with Igor. You like BARS. Bars, and bars! You need that rap, dawg, you need baaaaars
igor is tylers album form expression of strained love, heartbreak, and acceptance⁉️
Hey Bob, I don't know if anyone else has said this, but A BOY IS A GUN uses the same sample as Bound 2, off of Yeezus. People sometimes refer to it as "Bound 3"
this dude reacts to tyler saying the word 'love' like a fucking test subject trained to laugh everytime fr
disappointed you didn’t really like this one, it’s my favorite album of all time 😅. but i totally understand where you’re coming from
Man, I wish I could experience this album for the first time again
Your opening made it very hard to stop the video. Good job sir 👏🏾
he does litearlly sing almost all of earfquake except for that short verse by carti, the voice is just heavily edited
with tyler’s voice in this album it is pitched up a little higher. he mentions in interviews that his voice is too low and that he cannot sing, so he pitches his voice up in production, he does it a lot in his cherry bomb album
Love the occasional chuckle
So Tyler made an Instagram post that basically read “for Igor, I want you to listen with new ears. This album is nothing like my past works.”
I feel like in this album he is using the igor anology to tell a story of a guy who loves a man who's infatuated with a woman. Making igor the third wheel. And because igor doesn't have the mental faculties to properly process his feelings he just constantly repeats the smaller elements of those feelings in his head (explaining the constant repetition of lines).
And is why his love for the guy almost sounds like one of subservience as opposed to loving his equal
Also with your comment about Tyler wants to fall in love. I agree but I think the igor character doesn't want to because in his brain the guy he loves is the only man he's loyal to.
This is my favourite Tyler project
you should 100% listen to cherrybomb soon! It has some lows but it has some great grungy beats on some songs.
I've listened to Cherry Bomb (though no reaction to it, wasn't dialed into full albums just yet then), and I really like it. Lots of heavy distortion and crazy beats. Great album imo
the whole story is about love thats the entire point of the album. it goes thru all of the stages of love on purpose
Ironically as someone who doesn't enjoy rap, It's songs like these from Tyler that stray from that -- that ended up making me a fan XD
thats literally an album about a love relationship ofc he’s singing about love
"One of my favourite movies of all time is No Country for Old Men" Aaaand I already liked
Igor To me is just so much more than just an album you really can’t put it in just one genre of music I like almost every track on the album one song I dislike or rather find it lacking compared to the other songs the story it tells the RnB influence the synths I don’t even know where to start the production on it could very well be it’s own thing Tyler really out did himself with this album 12 songs was just the right amount of songs needed to make this album simple yet so complicated at the same time if you really break this album down not only for the story it tells but it’s sound and production you could argue this is not a rap album or a RnB album or an album of one genre this is not rap it’s a form of art and imo is one of the most simple yet complicated records I’ve listened to and that’s because it has no category and to accomplish that as an artist that went from goofy smart and offensive but catchy lyrics to Making something like this is incredible and needs to be studied
well said
The story is incredible, I suggest watching TennisThom's video on this album. Really makes you understand why the album is one of the best of all time
i would love to see your reaction to some of his older stuff like bastard or goblin because its pretty different. i love all typer albums but there is something there about the pre-cherry bomb era
Mortal sin 1- listening to Tyler without headphones- ESPECIALLY WITH IGOR!!
This album was a vocal experiment, you're right. It all started from Flowerboy, but in this one he was focused on it.
No country for old men is a movie i stumbled upon, great movie. Correct me if im wrong but i noticed there was no soundtrack/music in that movie and it made it more eery in my opinion
UZI DA GOAT FOR THAT INTRO
Tyler has a song for every relationship situation I get in
Me thinking about Wilshire: 🤨
It’s back
Yup! I filed a bunch of disputes this morning, and it has (temporarily) lifted the blocks. We'll see if it holds or not. I really hope it does.
@@bobthepoppop fingers crossed
Been 1 week still up!
i’m shocked bob called igor the mcdonalds of tyler
For that bit at the beginning about if "this one isn't popular he wasn't gonna make it" he said that about flower boy after cherry bomb had a bad reaction
So Tylers gone on record saying numerous times that his voice isn’t suited for the music he really wants to make. So this albums probably the closest he’s gotten to making that thing he really wants to make. Hence the distorted pitched voice.
I appreciate this guy's insight but I do think he misses out on how a lot of songs/albums are intended to be listened to by pausing during the middle of songs/albums. Certain albums and songs are meant to be listened to straight through and even Tyler suggested that for this album.
for example there is a song transition between earthquake and the following song, but he pauses directly in the middle of the beat transition.
On are we still friends: " With different sounds coming in and out, this is the first song that's had this "
Igor is also kind of an alter ego. so that explains the difference in the pitch of his voice, he's channeling igor´s personality and sound.
i definitely didn't like the album when it first came out but overtime it has become my favorite.
I have to admit you’re brave for speaking your honest opinion
no country for old man was filmed on and near my ranch in new mexico, specifically the gas station and the motel
Tyler is the only one that can win Best Rap Album without even Rapping
Only because he’s black igor wasn’t rap everyone knows this It definitely deserved a grammy but not for that category.
@@damarkomoore5236 Fr
There’s rap elements so I understand why it was considered a rap album, plus his older albums were mostly rap
@@INCRYPTIDFORM if we’re being honest if having what 20% of rap in an album is enough to win a RAP ALBUM GRAMMY then somethings wrong igor is not rap everyone knows this it’s a great album of one my personal favs, but it’s a slap in the face of the RAP genre to have it win the category when there’s barely any rap.
@@theminecraftjester1738 no disrespect but he’s only in that box because he’s a black guy when mgk released a rock album everyone called it rock and that guys been rapping just as long as tyler the only difference is he’s white
No country for old men is my favorite movie of all time too
As a huge Tyler fan I was expecting more rap on this album. So I thought he was trying to make a NERD album. Then I went through a breakup and this album played differently. 10/10