Multiplication⎮Miraculous Ladybug Season 5 Review
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- Опубликовано: 28 сен 2024
- It's always a nice feeling when you actually get a consistent release schedule for Miraculous Ladybug. It's like finding a hidden oasis in the middle of a desert. And so coming into this episode, whilst I was a bit apprehensive.... I was also kinda hyped. And i'll be real..... this episode lived up to that hype. It set up a lot of plot points for the season and has laid down a lot of good early groundwork. Let's hope the rest can live up to it.
Adrian: "Father, I don't want to be a model anymore!"
Gabriel: creates Adrian 3D NFT 😂👌
To be fair, all Su-Han did was complain about how bad Ladybug and Catnoir were. He kept yelling and saying they had no experience, so why the heck didn’t he train them?
It's not on him Ladybug literally got offended when he showed up to claim the box because she couldn't stand idea of not being suitable protector of it. He had reasons to assume she was trained when she was picked by Fu himself and then she threw a tantrum, he trusted her and she failed him because she's actually not this responsible as she claimed to be.
He had actual reasons to be angry his trust was broken and some criminal took all miraculouses that are capable of even ending the world, Ladybug and Cat Nior should have shown some remorse instead of trying to gaslight him.
@@papkinn I mean, he *did* behave like an A** in his first Episode, but I can kinda understand that.
Fu left a lovestruck Teenager in charge of what is basically a Box full of magical Superweapons.
Imagine what would happen if they get lost!
Imagine what would happen if the Kwami go exploring Paris without an Owner!
I would be worried too.
@@johannesseyfried7933 Correct. But after he came to know, that Fu didn't had train them, shouldn't he said something like "Alright. I will do, what Fu should have done. I will train you and Cat Noir." And if i remember correctly, wasn't his whole purpouse to hunt down renegade Miraculous user? In that case, Gabriel should definitly be in his area of responsibility to seek him and bring him down. I found the way, they wrote him out of the show a little bit lame.
@@Anthyrion Yes, definitely.
Don't introduce a more seasoned and powerful Fighter into your Story, that could help out your Heroes, and then don't have him do exactly that!
Or....at least give us a reason for why they can't!
With Bunnyx, it makes Sense. She's from the Future! She presumably has Bad Guys in her own Time that she needs to catch.
Not to mention that her helping them might lead to a Time Paradox.
So, I can understand why *She* cannot help them, unless it's time related stuff.
But the Guardians? Even if they can't come all (the other Boxes still need protection after all) they could at least send People other than Su Hu.
If he taught either of them how to repel Akumas, Marinette wouldn't have to worry about Cat Blanc- not that she really ever has all that much.
But, I mean....surely it can be useful, right? There's no Indication that Hawk Moth's weird Mega Akuma could overpower a trained Guardian, considering that they don't have a magical Shield but simply calm themselves.
The Akumas can't infect somebody if there are no strong Emotions.
@@papkinn exactly
I agree with you,if Felix is in contact with Monarch then this narrows the possibility of who Monarch is by quite a lot. From what I can tell, Monarch has to be a man who knows Felix somewhat personally and lives in Paris most likely.
Isn’t Gabe Monarch
@@Argosentral-88 yeah,I'm just listing out the traits Monarch has in the show that the heroes should be looking for.
Ikari gozen actually became smaller if you rewatch the scene and look closely she becomes slightly smaller. She didn’t make enough copies to the point where her size wasn’t useful anymore. Also I think the Adrien trying to kiss Mari also just showcasts the French culture I guess. It’s not all too weird to be kissing each other on the cheek like Chloe and Mari did in despair bear or even when Mari kissed adrien on the cheek during the birthday episode. It is a bit weird he keeps trying but that’s something close friends would do in France I guess idk
Yeah but the implications are different because:
Opposite sex
Marinette and Adrien have known each other a while and he just started doing this as a way of greeting, instead of on a special occasion like a party
it's Adrien. He doesn't do this for anyone bc he doesn't know how to people 😭
But yeah it still wouldn't be too weird if he started doing it to Marinette,but ONLY to Marinette? Yeah. Especially when he's bound to realize she likes him...eventually.
Still..
See, imagine that you don't like me as your close friend to put my hand over your shoulder.
You're obviously giving me a hint that you don't want me to do that, but I keep trying..
Pushy right?
Adrien was probably like "all these years of hard work... AND I COULD HAVE JUST ASKED?!" Haha
I think the only thing I disliked about this episode was the sniveling, and inexplicably spineless, Su Han😑
Bruh
His existence is pointless now. The worst case scenerio happened and he basically relented because modern day France is distracting which isn't an excuse to make up for LB's failure. She fought for being in charge and she was given the reigns with the condition being if she screwed up she has to stop being Guardian.
And I blame Thomas for this. Realistically speaking, Suhan is written like a stereotypical Asian elder. 99.9% of the time they won’t even admit that they’re wrong, let alone apologizing for something that they’re right about. So this really looks like OOC to me.
@@dictatormeow2764 finally someone said it 👍👏
I find the Su han scenes to be cringe in that episode
Felix is so smart that even LB and CN still don't think that he is evil.
That's not really being "smart". Felix didn't do anything in this instance. It was them coming to the wrong conclusion.
That's not very hard now, is it?
Or it's just lb an cn are stupid
No that just them being dumb and gullible
I wanna see Adrien try out Felix's spy monocle. Unless the writers forgot he found it in Gabriel's office.
Normally I'm with you on most points, but not Su Han this time. Him showing up to bust their balls, especially now is unneeded and out of line.
Marinette is literally doing the best she can and is the only reason Su Han is even around to snipe at her, having been trained by a master who likely didn't even complete his own training (Fu was still a child when the temple went under due to their own foolish training methods). Instead of harping on how inadequate she supposedly is, his job was to assess her current situation and offer up supplementary training where she was lacking...y'know, like an actual mentor would do. While I can 100% relate to wasting time on cat vids and modern comforts, he has 1000% been slacking on his duties and honestly should be lending a hand to track down Gabe, whoop his ass and recover the Kwami. But hopping his ass back to Tibet for backup is a good start.
On the whole Adrien trying to kiss Marinette thing: that's actually just a way to greet people in France. I'm Spanish and we do the same thing too (heck I have done it with people who I don't even know that well and even family members I just met lol). That's why Alya is trying to get her to take it, she's trying to get her to act like a normal person instead of being awkward af (I couldn't imagine doing what Marinette does here lmao would probably come off as rude).
Still, Adrien shouldn’t have attempted to kiss her again and again, when it was clear she was uncomfortable with it the first time. In my country, before COVID, we kissed on the cheek as greeting to family members or colleagues too, sometimes on the mouth even. But I’m a very socially awkward person, so sometimes I refuse to do it, and if that makes me come off as impolite, so be it. I have the right to not consent to being touched. Adrien and Mari aren’t strangers, they’re friends, and I know Adrien is not that socially smart, but Mari was dropping clear hints that she was comfortable, and the fact he only decided to kiss her really disproves the “it’s only a greeting” argument.
@@toastysweaters5692 this is the same Marinette who regularly acts weird around him and has kissed him on the cheek in the past. Being that they are friends, it is more likely that Adrien sees her as just being her usual awkward self rather than being uncomfortable. And, let’s be honest, she isn’t uncomfortable. She does want to kiss Adrien but is just holding back. He can’t see that she is uncomfortable because she is not.
@@emoneestep Hmm, good point. Still, I found that whole sequence uncomfortable to watch, especially when Alya held Mari down so Adrien could kiss her, didn’t Adrien find that a bit weird?
Here's a list of what I hate about the episode:
1. Ladybug and Cat Noir putting the blame on Su han for something that he didn't do and was not his fault that the miraculouses were stolen😮💨
2. Marinette being a total idiot from saying that she will no longer focus on Adrien and then two seconds later she goes back to be interested in him. Adrien being a total creep of not realizing that Marinette feels uncomfortable when he tries to kiss her. Consent man! Consent!😤
3. Alya being a good-for-nothing and not taking things seriously of the situation that the miraculous were stolen and just says "don't worry, it'll work out fine, it's no big deal" and doesn't try to be a supportive friend to Marinette's decision of not focusing on Adrian and does the exact opposite and pushes her towards him.😑
4. Alixx's father telling the whole class that she is Bunnix is the most STUPIDEST and UNBELIEVABLE thing they could have done!!!😡
What the heck happened to the whole *"We cannot let anybody know your identity because it's dangerous and if they find out you can no longer use the miraculous"* and look everybody knows and we saw Alixx as a grown-up, you know what that means? She is still a miraculous holder even though the PRINCINAL, TEACHER AND THE WHOLE FREAKING CLASS KNOWS!!! BUT SHE STILL GETS TO KEEP THE MIRACULOUS!!!😡
THAT is nothing but bull****🤬
And Marinette is now the BIGGEST HYPOCRITE for saying all that nonsense of *"you cannot be a holder because everybody knows your identity"*
The writers and creators are complete idiots if they can't even follow their own freaking rules of the Miraculous series!!!😡
And 6. Marinette and Adrien being complete idiots that Felix is not a suspect and is actually innocent, and believing that Hawkmoth was "smart enough" to steal all the Miraculouses. But it's so obvious that it was Felix but unfortunately LB and CN AREN'T SMART ENOUGH TO BE DETECTIVES TO SEE THE OBVIOUS FACTS!!!😡
.... This show has officially lost all common sense, what was once so great has now become so pathetic that it no longer require to become better.
I am done with this series, I am only going to watch reviews of Miraculous LB because this show lost all the love and respect that I once had😮💨
FINALLY SOMEONE WHO STATES ALYA TURNING THE SUBJECT INTO ADRIENETTE
What I was confused about In this episode is that Alex’s own DAD literally revealed her identity in front of the whole class and I’m like “dude identity’s are secret for a red go to ladybug and cat noir for advice like you seriously need it.”
alix dad should have kept his mouth shut
10:30 the reason they only need to beat one is because of how the mouse miraculous power works as seen in Kwamibuster when Multimouse shrinks with all the other miraculous there is only one copy so when Ikari Gozen does the same thing there is only one Akuma. Though I don't know why that rule exists when in Mega Leech the sentimoster can multiply the Akuma as well. Once again showing the Peacock is OP
i’m already obsessed with season 5 and we’re only two episodes in
Did anyone else notice the episode stopping for a moment to focus on wayem of all people? I think that he will be the permanent holder of the dog miraculous
yes true and he is very loyal
Sabrina: "Ive been replaced TWICE! DO THE THIRD, I DARE YOU!"
Or maybe the peacock
@@celebritieslife1812 the peacock is an extremely powerful and dangerous miraculous. I don't think they'd give that to a random side character
Yeah those rings are definitely gonna be where Gabe houses those kwamis in instead the actual miraculous that were stealing from Ladybug
The only scene I didn't like is Su-han being manipulated ( I feel like it's Forced to avoid calling out ladybug), and Adrien trying to kiss Marinette ( I know it might seem as a way of greeting someone in Europe but man , he didn't do it to anyone).
Over all I would give this episode a 7/10 .
It may me that kissing on the cheek is a casual greeting in france. In real life. The fact is that we haven’t seen this behavior being commonly displayed in the show at all, so the fact that it came out of nowhere is clearly hinting at more than a casual greeting between pals.
I hope Mari's and Adrian's relationship will be much better 👏 For trust and a good duo. ❤️
Omg smarty pants ur video are so funny I'm literally dying of laughter everytime you make a MLB breakdown 🤣🤣🤣
Felix's wiki page in the episode looks like its just his real life French wiki page
From my understanding, kissing a friend on the cheek is a form of greeting in France that is culturally acceptable. We saw Chloe and Marinette do it. Adrien isn't trying to kiss her in the American or English concept, he's doing it in the french way. He's just saying hi.
Though I've always been confused as to why this wasn't explained for the non-french audiences who don't do this in their culture. Feels like something that should have been mentioned to the kwamis.
Thing is, we've never seen Marinette or Adrien greet each other this way outside of their costumes. That's what makes it jarring.
I mean it's okay that he does it the first time. Because yes French people do that, I visited France a few years ago and I was really uncomfortable (nothing against the country or the people, its a beautiful country) . *But* all the times after that were not okay. Culture or no culture kissing someone who doesn't want to be kissed is not okay, a kiss is still different from a handshake because its way more intimate.
Kagami's mom knew what she was doing she was in total agreement to cause havoc on the Parisians, what if she had injured Ladybug to the point of not being able to fix the damage they caused? so when they find that out she was in her right mind of knowing what she was doing she will go to prison for attempted murder.
Alex's dad was wrong to tell everyone who Bunnix is now Monarch knows and it puts Alex's life in danger.
It was unnerving when Alya held down Marinette's hands so Adrien could kiss her, (it brought back bad memories of people holding me down so a boy I didn't even like could kiss me) yes Marinette wants to kiss him but she apparently isn't mentally ready and it shouldn't be forced upon her, in Cat Blonc Adrien did it the right way he talked to her telling her his feelings and got her consent to kiss her, (btw when he looked down to the corner when he said 'he realized they were more than friends' he was lying, he had no romantic interest in Marinette at the time he was into her as Ladybug and the only time he showed interest in her was when he realized she is Ladybug. Until Marinette is ready he should at least kiss her hand like he does as Cat Noir that's respectable. I want these two together but the right way not pushy like Felix tried to do to Ladybug and not against her will
Couldn't Alex's dad have just told everyone she was studying abroad or something?
11:44 - If past experience is any indication, those seeds are gonna stay under the ground and only sprout in the season finale, probably in an unsatisfying way that doesn't make much sense...
can we talk about how at alya's house there was a punching back with a full cutout of hawk moth on it man when gabe gets caught ima feel sorry for the beating he'll get by the people
I don't blame her. After what he's done to his family & the Kwamis, I'll glady have a Hawkmoth punching bag myself. 😈
And yes, I cannot wait for that, especially when the Kwamis are hopefully freed & they get to beat up Gabriel.
@@amandamakin1542Alya and Nino will be pissed when they see what he did to Wayz and Trixx Kagami too imagine finding out your mom's working with a terrorist
I find it interesting these kids exist but Felix dad is dead and technically Adriens mom is dead so I wonder if they do an ep where they show us Gabe getting what he wants if we'll see that Felix and Adrien can't exist since they've made it clear there will be someone else who replaces the person that's alive. Which then makes me think because they decided to create the kids if it was just destiny for the parents to die because technically Adrien and Felix shouldn't exist. Seems obvious, but I would like to see this covered in an episode.
I’m making an AU called “Health Class” I’d be the health teacher,that’s it
I'm wondering when Su-Han is coming back and who will be with him since he is getting reinforcements. I was a little thrown too because I was looking forward to LB and CN getting back a miraculous in each episode. I guess that's not happening now. Also, I guess Kwamis can say the names of old holders because Duusu did say Natalie's name. I thought they would speak bubbles.
9:15 I think he was trying to give her dobuble kiss on the chicks, than in Europe is basicly an alternative way to shake hands. So tecnicaly Marientte is the wieard one in this situation.
only in France I think
@@MakZkovich I'm Italian and we do it all the time here
@@nuotatorre8741 It's not a thing in germany tho for example
Sure it might be rude if mari to refuse his kisses, but it is creepy that he tried again and again and again. If she doesn't want to be kissed, then don't kiss her!
Also please fix your spelling mistakes, they really annoy me
my issue with su han is that HE WAS ALSO IN CHARGE OF THE MIRACULOUS AT SOME POINT. he had more resources, more experience, and more trusted allies, but his organization still managed to make the absolutely IMBECILIC decision to trust EVERY miraculous to an unwilling kid and then leave him alone without any supervision, food, or water, and then he yells at this rag-tag team of two children who had this whole thing shoved on them, who have civilian lives and civilian families, who have less time, less trusted allies, and less resources, for making a far more reasonable mistake with arguably less severe consequences. not that ladybug doesn't have genuine issues she actually needs to work out if she intends to keep being guardian of the miraculous, but su han is a hypocrite. stop yelling at children sir this is neither productive nor reasonable. unfortunately they didn't bring that up in the episode they just went "wHy DiDn'T yOu HeLp Us" which is also neither productive nor reasonable, but oh well.
The kiss (technically a kiss but the lips don't usually touch the skin) on the cheek is called 'la bise' in France, it's weird that Marinette resisted but I get that it could have made her uncomfortable considering how she used to like him. Heck if a guy I was uncomfortable with tried kissing me on the cheek as a greeting I would probably back away too.
Or Felix maybe the wiki editor
I really don't like how this show is so badly trying to take responsibility of losing miraculouses out of Marinette. Whole idea of her being too cocky and sure of herself to one day fail it's such a cool idea for character development sadly it doesn't seem like we're getting it since show does nothing but excuse Ladybug.
Like she did not lose miraculouses because she mistook Felix for Adrien so it's "totally not her fault", she lost them because at one point she got too comfortable with giving away kwamis like candy to her school friends and even Zoe she barley knows. We're shown in S3 that she uses help of other superheroes for even the most minor villain. If Adrien acknowledged it so can the show because it was really naïve of her and understandably so she's 14.
I have such a love-hate relationship with this show, the good writing is there but nobody wants to do anything with it constantly backing out from any good idea they started.
Batman could probably figure out who monarch is
Hawkmoth becomes The Mandarían mix with Thanos and All for One
maybe for once peacock miraculous will finally have a user that doesnt abuse them maybe it will be like something where felix at least at some level thinks of them as his mother sense they where the thing that made him and adrian if the them being senti monsters is true also makes you think how powerful would a senti monster be if they have the peacock and if there where any other like flexi who where senti monsters but use the peacock
The most Duusuu will probably get is Felix pretending to care about his Felix. The Boy has no problems lying and manipulating his own Mother.
I'm just glad that surprisingly they are not gonna get the miraculous back as easily as I thought they would.
A sentimonster using the peacock miraculous? Hmmmm
I was hoping you would discuss the fact that chloe had the audacity to call ladybug and chat noir incompetent and that she would do better when she is literally the most pathetic hero in Paris
Thing is.
Astruc hates her.
So he would try his best to make people hate her more
@@MoSalah17-18 yeah,I think chloe is based on a person astruck hates in real life
I know this is technically her fault since she exposed most of the heroes identities and had she not Alya wouldn't of needed to renounce Trixx
@@craigpeoples9883 yep
the fishing rod was magical so I guess that means it is stronger than titanium
Lmao risky walking into a teenage boys room at night
Miss Bustier looks different for some reason
Honestly this episode was explained in a very funny way
no amily was not covering for felix he just hadn't arived yet
i think
Also can we talk about how they didn't even get the mouse back!? How are they gonna get all of them back if they already missed one? And why doesn't Gabe recycle the miraculouses in later episodes?
Yeah no duh she is covering for him she might turn out to be just as bad as he is when it is revealed when he and Lila reveal to her that they are the future Blue Phoenix and Chryselise and might join their cause
The episode was simple but great
I am confused. I thought season 5 was suppossed to be on Disney + (which I have), but even with a VPN I do not see it there. Where are you guys watching this?
its not out in english dub yet
@@kousl0ver thank you. any news on when that it dropping?
@@jonahblack2000 no ive heard it may come out in english dub in sept. however 2 episodes are out in portugese dub!
@@kousl0ver thanks, though I think I'll wait for the eng or fr dub
Adrien didn't feel like himself. Same with Plagg. Imposters! But I really liked the Felix and Duusu scene!
Wdym? Adrien is finally waking up.
@@liltmarshall8717 Ugh. It's like Star Vs. destroying the better ship to get back to quote on quote end game! Adrigami deserved more time in my opinion.
@@FeligamiAdrizoeSworaDennisTRF But you should know Adrinette was already going to be endgame it's one of the most important things of the show. And honestly Kagami wasn't able to be truly happy with him
@@FeligamiAdrizoeSworaDennisTRF both lack chemistry and social interactions
@@liltmarshall8717 Adrien is waking up yes, but still feel like he needs more development tho.
Marinette was creepy as hell before and tbf Adrien won't reach those limits ( from what I'm seeing), but Marinette toned down her obsession abit while Adrien still needs that extra slap to fully wake up.
And by the term "wake up" I mean character development.
It definitely is just you I’d love to live there it would be a great way to get the anger out
Yeah no duh their detective skills need work I mean not to hate on the two but they even gave up their investigation on Gabriel Agreste in 'The Collector' when they suspected he would be Hawk Moth and that Cat Blanc timeline could've been prevented if they also never stopped investigating on him
LB is now running on the 3 G's.
It was anti-climactic and at the time I thought it was bad when Adrian tried to tell his dad that he didn't want to be faced with celebrity anymore you know what a model it was really anti-climactic and it wasn't until the rings did it fully make sense and made that seem good it was not good on its own it's good in comparison information from the rings also does that mean you could turn his digital son into one of his kooma ties or or sentient be able to fight off with ladybug
Did Gabriel even respond? it might have been just a hologram of him there to cover the fact that he wasn't there
Please someone tell me where I can watch these
I loved the second episode of season 5 I loved the adrienette moments even though adrien was soooooo close kissing marinette on a cheek (don't worry Adrien you'll kiss her on the cheek). It really took guts that Natalia is done helping Gabriel now it looks like to me shes going to protect him from his own father. I read the info of the second episode and it sounds like to that some of these rings have the power of the miraculous that Gabriel and felix stole the real question is do all
of the rings have all the powers of the miraculous or do some of these rings have the power of the miraculous and only certain people were selected to have them. Hmm we will see once during the fifth season. I'm looking forward to the adrienette moments, felixs next move, Lila possibly getting the butterfly miraculous, and Lila and felix double crossing Gabriel.
How do y’all find the episodes
the rolls really seem to be reversing
Honestly the wiki part was one the funniest part of the episode
Wait wait… in the New York special didn’t the teacher say she was having a baby…? Why does it now look like she is pregnant at the 8:18 mark?
it's really better for them to beat one Ikari Gozen to defeat the army instead of bullshitting their way through all of them.
here are you watching these episodes?
I think the rings he and kagamis mom made are so the fake miraculous rings dont arouse suspicion. (Also i bet the rings will be like the bucket hats in the spondgebob movie)
I think the rings are ticking time bomb
Hm, interesting, let’s see how this goes from here.
4:36 how you gonna expose me like that bro?
It's possible that the kisses were probably the way of greeting in France. Marinette and Chloe did this in early season 2 I think. It's more likely an attempt to positively greet her, imo
It is but Adrien also hasn't ever greeted people with cheek kisses. People have done it to him, including his aunt, but he never really returns them or even initiates them, if that makes sense.
@@tama3162 He has as Chat noir to Marienette in Weredad
@@tiktokaesthetics Oooh ok, thanks! I couldn't shake the feeling that I was forgetting a scene.
Either way, he usually doesn't do it, so it's still meaningful that he's trying to do the cheek kiss greeting with Marinette specifically as Adrien.
Yea kissing on a cheek is a greeting in france its how they say hello
They made a point of showing that he greets Alya and Nino differently.
Multiplication was a good episode that follows up from Evolution and with Natalie no longer being the support for Gabriel, who better than Kagami's mom to not only know and support with her tech, but to fundamentally change the game as with the Alliance rings now, Monarch has the CITY as his Miraculous army and they all can use whatever powers he had WITHOUT having the Miraculous on them and Ladybug and Cat Noir can't recover them since Monarch will still have all of them on him at ALL TIMES!!!! Also, the reverse Adrinette is OK and it won't truly last all that long until it reverts back to what it was as we all got uncomfortably used to and I will still miss Alix in the show since she's literally time-hopping to keep Fluff and the Rabbit Miraculous safe
It wasn't to me. It was a drag to go through. And the only good character was the ancient monk.
the rings are a good idea, if the heroes were to recover the miraculous because they defeated each villian who carries one then they'll need a new story soon.
But it'll become a Problem if they can't stop him from using the Powers again Constantly. They need some way to get back each Kwami Slowly and Over time otherwise there will not be any feasible way to stop Hawk Moth.
@@lockskelington314 that will happen in due time
@@wilsonweiseng6485 I also don't think the Miraculous was transferred to the ring but the ring that Tomoe had was one of the Rings Monarch had on his hand and is mass producing them so no one suspects anyone wearing a new ring that might have magical powers and they might not even know that they have a Miraculous as Monarch could Activate it remotely/tell them about it when they are akumatized. This way they have plausible deniability and He doesn't need to share his secret identity with anyone else.
The fact that there was no smooth brain plot armor was a huge shock for me. If the wax statue scene and Adrien's attempt to kiss Mari were not there, this might've been one of the great episode
At least Marinette looks back at the wax statue scene with embarrassment
@@cousinparty7266 yeah
Also the Su han scene
Adrien going to kiss Marinette on the cheek (aka bizu bizu) is not necessarily him flirting or being a creep. A kiss on each cheek is a common way to greet someone you are close with in France. Marinette pulling away is frustrating because even though they are close, her pulling away from him is more like her saying we're not that good of friends. Yes he's friends with Nino and alya but he's not as close to alya and it's not as common to greet other males in that way.
realistically, he should do the bisou to Alya too though. From my experience in French high schools, you give everyone you've spoken to a bisou, it can be really uncomfortable at times or at least it was for me. I'm glad he only tried to do that to marinette though cause I think it'd be confusing for non-french watchers. On the other hand, without this knowledge, it seems like he wants to full on kiss her on the lips
Yeah, but it's extra weird bc they never did it before. Only time I remember anyone doing cheack kiss in the show, was back in Waerdad
No joke, but Nathalie is the best written character of this show in my opinion.
Yeah True
True 👌🏼
And also the smartest
I just wish they gave her a better reason to be a villain than just being in love with gabe like what if natalie was a sentimonster made from Emilie's love for gabe and adrien and she was made to take care of them so that why she feels the need to help gabe bring emilie back
i mean, i kinda question her intellegence for falling In love with Gabrishit. (i'm sorry i just hate gabriel with purning passion, hes SO. MUCH worse than lila)
The ring situation is interesting seeing as I thought Gabe was going to go smooth brain and make singular rings for particular villains, but the idea of the rings being. Product anyone has is pretty genius give them the power without the risk. My question rn is kagamis mom involment a recent thing or has she been apart of this since the beginning? Also I feel like there could be more to Felix's dad than initially expected, an the only reason I say that is bc he should Def have a Pic on his page and the fact he doesn't gives me the impression that he'll play some bigger part in Felix's story this season.
Totally agree, Gabe is finally dusting off the old noggin. But I also think this will lead to ladybug and cat noir making the conclusion that Gabe is monarch/hawk moth because why else would a citizen create technology capable of transferring the kwamis powers?
@@jackaboyx3 It'll probably be one of the last episodes where Ladybug finds out the connection between the rings and the transfer of Miraculous powers. And then from there onwards deducting that Hawk Moth is Gabriel. It's a bit of a big plothole when you think about it.
The partnership between Gabriel and Kagami’s mother has been a thing for a while now. Remember in the episode where Jeremy Zagg self inserted himself into an episode for the first time, I believe that was the beginning of their partnership outside of just business partners but also as a potential supervillain partnership.
I think season 5 is shaping up to be the best season 👀
wait. xD
Yeah
After a lot of trial and error, the writers have seemed to find their groove.
Except the 1st episode.. it was so dumb how everything could have changed or LB & CN could have taken the Miraculous all at once
@@purplearies9746 yeah! I'm glad they have
I really like this episode. I enjoyed it more than Evolution. While Evolution had fun time travel shenanigans this episode had a lot of more set up to stuff later the down the road.
I've also seen theories of a possible redemption arc for Nathalie and after that scene with Adrien I can see it. She did basically quit villianly and is trying to make up for what she helped Gabe do
In Adrien's defense, the only experience he's had with romantic relationships is Kagami who always took the direct approach, so there's no reason why Adrien wouldn't think that that is how romantic relationships work.
To everyone who says “Oh kissing is just a way to greet each other in France, there’s nothing romantic about it”, Marinette still backs away, showing that she doesn’t want it. So while Adrien might not have those intentions, I say he’s still in the wrong since he keeps trying.
Alya is even more wrong than Adrien because before the villain showed up she trapped Marinette in place to experience an awkward situation for Marianette, something that Marinette has told Alya point blank that she (Marinette) rightfully shouldn’t focus a relationship with Adrien anyway.
@@IsmaelCiulla There is a difference between forcing an awkward situation, and trying to make your friend stop screwing themselves over. Alya isn't stupid, she knows the only reason Marienette is backing away is out of gulit, not because she doesn't Adrien to kiss her.
@@hadrianhexe9603 but still Alya should still back off due to respect
@@IsmaelCiulla again, it's not a matter of respect, it's a matter of knowing what type of person her friend is
@@hadrianhexe9603 and what exactly kind of person is Alya?
I actually loved this episode, the set up for the rest of the season was great and the fact they didn’t actually get a miraculous back like we all assumed they would pet episodes was actually a nice switch up. One thing that bugs me however: if secret identities is such a big part of this show how come Alix doesn’t have to stick with that rule? Like I get you can argue that Monarch has seen her grown up version so he knows who has the miraculous but why then spread that information to the class and general public?? Idk after four seasons of “it’s too dangerous to know each other’s identities” It just felt out of place
good luck reaching someone who is in an another time period
I guess they wanted people to know that Alix was Okay. Since she would have suddenly Disappeared. They could have Lied. But then people would wonder why she is Calling,etc. Just telling them the truth just gives a lot less headaches.
Gabriel in this episode was like “ You know what I was a little impatient last time and because of that i lost the most powerful Miraculous. I’m going to take some weeks off and really think about my next Plan. Try to be a Better Villain and a Better Father. And you know what I can’t do this Alone I should try to get some Allies. Starting this Day Forward I’m going to be a Newer Gabriel A BETTER GABRIEL.
character improvement am I right
Pfft, yeah like that's ever going to happen.
This episode really does shape up this season finally comfirming Smarty Pants's theory. I love the content keep up the good work 😀
I definitely prefer this review where you put pictures from the actual episode rather than random clips from previous episodes (I'm guessing for copyright you can't show clips of the actual episode)
8:18 I never noticed while watching the episode until In this video IN THIS SCENE !!!???!!??!?!!!
Seriously NO ONE ELSE noticed that SWOLLEN BELLY OF MS BUSTIER
SHES PREGNANT WTF ..., where the heck does the New York special FIT in the mlb timeline?!???!!!!
They should definitely be using Su Han better IMO. The dude has only played a role in two episodes and stood still in the final scene of a third. Now he suddenly shows regret for his acting (despite hardly ever acting at all in the show) and... he's gone. At this point it feels like he was made just for the Furious Fu episode and then had to be forcibly included so we wouldn't wonder why he wasn't there. And the dude can't even grow a spine to save his life.
But for once team villain is way less pathetic than the hero team! The Alliance commercial is brilliant, though it would have been a bit better if they used another brand as a 'proxy' between them as villains and them as civilians doing business. Sooner or later the heroes will realize that some people have Miraculous powers and others don't, and it doesn't have to take long to realize the difference between the groups. If the secret gets discovered then there are only two potential candidates for Monarch, and Tsurugi arrived in Paris after Hawk Moth already started akumatizing people. The plan will be great short to medium long term, but might backfire in the long term
I guess they could pretend that Monarch threatened to harm Kagami or Adrien if they didn't build a Backdoor into the Rings for him......but how long is that explanation really going to fool our Protagonists?
Su Han's really played no role so far. He comes up with sensible requests, but by the end of the episode he's told to shut up, that keeping the status quo is better than any change he's asking for, and he humiliates himself and apologizes.
I don't like that they didn't claim ownership when confronted by Su-Han, he has every right to be upset with them
About those alliance rings, I want to know how so many people have them 😂 something like that definitely can’t be mass produced knowing it’s advanced capabilities and the material it’s made from. And what does it do that a phone can’t (besides grant access to a miraculous power)? It’s unimportant but I have to ask
I just hope that Aliya still gets some screen time this season. I loved here occasionally being around to help ladybug and even having 2 eps where she was basically the main hero.
she got ALOT of screentime last season so I don't get what your talking about
I hope they find the good balance with her. Last season they forcibly downplayed cat noir to make room for Alya to shine as Rena rogue. Now that she doesn't have her miraculous, I think we'll get a better balance of Alya being amazing while Cat Noir is still useful (Alya primarily helps Marinette, Cat Noir primarily helps Ladybug)
@@fantasan8540 to add on, Ladybug is trying to redeem herself from last season and treating CN like an actual partner, in which Alya was indirectly the whole catalyst for that mess, so I think Alya will have more evenly paced screen time.
I hope Nathalie doesn't die, she's one of the best characters in the show
Not to mention she's basically a second mother to Adrien so he'd be losing a mother all over again.😭😭
*IASIP theme plays* "Nathalie dies"
And nothing of value was lost.
AND she's basically Adrien's mother figure😭😭😭
If she doesn’t die she’s definitely going to jail so yeah
Well this didn't end well
I really liked this episode. I liked how it continued off of the season 4 finale/Evolution, but still continuing to bring the story forward. I was a massive fan of the pacing. It feels nice to be able to take a breather from having a of a waste-of-time B plot and just see how the characters are feeling about everything that's changed. Can't wait to see where they go with these plots they're setting up, I just hope they don't screw it up.
Once again, Americans are missing some context, it’s customary in a lot of countries in Europe to greet people by kissing them on the cheek, so that what adrien was probably trying to do to marinette
Exactly I just know that want to use it as a way to hate on Adrien and called him a guy that knows no boundaries.
People have been telling me that, but what does it say when you give 2 people a fist bump and one of them, who's not your bf/gf, a kiss? And remember, he never kissed anyone a greetings before. So to pull off a stunt like that simply says its for fanservice
The only time I remember a kiss as greeting was in Despair Bear at Cloé's party. And there it was a normal way to greet the guests. But we never saw Adrien doing that before.
Maybe he thought, that Marinette always wished to be greeted that way, because she said goodbye with a kiss at Hero's day.
@@fatherplatypus2316 Adrien is a famous person I'm sure he does that every time he's out at big events. Adrien told mari she means so much to him so him want to kiss mari on the cheeck is a way to show her that. We never see Adrien doing that to mari before so this time it's very understandable.
@@icecreamchilling7438 Finally someone said it! Thank you!
Pretty good episode, excited to see Felix transform
I'm still stuck on suhan being able to jump like that without using a miraculous. Haven't seen anyone talk about that yet....
I like this episode. Interesting that they decided to change it up and make the Akuma Battle not be the focus, like seriously... we only have 5 minutes of Ikari Gozens and it all happened near the end of the episode. I like how it is focused on the regular life stuff and the romance. I like the continuity and the set up for future episodes for this season especially with the villains.
I even find it funny that Adrien is now decided to become creepy to Marinette with attempts to kiss on the cheek. Marinette is already finding it Felix level creepy. 😅 But yeah, I like Adrien's reaction when his father pretty much say "yeah. Ok. Whatever." When Adrien said he doesn't want to be a model. And guess what Gabriel did, kept Adrien's modelling life eternal with technology and let his real life do whatever he likes. Gabriel looks like Bill Gates, but white when he announces the ring named the "Alliance" or the "Alias". I don't know how Adrien would feel about this, but OK. At least Gabriel kept his promise. To be honest, without Mrs. Tsurugi and her brand + tech, Gabriel would probably said no.
Yeah. 9/10 for this episode being Multiplication. They haven't retrieved the Mouse in this episode, good. Would be boring doing it that way, but is a bit of a question how Ikari Gozen got that power. And my guess, the rings is Monarch's way of communicating and delivering. Remember, he will try and get to everyone, so yeah using tech is a smart way to connect and trap people.
I don't know a lot about french culture but It is normal in french culture to kiss people on the cheeks as a greeting. You even do it with your co-workers at work. However, I do think when it happen the first time and made her uncomfortable. They should you know talk about it. It could have made for a good conversation about their friendship. It could be a good conversation about Marinette being happy with their friendship but it is a little much for him to do that. Then they could make a later episode when she cools with it and greets him instead. However, this show is not good with building healthy boundaries.
The Su-Han thing is so fucking funny. I guess the writers thought that not having Su-Han confront Ladybug about this would spark viewers to point out his absence, so they threw in a scene that accomplished nothing. It's basically to ward off people from complaining that they forgot about him. Which, honestly, I wish they would
Yeah I’d rather them actually forgot then giving us that dumbass scene
I find this interesting how instead of them getting a mraculas back every episode it's the rings that give them the power of the mraculas
I LOVED IT! IT WAS AMAZING!!! (9.5/10)
Everybody in this damn show is lying tho (Amelie, Kagami's mom, Gabriel, Lila...), and I love it!🤣
It was nice to see Cosmobug and Astrocat back! Really smart of them to immediatly search for Felix!
I liked that they didn't get the mouse miraculous back! It would have been too easy, in my opinion!
The end-credit scene gave me chills!!!😳
I also enjoyed a lot seeing LB and CN enjoying their "freetime" together!🤣
I'm glad Su-Han appeared and that they mentioned the reason why Alix won't go to school again for the next few weeks/months!
The pregnancy from Ms. Bustier surprised me a lot, in a positive way!👍🏼I actually thought they forgot about that from the New York special.
We have a new trio of villains:
Gabriel
Tsurugi
Lila
Nathalie and Felix are playing seperate games?!🤔🤔
I really have high hopes for the rest of S5! I'm excited for what comes next!!
The only thing i didn't love as much was the akuma battle! It was good, but I thought it was a bit too chaotic (I think it has to do with the animation) and I really didn't like the voice performance from Ikari Gozen's voice actress.😕But I think i will like it more in english and german!
The rest was amazing tho!
Gabriel with white hair?!😅Okay, that was really unexpected!
Every villain was in this one:
Gabriel
Tsurugi
Lila
Felix
(Nathalie)
Amelie
Uhhhhhhhh😏
Your comment made my day, a lot of hate on one side and your comment on other side. Thanks
I don’t Felix is a villain. I think he’s just doing it for himself so he’s in a gray section.
I am not sure if Amelie can be called a Villain *just* yet.
So far, the only sketchy Thing she has done is protecting Felix from Ladybug and Cat Noir.
@@leoisliveop Yeah, well, I guess everywhere exists light, but also darkness😅
Thanks.
@@Saturday6981 what do you mean by Nathalie playing seperate games?
I would like to say some things:
1) This season is starting to become really interesting and I can't wait for more episodes but this episode in particular seems like it did too little yet too much. I laughed when I saw they had time for a time skip and legitimatly paused the episode to laugh. But things seemed rushed still... I can't properly explain it...
Also like is Kagami's mom just okay with world domination now?
2) Literally what was that interaction with Su-Han (hope I spelled it right)?! They have a chance to gain an alley! He seems to know a lot about miraculous and be legitimatly helpful. Yet they make him dumb and literally bow down to the heroes and then go off to somewhere? Not sure if he will ever return on time. Will no one teach these kids how they can postpone their transformations for longer than 5 minutes?!
God that super ancient guy that knows a lot about miraculous could maybe answer you on why the mouse miraculous was not on the akumatized person or if that was even possible. You could know Kagami's mom was faking it!
3) Full White Gabriel Agreste is nightmare fuel. In a good way?
And finally 4) by saying this I am not saying that Adrien is right in doing this behavior. However you must consider that he barely interacted with people and this is likely his first (asides from ladybug) time he has to deal with these feelings and probably doesn't know how to express them.
And secondly I think you need to understand that in Europe it is normal to kiss people on the cheeks when they greet. Yes it depends a lot on the country, in which situations do you use it, but it is normal and you do this with everyone. Adults, kids, teens, etc. In fact in Chloe's party Marinette and Chloe kiss, because it is a social normal and would be seen as rude for everyone even if they hate each other. However, yes it is a little awkward to kiss guys that are your age, especially if you have a crush on them. We don't just go around pretending like it's just like any other kiss.
But I am just trying to reeinforce that you should take Adrien accountable for repeatidly trying to kiss her as she wasn't confortable and not for doing it the first time. Meeting your friends and giving them a kiss, two or more even when you meet, depending on the country (usually on more formal settings at least in my country), means you care for them. And it's normal to do it!
Also, it’s over the course of several weeks, for all we know he just tried those three times, not every single time.
Shout out to gabe for not doing the stupid thing we all thought he was gonna do, I'm actually shocked he isn't pulling a ladybug and giving everyone a miraculous
Pretty sure the kiss is the French greeting type of kiss. Like what Marinette and Chloe did in Despair Bear.
Ladybug and Catnoir should have find and confront Felix instead of his mom. They were being too soft. They should have told her that Felix stole the Miraculous. They should have stayed in London a bit longer and search for him.
I am disappointed that Alix's dad told the class she was Bunnix as appose to come up with some cover story. He apparently had time to think of one. Most of the class are or were superheroes, but Lila was there as well.
I was also disappointed that they gave up on looking for Felix so quickly. It seems like the writers couldn't figure out a way around that. I would take it as Felix is hiding from them, since he betrayed them and his house is the first place they would look. It was also possible he hadn't made it back to England yet, the pair flying off as soon as they had a minute to think about it while Felix has to take the train, a train that Ladybug took him off when she gave him the miraculous. He would have to wait for the next one.
Felix is probably older than Adrian since he went to an English school he probably Left at 15 or 16 what you can do at English schools if you were born between August and around the end of July