Ikr! Especially when later in Puppeteer 2, in the car ride home, Adrien claims that Kagami is the girl he's in love with *directly* to Marinette, like- 🧍♀
How can we all pretend it never happened when thr dhow keeps beating us with that moment? I just want them together so we hopefully won't have to keep mentioning that moment lmao.
many people think that Adrien started loving Marinette too late, but honestly I think it's the other way around. Cat noir has been in love with ladybug since season one, he even confessed his feelings and as a response ladybug said, that them being together would be a huge distraction from saving Paris. Now Ladybug is being distracted. Marinette has never confessed her feelings for Adrien and she had been clueless around him from the beginning. Because she has never confessed, Adrien had no chance of knowing about her feelings. So I think Marinette started loving Cat noir too late.
I feel like people dissociate Marinette from Ladybug too often, when they're literally the same person. Just as Cat Noir is how Adrien would be like when given absolute freedom, Ladybug is how Marinette would be like if given the chance to be more confident and be someone people can rely in. I don't think they realize how different Marinette is now in comparison to Season 1- and that's the person Adrien fell in love with. Sure it took him some time to admit it, but he fell in love with the ideal version of Marinette. Now, he's falling in love with "her" because he sees her as who she really is, and with recent events and over the past seasons, she has definitely come close to being the ideal version of herself: confident, strong, and capable. But he's always been in love with her, that's the irony of the love square.
Is it just me, or does someone else think, that Luka and Kagami would make an interesting couple? Btw: I still hope, the writers make something out of the "Wishmaker" Episode. I mean, Luka knows the identities of both of our protagonists and could be a good counsellor for both of them. But so far... nothing is done with it
Me too. Also can we just talk about the fact that as they walked away, Luka had his arm resting on Kagami's back? For two people who I don't think have even had a conversation before this, that's some pretty close contact.
There's a reason Alya isn't in this episode - she'd have gotten a concussion from the number of times she slammed her head into the nearest wall watching the Adrienette drama unfold.
What's funny is Adrien (how Marinette and his fans see him, anyway) is the "ideal" version of him, and Chat is how he really is. Ladybug is the "ideal" version of Marinette, and Marinette is actually her. They did progress to love each other for how they truly are, even though they don't know it yet. They've grown. This should've happened in like late season 2 or early to mid season 3, but still.
Me: *thinking about how traumatized Adrien must be after being forced to cataclysm two human beings and worrying about this poor kid's sanity*😭 This guy: "Adrien's first taste of...action😏" I think he was a bit too busy being in shock to feel any "action". Besides...the hand wasn't even that low😅💀
Wow… I GENUINELY LOVED your review of Determination! Everything you mentioned is SPOT ON! And yes… I really hated the fact that they brought up the Wax Scene OUT OF ALL PLACES, they chose that scene. Many of us, including me, wanted to forget about that scene and didn’t think much of it… but… here we are…. I skipped that scene every time it popped up in the episode….
I feel like Mari still loves adrien. She def has feelings for chat noir but I feel like all her love for adrien hasn’t left. Mari is extremely extremely annoying with this “ I’m so nervous and clumsy around him” thing.” It’s been 5 seasons and she was getting better with her interactions with Adrien, now it’s back to season one where she can hardly talk to him
@@nikkiovi5975 idk the crying scene and the end of season 4 dosent feel artificial. Yeah I still think she likes Adrian and is trying to get away from him. But I really think she fell in love with chat
@@nikkiovi5975 She never hated him though, the only reason Marientte was was mean to Chat was because he was pushing her even after she told him she was already in love.
@@hadrianhexe9603 she said in one of the earlier seasons that if Adrien wasn’t in the picture she would give chat a chance. So I guess now that she’s really trying to get over Adrien she’s opening herself up to him.
@@Zvwry Exactly, i feel like people tend to forget that Marinette has a reason for the things she does. Like she'd never outwardly malicious to anyone unless she feels like they aren't respecting her (Chloe being rude, , Chat continuing to flirt with her even after she said to stop). Like yes she can be awkward and cringe but she's not mean or a bad person like people try to make her out to be.
This episode, to me, exist only for 2 purposes: Confirming the reverse love square and justifying the wax statue kiss. They could've add so much more here, like when Chloe mocks Ladybug, Chat Noir reminds Chloe she sided with Hawkmoth in Miracle Queen. Seriously, one of these days, they will have to remind her of that. Overall, just a decent episode. Love Luka and Kagami's role here, and love Manipula's design. 6/10
Definitely thrilled you did this review. Seriously, the writers destroyed Adrigami and Lukanette for this stupidity?! Well anyway, loved Kagami being the best wingwoman for both her Adrien and Luka's Marinette. Honestly, as much loathing as Kagami, Felix, Lila and Luka get these 4 are the most well written characters. That's crazy in a nutshell.
@@vladimir3905 Sorry that's a long distinguished list. But put simply. . . . the whole Adrien and Marinette are meant to be thing. That they are "perfect" for one another. Kagami and Luka themselves are now trying to get them together. Yet these two alone are doing better then most of Marinette's enablers since Season 1.
@@kicherouf2037 Lila is just an evil girl, Luka is just a love interest without a personality and Felix is just an Adrien copy that's evil. The only well written character in this show is Nathalie
Yeah some fans are saying gabriel was learning to be less protective hell no he was completely focused on getting the dam miraculous he probably let Adrian go to school because it is filled with easy pray for akumatization he just needed to learn more about them incase he needed to induce negative emotions
I find interesting watching this episode she was embarrassed by this day like all of us but was sweet to see adrien remembers it differently he thought it as a sweet day
This episode wasn't bad ,but considering the fact that Adrien falls inlove with Marinette and Marinette falls inlove with catnoir it could have been a bit more intense.
Oh my God, all they did was flip who was in love with who. Get ready for another 4 seasons of this before the actual reveal and they realize they're in love with one another. I will say it's an improvement, with Mari falling for the real side of Adrien (Cat Noir) while Adrien fell in love with the real side of Ladybug (Mari), but I don't know if I can handle another 3-4 seasons of this poorly written romance between them.
Oh my days with the end of season 5 it feels like they're going to dance around each other for another like 3 seasons. At this point the whole of Paris knows ladybugs identity, there's no point anymore 😭😭
The only way i’ll accept that marinette doesn’t like adrien anymore is if she is able to talk to him completely normally without any stuttering. Until that happens I’ll always think she’s just suppressing those feelings instead of having moved on.
Honestly, I paired Luka and Kagami, they’re too perfect for each other. One is cool headed, another is fiery, both equally passionate and wants love. And they look exactly like the humanoid ver of what the ladybug and cat Kwami could be in. Literal representation!
It might be an unpopular opinion, but to me, this is the best episode of season 5 so far. All of the other episodes that have been released are focussed on Marinette/Ladybug and Adrien/Cat Noir and have a very serious undertone, wich in my opinion is getting old. This episode has the typical "Miraculous-flair" that season 5 has been missing. Kagami wingmanning Adrien and Marinette panicking during the entire time was hilarious to me. And an episode revolving around your favorite cringe scene in Miraculous was just icing on the cake to me. However, I wished they used more of the characters of the other seasons in season 5. I like that Kagami did something for the plot in this episode, and I don't mind characters like Veronique being introduced, but I wished they used more characters like Marinettes classmates and Luka during this season. Luka didn't do much in this episode (he just kept Marinette from running away), Alya is just a person who Marinette vents to, Chloe is just angry as for usual and most other characters didn't realy do much. I realy hope they'll get a better role in future episodes
Determination was a good but cringeful episode because of the whole Puppeteer 2 reminder that Marinette was EXTRA creepy and KISSED Adriens lips and she STILL laments this and is trying her damndest to move on, but now Adrien has feelings for her and he is trying to make a honest move on her, but they are easily getting in each other's way and the clock is still ticking on when they will actually just be a couple and stop this 4 SEASON dance of confusing emotions. Manipula was a interesting villain and she could've won had Cat Noir not re motivate Ladybug and her using all the Heroes powers to her disposal to clap the 2 and collect their miraculous, but her blundering caused her downfall. Also, REVERSE LOVE SQUARE is a things now and thus, my point for this episode now ends here.
@@lyndaazaleacheng3072 smarty pants (dont know the real name) said this about Tikki... that she must be loving this drama with marinette/Ladybug and adrian/Catnoir because she knows both of their Identities
I think think creators tried to gaslight us about wax statue scene being good because they weren't expecting how everyone felt cringy about it XD Well everyone still doesn't believe Adrien's feelings for Marinette started at museum but way before XD
I love the story pacing and that there’s like the MOST story ever, like season 3-4 and now 5 have just all improved in story line and progression which is amazing. But I am worried by the fast pacing release, like I was JUST processing the past few episodes still
Aw poor 3 it gets hate more than it deserves like yeah they were milking it and sure it’s not my top 3. I think it was just a weird season of stagnation. And it limited itself with the whole gotta go run off to Fu. But it does have some of my favorite episodes like Silencer Kwamibuster and obvy Chat Blanc. It just needed to be shortened or had a little more thought into some of those low tier episodes. Cuz it’s kind of a roller coaster where some are great and others I forget exist until I rewatch. Then I’m like oh yeah no the hates not unjustified. Looking at u stormy weather 2. Bruh it has a volcano but we don’t even get to see it be used!! 😡
Yeah so is Marichat going to be as awkward as ladrien was before. And now ladrien will be more serious with witty banter? I find it funny how all it took for Marinette to completely ignore cat blanc was Felix deceiving her by impersonating Adrien to take the miraculouses.
The reverse was really shocking for me. This was something I had not expected after years of seeing Marinette fixate on Adrirn and Cat Noir fixate on Ladybug.
I really thought they would've given Manipula the power of the Goat to create more wax staues, not the ox. Her design didn't indicate it would move in that direction at all. Hell, I expected the bee's powers to manifest in some way through wax encasing people -- she's just so yellow.
I'm sorry but the part where you talked about Chat Noir's first "action" was fucking hilarious 💀 I'm crying tears bro!!! Excellent review man, excellent! Also, not the writers actually having the balls to bring back this cursed scene AND ACTUALLY MAKE IT RELEVANT?!?!?! Only Miraculous 😭😭😭😭😭
Luka was one of the best parts of the episode. I really hate the out of order releases because the missing content takes away the hype of those two getting together
I personally think the Ox power should also be immune to the plans the lucky charms give you. Imagine the falling chandelier just does nothing to her lmfao
But the thing is, the lucky charm doesn't give you any plans. It's been shown that it's the user who makes it powerful, and Marinette is very good at thinking under pressure and coming up with creative, unorthodox solutions. That's why she always uses her "lucky charm vision" when she isn't Ladybug (ex. In Scarabella). Adrien has been shown to use his own vision (I think in Oblivio?) But it's really just them thinking through how to get themselves out of a sticky situation
@@fantasan8540 That's a retcon to attempt to cover the fact that Ladybug was using that power in Sandboy after it was disabled. It was established in Troublemaker that the flashing visions are part of the lucky charm power.
I literally avoided puppeteer 2 because I didn't want to see the damn wax statue scene and then determination goes ahead and flashbacks to it for me to make me regret watching the series more and more
Jesus... First that wax statue incident, now unintentionally getting his first bit of "action" from a cougar? Either Adrian is gonna avoid museums & wax statues like the plague due to this running gag or he's secretly gonna have a thing for older women now.
I thought it was good. The stuff between cat and ladybug was really good and is back to old them which is nice to see. Them working together without fighting each other every two seconds is nice, but if they got rid of the really bad wax statue scene it be better. I only wanted to see that once not two times in the same episode. but yes it was good. Also Luca's line about everyone loving Adrian and him loving everyone back made me laugh. Any way I would give it an 8/10 it was good but things could have been improved in some places but still fun :)
I loved how Adrien and Marinette had completely different views about how the whole statue incident went down🤣 Also I don't care what anyone else says, Luka and Kagami would be a great couple, I really hope they have more scenes together and at least become good friends.🥰
I think what's worse about the episodes being out of order...is that they had months to go with finishing the episodes BUT STILL GOT THEM OUT OF ORDER!
What made me sad about the hall of heroes is that Queen Bee should have been included. Her various akumatized forms should be in the hall of villains or whatever too, but Queen Bee was truly once a hero of the city, even if she stopped being a hero later. Facts are facts. She was a hero of the city once.
I give villains a pass on them not knowing what the snake miraculous does because they literally can't see what it does. Second chance by it's nature means only those who know it's power beforehand and the person who uses its power know what it does and they don't really advertise it. Granted it doesn't excuse Gabe for not telling her. It's a similar case with the bunny we're not many people actually know about the bunny's power and it's always followed by weird time stuff. Edit: also I guess second Chance has its 5 minute limit which I don't know how that affects Gabe as an adult user but realistically these fights take more than 5 minutes more often than they don't so he can't just second chance it.
i think that the episode was pretty... fiiiiiiiiine! i can see where it could be better, but it has the stuff i like, also... while i know that in the scene where ladybug and cat noir fight the fake heroes, they fight with wax figures, but honestly, i find the way they just snap most of them figures in half and other "cut to pieces" stuff pretty darn BRUTAL (the way i see violence can even go to quite literally sentient wax figures... Therapy time?)
While watching this episode I felt the need to slap Marinette, she just annoyed me so much- he finally shows interest but she’s now like nahhhh, it feels so forced from the writers perspective… why, why, arghhh I knew I am gonna comment that under your future video.
5:29: They REALLY should have instead brought up their moments in the New York special, it would have made more sense. It's far less cringey than her kissing a statue and they both consented to it, so it isn't that weird or awkward for them. It also happened WAY more recently (before S4) than the statue kiss moment did in S3. The episode was great and all, but that moment was hella weird and cringe... 😬
Why doesn't Gabriel ever think smart? Why doesn't he just Akumatize himself and give himself the ability to summon the miraculous to him? He seems to be able to do ANYTHING with his power, including stealing and/or emulating the power of every single miraculous, what are the limitations here???
It was best episode for me I never had so much emotions before with any past episode and not even after And...I think that Marinette is over thinking person I do it too and many times people are looking at me because they whould never thought about is Its not wrong its differend then most people
It officially took them six years to do the intrest reversal trope. Im gonna guess that if they manage to get the resources, they will stretch out the inevitable to the 10 year anneversary... but still have it somehow be a fakeout.
It's crazy how Felix was the original character for cat noir and the personallilty was exactly how it was now. I ,mean he actually acted like Gabriel! Bro imagine that type of cat noir
Everyone in Kitty Section: We definitely will get that record deal from Bob Roth! Juleka: *Flashbacks to when her own BROTHER was akumatized as Silencer because Bob Roth scammed them*
Aw, you didn't talk about Chloe's rant. Like I was so infuriated at her blaming Ladybug. Yes, you're right, Chloe, but you were the catalyst to her becoming Guardian and leading to all these risks being taken. And she keeps saying they would've won with Queen Bee, like girl, shut up. You should be grateful we haven't publicly announced your expulsion because you would've gotten akumatized again from the humiliation. 😤
Three things: 1. It’s kinda funny for André to assume that people seeing wax models of the heroes would make people depressed. Isn’t it a possibility that these people would be hopeful that these heroes would return one day and defeat Monarch? 2. I’m glad I’m not the only one who thinks that Gabe not giving the snake miraculous is stupid! If you give your villains the snake power, every villain you create will have a the second chance power. 3. If Manipula was able to use the Ox power of resistance to prevent getting Cataclysmed, Why did monarch do the same thing back in episode 3? WTF Gabe???!!!!!
the doors are a trap for Gabe if he found Marinette's house so they would have to be quickly accessed and moved quick so there is no actual time for him to escape
This is the longest will they won't they I've ever seen. And when the confession finally happens, she pretends to like the guy she broke up with. WHY?! XD
He was "feeling" before the wax statue make out scene, he told Plagg she is important to him wanting to make her happy and comfortable around him. It obviously turned on a switch because all he remembered was the make out, but she remembered the rejection and he made a point of telling her the girl he is in love with doesn't like pranks either, like as if he was rejecting her softly so not to ruin their friendship
Point on security for the hero exhibit: bringing inanimate objects to life or controling someone through their likeness are established akuma powers. Makes sense lowkey that the hero exhibit would have extra security
I’m so glad that Kagami and Luka are not taking crap from them anymore and not in love with Adrian and martinet they bother deserve not to be used by them and need to find them self someone who will fully appreciate them and love them fully since martinet and Adrien never loved them in the beginning Luka and Kagami don’t deserved to be used and had every right to lock them up
With all these episodes dropping rather quick... Kinda can't wait to see what the full/true timeline of the episodes... Not just what the LB bible says... And yes this episode was a bit cringe with talking about that scene always makes things awkward... And with the part you asked about how come Gabe doesn't just redo using Wayzz (? The snake) because there's a limit of what he can do with the Kwami's but still... He is perpetually a smooth brain in his plans to do anything lol cool review dude
I thought it was sort of a mess with a few moments like chat noir losing his "purity" ring with a akumatised curator and unintentionally roasting lb with a besties remark.
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I think my biggest shock from this episode was realizing Adrien started feeling things for Marinette after that wax statue scene 😭😭😭
me too like what!?
She speaks his cringe
if i were him i would get turned off
@@lilacthorn4333 So Real,,, they were meant to be cringe together fr
Ikr! Especially when later in Puppeteer 2, in the car ride home, Adrien claims that Kagami is the girl he's in love with *directly* to Marinette, like- 🧍♀
I can't believe Adrien felt for Marinette in the f*cking wax scene
💀💀💀 tbh I can't even disagree like is he that touch craved or something?
It makes no sense
Hi. I'd like to say something. Adrien. You need mental help. Also EMERGENCY MEETING!
@@bmb4rllyxcgsss837 HELP
How can we all pretend it never happened when thr dhow keeps beating us with that moment? I just want them together so we hopefully won't have to keep mentioning that moment lmao.
Chat is slowly becoming the MVP in these episodes more often and I’m loving that he’s in the spotlight more now
Same!^^
Same
I hope the trend of Chat being more important this season keeps up! His time in the spotlight has been long overdue
@@foxpokemonforever4775 yeah especially after what they did to him in season 4
Me, too! This season is his season!😁
many people think that Adrien started loving Marinette too late, but honestly I think it's the other way around. Cat noir has been in love with ladybug since season one, he even confessed his feelings and as a response ladybug said, that them being together would be a huge distraction from saving Paris. Now Ladybug is being distracted. Marinette has never confessed her feelings for Adrien and she had been clueless around him from the beginning. Because she has never confessed, Adrien had no chance of knowing about her feelings. So I think Marinette started loving Cat noir too late.
I feel like people dissociate Marinette from Ladybug too often, when they're literally the same person. Just as Cat Noir is how Adrien would be like when given absolute freedom, Ladybug is how Marinette would be like if given the chance to be more confident and be someone people can rely in. I don't think they realize how different Marinette is now in comparison to Season 1- and that's the person Adrien fell in love with. Sure it took him some time to admit it, but he fell in love with the ideal version of Marinette. Now, he's falling in love with "her" because he sees her as who she really is, and with recent events and over the past seasons, she has definitely come close to being the ideal version of herself: confident, strong, and capable. But he's always been in love with her, that's the irony of the love square.
Agreed
Agreed
Cat noir had to get his development.
When cat noir started acting more mature, that's when she started to like him
@@liltmarshall8717 Thats proof hat girls don't like simps
What I loved about determination was Luka and Kagami interacting
It's the only time they put in any effort.
And how they're the polar opposite💀 luka wants to go home and kagami just refuses to leave
Is it just me, or does someone else think, that Luka and Kagami would make an interesting couple? Btw: I still hope, the writers make something out of the "Wishmaker" Episode. I mean, Luka knows the identities of both of our protagonists and could be a good counsellor for both of them. But so far... nothing is done with it
Hey I ship it. lugami or kaluka?
Me too. Also can we just talk about the fact that as they walked away, Luka had his arm resting on Kagami's back?
For two people who I don't think have even had a conversation before this, that's some pretty close contact.
There's a reason Alya isn't in this episode - she'd have gotten a concussion from the number of times she slammed her head into the nearest wall watching the Adrienette drama unfold.
That makes sense without her powers it was bound to happen
What's funny is Adrien (how Marinette and his fans see him, anyway) is the "ideal" version of him, and Chat is how he really is.
Ladybug is the "ideal" version of Marinette, and Marinette is actually her.
They did progress to love each other for how they truly are, even though they don't know it yet.
They've grown.
This should've happened in like late season 2 or early to mid season 3, but still.
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Yeah but Plagg said chat walker was the true Adrien tho
I agree!
@@j-art1207
No in that episode he said all 3 of them is a part of Adrien and makes him who he is
Me: *thinking about how traumatized Adrien must be after being forced to cataclysm two human beings and worrying about this poor kid's sanity*😭
This guy: "Adrien's first taste of...action😏"
I think he was a bit too busy being in shock to feel any "action". Besides...the hand wasn't even that low😅💀
LMAO THATS WHAT I’M SAYING
Plus it's kinda assault if you count it like that 😭 idk if I'd count that as action
@OddCard True! Poor Adrien has been through too much these past two seasons😭😭
@@ItsMinnowSeason Honestly yeh-
FR LMAO i did not even notice until now🤣🤣🤣😂😂
Your reaction at Chat's cataclysm was priceless and I couldn't agree more. We don't talk about that damn statue scene xd.
Wow… I GENUINELY LOVED your review of Determination! Everything you mentioned is SPOT ON!
And yes… I really hated the fact that they brought up the Wax Scene OUT OF ALL PLACES, they chose that scene. Many of us, including me, wanted to forget about that scene and didn’t think much of it… but… here we are…. I skipped that scene every time it popped up in the episode….
I feel like Mari still loves adrien. She def has feelings for chat noir but I feel like all her love for adrien hasn’t left. Mari is extremely extremely annoying with this “ I’m so nervous and clumsy around him” thing.” It’s been 5 seasons and she was getting better with her interactions with Adrien, now it’s back to season one where she can hardly talk to him
@@nikkiovi5975 no I completely agree. Seems like she’s just trying to project her feelings onto someone else.
@@nikkiovi5975 idk the crying scene and the end of season 4 dosent feel artificial. Yeah I still think she likes Adrian and is trying to get away from him. But I really think she fell in love with chat
@@nikkiovi5975 She never hated him though, the only reason Marientte was was mean to Chat was because he was pushing her even after she told him she was already in love.
@@hadrianhexe9603 she said in one of the earlier seasons that if Adrien wasn’t in the picture she would give chat a chance. So I guess now that she’s really trying to get over Adrien she’s opening herself up to him.
@@Zvwry Exactly, i feel like people tend to forget that Marinette has a reason for the things she does. Like she'd never outwardly malicious to anyone unless she feels like they aren't respecting her (Chloe being rude, , Chat continuing to flirt with her even after she said to stop). Like yes she can be awkward and cringe but she's not mean or a bad person like people try to make her out to be.
This love square is killing me physically, emotionally, mentally, spiritually and whatever the fuck else there is
Eldritchly?... i don't know, that is the closest thing i can think of.
This episode, to me, exist only for 2 purposes: Confirming the reverse love square and justifying the wax statue kiss. They could've add so much more here, like when Chloe mocks Ladybug, Chat Noir reminds Chloe she sided with Hawkmoth in Miracle Queen. Seriously, one of these days, they will have to remind her of that.
Overall, just a decent episode. Love Luka and Kagami's role here, and love Manipula's design. 6/10
Definitely thrilled you did this review. Seriously, the writers destroyed Adrigami and Lukanette for this stupidity?! Well anyway, loved Kagami being the best wingwoman for both her Adrien and Luka's Marinette. Honestly, as much loathing as Kagami, Felix, Lila and Luka get these 4 are the most well written characters. That's crazy in a nutshell.
Which stupidity?
@@vladimir3905
Sorry that's a long distinguished list. But put simply. . . .
the whole Adrien and Marinette are meant to be thing. That they are "perfect" for one another.
Kagami and Luka themselves are now trying to get them together. Yet these two alone are doing better then most of Marinette's enablers since Season 1.
I agree mostly with you of course, but remind me when Lila and Luka were a well-written character?
@@cheyennecedeno6867 and how is that a bad thing?
@@kicherouf2037 Lila is just an evil girl, Luka is just a love interest without a personality and Felix is just an Adrien copy that's evil. The only well written character in this show is Nathalie
Tikki is 100% here for the drama lmao
Yeah fr she knows who chat is, but she just keeps her mouth shut and doesn't tell her to go for Adrian
@@cocopops7945 period lmaoo we love a messy queen
‘Now there’s two of them’ killed me 🤣
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
"We should not have made this bargain."
“How is this corrupt politician still in office!”
*looks at the American politics system.*
*TERRARIA'S CORRUPTION BIOME MUSIC STARTS PLAYING*
That wax scene is the most cursed thing ever
The feelings they have for each other is like a rollercoaster dude, too fast lmao
the Kagami and Luka segments are the best parts of the episode, honestly they should have more focus they are actually entertaining
Kagami's mum's too busy supervillaining to be overprotective these days
Yeah some fans are saying gabriel was learning to be less protective hell no he was completely focused on getting the dam miraculous he probably let Adrian go to school because it is filled with easy pray for akumatization he just needed to learn more about them incase he needed to induce negative emotions
Love how Chat noir is slowly becoming as useful or even more than ladybug
Well, Mariette is a fashion designers and all fashion designers in TV shows always have a random tape measure on them.
And here I was thinking she was a grown up version of Dora.
I find interesting watching this episode she was embarrassed by this day like all of us but was sweet to see adrien remembers it differently he thought it as a sweet day
This episode wasn't bad ,but considering the fact that Adrien falls inlove with Marinette and Marinette falls inlove with catnoir it could have been a bit more intense.
Oh my God, all they did was flip who was in love with who. Get ready for another 4 seasons of this before the actual reveal and they realize they're in love with one another.
I will say it's an improvement, with Mari falling for the real side of Adrien (Cat Noir) while Adrien fell in love with the real side of Ladybug (Mari), but I don't know if I can handle another 3-4 seasons of this poorly written romance between them.
Isn't season 5 the final season?
@@localtavernsluteplayer2182 Nope. I don’t know all the details but I believe they’ve confirmed at least 2 more seasons.
Oh my days with the end of season 5 it feels like they're going to dance around each other for another like 3 seasons. At this point the whole of Paris knows ladybugs identity, there's no point anymore 😭😭
The only way i’ll accept that marinette doesn’t like adrien anymore is if she is able to talk to him completely normally without any stuttering. Until that happens I’ll always think she’s just suppressing those feelings instead of having moved on.
Fair enough
Honestly, I paired Luka and Kagami, they’re too perfect for each other. One is cool headed, another is fiery, both equally passionate and wants love. And they look exactly like the humanoid ver of what the ladybug and cat Kwami could be in. Literal representation!
It might be an unpopular opinion, but to me, this is the best episode of season 5 so far. All of the other episodes that have been released are focussed on Marinette/Ladybug and Adrien/Cat Noir and have a very serious undertone, wich in my opinion is getting old. This episode has the typical "Miraculous-flair" that season 5 has been missing. Kagami wingmanning Adrien and Marinette panicking during the entire time was hilarious to me. And an episode revolving around your favorite cringe scene in Miraculous was just icing on the cake to me.
However, I wished they used more of the characters of the other seasons in season 5. I like that Kagami did something for the plot in this episode, and I don't mind characters like Veronique being introduced, but I wished they used more characters like Marinettes classmates and Luka during this season. Luka didn't do much in this episode (he just kept Marinette from running away), Alya is just a person who Marinette vents to, Chloe is just angry as for usual and most other characters didn't realy do much. I realy hope they'll get a better role in future episodes
Determination was a good but cringeful episode because of the whole Puppeteer 2 reminder that Marinette was EXTRA creepy and KISSED Adriens lips and she STILL laments this and is trying her damndest to move on, but now Adrien has feelings for her and he is trying to make a honest move on her, but they are easily getting in each other's way and the clock is still ticking on when they will actually just be a couple and stop this 4 SEASON dance of confusing emotions. Manipula was a interesting villain and she could've won had Cat Noir not re motivate Ladybug and her using all the Heroes powers to her disposal to clap the 2 and collect their miraculous, but her blundering caused her downfall. Also, REVERSE LOVE SQUARE is a things now and thus, my point for this episode now ends here.
Your reactions have me rolling. “Tikki, you little shit!”
"she must be loving all of this" 😂😂
Who is "she"?
@@lyndaazaleacheng3072 smarty pants (dont know the real name) said this about Tikki... that she must be loving this drama with marinette/Ladybug and adrian/Catnoir because she knows both of their Identities
I think think creators tried to gaslight us about wax statue scene being good because they weren't expecting how everyone felt cringy about it XD Well everyone still doesn't believe Adrien's feelings for Marinette started at museum but way before XD
I love the story pacing and that there’s like the MOST story ever, like season 3-4 and now 5 have just all improved in story line and progression which is amazing. But I am worried by the fast pacing release, like I was JUST processing the past few episodes still
4 and 5 yes
3 no
Aw poor 3 it gets hate more than it deserves like yeah they were milking it and sure it’s not my top 3. I think it was just a weird season of stagnation. And it limited itself with the whole gotta go run off to Fu. But it does have some of my favorite episodes like Silencer Kwamibuster and obvy Chat Blanc.
It just needed to be shortened or had a little more thought into some of those low tier episodes. Cuz it’s kind of a roller coaster where some are great and others I forget exist until I rewatch. Then I’m like oh yeah no the hates not unjustified. Looking at u stormy weather 2. Bruh it has a volcano but we don’t even get to see it be used!! 😡
I feel like this was the pacing we've been missing that's why we're not used to it
1:59 “Then kagami continues to be the most *based* character in the entire franchise” if I wasn’t in a bathroom rn id be dying laughing
Yeah so is Marichat going to be as awkward as ladrien was before. And now ladrien will be more serious with witty banter? I find it funny how all it took for Marinette to completely ignore cat blanc was Felix deceiving her by impersonating Adrien to take the miraculouses.
The reverse was really shocking for me. This was something I had not expected after years of seeing Marinette fixate on Adrirn and Cat Noir fixate on Ladybug.
Just gotta say, mad respect for Kagami in this episode. She is not taking any of Adrien's crap and it's great.
I really thought they would've given Manipula the power of the Goat to create more wax staues, not the ox. Her design didn't indicate it would move in that direction at all. Hell, I expected the bee's powers to manifest in some way through wax encasing people -- she's just so yellow.
I'm sorry but the part where you talked about Chat Noir's first "action" was fucking hilarious 💀 I'm crying tears bro!!! Excellent review man, excellent! Also, not the writers actually having the balls to bring back this cursed scene AND ACTUALLY MAKE IT RELEVANT?!?!?! Only Miraculous 😭😭😭😭😭
I love his reaction to the cringe moments, I mean him saying Cat noir's first "action" was on a woman was very funny and sad.
3:14 ok but, imagine that was actually the statue she kissed. Was she just gonna stand there making out with Adrian’s statue!? I am cringing so hard😬🤢
Is it just me or are the episodes going too fast? Determination is still new but now we have Passion already.
And now reunion
we didnt have anything for 5 months thats why
So I *wasn't* the only one who felt that way!
The deal is that one is coming out pretty much every day
I enjoy it tbh I hate having to wait I’m VERY impatient and I’m use to just watching all the episodes in order and in a row sooo
Luka was one of the best parts of the episode. I really hate the out of order releases because the missing content takes away the hype of those two getting together
I personally think the Ox power should also be immune to the plans the lucky charms give you. Imagine the falling chandelier just does nothing to her lmfao
But the thing is, the lucky charm doesn't give you any plans. It's been shown that it's the user who makes it powerful, and Marinette is very good at thinking under pressure and coming up with creative, unorthodox solutions.
That's why she always uses her "lucky charm vision" when she isn't Ladybug (ex. In Scarabella). Adrien has been shown to use his own vision (I think in Oblivio?) But it's really just them thinking through how to get themselves out of a sticky situation
Unorthodox solutions> than the OX miraculous power
@@fantasan8540 That's a retcon to attempt to cover the fact that Ladybug was using that power in Sandboy after it was disabled. It was established in Troublemaker that the flashing visions are part of the lucky charm power.
It's hard not to be impressed with how much of a fight Veronique put up against monarch
I literally avoided puppeteer 2 because I didn't want to see the damn wax statue scene and then determination goes ahead and flashbacks to it for me to make me regret watching the series more and more
Dang… Catnoir became more of a chad everyone going for him.
11:00 NAHHH- HE DID NOT 😭😭😭
10:06 it’s because he doesn’t trust a villain to have control over time
Jesus... First that wax statue incident, now unintentionally getting his first bit of "action" from a cougar?
Either Adrian is gonna avoid museums & wax statues like the plague due to this running gag or he's secretly gonna have a thing for older women now.
I thought it was good. The stuff between cat and ladybug was really good and is back to old them which is nice to see. Them working together without fighting each other every two seconds is nice, but if they got rid of the really bad wax statue scene it be better. I only wanted to see that once not two times in the same episode. but yes it was good. Also Luca's line about everyone loving Adrian and him loving everyone back made me laugh. Any way I would give it an 8/10 it was good but things could have been improved in some places but still fun :)
it was definitely their intention to make us suffer with how often they brought up the wax museum scene this season 😭
My ranking of season 5 with reunion.
1. Jubilation 10/10
2. Passion 9.5/10
3. Multiplication 9.5/10
4. Reunion 9/10
5. Determination 7/10
6. Evolution 7/10
7. Destruction 5/10
I loved how Adrien and Marinette had completely different views about how the whole statue incident went down🤣
Also I don't care what anyone else says, Luka and Kagami would be a great couple, I really hope they have more scenes together and at least become good friends.🥰
I was legit blown away by the fact that this episode was actually based on a real person who runs this museum IRL-that’s really cool.
man ur videos r both great and funny af, this episode is hella intense im very curious now, just wished they uploaded the episodes in order
I think what's worse about the episodes being out of order...is that they had months to go with finishing the episodes BUT STILL GOT THEM OUT OF ORDER!
What made me sad about the hall of heroes is that Queen Bee should have been included. Her various akumatized forms should be in the hall of villains or whatever too, but Queen Bee was truly once a hero of the city, even if she stopped being a hero later. Facts are facts. She was a hero of the city once.
Ahhhh!!! I was waiting for your upload!!! This episode is actually pretty good
Chat noir being in love with Ladybug really gives him a boost in skills, kinda sad
But he is in his peak right now
I give villains a pass on them not knowing what the snake miraculous does because they literally can't see what it does. Second chance by it's nature means only those who know it's power beforehand and the person who uses its power know what it does and they don't really advertise it. Granted it doesn't excuse Gabe for not telling her. It's a similar case with the bunny we're not many people actually know about the bunny's power and it's always followed by weird time stuff.
Edit: also I guess second Chance has its 5 minute limit which I don't know how that affects Gabe as an adult user but realistically these fights take more than 5 minutes more often than they don't so he can't just second chance it.
Those doors in the museum close almost like the airlocks in star wars.
Omg I f-ing love the way you make these videos the commentary is so hilarious
Tikki is probably having the time of her life at this point
Adrien is Marinette 2.0 now because he’s acting just like her but a little bit better
I really enjoyed this episode. As soon as I watch it, I come to your channel to watch a review, they're hilarious, haha!
I think this season is starting very well, there's coming a lot of drama, lets all hope it doesnt ends in a bad way xd
I love your reviews! Personally this is my favorite so far ♡
i think that the episode was pretty... fiiiiiiiiine!
i can see where it could be better, but it has the stuff i like, also...
while i know that in the scene where ladybug and cat noir fight the fake heroes, they fight with wax figures, but honestly, i find the way they just snap most of them figures in half and other "cut to pieces" stuff pretty darn BRUTAL (the way i see violence can even go to quite literally sentient wax figures... Therapy time?)
While watching this episode I felt the need to slap Marinette, she just annoyed me so much- he finally shows interest but she’s now like nahhhh, it feels so forced from the writers perspective… why, why, arghhh I knew I am gonna comment that under your future video.
Stan Kagami and Luka, the aro/ace besties that have to deal with their other friends chaotic lives lifes
5:29: They REALLY should have instead brought up their moments in the New York special, it would have made more sense. It's far less cringey than her kissing a statue and they both consented to it, so it isn't that weird or awkward for them. It also happened WAY more recently (before S4) than the statue kiss moment did in S3.
The episode was great and all, but that moment was hella weird and cringe... 😬
Why doesn't Gabriel ever think smart? Why doesn't he just Akumatize himself and give himself the ability to summon the miraculous to him? He seems to be able to do ANYTHING with his power, including stealing and/or emulating the power of every single miraculous, what are the limitations here???
Smooth brain strikes again 😊
It was best episode for me
I never had so much emotions before with any past episode and not even after
And...I think that Marinette is over thinking person I do it too and many times people are looking at me because they whould never thought about is
Its not wrong its differend then most people
Best episode review so far, I just died at some parts🤣🤣🤣 I almost look more forward to your reviews than episodes themselves😉😁 please keep on going
11:07 😂 had me on the floor
Btw s5e7 passion is out along with reunion ( s5e8)
It officially took them six years to do the intrest reversal trope. Im gonna guess that if they manage to get the resources, they will stretch out the inevitable to the 10 year anneversary... but still have it somehow be a fakeout.
This Title: Exist
Actual Undertale With Their Infinitely Better Writing: "Look at what they have to do to mirror a FRACTION of our power!"
I liked the episode in the first place, but your videos always make me love the episodes even more
It's crazy how Felix was the original character for cat noir and the personallilty was exactly how it was now. I ,mean he actually acted like Gabriel! Bro imagine that type of cat noir
Probably would look like Cat Walker
Everyone in Kitty Section: We definitely will get that record deal from Bob Roth!
Juleka: *Flashbacks to when her own BROTHER was akumatized as Silencer because Bob Roth scammed them*
It's like these characters get dumber by the day
5:47 the kwami of creation what did you expect she is alsow fashion designer so like probably had it on her
Aw, you didn't talk about Chloe's rant. Like I was so infuriated at her blaming Ladybug. Yes, you're right, Chloe, but you were the catalyst to her becoming Guardian and leading to all these risks being taken. And she keeps saying they would've won with Queen Bee, like girl, shut up. You should be grateful we haven't publicly announced your expulsion because you would've gotten akumatized again from the humiliation. 😤
Three things:
1. It’s kinda funny for André to assume that people seeing wax models of the heroes would make people depressed. Isn’t it a possibility that these people would be hopeful that these heroes would return one day and defeat Monarch?
2. I’m glad I’m not the only one who thinks that Gabe not giving the snake miraculous is stupid! If you give your villains the snake power, every villain you create will have a the second chance power.
3. If Manipula was able to use the Ox power of resistance to prevent getting Cataclysmed, Why did monarch do the same thing back in episode 3? WTF Gabe???!!!!!
the doors are a trap for Gabe if he found Marinette's house so they would have to be quickly accessed and moved quick so there is no actual time for him to escape
Kagami is my second favorite character
I just love the turn tables of the ships just yanking on the wheel
This is the longest will they won't they I've ever seen. And when the confession finally happens, she pretends to like the guy she broke up with. WHY?! XD
He was "feeling" before the wax statue make out scene, he told Plagg she is important to him wanting to make her happy and comfortable around him.
It obviously turned on a switch because all he remembered was the make out, but she remembered the rejection and he made a point of telling her the girl he is in love with doesn't like pranks either, like as if he was rejecting her softly so not to ruin their friendship
I dont have the strength to endure the actual show anymore so I'm just watching this 😭
Point on security for the hero exhibit: bringing inanimate objects to life or controling someone through their likeness are established akuma powers. Makes sense lowkey that the hero exhibit would have extra security
8:12 "After all miss, this is France!"
:/ them being in love with each other isnt exactly out of no-where. The first hints were last season.
I’m so glad that Kagami and Luka are not taking crap from them anymore and not in love with Adrian and martinet they bother deserve not to be used by them and need to find them self someone who will fully appreciate them and love them fully since martinet and Adrien never loved them in the beginning Luka and Kagami don’t deserved to be used and had every right to lock them up
The way he said “Action” 😂
Miraculous is one of those shows that you know gets really stupid but you still watch it anyway. I was cringe-ing a lot in many scenes oof
Facts
This has to be your funniest MLB review yet 😭
With all these episodes dropping rather quick... Kinda can't wait to see what the full/true timeline of the episodes... Not just what the LB bible says... And yes this episode was a bit cringe with talking about that scene always makes things awkward... And with the part you asked about how come Gabe doesn't just redo using Wayzz (? The snake) because there's a limit of what he can do with the Kwami's but still... He is perpetually a smooth brain in his plans to do anything lol cool review dude
Sass is the snake kwami Wayzz is the turtle
@@craigpeoples9883 ahhh okay thanks for the clarification
I thought it was sort of a mess with a few moments like chat noir losing his "purity" ring with a akumatised curator and unintentionally roasting lb with a besties remark.