I will say that it felt EXTREMELY satisfying to see Chat Noir beat up on Gabe. During the scenes with them fighting you could just hear the venom from Adrien. He is finally able to say all the things on his mind to his father and you can just tell that he is so fed up with how he has been treated. Also Gabriel being hit in the face with a tray was the best part of the episode. I laughed so hard.
@@tobbyman3d being Chat Noir at the time doesn't matter. The point is that he was able to say what he had been thinking and Chat Noir just gave him the ability to say it without fear of his father reaction
So felix discovered the entire plot of miraculous 😂 He knows that he and adrien are sentimonsters He knows where emile agresete is He knows the main villains identity hawkmoth And he knows the main heros identity ladybug
I wish Cat noir did more. Its so sad that Adrien is not allowed to find out things. The story is mostly about his family, so its weird how he is underutilized. Still an epic episode.😅
Do you know about the leaked finale ? Cause I'm telling you, you're in for so much my friend XD ..... Spoiler Leaked ending has him never find out his dad was a vilain. Gabriel wins and exchange his place for Emily's but Adrien never finds out but GUESS WHO DOES !!! Marinette dupain fucking cheng
It's such a compelling story to have Marinette know more about Adrien's family and about Adrien himself. I bet she will tell Alya as well. Such a satisfying story!!!!
@@kainightshade5033 taking the words rift out of my mouth. Mairnette isn’t allowed to be in the wrong between them, even a very local group of the fandom agrees with this. They say how Adrien is a horrible boyfriend and a bunch of other terrible things because he’s not always 100% on Marinette’s side. God I want a rewrite of this series so much, I’ve been here since the start too and man do I miss those season 1 days when everything was simple. I’m just so pissed at this show, every time it upsets me more and more yet I still come back to it thinking “this time, this time they’ll make up for everything” and they never do. Final straw was when the story document got leaked and yes I read it, mainly for the finale stuff. I have never been more pissed off at a show in my life. I try to keep the anger I have under control and not let it taint my enjoyment of other characters. But I’m too far gone, I absolutely despise Marinette now because of what she represents for me. She’s essentially become the spokesperson for all the garbage decisions and trash writing the show has to offer because she’s the main character. I used to like her, was hoping for a dynamic character who makes both right and wrong decisions and is rewarded and punished accordingly for them. But no got none of that, and I’ll add I understand that there are some consequences or at least I’ve been told she’s gotten but for me they’ve all been resolved too quickly, didn’t leave an impact, or were superficial at best. And don’t get me started on Chat Noir/Adrien, I absolutely adore him. I just got a poster signed by his va. He was my favorite character and still is, but the version that still is my favorite was from seasons ago. I can’t physically watch the new episodes anymore because of the writing and decisions being made with a character I love. I only watch reviews or recaps now. And my only is the fanfics I decide I enjoy. Cause damn the writing is so much better in a lot of them then this show. Sorry this got so long, it’s like a freakin essay. Didn’t realize I had this bottled up since I don’t discuss the show with anyone.
So they straight up told Mari that Gabe knows all about the miraculous and gave it to Felix's dad. like WHAT ?!??!? they litrally dropped the biggest hint..... Connect the dots MARINATTE !!!!
@@brodypl5804 probably a countinuation error knowing the writers of this show lol,i guess i forgot about this then,your probably right about this being a flop but then again you could also add this explanation so that people wont be confused and think you are wrong
Everytime Felix shows up in an episode, you know it's gonna be good. This guy single-Handley advanced the plot so much, and was responsible for Gabe getting all of the miraculous last season finale, and is gonna be responsible for the final showdown between Gabe and Marianntee this season finale.
If u (probably have) knew spoiler, felix don't even help LB against hawkmoth. And there's not an explanation for it. It's not like felix is controlled by hawkmoth. But after reveal everything. He just toss the work for LB?
@@Harumi27282 no cuz this is one of the main reasons why I hate felix so much. Like now he's all of a sudden an uwu misunderstood baka boy who wants to do good, why is he not doing anything about it. he has, in my opinion, one of the most powerful miraculous, why did he not use it at the start of the season?? heck, why did he give all the miraculous to gabriel in exchange for one when he could've just told ladybug he's shadow moth and then her and the team would've stormed him. this guy...
@@williamsteer2576 IMM SAYINGGG LIKE WTHH. i don't get how they can whip up a sob story for him last minute and redeem him yet refuse to redeem chloe and completely demonize her so much to the point where astruc attacks her FANS bc they claim she's SO unlikeable and if you like her you like abusers. LIKE CMON WHY DOES THIS GUY GET A PASS?? BC HE FELL IN LOVE WITH SOMEONE THAT'S NOT ADRIEN??? "because he wants to help ladybug now uwu" CHLOE WANTED TO HELP LADYBUG TOO AND LADYBUG REFUSED HER FOR BS REASONS THAT TURNED OUT TO BE IRRELEVANT LATER ON IN THE SERIES. on the topic of felix's motivations i completely agree with you, like this guy made things so UNNESSICARILY complicated and robbed the screen time of other superheroes who needed much-deserved development by stealing the miraculous😭
@@niqhtingale no cuz imo i don't think chloe deserved a redemption in the first place but like yeah if they were redeeming her they could've still went on with it. I don't like chloe for many reasons but her backstory makes sense to her bc it explains why her mum wasn't in season 1, why she has no friends etc. felix's was so obviously forced there in season 5 and is just so ''dramatic and sad'' that it's like ''he had the worst childhood ever now feel bad for him 🥺.'' and again if he's such a good person why doesn't he actually help ladybug like telling her who monarch is then saying ''oh just like beat up gabs cuz he's monarch'' instead of basically ghosting marinette while dressing up as adrien which is the last thing she needed to get her to follow you then to make an entire gsce drama performance 💀
It's crazy to me how Felix is the first character to find all the answers to these questions: Who is Hawk Moth/Shadow Moth/ Monarch? Who is a sentimonster? Why is Gabriel Agreste doing this? Where is Emily Agreste? Who is Ladybug?
Thing is... there has to be some reason Adrian isn't allowed to discover these things. Some mandate the writers are following. To make a long discussion short, Adrian and Cat Noir are never allowed to eclipse Ladybug in any respect. For some reason, despite his family being central to the Story, he's sidelined entirely. As a character he's been poorly used. Felix on the other hand, seems to be the stand in for Adrian, or what we want Adrian to be. He's good at combat, and a far more developed person then Adrian. It's like felix is everything Adrian should have become by now. I feel like the writers are using felix as a stand in because they can't or won't let Adrian take the spot light. I'm willing to bet Cat Noir isn't even allowed to show up for the final confrontation with Hawkmoth. I'll bet you Ladybug will take him down alone. My only hope is that for season 6, with Thomas no longer writing stuff, they can give Cat Noir a story line all to himself, where he is allowed to take the spot light and actually be Ladybug's equal. At the very least let the guy won battles on his own without needing ladybug to be there.
well i mean alya found out that mari is ladybug first Edit : now that I think about it the Robot girl from the New York special is the one to find out first ladybug AND cat noir's identity
@@Snikerpiker1but he is like the smartest character. The way he found out who hAwKy was and tho his reason was to get the peacock miraculous may be a lil bad. But when he realised that he shouldn’t have done that he felt the guilt and also apologised to a senti-monster. He is the one to shift the majority of the fandom’s perspective to senti-monsters!
it’s just so weird how adrien is under this tall ass pedestal of ladybug when without him there wouldn’t even be a story like pttf. it’s his dad that’s the main villain, his cousin that’s an antihero/plot development, and it’s HIM going up against his father/natalie (sometimes) and marinette was just basically born to fix and repair it all, and falling in love with adrien makes total sense and gives him more screen time but cmon don’t have so much weight on one side of the scale we need an episode just fully dedicated to adri/chat and just one battle where only he just goes full clap and with a lil bit of ladybugs help but idk 😅
Yeah I get that he needs more screen time, but I really think they should focus more on his strengths as Adrien. Adrien has the least freedom as his civilian self, so I'd really like an episode just dedicated to him with some sort or character development, possibly outside of the rings. Cat Noir fighting alone can happen more often too, but if Ladybug is not in the fight and just cleanses the Akuma, she has no reason to use her lucky charm. And no lucky charm means no miraculous ladybug means no damage reverse. And I think she said somewhere that the lucky charm is specific to every fight so she can't just summon one after a fight is over and then use that to heal the damage from a previous fight (when they went to new york and paris was destroyed or smth)
If u saw the animatic version, they had a lot more of a gooey look around the unicorn. It almost looked like a unicorn dying in a tar pit to me but it couldve been flames too. I guess it was too graphic for a kids show so they toned it down
I did wonder if it was a metaphor for the disease catching up to her. The death of her happiness as represented by the Unicorn. I would be generous and say that Juleka isn't just upset about her dad ditching her and clearly liking Luka better. I think she's worried she will be left alone. Jagged being just a symbol of that, sort of related to how she wants to be seen as an akuma.
Side note: Felix has my favorite look out of all the characters, given that it's not a bodysuit like the other teens. Though I wish they nixxed the hood.
I think the hood is cool, it’s better than getting his hair which I don’t think he’d want to reveal himself OR the other look of baldness which is even worse.
My greatest fear right now is that the final showdown, which SHOULD be Ladybug AND Cat Noir VS Gabriel, is going to end up being just Ladybug on her own and that Adrien will be completely sidelined and, as a result, doesn’t find out anything. I get that it would be traumatic to find out your father was Hawkmoth this whole time, but I feel he has a right to know. He needs to be given the chance to PROCESS that. Especially after how we saw him beat on Gabriel in this episode. God that was so cathartic to watch, Adrien calling Gabriel out on being a horrible father. I NEED more of that in the finale, with Adrien fully discovering just how atrocious of a person Gabriel really was. PLEASE, writers, we need this. Stop making Adrien an afterthought.
How do you even call it to question if Adrien is going to be relevant on the finale? Ofc he won't. He will never know anything. He can't for god knows what reason.
Also the writers don't have enough skills though,sorry. If u watch ninjago and know about lloydrumi, and u are a writer, then u realize it will really hard to fix a twisted lloydrumi relationship, make watchers accept the broken relationship as a director
@@Ysae791 Yeeeaahhh, I’m almost sure he won’t and it makes me so sad because I love his character and it really should be the TWO of them against Gabriel. They’re supposed to be a team. They always say you and me against the world, but when it actually matters, the writers go lol nah.
@@DZ_Mania_2024 Because ASSTRUCK and the writers don't want to give her redemption. ASStruc made it very clear, when that hate was flooding his Twitter. She is irredemable, we're dumb, he's smart, he makes the show, only he is right. (Bullcrap)
@@billykaplan9915 yeah she isn’t Felix who gets all the knowledge and went through a rough childhood. She’s a rich, spoiled brat who functions highly on emotion. You can’t expect her to redeem immediately. She’s the type that will side with the bad guy for power. Question is what causes her to redeem if they want her to do it
Ikr like cmon ik we love feminism and to show ladybug 🐞 she legit has everything fine she can have the lucky charm the power up with the little charms the another power up so she can’t de transform then she de akumatizes the akumas you know what fine she is the main character I’m not even that mad about that but like bro with cat noirs power up he still can’t Beat Gabe like cmon tho I was so exited for him to have his moment but then a bunch of 14 year old kids throw stuff at Gabe and he loses like he was dominating the fight until the nightmare personally I think he should of will powered thru it and won I’m a Girl I want ladybug to be an empowered woman lead let her win but don’t discredit cat noir and making him a damsel like You can make ladybug a strong character but make cat noir a bit strong too They don’t need to be on the same level at least let him be able to win one fight like cmon 😂😂😂😂
EXACTLY i dont think cat noir should even be considered in the title of the show because they made him utterly USELESS like ladybug can do everything herself so why tf does she need cat noir??and not to mention tbh cat noir/adrien should just be a backround character and ladybug should just take his miraculous and only give it to him when she needs him but she maybe wont because she doesnt care about him😭😭.
@@snowflake9783 she can't have the two miraculous together. The irony of the bad design of Cat Noir as a hero is that he saves the world if he doesn't use the miraculous and hides it from the villains at home, living his life .
I can't understand why NO ONE is talking more about the fact that Adrien STILL has that cat blanc nightmare that will strongly come into his mind from now on due to ladybug not using her lucky charm in the episode
I quite enjoyed the drama this episode brought. We finally got the Agreste backstory, the plot really progressing and Mari finding out Gabi is Monarch. What bugs me was what was Gabi going to do if he found Adrien and Marinette. He tried to find Mari to find Adrien. Like was he going torture Marinette until Adrien turned himself in? Was he going to torture both of them? I know Gabi is going crazy but that is really messed up to think about.
I wanna ask this. Was anyone satisfied with how light they made of the reveal that Kagami knew about Marinette's identity? Same thing for Marinette's reaction to Monarch's identity.
@@tobbyman3d The reveal that Kagami knew came completely out of nowhere. And I'm confused whether Marinette connected the dots about Monarch's identity or not.
@@everythinggirly916 It did, but I remember wondering how Kagami did not hear what was said and I’m glad to know that she did hear lol! Usually I dismiss it because they say compromising things in earshot of other people and nothing has came of it until now.
@@everythinggirly916 Exactly. It came outta nowhere and it didn't deliver any impact on me as the viewer because there was no hinting or foreshadowing towards her knowing before this episode. If it wasn't the same season, I'd say it was retcon. It's so lame, that they got rid of a good character like Luka for knowing their identities but left a dead beat extra like Kagami. And about her connecting the dots about Monarch's identity, it didn't seem like it at all. All she seemed to realize was that Felix was a sentimonster and maybe Kagami as well and she wanted to help them. To properly make us believe she understands that Gabriel is Monarch, they should've made her shocked, in disbelief, angry considering all the things he's done to her, Adrien and all even thinking back at Cat Blanc. It'd be an emotional moment. But nah, they just decided to make it unclear whether she understood or not.
One dumb thing that bothered me about this episode - we had the build up of Marinette making her own dress for the event.... and every single other character present is in their usual clothing. Marinette, in the dress, the smeared makeup, did make for a more dramatic moment but it just looked off, given no one else put in any effort to dress up.
Hey, remember how Felix was devastated bcs he created the Red Moon and had to snap it out of existence? Now he's creating a tripod that he creates solely for the purpose of Adrienette. Remember folks, murder is okay as long as it's for Adrienette Also, why haven't that akuma multiplying like rabbit on steroid during mating season? It took less than an hour in the Origin, so what gives?
@Dixie reign Paligumba The Akuma might only multiply if the Butterfly Miraculous user activates that ability. Remeber, Gabriel did not have his Butterfly Miraculous to control the akuma. Through out the series, Gabriel never got the chance to activate the multiplying ability again because Ladybug(or another Ladybug Miraculous user) always purifies it.
@@kainightshade5033 yes, but in Pretension, Felix told Kagami that he doesn't like the term sentimonster bcs he sees them as living beings. So, even if sentimonster can be non living things, Felix personally view them as living being, so this is some severe hypocrisy from him
Isn't anybody going to talk about the fact that Ladybug couldn't undo the effects of Nightormentor's nightmare gas with Miraculous Ladybug and that Adrien, Juleka, and Rose are probably inflicted with the nightmares *permanently* as a result?! Yeesh, that's horrible to think about!
@@MR_3001Yes. Because after what happened in season 4. Adrien really needs to suffer more. I swear Thomas asstruc. You'd better be fired soon. I'm sick and tired of you tormenting Adrien!
With now a total of 4 people outside of time travel knowing Marinette’s identity, there’s no reason for Adrien to know at this point as well. The other 4 knowing her identity is just as dangerous as Adrien knowing given that Marinette and Alya let it slip on their own.
I'm so confused as to why Nathalie looks way worse than Gabriel, like, how!? I do get that she got affected by the peacock's broken powers earlier, but Gabriel got hit by the most powerful force of destruction and he's just okay. Also, how come that the red dyed part of her hair is now grey? Does that mean that she's a natural firetruckredhead and dyes her hair dark blue or that she took the initiative of dying her red hair grey to make sure people see she's actually sick? Make it make sense.
Hello. I cannot speak about Nathaliie's health, she is dying because... Plot armor? Kind off (not a very good armor)... 🙂 About Gabriel's being "cataclysmed" (is this a word?), this makes very little sense! If the writers were true to it's meaning (power of Destruction!) Gabriel would have been dusted instantly! The argument "it affects people differently" can be countered with a well-placed "WHY?" WHY was Gabriel not vaporized instantly??? He is a living being! SOOOO??? He is slowly dying! WHY???? His life force / soul / chi / attitude / plot armor is fighting back! VS the power of DESTRUCTION??? It's like having a match (lit) fending off a tsunami, Gabriel should have been dusted instantly (period!)!!! But we wouldn't have a Season 5 so... Whatever! 😀
I do admit it’s so dumb that Kagami & Felix can know about Marinette’s secret but Luka gets written out. I just need to see it end in this season. If we can reset the world then it’ll be good to see it be completely different
Luka knew both lb and chats identity which is why he left, they only know ladybugs so far so it’s not rlly a problem (plus the season is abt to end so why would they get written out for knowing last minute..) luka just wasn’t interesting enough in the writers pov and they probably didn’t know what to do with him so 🤷
@@heaven5gate yeah I know Luka wasn’t interesting for the writers POV. Yes the season will end but he can still come back in S6 since something major in the finale will change the world the miraculous
13:10 I immediately thought of that too. Suddenly a jar is able to stop a akuma, so I guess everyone should have one and it will work better than ladybug keychain... ehh But there is one thing that bothers me even more - Why only Marinette in the whole class was dressed up for a party??? like whaaaaat
Akumas can't go through solid objects (this is shown several times in the show) and Zoey had no strong feelings for her to be akumatised while holding the jar.
@@pawu15aside from asking “where and when exactly did we see that” I also must ask, why can’t the Akuma just enter the jar anyway? Like Zoe can resist of course but the Akuma would still be there and could multiply. And I guess Gabe didn’t make use of that Akuma at all even though he could have an entire army of Akuma villains under his control. And like 5 of them could have Miraculous powers. Along with there being like no way for any of the heroes to figure out where he is. Honestly if any of that happened I guess it could be a pretty cool set up to the finale but that requires a few wrinkles in Gabe’s brain
@@dabest8777 In the episode "Startrain", Chloe traps the Akuma by sealing off the section of the train it's in. It also gets trapped in a suitcase at one point.
Genuinely sick of cat noir being so useless in the story, he is litterly just a hunk of meat for the female audience to drool over at this point,and despite his name being you know in the title he is just their to be a damsel in distress, nothing more nothing less. How frustrating
I’m sick of him being overshadowed too, but he definitely has been important to the story. There’s a lot of evidence I could say but he’s had the more eventful story this season.
Honestly, it's insulting to the whole audience. Nobody likes weak heroes regardless of gender. The only time Adrien got to be a hero was in Passion. That's why I love that episode. @Father Platypus no- don't tell me-
Even tough I liked this episode a lot, there were a few things that did bother me about this episode The first thing is a more general thing about this season, but it bothers me greatly that Marinette finding out about Gabe being Monarch and the backstory was handed to her by Felix. For the entirety of season 5, apart from the first 3 episodes, Ladybug and Cat Noir did nothing to recover the miraculous and find out about Gabe and Felix. All they did was beat the villains of the episode and do the romance thing. After losing the miraculous, I would've liked Marinette to put more focus on that herself instead of spending almost an entire season on her love life with Adrien/Cat Noir The thing that bothers me about the backstory is the whole heir to the throne thing. It kinda ruins Gabes motivation to revive his wife. If I understood the story correctly, Emily gave up the throne to Amelie, right? So if Gabe revives Emily, he can convince Emily to undo that? If so, can Adrien and Kagami become King and Queen (or wichever title it was, I don't remember)? Is that why Gabe and Tomoe want Adrien and Kagami to be a couple so bad? If so, it kinda ruins Gabes 'Depressed and desperate to get his dead wife back' motivation and turns him into a boring power hungry villain
Honestly, the romance this season felt really out of place. They made such a big deal out of Marinette having so much responsibility that she dumped Luka in season 4. And now, when monarch is more powerful than ever, she starts dating Adrien. If I were Luka, I'd be mad.
Unrelated but France is not a federal country, but a unitary (basically the whole country is a state, not several). Also, in many places (at least in Europe) mayors can candidate without being affiliated with any political party. Even so, some parties can still show support for a candidate even if they're independent.
Yep but ofc that's impossible to imagine a random teacher being elected to the city hall of Paris. It's considered as being a step before being president so for sure french political party would blackmail her and send her threats 😂 I mean she's not even famous in Paris or seemed to have done anything for the city. But yeah. Miraculous is stupid. Astruc doesn't take his job seriously. So she's gonna win and next season they'll live in a wonderful country with no more problems.
@@ysarmestr9198 It's not unheard of. Romania's current PRESIDENT used to be just a normal high-school/uni teacher in an average city of the country (then he became the mayor and then the president). Tho he went pretty much independent (or from a very MINOR party), he got the backing of one of the biggest parties.
Assuming the Andre was part or backed by a political party, after the very scandal of the video clearly said party would be trying to save their faces, so supporting Caline's candidacy would be quite a grace since she is seemingly way more wholesome and trustworthy. Also, she was akumatised due to corruption and it's fair the assume in this universe the media uses these akumatisations for content. If this lady was literally akumatised due to how much she HATES corruption, that's a good selling point for the voters.
You can only be akumtized if you are feeling intense emotions. Akumas have also been trapped before once in Sabrina’s suitcase and Ladybug held one under a bowl when multi mouse
I have mixed feelings about the cat noir scene because while i do not like that he got help from the other kids technically speaking cat noir beat him by himself. He overpowered him then got distracted and was hit with the nightmare spell or whatever you want to call it then the kids destracted gabe for like a couple of seconds then he recovered and destroyed the object holding the akuma. So yeah he mainly won on his own the kids only gave him the brief time and encouragement to recover. Still I would have preferred he beat him unaided especially since it shows him be actually stronger than gabe.
I really hate their insistence that "oh the world will end if they find out each other's identities..." Like NO, that's not how it works at all! The world never ends because they learn each other's identities, the world ends because Hawk Moth figures out their identities! And that would be less likely to happen if they had each other's backs and were ACTUALLY COMPETENT at keeping their identities secret! Like that one episode where Gabriel finds out all because he overheard Adrien say "m'lady," like that's all it took???
Adrien and Kagami are literally the most well known faces on the planet right now, they're the AI bots (Siri or Alexa) of the MLB universe... Everyone and their grandma is wearing their ring phone thing. Yes, they're like A list celebrities.
02:15 did you forget Adrian is basically this world newest Alexa hologram model??? And im pretty sure Lila was replaced by Kagame so lets call her Siri Yeah they may not act, but they must be pretty well recognized based on how wide spread the use of those phone rings has been
God you just made me go down a spiral of trauma at the thought of these teens being the equivalent of Siri/Alexa/etc with what ppl did to Samsung Sam. Goddang.
I'm surprised that Marinette doesn't take action at once when they told her who is Monarch and told them to help her end this. If they did the next episode would have been an epic end to Monarch in front of an audience while he's still akumatized. marinette goes to the Agreste mansion speaks to Natalie to know where the miraculous is, find and frees the kwamiis, and takes Emily's body. if they got some miraculous back she should give Kagami long and the three of them go off to end monarch once and for all. the Gorilla would take the sick Natalie and Emilie toward the eiffel tower. They beat and capture Gab, expose him, heal Natalie with the peacock and the ladybug miraculous together and finally gab goes to jail. I would love to see that but that's not going to happen.
Best ending so far! I'd add that Mari and Adrien know each other's identity, Adrien gets his mom back, everything gets revealed about his history and Master Fu gets back his memories. I miss Master Fu 😪
Waited! What? How does Kagami know Marinette's secret about her secret Ladybug identity? -Does this mean that the two episodes centered on her can go directly to the trash after this revelation? In the perfection episode she thinks she is not worthy of Marinette's friendship (this girl needs help) but the revelation should have put everything in perspective for Kagami? Right? -Why Félix didn't immediately reveal Gabriel's identity to Ladybug is Cat Noir in the Pretention episode. (put aside because it would have bent the plot) Why am I still hoping for something in this series 😞😞
@@everythinggirly916 Yeah it's already more logical in that sense, even if this romance seems a bit rushed and badly brought up at this stage of the story they must have had 3 interactions together and he finally only seems to like it for what it would be a sentimonster too, if it were a human he would have continued to be a genocidal asshole? But hey, at this point I'm just asking for the series to end and the movie to reboot it all!
Felix: I despise anyone who would use senti-monsters like tools. They're people too! Also Felix: I'm too dramatic for a straight forward conversation, better make a senti-monster whose sole purpose is to make backgrounds for me and my girlfriend's theatrical backstory performance.
so... did you just forget that felix wields the peacock? He can literally make a sentimonster to any design he wants. He just made one that can fly really fast. probably in the shape of a plane. We see later in this same episode he has no issue making sentimonsters to do things he needs done. Also Cat didn't need to go top speeds. he probably wanted to surprise marinette at the school dance, so timed his arrival for its' beginning.
Marinette just saw Felix told her that he gave all the miraculous to Monarch AND that he's Adrien's father; she doesn't understand a thing? Wow this girl is dumb! if she is the final hope against the villain, Paris is doomed! The city would be better in Luca's hands. He cares about his friends, his family and the city. If he had the miracle box, it would be hidden in a chest with a locker and a secret code. Lucas is smart, kind AND prudent. He would understand who Monarch is too 🙂I hope he will return, saved Marinette while Chat defeated the villain. That would be fun to see!
The story Felix and Kagami told in the storyboard was looking great, but yeah, in the final version it quite felt a bit off to me. I really like the graphics of this chapter, it does look really good, but again, the story Felix and Kagami told, while the backgrounds look really well, it feels like the quality fell there and I think that was supposed to be the strong part of this episode.
plus i think (since its a sentimonster), it looks almost like marinette couldnt get her eyes off the play, like it being a sentimonster was made that she was “under control” but yeah it was interesting the way it was put like that
Hell awaits us. Just show writers. Whichever one of you thought it was okay to sideline Adrien in the season 5 finale. Is going to have a bad time. Mark. My. Words.
I don't have a problem with Felix being a sentimonster. I thought it would make the show more interesting but it just rendered Adrien helpless to stand up against his father.
Don't forget there is an whole episode missing about queen Chloé the mayor between this and the last episode. Also 《adult are villain, childs are the hero》is somehow the basic for all of childish story 😂
Cat Noir, honestly should be combat superior to ladybug considering that Adrien is a fencer and is probably stronger and more agile, plus, he's more gutsy. But no, he has to get hit almost every time. I know he's emotional and rash in battle sometimes but they should cut down on this damsel in distress stuff. They could at least swap one of those times for him sacrificing himself again 😂. At least, it's kinda cool whenever he does that. But really, a buncha the story has been revolving round him but it's not like he's been playing any part in the story. So lame. Ladybug might be the main character but he's in the title too, his dad is the villain and he's a key character. Even sidekicks in shows get more done than him.
In the episode called "Representation", we get more footage of Juleka and Rose still being a "heavily implied" couple after five seasons with zero confirmation... only for Kagami and Felix to kiss each other on the lips twice in fifteen minutes when they literally met two episodes ago. Great job, writers, great job.
Well Rose did Kiss Juleka, (as well as implied they kissed again in Zombizoue) all be on the Cheek and they are French so, yeah they can excuse that to the markets that don't like that sorta stuff in their cartoons. Besides I kinda like Juleka and Rose being low key it makes them the best couple even if the occasionally screw it up with some "friendship" line that makes it look like Juleka is pining for her friend. Heck she's even outright sarcastic about it in Reflektdoll. Felix and Kagami did kinda "cut to the chase" maybe they should have implied they were dating the whole time more obviously since they met. Weird that neither of them seem overly bothered to find out they are not human though.
Honestly, my only gripe with this shit is how for so long, Rose and Juleka and Marc and Nathaniel only got subtle background stuff (Marc and Nathaniel even more so, Nathaniel even MORE so, bro has been shafted since episode 6), but in season 5, we get an onscreen lip kiss with Gisele and Caline, and Felix and Kagami getting together fast, only for them to still have the subtle gestures and Marinette literally RUNNING INTO MARC AND NATHANIEL'S PRIVATE MOMENT (I'm not mad at her about it, but damn, they can't even hold hands in a private corner without Adrien + Marinette shit interrupting it)
Luka: I can't be in a relationship with Marinette, I know she's ladybug and I'll put her in danger! I can't tell _anyone_ i have to LEAVE Paris. Kagami, to his boyfriend who she met like two weeks ago: yo you wanna know something cool :) mari's ladybug Felix: yoo that's so rad you wanna know who shadow moth is >:)
What doesn't make sense to me is...why is Adrien's worst nightmare related to Chat Blanc? He should have no idea that this form of him even exists since it seems Marinette/Ladybug NEVER told him about that alternate timeline. Surely it would make more sense for his nightmare to be never being able to escape his fathers influence.
I'm pretty sure he still doesn't know about Chat Blanc. I think the idea was that: he's afraid that will lose control of his power and cataclysm innocent people after what he did to monarch earlier this season
I almost liked Felix and Kagami this episode, then they totally lost me with the weird play lol. I love them separately but as a couple, it just feels like they were put together so the writers could use their combined knowledge to infomod the plot into moving forward. It's lazy and kinda upsetting they completely wrecked two interesting characters to be their godmodding inserts 😅
5:24 My theory is Felix managed to find out HIS miraculous' power, either his unique ability similar to how ladybug can make magical charms, the peacock could have some kind of "emotional" powerups. Like "Think a happy thought, gain flight" all peter pan style. Or learned how to make his own powerup foods for Duusu. I mean he did after all have Natalie's Tablet still, and with his smarts.. Would have been short work, especially with kagami to help to interpret the ingredients.
The Felixgami play explaining the backstory looked like it was a shoutout to the anime Revolutionary Girl Utena, which over the course of the series explains major plot points through shadow puppets interludes using fairy tale analogies. Very cool (if weird) to see Miraculous do this as well, I always love the hidden references to other shows within the show.
Akumas cant go through matter. In startrain the Akuma got trapped In Sabrina's bag. And for the akumatization to happen it needs a powerful emotion. So the entrapment of the Akuma is fine. No idea why it didnt multiply tho
I guess the butterfly knows it would die of suffocation if it summoned like 10 thousands butterflies in such a cramped space, thus killing them all and not akumatising anyone.
Just watched this episode and the last one back to back and damn... SAMG really putting the work in Representation. Lighting was the best it has ever been. Writing-wise, I'm glad that the plot has been moving this season and I generally like what they're showing, but I'm so cautious for the finale. They've fumbled so many times like with Luka's relevancy, or Gabriel's constantly changing motivation, or Lila's minimal screen time for the importance of her role, or just CHLOÉ in general. I'm so scared they will slip and fall at the finish line.
SPOILERS BELOW: If you thought this episode was bad for Cat Noir, hate to break it to you, but this was his finale with Gabriel, and for the first five seasons. He spends both episodes of the finale crying in a cage.
The writer writing that scene thinkign is be mind blow and art Meanwhile same writers who keep say this is a kids show This was the payoff for all this ....wow , and we still have few eps missing , legit , Miraculos is the only show i know that have this chaotic schedules, lituraly anything else is delay or a hiatues , but nope, there drop what ever ep
I'm betting Felix used a traditional plane, set up by his mother, after he got Kagami. It's probably a very short trip compared to places like New York or Shanghai from the specials.
The funniest part of the episode was Gabriel being hit in the face with a tray. I laugh every time. The episode was great but i wish revolution came out earlier before this episode rather than on 17th of June. It is near the ending and like how can they do that. This episode was really good for me with passion, pretension and collusion but if revolution was there then it would have felt more better as it the episode between collusion and representation and well the last few episodes are like really connected and to intense. Also hands off to Kagami in keeping such a massive secret from Monarch in both perfection and protection, especially the latter as well she got manipulated into getting angry with Marinette for a brief time.
Spoiler alert for legit the next episode. Her brain is a lil slow to process, but she eventually does come to the realisation and sends a message to the cat phone. However he doesn't end up receiving it as Mari somehow ends up with both miraculous.
Definitely glad you did this video. The backstory thing yeah I agree. Amazing they finally gave points. Tho it's stupid is wasn't done sooner or broken through episodes. Anyway, Kagami knows Marinette is Ladybrat okay better. They did Luka dirty so having Kagami know at least Bug (I wished it was Cattastic Kitty Cat Noir she knew instead) still it's something the writers actually did right. GABRIEL AND TOMOE NEED TO ROT IN JAIL!! Damn forever the captain of Adrigami. Her and Felix don't feel just feel rushed and forced as Adrien and Marinette garbage. Anyway, all have a blessed Monday June 12, 2023 at 11:04AM today. 🌸🌸🌸🌸
@@kainightshade5033 The endgame has been known forever. I was never a fan of the two protagonists romantically together. Misunderstood badly, the backstory Kagami and him told Marinette is the only thing interesting. Kagami and him romantically together makes no sense similar to Adrien and Marinette just the same. Adrigami - OTP Lukanette Ninoé (Nino/Zoé) Marc/Juleka Nathaniel/Lila Prince Ali/Rose Kim/Alix CANON MEANS VERY LITTLE TO ME!! 😏😜😏😜🌸🌸🌸
One thing I need to say: Adrien is not a Sentimonster because Gabriel said “After months of study” in the play. This means that Emilie miraculously got pregnant and didn’t need the Peacock Miraculous at all.
Here are my theories: - I feel like Natalie will end up revealing gabriel’s identity.. somehow. - The heroes would get quite mad at felix since he didn’t say he knew gabriel was monarch.
Why does everyone assume that Adrien is Cat Blanc in his nightmare? Gabriel calls him 'Anti-Cat'. Plus, if he WAS Cat Blanc, wouldn't his hair be white and eyes blue? That's not the case in this episode.
Smarty Pants, really sorry if you already know that but this episode is episode 24 and 23 is skipped. It is called Revolution and will be released on june 17th. So Adrien got in the plane and left on-screen but we just didn't see it yet.
I felt like the episode was lowkey anticlimactic... so many big reveals but the way they were done were so weird and outta the blue, and then marinette's reaction them was just "oh cool" like i didn't hate the episode but half the time i was watching it was just "R U SERIOUS RN?? 😐"
WAIT did Ladybug ever tell Chat Noir about Chat Blanc???? HE HAS NO IDEA WHAT HAPPENED????? Oh shit he's going to be really mad when Ladybug finally confesses that she kept that from him.
No... she never told him about it and that was also the cause of Ladybug's estrangement from Cat Noir, it's just a recycling of appearances that came out of nowhere and Cat Noir could have kept the black dye that it would not have changed the situation except to create an inconsistency on information that had not been disclosed to the latter!
@@FeligamiAdrizoeSworaDennisFan Yeah, me too. They actually started to think that Mary Sue characters like Marinette/Ladybug could do no wrong and somehow tries to find everything wrong with Adrien/Cat Noir. I mean, that hate is something else with them not being able to understand that Marinette had done some wrong things and refuse to acknowledge that fact.🙁
Am I the only one pissed off at Ladybug?! The one time she actually forgets to do her miraculous ladybug cure and it's really bad! Like 3 people have horrid nightmares because you didn't do your damn job Marinette!
@@FeligamiAdrizoeSworaDennisFan To be fair, it looks like she recieved the message only when she came back home. And she know there was a villain, given that the Sentimonster seemed to show her all that in her sleep
Hello! Great review with excellent points! For a change I think this is one of the best episodes in Season 5 (my opinion), yet the bar is underground so... The good. It explains 50% of the series (yay?). 🙂 The bad. IT EXPLAINS 50% OF THE SERIES!!! Is this what Thomas had in mind since the beginning??? Having Felix (and Kagami) tell Marinette that "Gabriel is the bad guy"? It is beyond lazy, plus it points out that Heroes are ultimately incompetent (they even need the writers help! - literally!!!)! But I am tired of waiting so... Whatever... The nonsense (because we cannot have a S5 episode without nonsense)... Why didn't Monarch try to akumatize Marinette? How come Alia survived being thrown meters away with not even a single scratch? Out of a ton of powers Monarch could have given himself, why nightmares (the ones that people could "attitude their way out!")??? So teenagers can effectively fight akumatized villains from now on??? Yes, I know... PLOT ARMOR ON ON ON!!! *** New suggested name for the Show: "Felix and Kagami RULE!!! ... And some kids with powers, whatever..." Waiting for Season End, have a great start of week!
@@Harumi27282 Thank you for messaging back, here's my feedback. 1. Gabriel is known to prepare the ground to akumatize people by promoting negative emotions and he should know that taking away Adrien would cause Marinette grief (remember Chat Blanc?). So yes, I agree he cannot target Marinette from UK (what is the range for his powers anyway? who knows...), all he had to do was be around Paris (not a big deal, he can teleport) and wait for Marinette to crumble. 2. I disagree. ML is a cartoon that follows real-world physics with concessions (this is not Looney Toons... I hope!). There have been people with sprained ankles (a writer's favorite) and real concerns about falling from a skyscraper. Am I being picky? Maybe a little, but if non-powered teenagers can be thrown to brick walls with enough force to crack them and they don't get hurt (it was the helmet!) then I don't get why characters are concerned about being run by a car (happened many times!). 3. I disagree. Monarch may not choose the power, instead this is defined by the target's profession / hobbies / specialties and/or problem at the time (it is not random). In the past Gabriel akumatized himself with the power to retrieve items / objects / people (the Collector!), so I was kind of expecting a similar power for this occasion (he wanted to retrieve Adrien). So... Why nightmares? Was Adrien supposed to come with him if he gave him a nightmare? it's the opposite of retrieving! To make things worse, this is one of those "I have attitude so I won't succumb to you!" kind of power so again, why nightmares? .. We know the answer. 🙂 Have a great Monday!
1:45 to be fair. If Paris had a hostile takeover by a child irl after the mayor resigned, I think that be international news. And by extension, it would be to weird to briefly speak about the next election after that was resolved.
AMAZING episode. 10/10 Probably my fav episode in terms of storytelling. Great character devolpement, fantastic animation and the ending was insane. It's definitely a TOP 10 Miraculous episode...
Gabriel was only stringing Natalie along taking advantage of her love for him telling her what she needed to hear to keep her on his hook so she'd keep helping him, and now that she is physically unable to help him she is utterly useless in his evil wicked heart Spoil Alert with my theory Gabriel kept using the Sass to try to win but had to stop using it because he didn't reverse with the others and for some reason Natalie moved forward with him they both suffer the affects of time moving on Everyone got hit by NightTormentor except (Tomaeo Lyla and Felix I'm actually wondering where they were to not be affected by the nightmare smoke?), Did Ladybug tell him about Cat Blonc? Because his nightmare is almost the same?
Someone said in thr community post that mari fixed everything with the lucky charm, but she didnt, she wasnt in the battle to make one to begin with, therefore chat still has the nightmare of turning into chat blanc again, just to clarify :))
alternate miraculous (horrible) ending: the whole timeline of the show gets erased and we are forced to watch it all again but with very slight differences just because Thomas wants to remake the episodes that were bad
I will say that it felt EXTREMELY satisfying to see Chat Noir beat up on Gabe. During the scenes with them fighting you could just hear the venom from Adrien. He is finally able to say all the things on his mind to his father and you can just tell that he is so fed up with how he has been treated. Also Gabriel being hit in the face with a tray was the best part of the episode. I laughed so hard.
@@kainightshade5033Slay!!! SLAY!!!!😎😎😎😎😎
But remember he was cat noir
@@tobbyman3d being Chat Noir at the time doesn't matter. The point is that he was able to say what he had been thinking and Chat Noir just gave him the ability to say it without fear of his father reaction
@@flowercrown-eevee Well, that's what I mean. If he was Adrien, he wouldn't have said any of that.
@@tobbyman3d that is true. And it's sad
So felix discovered the entire plot of miraculous 😂
He knows that he and adrien are sentimonsters
He knows where emile agresete is
He knows the main villains identity hawkmoth
And he knows the main heros identity ladybug
Felix wins Miraculous lol
@@kainightshade5033 he had a majority of the story from the get go. Don’t blame him for winning it. Dude lived most of it.
Basically yeah Felix is literally my favorite character though we rarely see him
@@kainightshade5033??? He did?
@@kainightshade5033 no 🤔. It's been forever ago...
I wish Cat noir did more. Its so sad that Adrien is not allowed to find out things. The story is mostly about his family, so its weird how he is underutilized. Still an epic episode.😅
Do you know about the leaked finale ? Cause I'm telling you, you're in for so much my friend XD
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Spoiler
Leaked ending has him never find out his dad was a vilain. Gabriel wins and exchange his place for Emily's but Adrien never finds out but GUESS WHO DOES !!! Marinette dupain fucking cheng
@@mimimagic1895I've seen the leaks. And trust me. I'm trying to hold back my anger.
It's such a compelling story to have Marinette know more about Adrien's family and about Adrien himself. I bet she will tell Alya as well. Such a satisfying story!!!!
@@kainightshade5033 I have never felt my own rage at this show in someone else’s comment before. Glad I’m on the same wavelength as someone else
@@kainightshade5033 taking the words rift out of my mouth. Mairnette isn’t allowed to be in the wrong between them, even a very local group of the fandom agrees with this. They say how Adrien is a horrible boyfriend and a bunch of other terrible things because he’s not always 100% on Marinette’s side. God I want a rewrite of this series so much, I’ve been here since the start too and man do I miss those season 1 days when everything was simple.
I’m just so pissed at this show, every time it upsets me more and more yet I still come back to it thinking “this time, this time they’ll make up for everything” and they never do. Final straw was when the story document got leaked and yes I read it, mainly for the finale stuff. I have never been more pissed off at a show in my life.
I try to keep the anger I have under control and not let it taint my enjoyment of other characters. But I’m too far gone, I absolutely despise Marinette now because of what she represents for me. She’s essentially become the spokesperson for all the garbage decisions and trash writing the show has to offer because she’s the main character. I used to like her, was hoping for a dynamic character who makes both right and wrong decisions and is rewarded and punished accordingly for them.
But no got none of that, and I’ll add I understand that there are some consequences or at least I’ve been told she’s gotten but for me they’ve all been resolved too quickly, didn’t leave an impact, or were superficial at best.
And don’t get me started on Chat Noir/Adrien, I absolutely adore him. I just got a poster signed by his va. He was my favorite character and still is, but the version that still is my favorite was from seasons ago. I can’t physically watch the new episodes anymore because of the writing and decisions being made with a character I love.
I only watch reviews or recaps now. And my only is the fanfics I decide I enjoy. Cause damn the writing is so much better in a lot of them then this show.
Sorry this got so long, it’s like a freakin essay. Didn’t realize I had this bottled up since I don’t discuss the show with anyone.
So they straight up told Mari that Gabe knows all about the miraculous and gave it to Felix's dad. like WHAT ?!??!?
they litrally dropped the biggest hint..... Connect the dots MARINATTE !!!!
Marinette definitely knew exactly the identity of the Monarch in this story.. I'll have to do a review and analysis of all the plot subtleties.
@@Lommany She didn't. I'm very sorry, but she didn't figure it out
Why do you think her costume is all dots? Bcs she never connect any of them
@@brodypl5804 how?i watched the finale too(leaked) ad its pretty clear she does!
@@brodypl5804 probably a countinuation error knowing the writers of this show lol,i guess i forgot about this then,your probably right about this being a flop
but then again you could also add this explanation so that people wont be confused and think you are wrong
Everytime Felix shows up in an episode, you know it's gonna be good. This guy single-Handley advanced the plot so much, and was responsible for Gabe getting all of the miraculous last season finale, and is gonna be responsible for the final showdown between Gabe and Marianntee this season finale.
If u (probably have) knew spoiler, felix don't even help LB against hawkmoth. And there's not an explanation for it. It's not like felix is controlled by hawkmoth. But after reveal everything. He just toss the work for LB?
@@Harumi27282 no cuz this is one of the main reasons why I hate felix so much. Like now he's all of a sudden an uwu misunderstood baka boy who wants to do good, why is he not doing anything about it. he has, in my opinion, one of the most powerful miraculous, why did he not use it at the start of the season?? heck, why did he give all the miraculous to gabriel in exchange for one when he could've just told ladybug he's shadow moth and then her and the team would've stormed him. this guy...
@@williamsteer2576 IMM SAYINGGG LIKE WTHH. i don't get how they can whip up a sob story for him last minute and redeem him yet refuse to redeem chloe and completely demonize her so much to the point where astruc attacks her FANS bc they claim she's SO unlikeable and if you like her you like abusers. LIKE CMON WHY DOES THIS GUY GET A PASS?? BC HE FELL IN LOVE WITH SOMEONE THAT'S NOT ADRIEN??? "because he wants to help ladybug now uwu" CHLOE WANTED TO HELP LADYBUG TOO AND LADYBUG REFUSED HER FOR BS REASONS THAT TURNED OUT TO BE IRRELEVANT LATER ON IN THE SERIES.
on the topic of felix's motivations i completely agree with you, like this guy made things so UNNESSICARILY complicated and robbed the screen time of other superheroes who needed much-deserved development by stealing the miraculous😭
@@niqhtingale no cuz imo i don't think chloe deserved a redemption in the first place but like yeah if they were redeeming her they could've still went on with it. I don't like chloe for many reasons but her backstory makes sense to her bc it explains why her mum wasn't in season 1, why she has no friends etc. felix's was so obviously forced there in season 5 and is just so ''dramatic and sad'' that it's like ''he had the worst childhood ever now feel bad for him 🥺.''
and again if he's such a good person why doesn't he actually help ladybug like telling her who monarch is then saying ''oh just like beat up gabs cuz he's monarch'' instead of basically ghosting marinette while dressing up as adrien which is the last thing she needed to get her to follow you then to make an entire gsce drama performance
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No, I have to disagree
It's crazy to me how Felix is the first character to find all the answers to these questions:
Who is Hawk Moth/Shadow Moth/ Monarch?
Who is a sentimonster?
Why is Gabriel Agreste doing this?
Where is Emily Agreste?
Who is Ladybug?
Kagami find Ladybug's identity
Thing is... there has to be some reason Adrian isn't allowed to discover these things. Some mandate the writers are following.
To make a long discussion short, Adrian and Cat Noir are never allowed to eclipse Ladybug in any respect. For some reason, despite his family being central to the Story, he's sidelined entirely.
As a character he's been poorly used.
Felix on the other hand, seems to be the stand in for Adrian, or what we want Adrian to be. He's good at combat, and a far more developed person then Adrian. It's like felix is everything Adrian should have become by now.
I feel like the writers are using felix as a stand in because they can't or won't let Adrian take the spot light.
I'm willing to bet Cat Noir isn't even allowed to show up for the final confrontation with Hawkmoth. I'll bet you Ladybug will take him down alone.
My only hope is that for season 6, with Thomas no longer writing stuff, they can give Cat Noir a story line all to himself, where he is allowed to take the spot light and actually be Ladybug's equal.
At the very least let the guy won battles on his own without needing ladybug to be there.
well i mean alya found out that mari is ladybug first
Edit : now that I think about it the Robot girl from the New York special is the one to find out first ladybug AND cat noir's identity
@@pinkyinroblox7256 Marinette TOLD Alya that she was ladybug tho. Not the same.
@@ahmadalamin9431 yes but still she was still the first one to find out
I just know Felix's back be hurting after carrying the entire show on his shoulders
Or Carrying Kagami all the way from London to Paris (some how)
Every episode he is in is good bc of him and only him. Best character next to Chat Noir
Well, he has Luka to share it with , right?
@@estherkamara6722 the dude commited genocide and then acted like a baby when Adrien told him off. He's a piece of craap lmao
@@Snikerpiker1but he is like the smartest character. The way he found out who hAwKy was and tho his reason was to get the peacock miraculous may be a lil bad. But when he realised that he shouldn’t have done that he felt the guilt and also apologised to a senti-monster. He is the one to shift the majority of the fandom’s perspective to senti-monsters!
it’s just so weird how adrien is under this tall ass pedestal of ladybug when without him there wouldn’t even be a story like pttf. it’s his dad that’s the main villain, his cousin that’s an antihero/plot development, and it’s HIM going up against his father/natalie (sometimes) and marinette was just basically born to fix and repair it all, and falling in love with adrien makes total sense and gives him more screen time but cmon don’t have so much weight on one side of the scale we need an episode just fully dedicated to adri/chat and just one battle where only he just goes full clap and with a lil bit of ladybugs help but idk 😅
Yeah I get that he needs more screen time, but I really think they should focus more on his strengths as Adrien.
Adrien has the least freedom as his civilian self, so I'd really like an episode just dedicated to him with some sort or character development, possibly outside of the rings.
Cat Noir fighting alone can happen more often too, but if Ladybug is not in the fight and just cleanses the Akuma, she has no reason to use her lucky charm. And no lucky charm means no miraculous ladybug means no damage reverse. And I think she said somewhere that the lucky charm is specific to every fight so she can't just summon one after a fight is over and then use that to heal the damage from a previous fight (when they went to new york and paris was destroyed or smth)
I think that Rose's worst nightmare was a unicorn getting injured because you can see some red lines that look like scars.
I kinda thought it was a unicorn being mean to her or smth cos it was looking at her in a mad way kinda idk 🤷♀️
I interpreted as something more broad, like animals getting hurt or smt like that
If u saw the animatic version, they had a lot more of a gooey look around the unicorn. It almost looked like a unicorn dying in a tar pit to me but it couldve been flames too. I guess it was too graphic for a kids show so they toned it down
I did wonder if it was a metaphor for the disease catching up to her. The death of her happiness as represented by the Unicorn. I would be generous and say that Juleka isn't just upset about her dad ditching her and clearly liking Luka better. I think she's worried she will be left alone. Jagged being just a symbol of that, sort of related to how she wants to be seen as an akuma.
@@KarahKatin that case, don’t let Rose watch Guardians of the Galaxy 3. I saw it and loved it, but you don’t wanna know about rocket’s past.
Side note: Felix has my favorite look out of all the characters, given that it's not a bodysuit like the other teens. Though I wish they nixxed the hood.
I think the hood is cool, it’s better than getting his hair which I don’t think he’d want to reveal himself OR the other look of baldness which is even worse.
@@savidalu193 the problem with the hood is that it doesn't work very well with his fancy suit and it makes him look silly
Honestly I think the hood would've worked better if was wearing a sorcerer costume, and the sorcerer theme would make alot of sense with his powers.
I like the hood and I do like his hero design. Though the bodysuit thing is over used the designs on the bodysuits are always super 😊
I like his hood and coat but his hair would have been better staying blonde, or atleast blue of something like the green came outta no where
My greatest fear right now is that the final showdown, which SHOULD be Ladybug AND Cat Noir VS Gabriel, is going to end up being just Ladybug on her own and that Adrien will be completely sidelined and, as a result, doesn’t find out anything. I get that it would be traumatic to find out your father was Hawkmoth this whole time, but I feel he has a right to know. He needs to be given the chance to PROCESS that. Especially after how we saw him beat on Gabriel in this episode. God that was so cathartic to watch, Adrien calling Gabriel out on being a horrible father. I NEED more of that in the finale, with Adrien fully discovering just how atrocious of a person Gabriel really was. PLEASE, writers, we need this. Stop making Adrien an afterthought.
How do you even call it to question if Adrien is going to be relevant on the finale? Ofc he won't. He will never know anything. He can't for god knows what reason.
Also the writers don't have enough skills though,sorry.
If u watch ninjago and know about lloydrumi, and u are a writer, then u realize it will really hard to fix a twisted lloydrumi relationship, make watchers accept the broken relationship as a director
And mlb s writers just bad at develope character hardship family situation
@@Harumi27282 I LOVE Scarlet Lady!! I’m a little behind on it, but it’s soooooooo good!!
@@Ysae791 Yeeeaahhh, I’m almost sure he won’t and it makes me so sad because I love his character and it really should be the TWO of them against Gabriel. They’re supposed to be a team. They always say you and me against the world, but when it actually matters, the writers go lol nah.
felix got the redemption arc that chloe deserved
Fr. Like- one episode he's evil tiny thanos, and legit the following episode he is uwu good misunderstood crybaby, and now he's just full on good
How do you know Chloe won’t get a future redemption arc in a later season?
She may not have hit rock bottom yet.
@@DZ_Mania_2024 i think she can only redeem when she do
@@DZ_Mania_2024 Because ASSTRUCK and the writers don't want to give her redemption. ASStruc made it very clear, when that hate was flooding his Twitter.
She is irredemable, we're dumb, he's smart, he makes the show, only he is right. (Bullcrap)
@@billykaplan9915 yeah she isn’t Felix who gets all the knowledge and went through a rough childhood. She’s a rich, spoiled brat who functions highly on emotion. You can’t expect her to redeem immediately. She’s the type that will side with the bad guy for power. Question is what causes her to redeem if they want her to do it
Cat Noir is one of the best characters in the show! And they never use him. It’s so sad
Ikr like cmon ik we love feminism and to show ladybug 🐞 she legit has everything fine she can have the lucky charm the power up with the little charms the another power up so she can’t de transform then she de akumatizes the akumas you know what fine she is the main character I’m not even that mad about that but like bro with cat noirs power up he still can’t Beat Gabe like cmon tho I was so exited for him to have his moment but then a bunch of 14 year old kids throw stuff at Gabe and he loses like he was dominating the fight until the nightmare personally I think he should of will powered thru it and won I’m a Girl I want ladybug to be an empowered woman lead let her win but don’t discredit cat noir and making him a damsel like You can make ladybug a strong character but make cat noir a bit strong too They don’t need to be on the same level at least let him be able to win one fight like cmon 😂😂😂😂
EXACTLY i dont think cat noir should even be considered in the title of the show because they made him utterly USELESS like ladybug can do everything herself so why tf does she need cat noir??and not to mention tbh cat noir/adrien should just be a backround character and ladybug should just take his miraculous and only give it to him when she needs him but she maybe wont because she doesnt care about him😭😭.
@@snowflake9783 she can't have the two miraculous together. The irony of the bad design of Cat Noir as a hero is that he saves the world if he doesn't use the miraculous and hides it from the villains at home, living his life
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I can't understand why NO ONE is talking more about the fact that Adrien STILL has that cat blanc nightmare that will strongly come into his mind from now on due to ladybug not using her lucky charm in the episode
I KNOW!!,!!!
And everyone else too, like Juleka and Rose. Although their nightmares were less uh, serious, especially Rose's.
I quite enjoyed the drama this episode brought. We finally got the Agreste backstory, the plot really progressing and Mari finding out Gabi is Monarch. What bugs me was what was Gabi going to do if he found Adrien and Marinette. He tried to find Mari to find Adrien. Like was he going torture Marinette until Adrien turned himself in? Was he going to torture both of them? I know Gabi is going crazy but that is really messed up to think about.
I think he was going to make Marinette live her nightmare and force Adrien to obey him if he wanted him to stop.
I wanna ask this. Was anyone satisfied with how light they made of the reveal that Kagami knew about Marinette's identity? Same thing for Marinette's reaction to Monarch's identity.
@@tobbyman3d The reveal that Kagami knew came completely out of nowhere. And I'm confused whether Marinette connected the dots about Monarch's identity or not.
@@everythinggirly916 It did, but I remember wondering how Kagami did not hear what was said and I’m glad to know that she did hear lol! Usually I dismiss it because they say compromising things in earshot of other people and nothing has came of it until now.
@@everythinggirly916 Exactly. It came outta nowhere and it didn't deliver any impact on me as the viewer because there was no hinting or foreshadowing towards her knowing before this episode. If it wasn't the same season, I'd say it was retcon. It's so lame, that they got rid of a good character like Luka for knowing their identities but left a dead beat extra like Kagami. And about her connecting the dots about Monarch's identity, it didn't seem like it at all. All she seemed to realize was that Felix was a sentimonster and maybe Kagami as well and she wanted to help them. To properly make us believe she understands that Gabriel is Monarch, they should've made her shocked, in disbelief, angry considering all the things he's done to her, Adrien and all even thinking back at Cat Blanc. It'd be an emotional moment. But nah, they just decided to make it unclear whether she understood or not.
How did Marinette not find out that Gabe is monarch?? Smooth brain
Lol I know right
she did find out, she just didnt say it directly , was it not obvious enough to you? Talk about smooth brain lmao
Smooth brain gabe i told you smooth brain gabe
@@zackz7563?
@@zackz7563 what
One dumb thing that bothered me about this episode - we had the build up of Marinette making her own dress for the event.... and every single other character present is in their usual clothing. Marinette, in the dress, the smeared makeup, did make for a more dramatic moment but it just looked off, given no one else put in any effort to dress up.
They didn't have enough budget to make new designs and models 😭
Hey, remember how Felix was devastated bcs he created the Red Moon and had to snap it out of existence? Now he's creating a tripod that he creates solely for the purpose of Adrienette. Remember folks, murder is okay as long as it's for Adrienette
Also, why haven't that akuma multiplying like rabbit on steroid during mating season? It took less than an hour in the Origin, so what gives?
Maybe because of the jar that kept the akuma from multiplying?? I don't know what is the logic in miraculous anymore
I know, right? Felix just killed a sentimonster!
@Dixie reign Paligumba The Akuma might only multiply if the Butterfly Miraculous user activates that ability. Remeber, Gabriel did not have his Butterfly Miraculous to control the akuma. Through out the series, Gabriel never got the chance to activate the multiplying ability again because Ladybug(or another Ladybug Miraculous user) always purifies it.
@@kainightshade5033 yes, but in Pretension, Felix told Kagami that he doesn't like the term sentimonster bcs he sees them as living beings. So, even if sentimonster can be non living things, Felix personally view them as living being, so this is some severe hypocrisy from him
Ikr. This episode has so many continuation errors it makes it look they fired all of their writers and hired new amateur ones
Isn't anybody going to talk about the fact that Ladybug couldn't undo the effects of Nightormentor's nightmare gas with Miraculous Ladybug and that Adrien, Juleka, and Rose are probably inflicted with the nightmares *permanently* as a result?! Yeesh, that's horrible to think about!
I think she was able to undo the effects in the end because she used her miraculous ladybug to fix everything
Ladybug. You had one job. ONE. JOB.
@user-gy3te9rd6zShe didn't use her miraculous ladybug cure at all.
@user-gy3te9rd6z If she used it, they definitely would've shown it since Adrian's nightmares will probably be used as a plot device.
@@MR_3001Yes. Because after what happened in season 4. Adrien really needs to suffer more. I swear Thomas asstruc. You'd better be fired soon. I'm sick and tired of you tormenting Adrien!
With now a total of 4 people outside of time travel knowing Marinette’s identity, there’s no reason for Adrien to know at this point as well. The other 4 knowing her identity is just as dangerous as Adrien knowing given that Marinette and Alya let it slip on their own.
Couldn't agree more.
Well the Adrien problem is that everytime he found out the world ended
@@chriskagamine358 The only problem with Adrien finding out is Thomas wanting to milk the show as much as he can
@@Ysae791 well yes, but Plagg and Marinette don’t know they’re characters, lol
@@chriskagamine358 But we do know Thomas is a joke.
I'm so confused as to why Nathalie looks way worse than Gabriel, like, how!? I do get that she got affected by the peacock's broken powers earlier, but Gabriel got hit by the most powerful force of destruction and he's just okay. Also, how come that the red dyed part of her hair is now grey? Does that mean that she's a natural firetruckredhead and dyes her hair dark blue or that she took the initiative of dying her red hair grey to make sure people see she's actually sick? Make it make sense.
My thoughts exactly. Gabriel is totally fine compared to her.
Gabriel's body is just turning ashes,Nathalie's is literally getting ill.
My only guess is that her hair is already grey there? We don't know how old she is, but she could just being going grey and dyes her grey streak red?
@@starsiadraws You know that gray/white hair comes from stress too right?💀
Hello. I cannot speak about Nathaliie's health, she is dying because... Plot armor? Kind off (not a very good armor)... 🙂
About Gabriel's being "cataclysmed" (is this a word?), this makes very little sense! If the writers were true to it's meaning (power of Destruction!) Gabriel would have been dusted instantly! The argument "it affects people differently" can be countered with a well-placed "WHY?" WHY was Gabriel not vaporized instantly??? He is a living being! SOOOO??? He is slowly dying! WHY???? His life force / soul / chi / attitude / plot armor is fighting back! VS the power of DESTRUCTION??? It's like having a match (lit) fending off a tsunami, Gabriel should have been dusted instantly (period!)!!! But we wouldn't have a Season 5 so... Whatever! 😀
I do admit it’s so dumb that Kagami & Felix can know about Marinette’s secret but Luka gets written out. I just need to see it end in this season. If we can reset the world then it’ll be good to see it be completely different
Luka knew both lb and chats identity which is why he left, they only know ladybugs so far so it’s not rlly a problem (plus the season is abt to end so why would they get written out for knowing last minute..) luka just wasn’t interesting enough in the writers pov and they probably didn’t know what to do with him so 🤷
@@heaven5gate at this point it wouldn't surprise me if Felix also knows who Cat Noir is and is keeping it a secret
@@heaven5gate yeah I know Luka wasn’t interesting for the writers POV. Yes the season will end but he can still come back in S6 since something major in the finale will change the world the miraculous
@@heaven5gate If the writers think luka is uninteresting then that's their fault! They're the ones who wrote him this way!
13:10 I immediately thought of that too. Suddenly a jar is able to stop a akuma, so I guess everyone should have one and it will work better than ladybug keychain... ehh
But there is one thing that bothers me even more - Why only Marinette in the whole class was dressed up for a party??? like whaaaaat
And that's what you call bad writing my friend
They didn't want to spend the budget on giving anyone else cool outfits for the dance, I guess.
Akumas can't go through solid objects (this is shown several times in the show) and Zoey had no strong feelings for her to be akumatised while holding the jar.
@@pawu15aside from asking “where and when exactly did we see that” I also must ask, why can’t the Akuma just enter the jar anyway? Like Zoe can resist of course but the Akuma would still be there and could multiply. And I guess Gabe didn’t make use of that Akuma at all even though he could have an entire army of Akuma villains under his control. And like 5 of them could have Miraculous powers. Along with there being like no way for any of the heroes to figure out where he is. Honestly if any of that happened I guess it could be a pretty cool set up to the finale but that requires a few wrinkles in Gabe’s brain
@@dabest8777 In the episode "Startrain", Chloe traps the Akuma by sealing off the section of the train it's in. It also gets trapped in a suitcase at one point.
Genuinely sick of cat noir being so useless in the story, he is litterly just a hunk of meat for the female audience to drool over at this point,and despite his name being you know in the title he is just their to be a damsel in distress, nothing more nothing less. How frustrating
I’m sick of him being overshadowed too, but he definitely has been important to the story. There’s a lot of evidence I could say but he’s had the more eventful story this season.
Might as well write him off from the finale at this point. Ooooh, wait...
Girly theres more that that 💀 also i get yeah they need to add more but it don’t matter
Honestly, it's insulting to the whole audience. Nobody likes weak heroes regardless of gender. The only time Adrien got to be a hero was in Passion. That's why I love that episode.
@Father Platypus no- don't tell me-
Not just girls you know lmao.
Even tough I liked this episode a lot, there were a few things that did bother me about this episode
The first thing is a more general thing about this season, but it bothers me greatly that Marinette finding out about Gabe being Monarch and the backstory was handed to her by Felix. For the entirety of season 5, apart from the first 3 episodes, Ladybug and Cat Noir did nothing to recover the miraculous and find out about Gabe and Felix. All they did was beat the villains of the episode and do the romance thing. After losing the miraculous, I would've liked Marinette to put more focus on that herself instead of spending almost an entire season on her love life with Adrien/Cat Noir
The thing that bothers me about the backstory is the whole heir to the throne thing. It kinda ruins Gabes motivation to revive his wife. If I understood the story correctly, Emily gave up the throne to Amelie, right? So if Gabe revives Emily, he can convince Emily to undo that? If so, can Adrien and Kagami become King and Queen (or wichever title it was, I don't remember)? Is that why Gabe and Tomoe want Adrien and Kagami to be a couple so bad? If so, it kinda ruins Gabes 'Depressed and desperate to get his dead wife back' motivation and turns him into a boring power hungry villain
I feel like Gabe don't care about the throne but that's what he promised to Tomoe so he got to follow her drum
Honestly, the romance this season felt really out of place. They made such a big deal out of Marinette having so much responsibility that she dumped Luka in season 4. And now, when monarch is more powerful than ever, she starts dating Adrien. If I were Luka, I'd be mad.
What i think it's that people that made the romance had 0 idea of how romance works
For Mari being expelled: Gloop jumped another episode. AGAIN! Why is it so hard for them, to air the episodes in correct order?
Unrelated but France is not a federal country, but a unitary (basically the whole country is a state, not several). Also, in many places (at least in Europe) mayors can candidate without being affiliated with any political party. Even so, some parties can still show support for a candidate even if they're independent.
That's good to know
Yep but ofc that's impossible to imagine a random teacher being elected to the city hall of Paris. It's considered as being a step before being president so for sure french political party would blackmail her and send her threats 😂
I mean she's not even famous in Paris or seemed to have done anything for the city.
But yeah. Miraculous is stupid. Astruc doesn't take his job seriously. So she's gonna win and next season they'll live in a wonderful country with no more problems.
@@ysarmestr9198 It's not unheard of. Romania's current PRESIDENT used to be just a normal high-school/uni teacher in an average city of the country (then he became the mayor and then the president). Tho he went pretty much independent (or from a very MINOR party), he got the backing of one of the biggest parties.
Assuming the Andre was part or backed by a political party, after the very scandal of the video clearly said party would be trying to save their faces, so supporting Caline's candidacy would be quite a grace since she is seemingly way more wholesome and trustworthy. Also, she was akumatised due to corruption and it's fair the assume in this universe the media uses these akumatisations for content. If this lady was literally akumatised due to how much she HATES corruption, that's a good selling point for the voters.
@@pawu15 Wow. I think there's no chances it happens in France 😂
You can only be akumtized if you are feeling intense emotions. Akumas have also been trapped before once in Sabrina’s suitcase and Ladybug held one under a bowl when multi mouse
I have mixed feelings about the cat noir scene because while i do not like that he got help from the other kids technically speaking cat noir beat him by himself. He overpowered him then got distracted and was hit with the nightmare spell or whatever you want to call it then the kids destracted gabe for like a couple of seconds then he recovered and destroyed the object holding the akuma.
So yeah he mainly won on his own the kids only gave him the brief time and encouragement to recover.
Still I would have preferred he beat him unaided especially since it shows him be actually stronger than gabe.
I really hate their insistence that "oh the world will end if they find out each other's identities..." Like NO, that's not how it works at all! The world never ends because they learn each other's identities, the world ends because Hawk Moth figures out their identities! And that would be less likely to happen if they had each other's backs and were ACTUALLY COMPETENT at keeping their identities secret! Like that one episode where Gabriel finds out all because he overheard Adrien say "m'lady," like that's all it took???
5:41 It possible Cat just flew way slower so he could have time to think about how he was going to tell Marinette he's Cat Noir.
Adrien and Kagami are literally the most well known faces on the planet right now, they're the AI bots (Siri or Alexa) of the MLB universe... Everyone and their grandma is wearing their ring phone thing. Yes, they're like A list celebrities.
02:15 did you forget Adrian is basically this world newest Alexa hologram model??? And im pretty sure Lila was replaced by Kagame so lets call her Siri
Yeah they may not act, but they must be pretty well recognized based on how wide spread the use of those phone rings has been
Plus their parents made the rings as well! There's got to be eyes on them from all over the world!
Excellent perspective you might be onto something
God you just made me go down a spiral of trauma at the thought of these teens being the equivalent of Siri/Alexa/etc with what ppl did to Samsung Sam. Goddang.
@@Chaos_CattusWhy did you have to say that
@@krepszlorinc797 if I'm suffering from it, I'm taking everyone curious enough to read these replies down with me.
I'm surprised that Marinette doesn't take action at once when they told her who is Monarch and told them to help her end this. If they did the next episode would have been an epic end to Monarch in front of an audience while he's still akumatized. marinette goes to the Agreste mansion speaks to Natalie to know where the miraculous is, find and frees the kwamiis, and takes Emily's body. if they got some miraculous back she should give Kagami long and the three of them go off to end monarch once and for all. the Gorilla would take the sick Natalie and Emilie toward the eiffel tower. They beat and capture Gab, expose him, heal Natalie with the peacock and the ladybug miraculous together and finally gab goes to jail. I would love to see that but that's not going to happen.
Best ending so far! I'd add that Mari and Adrien know each other's identity, Adrien gets his mom back, everything gets revealed about his history and Master Fu gets back his memories. I miss Master Fu 😪
Waited! What?
How does Kagami know Marinette's secret about her secret Ladybug identity?
-Does this mean that the two episodes centered on her can go directly to the trash after this revelation?
In the perfection episode she thinks she is not worthy of Marinette's friendship (this girl needs help) but the revelation should have put everything in perspective for Kagami? Right?
-Why Félix didn't immediately reveal Gabriel's identity to Ladybug is Cat Noir in the Pretention episode. (put aside because it would have bent the plot)
Why am I still hoping for something in this series 😞😞
Felix is selfish like that. It's because he can't be with Kagami that he needs Ladybug to help him stop Monarch.
@@everythinggirly916 Yeah it's already more logical in that sense, even if this romance seems a bit rushed and badly brought up at this stage of the story they must have had 3 interactions together and he finally only seems to like it for what it would be a sentimonster too, if it were a human he would have continued to be a genocidal asshole? But hey, at this point I'm just asking for the series to end and the movie to reboot it all!
@@matthewpenguindrum6001 Mood
This show always finds a way to disappoint.
Felix: I despise anyone who would use senti-monsters like tools. They're people too!
Also Felix: I'm too dramatic for a straight forward conversation, better make a senti-monster whose sole purpose is to make backgrounds for me and my girlfriend's theatrical backstory performance.
so... did you just forget that felix wields the peacock? He can literally make a sentimonster to any design he wants. He just made one that can fly really fast. probably in the shape of a plane. We see later in this same episode he has no issue making sentimonsters to do things he needs done. Also Cat didn't need to go top speeds. he probably wanted to surprise marinette at the school dance, so timed his arrival for its' beginning.
Marinette just saw Felix told her that he gave all the miraculous to Monarch AND that he's Adrien's father; she doesn't understand a thing? Wow this girl is dumb! if she is the final hope against the villain, Paris is doomed! The city would be better in Luca's hands. He cares about his friends, his family and the city. If he had the miracle box, it would be hidden in a chest with a locker and a secret code. Lucas is smart, kind AND prudent. He would understand who Monarch is too 🙂I hope he will return, saved Marinette while Chat defeated the villain. That would be fun to see!
The story Felix and Kagami told in the storyboard was looking great, but yeah, in the final version it quite felt a bit off to me.
I really like the graphics of this chapter, it does look really good, but again, the story Felix and Kagami told, while the backgrounds look really well, it feels like the quality fell there and I think that was supposed to be the strong part of this episode.
Honestly if Felix and Kagami sat Marinette down and told her everything it’d be boring, so the play was clever.
plus i think (since its a sentimonster), it looks almost like marinette couldnt get her eyes off the play, like it being a sentimonster was made that she was “under control” but yeah it was interesting the way it was put like that
Love the blue colour on chat blanc referencing the fact that Adrien is a sentimonster
Gabriel keeps losing to punch of kids without a miraculous. If I was him I would've already given up, because it's so embarrassing!
If you didn’t like how Adrien/Chat Noir was treated in this episode, ho boy, you’re gonna HATE the finale.
Hell awaits us. Just show writers. Whichever one of you thought it was okay to sideline Adrien in the season 5 finale. Is going to have a bad time. Mark. My. Words.
I hate that Adrien, Felix and Kagami are sentimonsters. I really that stupid theory and I hate that they made it canon 😤
I don't have a problem with Felix being a sentimonster. I thought it would make the show more interesting but it just rendered Adrien helpless to stand up against his father.
@@everythinggirly916 The problem is that it removes all agency from Adrien’s character. He’s no longer his own person, he’s literally just an object.
@@everythinggirly916 exactly he’s gonna be more of a robot when the plot asks him to be now
Don't forget there is an whole episode missing about queen Chloé the mayor between this and the last episode.
Also 《adult are villain, childs are the hero》is somehow the basic for all of childish story 😂
Cat Noir, honestly should be combat superior to ladybug considering that Adrien is a fencer and is probably stronger and more agile, plus, he's more gutsy. But no, he has to get hit almost every time. I know he's emotional and rash in battle sometimes but they should cut down on this damsel in distress stuff. They could at least swap one of those times for him sacrificing himself again 😂. At least, it's kinda cool whenever he does that. But really, a buncha the story has been revolving round him but it's not like he's been playing any part in the story. So lame. Ladybug might be the main character but he's in the title too, his dad is the villain and he's a key character. Even sidekicks in shows get more done than him.
I’m not going to lie if the identity reveal doesn’t happen in the finale I’m dropping this show. Astruck really made a mess of himself this season
Heh.
4:48 that design on mari's dress i thought were just randompatterns
THOSE ARE SKULLS !!!! they arent but they do look like
Wait, they aren’t skulls? What are they?
💀
In the episode called "Representation", we get more footage of Juleka and Rose still being a "heavily implied" couple after five seasons with zero confirmation... only for Kagami and Felix to kiss each other on the lips twice in fifteen minutes when they literally met two episodes ago. Great job, writers, great job.
I think it's because of international releases to countries that don't support LGBTQ+ stuff
Well Rose did Kiss Juleka, (as well as implied they kissed again in Zombizoue) all be on the Cheek and they are French so, yeah they can excuse that to the markets that don't like that sorta stuff in their cartoons.
Besides I kinda like Juleka and Rose being low key it makes them the best couple even if the occasionally screw it up with some "friendship" line that makes it look like Juleka is pining for her friend. Heck she's even outright sarcastic about it in Reflektdoll.
Felix and Kagami did kinda "cut to the chase" maybe they should have implied they were dating the whole time more obviously since they met.
Weird that neither of them seem overly bothered to find out they are not human though.
I think it has something to do with anti-gay censors which is why the two queer ships are only implied.
Honestly, my only gripe with this shit is how for so long, Rose and Juleka and Marc and Nathaniel only got subtle background stuff (Marc and Nathaniel even more so, Nathaniel even MORE so, bro has been shafted since episode 6), but in season 5, we get an onscreen lip kiss with Gisele and Caline, and Felix and Kagami getting together fast, only for them to still have the subtle gestures and Marinette literally RUNNING INTO MARC AND NATHANIEL'S PRIVATE MOMENT (I'm not mad at her about it, but damn, they can't even hold hands in a private corner without Adrien + Marinette shit interrupting it)
4:26 That's what happen when daughter and step-daughter of Paris go to your school. You know. Normal school with normal students.
Luka: I can't be in a relationship with Marinette, I know she's ladybug and I'll put her in danger! I can't tell _anyone_ i have to LEAVE Paris.
Kagami, to his boyfriend who she met like two weeks ago: yo you wanna know something cool :) mari's ladybug
Felix: yoo that's so rad you wanna know who shadow moth is >:)
Why cant Felix Get rid of Gabriel himself. He did it very easily in Emotion
That's a very good question.
I think the main reason why Adrian is so popular is because he's British Royalty. Even if Emily removed herself from the picture.
Kagami finding out Ladybugs identity was very anti climactic. I would imagine it should have a lot more build-up!
Sentitherorist are having a field day with this episode lol
No longer a theory
What doesn't make sense to me is...why is Adrien's worst nightmare related to Chat Blanc? He should have no idea that this form of him even exists since it seems Marinette/Ladybug NEVER told him about that alternate timeline. Surely it would make more sense for his nightmare to be never being able to escape his fathers influence.
Good point. If Ladybug had told him, this would have made much more sense.
I'm pretty sure he still doesn't know about Chat Blanc. I think the idea was that: he's afraid that will lose control of his power and cataclysm innocent people after what he did to monarch earlier this season
I almost liked Felix and Kagami this episode, then they totally lost me with the weird play lol. I love them separately but as a couple, it just feels like they were put together so the writers could use their combined knowledge to infomod the plot into moving forward. It's lazy and kinda upsetting they completely wrecked two interesting characters to be their godmodding inserts 😅
I guess when you're giving info dump, might as well do it in ✨𝓼𝓽𝔂𝓵𝓮✨
The writing of this program is a mess.
5:24 My theory is Felix managed to find out HIS miraculous' power, either his unique ability similar to how ladybug can make magical charms, the peacock could have some kind of "emotional" powerups. Like "Think a happy thought, gain flight" all peter pan style. Or learned how to make his own powerup foods for Duusu. I mean he did after all have Natalie's Tablet still, and with his smarts.. Would have been short work, especially with kagami to help to interpret the ingredients.
True Felix is a fast learner after all
The Felixgami play explaining the backstory looked like it was a shoutout to the anime Revolutionary Girl Utena, which over the course of the series explains major plot points through shadow puppets interludes using fairy tale analogies. Very cool (if weird) to see Miraculous do this as well, I always love the hidden references to other shows within the show.
I had a feeling it was that.😮
Akumas cant go through matter. In startrain the Akuma got trapped In Sabrina's bag. And for the akumatization to happen it needs a powerful emotion. So the entrapment of the Akuma is fine. No idea why it didnt multiply tho
I guess the butterfly knows it would die of suffocation if it summoned like 10 thousands butterflies in such a cramped space, thus killing them all and not akumatising anyone.
Just watched this episode and the last one back to back and damn... SAMG really putting the work in Representation. Lighting was the best it has ever been.
Writing-wise, I'm glad that the plot has been moving this season and I generally like what they're showing, but I'm so cautious for the finale. They've fumbled so many times like with Luka's relevancy, or Gabriel's constantly changing motivation, or Lila's minimal screen time for the importance of her role, or just CHLOÉ in general. I'm so scared they will slip and fall at the finish line.
where did you watch the episode? i cant find it anywhere
SPOILERS BELOW:
If you thought this episode was bad for Cat Noir, hate to break it to you, but this was his finale with Gabriel, and for the first five seasons. He spends both episodes of the finale crying in a cage.
Spoiler warning please 😭😭😭
PS yeah it sucks more than I can say. I saw it too
Yeah bro. Give a spoiler warning
Where'd you see the finale?
@@CormDaCrow
At the start of the season there was a script leaked containing the whole story of the season
@@duusu2608 ahh ok
The writer writing that scene thinkign is be mind blow and art
Meanwhile same writers who keep say this is a kids show
This was the payoff for all this ....wow , and we still have few eps missing , legit , Miraculos is the only show i know that have this chaotic schedules, lituraly anything else is delay or a hiatues , but nope, there drop what ever ep
Hot take i feel like "lucky charm" and "miraculous ladybug" should be Marinette's only power , i feel like "de-evilize she be everyones thing
I have a question, why is marinate the only one dressed up? Everyone else is in their normal school clothes.
These writers know where the good drugs are thats for sure because there's no way they're writing these episodes sober.
Pretty sure this is the same drug they had when writing Simpleman as well
I don't see what's wrong with the episode or what makes it "druggy" at all..💀
fr like i want in on what they got
@@kainightshade5033 Those people are dumb,like let the people who enjoy it watch it without some no brains like these people to ruin their mood.
@@kainightshade5033
Because it's bad.
1:40 Look france has a freaking child as the the mayor, and superheroes and villains fighter every 20 minutes. EVERYONE is report on them all the time
I'm betting Felix used a traditional plane, set up by his mother, after he got Kagami. It's probably a very short trip compared to places like New York or Shanghai from the specials.
The funniest part of the episode was Gabriel being hit in the face with a tray. I laugh every time. The episode was great but i wish revolution came out earlier before this episode rather than on 17th of June. It is near the ending and like how can they do that. This episode was really good for me with passion, pretension and collusion but if revolution was there then it would have felt more better as it the episode between collusion and representation and well the last few episodes are like really connected and to intense. Also hands off to Kagami in keeping such a massive secret from Monarch in both perfection and protection, especially the latter as well she got manipulated into getting angry with Marinette for a brief time.
Me before Revolution: "Oh boy I’m looking forward to this episode I mean no way it’s going to be that emotional."
Me after Revolution: "Geebus…"
12:51 He was actually akumatized (in that nightmare) into Anticat which is a variation of Cat Blanc.
Why does Marinette not know Gabriel is monarch. Felix basically told her and If She doesnt know Why won’t Felix just tell her and everyone else
Spoiler alert for legit the next episode.
Her brain is a lil slow to process, but she eventually does come to the realisation and sends a message to the cat phone. However he doesn't end up receiving it as Mari somehow ends up with both miraculous.
I think the only good part of this episode that was good one the backstory of felix . Like its nice to finally get some backstory
Definitely glad you did this video. The backstory thing yeah I agree. Amazing they finally gave points. Tho it's stupid is wasn't done sooner or broken through episodes. Anyway, Kagami knows Marinette is Ladybrat okay better. They did Luka dirty so having Kagami know at least Bug (I wished it was Cattastic Kitty Cat Noir she knew instead) still it's something the writers actually did right.
GABRIEL AND TOMOE NEED TO ROT IN JAIL!!
Damn forever the captain of Adrigami. Her and Felix don't feel just feel rushed and forced as Adrien and Marinette garbage.
Anyway, all have a blessed Monday June 12, 2023 at 11:04AM today. 🌸🌸🌸🌸
@@kainightshade5033
The endgame has been known forever. I was never a fan of the two protagonists romantically together.
Misunderstood badly, the backstory Kagami and him told Marinette is the only thing interesting. Kagami and him romantically together makes no sense similar to Adrien and Marinette just the same.
Adrigami - OTP
Lukanette
Ninoé (Nino/Zoé)
Marc/Juleka
Nathaniel/Lila
Prince Ali/Rose
Kim/Alix
CANON MEANS VERY LITTLE TO ME!! 😏😜😏😜🌸🌸🌸
If you ask me, I think Zoe wasn't akumatized because she wasn't feeling any negative emotions.
One thing I need to say: Adrien is not a Sentimonster because Gabriel said “After months of study” in the play. This means that Emilie miraculously got pregnant and didn’t need the Peacock Miraculous at all.
Still don’t know why Adrien can’t resist those horrid orders.
I thought it was confirmed in an episode that Adrian, Felix, and Kagami were all sentimonsters
When Emilie gets pregnant there is a peacock background. Enough said. Why else would there be a peacock background?
Maybe "after months of study" ment that Gabe was studying the miraculous
We do know that Gabe was studying the miraculous because of his backstory with Nathalie and the Shanghai special.
'THIS IS CALLED PSYCHOLOGICAL HARASSMENT 😡😡'
Here are my theories:
- I feel like Natalie will end up revealing gabriel’s identity.. somehow.
- The heroes would get quite mad at felix since he didn’t say he knew gabriel was monarch.
Why does everyone assume that Adrien is Cat Blanc in his nightmare? Gabriel calls him 'Anti-Cat'. Plus, if he WAS Cat Blanc, wouldn't his hair be white and eyes blue? That's not the case in this episode.
Smarty Pants, really sorry if you already know that but this episode is episode 24 and 23 is skipped. It is called Revolution and will be released on june 17th. So Adrien got in the plane and left on-screen but we just didn't see it yet.
I felt like the episode was lowkey anticlimactic... so many big reveals but the way they were done were so weird and outta the blue, and then marinette's reaction them was just "oh cool" like i didn't hate the episode but half the time i was watching it was just "R U SERIOUS RN?? 😐"
My currently thought process around this show is “what the actual F### is happening rn?”
And at this point; im too scared to dig into the rabbit hole.
Akumatized Gabriel looks like a vocaloid
OMG they literally subjected their children to white room torture 🤦♀Trying to "deprive them of all senses and identity" indeed...
I love how Kagami and Felix told Marinette of the Past of the Agreste's amd the truth about Gabriel
WAIT did Ladybug ever tell Chat Noir about Chat Blanc???? HE HAS NO IDEA WHAT HAPPENED????? Oh shit he's going to be really mad when Ladybug finally confesses that she kept that from him.
No... she never told him about it and that was also the cause of Ladybug's estrangement from Cat Noir, it's just a recycling of appearances that came out of nowhere and Cat Noir could have kept the black dye that it would not have changed the situation except to create an inconsistency on information that had not been disclosed to the latter!
Felix does have a copy of the book, he stole it in the season 4 finale, so he would have a way to make powerups
I absolutely HATE how they treat Cat Noir in this season, he's just being sidelined, and (almost) get treated like NOTHING
You should've seen the Cat Noir haters and their Cat Noir bashing stories and fics on the fanfiction websites; believe me, they are salty.😮
@@ashleyyoung796Adrien aka Cat Noir haters fricken disgust me.😒
@@FeligamiAdrizoeSworaDennisFan Yeah, me too. They actually started to think that Mary Sue characters like Marinette/Ladybug could do no wrong and somehow tries to find everything wrong with Adrien/Cat Noir. I mean, that hate is something else with them not being able to understand that Marinette had done some wrong things and refuse to acknowledge that fact.🙁
They keep making a mockery of Cat Noir.
They re woke idiots
The show writers really need to learn to stop doing that. I thought they learned their lesson in season 4. BUT NO! Apparently not.
If the miraculous ladybug’s never got called, and Adrien is still effected by the nightmare, shouldn’t Rose and Juleka still suffer from it?
Yeah,but like they aren't as bad as Adrien's nightmare..
Yes. That is true. But like- why you saying "shouldn't"- cause Rose and Juleka weren't shown to be freed from theirs, they still were offscreen.
Am I the only one pissed off at Ladybug?! The one time she actually forgets to do her miraculous ladybug cure and it's really bad! Like 3 people have horrid nightmares because you didn't do your damn job Marinette!
@@FeligamiAdrizoeSworaDennisFan To be fair, it looks like she recieved the message only when she came back home. And she know there was a villain, given that the Sentimonster seemed to show her all that in her sleep
This was probably the best episode so far this season it was such a crazy fever dream. 😂
Hello! Great review with excellent points! For a change I think this is one of the best episodes in Season 5 (my opinion), yet the bar is underground so...
The good. It explains 50% of the series (yay?). 🙂
The bad. IT EXPLAINS 50% OF THE SERIES!!! Is this what Thomas had in mind since the beginning??? Having Felix (and Kagami) tell Marinette that "Gabriel is the bad guy"? It is beyond lazy, plus it points out that Heroes are ultimately incompetent (they even need the writers help! - literally!!!)! But I am tired of waiting so... Whatever...
The nonsense (because we cannot have a S5 episode without nonsense)... Why didn't Monarch try to akumatize Marinette? How come Alia survived being thrown meters away with not even a single scratch? Out of a ton of powers Monarch could have given himself, why nightmares (the ones that people could "attitude their way out!")??? So teenagers can effectively fight akumatized villains from now on??? Yes, I know... PLOT ARMOR ON ON ON!!!
*** New suggested name for the Show: "Felix and Kagami RULE!!! ... And some kids with powers, whatever..."
Waiting for Season End, have a great start of week!
Hawkmoth in UK, Mari in France. He can't sense her negative emotion from that far range (watch startrain ep). So... can't akumatize.
Alya survived bc it's a catroon (even though it's 3D, and not 2D gumball)
He don't choose the power Jesus (writers) choose for him
@@Harumi27282 Thank you for messaging back, here's my feedback.
1. Gabriel is known to prepare the ground to akumatize people by promoting negative emotions and he should know that taking away Adrien would cause Marinette grief (remember Chat Blanc?). So yes, I agree he cannot target Marinette from UK (what is the range for his powers anyway? who knows...), all he had to do was be around Paris (not a big deal, he can teleport) and wait for Marinette to crumble.
2. I disagree. ML is a cartoon that follows real-world physics with concessions (this is not Looney Toons... I hope!). There have been people with sprained ankles (a writer's favorite) and real concerns about falling from a skyscraper. Am I being picky? Maybe a little, but if non-powered teenagers can be thrown to brick walls with enough force to crack them and they don't get hurt (it was the helmet!) then I don't get why characters are concerned about being run by a car (happened many times!).
3. I disagree. Monarch may not choose the power, instead this is defined by the target's profession / hobbies / specialties and/or problem at the time (it is not random). In the past Gabriel akumatized himself with the power to retrieve items / objects / people (the Collector!), so I was kind of expecting a similar power for this occasion (he wanted to retrieve Adrien). So... Why nightmares? Was Adrien supposed to come with him if he gave him a nightmare? it's the opposite of retrieving! To make things worse, this is one of those "I have attitude so I won't succumb to you!" kind of power so again, why nightmares? .. We know the answer. 🙂
Have a great Monday!
@@azanyo thanks but today is Tuesday in my country
I've waited for this episode long enough
This episode gave me a “what the actual f*** is going on here” vibe
1:45 to be fair. If Paris had a hostile takeover by a child irl after the mayor resigned, I think that be international news. And by extension, it would be to weird to briefly speak about the next election after that was resolved.
AMAZING episode. 10/10
Probably my fav episode in terms of storytelling. Great character devolpement, fantastic animation and the ending was insane.
It's definitely a TOP 10 Miraculous episode...
Gabriel was only stringing Natalie along taking advantage of her love for him telling her what she needed to hear to keep her on his hook so she'd keep helping him, and now that she is physically unable to help him she is utterly useless in his evil wicked heart
Spoil Alert with my theory
Gabriel kept using the Sass to try to win but had to stop using it because he didn't reverse with the others and for some reason Natalie moved forward with him they both suffer the affects of time moving on
Everyone got hit by NightTormentor except (Tomaeo Lyla and Felix I'm actually wondering where they were to not be affected by the nightmare smoke?), Did Ladybug tell him about Cat Blonc? Because his nightmare is almost the same?
Pretty sure Thomas just looked up Miraculous Fan Theories and decided to hijack the sentimoster theory and pretend like it was his idea all along
Someone said in thr community post that mari fixed everything with the lucky charm, but she didnt, she wasnt in the battle to make one to begin with, therefore chat still has the nightmare of turning into chat blanc again, just to clarify :))
Honestly seeing videos about childhood crushes being broadcasted would be a nice break from all the death and destruction.
alternate miraculous (horrible) ending: the whole timeline of the show gets erased and we are forced to watch it all again but with very slight differences just because Thomas wants to remake the episodes that were bad