FULL INTERVIEW: Dr Jordan Peterson and Piers Morgan break down Israel-Hamas war
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- Опубликовано: 27 май 2024
- Clinical psychologist Dr Jordan Peterson has examined the ongoing brutal war between Israel and Hamas during an insightful and confronting wide-ranging interview with Sky News Australia host Piers Morgan.
Dr Peterson, a world-famous public intellectual, spoke of the “moral quandary” associated with war and discussed how the current conflict may end up being “played out”.
He also said the demonstrations being seen around the Western world are likely to get larger and more effective in direct proportion to Israel’s military success.
“Palestine is a reality that isn’t going to go away and Israel’s a reality that isn’t going to go away,” Dr Peterson argued.
Piers Morgan and Dr Peterson also discussed the anti-Semitic response being seen across parts of the world amid the ongoing conflict.
“The anti-Semitic response in the last three weeks has been actually quite terrifying to watch,” Mr Morgan said.
“I’ve got Jewish friends who are literally living in real fear now.”
Muslim countries are condemning Israel but will not allow any Palestinians into their country. That says it all
As saying goes....Talk is cheap..Their support to Palestine is just lip service
Exactly, the hipocrocy 🤮
there are like 7 million palestinians in arab countries. Palestinians dont want to leave because they will be unable to return. So stop this stupid and ignorant argument.
They just BLAH BLAH doing nothing to the PALESRATS 😂
An occupation settler asking to leave their own country what a joke 👏👏
Piers, the fact that Israel is still the supplier of electricity, water and internet to Gaza 18 years after handing over to Palestinians tells us more about the failure of Hamas to govern the strip well than it does about Israeli control. If Hamas hadn't squandered the billions in aid on digging tunnels and buying missiles, they could have built their own power stations and desalination plants and been self-sufficient by now.
Exactly! Well said!
When Israel left the gaza strip in 2005 they left them a few international buissness to start their economy.
They burned it to the ground.
So yea they dont want anything but destrucrion.
95% of water in the Gaza Strip doesnt come from Israel
My thoughts exactly. You are a better "thinker" than Peterson.
Fuck yes!
Please read this with patience. If it's not obvious from my handle I am a muslim living in a western country and I have strong democratic and liberal sentiments. I fully support free speech and secular societies. I abhor extremism or any situation where one side tries to force religious beliefs on another. The majority of muslims living in the west are like me, and actually have a ton of empathy for jewish people. I have always been appalled and confused in equal measure by the Israel-Palestine situation.
I found it very instructive to hear this interview with Jordan Peterson after listening to Piers' interviews with Bassem Youssef. BY often sounded emotional or dark but ultimately came from a position of humanity and fairness. JP on the other hand sounded very reasonable and pragmatic but ultimately he came across to me as very biased. I agree with JP that the Palestinians are convenient cannon fodder for some regional powers like Iran; that the Abraham accords were a surprisingly positive step with real potential; and that surrounding countries that also have Palestinian refugees need to absorb them properly. However he was totally silent on the roots of the current situation; what Israel should do with its own Palestinian refugees - he made no mention of the land grabs and violence against Palestinians in the West Bank. Laughable for him to claim western colonialism has nothing to do with this mess; or when he called out Palestinians for not rising up against their rulers - as if the Israeli government itself hasn't been happy with the status quo, and actively supported the oppressive Palestinian leadership structures, including Hamas itself! This is victim blaming developed into an art form.
I actually agree that we need to start with where we are today, and think about what is best for the current generation of Palestinians - who have no prospects whatsoever - as well as for Israelis; and I would go further and say we need to support liberal democracy, and I even agree that Israel is the closest thing to it in the region. But it is disingenuous to pretend that Israel's actions are OK because it is "good" and everyone else is "bad" - which was the hidden message in JP's eloquence. I ended up feeling intellectually bullied, something right wing academics seem very good at, and exactly the kind of thing BY said would simply perpetuate the problems.
Piers I applaud your recent interviews and the visibility and more thoughtful exchanges you are bringing to these issues, but I do think you need to call things out when your interviewee is just not playing a straight bat and hiding a toxic message behind being very articulate.
Yes.These are not sincere people.
Yes, if Iranian weaponry support of Hamas is to be abhored, so should US and other western powers' weaponry support of Israel be held responsible for enabling occupation and massacre, which inevitably causes terrorist response. Jordan is at least mildly hypocritical to say anger at Israel is anti-semitism. After the crusades, and many western wars against muslims, the west could equally be accused as following anti-muslim propaganda to enable by proxy wars against the Palestinians, possibly being responsible for using the murdered Israelis on the 7th as cannon fodder for their interests in the region.
Look
Israel being able to cut off power, water, Internet and phone communications isn't a problem with Israel it is a problem with Gaza. over 15 years of independence and billions of dollars of aid and not having the ability to provide water and power to an area the size of a small city shows how much Hamas cares about it's people.
Well said!
Thank you. I don't understand why people don't understand that simple fact. Decades of catering by multiple international org and NGO and annual remittances and also a free West Bank side. And nothing happen. In another hand, Israel turn a swarm into a super power surrounded by hostage neighbors.
Yes, but let's not let the facts get in the way of the Islamic and woke delusional West agenda
You think israel let's them , they controlled the borders, everything coming in and out.....stop being ignorant
Israel prevented
Piers , where are any of muslim countries offering sanctuary for palestinian civilian refugees? There won't touch the topic. Instead they are far to busy celebrating what Hamas did to Israel on October 7th and only accusing Israel of war crimes.
Good point
I’m sure they will give Hamas some more money though.
People are not talking about how badly Jordan, Syria and Lebanon treat their palestinians... but to answer your question Egypt can easily give them asylum, they just don't want Hamas terrorists in their country which will inevitably happen if you let everyone in.
In my experience they're too busy blaming only Israel.
@@jackstickler1705yup
😂 its like Piers wanted to hear this. He has already taken side even though he doesn't want to admit it.
Ah. So you hold it against Piers that he doesn't side with terrorists?
Shame.
terrorist got defined in the dictionary recently to fit a very specific world narrive. fits convenient for the agenda tho. its not real. they make events happen to in turn form thoughts for you in your little brain
Yes, he sides with eviI.
@@yoshikage3074 how is it evil to side with not wanting to bomb civillians? Because thats pretty much what JP said. Saying that is "evil" is just ignorant.
Does anyone know the book about turn-of-the-century Vienna that in Jordan Peterson mentions (@ 31 minutes into the interview)? I cannot understand the author’s name he mentions.
Stefan zweig : the world of yesterday
Time after time, Jordan Peterson never lets me down. Always reasonable, always open minded, magnanimous and caring for humanity and carefully choosing his words, ever so moderate and gentle, yet so firm. Thank god for people like him, even though I don’t believe in god or any religion.
If you watch enough of his videos maybe he'll convince you..
@@williamcantrell7258his arguments for god are very flawrd
Um... You have evidence that Iran knew October the 7th was coming before Israel did?
Watched all of his videos. But faith is a thing installed in one’s mind as a child, either you buy into it or you smell the bullshit, I fall on the second category, not saying that it’s a good thing, I wish I was a believer and perhaps brain dead, but I always have too many questions, and quite honestly, if there was an almighty god, why wouldn’t he send a lightning on the head of anyone inventing a new weapon, on anyone bringing pain and suffering, and all the answers like “god works in misteriosa ways”, all sound like bollocks to me. But hey! I may be totally wrong. At least I admit that I don’t know about God, and I am pretty sure that nobody knows about God.
@@trotterglobe9278 "if there was an almighty god, why wouldn’t he send a lightning on the head of anyone inventing a new weapon"
Well, you may be pretty sure that no-one knows about God but there are many people who think that they know quite a lot about God. For instance: 'Yahweh' is a God of War, some think. That should answer your query with regard to lightning on the heads of those inventing new weapons.
With God, some will always find justification for war. Without God, we would have to take responsibility for our actions.
With God, logic and reason is void; without God, logic and reason can carry the day. Right?
"if we have to have a choice between being dead and pitied, and being alive with a bad image, we'd rather be alive and have the bad image".
- Golda Meir
Unfortunately, a bad image can lead to having too many enemies and few supporters and lead to death. The Palestinians have terrible leaders but I am not impressed with Israelis either; droppinges a bomb on innocent civilians to kill a Hamas guy is as nutty as killing flies with artillery, the results are far worse than not bothering with the fly. Israel has only one option; pin point killings of Hamas and, before doing get the hostages free, or try to until it is obvious Hamas will not. The bad image Israel is developing could be deadly; already more Democrats support Palestinians than support Israelis. I suspect support or sympathy of US Jews is falling too. When a deep economic crisis breaks out in the US it is impossible how the masses will react towards the elites with with too many Jews are identified. US Jews put a lot of effort (smarts and money) to influence the politicians but those same politicians will abandon the Jews and Israel if they see the masses turning on them. Jews have been persecuted in all important countries of the West. In the US they have not been persecuted, although they were discriminated, showing the antisemitic weed is there. Sam Zell (a Jew) already says: "The US is the Weimar Republic", we all know what happened afterwards. Germany was also a highly developed, highly educated country but when the economy went to Hell, a rabid antisemite rose and it seems the majority of the German people were in fact hostile or indifferent towards the fate of the Jews. Jews in Germany were also very successful and had money put that did not protect them much. The hard fact is that an enraged mob can not be stopped, and even less a police state. The 6 million Jews murdered by the German Nazis, because most Germans looked the other way shows I am right. US Jews will not be safer if the US economy goes to Hell and, certainly it is not prudent of Jews to believe "it can not happen here"; the US is already the Weimar Republic.
The solution is two states after a series of referendums on both sides, take the key power away from politicians and the peoples will stop hating each other; the Palestinians will swallow the bitter pill of Israel's existance and look forward to leave in peace with the Israelis and the Israelis will have to swallow the bitter pill of forgetting "greater Israel" and also give up many settlements and territory to create a Palestinian state. I think both peoples (not politicians) are capable of sincerely accepting each other, just like Swiss Catholics and Protestant gave up hating and killing each other and created the best governed most democratic country in the World (forget the fake "democracy rankings" of The Economist and others)
In TheSwissPoliticalSystem.com I have videos about this.
By the way, I did not know Dr Peterson was daltonic and that he has a taylor that sells hims clothes made with fabrig remnants.
@@victordirectdemocrats Hamas' charter declares the annihilation of Israel as its main goal. The charter of independence of Israel declares its wish to live in peace with its neigbours. Israelis don't rape and burn women, they don't behead babies, they don't kidnapp 85 year old holocaust survivors and parade them in the street. Hamas is killing its own people by starting their deadly raid. Gaza may become a parking lot because of Hamas' genocidal lust. Their leaders dont mind, they reside in luxury hotels in Quatar.
As long as hamas is alive - the Palestinians are not living.
@@victordirectdemocrats"bad image" use term by losser people who can't stand in competition with jews. 😂😂😂. Idiot white hate jews because jealousy can't win with IQ of jews and because they are product of big mistake by churches and society to follow manipulate teaching of empirium Roma, and Midleeast hate them coz jews never want to be arab and summit to barbaric god and prophet from dessert. Black and colour people hate jews coz they are idiot like idiot white. But if you are kid of mixing parents is mean your parent is traitor to his country to have kid from barbaric people who ruin his beautifull country that was built base on Judeo Christian civilization. 😅😅😅
@@victordirectdemocrats
The Jews need to get out of Western countries and move to Israel. More are increasingly moving 🥰
Give the leftists someone else to attack, who's next?
Probably Christians, many who voted for Trump.
The battle is good -v- Evil.
perhaps the best thing about this interview was that Piers allowed his guest to speak without interruption. i really enjoyed this.
Because he respects Jordan.
Speaking of random commenters… You’re at least the 6th person I’ve seen this exact complement to Piers from on other videos.. At a certain point, maybe he’s just a good interviewer/debater, and allows plenty of guests to go on monologues when they’re saying intelligent things 🤔
I completely agree. I think this is a first for Piers. So refreshing
His eyes are opening now. Welcome to reality
true true
JP has a huge following in the middle east. Him doing this can hurt him directly but I am happy he was honest enough to speak his mind on the subject.
If he didn’t, it’s 100% not going to be Muslims
He is speaking like a politician rather than a psychologist. His very first sentences were about Iran although he was asked about psychological quandaries. He has no psychological quandary and is biased against Palestine because of his closeness to Zionism. All so clear!
Agree 100%
Finally a comment that makes sense!
To you certainly not ALL.
I admire Jordan more than any other media figure and I love that he’s always in a suit. The jacket he’s wearing today is my favorite.
In your opinion, does this jacket, being two different colors, tell us anything about his state of mind (e.g., paranoid schizophrenic) or merely represent his desire to shock us all?
Jordan is nothing more than a conservative Christian who has a very submissive behavior
@@bryanjackson8917he’s already addressed this. It’s to represent chaos and order in a quirky fashion sense. It’s entirely intentional. Lol.
@@bryanjackson8917 Great question! A while ago, he was asked in an interview why he's been wearing suits that are structurally symmetrical but asymmetrical colors; and I was thinking, "Yes I want to know that too!" -- because when I first started following him in 2016 or 2017, he wore single-color suits. These dichromatic suits are relatively new.
I was listening to that interview out of the corner of my ear during my (free) medical ride to my monthly doctor's appointment (I have a chronic health problem so I had to go there every month) and the guy who was sitting next to me was watching Peterson on his phone, the volume just loud enough for me to hear.
Then we hit the tunnel and the signal briefly cut off, and by the time we emerged back into the open, the interviewer had moved on. So I STILL never found out why he started doing this 🙇🏾♀️😫
Anyone else hear what he said? 🙏🏽 Why he started doing this?
It's tame. Many of his suits have him looking like Doctor Who, which I kind of like.
You'll never see Piers more quiet and attentive than when Jordan Peterson is speaking.
Bc he’s speaking facts
He only interrupts people he doesn't respect
He can only steam roll children.
Because piers kids literally told him to shut up when jordan was on the show 😂
Because they are culprits in twisting realities ... like a wicked witch
Gordan Paterson is thoughtful Psychiatic & an academic of Phycology. Great. But, if you noticed, he is not a scholar in Middle east studies or a dedicated student of history of the conflict. He is phycology professor.
I think of Piers hosting Gordan to comment on this (over-70-year-conflict) is like setting at coffee shop with one of your aliquant friends, who is smart & speaks well. You sit with him because you are just pleased to discuss with him any subject. It's nice to hear your friend giving his opinions, even if the subject wasn't his area expertise. But again, it is a nice chat.
In my opinion, the worst storyteller of (history) of conflict in Middle east is probably a (Candian) who is a (Psychiatric). I was happy to see Piers interviewing norman finkelstein. that man was the scholar of this subject.
There’s one thing that is worse than a man who knows nothing. A man who thinks he knows something. Finkelstein has said a lot of nonsense over the years. and it’s not a secret that PHD doesn’t make you inherently an expert on the subject.
No piers. No occupying force has the right to defend itself in international and humanitarian courts.
Shame that Piers was censored look at 22:26he clearly says ‘prison camp’ but it was cut out … now why is that???? This is the biggest issue. Why are we not allowed to have a fair debate when it comes to critiquing Israel .. just because someone says something against them does not mean they’re an antisemite .. this is childish.
Piers was censored by his own organization, in a program called "Piers Morgan UNCENSORED" as proudly displayed below in subtitles, for the same word spoken just seconds later by Peterson: Prison. Its far, far worse then childish.
The main question is why the money used to make missiles was not used to create facilities to the Palestinians?
The palestinians dont interest anybody outside israel. We the jew in israel take care of the palestinian children from Gaza in our hospitals.even we took a tumor out of the brain of the leader of Hamas Yihia Sinwar. All the people saying :free palesrine" just want to kill us the jews . Pure antisemitism.
Have you not noticed that Gaza keeps getting flattened, yet keeps being rebuilt? Schools, hospitals, residential, roads. The money clearly isnt just going to missiles. If that was your main question, think more.
The religion of war and death values war and death more than human life and prosperity
@@simonrb1942 Its randomly gets flattened ? or is it because your friends in hamas ?
@@simonrb1942no... gaza never got THAT flat in previous conflicts.
Gaza is getting money, what they do with it is not building
Dr Jordans response was spontaneous yes have to respect. his views let's live and let's live
No, his view is “you scratch my eye, you and your whole country should be annihilated” he is a disgrace.
"Does Israel get to do whatever it wants?"
What Israel wants to is have the freedom to work, to study, to party, to sleep. No, Israel does not get the freedom to do what it wants. Do you think Israeli want to get in uniform and go to Gaza and face war with Palestinian soldiers?
Israel obviously wants to comit a genocide. And wheter they want or not is really irrelevant. Fact is Israelis are atm genocidal mass murderers that dont deserve support
Yes...they do. They used this event to take down Palestine, to commit Genocide against the people, there is no War, Palestine has no defence, Israel has the most advanced military in the world and are backed by the US. Palestine never stood a chance.
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I've seen a report where Saudi Arabia have said they will continue with the peace process..bless them..they as with the U.S. , lsrael etc.etc are far from lilly white but..when the whole world needs them , their stepping up..thank you Saudi Arabia..
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Does the concentration camp worker have a right to defend himself against the prisoner? Killing innocents is a war crime for any side, but when you’re murdering innocent people. Literally murdering them every night for the actions of whom you call terrorists, there is something morally wrong with your beliefs
I agree. And it's still happening. It hasn't stopped. No need to turn off water. Why turn off water? You can destroy buildings without turning off water. That is to only make sure no one can survive. No one. Unnecessary.
The workers are Hamas. The prisoners are Palestinians, who are also brainwashed by Hamas.
I've never heard this amount of concern for the people in Ukraine.
This is how long people can concentrate on one thing. Something new happens and the old problem gets forgotten
You did, you just forgot due to new news.
Absolutely love Jordan Peterson!!!
The moral issue is that Israel needs to make sure this NEVER happens again. Any way possible!!!!!
“You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can not fool all of the people all of the time.”
― Abraham Lincoln
And your point is?
@@distinctlyleonthat Israel is fooling you
@@distinctlyleonthat we need to free Palestine from hamas
I think the point is that Abraham Lincoln had experience with trying to fool all of the people all of the time. 😂
-Abraham Lincoln
-Bob Marley
--- by Michael Scott
“… Palestinians have been held hostage, even more effectively by their own leadership…” . Exactly.
The only thing better than an answer to a question, is to ask a better question.
All the philosophy of this person "peterson" falls down after his announcement against gaza, the philosophy of human rights, freedom, truth, responsability...etc falls down. I can say people make mistakes but not jordan peterson especially in this sensitive case (WAR between gaza and israel). He is very knowledgeable, very conscious and he thinks a lot before taking a step. He always defend human rights but when it comes to people of gaza they are an exception for him. This attitude reveled his face about the people of gaza and the truth is: he is not against gaza specifically, he is againt islam. I'm really dispointed and feeling so sad about this world and how it became. The most conscious, honest and knowledgeable people are not able to identify what's right and what's wrong in such sensitive cases. This is very terrifying fact that we should admit. THIS IS THE REAL HELL
Piers, just for your own knowledge:
1. Israel only provides less than 10% of the water to Gaza
2. Israel provides electricity to Gaza as a humanitarian aid because Hamas is using the majority of the grid to supply power to their rockets, instead of giving it to the civilians.
3. Hamas makes millions by supplying extremely limited power to the civilian population and selling them generators instead,a very lucrative “side business ”
4. Hamas is holding 230 civilians hostage, babies included, remember that
This is so true , more people need to know this
I agree with most of that, but please explain "power to rockets" as I am confused 😕
He can't seem to understand these simple facts
And why the hell does Israel have to provide anything to them? They’ve had nearly 80 years to develop an infrastructure!
Love that you are educated so many are not.
Dr Peterson nailed it!
Lol ....he always does! Brilliant mature man who everyone should listen and learn from. He is humble enough to admit when he's made a mistake too.
He nailed his balls and left them at home at most.
@@taralilarose1He is a very childish stupif and naive man, a legally insane person
Thank you for your clear analysis of the issues Professor Petersen
People are not so honest as they talk about good ideas, this is JP's true heart!
With BILLIONS in aid going to the Hamas regime, they have every opportunity to provide for the Palestinians. They are not. The fact that the Palestinians are dependent on Israel is a charge against the Hamas Regime.
HAMAS was created and funded by Israel. See the Times of Israel on this .
You should not have to wrestle Piers. The answer is BLOODY obvious !!!!!
Dr you are a jewel of our time every time you talk I'm stunned of your wisdom
Is this satire?
@@user-bb5tv5fe6l Absolute rubbish. He's a thinker, try it sometime
@@user-bb5tv5fe6l Hi bot, what is your hourly as a WEF/NAFO Bot? Losing that narrative quick aren't you ?
"by your wisdom" would be the correct wording, lol
As a fan of Peterson....the phrase "Give em Hell" is not very smart. It's children getting the Hell, and babies, and young and old innocent civilians, not TERRORISTS, who are getting the Hell.
Jordan’s thinking “Yeah, I shouldn’t have tweeted ‘Give them hell Bibi!’ “. Jordan saying, “Well Twitter is a complicated place….”
"What responsibility does the Palestinians have for having a totalitarian terrorist government?" That is a very important question!
one even more nuanced than previously regarded as we find the machinations of the elites behind the scenes in even the most secure liberal democracies of the west.
Probably the same as the Ukrainian people for having a nazi government which Bush influenced heavily with the McCain jerk
Lol... Palestine people are Hamas , you are all dopes to see this any other way.
This is not about Territory...
The indigenous people of Israel are the "Jews", go study true history for goodness sake!
The same responsibility the Jews have for having a war mongering, oppressive, apartheid government?
They voted them in!
Brilliant. Forwarded to everyone I know.
Facts bro Facts Hamas will not let the people leave and many are devout followers of Hamas and are willing to sacrifice their own children for the cause.
HOW DIABOLICAL IS THAT.
????
The genocide isn’t all bad because it’s given you a chance to dunk on your political opponent…what the fuck Jordan? What in the actual fuck
Did he say that the attacks that Hamas is supposedly doing on the Palestinians is worse that what Israel is doing to them since 75 years?!? I’m shocked! Wow! I think I’m loosing some admiration I had for him.
Islam will become irrelevant when there is peace between Jews and Muslims. The imam will have no topic to preach on. So, it's better to play the victim to receive financial donations to fire the hate.🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦
👍 food for thought 👌
When you realize that they do not and never will think like us, you have your answer
Cognitive inborn bias. That's it.
Total sense debated by these two individuals..
It is a pity the world doesn't communicate by sense because this world would be a much better place because of it?
I'm not a Trump supporter but it was a very decent statement made by J.P regarding a man the establishment have had nothing but disregard for?
An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind.
Then let it be.
This is the best conversation I’ve heard on this subject. I have Israeli friends and for years they have spoken to me about their genuine care for Palestinian people and their wish that they could have peace. This situation is tragic.
its thier land bro
Sounds like Peterson is calling for controls on free speech, he has changed a little bit since signing up with Ben.
Both sides are wrong and there are horrible Zionist Jews.. who chant the want Muslims dead.. SO BOTH SIDES SUCK.. HAMAS ARE TERRORISTS but the worst part is the number of Palestinians who absolutely support Hamas and brainwashed their own kids to think like them.. it’s impossible to work out decent Palestinians and extreme Palestinians.. and visa versa when it comes to Jews..
No, it isn't, and it never was. There's no such thing as a palestinian. They are invention of Soviet propaganda
Its disgusting how both of you constantly ignore and belittle the endless atrocities of Israel towards the Palestinians. Are you just dumb, ignorant or brainwashed by disgusting Jewish propaganda?
How difficult is to say "yes, I regret it". We still are going to respect JP
Indeed. It's a shame your comment isn't more upvoted.
@@PLAIN_JANE_ASMR who's talking to you?
Jordan is supposed to be an intectual, but can't understand how comments supporting ethnic cleansing might get push back.
But he's just blaming twitter for his tweet? No matter what form he had to use, he had a brain to use on first. He didn't even research he just said it.
Imagine if gaza spent money on peace instead of terrorismFrom 2014 to 2020, U.N. agencies spent nearly $4.5 billion in Gaza, including $600 million in 2020 alone
So qhy are Palestinians still being killed in the west bank over 200 of them no hamas there buddy
To be fair, that's not a lot of aid. That works out to ~$279 per person per year - or alternatively, the cost of one modern utility (a coal-fired power plant, wastewater treatment facility etc.) The aid is still very valuable of course, but it's not sufficient to make very meaningful changes to living conditions.
THANK YOU!
Except maybe if Hamas just allowed the economy to develop thru peace rather than destroying any economic development thru constant military agression towards Israel, the aid would have been enough
@@jentai7536when someone pushes you out of your house, you'll also not be very pro peace
Finally a well educated person with all the right degrees who is not a blogger nor a non funny comedian that uses the poor Palestinians narrative to justify terrorism.
One of the best interviews on your channel piers.
Israelis are the ones justifying terrorism
Yeah !!!! Exactly. I’m impressed by this discussion
I’m so glad someone else sees the Yousef Bassem interview as a very biased, one-sided, pro-Palestinian propagandist narrative. Even with the question on if Hamas is a terrorist organisation, he gave a non-convincing yes by shrugging it off. Bassem tried to deceive his audience of a balanced and objective by trying to present the Jewish suffering over the years. His attempt to resonate with Jews presented him as objective to his audience. In reality, the who interview became a voice for the Palestinian cause and a demonizing of Israel
@@georgehowell966 I was so waiting for this dumb comment.
Here is an international law lawyer that is experts on international crimes she is from the UK.
She says that Israel is one of the most human countries in warfare more than any western countries.
Not that Israel not commiting any international crimes , Hamas is creating double genocide against humanity, for the Israelies and the Palestinians which they elected this terror organizations
ruclips.net/video/jS2bD9PFCPU/видео.htmlsi=Ts_DrUjALaiaSlyi
Suck that up !
@@georgehowell966 well said 👍 🧠
The aim is not the civilians, only Hamas. But as an Israeli who is perfectly aware over 80% of the population of Gaza voted Hamas, I cannot say I'd object if the "innocent" civilians living there suffer a little also, for what Hamas did. Either that, or you think you have no responsibility for what your elected officials do and if so, why do you even bother voting?
Elections are fixed.....and based on your logic, then 84 million American citizens are responsible for the deaths of 400,000 Ukrainians. Wake up dude..
If the goal is Hamas why are Palestinians killed everyday with impunity in the West Bank, when the West Bank does not have Hamas?
@@MasterChief37because they didn't want to leave from active combat zone despite multiple evacuation notice to go to designated safety areas. Means they continue to abet in hamas' actions. This is war, not a playground. Stop your blame on Israel for people who shirk their own responsibilities for their own lives.
You obviously didnt read the comment you replied to who is an Israeli living there. No need to question him/her in the first place.
Best first youtube comment of the day 👍👍👍
We will start with the fact that I agree with you.
One thing I don't know how to figure out is that there are about 1 million children in Gaza which means that out of 2.048 million people about 50% are children that didn't vote for Hamas (as they were not born yet).
So now we come to the point that they were brought up to hate Israel and they are all probably Hamas supporters, not because they want to but because they don't know anything else.
So it's either they are all Hamas or do we as a western civilization need to think of them as also victims of Hamas.
At this point, I think we should let the IDF do what it knows how to do best and hope that it will come down to the minimum of civilian life lost.
To tell you the truth, I don't understand why they didn't immediately run to the Rafah boarder on the 3 days after October 7th, were they just too busy celebrating?
The trouble Is that many of the Palestine people stand with their leadership
And what about the.millions of people that don’t???
@@recnnect Then they need to stand up against their leadership.
They are trapped in a small area, millions of them, starving, no water, no basic human rights, trapped by force, for mannnyyyy years. They do not have the same political choices and freedom we do. They're day to day is a struggle to survive. Can you not see the problem with what you said?
@@kerri9004 you make sound as if they don't have a choice. No, they have the choice to rise up against their ruler should they feel oppressed, because the conditions you're describing are exactly what our ancestors have to experience before revolution happens. But as we all saw there's no revolution, nothing happened
so, not so innocent after all. And all the videos confirm it.
What he means to say, is no, he doesn’t regret it.
Why restraining Hamas? You're very smart and you know the truth you are brave to say the truth, say it out and loudly be the voice of the VOICELESS. I had so much respect for you.
Piers, the people in Gaza had water and electricity because of the grace and mercy of Israel. Hamas, instead of spending the millions they receive on infrastructure and things the people of Gaza need, spent it on weapons and terrorism. They turned pipes meant to carry water into rockets. Do you expect Egypt to provide, for free, water and electricity to Gaza? No? It's ok that not one Arab/Muslim country in the Middle East will take refugees from Gaza, but not ok that Israel refuses to provide for people whose proclaimed goal is not just the elimination of Israel, but the eradication of every Jew on the planet? And you are next. These extremists hate Western thinking and culture and speak publicly about killing us all, too.
im sorry but u need to get your ingormation elsewhere...i live here in the middle east and there are about 3 mil palestinians in jordan ...naturalised and everything...many of my class fellows and work mates are palestinian-jordanians
not to mention many of them simply domt want to leave their homes of generations and generations and prefer standing their ground and fighting for their homeland(not that its easy to slip through a seige)
"Grace and mercy"! Don't make me laugh. Palestinians haven't seen much of that in the 75 years that they've been displaced from their own land. Where is the mercy in bombing hospitals because you suspect an enemy might be hiding in them? Get real.
@@SuicidalSummerSnowWoman I genuinely want to know the answers to these: 1. Is israel really involved in ethnic cleansing of Palestinians? 2. In case Israel wins and eliminates Hamaz and takes control over Gaza, will they not allow Palestinians and Israelites to live together? 3. Will Israel force it's religion over Palestines in case rhty win? 4. Is Israel not a proper democracy? Please help me understand the whole narrative of israel being involved in ethnic cleansing.
Absolutely spot on.
Imagine having your most basic needs of life dependant on your oppressors opinion about you.
Sadly, history continues to repeat itself.
Thank you both
Sad isn't it?
Of course it does. Always did alway will. Why would one expect anything different?
Because society is insane…
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@@iulians4411 Isn't that the problem though? With how this is being reported & that we've got groups rallying to support Hamas...
-->Hamas is the current terrorist organization, from a long History of known violent extremist groups that advocate for the destruction of Jews(wanting Muslim expansion into western civilizations).
Throughout history Israel has been targeted, but now ppl are cheering on the terrorists that claim Jews have no right to life.
If it’s all Irans fault, why on earth did the US, UK, and France send Iran funding? Jordan… there is more to this than you’re suggesting.
“Give ‘em hell honestly isn’t the response I would expect to get from the Jordan Peterson I’ve grown to love. The one who says his idea of hell would be being a camp leader in Auschwitz because of the atrocities you would commit. I honestly don’t see the difference between that and supporting a different genocide using terrorism as an excuse. The arms trades and world leaders are making so much money from this that it doesn’t matter to them how many people they murder.
Even Piers showed a psychologist the respect he deserve for being truthful and intelligent.
I don't agree with Jordan Peterson on everything, but I have the deepest respect for his insights. He is one of the few people you'll ever see respond with "I don't know enough about the subject to comment" when asked for an opinion - something that literally 99% of "experts" should be saying to the vast majority of questions they are unqualified to answer.
He's 100% right on this. The Arabs are the oppressors. The Jews are actually the small minority that had been on that land for thousands of years before Islam was ever invented.
He doesn't know but is using his usual verbosity to create the impression that he knows something. He is a ... "thinker". At least for some morons in the conservative media.
What scared me the most during Trump years was how many people agree 100% with the media when it comes to Trump.
Oh but he picks and chooses when he doesn't know enough to suit him
@@Redflowers9Everyone picks and chooses what they say and when. If you can point to a specific thing he's being disingenuous about then go ahead.
Proportionate response is a delusion.
Bro speaks facts. He summarizes his thoughts and situations succinctly. Check out previous interviews with Piers for more specific examples of what Peterson is speaking on.
The people of this world should love what we have in common with each other and what we share with each other rather than finding dividing differences.
Bravo Jordan!! So perfectly worded. You are a Global Treasure
He's our Canadian treasure but were so happy to see he's becoming a global treasure 🥰
@@user-bb5tv5fe6lyou clearly didn’t listen.
Man, JP is human. He reacted to something and maybe hurt feelings but he is still very thoughtful for the most part. What Hamas did was poke the sleeping bear. I pray for the Jews and innocent true Muslims caught in the middle
How about what Israel is been doing since 1948?
A Jew will support fellow Jew like other religions a racist will support a fellow racist and so on and so on why is this moron preaching Doomsday propaganda. He must start Preaching. If Israel has a duty to take care of anyone then they must give back the people their frigging LAND. PETERSON stop propagating hate try LOVE
@@moustaphakane1322thats the government, same way you dont confront americans citizen for the wars america started. Or do you?
You know Israel has killed more civilians in a month that russia and ukraine combined has in the entire ukraine war right?
@@rxzileu-6645 what is your point? Israel has been killing civilians since 1948 and this month they killed more civilians than has been killed in the entire ukraine war. Israel has No history only a criminal record. They where literally the terrorists in 1944 they decleared war on Britain and killed lots of Brits, civilians and soldier alike, their terrorism never really ended after they became a state Either.
I’ve respected Jordan Peterson for a long time. After his comments on twitter about war, I can’t help to be sickened by him. I find it difficult to listen to him now
Gotta love Peterson most truthful speaker out there
He’s an idiot and doesn’t know the accords or anything else His way is the WESTERN way and has no respect for the Arabs
I like to listen to him because I think he talks about 50% smart things and 50% rubbish, so I have to figure out myself what's what.
@@korbendallas5318ya like he started off with typical word games. Moral quandaries and no simple answers. But 'give em hell' seems like a simple answer devoid of moral quandaries doesn't it?
@@DavidTaylor-qy7tkBingo ! And the New York Times reported that a tight group of Hamas military leaders planned the attack and his assertion that Iran directed it is unsubstantiated.
Great discussion, which a lot of people should be listening to instead of resorting to barbaric and archaic behaviours.
People do listen, the others, clearly not people, dont.
Not even animals in the ju gle behave like they do.
@amazoniablue7572 I agree, but what do we do? Violence is not the answer or is it?
Or at the very least here in the West, they could listen instead of posting their inane, insane and ignorant remarks on this matter to their friends on Facebook. Honestly, between the referendum here in Australia and this conflict, the amount of folk who have shown themselves to be intellectual retards in recent weeks has been jawdropping. Scarily, even in my "friends" and "friends of friends" on FB. Any kind of discussion is impossible. I can only imagine what Twitter is like, staying away from that swamp tho.
If only the Gazans who perpetrated the massacre had listened to the civilized You Tube discussion between Piers Morgan and Jordan Peterson! Instead of fighting Hamas maybe Israel should find a way to broadcast their conversation on every Gazan phone.
The Israelis generously left the Palestinians an enormous and lucrative flower/ vegetable plantation and huge greenhouse to help them jumpstart their economy when they left Gaza. What did the Arabs do to it? Utterly smashed it to bits and destroyed it….. and then cried poor.
"Israelis generously" man i said it many times to my ppl as an Egyptian, there is no way of reclaiming our lands from Isreal but by military and force, how the hell trying winning the sympathy of the West, which has always been and remains our only enemy; Religiously and culturally.
Neither “man” can admit when their wrong. It says so much about what kind of men they’re are. No respect for either one!
I'm glad to hear this point of view. As the great conclusion, free palestine and peace among the people. Stop the death of humans
I appreciate him admitting that he would have changed his impulsive response. That is what being an educated person does.
Marketing damage control. He lost many followers
I agree. He has lost his responsibility over thousands of followers making them chant against suppressed civilians over 75 years.
@@sunflare8798I get your point
But do you genuinely feel he would/is bothered by losing followers
And please don’t think I’m asking that in a argumentive manner or to then patronise if you respond
I’m just curious as I always like to think I sit on the fence in all matters to view both sides
The same goes for judging people
I’ve always liked listening to JP obviously he’s highly intelligent and knowledgeable in a vast amount of subjects and aspects
I also agree with a lot what he discusses and share his views (not as intellectually minded though 🤦♂️) that he says most of time but I find when I don’t agree you begin to listen to him in a different perspective
Where it kinda comes across as ,if you disagree with me your a fuxking small minded idiot
So does he really care about followers
As seems he’s prefer to keep integrity and not cower
🤔An educated person with (Moral & Ethics) based on Biblical values. There are many Educated who do not know/understand what a moral compass or ethics is nor subscribe to either at the very least !!!
LOL
Bring to mind that if hamas's thousands of rockets they've fired had landed in Israel, the death rate for Israel would be also devastating, knowing full well hamas would never dropped leaflets to warn Israeli citizens of the direction!!
It’s called the iron dome, read about it.
Israel buys high end weaponry with the billions it receives from the US. Hamas builds rockets out of plumbing.
Lover Jordan Peterson. He speaks truth
Dear Pierce, your Muslim guests didn't have better arguments, They just screamed louder. They didn't convince, they frightened.
yes because they are the locals there... they come from an emotional standpoint... JP has never been there(to the war torn areas) so yeah hes more composed...whats your point?
war is frightening...they are frightened for their families and loved ones and it shows through in their conversation
Im sorry if the victims' pain came through the interviews and frightened you.
So you got frightened while watching RUclips on your comfortable bed? I really feel sorry for you. Palestinians currently experiencing bombs and losing lives shouldn't be frightened. You're the one who should be frightened.
@@MrYahya0101you forget or more likely don't know about the daily rockets fired from Gaza towards Israel (for years) luckily intercepted by the brilliant Iron Dome, or missing their target and hitting their own parking lot next to a hospital.. ?
Not all pro Palestinian are Muslims. Quit making this about religion. This is about human rights.
@@MrYahya0101it takes more than that to frighten me, baby
Piers when you blame Israel for the civilian deaths on Israel you are playing into the hands of Hamas. They need to be responsible for the lives of their citizens. Why can’t they build shelters? What about the thousands of tunnels? They aren’t allowing people with permission out of Gaza and they aren’t allowing civilians into safe zones that the Israeli military has dedicated. This is their strategy. The more victims on their end the more international pressure for Israel to stop. You need to call them out. Why can’t the Egyptians temporarily give them refuge?
Egypt has categorically said they will not allow Palestinians into their country.
Very ignorant take....ruclips.net/video/FkxJd88xkBU/видео.htmlsi=acSXT-zZjI1CK3Wj
Why not? Are we just going to accept that sort of paternalism? Do Sisi should face allegations of crimes against humanity. Start filing your complaints to the International Criminal Court against him and others - like Qatar.
That’s my point. Why don’t any Arab countries get any criticism for refusing to accept any refugees???
Your talking like your there and you know what's going on? But just regurgitating the medias dumb narrative. Stfu
Who is he referring to when he says people are jealous of Jews' success? Who's jealous? And what "14th century conflict between Muslim fundamentalism and Jews" what was that event? Jews and Muslims coexisted all along in history until Jews from Europe moved to Palestine after 1917 Balfour declaration and took away Palestinians' land. Does he even know what he's saying?
Many Palis voted for hamas
What a brilliant mind Dr Peterson has. He absolutely nailed this, again he is a shining beacon of hope in a very broken world. “The Jews are the canary in the coal mine” so accurate.
The light of the world is Jesus Christ. Big mistake to put anyone else up there I think.
Yes Jesus only way
virtual perceptual systems, ❤ JP
THIS is not about jews ...its about zionists , who grabbed the jews since early 1900s into this shit ...
I used to respect JP .. not any more.
He does regret the tweet clearly.
He called students / middle class Shallow thinkers ( simplely dump)
Does not have deep understanding on this case as he dodges the root cause.
He reuined His reputation as Psychologist by doing politics.
If his ideology is not aligned with yours then it is wrong huh? says a lot about your opinions
Just a question here: since "the innocent people of Gaza" were the ones who ELECTED Hamas, put them in & sustained them in power, and let them run the Gaza region, and to embed their military forces inextricably into the civilian infrastructure of Gaza....do they not bear any responsibility for Hamas being allowed to do all these things?
I know my country does things which are unarguably bad - do my countrymen (and I) bear responsibility for what our leaders do in our name? (whether I even voted for those in power or not)?
Questions to be considered....
Then let me answer you
The innocent people of Gaza were born in the biggest concentration camp in the world, their food intake is controlled by israeli government, their water supply if they have any is controlled by is israeli government, every couple of years they undergo a" lawn cutting " and if they survive it, they don't have the facilities to heal ( children are having limb cutting procedures without any pain killers nor anastesia ). Let's not talk about white phosphorus and the fact that they can't leave Gaza without permission from the israeli government .
So to answer you're question, there is no hamas, hamas is the resistance, it's everyone, every child they kill his parents, every parent that lost his child, every mother that carried her child remains in plastic bags is hamas, as long as the people live resistance lives.
It's their country! Have you people no shame!!! They have to leave their housing , live like sardines , in an open air prison with limited supplies, die on a daily basis, have 0 rights, be treated like animals if they're lucky to live and you want them to obey and no resist!!! What logic is this! This is shameful to say the least.
Please don't forget that every time Palestinians were offered a land deal they rejected it outright. They have never wanted to share the land, just act the victim while wishing the Israelis be completely anahylated!
The land they were offered was BS.... the Jews just keep building illegal settlements
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_war_crimes
People don't bring this up enough the way I see it every land offer dating back to 1948 even the ones HEAVILY in your favor you've denied out right, you've fought multiple wars and LOST so I'm not too sure how you have any claim after a defeat and lastly you've elected governments that are HEAVILY antagonist towards Israel which only bites you in the ass down the road. Soooo are Palestinians the innocent victims or bumbling fools who've set up the circumstances to their own demise
It’s their land
@@rabiashemsu6771😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Yes Hamas does not want peace, they want that little piece of the puzzle Israel!!!!... hamas won't stop... they'll continue to use the propaganda narrative, use their people as human shields, keep their people poor and stupid to aid their agenda...the world is to stupid to see it. . .hamas are terrorists
Peterson is at his best in this interview.
@@user-bb5tv5fe6l"white", sure, because it's white people (which white people, then?) are still colonizing places in the modern age.
really??? 😆
@@user-bb5tv5fe6l Makes too much sense for you to handle
Like all critical thinkers. Who actually know WHAT war is and means.
These other idiots were one minute PRO war, then complain about deaths of innocents. That's how clueless they are.
He's obviously given it very serious thought, which is what we should all do.
It might be difficult to be wise on Twitter, but it should NOT be difficult for someone like you to have a moral stance against injustice and with the oppressed and against the oppressor.
It's just so disappointing.
You know Jordan Peterson is the goat because he’s the only person on the planet that piers will shut up and listen to.
"When peace comes we will perhaps in time be able to forgive the Arabs for killing our sons, but it will be harder for us to forgive them for having forced us to kill their sons. Peace will come when the Arabs will love their children more than they hate us." Golda Meir
Your utter hatred of arabs is out of ignorance and brainwashing. Read history and do some independent research and you’ll find just how many atrocities white people have committed themselves.
Exactly. Hopefully one day the Nazis can forgive the Jews as well for making them kill them.
Meanwhile Hamas places its rocket launching installations in elementary schools so when Israel fires back at where the rockets are coming from the Palestinian children will be hit. Their parents don't love them
You are a psychopat quoting another psychopat!
True. Every word
We are really seeing who people really are at this point in time
تنسون ان فلسطين دوله محتله من قبل إسرائيل واستغرب من اعطاء الغرب الحق دعم المحتل غير الحقد على المسلمين
Oh really Jordan Peterson we are suppose to try to believe that a person of your intellect couldn't quite figure out how to use Twitter properly?
JP is one of the few sane, balanced, courageous voices left in the public square.
@@basilmagnanimous7011 antisemite much??
@@nickvasiliades4537what?? Why do you say that?? Did you see his tweet??
The persistence of terrorism and the ensuing cycles of retaliatory violence represent one of the most profound challenges to global peace and security. Time and again, we are confronted with the harrowing consequences of extremist ideologies that fuel hatred and division, leading to the loss of countless innocent lives.
At the heart of these conflicts lie narratives steeped in longstanding grievances, instilled from a tender age, where children are taught animosity, extinguishing the prospects of peace. Such ideologies reject the notion of peaceful coexistence and are predicated on the misguided belief that violence is the only path to change.
A multifaceted approach is imperative in combating these ideologies. While immediate security measures are crucial to protect lives, they must be complemented by strategies aimed at dismantling the socio-economic and political structures that underpin extremism. This includes investing in education that promotes tolerance, fostering economic opportunities that counteract the desperation exploited by terrorist recruiters, and ensuring inclusive political processes.
True resolution can emerge only from a genuine commitment to dialogue and reconciliation. To achieve lasting peace, we must bridge the divides of mistrust and hostility with understanding and collaboration. The international community must stand united in facilitating such outcomes, recognizing that peace is not merely the absence of violence but the presence of justice and the flourishing of human potential for all.
In the pursuit of global peace, 🙏.
In a world that often seems divided by deep-seated differences, it is a fundamental moral imperative for religious leaders and global institutions to stand as protectors of the innocent and defenders against aggression. This duty transcends borders, ethnicities, and creeds, uniting us in our shared humanity and in our collective responsibility to safeguard the vulnerable.
The recent conflicts and the alleged support of Hamas by nations such as Turkey and Jordan not only raise grave concerns about the violation of international laws but also bring into question our moral compass as an international community. When we witness the promotion of violence by those who should be its staunchest opponents, we are reminded of the core morality that should guide all leaders: to preserve life, to seek peace, and to uphold justice.
As a global citizen, I appeal to the United Nations and NATO to reflect on this moral responsibility. It is not enough to condemn; there must be action to prevent member states from becoming complicit in the perpetuation of violence. Our shared Abrahamic traditions teach us the virtue of being our brother’s and sister’s keeper, and our international frameworks are built on the promise of defending the defenseless.
The distinction between defending and attacking is not just strategic, but profoundly moral. To blur these lines not only undermines international stability but corrodes the very ethics upon which our civilizations are built. We look to our religious and world leaders not just for guidance, but for the embodiment of a principle that is as ancient as it is urgent: to protect and defend, never to initiate harm.
Really? Do you think he would be speaking like this if he wasn't worried about upsetting his little boss? Come on! He's a sell out now!
@@kateoconnor1307
Who is Peterson's "boss"?
Dr Peterson would be the top PM for Canada!
What’s up with Jordy’s RB jacket?
When times are tough, many men and women are able to express issues/reflections in a more humble way, with truth, with common sense (this time, for a change)...Humility amongst humanity is the answer to many problems in the world. Like Patriarch Abraham, he believed and followed with trust (His Only Son). May God have mercy on us. Amen
Agree 💯 with Dr Peterson
You agreed with everything he says? Are you capable of having your own opinions, or must you rely on others to do your thinking for you?
@@62Cristoforowow
Egypt historically owned Gaza and still shares a major border with the Strip
So why Egypt doesnt want it??
That is one thing that people ignore. Gaza belonged to Egypt and the West Bank to Jordan, at no time was it part of a nation or kingdom of Palestine. I don't see Egypt or Jordan demanding the return of their "occupied" land in fact when Israel offered to return Gaza to Egypt they were denied.
@@brantkimEgypt knew better.
All the peoples live there long ago they were Egyptian the time of Abraham
@@faysalgacan9893 when Abraham was alive that was known as Canaan land, Egypt extended from Damascus to the Nile, Tyre, Gaza,Tanis to Libya
But you are right Gaza was under Egyptian control
Why was prisoncamp basically blanked out? Thought this was uncensored
Mr peterson, you can sing peace all you like, but peace is it attainable without Israel stopping the occupation
When he wears the good and evil suit you know Dr. Peterson is about to drop some facts
Agreed but quite distracting as well.
Cute
Oh so it wasn't my eye sight😂 I kept looking whilst he was talking. Is this my phone or there fliming?😂 now I know 😊
So he’s adopted the court jester look. I wonder who sits on the throne. Should we finally see that he’s the anti cabal figure the cabal created to ensure they write both the positive narratives and the negative ones. By cabal I refer to the mythical beast entity that’s been in the shadows for centuries which is a consolidation of power at any time which seeks a unified goal giving the illusion of a greater power.
I think he should stick to more traditional and classic suits and patterns i agree it is quite distracting and odd!
Piers Morgan is doing some stellar journalism these days, congrats!