I think the Sinner is Naberius and the Crystal is his heart. Albedo's master found Heart of Naberius deep inside a domain then disappeared. The Defiled Statue is an imitation of the Crystal and we learnt that it was going to be used as the core for the mechanized god. From that I conclude it's the heart of Naberius
My money is on the second who came, likely related to the heart of naberius maybe it's even one of it's names. It seems to be mostly imprisoned but still able to influence or maybe possess other beings, I think it's machinations run deep, having "possessed" the thunder bird and orobashi to try and attack EI given the threat to IT she posed. I believe it influenced or outright possessed deshret and king irmin for it's own ends. I also think IT is responsible for both curses that happened at the cataclysm. And thats why it was able to affect the curse on chlothar making him more whole.
I want to point out something. The best ''lead'' we have is Dain saying he may know who it is, narrowing our search to kaenriah related people but we have to not forget that he didn't hear the voice, so that maybe someone he don't know personnally but heard about, like a deity and such, not necessarely related to kaenriah. Also his memory should not be trust that easly, he said it himself his memory are foggy as hell xD But I agree with you on the potential candidates since we don't have much to go with. I would also had potentially one of the Shade, we don't know if they're is a guy among them but we still have 3 of them unidentified Cool video 🍡
I try my best to compile popular candidate that i found in the community and it turns out those 2 names are so popular XD. I try to understand each of their arguments, and tbh the Dainsleif part, I totally agree with you, Just because he knows the mysterious voice doesnt mean its from khaenriah 😅 Also the second who came and the shades are like overused sometimes. Almost like everytime we find some odds cutscene or dialogues, most of us immediately assume it is shade or second who came or descender XD. It feels like the same treatment for Alien in our real life , hehehe
@@hellozenn that true, but since we don't know if these entity are dead or not we try to put the most likely candidates from what we know. Fortunately we know for sure that the Sinner is a 'he'' so that eliminate half of the possibilities xD
The mysterious voice being the Primordial one woul be interesting since I feel often Paimon is gernally theorized to be the Primordial one. Another one that is kind of random is what about the human who married the seelie? That was considered a sin right? And they were seperated forever, maybe the human was seperated from his love by being turned into some abyss entity
With the current information, the actual name or individual or even group of this so called "Second who came" is still unknown, we only know that in ancient past, They have challenged primordial one.
I think the Sinner is Naberius and the Crystal is his heart. Albedo's master found Heart of Naberius deep inside a domain then disappeared. The Defiled Statue is an imitation of the Crystal and we learnt that it was going to be used as the core for the mechanized god. From that I conclude it's the heart of Naberius
My money is on the second who came, likely related to the heart of naberius maybe it's even one of it's names. It seems to be mostly imprisoned but still able to influence or maybe possess other beings, I think it's machinations run deep, having "possessed" the thunder bird and orobashi to try and attack EI given the threat to IT she posed. I believe it influenced or outright possessed deshret and king irmin for it's own ends. I also think IT is responsible for both curses that happened at the cataclysm. And thats why it was able to affect the curse on chlothar making him more whole.
I want to point out something. The best ''lead'' we have is Dain saying he may know who it is, narrowing our search to kaenriah related people but we have to not forget that he didn't hear the voice, so that maybe someone he don't know personnally but heard about, like a deity and such, not necessarely related to kaenriah. Also his memory should not be trust that easly, he said it himself his memory are foggy as hell xD
But I agree with you on the potential candidates since we don't have much to go with. I would also had potentially one of the Shade, we don't know if they're is a guy among them but we still have 3 of them unidentified
Cool video 🍡
I try my best to compile popular candidate that i found in the community and it turns out those 2 names are so popular XD.
I try to understand each of their arguments, and tbh the Dainsleif part, I totally agree with you, Just because he knows the mysterious voice doesnt mean its from khaenriah 😅
Also the second who came and the shades are like overused sometimes. Almost like everytime we find some odds cutscene or dialogues, most of us immediately assume it is shade or second who came or descender XD. It feels like the same treatment for Alien in our real life , hehehe
@@hellozenn that true, but since we don't know if these entity are dead or not we try to put the most likely candidates from what we know. Fortunately we know for sure that the Sinner is a 'he'' so that eliminate half of the possibilities xD
@@hirods9889 Yeah, "He" is definitely the most obvious one XD
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man i dont why i felt as if i was robbed of my answer
may be it just my feeling
Another amazing discussion
Awww, Thank you for the support 🍡, glad to see you enjoy the video
Whatever lies beyond the boundries of existence is...
The Abyss
Whatever Reality is not...
The Abyss is what is
The voice at the end of 3.3 archon is n or nicole one of Alice's friend and is Said to be a guide
The mysterious voice being the Primordial one woul be interesting since I feel often Paimon is gernally theorized to be the Primordial one.
Another one that is kind of random is what about the human who married the seelie? That was considered a sin right? And they were seperated forever, maybe the human was seperated from his love by being turned into some abyss entity
I think this is king dehret is been prisoned by celectia or the gods
I thought he might be the primotial one
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I have a big question. Who is the second who came? 😅😢
With the current information, the actual name or individual or even group of this so called "Second who came" is still unknown, we only know that in ancient past, They have challenged primordial one.
@@hellozenn Ty 4 the info
@@esmeralda963 No problem, I hope you enjoy the whole video 👍