Most overrated albums, with The Beatles, Pearl Jam, Beyonce, LCD Soundsystem, Pink Floyd, and more!
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- Опубликовано: 10 сен 2024
- I respond to your overrated album inclusions, while adding my own. Stupid opinions, bad takes, and idiotic rambling galore! Thanks for watching!
Oh man !! Government approved bands.. love it !! you and Liz were dead on..especially green day.🤮great discussion..❤ I’m sick of ms Radio air play..
I agree totally about that Neutral Milk Hotel album - so much so I was going to suggest it as being very overrated. It never pulled me in and I’ve given it a few listens over the years too (as I’m constantly reminded how great it is by numerous articles and people). I hear very little redeeming qualities in it.
I think the Beatles and the Stones are way overrated. Dylan too! Controversial I know. The typical reaction you get from fans is “what have you achieved in your meaningless life?” But I just find those artists to be really boring - perhaps because their music is played to death and leaves nothing unpredictable anymore.
In terms of more modern artists I feel that Bjork is overrated. She employs and jumps on the back of other more talented musicians and steals their fire by incorporating them into her albums. I know other artists do that but I think she really milks other peoples talent and shuts all over what they do with her crazy screeching banshee voice. There was a period in the 90’s where her work was more valid, she was pixie pretty and had a unique voice but that appeal has wained and worn thin for me over the years and I find her annoying now.
Out of curiosity - what do you consider to be truly underrated albums? Astonishing records yet criminally unknown or overlooked albums? You mentioned Killing Joke recently and I feel it has to be argued that theyve remained relatively unknown fir over 40yrs. A number of KJ albums are amazing and influential (to people in the know).
Thanks for your comments! I see what you're saying about Bjork for sure. To her credit, I think she'd be the first to admit that what you say is true. I mean, without Nellee Hooper and Graham Massey and Plaid and Howie B and Mark Bell, where would she be? I love Bjork, but just saying. My next question I'm gonna pose to the community is what they think underrated albums are, so it's coming!
The legitimate knock against Sgt. Pepper‘s I’ve heard it that it is- above all things- a technical accomplishment rather than a songwriting breakthrough. That the songs themselves are veering into pastiche seems a little odd given its legendary status in rock music.
Yeah, I can see that argument. “When I’m 64” is a good example of what you’re talking about.
@@occasionalfeelgood23 I could not disagree more. I think When I'm 64 is an example of why McCartney is one of the greatest song writers of the 20th century. Tomorrow Never Knows, imo, is the perfect example of an overrated Beatles song. It's monotone and uninteresting, and leans on eastern spiritualist cliches.
@@googleisretarded7618 I’m not saying I dislike that track, I’m just agreeing that it could be argued that the track is pastiche. I personally love the entire album. I actually really like pastiche ideas.
Great video and agree with the comment below that it would be good to see more over-rated albums being discussed in the future.
Off the top of my head my pick would be Long Season by Fishmans - it's a nice enough album but I really, really don't get the excessive amount of love it receives.
Anyway, looking forward to the Carl Craig video - Landcruising is one of my favourite albums of the '90s.
Oh man, I wouldn't lump in a band like Alice In Chains with Pearl Jam, but hey, that's just me!
Ha, sorry man, my opinions are skewed at best.
Amigo, I respect you so much that I’m willing to give “Pet Sounds” another listen. I must clarify my issue with MJ other than the obvious, though struggle with separating the artist from his work. Admittedly, the struggle is real. I’m not that beesh who cancels (for the most part). I should have specified the album, buddy. If overrated was a spokesperson, I’d say MJ fits the mold post “Off The Wall”. Here’s where we agree: I LOVE “Off The Wall”. Also, you made an excellent point about the album cover from “Ten”, how they’re “slapping high-fives”. That album cover reminds me of a fake a$$ attempt at a team building photo that fails miserably.
And your choice for “Rumors” was perfect! I almost listed it, too! Blame the skateboarding cholo for their resurgence! That damn album just won’t go away!
😂 “skateboarding cholo”…that’s hilarious. Oh, I know, the brosef cover of “Ten” is vomit-inducing. Nothing more moody or cutting edge than a bunch of grungy hipster twats slapping ass and bonding in their crusty flannels. Gimme a fucking break. Lemme know how “Pet Sounds” grabs you when you listen to it again!
The only reason I chose it is because I wanted to ruffle some feathers and I enjoy other PF albums more. Some people think DSOTM is the best album ever but how many of their other albums have they listened to?
Yeah, that's true. People just eat what they're fed.
Meddle is the best
@@fatheroblivion4032 I agree 100%.
Pipers at the gates of dawn is the best (wish you were here is my personal favourite)
I'm gonna put my head on block here but I think most of Beatles is overrated. But this is more in relation to HOW they are rated. John Lennon was right when he said the Beatles could have released a collection of farts and the music press would have wet themselves (not exactly, but....).And Pet Sounds came out before Sgt. Pepper which is just 40 minutes to psychedelic and chaotic nonsense. there, I said it :P.
Interesting what you said about the grunge scene and AIC and Soundgarden in particular. To me, they were never part of the Nirvana/Pearl Jam "Seattle Sound". they were just bands that happened to come from Seattle. And also, they both were already well established when Nevermind came out and the music industry vultures descended on the city.... Personally, I think that Superunknown is one of the greatest rock albums ever, a modern (at the time) blend of Sabbath and Led Zep, it was and still is simply awesome. But with you growing up in the middle of it, I can see how all this went on your tits after a while. For me, growing up in Europe, Superunknown was a godsend and I still listen to it probably every month.
Pink Floyd? Groundbreaking, especially for its time. Beyonce? I couldn't name you a single song of her. I don't mind Taylor Swift actually, she seems pretty smart in what she does and how she does it (i.e. re-recording all her stuff). I was kinda expecting you to mention Billie Eilish at one point. I think her stuff is something incredibly unique. I also happen to think that she and her brother have listened to Skinny Puppy a little....
Keep up the good work. Loving all your Puppy, Ministry, Killing Joke stuff. I also wanna do a shameless plug for Kevin Key's Scaremeister sunday chats where he is interviewing other musicians from the 80s 90s era. Absolutely amazing stuff.
Cheers.
this was a really fun topic. just wanna add one more to the list: anything by elton john.
Haha, definitely. And Chicago.
Sorry - I meant underrated albums. Can’t win here.
Sisters of Mercy - YES! The only cool thing about them is their logo.
Blood on the Tracks - I am a Bob Dylan fan (saw him with Willie!) but I cannot stand BOTT. I think it’s because everyone told me growing up that this IS the record I need by him and I HAVE to love it. Annoyed me to no end. Plus I found the songs too long. John Wesley is my favorite - short, sweet and to the point.
Time Out! - I have nothing against Mr. Brubeck (he is quite accomplished) however this is like Carol King’s Tapestry in the jazz world for me. It was EVERYWHERE and I think there are other jazz artists that captivated me more.
The Fugees - their biggest hit was a cover track. Only Soft Cell gets a pass on this (they are amazing).
LCD Clownsystem - I hated them from the get go, but is there anything more pretentious than the track losing my Edge with the name dropping of his record collection? Plus, they admit the song rips off Killing Joke’s “Change” rhythm.
Neutral Milk Breath - LOL thank you for summing up that record perfectly!
Wilco - I was dragged to one of their shows, and everyone there was in cargo shorts and into crafting beer. It was horrible. Alt-rock for Cabela’s crowd.
I love Pankow - I even screen printed patches with their logo on it thinking I would change their popularity (I was so wrong) 🤣
Fantastic video sir!
Aha! Underrated, got it. Well shit, there’s my next question! It doesn’t surprise LCD Poopsystem has a track talking about their record collection. Wow, isn’t that so wonderful and ironic?? What a d bag that guy is.
@@occasionalfeelgood23Lmao y'all just hate LCD Soundsystem. Sound of silver is overrated besides 'All my friends'(goated track) but This is Happening is amazing
@@doglog3934 Amazing compared to what? A kick in the nuts?
@@occasionalfeelgood23 🤣💯
nirvana , Metallica and led zeppelin plagiarized all their riffs pls look this shocking fact up
Every band has and does even The Beatles
Nirvana and killing jokes plagiarized each other so it's more of a running gag. Led zeppelin took some stuff and made it even better than the original. From Metallica i don't recall any plagiarised song
Acdc zero plagiarism, the doors zero, cream zero, guns n roses zero, black sabbath zero!! Nirvaya and Metallica are good bands but both cover bands! Sorry to ruin those bands for you.. i was their biggest fan and know everything about them! Its like they are changing history! They killed our last champion Kurt!! I tries listening to nirvana but the power is gone after knowing this...
@@trillioncrowns wrong on every count do a quick RUclips search you can find all of these in a click of a button ,ray from the doors actually tells u all the songs he ripped off lol outta his own mouth , your so close one click away
Nirvana plagiarized all their riffs period... unoriginal garbage
LRS played Us and Them while I was browsing and it almost put me to sleep so I left without purchasing
Disagree. James Murphy a guy who is passionate about his music and wanted to make it. The sound is simply a culmination of all the music he’s into.
As for overrated albums. I think of stuff like Beyonce’s Lemonade.
Beyonce's entire discography is overrated
My friend bought me Neutral Milk Hotel, the airplane lp, thinking it was New Order because it was filed under New Order. She was shocked when I told her the truth
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Not a bad thing, ITAOS is better than anything New order has put out and I love New Order
@@doglog3934 Please. You're just being delusional now.
@@occasionalfeelgood23 wow there, there literally isn't a new order record that even comes close. Even their compilation album isn't as consistent
Got the rover and apocalypse to my wish list
Hope you like them, they’re pretty awesome.
Lift your skinnt fists, Laughing Stock, Spiderland, Any Pink floyd, Any Swans, Remain In light, Pet Sounds, Hounds of Love, Entroducing...., Unknown Pleasures, etc are all snoozefests
Oh man, you don't like Dj Shadow?? I love that album, haha. In fact, I disagree with all of your inclusions here, but hey, to each their own.
@@occasionalfeelgood23 Yup, Entroducing and Donuts are overrated asf. Since I left you is significantly better than both of those albums combined
You called Kendrick Lamar tired music? Why?
It's only my opinion, of course, but I find most all newer hip hop to be this way. It's very derivative, very narcissistic, and has absolutely zero originality. It really hasn't evolved in 30 years, and that's my personal issue. Lamar is just part of it. I was obsessed with hip hop and rap in the early days, but the danger has been taken out of it. It's to the point where you're hearing mumble rap on Burger King commercials now, for god's sake. Hip hop isn't about honesty anymore, it's about endorsement deals. Hip hop should be dangerous, but it's become the polar opposite. Uncomfortable honesty was the entire point of hip hop when it started. Kendrick Lamar represents a type of music that's accepted by all factions, and to me, that represents a tired old exhausted idea. People seem to think he's cutting edge or something, but he's no more cutting edge than Taylor Swift. I understand that all forms of music change and evolve (or devolve), but in terms of hip hop, it's mostly become watered down top 40 drivel.
@@occasionalfeelgood23 Interesting thay you say that, because Kendrick is the opposite of watered down music. I agree with you about the fact that what is on the radio is just mind numbing garbage. However, an album like To Pimp A Butterfly, deserves all the praise it gets. As a music fan, I urge you to listen again! The way it blends jazz, funk, soul, hip hop and r&b is genuinely impressive. Also the lyrical ability to explore issues of systemic oppression and how that affects the individual's self worth (also seen on Mr. Morale and the Big Steppers) never ceases to amaze me. He perfected the art of the hip hop concept album, the attention to detail is immaculate and the danger aspect of it, is there for me. Both in terms of the sound and the lyrics. In many ways he is a continuation of legends like Public Enemy, A Tribe Called Quest and Dr. Dre
@@demetrisgalides Okay, I will! I promise I'll make the time to do that, and thanks for your comment. It's hard for me to get into any newer hip hop, but that's my issue, not so much the music's fault, and I totally admit that. I actually like Lamar's personal story -- the dude clearly has risen from the ashes, and I have respect for him for that. He made a nice life for himself and I'd never criticize anyone for doing that.
24:04 taylor swift is the middle aged debbie gibson for this generation 😂
Nevermind, Ramones about all led zep, shit man I can go on. Thx for vid. Revco rules. I have to add, I dont like football, sports in general, and what made me like football even less is Swifr. I loathe idol worship and celebrities. Going to check out AI Swift photos. Thx again for great vid
It’s a RevCo world, that’s all that matters!
Led Zeppelin and a bunch of boomer rock is way over rated and over played
My vote Rush I like them but geez the praise they get is baffling to me.
Not as baffling as Pink Floyd getting the praise they have
Wow... had to turn this off with the horrible Fugees takes. The Score is a top 10 hip hop album of the 90's.
Excellent. Bye bye, then.
Agree on Sgt. Pepper, always preferred Revolver and by a large margin. Taylor Swift...I can see how over hyped that stuff is in the US but nobody gives a shit about her here overseas. At least outside of the UK. I tried to listen but all I heard is shallow, commercial mall pop crap.
Agreed, Swift is just too obvious. My approach to her is this: of course she sucks. I mean, why wouldn't she? There's always a new pop tart and she's it right now.
I think NIN is overrated. Pretty hate Machine has a few highlights, but The Downward spiral i don't like at all. Another one is KMFDM, 30 albums and a few good songs. I can not explain it, but both bands are not on the level of Skinny puppy and the early Ministry.
You might like my Meat Beat Manifesto videos, I talked about how I think Reznor is way overrated. People hated on me for that, haha.
@@occasionalfeelgood23 will sure do, just discovered your channel.
@@lakenote4631 Thanks, dude! Great to have you.
One of my favorite bands of all time and not necessarily a bad album as I enjoy quite a few of the songs on there, but electriclarryland by the butthole surfers is easily overrated and how it’s considered the best butthole surfers album is beyond me. Pepper is a little too Nirvana/Loser rip-offy for me and I believe that’s the reason the album got attention.
I agree again. They went a more pop direction with “Pepper”, they probably enjoyed the attention for a little bit. “Locust Abortion Technician” has always been my fave of theirs. I think “Larryland” is their most well-known, so of course, that’s everyone’s favorite. But meh, that’s not really a true representation of them.
Goth Meatloaf. 😂
You mentioned historical context when talking about The Beatles. Have you forgotten the horrible hair rock of the 80`s? Nirvana, Pearl Jam and Soundgarden killed that shit. Go ahead and hate PJ and Ten if you want, but I think it's pretty good, especially when you consider what else was on the radio at the time. Was/is it overplayed? absolutely!
Beach Boys IS overrated whiny music. Pop music in general is shit, rappers and Beyonce and whatever this weeks singing lady is shit.
I agree with MJ, people have forgotten how short his musical career really was. He's fame was really due to his strangeness/creepyness.
How could you not mention Rush, the music is cheesy and the vocals, what can I say, they are just horrible. I'm not even feeling the love that every one seems to have for the late Neil Peart.
I'd argue Pearl Jam was just another version of 80s hair rock, but I get what you're saying. I knew I'd take a hit for not liking Pearl Jam, but I can't help but feel they were a pre-packaged product for the music industry as they scrambled to sell more records to the bleary-eyed public. I only mentioned bands that others who watch my channel brought up, but yes, I agree with Rush. They were right there behind Fleetwood Mac for me. And your take on pop music is right on, I can't argue with you on that, haha. "Whatever this week's singing lady", haha. You nailed it. That's really what it is, just shove a remotely attractive woman on stage, have her twerk for a few hours, and boom, you're a star.
@@occasionalfeelgood23 I think it was a mad dash at the record companies to sign bands with the same type of sound (grunge..) once Nirvana hit. Most of these band are produced an recorded by the same people, so yes of course it was a case of jumping on a trend and finding a product to sell. But all in all I thing the talent scouts picked some pretty good bands, they all ready had a sound and I would argue as musicians they where lightyears ahead of the hair metal bands. Even though I hate what Matt Cameron is doing in PJ, i love his odd time work with Soundgarden. PJ also had a killer drummer in Dave Abbruzzese, just listening to him groove on that unplugged session is great fun 30 years after. Have PJ stood the test of time? By no means, I fell off years ago.
When I'm thinking of a "grunge sound" band that was a product more than anything, I'm thinking of Stone Temple Pilots. I like many of their songs, but it's very "made for radio"
@@kimbye1 That’s fair, thanks for mentioning that. I don’t have any fundamental issue with radio pop anyway, but when those types of bands are heralded as geniuses or something I have to laugh. And ugh, Stone Temple Pilots…awful. That’s the worst kind of music to me. And Offspring. Good lord, they suck.