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Jesus...you might be my soul mate. I listened to every choice on the list from start to finish and agreed with every one with the exception the "The Wall" (sorry bro...I love that album). Every other album if I hear a track come to play I'll change the channel.
i just gotta say none of you have written any good songs if you are calling these albums "overrated" you probably dont even play a single instrument lol
Yes, doesn't mean that all, to me it means the record is exaggerated or even sainted, too much credence I think, but not as good as made out to be in 'legend' that the album may be wrapped in!
I totally disagreed. Springsteen in general and Fleetwood Mack were average in the 70’s -80’s and the radio Kept them forever in your face! Just because they still get radio play doesn’t make them iconic. Rumors lost me when Bill Clinton used them as a campaign song.
I have to agree with him about the Wall. That is far too long. Some of these are just overplayed, not overrated. Some of the albums only have a couple good songs, and the rest are kind of garbage, so in that case I agree with them that they are overrated. Regardless, if we are talking about it after 50 years, that means someone rated it highly, doesn't mean we have to agree with that "someone".
You hit the nail on the head with the difference between overrated and over played. On American radio, the classic rock and 80s stations really cram Journey, Bon Jovi, Def Leppard, Queen, and AC/DC down our throats.
@@owenball7218 The radio play isn't for the fans, it's for getting new fans for the band and that's why they only play the hit songs. The fans already have all the albums, so they don't need to hear them on the radio.
And they only play the same few tired songs from those bands. Meanwhile, I think Queen's Sheer Heart Attack is a brilliant album that is almost completely unknown to most people, aside from "Killer Queen."
I think there's often a confusion between over-rated and over-talked about. Suggesting that Sgt. Pepper or DSOM are overrated is probably just a way of saying 'I'm sick of people telling me how massive, influential, important and amazing these albums are' - which is fine! There is a lot of music out there, but that doesn't mean these weren't epoch defining masterpieces.
@@vicariousjohnson9823 Not at all, arguing something is overrated would be to say DSOTM is 'not' a 10/10 album, it's an 8/10. Rather than saying people spend too much time talking about DSOTM. There is a difference.
With so many options with how to listen to music why would you listen to a radio station? Especially a oldies station where they're going to play the same five songs from each artist.
Its important to avoid overplay. Any great album can, overtime suffer from this no matter how great it is. I overplayed The Wall, took me 25 years of non play and now I love it again!
Agree. People often confuse overrated with overplayed. Some of these albums are exceptional albums. But because they're exceptional albums they got ran into the dirt by radio and movies/tv shows. Funny you mentioned The Wall. I was huge into that album 17 years ago. But I overplayed it and other 'core' Pink Floyd albums and I can't listen to the band anymore. But I figure if enough time passes, and I avoid it long enough eventually I can appreciate it again.
In addition I also think that you don't always get what the artist is trying to convey until you've reached a certain age, or at least experienced some more of life. Ones understanding of the meaning behind the lyrics may change as you get older. Some things you just don't hear the same way as a teenager.
@@Mirokuofnite Yes, I agree. At the moment one album which I seldom play because it is so great!! is IQ's 'Dark Matter'. IQ are not mainstream so unlikely to get these fantastic songs played on the radio.
@@huwadams9521 I'm always telling people about IQ especially Dark Matter!!! Neo-prog rock at it's finest, and very Floydian. Definitely _not_ overrated!!.
That happened to me with The Doors. I loved the Doors and played them practically every day from the time I was a little kid in the early 70’s. By the 90’s I liked them but didn’t want to hear them much. But the past 10 years I’ve rediscovered what I originally loved about them.
Anyone who says Fleetwood Mac's Rumours is overrated really needs to have their head examined. Quite frankly, it's one of the best Rock albums ever made - wonderful production, excellent lyrics and music, and performed flawlessly. The only reason I could see it being "overrated" is because its detractors are mistaking it with being "overplayed".
I don’t agree. It’s a fine album but far from remarkable. The other ”overrated” albums on this list share a level of innovation and uniqueness that ”Rumours” doesn’t come close to.
I'd say it's pretty difficult to remove the album from the time in which it was released. I wasn't there for "Pepper," but "Nevermind" came out when I was a sophomore in college and it was a phenomenon. And I imagine something similar happened when "Pepper" was released. I always thought "overrated/underrated" discussions really don't go anywhere and don't mean too much. When you're saying something is overrated, all you're really saying is that you don't hear it like other people who enjoy it hear it. It just means you have a different experience than others - big deal. I'm not a big "Born To Run" or "Morning Glory" fan, but I wouldn't argue in an attempt to invalidate someone else's experience.
I've just started listening to the beatles these past 2 years and really connected with them, loved basically all of their later works and 6 months ago would've gotten into a long argument about why they are the greatest band of all time, I've grown since then, I'm in college now and after having a few heated discussions understood, the exact same thing you're talking about.
I was 13 when Peppers came out and it really just seemed like another great Beatles album. It was a time when LSD, pot, and other drugs were really getting popular in my suburban school so that I think was part of it's popularity. I was older when Nevermind came out and I thought Cobain was one of those rare creative geniuses a la John Lennon. I only liked a handful of Nirvana songs and never related to the whole grunge concept.
As someone who was around in 1967 and witnessed the reaction to Sgt Pepper's I am astonished how anyone can suggest that it is somehow overrated. Nobody had heard anything remotely like it before and it was truly ground breaking. In my opinion it is the most iconic and significant album in pop music history.
As somebody who was born in the early '70s and so missed the Sgt. Pepper's release, I just don't enjoy listening to it all that much. A Day in the Life is brilliant, and I've always enjoyed When I'm 64, but the rest of it is pretty blah to me. I like the Beatles a lot, but if I'm going to play a Beatles album, it's never going to be Sgt. Pepper. "Groundbreaking" doesn't matter much to me because I'm not listening from a historical perspective. I want to enjoy the music right now, today, and Within You Without You is tedious. She's Leaving Home is painful. I know that Sgt. Pepper was really the first-ever "concept album." I don't know that this was a thing that the world needed...though now that I say that, I realize that my favorite Who album is Quadrophenia. So it can be done well. But it can also be a pretentious mess, and that's where I put Sgt. Pepper. Anyway, the Beatles are great. I really enjoy them. But Sgt. Pepper feels to me like it's stuck in 1967 and since I didn't live through 1967, it just doesn't resonate at all.
@camicawber I think the fact that it was so utterly different from anything we had heard before is what makes it a special album. I accept your criticism however. Taken in isolation some of the tracks were nothing special. I prefer Abbey Road to be honest!
I was around as well in 1967 as a 6-7 year old. My dad gave me the Sergeant Pepper's album as a gift, and it was my first rock record! So it has that personal significance, but it also was, and still is, a phenomenal album. So I concur with you and don't agree with the notion that it would in any way be overrated, but I would also add that my favorite Beatles album is Abbey Road. Either way, there will never be music like this again, and I still miss the boys.
There’s a difference between killing metal and “hair metal.” Nevermind did not kill Slayer and Megadeth it killed Winger and Warrant which really did have to go. This was the second generation of this genre and was quickly becoming outdated and embarrassing.
Absolutely true. Nirvana didn't "kill" anything. The genre of 80's hair bands killed themselves by being absent of any real substance other than hairspray. They (Nirvana) didn't have any effect on those bands you mentioned, including Iron Maiden. I despise Nirvana. Most overrated band in history by far, in my opinion. When I first saw 'Smells Like Teen Spirit' on MTV, I immediately saw a little unwashed dork on my tv screen, not a so-called phenomenal musician/poet. I didn't buy into the corporate grunge agenda that was annoyingly shoved into my face everywhere that I went at that time. I knew right away that my generation and I were being pandered to. But I did and do know decent music when I hear it and Nirvana wasn't 'it', despite the media trying so hard to persuade me otherwise. I always thought that Alice In Chains and Soundgarden were much more appealing and talented than whiny Curt.
I agree and disagree. I agree it wasn't Nirvana that killed certain bands (I absolutely hate the term "Hair Metal", all bands in those days rock and metal had long hair), it was the record labels due to the success of the Nirvanas at the time. The labels were only looking to promote or sign like minded bands. I disagree about the rock music coming out of the US in the mid 80's to early 90's, the likes of Winger, Dokken, Ratt, Crue etc. I loved it, it had it's own place in time, I didn't like the stuff coming out of Seattle, "not my scene Man". Wingers' 3rd album was probably their best, but it was released in '93, probably as a contract filler. It was never promoted and here in the UK never even knew about it. That was the Nirvana effect.
Yes, a band like Pantera became huge around the time Nirvana became famous. Far Beyond Driven was number 1 on the billboard right before Cobains death.
@@sitvisjesand Pantera used to wear spandex back in the 80s just to get gigs in clubs but they knew if they took the direction they ended up taking that their music would hold up more on their own Vs being successful as part of a scene like hair metal.
@MJEvermore853 Agreed completely, Alice in Chains and Soundgarden and Tool were the cream of the grunge crop. Curt never impressed me. Also Grohl was a mediocre drummer at best, and the foo fighters suck. I can imagine people in the far future saying,"Remember Nirvana?" And I don't even like them. I can't however imagine people in the near future ever saying,"Remember the Foo Fighters?"
Great description of Exile on Main Street! I used to think it was overrated when I was a lot younger; it took a couple of decades for me to "get" what's truly great about it.
Well I've only owned it for 6 months and can't see how it can be rated as their best album. There's not one track to match Sympathy, Can't you hear, gimme, Midnight Rambler, Street Fighting man. Mediocre at best, so much filler. Hyped up to the eyeballs. I guess I have 19.5 years to 'get' it but meantime it's rubbish. I'm not sure you could get one decent Stones album out of it.
@@manfred747 Well, it's dull, one-paced, gloomy and doesn't contain one song that would be up there in a list of the band's best.... but it does sort of work when played as a whole. Its dank atmosphere gets to you after a while.
I would say that most people are mistaking overrated for overplayed, or overheard. Objectively these are all massive albums for a reason; they spoke to millions of people. But familiarity breeds contempt. The Wall is clearly not the most overrated album of all time. That's hogwash. I'll admit I have often had my fill of that album and avoided listening to it for years several times. But when I come back to it, I remember why I love it so much. The Trial sucks, but I excuse that because the album needs some kind of denouement.
Excellent observation on why people may feel an album is overrated. I probably dislike The Wall more than you, but would never have listed it as "overrated."
A lot of people have told me over the years that they "don't get it" with EXILE ON MAIN STREET. I understand that because I bought EXILE in the 70's and it took me years to get into it. I have never stopped playing since it came out and I think it one of the greatest albums of the rock era.
Any stones album is overrated to me Their like an old version of ac dc three chord rock just. Change the lyrics that’s the stones they’re a corporation a money making machine, musically boring . Except the early stuff after Brian it went down hill ,they hired and fired so many musicians that’s why I say corporation. Get off my cloud is my favorite.
The thing I love about music is the time it takes me too. The Turtles, summertime, living in Willowdale Canada as a young boy. The Zombies, Beatles, Mungo Jerry and a whole host of other bands that reminds me of summertime sun and being young. If you don't get goosebumps by music you love, you're soulless. lol
Yeah, the music of the 60s was so diverse, and so good! These really creative artists came out of nowhere to make really good songs! Now it's all industry manufactured worthless bullshit. There still are these rare creative geniuses making really good songs but they don't make any money or sell many records.
The effect of Sgt. Pepper's on the world was earth shattering. No one had heard anything like it. It served as the very nexus of the musical revolution of the 1960s. It's easy to stand back some 57 years later and say "overrrated", but you would not have said that then.
@user-qb1sm3rk9r it's impossible to state how influential Bob Dylan was to the Beatles, the doors , and many other artist, Frank Zappa wanted to give up when hearing Bob dylan , Dylan was way head of them all, even when Dylan released Blood On The Tracks.John Lennon said when healing Tangled Up In Blue , dylan Is several years ahead of us all again
I agree - it's funny that as a child - 6-10 years old say - my Parents would play me this album before bed, sometimes. As a father now, I'd never think of getting out an album by U2 or Coldplay and playing it to my 9 year old !! The Beatles appealed to pretty much everyone...eventually.
I have worked in the music business and listened to thousands upon thousands of recordings. My classical collection (alone) was, at one time, comprised of over 5,000 recordings. I have had face to face conversations with notable musicians from a variety of genres. I still have friends in the business who work for major acts. With all that, I can't muster up the arrogance to assume such influential and loved recordings could be considered "overrated", even in fun. Mozart is considered one of the giants of music. Personally, his music has never really gelled with me. However, I would be a complete idiot to call him "overrated" when his influence is so significant. There is a bit of pretentiousness to all this, a contrived authority I have to assume to determine what is "overrated". Admittedly, it is fun to sit with friends and discuss. However, socially, as I get older, it's become more of an oddity to observe, especially, when you know the historical significance of many of these recordings and how they impacted fans and musicians.
Some people get off on being bitchy. Saying that something is overrated is basically the same as saying you don't understand why people like things that you don't, or admitting that you just don't get it!. I've got no intention to play any of these albums. Apart from maybe my annual play of DSOTM.
Nicholas.... its time to accept the new normal: we dont sit in pubs anymore and have a chat about music. we do it online. this is the 2023 equivalent of hanging out with mates and shooting the breeze. some are rude, disrespectful. some are full of s***. but most of us are just voicing an opinion. of course its pretentious! of course our authority is contrived! we mean you no harm 😉
Nicholas, I agree. I hate the words overrated and underrated. Pick almost any RUclips video featuring an album/song/film/artist (etc.), scroll down and you'll find someone using one of those two words, where... 'overrated' = "I don't like this much and neither should you" 'underrated' = "I like this a lot and so should you"
I think, in many cases, to rate an album or to make a comparison makes no sense as artistic quality is not a measurable magnitude. I never liked Radiohead but, as lots and lots of people, even great artist say they are great, I wouldn't say they are rubbish. But, on the other hand, when lots of people said that Oasis were as great as The Beatles, I'm sorry, but for me this is a joke. And I see it so clearly that I cannot think that is just my opinion. I sense thee's somethig objetive there.
It's tricky because your argument would suggest that anything with a huge fanbase (Swift, Sheeran etc) must somehow be great and any naysayers just don't understand it....doesn't really work does it?@@bmmaaate
I'm actually impresed at how you defended most of these albums in an honest take on each. For the first time in the years I've watched you, I finally agree with you 100%. I appreciated the respect you gave to Rumours, the honesty of The Wall, mentioning Making Movies over Brothers in Arms, the given respect for Bruce Springsteen's follow-up releases, among other moments. Quite possibly your finest moment as a RUclipsr ;)
To be fair, these "overrated" albums are chosen by his viewers, not by the speaker. So he has some good comments about many of the albums. Also, "overrated" doesn't mean "terrible". It could be that some people are rating an album A++ and others it should be a B.
I've always felt Love Over Gold was Dire Straits' best album, however it wasn't more commercially successful than their previous albums despite Industrial Disease being a minor radio hit. As far as Mark Knopfler 'being rich' and thus 'couldn't be bothered playing his guitar much' on Brothers In Arms (BIA), the band didn't become stratospherically $ucce$$ful until *after* BIA emerged with those big MTV hits, notably Money For Nothing, so I didn't understand the related comment. The big royalties weren't flowing in until after they had recorded BIA.
Love Over Gold is one of the best recorded and best sounding records I've ever heard. Even the copy I bought from a local discount store sounded great on the middle of the road system I bought with my high school dishwashing money!
@@MykeLewisMusic Much to my surprise, I own 5 Dire Straits albums. I have a very strong and romantic connection with "Love Over Gold" There are some beautifully sublime tracks on the album. I'm also a massive fan of DEAD KENNEDYS and MOZART. I'm also a massive fan of CELIBATE RIFLES & LIME SPIDERS from Sydney. Check out MC-5 & THE STOOGES & RADIO BIRDMAN. I like Bands like AMERICA & BREAD & SIMON and GARFUNKEL. I rate ALBERT HAMMOND as one of the best singer/songwriters to walk the Planet. He has written more Hit songs for other people than himself. Now, ALBERT HAMMOND is under rated. Some of my most beloved recordings are by Independent / DIY / Alternate Artists. I consider them to be very under rated and better than a lot of Mainstream releases.
I'm shocked that I agree with about everything you said. Music is so subjective that people rarely line up with each other. Exile on Main Street is amazing throughout, Soul Survivor, Sweet Black Angel, Ventilator Blues, Torn and Frayed, the radio hits and on and on. It's also significant for the time in my life when it was first released.
During that period it seemed every 4th Stones album was a mix tape of some new stuff, a few left overs that did not fit the prior albums and some half finished projects they just shoved out the door. Which also made these some of the more interesting and fun Stones album. I am somewhat biased because I saw the Exiles tour with Stevie Wonder opening for them, awesome.
In my mind Begger's Banquet through Exile on Main Street was the high-water mark for the Stones. Exile on Main Street was a golden nugget that released at a perfect time to be the sound track for my life at a heady time. Physical Graffiti was another fantastic album that released at the perfect time to be a part of my life during an exceptionally good period. Good friends, being in love, having a like-new late 60's American muscle car and the tremendous music of the time to preserve it for as long as I live.@@robertthurman9866
Excellent, and I myself would have picked The Wall as number one, although I consider Comfortably Numb to be one of their best songs as well as containing Gilmour's greatest guitar solo.
Exile on Main Street is a masterpiece in a league of its own. First time I listened to it, I was blown away, and it never gets old. The melodies, rhythms, lyrics, and themes, transport the listener to a ragged, soulful, rockin' nirvana.
I was 14 when my girlfriend gave me Exile on Main Street on 8 track. I remember thinking that the Stones must be getting kind of old (😂). Then I couldn’t stop listening to the music, and never did stop.
True enough and the same can be said of a few others; Mahavishnu Orchestra first time listening was life altering so was the IOU black album that was Allan Holdsworth's complete re-education for all electric guitar players! The same is true of Jimi; everything he released was an absolute revolution, and a forecast of much of the sound pallet of electric music going forward. If there's one musician who utterly upset the apple cart, it's Jimi!
@@billmacarthur5310 Even though it was way before my time, I agree that 1967 might have been the most amazing year. Although 1968 was right up there as well.
I agree, the first time I heard Sgt. Pepper in it’s entirety I was stunned. At the time, it was revolutionary, groundbreaking. I think the second side still stands up as a non-stop masterpiece.
Springsteen is overrated. About 14 of us all got hot dates, rented limos and went to see Springsteen at the L.A. Coliseum in 1986. The show was so lame that we got up and left mid-show and went to a bar instead. The show had zero energy and the sound was terrible! Springsteen talked about something (we couldn't understand a word he was saying because the sound was so crappy) for almost 6-7 minutes. People around us were yelling "play something"! Probably the worst concert I've ever been to! Springsteen is just lame, period!
I've only ever had three of these albums - Sgt Pepper, Pet Sounds, and Brothers In Arms, and there is absolutely nothing overrated about Sgt Pepper. What we may individually feel about it means nothing. It was groundbreaking and astonishing on so many levels. Like you said, almost everything we've enjoyed afterward can be traced back to that album.
Sorry - wrong. "Groundbreaking" cannot make up for the dreadful songs throughout the LP - "For the Benefit of Mr Kite", "Fixing a Hole", "Lovely Rita", "Good Morning, Good Morning", "Getting Better".... utter rubbish. A "masterpiece' needs a decent portion of portion of "killer", not filler. And Pepper is 80% toe-curling filler.
@LaughingStock_ There are literally tens of millions of people who do not share your sentiment, both subjectively and objectively. All of those songs are brilliant. You seem to mistake personal taste with objective quality. It doesn't matter if the songs do nothing for you. Personally, I cannot stand the song "Layla", but tens of millions of people love it, so it's clearly a great song. It's like nails on a chalkboard to me, but that doesn't matter to how good it is.
@LaughingStock_ I agree. Revolver is a far better group of songs. Now like the man said, if you ditched 2 filler tracks and put Penny Lane and. Strawberry Fields on it...that's different. Good Morning Good Morning is one of the worst Beatles songs.
I still listen to it. Best spoken word performance ever on "Nights in White Satin", and I understand it was done by their drummer. It's still an incredibly evocative and yes, MOODY, album. A gorgeous work of art. How they recorded it way back in the '70s I will never know.
I came here for the Born to Run piece which was brief and kind enough. I am a Wild and Innocent and The River kind of guy. But BTR gave us Thunder Road, Born to Run and the epic Jungleland. So it can never be overrated :))
If he was just a "product of the promotion machine" he wouldn't have had the lasting career and impact that he maintains to this day. At some point, the promotion aspect would wear thin and people would lose interest. Definitely not the case here.
I think my only serious gripe with "The Wall" is that they couldn't find 90 seconds for "What Shall We Do Now?" because it's a stormer. _90 flippin' seconds!_ It's in the live shows and the movie (with an awesome Scarfe animation) but missing from the studio album, presumably due to the run-time restrictions of vinyl.
Agreed! I even made a cassette called ‘Beyond the Wall’ which featured tracks from the movie that didn’t make it to the vinyl album (admittedly only ‘When The Tigers Broke Free’, ‘What Shall We Do Now’ and a longer version of ‘Outside The Wall’ - I think I also added ‘The Little Boy That Santa Claus Forgot’ from the movie soundtrack as well) - I still have it, with my attempt at emulating the album sleeve! Hoorah for Nicam video recorders!
I have an unofficial Wall movie soundtrack CD that has When the Tigers Broke Free and What Shall We Do Now. I love hearing the sounds of the film through the songs. An official soundtrack should have been released years ago. I've heard that When the Tigers Broke Free has been added to recent releases of Final Cut.
@@trip2themoon Yes, it's on the CD of The Final Cut that I bought and it fits in nicely. They've placed it in the middle of Side 1, between "One of the Few" and "The Hero's Return." And even though the film of the The Wall should have been on Blu-ray _years_ ago, when I dug out my old UK DVD recently I was pleasantly surprised to find it was one of those DVDs that had always had uncompressed PCM (i.e. Blu-ray quality) audio. So it sounds pretty amazing even though it's "only" a DVD.
Incidentally, a topic that would be somewhat interesting for a survey/thread could be: "Which double albums would have been much better off as single LP?" Or, maybe, the shorter other way round : Which double albums are great from start to finish? A rather short list, I guess... See my suggestions below
Funny how some people in 2024 think 1967 Sgt. Pepper's is overrated (or any of the other albums in the list). It's like saying that because I don't like or understand Shakespeare he must surely be overrated. Overrated is something that (cumulatively) has little or no intrinsic value and is appreciated by a very restricted universe of people who want to force it on everyone else, something like eating live flies fresh out of a dumpster.
@@MrMrh1958Me too. Average at best. I gave my vinyl copy away to someone who would enjoy it more than me. I tried for decades to like Exiles, but I never could.
I clicked on this video tentatively wondering if The Wall would be on here, and was both shocked and delighted to see that it not only is, but ranks all the way at #1. As a Floyd fan myself, my biggest problem with the Wall is that it plays more like a movie soundtrack with a bunch of partially realized songs that were intended to fit movie scenes, rather than as a standalone album. (I'm aware that the movie wasn't released until a few years after the album, but Roger had already conceptualized the movie as he was writing the album.) The Wall was a massive commercial success on the strength of the two most radio-friendly singles in the band's discography, Another Brick and Comfortably Numb, but it lacks the complexity and virtuosity of previous albums like Meddle, Wish You Were Here, and Animals. For me, it feels more like a watered-down "Floyd for the masses" album rather than one that was geared toward the band's core audience.
Agreed. Too much Waters without the input of the rest of the band. It is like a play and once you know the story line, it isn't as much fun to listen to. The best songs were the ones that Gilmour had the most influence and playing time on. Meddle, Dark Side, Animals, More, Obscured By Clouds and WYWH are more to my liking. More musical. That said, it is still a masterful album.
Probably a bunch of young punks who need to get over themselves that consider some of these to be "overrated". They probably don't understand what ROCK and ROLL meant to a lot of people. These days it's all about how loud, noisy, obnoxious, and distorted you can be. Overplayed, yeah maybe. Overrated?, nah.
Wow. Sgt Pepper OVERRATED?? This album is a pinnacle of experimental pop. Nothing before or since comes close. Rubber Soul thru The White Album is an unmatched stretch.
Absolutely! Sgt. Pepper stands up as a classic album, but I also agree with the presenter that it’s a shame that Penny Lane / Strawberry Fields weren’t included despite being recorded during the Pepper sessions. I’ve rectified the error by making my own playlist version of the album that includes those two great homages to Liverpool.
BLONDE ON BLONDE is the most important album when it came out in 66 everybody tried to top it no one did, I am born and bred in Liverpool brought up on The Beatles and Liverpool fc, there's no bias here Sgt peppers and The Beatles are overrated.Dylan's Songwriting for superior
Exactly. To really get a handle on any art, and why it was important, you have to try to place it in its position on the timeline. You don't absolutely _need_ to have been there, but it certainly helps. You can get there by developing an awareness of where a work sits in the timeline and what else was going on before and after it, but obviously that takes listening to a lot of stuff, keeping a handle on the dates, and making a conscious effort to blank out everything that came after a work and was derivative of it. But if you were there then you just have all that naturally because you lived it in real-time.
Born in the USA isn't overrated since I don't think anyone with any credibility at all has rated it as the best or one of the best albums in Springsteen's catalog or among other artists' albums in its' release year of 1984. Overplayed? Certainly. Sold like hotcakes? Oh yeah. But rated highly by fans and critics? Uh, uh.
@@mjhbuckeye Since I was a Springsteen fan BEFORE Born To Run (yes I'm old), You really don't know what you're talking about. I, and all of the friends I have that are huge Bruce fans (who are also old) consider Born In The USA one of his top 2 or 3 albums. It also was voted the best album in the critics poll of 1984. It was easily better than both 'Darkness On the Edge of Town' and 'The River' which both had some throwaway songs IMO. And his performances in the summer of 1984 were a revelation, and the best shows he ever did (having seen him at least 30 times.) I am getting sick of people trying to rewrite history, now that the 'adults' who were around at the time are no longer here to clap back.
@@wmg5852 You shouldn't jump to conclusions. I was 26 when Born In The USA was released and had been, at that point, a fan of Springsteen for over 10 years. My impression of the album, then and now, was that it was his Top 40 type of album, a desire to record a series of radio friendly hit singles rather than cohesive songs around a central theme or mood. It was also his surrender to 1980s synth-pop and MTV videos. I don't much consider 1984 to be a great year in rock music. Largely it was the year of Prince and Purple Rain which I remember being the top selling and more critically acclaimed album, not Born In The USA (my own personal favorite of '84 was the Pretenders Learning To Crawl). Easly better than Darkness and the River? Absolutely no way, no how. Darkness, in my mind, is the absolute best of the Boss' catalog. I saw him three times on the Darkness tour and listened live to the Cleveland Agora show simulcast on WMMS-FM and thought them the best live shows I had ever seen or heard. Most critics who have ranked or rated Springsteen's albums have either Darkness or Born To Run as number one with the other the runner-up and Born In The USA somewhere down the line. The River is a favorite of our host here and I agree with his assessment of that album. Me? I would have Wild, Innocent and the E-Street Shuffle, The River and Tunnel of Love after Darkness and Born To Run and in front of Born In The USA and I say so as a very mature adult who has seen the man multiple times and was a huge fan before the double debacle of Human Touch/Lucky Town. Not that Born In The USA is bad. It is listenable and entertaining, but a little thin, a lot derivative and trendy, and not on par with the classics I have mentioned. You are, of course, entitled to your opinion, but your missive about the depth of your Bruce fandom does not make yours any better than mine or anyone else's.
@@mjhbuckeye Look, your opinion is your own, not that of 'most fans' or 'most critics'. Do not make assumptions without backing it up. Once you make a statement like 'no one who has any credibility thinks it's one of his best' you, in fact, lose all credibility. The most influential music critic in the world (who is in wikipedia way too much) considers it Springsteen's greatest album. As I said, BITUSA won the worldwide end-of-the-year critics poll, and outsold Purple Rain.
I’ve played Rumours hundreds of times and can still enjoy it, the variety of vocal performances doesn’t ever seem repetitive. The standout is of course Songbird.
I've been made aware of an orchestral version that appeared on a Christine McVie "Best of" collection. It has the original vocals, but with extra backing. It is a nice variation.
The RUMOURS cassette never left my ‘76 Celica that summer ( 77 ? ). I never played any album as much as this one. PERFECT album. My fave was Gold Dust Woman.
There was too much material on double album, The Wall. If Pink Floyd had condensed it down to a single disk by eliminating the redundant fluff it would have been an all round better album.
Couldn’t agree more! Let it Bleed and Sticky Fingers I instantly loved! When I’d read about Exile as their “crowning achievement” I was so excited. I remember thinking “Rocks Off, Tumbling Dice & Happy” are the only songs worthy of their last two albums. I powered through and it absolutely grew on me! There’s still songs I don’t love but I’m grateful The Stones have a double album
I just never got that album, couldn't get past that first listen. What the hell is it? Gospel? Blues? Country? Jazz? It has some good moments but it just sounds like a mess that was recorded in someone's basement.
@@rodsmolter5046 that album is like a Scorsese movie. I don’t think we’re meant to like it all. Just walk away saying “ it wasn’t all beautiful or comfortable but…It makes me think! 100% art
This is his list of overrated albums? "Exile", "Pet Sounds" and "Born to Run" are three of my favourite albums. I think that this guy simply doesn't hear what I'm hearing in all three of the albums. "Exile" is the Stone's masterpiece. "Let it Bleed" and "Sticky Fingers" are more typically Rolling Stones albums. But when they did "Exile", it just encompassed the entire spectrum of American music. It was Stones plus soul plus gospel plus country, and there was so much going on in that music that for long periods of time it seemed that the Stones were the guest stars and it was an album that was made by the gospel choir and Nicky Hopkins. There are other things that are great about "Exile", just pointing out one of the things. "Exile" is also one of the rare Rolling Stones albums where Mick Jagger does not do something cringey by pretending that he's somebody that he's not. He's not being a poseur, ever. Making this album was so stressful that he had no time for acting. And that's the reason Mick doesn't even realise that this was his masterpiece.
@@rodsmolter5046 No jazz, but parts of blues, gospel, soul, and country infused into balls out rock and roll. This album isn't a mess. It's totally coherent and fits together nicely. The Stones are so loose, but also so tight at the same time. It wasn't all recorded in a basement either - they went to a studio in LA to finish it up and record a heap of tracks. This is a band that had the best song writers, the best musicians, the best producers, the best horns and piano etc etc. They had the best of everything. Elite musicians making elite music. This is as good as it gets.
You don’t like Springsteen. Others love his work. What’s to get? Imagine if everyone agreed on all things art. It would be a truly boring world. For me, the albums from Born To Run through Nebraska stand with just about any run of great albums from any great band. But…that’s just me 😉
He's one of the best lyricists in the business, one of the relative few popular songwriters who can legitimately be called a poet (Leonard Cohen and Bob Dylan are some other examples).
I think anybody who describes Pet Sounds as another surfer album probably thinks of The Beach boys as just a trope and has really never listened to it critically.
If you haven't done an under-rated list, I would like to vote for Black Stone Cherry's The Human Condition for possibly the most under-rated album of all time. It didn't even chart in the States, where the band originates from, but charted over in the UK and other countries worldwide. It came out in October of 2020 and I had bought its box set last week on a trip to see family. On the day of going back home, it was the first album I listened to. I had to repeat the whole album after listening to it once. I also had Highway to Hell, Boston, an ELO compilation, and a Jimmy Buffet compilation to listen to. After I did all of that and was still not home, I put that album on repeat the rest of the way home. I then found a full album video on RUclips and fell asleep to it on repeat. I've never done this to any album that I have and I have 79 CD albums in my collection, mostly compilations, but this has been an album I can't avoid listening to.
I think AlterBridge has had basically the same experience with US audiences vs UK? And for me I’d rather listen to any of their first five albums in their entirety than any of the popular records you mentioned and most any others you could think up also! And I’m a late 50’s rock and metal fan. I’m tired of the same old sam old still getting recognition because they hit during a time when rock radio and college rock FM radio was big. Different times now doesn’t mean there hasn’t been great quality in heavy melodic guitar based music in the last 20 years! And yes - music is subjective, but objectively speaking, people just love nostalgia! :)
Overrated? The masses have spoken. They are great albums. If you're young and don't get it, then you don't like history either. These are the origins of an artistic sound. They were new and exciting. Now that they have been over played and copied to death, yes, you are just bored with it. You can't understand what it was like the first time to hear this kind of music. Spend a year or 2 and listen to the music before these arrived. You'll welcome it with a big, refreshed smile. However, Oasis, yes.
@@tomball7009 That's the point I'm tying to make. "The masses have spoken". Just because something is popular doesn't mean it's of a high quality. The masses have spoken and propelled Bieber etc to household names. And also if an album becomes very popular, people will buy just to see what the fuss is supposed to be about. Which means even more popularity in the public conscience, and even more curiosity about it, which means more sales......etc, etc.
Pet Sounds sounded so much like the same surf music that Capitol immediately rushed out a greatest hits right after it for a real one-two punch. Lmao what was that person on about?
I agree that Sgt Pepper's is overrated but only within the Beatles' canon. I would rather have 3 or 4 of their albums before this. I've never understood all the fuss about Pet Sounds and was majorly disappointed on first listen (and subsequently). I was expecting something mind blowing and found it all very samey. I would rather listen to "Surf's Up" or "Holland". Talking of samey, "What's Going On" by Marvin Gaye is in that category for me. All the tracks literally sound the same.
I was never big on Sgt. Pepper's until I imported it into itunes and added Penny Lane and Strawberry Fields (inserting them where I thought they made sense). Those songs instantly lifted the whole album to another level. An incredible and unexpected listening experience.
Sgt Pepper and Pet Sounds influenced everyone in the music business. Before then most albums were comprised of the hit and a bunch of filler, usually covers of other people's hits. If it weren't for these albums, the very concept of "an album" as a cohesive artistic statement would not exist. Dark Side of the Moon stayed on the charts for over a decade and remains a touchstone of Rock history. Exile on Main Street , Rumors, Born to Run, Brothers in Arms, The Wall and for th a t matter , both SPLHCB and DSOTM are arguably not the best albums those groups released, but that doesn't necessarily mean they are overated. Hotel California, like all Eagles albums of original material, contains a few good songs surrounded by a lot of tedious filler. It is no coincidence that their biggest selling album by far is the greatest hits package. The CD of Brothers in Arms has longer versions of the songs than the vinyl edition and was the first album to sell more than one million copies in the CD format. I personally have never listened to any Radiohead album all the way through, so have no opinion on that one. Because of my work with, and friendship with, the members of Nirvana , I won't comment on that one at all. And once again I'll point out that Meatloaf Bat Out of Hell remains one of the best selling albums of all time despite being an atrocious pile of shit. Overall I found this exercise in revisionism ignorant and naive , and deduce that a lot of the voters have terrible taste in music. I honestly thought i would see the likes of Meatloaf, Motley Crue, Bon Jovi, Styx, Kanye, Beyonce, and Duran Duran make the list with their inexplicably popular dreck.
@@kevinstaggs5048 The album is not called Mr. Roboto. It is called Kilroy Was Here. It's generally acknowledged that it sucks. I was referring to Paradise Theater, and Cornerstone, specifically, which also suck. I bought, and liked some of Pieces of Eight, Grand Illusion, Crystal Ball, and Equinox when they first came out. A once promising band that became increasingly insufferable under the "leadership" of Dennis DeYoung. That a rise in popularity accompanied the decline in quality is why they made my list. The aforementioned albums I listened to in the 70's haven't aged particularly well either. Especially compared to most of the albums that did make the list. Another example would be the Knee Deep in the Hoopla album by Starship, which sold far more copies than any of the albums released by prior incarnations ; Jefferson Airplane, and Jefferson Starship. The inverse relationship between quality and popularity is perplexing. The dissonance between perception and reality is what defines "overrated."
@@tawnieriekena7 My mistake on the album title, either way it sucked. Dennis DeYoung seriously fucked that band. Too bad because he is a talented songwriter and musician when he's not trying to ram huge stupid concepts down people's throats. I do like the material done before that especially Grand Illusion. As to the term "overrated", my opinion is an album or song or band is overrated if the hype doesn't match the product. I believe Led Zeppelin to be the most overrated band in rock history. I know they were very popular but so was disco, nuff said. Any album by U2 is overrated since it invariably sounds like whatever came before or after it. The song Imagine is overrated because it is wannabe communist drivel. These are just my opinions and when it comes to music it is so highly subjective as to make individual opinions irrelevant.
Oh I'd managed to finally forget Meatloaf..and you've served him up again. Awful awful. I heard Paradise By the Dashboard Lights the other day and I almost dry-retched. What a load of bile!
I've never gotten tired or bored of 'The Wall', 'Rumours' and 'Exile', can think of a few other albums I'd put up on the top ten. Yes 'Fragile', MJ 'Thriller', G & R 'Appetite'. Personal taste is interesting.
It blows my mind how many people in the VC don't like the Wall. I totally get preferring other PF records more, but it's still a brilliant record with so many cracking good songs.
@@steven3557 totally agree it was in my car CD player for years roundabout is still my favorite piece of music of all time in any category pure joy captured and recorded forever
No, these aren't overrated. You want overrated? Kanye West, Justin Bieber, Lady Gaga, Katy Perry, the list of crappers goes on and on. But these albums you're reviewing, are real music. And in the light of what music has come to, I say these albums aren't rated high enough! (ok, I didnt watch this video, just the title, now tell me if you reviewed any of the above modern day crappers I mentioned).
It's the best concept album of all time, and by a wide margin. It's a fact. The solo in comfortably is widely considered to be the best of all time. The packaging is iconic, the stage show was unbelievable , even the Wall film was a step beyond the usually boring concert films bands routinely released.
I think The Wall is great...my 4th favorite Pink Floyd album. There have been many great concept albums over the years so it I can't say it is the best. My personal favorite would be Jethro Tull's Thick as a Brick.@@zaiusbaltar7091
I remember when I turned on my little brother onto the wall he had that cassette in his deck for over a year! Years later I bought him a ticket for his birthday to Roger Waters the wall in 2010 never forget the look on his face ! Priceless!
Born to Run suffered from the hysterical hype machine of the day and ridiculously overheated paens from Jon Landau about how "he's seen the future of Rock & Roll", blah, blah blah. Embarrassing, actually. However, if you can get beyond all that drivel, it truly is a great album, not overrated in terms of its place in the "pantheon". As for the rest of them, in general, I'd have to say I mostly disagree with the premise. When something becomes that overwhelmingly popular, the people have spoken, so it's hard to plant a flag in the ground and declare them "overrated". To me, a lazy shortcut to claim your "superiority" is by simply being a "contrarian".
Unbelievable! These are not over-rated. Many modern albums and sounds wouldn’t exist were it not for some of these. There seem to be many voters that don’t understand the history of musical development.
I don't really like when people use the term over-rated to talk about music. It is a very objective term and music is complexly subjective. No album mentioned was over-rated, they were revolutionary albums. Not liking a legendary album is fine but for someone to call albums that had caused huge cultural impacts (Sgt Pepper and Nevermind especially) over-rated is just not factually correct.
I think it's sometimes easy to take for granted something that's established because it's familiar and can be pervasive. And then difficult to appreciate it as when it was new. Sgt. Pepper's is my favorite Beatles album which I've known since I was a child. I've been exposed to many styles of music for more than fifty years, and I think it's interesting how there are some songs I used to think were great but don't care about anymore, while others I'll always be excited to hear. (And those that if I never hear again it will be too soon, such as "Don't Stop Believing".) A lot of it depends on the trajectory of your own life in regards to the music.
@@joeking433 to be fair pink floyd were awful without the dodger roger, momantary lapse of reason and division bell were shite with very forced lyrics trying so hard to be etheral
@@raycroal I see you've never listened to The Final Cut. ;) Not a redeeming song on that bowl of shit soup, LOL! Kind of like Roger's solo albums, one good song on the whole album (Not Now John). OTOH, The Division Bell was really good! And Momentary Lapse of Reason wasn't that bad. I really liked Learning to Fly and generally the album was worth listening to, unlike The Final Cut and Roger's solo stuff that sold like 80 copies each. ;)
@@joeking433 final cut was shite and so were the 2 you like, most people will tell you that apart from the chumps who bought the 2 cd's back in 80's and 90's and forced themselves to like it, i know a few of them.
@@raycroal Momentary wasn't hat bad. Learning to Fly was really good! And overall it was listenable though not nearly as good DSOTM, WYWH, and Animals. It was much better than The Final Cut which was pure rant fest garbage!
At last i ve heard somebody else say what ive always thought ( had to wait to the end mind) " DESPERADO" IS EAGLES BEST ALBUM. : Not sure about the rest of your choices though
I tried to get into Springsteen and listened to everything…I found tunnel of love to be his best. People laughed at me…I still think it is his best. But it is not a great album by any stretch.
Nope, Sgt Pepper is not over-rated - though not under-rated either ! As someone said at the time "It's release is one of the defining moment in 20th Century Culture". SO true. It remains the most famous album cover of all time .....but Revolver, Rubber Soul, White Album, Abbey Road and MMT are even better.
As a musician myself music like food is very subjective. I agree on a bunch of these albums but more so on some of the bands or artists. Bruce Springsteen...never liked him could care less... Nirvana... don't get me started. Fleetwood Mac... completely downhill when Nicks Buckingham joined. I worked in a music store a new Mccartney album came out a bunch of kids came in asking about Nirvana...one kid actually said that Kurt Cobain was his generations Lennon or Mccartney..which I laughed pretty hard & told him Kurt wasn't even this generations Ringo Starr..to which I also said I felt bad insulting Ringo like that lol.
I was 9 years old when DSOTM came out. Even then, it made a big impression on me. But now, 50 years later, I consider it to be my favorite album of all, being less a collection of songs and instead a continuous symphony of brilliance with a message which is very reminiscent of the Book of Ecclesiastes.
@OneMan-wl1wj There exists one major difference between the message of Ecclesiastes and DSOTM. Both touch upon the seeming meaninglessness of life, and the meaning which we human beings manufacture for ourselves... (on DSOTM, perhaps none more so than the song, "Money"). However, whereas the Floyd end DSOTM with no answers...just "darkness", in Ecclesiastes Solomon ends with the reasoning that the _only _*_true meaning_* we can find in life is in God. I wholeheartedly agree with Solomon.
Me too! I was just saying that the other day! I'm 68 and I can't think of a more solid album than DSOTM looking back over the 60 years of music I've experienced. From my age it was AM radio with all the diversity of music, southern rock, Motown, etc, to the British Invasion with all those early 60's British bands with the Beatles being the biggest, then to Pink Floyd, then to Nirvana, then to Radiohead, with a lot of good stuff and a lot of filler in between.
I’ve listened to maybe a dozen or so of your videos. You’re articulate and you provide insight, so thanks. I know many of the artists and albums you talk about. But don’t take offence - the other half said “he talks a lot” when I played one of them on the TV ha ha! My reply was that maybe you do occasionally err on the side of pretentiousness, but that this is much preferable to being boring. By the way I’m as pretentious as anyone when it comes to 70s rock…..!
George Martin said that Strawberry Fields and Penny Lane should have been included on Sergeant Pepper in place of a couple of the lesser tracks (maybe Lovely Rita and Getting Better) to make the album stronger than it was. Still an incredible album that changed the course of pop music, so I don't think it's that overrated.
Lovely Rita, Getting Better, Mr. Kite, She's Leaving Home, Good Morning, Within You Without You, are all lesser tracks. That's the problem with Sgt. Pepper, it has the great hits everyone knows but the filler is just that - filler, while most of the other Beatle albums had great songs throughout. Fixing a Hole is a good, underrated song. Strawberry Fields and Penny Lane would have made it a great album.
Essentially, you're just expressing your opinion on which songs you do and do not like. Most people who consider Sgt. Pepper's one of the best Beatles albums would likely disagree with the premise that it's mostly filler.@@rodsmolter5046
Yeah, how many albums even come close to having such a solid list of good songs on it as Sgt Peppers??? I grew up in the early 60's when you were lucky to have one or two songs that were worth listening to!
I remember when Pepper came out. It blew our minds as to what "popular" music could be and what Rock'N'Roll was. It certainly changed the music and allowed everyone else to experiment. Without it, we wouldn't have had that growth. But by 1969 or 1970, we were already recognizing that as purely a record album, Revolver was better, and maybe even Rubber Soul (the UK edition). Certainly Abbey Road was. (Alan Parsons, anyone?)
I think that The Wall is meant to be played (and seen) live. All of those fillers, especially on sides 3 and 4 make perfect sense during the live show. I consider the concerts I saw way back in 1981 as being right up there with my all time best, but rarely listen to the album now.
What I’ve noticed that usually inspires more interesting conversation concerning these sorta topics is going one step further or added one further element goes a long way as opposed to the excruciatingly vague and shallow takes oft given when just asking what (in any way) is considered overrated. So much gold is uncovered just from asking someone what is overrated AND “blank”, or overrated within specific parameters. Like what albums do you consider simultaneously overrated and underrated, and why/how so? Ask people what is perplexingly overrated in specific senses. Like perplexingly overrated just from one artist’s catalog when another album of their’s is criminally underrated, or what’s perplexingly overrated due to what else came out around the same time in the same genre. See what I mean? Just another layer or contingency goes a very long way when trying to have a highly enjoyable conversation about music. My opinions (those that come to mind now at least, and excluding any on extremely avant-garde/experimental, classical, jazz, heavy metal) that are relevant here and typically people consider most divisive or unusual are about Rush, Phish, some Zappa, Back In Black, and a few 70s stadium acts. Stuff like most BTO, Styx, Boston, or Journey First off, there’s Rush, and while I earnestly try to “get” Rush every couple years for the past 20+, I have made very little headway. I appreciate their talents (individually and as a unit), but I appreciate and respect some pretty uncomplicated and nontechnical stuff. I love punk bands like the Dead Boys and Eater, so the musical proficiency of the players is not something I need to be at some level. That said, Rush probably have better chops than the guitarists, drummers, and bassists of at least 50% of my favorite bands that use electric instruments and microphones like them. Can’t really compare a bass line Geddy wrote to something like the double bass in Prokofiev’s string quintet in Gm. Some balk at my admission of not digging Rush because I love Yes, tons of Canterbury groups, a majority of ELP, King Crimson, and plenty of other stuff most Rush fanatics also either love or at least respect highly and see as compatible with liking Rush. Maybe my levels are maxed out concerning such styles? There’s an intangible something that I love that and get from, for example, Yes’ Fragile. That something differs from the intangible something Red by King Crimson gives me. I love both, but different circumstances and/or emotions result in me putting on Red, or in me choosing to play Fragile. There’s nothing Rush supplies that I’ve picked out that another band/album doesn’t give me, and the alternative to Rush gives me a better version of this thing. Really the only concrete things I could point to that I’m turned off by from Rush would be Peart’s lyrics and Geddy’s voice. Those are super weak foundations though to disregard them, and I know it. Especially when you realize I have no problem with other unorthodox, weird, or jolting voices like Jon Anderson’s, Steve Hillage’s voice, Mike Patto’s voice, Robert Wyatt’s voice, Neil Young’s voice, or Greg Lake’s voice. I also like plenty of songs with lyrics that don’t come from places I care for, so Peart’s affections for Rand’s Objectivism isn’t the factor that kills it for me. I can ignore such things with ease. I mean, Ted Nuggent’s politics don’t keep me from liking his first few post-Amboy Dukes albums, the repulsive sexual stuff in Kiss’ “Christine Sixteen” or King Crimson’s “Easy Money” didn’t stop me from playing Love Gun or Larks' Tongues in Aspic. Come to think of it, I’m almost positive a Judas Priest album I listened to this very morning was from their Dave Holland era, and the bit of Burnt Weeny Sandwich I played on a dog walk last week definitely featured Roy Estrada. Both of those names will bring up some nauseating Google results for ya. I just mean that I’d have better reasons to ditch albums I’ve still not ditched if just a weird, high pitch vocalist and/or some philosophically/ideologically silly lyrical content on some stuff was all I could point to as the reasons for not liking Rush. Even my previous statement about getting the same “intangible something”elsewhere is easily picked apart. There isn’t much that Deep Purple’s Burn does for me which similar stuff also provides equally. I don’t trash Burn just because I have Sweet Freedom by Uriah Heep, Made in England by Atomic Rooster, or Black Sabbath’s Vol. 4. I really love them all. I hope to figure it all out at some point though. I’m intrigued when I can’t get into some music, and I enjoy critical listening almost as much as just listening for the joy of it. So far as Phish goes, people really just can’t understand my disdain for them due to the fact I’m a mega Deadhead, but that’s an easy one to explain. The two bands sound nothing alike. Period. Their connection is only superficial and spawned from cultural connections. A fan base’s stereotype doesn’t maketh a band, friends. The music is so wildly different, and liking (even loving) live Grateful Dead leaves plenty of room to abhor Phish, Widespread Panic, and so many more! Next is specifically how more casual Zappa fans than myself will sometimes raise their eyebrows when I say I don’t particularly love Freak Out, Hot Rats, and Joe’s Garage. At the bare minimum they assume I’m just being pretentious, and that’s admittedly semi-valid, in a sense. Still, Zappa’s most renowned stuff is his weakest to me. My picks seem excruciatingly bland to more intense Zappa lovers. The 1975 collaboration with Beefheart released as Bongo Fury, Chunga’s Revenge, The Grand Wazoo, Sleep Dirt, and Guitar would be my desert island 5. If I was just wanting to be a snob, I could easily pretend they’d be, uhhh, I guess Playground Psychotics, Dance Me This, The Yellow Shark (or whatever his most inaccessible music for an orchestra is), specifically and exclusively the original Uncle Meat from 1969 or 1970 or whenever, and, I dunno, some particularly rare Project/Object. Not even sure if all those are rare and/or snobbish. I tried. Then, lastly, I tend to have no problem liking some music oft considered “lame” by the people I most frequently spend time with. Artists, musicians, record store staff/patrons, etc. the type of fellas I invite to the baseball game with me probably have no opinion on how lame, uninspiring, or vapid Jefferson Starship is. However , the other aforementioned cohorts may assume I have no standards when I gush about some The Firm or maybe some Jackson Browne we hear. My standards are not gone, they’re just easily adjustable and distinctly situational. They are a bit atypical, but far from complex. So someone can’t understand why I don’t like Foreigner, but know I love some Bad Company albums or ELO albums. I like an album or two by Extreme, Dokken, and Cinderella, but I don’t knowingly like any Winger, Nelson, or Great White albums. They lump too much into one slot, and I once did too, but what distinguishes, say, ELO’s Eldorado from This Time We Mean It by REO Speedwagon is SO FRIGGIN MUCH… The extreme side example of this is when the people I play/record jazz and/minimalist classical music with will hop into my little pickup truck one day and hear Mr. Mister’s first album, Lynyrd Skynyrd, or, yep, even the newest Taylor Swift come blasting out when I turn the key over. These fine people are nearly all Berklee or Curtis Institute grads, and we may talk at length about Mussorgsky, Mingus, Bartok, Coltrane, etc. So I think that they possibly think they’re “catching me” in some embarrassing moment. It’s always fun. We usually end up blasting something cheesy together with big grins.
To circle back to “overrated” stuff, I just add that anything and everything is only considered overrated in certain scenarios or spaces. Dark Side of The Moon I may call overrated, but not because how much I’ve heard “Money” on the radio, but because Meddle is an option from PF from just 2 or 3 years prior that gets less mentions in Rolling Stone (so far as I’m aware). I will skip the first track of Yes’ 90125 9 outta 10 times I put it on. I’ll also tell you I’m worn out on “Owner of a Lonely Heart”, but that’s because I am truly tired of hearing it, and that something being “overplayed” isn’t the same as “overrated”, and I separate such descriptions. I may use that word (“overrated”) when discussing a band like Drive By Truckers, Kurt Vile, or whatever a label like Thrill Jockey or Jagjaguwar is pushing this month, but only when I see they’re selling out my town’s downtown
The term overrated is problematic. Usually people just mean they don't like something when lots of other people do. Totally subjective. Some great albums here!
Overrated is an opinion . Opinions vary so what is overrated to one is not to another. Same applies to underrated . People sometimes use overrated to describe something they don,t like whereas to describe it as underrated means they like it . Confusing innit ?
For me the most overrated group on that list is Oasis. In most cases I think you said you prefered other albums by the artists concerned. Not with the Gallaghers though. Yes derivative is certainly a good word to describe them. Not unenjoyable , certainly did some good songs, but better groups have sold much less.
This feels like the right place to ask a question I've always wondered about in regards to putting together an "album". The host of this video mentions Phil Spector's production, Thom Yorke's knob twiddling, feat of engineering on Pet Sounds... when I was a kid, parents and family never talked about any of these things, just whether the songs were good. All of these albums have massive well known singles that will be around forever and then album tracks and then downright filler. Thriller was mentioned, 7 out of the 9 songs were singles. I think Def Leppard's Hysteria was the same, 7 singles for 12 songs, Annie Lennox Diva, 7 out of 11 songs were singles... I always thought this was the goal, put out an album with as many possible radio singles as you can, to help sell the record. Excluding Pink Floyd who made actual albums that strung together song to song, was it ever in the label's best interest to release albums that only had three or four singles and then obvious filler? Alannah Myles Black Velvet, you can actually hear the volume go up on the singles, they don't try to hide it. Took me years to even start playing the b-sides of Joshua Tree or Brothers in Arms since all the big hits were on side-A. Or was it that artists did record 9 to 12 songs, thinking they could all be big hits and then the singles just rose naturally to the top? Any insight on the design and choices to create an "album" in the 70's, 80's and 90's would be appreciated. Thanks all.
Sgt. Pepper has suffered from overplay but that was because for a long time people could not get enough of it. I remember going to a party of drama students -- I was 17 myself -- and the only music played, over and over. It was perfect for the time, and not like anything else.
I tell you what's overrated the succession of conveyor belt manufactured tuneless mainstream crap that's offered today. The wall is not Floyd's best album but remains popular to this day. I'm off to play it again now🤣
I deeply appreciate each album mentioned and for different reasons, and some of them have surely oversaturated radio waves, but who listens to radio anymore? I've always thought that the best Eagles album was Joe Walsh's "But Seriously Folks", an album he made directly after the Eagles imploded while making H.C.. On B.S.F. Joe brought in members of the Eagles to play and sing background vocals on in different configurations. Smart move on Joe Walsh's part, it's a great album.
@@robm3569 - Me too! I gotta wonder if will ever get the opportunity unfortunately. The Eagles plan on continuing this Long Goodbye tour through 2025! Knowing Henley he probably wrote in a non compete clause into Walsh’s contract (I’m kidding… well sort of.)
Joes "The Smoker You Drink The Player You Get" was brilliant. Lets face it "Rocky Mountain Way" is a classic with the voice tube he used on the lead was reputed to actually suck the fillings out of your teeth - supposedly.
We all have album dissapointments. Worst case scenario is if you buy a not-pre-played-on-radio album on release day , and it turns out to way out of your expectations. Happened to me a couple of times.
That fits my first and continued listen of The Wall. So now I just hear a couple of its best songs in playlists, I never listen to the album start to finish.
Most of these albums, are for people who don't really like Rock., The Killers are the 21st century version, people love them, but I think they are crap, Critics bands are generally over rated.
Growing up in So. California in the 1970's, Hotel California was the soundtrack of our youth and coming of age. Every line in the title track rang true for those of us who were alive in that time and that place. Although to explain the meaning of the words to someone else is just impossible and meaningless. You had to be there to feel in a primal way that they were singing about your life.
I belong to the Sgt. Pepper's generation. My brother and I literally wore a copy of the recording out listening to it. So we went and bought another one and kept on playing it. Later I found Disraeli Gears by Cream, Fathers and Sons by Muddy Waters (and others), and The Allman Brothers Band by The Allman Brothers. All of these recordings had a profound influence on my musical taste. And I've listened to a lot more music since then. But most are destined for historical obscurity. Check back in thirty-five years, after my generation has passed on, and see what people are still listening to. Everything else was overrated. richard -- "Classical" music is just the best popular music of a past time period that is still being listened to and performed after all the people for whom the music was "popular" are dead.
Isn't it amazing that 60's and 70's music is still talked about so lovingly and even still listened to??? I mean, could you imagine people in the 60's and 70's raving about and listening to music of the 1910's???
I'm sure Rumours was overplayed in 1977, but it's still stunning. 3 distinct singer songwriters at their peaks with an amazing rhythm section and a brilliant guitarist captured with incredible engineering. Tusk is still my favorite, but Rumours is great.
Agree that. Really good album with standout tracks and Stevie Nicks!!! Unfortunately the mastering is crap on my OG copy. Is it better on streaming? Ive read not.
Iconic things can be beaten into the ground so that it's hard for a new experience to be fresh. As a kid, I saw parts of the farewell scene in "Casablanca" so many times that by the time I watched the whole movie, I couldn't enjoy it.
I've never heard Radiohead or Oasis. I was not a fan of The Beatles's showtunes phase. I remember being surprised at the popularity of The Wall, which struck me as ponderous, overblown, and inaccessible. I still like Rumours, a reminder of my early youth.
The Wall…. we don’t need no education….. Yes you Do, and you had the best yourselves… I actually think the sentiment went into society and did irreparable harm ending the pursuit of excellence
Spot on with the exceptions of Pepper and Pet Sounds which are both examples of truly ground breaking song writing, instrumentation and musicianship and-the acid test-still sound fabulous today. They are in a different league to the likes of Oasis/Nirvana et al which are admirably workmanlike but thats it.
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Jesus...you might be my soul mate. I listened to every choice on the list from start to finish and agreed with every one with the exception the "The Wall" (sorry bro...I love that album). Every other album if I hear a track come to play I'll change the channel.
Love the Tom t shirt. WILDFLOWERS & ALL THE REST ….goat!
Disagree with 95% of this. Not sure how relevant it is to listen to this channel anymore.
@@Mitch-6-Strings hey...no one is stopping you from continuing to listen to bad music. Fill your boots!
i just gotta say none of you have written any good songs if you are calling these albums "overrated" you probably dont even play a single instrument lol
Overrated doesn’t always mean bad
That's true!
So true!
Your profile picture is underrated TBH
@@Watcheroftheskies594Not his pfp, but the album, us Animals fans always need to be prepared to talk about how it’s underrated
Yes, doesn't mean that all, to me it means the record is exaggerated or even sainted, too much credence I think, but not as good as made out to be in 'legend' that the album may be wrapped in!
If we're talking about an album 40 to 50 years after it was released, it's not overrated.
roasted.
You got that right!!! What a wasteland modern music would be if these albums had never been released.
@@leehale5828unfortunately it is a wasteland now all the young listen to anymore is that ghetto blast rap crap shame
I totally disagreed. Springsteen in general and Fleetwood Mack were average in the 70’s -80’s and the radio Kept them forever in your face! Just because they still get radio play doesn’t make them iconic. Rumors lost me when Bill Clinton used them as a campaign song.
I have to agree with him about the Wall. That is far too long. Some of these are just overplayed, not overrated. Some of the albums only have a couple good songs, and the rest are kind of garbage, so in that case I agree with them that they are overrated.
Regardless, if we are talking about it after 50 years, that means someone rated it highly, doesn't mean we have to agree with that "someone".
You hit the nail on the head with the difference between overrated and over played. On American radio, the classic rock and 80s stations really cram Journey, Bon Jovi, Def Leppard, Queen, and AC/DC down our throats.
And when it comes to acdc its not even the good stuff! I would put on powerage before any other album and there isn't shit from powerage on the rqdio
Don't forget Aerosmith and Lynyrd Skynyrd..to the max..bloody tiresome...
@@owenball7218 The radio play isn't for the fans, it's for getting new fans for the band and that's why they only play the hit songs. The fans already have all the albums, so they don't need to hear them on the radio.
And they only play the same few tired songs from those bands. Meanwhile, I think Queen's Sheer Heart Attack is a brilliant album that is almost completely unknown to most people, aside from "Killer Queen."
There's this thing called a dial that will change the radio station when you hate the current song playing.
I think there's often a confusion between over-rated and over-talked about. Suggesting that Sgt. Pepper or DSOM are overrated is probably just a way of saying 'I'm sick of people telling me how massive, influential, important and amazing these albums are' - which is fine! There is a lot of music out there, but that doesn't mean these weren't epoch defining masterpieces.
I think you just wrote the definition of “over-rated.”
@@vicariousjohnson9823 Not at all, arguing something is overrated would be to say DSOTM is 'not' a 10/10 album, it's an 8/10. Rather than saying people spend too much time talking about DSOTM. There is a difference.
@@NowhereMan2710 okay.
With so many options with how to listen to music why would you listen to a radio station? Especially a oldies station where they're going to play the same five songs from each artist.
@@MrOctober44 Agreed, music radio has long since been a complete waste of time
Its important to avoid overplay. Any great album can, overtime suffer from this no matter how great it is. I overplayed The Wall, took me 25 years of non play and now I love it again!
Agree. People often confuse overrated with overplayed. Some of these albums are exceptional albums. But because they're exceptional albums they got ran into the dirt by radio and movies/tv shows. Funny you mentioned The Wall. I was huge into that album 17 years ago. But I overplayed it and other 'core' Pink Floyd albums and I can't listen to the band anymore. But I figure if enough time passes, and I avoid it long enough eventually I can appreciate it again.
In addition I also think that you don't always get what the artist is trying to convey until you've reached a certain age, or at least experienced some more of life. Ones understanding of the meaning behind the lyrics may change as you get older. Some things you just don't hear the same way as a teenager.
@@Mirokuofnite Yes, I agree.
At the moment one album which I seldom play because it is so great!! is IQ's 'Dark Matter'. IQ are not mainstream so unlikely to get these fantastic songs played on the radio.
@@huwadams9521 I'm always telling people about IQ especially Dark Matter!!! Neo-prog rock at it's finest, and very Floydian. Definitely _not_ overrated!!.
That happened to me with The Doors. I loved the Doors and played them practically every day from the time I was a little kid in the early 70’s. By the 90’s I liked them but didn’t want to hear them much. But the past 10 years I’ve rediscovered what I originally loved about them.
Your delivery of the 'scrotum' line is so dry and perfect I almost fell out of my chair. Well played.
Anyone who says Fleetwood Mac's Rumours is overrated really needs to have their head examined. Quite frankly, it's one of the best Rock albums ever made - wonderful production, excellent lyrics and music, and performed flawlessly. The only reason I could see it being "overrated" is because its detractors are mistaking it with being "overplayed".
I played it recently and was surprised at how folky is was. Its way more folk that it is rock.
Good point...which could apply to some of the other albums as well.
Guess he likes to hear himself.
I don’t agree. It’s a fine album but far from remarkable. The other ”overrated” albums on this list share a level of innovation and uniqueness that ”Rumours” doesn’t come close to.
No, it was to theatrical, I don't watch soap operas and I don't want to hear one either
I'd say it's pretty difficult to remove the album from the time in which it was released. I wasn't there for "Pepper," but "Nevermind" came out when I was a sophomore in college and it was a phenomenon. And I imagine something similar happened when "Pepper" was released.
I always thought "overrated/underrated" discussions really don't go anywhere and don't mean too much. When you're saying something is overrated, all you're really saying is that you don't hear it like other people who enjoy it hear it. It just means you have a different experience than others - big deal.
I'm not a big "Born To Run" or "Morning Glory" fan, but I wouldn't argue in an attempt to invalidate someone else's experience.
The general rule of thumb is the music people identify with most is what they listen to during their high school and college years.
@@TheJohnnyCotts I think that's true, yes.
For me it's what my kids listened to in high school and college, too, thanks to an ipod permanently connected to my car radio.@@TheJohnnyCotts
I've just started listening to the beatles these past 2 years and really connected with them, loved basically all of their later works and 6 months ago would've gotten into a long argument about why they are the greatest band of all time, I've grown since then, I'm in college now and after having a few heated discussions understood, the exact same thing you're talking about.
I was 13 when Peppers came out and it really just seemed like another great Beatles album. It was a time when LSD, pot, and other drugs were really getting popular in my suburban school so that I think was part of it's popularity. I was older when Nevermind came out and I thought Cobain was one of those rare creative geniuses a la John Lennon. I only liked a handful of Nirvana songs and never related to the whole grunge concept.
As someone who was around in 1967 and witnessed the reaction to Sgt Pepper's I am astonished how anyone can suggest that it is somehow overrated.
Nobody had heard anything remotely like it before and it was truly ground breaking. In my opinion it is the most iconic and significant album in pop music history.
As somebody who was born in the early '70s and so missed the Sgt. Pepper's release, I just don't enjoy listening to it all that much. A Day in the Life is brilliant, and I've always enjoyed When I'm 64, but the rest of it is pretty blah to me. I like the Beatles a lot, but if I'm going to play a Beatles album, it's never going to be Sgt. Pepper.
"Groundbreaking" doesn't matter much to me because I'm not listening from a historical perspective. I want to enjoy the music right now, today, and Within You Without You is tedious. She's Leaving Home is painful. I know that Sgt. Pepper was really the first-ever "concept album." I don't know that this was a thing that the world needed...though now that I say that, I realize that my favorite Who album is Quadrophenia. So it can be done well. But it can also be a pretentious mess, and that's where I put Sgt. Pepper.
Anyway, the Beatles are great. I really enjoy them. But Sgt. Pepper feels to me like it's stuck in 1967 and since I didn't live through 1967, it just doesn't resonate at all.
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I think the fact that it was so utterly different from anything we had heard before is what makes it a special album.
I accept your criticism however. Taken in isolation some of the tracks were nothing special.
I prefer Abbey Road to be honest!
I was around as well in 1967 as a 6-7 year old. My dad gave me the Sergeant Pepper's album as a gift, and it was my first rock record! So it has that personal significance, but it also was, and still is, a phenomenal album. So I concur with you and don't agree with the notion that it would in any way be overrated, but I would also add that my favorite Beatles album is Abbey Road. Either way, there will never be music like this again, and I still miss the boys.
@@camicawber I'd rather listen to "Rubber Soul" and "Revolver" any day of the week than "Sgt Pepper".
@englishciderlover7347 Revolver in my opinion is perhaps one of the best albums ever made.
There’s a difference between killing metal and “hair metal.” Nevermind did not kill Slayer and Megadeth it killed Winger and Warrant which really did have to go. This was the second generation of this genre and was quickly becoming outdated and embarrassing.
Absolutely true. Nirvana didn't "kill" anything. The genre of 80's hair bands killed themselves by being absent of any real substance other than hairspray. They (Nirvana) didn't have any effect on those bands you mentioned, including Iron Maiden.
I despise Nirvana. Most overrated band in history by far, in my opinion. When I first saw 'Smells Like Teen Spirit' on MTV, I immediately saw a little unwashed dork on my tv screen, not a so-called phenomenal musician/poet.
I didn't buy into the corporate grunge agenda that was annoyingly shoved into my face everywhere that I went at that time. I knew right away that my generation and I were being pandered to.
But I did and do know decent music when I hear it and Nirvana wasn't 'it', despite the media trying so hard to persuade me otherwise.
I always thought that Alice In Chains and Soundgarden were much more appealing and talented than whiny Curt.
I agree and disagree. I agree it wasn't Nirvana that killed certain bands (I absolutely hate the term "Hair Metal", all bands in those days rock and metal had long hair), it was the record labels due to the success of the Nirvanas at the time. The labels were only looking to promote or sign like minded bands. I disagree about the rock music coming out of the US in the mid 80's to early 90's, the likes of Winger, Dokken, Ratt, Crue etc. I loved it, it had it's own place in time, I didn't like the stuff coming out of Seattle, "not my scene Man". Wingers' 3rd album was probably their best, but it was released in '93, probably as a contract filler. It was never promoted and here in the UK never even knew about it. That was the Nirvana effect.
Yes, a band like Pantera became huge around the time Nirvana became famous. Far Beyond Driven was number 1 on the billboard right before Cobains death.
@@sitvisjesand Pantera used to wear spandex back in the 80s just to get gigs in clubs but they knew if they took the direction they ended up taking that their music would hold up more on their own Vs being successful as part of a scene like hair metal.
@MJEvermore853 Agreed completely, Alice in Chains and Soundgarden and Tool were the cream of the grunge crop. Curt never impressed me. Also Grohl was a mediocre drummer at best, and the foo fighters suck. I can imagine people in the far future saying,"Remember Nirvana?" And I don't even like them.
I can't however imagine people in the near future ever saying,"Remember the Foo Fighters?"
I'll take REVOLVER over SGT PEPPERS any day
@StephemMerchant-up8sg - All day and night.
And Rubber Soul.
I like both, but Pepper changed everything.
I’d take Abbey Road over both of them buts it’s down to personal choice isn’t it
Revolver, Rubber Soul, White Album and Abbey Road are all superior to Sgt. Pepper
Great description of Exile on Main Street! I used to think it was overrated when I was a lot younger; it took a couple of decades for me to "get" what's truly great about it.
Well I've only owned it for 6 months and can't see how it can be rated as their best album. There's not one track to match Sympathy, Can't you hear, gimme, Midnight Rambler, Street Fighting man. Mediocre at best, so much filler. Hyped up to the eyeballs. I guess I have 19.5 years to 'get' it but meantime it's rubbish. I'm not sure you could get one decent Stones album out of it.
@@manfred747 Well, it's dull, one-paced, gloomy and doesn't contain one song that would be up there in a list of the band's best.... but it does sort of work when played as a whole. Its dank atmosphere gets to you after a while.
I think that Let it Bleed and Sticky Fingers are better than Exile.
@@luizoswaldoabreu2752 Awesome albums! Beggars Banquet is my personal favorite out of all of them
Oasis have never been as good as they think they are
I would say that most people are mistaking overrated for overplayed, or overheard. Objectively these are all massive albums for a reason; they spoke to millions of people. But familiarity breeds contempt. The Wall is clearly not the most overrated album of all time. That's hogwash. I'll admit I have often had my fill of that album and avoided listening to it for years several times. But when I come back to it, I remember why I love it so much. The Trial sucks, but I excuse that because the album needs some kind of denouement.
Excellent observation on why people may feel an album is overrated. I probably dislike The Wall more than you, but would never have listed it as "overrated."
Was going to say the same thing, but you beat me to it.
Well said. ❤
A lot of people have told me over the years that they "don't get it" with EXILE ON MAIN STREET. I understand that because I bought EXILE in the 70's and it took me years to get into it. I have never stopped playing since it came out and I think it one of the greatest albums of the rock era.
Any stones album is overrated to me Their like an old version of ac dc three chord rock just. Change the lyrics that’s the stones they’re a corporation a money making machine, musically boring . Except the early stuff after Brian it went down hill ,they hired and fired so many musicians that’s why I say corporation. Get off my cloud is my favorite.
It's mostly tripe
The thing I love about music is the time it takes me too. The Turtles, summertime, living in Willowdale Canada as a young boy. The Zombies, Beatles, Mungo Jerry and a whole host of other bands that reminds me of summertime sun and being young. If you don't get goosebumps by music you love, you're soulless. lol
Thanks for dropping The Turtles some love. They are a criminally underrated band.👍☮
The Turtles version of "Eve of Destruction" is the best ever.
Yeah, the music of the 60s was so diverse, and so good! These really creative artists came out of nowhere to make really good songs! Now it's all industry manufactured worthless bullshit. There still are these rare creative geniuses making really good songs but they don't make any money or sell many records.
The effect of Sgt. Pepper's on the world was earth shattering. No one had heard anything like it. It served as the very nexus of the musical revolution of the 1960s. It's easy to stand back some 57 years later and say "overrrated", but you would not have said that then.
And people sometimes mistake over played for overrated !
I don't see what the big deal about Sgt Pepper is. The Doors and Frank Zappa both predate Sgt Pepper
@user-qb1sm3rk9r it's impossible to state how influential Bob Dylan was to the Beatles, the doors , and many other artist, Frank Zappa wanted to give up when hearing Bob dylan , Dylan was way head of them all, even when Dylan released Blood On The Tracks.John Lennon said when healing Tangled Up In Blue , dylan Is several years ahead of us all again
I agree - it's funny that as a child - 6-10 years old say - my Parents would play me this album before bed, sometimes. As a father now, I'd never think of getting out an album by U2 or Coldplay and playing it to my 9 year old !! The Beatles appealed to pretty much everyone...eventually.
I have worked in the music business and listened to thousands upon thousands of recordings. My classical collection (alone) was, at one time, comprised of over 5,000 recordings.
I have had face to face conversations with notable musicians from a variety of genres. I still have friends in the business who work for major acts.
With all that, I can't muster up the arrogance to assume such influential and loved recordings could be considered "overrated", even in fun.
Mozart is considered one of the giants of music. Personally, his music has never really gelled with me. However, I would be a complete idiot to call him "overrated" when his influence is so significant.
There is a bit of pretentiousness to all this, a contrived authority I have to assume to determine what is "overrated". Admittedly, it is fun to sit with friends and discuss. However, socially, as I get older, it's become more of an oddity to observe, especially, when you know the historical significance of many of these recordings and how they impacted fans and musicians.
Some people get off on being bitchy. Saying that something is overrated is basically the same as saying you don't understand why people like things that you don't, or admitting that you just don't get it!. I've got no intention to play any of these albums. Apart from maybe my annual play of DSOTM.
Nicholas.... its time to accept the new normal: we dont sit in pubs anymore and have a chat about music. we do it online. this is the 2023 equivalent of hanging out with mates and shooting the breeze. some are rude, disrespectful. some are full of s***. but most of us are just voicing an opinion. of course its pretentious! of course our authority is contrived! we mean you no harm 😉
Nicholas, I agree. I hate the words overrated and underrated. Pick almost any RUclips video featuring an album/song/film/artist (etc.), scroll down and you'll find someone using one of those two words, where...
'overrated' = "I don't like this much and neither should you"
'underrated' = "I like this a lot and so should you"
I think, in many cases, to rate an album or to make a comparison makes no sense as artistic quality is not a measurable magnitude. I never liked Radiohead but, as lots and lots of people, even great artist say they are great, I wouldn't say they are rubbish. But, on the other hand, when lots of people said that Oasis were as great as The Beatles, I'm sorry, but for me this is a joke. And I see it so clearly that I cannot think that is just my opinion. I sense thee's somethig objetive there.
It's tricky because your argument would suggest that anything with a huge fanbase (Swift, Sheeran etc) must somehow be great and any naysayers just don't understand it....doesn't really work does it?@@bmmaaate
I'm actually impresed at how you defended most of these albums in an honest take on each. For the first time in the years I've watched you, I finally agree with you 100%. I appreciated the respect you gave to Rumours, the honesty of The Wall, mentioning Making Movies over Brothers in Arms, the given respect for Bruce Springsteen's follow-up releases, among other moments. Quite possibly your finest moment as a RUclipsr ;)
To be fair, these "overrated" albums are chosen by his viewers, not by the speaker. So he has some good comments about many of the albums. Also, "overrated" doesn't mean "terrible". It could be that some people are rating an album A++ and others it should be a B.
Rumours is a great album. It was overplayed for a reason. The songs are incredible
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That cover though. Its a milestone of utter pretentiousness.
That album sucks
Fleetwood Mac ended after Peter Green left. The band should have been renamed after he left.
@@shobudski6776 why ?
I've always felt Love Over Gold was Dire Straits' best album, however it wasn't more commercially successful than their previous albums despite Industrial Disease being a minor radio hit.
As far as Mark Knopfler 'being rich' and thus 'couldn't be bothered playing his guitar much' on Brothers In Arms (BIA), the band didn't become stratospherically $ucce$$ful until *after* BIA emerged with those big MTV hits, notably Money For Nothing, so I didn't understand the related comment. The big royalties weren't flowing in until after they had recorded BIA.
Love Over Gold is one of the best recorded and best sounding records I've ever heard. Even the copy I bought from a local discount store sounded great on the middle of the road system I bought with my high school dishwashing money!
Love Over Gold is a massively underrated album.
@@MykeLewisMusic Much to my surprise, I own 5 Dire Straits albums.
I have a very strong and romantic connection with "Love Over Gold"
There are some beautifully sublime tracks on the album.
I'm also a massive fan of DEAD KENNEDYS and MOZART.
I'm also a massive fan of CELIBATE RIFLES & LIME SPIDERS from Sydney.
Check out MC-5 & THE STOOGES & RADIO BIRDMAN.
I like Bands like AMERICA & BREAD & SIMON and GARFUNKEL.
I rate ALBERT HAMMOND as one of the best singer/songwriters to walk the Planet. He has written more Hit songs for other people than himself.
Now, ALBERT HAMMOND is under rated.
Some of my most beloved recordings are by Independent / DIY / Alternate Artists.
I consider them to be very under rated and better than a lot of Mainstream releases.
It is good . I also like their first album equally. My favorite 2 Dire Straits albums.
@alanstrom2221 Cool that you mention Celibate Rifles - they're definitely not a household name. 👍
I'm shocked that I agree with about everything you said. Music is so subjective that people rarely line up with each other. Exile on Main Street is amazing throughout, Soul Survivor, Sweet Black Angel, Ventilator Blues, Torn and Frayed, the radio hits and on and on. It's also significant for the time in my life when it was first released.
During that period it seemed every 4th Stones album was a mix tape of some new stuff, a few left overs that did not fit the prior albums and some half finished projects they just shoved out the door. Which also made these some of the more interesting and fun Stones album. I am somewhat biased because I saw the Exiles tour with Stevie Wonder opening for them, awesome.
In my mind Begger's Banquet through Exile on Main Street was the high-water mark for the Stones. Exile on Main Street was a golden nugget that released at a perfect time to be the sound track for my life at a heady time. Physical Graffiti was another fantastic album that released at the perfect time to be a part of my life during an exceptionally good period.
Good friends, being in love, having a like-new late 60's American muscle car and the tremendous music of the time to preserve it for as long as I live.@@robertthurman9866
Tumbling Dice was the only hit off that album. Happy gets some airplay and it might have been an OK song if Mick had sang it.
@@rodsmolter5046 I agree it fit my life so well when i was in my 20s, started with casino boogie then ended with torn and frayed
I like Keef's vocals@@rodsmolter5046
💯 agree. On the other hand, ELO's Out of the Blue album is highly underrated.
Ugh. Much of it too pop. Early ELO was great eg face the music. They still tour without Lynn.
@@Scottlp2 A New World Record is better than FTM. No filler track. Also, it's Lynne not Lynn.
oh yea! Great great album.
i hope there will be a surround version some day.
ANWR,OOTB and time,the golden 3
@@marksomething agree!
Excellent, and I myself would have picked The Wall as number one, although I consider Comfortably Numb to be one of their best songs as well as containing Gilmour's greatest guitar solo.
Yeah, I loved Gilmour's guitar work and vocals but Roger's negativity turned me off to the album as a whole.
I hear ya! I wasn't gonna say it, but Roger's negative, whiney vibe and those vocal shrieks ruin the album for me.
CNumb is one of their best but when considered the very best it is overrated
@@janpierzchala2004 What guitar solo do you think is better?
@@joeking433 The guitar solo is better than CNumb as a whole
I agree with all of them except Rumours. It has been over played because it is a great album.
Exile on Main Street is a masterpiece in a league of its own. First time I listened to it, I was blown away, and it never gets old. The melodies, rhythms, lyrics, and themes, transport the listener to a ragged, soulful, rockin' nirvana.
The first two songs are fire
I was 14 when my girlfriend gave me Exile on Main Street on 8 track. I remember thinking that the Stones must be getting kind of old (😂). Then I couldn’t stop listening to the music, and never did stop.
Always preferred Let It Bleed and Sticky Fingers over Exile.
I love the classic Stones albums and Christ have I tried to like Exile, but it's just boring!!!
@@kryp44Me too.
Nobody who didn't live through the era can understand how revolutionary it was to hear Sgt Pepper for the first time.
I used to listen to this album every time it stormed
True enough and the same can be said of a few others; Mahavishnu Orchestra first time listening was life altering so was the IOU black album that was Allan Holdsworth's complete re-education for all electric guitar players!
The same is true of Jimi; everything he released was an absolute revolution, and a forecast of much of the sound pallet of electric music going forward. If there's one musician who utterly upset the apple cart, it's Jimi!
@@Gregorypeckory 1967 was an amazing year. Sgt Pepper, the Jimi Hendrix Experience and Disraeli Gears all came out within a few months.
@@billmacarthur5310 Even though it was way before my time, I agree that 1967 might have been the most amazing year. Although 1968 was right up there as well.
I agree, the first time I heard Sgt. Pepper in it’s entirety I was stunned. At the time, it was revolutionary, groundbreaking. I think the second side still stands up as a non-stop masterpiece.
The Wall is dreadfully overrated, but the Division Bell is underrated. It's a truly fine album.
Springsteen is overrated. About 14 of us all got hot dates, rented limos and went to see Springsteen at the L.A. Coliseum in 1986. The show was so lame that we got up and left mid-show and went to a bar instead. The show had zero energy and the sound was terrible! Springsteen talked about something (we couldn't understand a word he was saying because the sound was so crappy) for almost 6-7 minutes. People around us were yelling "play something"! Probably the worst concert I've ever been to! Springsteen is just lame, period!
I've only ever had three of these albums - Sgt Pepper, Pet Sounds, and Brothers In Arms, and there is absolutely nothing overrated about Sgt Pepper. What we may individually feel about it means nothing. It was groundbreaking and astonishing on so many levels. Like you said, almost everything we've enjoyed afterward can be traced back to that album.
Sorry - wrong. "Groundbreaking" cannot make up for the dreadful songs throughout the LP - "For the Benefit of Mr Kite", "Fixing a Hole", "Lovely Rita", "Good Morning, Good Morning", "Getting Better".... utter rubbish. A "masterpiece' needs a decent portion of portion of "killer", not filler. And Pepper is 80% toe-curling filler.
@LaughingStock_ There are literally tens of millions of people who do not share your sentiment, both subjectively and objectively. All of those songs are brilliant.
You seem to mistake personal taste with objective quality. It doesn't matter if the songs do nothing for you. Personally, I cannot stand the song "Layla", but tens of millions of people love it, so it's clearly a great song. It's like nails on a chalkboard to me, but that doesn't matter to how good it is.
You never heard of Bruce Springsteen? Born to run? Never heard of Nirvana???? What do you listen to?
@LaughingStock_ I agree. Revolver is a far better group of songs. Now like the man said, if you ditched 2 filler tracks and put Penny Lane and. Strawberry Fields on it...that's different. Good Morning Good Morning is one of the worst Beatles songs.
@@mikeborgmann Either you did not read my comment correctly or you meant your reply for someone else
The Moody Blues "Days Of Future Passed" came before Sgt Pepper and therefore is the very first concept album.
I prefer DOFP to Pepper by several miles
I still listen to it. Best spoken word performance ever on "Nights in White Satin", and I understand it was done by their drummer. It's still an incredibly evocative and yes, MOODY, album. A gorgeous work of art. How they recorded it way back in the '70s I will never know.
The Moody Blues are a far more talented band than the Beatles ever thought of being.
@@FriendofDorothy - It was 1967.
@@HawklordLI Apples and oranges.
I came here for the Born to Run piece which was brief and kind enough. I am a Wild and Innocent and The River kind of guy. But BTR gave us Thunder Road, Born to Run and the epic Jungleland. So it can never be overrated :))
BRUCE is a product of the promotion machine. TIME magazine did promotion for the album.
thank you .@@OSIRIS1980WHS
@@OSIRIS1980WHS people still have to like it
If he was just a "product of the promotion machine" he wouldn't have had the lasting career and impact that he maintains to this day. At some point, the promotion aspect would wear thin and people would lose interest. Definitely not the case here.
I think my only serious gripe with "The Wall" is that they couldn't find 90 seconds for "What Shall We Do Now?" because it's a stormer. _90 flippin' seconds!_ It's in the live shows and the movie (with an awesome Scarfe animation) but missing from the studio album, presumably due to the run-time restrictions of vinyl.
Exactly!!!
Agreed! I even made a cassette called ‘Beyond the Wall’ which featured tracks from the movie that didn’t make it to the vinyl album (admittedly only ‘When The Tigers Broke Free’, ‘What Shall We Do Now’ and a longer version of ‘Outside The Wall’ - I think I also added ‘The Little Boy That Santa Claus Forgot’ from the movie soundtrack as well) - I still have it, with my attempt at emulating the album sleeve! Hoorah for Nicam video recorders!
I have an unofficial Wall movie soundtrack CD that has When the Tigers Broke Free and What Shall We Do Now. I love hearing the sounds of the film through the songs. An official soundtrack should have been released years ago. I've heard that When the Tigers Broke Free has been added to recent releases of Final Cut.
@@trip2themoon Yes, it's on the CD of The Final Cut that I bought and it fits in nicely. They've placed it in the middle of Side 1, between "One of the Few" and "The Hero's Return."
And even though the film of the The Wall should have been on Blu-ray _years_ ago, when I dug out my old UK DVD recently I was pleasantly surprised to find it was one of those DVDs that had always had uncompressed PCM (i.e. Blu-ray quality) audio. So it sounds pretty amazing even though it's "only" a DVD.
@MEGAMIGA or the Tiger Tank song that was left out only to be on the final cut. Nobody listens to the final cut. I own it and never listen to it.
Incidentally, a topic that would be somewhat interesting for a survey/thread could be: "Which double albums would have been much better off as single LP?" Or, maybe, the shorter other way round : Which double albums are great from start to finish? A rather short list, I guess... See my suggestions below
Unpopular opinion: The White Album
This is my stigma, too. So many to list that could have been much better without the filler.
The Wall The White Album .... and slightly off the subject but ...... Mahler Symphonies ...... wish he had stuck with the 7 " singles.
GnR's Use Your Illusion I & II. A pair of double albums. Probably would have made one very good double album between the two of them.
Probably most of them. I can't think of any double albums that are great start to finish.
Funny how some people in 2024 think 1967 Sgt. Pepper's is overrated (or any of the other albums in the list). It's like saying that because I don't like or understand Shakespeare he must surely be overrated. Overrated is something that (cumulatively) has little or no intrinsic value and is appreciated by a very restricted universe of people who want to force it on everyone else, something like eating live flies fresh out of a dumpster.
Exile On Main St. is the greatest Stones album, and probably the best pure rock album ever made. I feel sorry for people that don’t love it.
I’m one of them!😂
@@MrMrh1958Me too. Average at best. I gave my vinyl copy away to someone who would enjoy it more than me. I tried for decades to like Exiles, but I never could.
Name some hits from the album
@@Sean-me4fv Tumbling Dice and Happy are probably the most well known tracks but a great album doesn’t need “hits”.
Exile is excellent. It has such a great vibe that permiates the whole album. It still sounds fresh and the band has never sounded tighter.
Rumours ? It’s a perfect pop album, the sound is flawless.
Overplayed yes overrated no.
Vastly overrated. Over produced, schlock written songs and no soul at all.
Yes, it’s a great album. 🇵🇪
Over produced, no soul, hasn't aged well, poorly written songs with little feeling, etc.
@@brucejohnson6381 let’s hear yours.
@@brucejohnson6381 RUMORS: Great album!
I clicked on this video tentatively wondering if The Wall would be on here, and was both shocked and delighted to see that it not only is, but ranks all the way at #1.
As a Floyd fan myself, my biggest problem with the Wall is that it plays more like a movie soundtrack with a bunch of partially realized songs that were intended to fit movie scenes, rather than as a standalone album. (I'm aware that the movie wasn't released until a few years after the album, but Roger had already conceptualized the movie as he was writing the album.) The Wall was a massive commercial success on the strength of the two most radio-friendly singles in the band's discography, Another Brick and Comfortably Numb, but it lacks the complexity and virtuosity of previous albums like Meddle, Wish You Were Here, and Animals. For me, it feels more like a watered-down "Floyd for the masses" album rather than one that was geared toward the band's core audience.
I agree: Meddle, Wishing You were Here and Animals are better.
@@Chapps1941Meddle! Yes!
Agreed. Too much Waters without the input of the rest of the band. It is like a play and once you know the story line, it isn't as much fun to listen to. The best songs were the ones that Gilmour had the most influence and playing time on. Meddle, Dark Side, Animals, More, Obscured By Clouds and WYWH are more to my liking. More musical. That said, it is still a masterful album.
@@rft2001 Meddle, WYWH, Animals & DSotM. The 4 best
@@stevemuhlberger Meddle is the flowering into the innovators they were.
Probably a bunch of young punks who need to get over themselves that consider some of these to be "overrated". They probably don't understand what ROCK and ROLL meant to a lot of people. These days it's all about how loud, noisy, obnoxious, and distorted you can be. Overplayed, yeah maybe. Overrated?, nah.
Wow. Sgt Pepper OVERRATED?? This album is a pinnacle of experimental pop. Nothing before or since comes close. Rubber Soul thru The White Album is an unmatched stretch.
I agree! Unfortunately we have a presenter and audience that have little musical knowledge (present company excluded of course)!
Absolutely! Sgt. Pepper stands up as a classic album, but I also agree with the presenter that it’s a shame that Penny Lane / Strawberry Fields weren’t included despite being recorded during the Pepper sessions. I’ve rectified the error by making my own playlist version of the album that includes those two great homages to Liverpool.
It's funny/weird that you stop a The Wite Album. Abbey Road?
BLONDE ON BLONDE is the most important album when it came out in 66 everybody tried to top it no one did, I am born and bred in Liverpool brought up on The Beatles and Liverpool fc, there's no bias here Sgt peppers and The Beatles are overrated.Dylan's Songwriting for superior
You mean through Abbey Road
These albums are moments in time. You had to be there. Taken out of that context, they could never live up to the hype. 😮
Well stated! In just 3 short sentences, you put in context what I was about to say in about 3 paragraphs.
Exactly. To really get a handle on any art, and why it was important, you have to try to place it in its position on the timeline. You don't absolutely _need_ to have been there, but it certainly helps. You can get there by developing an awareness of where a work sits in the timeline and what else was going on before and after it, but obviously that takes listening to a lot of stuff, keeping a handle on the dates, and making a conscious effort to blank out everything that came after a work and was derivative of it. But if you were there then you just have all that naturally because you lived it in real-time.
Agree 👍 I've tried explaining the impact The Real Thing by FNM had at the time.
Well, he does mention the context and the time factor and usually says some positive things about the albums.
Precisely!
If I were to put a Springsteen album on there it would be the marketed and political “Born in the USA “, not the raw ” Born to Run”
Born in the USA isn't overrated since I don't think anyone with any credibility at all has rated it as the best or one of the best albums in Springsteen's catalog or among other artists' albums in its' release year of 1984. Overplayed? Certainly. Sold like hotcakes? Oh yeah. But rated highly by fans and critics? Uh, uh.
@@mjhbuckeye Since I was a Springsteen fan BEFORE Born To Run (yes I'm old), You really don't know what you're talking about. I, and all of the friends I have that are huge Bruce fans (who are also old) consider Born In The USA one of his top 2 or 3 albums. It also was voted the best album in the critics poll of 1984. It was easily better than both 'Darkness On the Edge of Town' and 'The River' which both had some throwaway songs IMO. And his performances in the summer of 1984 were a revelation, and the best shows he ever did (having seen him at least 30 times.) I am getting sick of people trying to rewrite history, now that the 'adults' who were around at the time are no longer here to clap back.
@@wmg5852 You shouldn't jump to conclusions. I was 26 when Born In The USA was released and had been, at that point, a fan of Springsteen for over 10 years. My impression of the album, then and now, was that it was his Top 40 type of album, a desire to record a series of radio friendly hit singles rather than cohesive songs around a central theme or mood. It was also his surrender to 1980s synth-pop and MTV videos. I don't much consider 1984 to be a great year in rock music. Largely it was the year of Prince and Purple Rain which I remember being the top selling and more critically acclaimed album, not Born In The USA (my own personal favorite of '84 was the Pretenders Learning To Crawl). Easly better than Darkness and the River? Absolutely no way, no how. Darkness, in my mind, is the absolute best of the Boss' catalog. I saw him three times on the Darkness tour and listened live to the Cleveland Agora show simulcast on WMMS-FM and thought them the best live shows I had ever seen or heard. Most critics who have ranked or rated Springsteen's albums have either Darkness or Born To Run as number one with the other the runner-up and Born In The USA somewhere down the line. The River is a favorite of our host here and I agree with his assessment of that album. Me? I would have Wild, Innocent and the E-Street Shuffle, The River and Tunnel of Love after Darkness and Born To Run and in front of Born In The USA and I say so as a very mature adult who has seen the man multiple times and was a huge fan before the double debacle of Human Touch/Lucky Town. Not that Born In The USA is bad. It is listenable and entertaining, but a little thin, a lot derivative and trendy, and not on par with the classics I have mentioned. You are, of course, entitled to your opinion, but your missive about the depth of your Bruce fandom does not make yours any better than mine or anyone else's.
@@mjhbuckeye Look, your opinion is your own, not that of 'most fans' or 'most critics'. Do not make assumptions without backing it up. Once you make a statement like 'no one who has any credibility thinks it's one of his best' you, in fact, lose all credibility. The most influential music critic in the world (who is in wikipedia way too much) considers it Springsteen's greatest album. As I said, BITUSA won the worldwide end-of-the-year critics poll, and outsold Purple Rain.
Great video. Could you do one on the most underrated albums?
He would but he has never heard of them.
Underrated, Ween comes to mind.
Radiohead’s Kid A would be at the top of the list.
The Slider should be there!
I’ve played Rumours hundreds of times and can still enjoy it, the variety of vocal performances doesn’t ever seem repetitive. The standout is of course Songbird.
I've been made aware of an orchestral version that appeared on a Christine McVie "Best of" collection. It has the original vocals, but with extra backing. It is a nice variation.
I agree completely. A true masterpiece of an album.
The RUMOURS cassette never left my ‘76 Celica that summer ( 77 ? ). I never played any album as much as this one. PERFECT album. My fave was Gold Dust Woman.
There was too much material on double album, The Wall. If Pink Floyd had condensed it down to a single disk by eliminating the redundant fluff it would have been an all round better album.
Huh??
I was underwhelmed when I first listened to EXILE ON MAIN STREET, it later grew on me, so much so that I regard it now as The Stones's masterpiece.
Couldn’t agree more! Let it Bleed and Sticky Fingers I instantly loved! When I’d read about Exile as their “crowning achievement” I was so excited. I remember thinking “Rocks Off, Tumbling Dice & Happy” are the only songs worthy of their last two albums. I powered through and it absolutely grew on me! There’s still songs I don’t love but I’m grateful The Stones have a double album
I just never got that album, couldn't get past that first listen. What the hell is it? Gospel? Blues? Country? Jazz? It has some good moments but it just sounds like a mess that was recorded in someone's basement.
@@rodsmolter5046 that album is like a Scorsese movie. I don’t think we’re meant to like it all. Just walk away saying “ it wasn’t all beautiful or comfortable but…It makes me think! 100% art
This is his list of overrated albums? "Exile", "Pet Sounds" and "Born to Run" are three of my favourite albums. I think that this guy simply doesn't hear what I'm hearing in all three of the albums.
"Exile" is the Stone's masterpiece. "Let it Bleed" and "Sticky Fingers" are more typically Rolling Stones albums. But when they did "Exile", it just encompassed the entire spectrum of American music. It was Stones plus soul plus gospel plus country, and there was so much going on in that music that for long periods of time it seemed that the Stones were the guest stars and it was an album that was made by the gospel choir and Nicky Hopkins. There are other things that are great about "Exile", just pointing out one of the things.
"Exile" is also one of the rare Rolling Stones albums where Mick Jagger does not do something cringey by pretending that he's somebody that he's not. He's not being a poseur, ever. Making this album was so stressful that he had no time for acting. And that's the reason Mick doesn't even realise that this was his masterpiece.
@@rodsmolter5046 No jazz, but parts of blues, gospel, soul, and country infused into balls out rock and roll. This album isn't a mess. It's totally coherent and fits together nicely. The Stones are so loose, but also so tight at the same time. It wasn't all recorded in a basement either - they went to a studio in LA to finish it up and record a heap of tracks.
This is a band that had the best song writers, the best musicians, the best producers, the best horns and piano etc etc. They had the best of everything. Elite musicians making elite music. This is as good as it gets.
Springsteen as a whole I find very puzzling how people can adore him so much. Loved your take on Rumours, totally agree.
You don’t like Springsteen. Others love his work. What’s to get? Imagine if everyone agreed on all things art. It would be a truly boring world. For me, the albums from Born To Run through Nebraska stand with just about any run of great albums from any great band. But…that’s just me 😉
totally agree I don’t get the attraction. born to run sounds like a Marlboro commercial.
He's one of the best lyricists in the business, one of the relative few popular songwriters who can legitimately be called a poet (Leonard Cohen and Bob Dylan are some other examples).
@@billbitterman9487 Yes, I think these constitute Springsteen's central achievement to date.
EduFirenze, I feel that way about Eric Clapton. Overrated to the max.
I think anybody who describes Pet Sounds as another surfer album probably thinks of The Beach boys as just a trope and has really never listened to it critically.
I agree, I'm not sure you could call 'Pet sounds' a surfer album
I'm 72 and even back when I was a teenager I could never get into The Beach Boys, I always thought they sounded like a glorified Barbershop Quartet.
I have listened to it critically. It is not a surfer album. It just plain sucks.
If you haven't done an under-rated list, I would like to vote for Black Stone Cherry's The Human Condition for possibly the most under-rated album of all time. It didn't even chart in the States, where the band originates from, but charted over in the UK and other countries worldwide. It came out in October of 2020 and I had bought its box set last week on a trip to see family. On the day of going back home, it was the first album I listened to. I had to repeat the whole album after listening to it once. I also had Highway to Hell, Boston, an ELO compilation, and a Jimmy Buffet compilation to listen to. After I did all of that and was still not home, I put that album on repeat the rest of the way home. I then found a full album video on RUclips and fell asleep to it on repeat. I've never done this to any album that I have and I have 79 CD albums in my collection, mostly compilations, but this has been an album I can't avoid listening to.
I think AlterBridge has had basically the same experience with US audiences vs UK? And for me I’d rather listen to any of their first five albums in their entirety than any of the popular records you mentioned and most any others you could think up also!
And I’m a late 50’s rock and metal fan. I’m tired of the same old sam old still getting recognition because they hit during a time when rock radio and college rock FM radio was big. Different times now doesn’t mean there hasn’t been great quality in heavy melodic guitar based music in the last 20 years!
And yes - music is subjective, but objectively speaking, people just love nostalgia! :)
It's VERY rare that someone will recommend an unpopular album that I will think is any good but I'll give The Human Condition a try.
@@joeking433 I’d recommend their self titled first album for starters
Overrated? The masses have spoken. They are great albums. If you're young and don't get it, then you don't like history either. These are the origins of an artistic sound. They were new and exciting. Now that they have been over played and copied to death, yes, you are just bored with it. You can't understand what it was like the first time to hear this kind of music. Spend a year or 2 and listen to the music before these arrived. You'll welcome it with a big, refreshed smile. However, Oasis, yes.
I'm old and I still think the Beach Boys are crap.
The masses have spoken with hip hop and Bieber too.
@user-qb1sm3rk9r Hip-Hop (or at least some of it) is great. Bieber, and Shearan - not so much.
@@John-k6f9k Who are they? 5 years from now, no one will remember that crap.
@@tomball7009 That's the point I'm tying to make. "The masses have spoken". Just because something is popular doesn't mean it's of a high quality. The masses have spoken and propelled Bieber etc to household names.
And also if an album becomes very popular, people will buy just to see what the fuss is supposed to be about. Which means even more popularity in the public conscience, and even more curiosity about it, which means more sales......etc, etc.
“…like the weight of the world is bearing down on his scrotum.” Poetry.
Pet Sounds sounded so much like the same surf music that Capitol immediately rushed out a greatest hits right after it for a real one-two punch. Lmao what was that person on about?
I agree that Sgt Pepper's is overrated but only within the Beatles' canon. I would rather have 3 or 4 of their albums before this.
I've never understood all the fuss about Pet Sounds and was majorly disappointed on first listen (and subsequently). I was expecting something mind blowing and found it all very samey. I would rather listen to "Surf's Up" or "Holland".
Talking of samey, "What's Going On" by Marvin Gaye is in that category for me. All the tracks literally sound the same.
I was never big on Sgt. Pepper's until I imported it into itunes and added Penny Lane and Strawberry Fields (inserting them where I thought they made sense). Those songs instantly lifted the whole album to another level. An incredible and unexpected listening experience.
Sgt Pepper and Pet Sounds influenced everyone in the music business. Before then most albums were comprised of the hit and a bunch of filler, usually covers of other people's hits. If it weren't for these albums, the very concept of "an album" as a cohesive artistic statement would not exist.
Dark Side of the Moon stayed on the charts for over a decade and remains a touchstone of Rock history.
Exile on Main Street , Rumors, Born to Run, Brothers in Arms, The Wall and for th a t matter , both SPLHCB and DSOTM are arguably not the best albums those groups released, but that doesn't necessarily mean they are overated.
Hotel California, like all Eagles albums of original material, contains a few good songs surrounded by a lot of tedious filler. It is no coincidence that their biggest selling album by far is the greatest hits package.
The CD of Brothers in Arms has longer versions of the songs than the vinyl edition and was the first album to sell more than one million copies in the CD format.
I personally have never listened to any Radiohead album all the way through, so have no opinion on that one.
Because of my work with, and friendship with, the members of Nirvana , I won't comment on that one at all.
And once again I'll point out that Meatloaf Bat Out of Hell remains one of the best selling albums of all time despite being an atrocious pile of shit.
Overall I found this exercise in revisionism ignorant and naive , and deduce that a lot of the voters have terrible taste in music. I honestly thought i would see the likes of Meatloaf, Motley Crue, Bon Jovi, Styx, Kanye, Beyonce, and Duran Duran make the list with their inexplicably popular dreck.
Hey now, Mr. Roboto is the only truly bad STYX album.
@@kevinstaggs5048 The album is not called Mr. Roboto. It is called Kilroy Was Here. It's generally acknowledged that it sucks. I was referring to Paradise Theater, and Cornerstone, specifically, which also suck. I bought, and liked some of Pieces of Eight, Grand Illusion, Crystal Ball, and Equinox when they first came out. A once promising band that became increasingly insufferable under the "leadership" of Dennis DeYoung. That a rise in popularity accompanied the decline in quality is why they made my list. The aforementioned albums I listened to in the 70's haven't aged particularly well either. Especially compared to most of the albums that did make the list.
Another example would be the Knee Deep in the Hoopla album by Starship, which sold far more copies than any of the albums released by prior incarnations ; Jefferson Airplane, and Jefferson Starship. The inverse relationship between quality and popularity is perplexing. The dissonance between perception and reality is what defines "overrated."
@@tawnieriekena7 My mistake on the album title, either way it sucked. Dennis DeYoung seriously fucked that band. Too bad because he is a talented songwriter and musician when he's not trying to ram huge stupid concepts down people's throats. I do like the material done before that especially Grand Illusion.
As to the term "overrated", my opinion is an album or song or band is overrated if the hype doesn't match the product. I believe Led Zeppelin to be the most overrated band in rock history. I know they were very popular but so was disco, nuff said. Any album by U2 is overrated since it invariably sounds like whatever came before or after it. The song Imagine is overrated because it is wannabe communist drivel.
These are just my opinions and when it comes to music it is so highly subjective as to make individual opinions irrelevant.
Oh I'd managed to finally forget Meatloaf..and you've served him up again.
Awful awful. I heard Paradise By the Dashboard Lights the other day and I almost dry-retched. What a load of bile!
Best comment here. Maybe these albums are overhyped, but the Oasis LP is the only one I'd be willing to call overrated.
I've never gotten tired or bored of 'The Wall', 'Rumours' and 'Exile', can think of a few other albums I'd put up on the top ten. Yes 'Fragile', MJ 'Thriller', G & R 'Appetite'. Personal taste is interesting.
It blows my mind how many people in the VC don't like the Wall. I totally get preferring other PF records more, but it's still a brilliant record with so many cracking good songs.
@@charlesbowman105 agreed, it's dark content with spaces of brilliance and elation. Not easy for everyone to open up to.
@@steven3557 love the Fragile album cover.
Fragile?
@@steven3557 totally agree it was in my car CD player for years roundabout is still my favorite piece of music of all time in any category pure joy captured and recorded forever
No, these aren't overrated. You want overrated? Kanye West, Justin Bieber, Lady Gaga, Katy Perry, the list of crappers goes on and on. But these albums you're reviewing, are real music. And in the light of what music has come to, I say these albums aren't rated high enough! (ok, I didnt watch this video, just the title, now tell me if you reviewed any of the above modern day crappers I mentioned).
well put, and so true.
I love The Wall. In my top three Floyd albums, but I can see how some might not be feeling it the same. Might have been a stellar single disc.
It's the best concept album of all time, and by a wide margin. It's a fact. The solo in comfortably is widely considered to be the best of all time. The packaging is iconic, the stage show was unbelievable , even the Wall film was a step beyond the usually boring concert films bands routinely released.
@@zaiusbaltar7091 Yes but don't discount Tommy and Quadrophenia
Roger's negativity grated on me.
I think The Wall is great...my 4th favorite Pink Floyd album. There have been many great concept albums over the years so it I can't say it is the best. My personal favorite would be Jethro Tull's Thick as a Brick.@@zaiusbaltar7091
I remember when I turned on my little brother onto the wall he had that cassette in his deck for over a year! Years later I bought him a ticket for his birthday to Roger Waters the wall in 2010 never forget the look on his face ! Priceless!
Born to Run suffered from the hysterical hype machine of the day and ridiculously overheated paens from Jon Landau about how "he's seen the future of Rock & Roll", blah, blah blah. Embarrassing, actually. However, if you can get beyond all that drivel, it truly is a great album, not overrated in terms of its place in the "pantheon". As for the rest of them, in general, I'd have to say I mostly disagree with the premise. When something becomes that overwhelmingly popular, the people have spoken, so it's hard to plant a flag in the ground and declare them "overrated". To me, a lazy shortcut to claim your "superiority" is by simply being a "contrarian".
Where was Thriller by Michael Jackson? Now I would've definitely had THAT one included here.
This are albums voted by my subscribers... I guess no one voted for Thriller.
Unbelievable! These are not over-rated. Many modern albums and sounds wouldn’t exist were it not for some of these. There seem to be many voters that don’t understand the history of musical development.
I don't really like when people use the term over-rated to talk about music. It is a very objective term and music is complexly subjective. No album mentioned was over-rated, they were revolutionary albums. Not liking a legendary album is fine but for someone to call albums that had caused huge cultural impacts (Sgt Pepper and Nevermind especially) over-rated is just not factually correct.
I think it's sometimes easy to take for granted something that's established because it's familiar and can be pervasive. And then difficult to appreciate it as when it was new. Sgt. Pepper's is my favorite Beatles album which I've known since I was a child. I've been exposed to many styles of music for more than fifty years, and I think it's interesting how there are some songs I used to think were great but don't care about anymore, while others I'll always be excited to hear. (And those that if I never hear again it will be too soon, such as "Don't Stop Believing".) A lot of it depends on the trajectory of your own life in regards to the music.
I'm a huge Pink Floyd fan. You were spot on. "The Wall" sounded more like a Roger Waters theatrical work. Which..... it was.
Yeah, it was depressing. Without Dave and Rick to balance out that negativity you get the crap Roger made after Pink Floyd that no one liked.
@@joeking433 to be fair pink floyd were awful without the dodger roger, momantary lapse of reason and division bell were shite with very forced lyrics trying so hard to be etheral
@@raycroal I see you've never listened to The Final Cut. ;) Not a redeeming song on that bowl of shit soup, LOL! Kind of like Roger's solo albums, one good song on the whole album (Not Now John). OTOH, The Division Bell was really good! And Momentary Lapse of Reason wasn't that bad. I really liked Learning to Fly and generally the album was worth listening to, unlike The Final Cut and Roger's solo stuff that sold like 80 copies each. ;)
@@joeking433 final cut was shite and so were the 2 you like, most people will tell you that apart from the chumps who bought the 2 cd's back in 80's and 90's and forced themselves to like it, i know a few of them.
@@raycroal Momentary wasn't hat bad. Learning to Fly was really good! And overall it was listenable though not nearly as good DSOTM, WYWH, and Animals. It was much better than The Final Cut which was pure rant fest garbage!
At last i ve heard somebody else say what ive always thought ( had to wait to the end mind) " DESPERADO" IS EAGLES BEST ALBUM. : Not sure about the rest of your choices though
Darkness On The Edge Of Town is my favorite Springsteen record and a much more interesting record than Born To Run. Good call.
I tried to get into Springsteen and listened to everything…I found tunnel of love to be his best. People laughed at me…I still think it is his best. But it is not a great album by any stretch.
Nope, Sgt Pepper is not over-rated - though not under-rated either ! As someone said at the time "It's release is one of the defining moment in 20th Century Culture". SO true. It remains the most famous album cover of all time .....but Revolver, Rubber Soul, White Album, Abbey Road and MMT are even better.
Have you seen the movie The Wrecking Crew? Pet Sounds is mentioned in the movie. The movie is a documentary on LA studio musicians.
As a musician myself music like food is very subjective. I agree on a bunch of these albums but more so on some of the bands or artists. Bruce Springsteen...never liked him could care less... Nirvana... don't get me started. Fleetwood Mac... completely downhill when Nicks Buckingham joined. I worked in a music store a new Mccartney album came out a bunch of kids came in asking about Nirvana...one kid actually said that Kurt Cobain was his generations Lennon or Mccartney..which I laughed pretty hard & told him Kurt wasn't even this generations Ringo Starr..to which I also said I felt bad insulting Ringo like that lol.
Haha 😅👍
Kurt isn't fit to tie one of Ringo's shoes. And I'm not even that big of a Ringo fan.
I was 9 years old when DSOTM came out. Even then, it made a big impression on me. But now, 50 years later, I consider it to be my favorite album of all, being less a collection of songs and instead a continuous symphony of brilliance with a message which is very reminiscent of the Book of Ecclesiastes.
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There exists one major difference between the message of Ecclesiastes and DSOTM. Both touch upon the seeming meaninglessness of life, and the meaning which we human beings manufacture for ourselves...
(on DSOTM, perhaps none more so than the song, "Money"). However, whereas the Floyd end DSOTM with no answers...just "darkness", in Ecclesiastes Solomon ends with the reasoning that the _only _*_true meaning_* we can find in life is in God.
I wholeheartedly agree with Solomon.
Some albums like all the Pink Floyd albums, meddle dark side of the moon and wish you were here! Were great from the fist to last song
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Animals is my second favorite Floyd album.
@mbgrafix Agree with Solomon as well. Let's hope Waters does, too.
Me too! I was just saying that the other day! I'm 68 and I can't think of a more solid album than DSOTM looking back over the 60 years of music I've experienced. From my age it was AM radio with all the diversity of music, southern rock, Motown, etc, to the British Invasion with all those early 60's British bands with the Beatles being the biggest, then to Pink Floyd, then to Nirvana, then to Radiohead, with a lot of good stuff and a lot of filler in between.
I’ve listened to maybe a dozen or so of your videos. You’re articulate and you provide insight, so thanks. I know many of the artists and albums you talk about. But don’t take offence - the other half said “he talks a lot” when I played one of them on the TV ha ha! My reply was that maybe you do occasionally err on the side of pretentiousness, but that this is much preferable to being boring. By the way I’m as pretentious as anyone when it comes to 70s rock…..!
George Martin said that Strawberry Fields and Penny Lane should have been included on Sergeant Pepper in place of a couple of the lesser tracks (maybe Lovely Rita and Getting Better) to make the album stronger than it was. Still an incredible album that changed the course of pop music, so I don't think it's that overrated.
What had it got to do with him ? He just moved a few leavers back and forth !
Lovely Rita is one of the best songs on the album.
Lovely Rita, Getting Better, Mr. Kite, She's Leaving Home, Good Morning, Within You Without You, are all lesser tracks. That's the problem with Sgt. Pepper, it has the great hits everyone knows but the filler is just that - filler, while most of the other Beatle albums had great songs throughout. Fixing a Hole is a good, underrated song. Strawberry Fields and Penny Lane would have made it a great album.
Essentially, you're just expressing your opinion on which songs you do and do not like. Most people who consider Sgt. Pepper's one of the best Beatles albums would likely disagree with the premise that it's mostly filler.@@rodsmolter5046
Yeah, how many albums even come close to having such a solid list of good songs on it as Sgt Peppers??? I grew up in the early 60's when you were lucky to have one or two songs that were worth listening to!
Very fair analysis of iconic albums some of them do suffer from overplaying .I certainly played the wall to death.
Talking about overrated music, wearing a Tom Petty shirt. Irony, thy name is Tom.
Have to agree with you on Desparado. Best album, the rest are just meh.
I remember when Pepper came out. It blew our minds as to what "popular" music could be and what Rock'N'Roll was. It certainly changed the music and allowed everyone else to experiment. Without it, we wouldn't have had that growth. But by 1969 or 1970, we were already recognizing that as purely a record album, Revolver was better, and maybe even Rubber Soul (the UK edition). Certainly Abbey Road was. (Alan Parsons, anyone?)
so many good Alan Parsons albums, overated? no, underated. personal fav. 'Turn of a friendly card'.
I think that The Wall is meant to be played (and seen) live. All of those fillers, especially on sides 3 and 4 make perfect sense during the live show. I consider the concerts I saw way back in 1981 as being right up there with my all time best, but rarely listen to the album now.
Their stuff best not heard sober.
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tales of mystery and imagination .. AP hit a home run not long after producing dark side of the moon!😉
@@shipsahoy1793 agreed, love that album.
What I’ve noticed that usually inspires more interesting conversation concerning these sorta topics is going one step further or added one further element goes a long way as opposed to the excruciatingly vague and shallow takes oft given when just asking what (in any way) is considered overrated. So much gold is uncovered just from asking someone what is overrated AND “blank”, or overrated within specific parameters. Like what albums do you consider simultaneously overrated and underrated, and why/how so? Ask people what is perplexingly overrated in specific senses. Like perplexingly overrated just from one artist’s catalog when another album of their’s is criminally underrated, or what’s perplexingly overrated due to what else came out around the same time in the same genre. See what I mean? Just another layer or contingency goes a very long way when trying to have a highly enjoyable conversation about music. My opinions (those that come to mind now at least, and excluding any on extremely avant-garde/experimental, classical, jazz, heavy metal) that are relevant here and typically people consider most divisive or unusual are about Rush, Phish, some Zappa, Back In Black, and a few 70s stadium acts. Stuff like most BTO, Styx, Boston, or Journey
First off, there’s Rush, and while I earnestly try to “get” Rush every couple years for the past 20+, I have made very little headway. I appreciate their talents (individually and as a unit), but I appreciate and respect some pretty uncomplicated and nontechnical stuff. I love punk bands like the Dead Boys and Eater, so the musical proficiency of the players is not something I need to be at some level. That said, Rush probably have better chops than the guitarists, drummers, and bassists of at least 50% of my favorite bands that use electric instruments and microphones like them. Can’t really compare a bass line Geddy wrote to something like the double bass in Prokofiev’s string quintet in Gm. Some balk at my admission of not digging Rush because I love Yes, tons of Canterbury groups, a majority of ELP, King Crimson, and plenty of other stuff most Rush fanatics also either love or at least respect highly and see as compatible with liking Rush. Maybe my levels are maxed out concerning such styles? There’s an intangible something that I love that and get from, for example, Yes’ Fragile. That something differs from the intangible something Red by King Crimson gives me. I love both, but different circumstances and/or emotions result in me putting on Red, or in me choosing to play Fragile. There’s nothing Rush supplies that I’ve picked out that another band/album doesn’t give me, and the alternative to Rush gives me a better version of this thing. Really the only concrete things I could point to that I’m turned off by from Rush would be Peart’s lyrics and Geddy’s voice. Those are super weak foundations though to disregard them, and I know it. Especially when you realize I have no problem with other unorthodox, weird, or jolting voices like Jon Anderson’s, Steve Hillage’s voice, Mike Patto’s voice, Robert Wyatt’s voice, Neil Young’s voice, or Greg Lake’s voice. I also like plenty of songs with lyrics that don’t come from places I care for, so Peart’s affections for Rand’s Objectivism isn’t the factor that kills it for me. I can ignore such things with ease. I mean, Ted Nuggent’s politics don’t keep me from liking his first few post-Amboy Dukes albums, the repulsive sexual stuff in Kiss’ “Christine Sixteen” or King Crimson’s “Easy Money” didn’t stop me from playing Love Gun or Larks' Tongues in Aspic. Come to think of it, I’m almost positive a Judas Priest album I listened to this very morning was from their Dave Holland era, and the bit of Burnt Weeny Sandwich I played on a dog walk last week definitely featured Roy Estrada. Both of those names will bring up some nauseating Google results for ya. I just mean that I’d have better reasons to ditch albums I’ve still not ditched if just a weird, high pitch vocalist and/or some philosophically/ideologically silly lyrical content on some stuff was all I could point to as the reasons for not liking Rush. Even my previous statement about getting the same “intangible something”elsewhere is easily picked apart. There isn’t much that Deep Purple’s Burn does for me which similar stuff also provides equally. I don’t trash Burn just because I have Sweet Freedom by Uriah Heep, Made in England by Atomic Rooster, or Black Sabbath’s Vol. 4. I really love them all. I hope to figure it all out at some point though. I’m intrigued when I can’t get into some music, and I enjoy critical listening almost as much as just listening for the joy of it.
So far as Phish goes, people really just can’t understand my disdain for them due to the fact I’m a mega Deadhead, but that’s an easy one to explain. The two bands sound nothing alike. Period. Their connection is only superficial and spawned from cultural connections. A fan base’s stereotype doesn’t maketh a band, friends. The music is so wildly different, and liking (even loving) live Grateful Dead leaves plenty of room to abhor Phish, Widespread Panic, and so many more!
Next is specifically how more casual Zappa fans than myself will sometimes raise their eyebrows when I say I don’t particularly love Freak Out, Hot Rats, and Joe’s Garage. At the bare minimum they assume I’m just being pretentious, and that’s admittedly semi-valid, in a sense. Still, Zappa’s most renowned stuff is his weakest to me. My picks seem excruciatingly bland to more intense Zappa lovers. The 1975 collaboration with Beefheart released as Bongo Fury, Chunga’s Revenge, The Grand Wazoo, Sleep Dirt, and Guitar would be my desert island 5. If I was just wanting to be a snob, I could easily pretend they’d be, uhhh, I guess Playground Psychotics, Dance Me This, The Yellow Shark (or whatever his most inaccessible music for an orchestra is), specifically and exclusively the original Uncle Meat from 1969 or 1970 or whenever, and, I dunno, some particularly rare Project/Object. Not even sure if all those are rare and/or snobbish. I tried.
Then, lastly, I tend to have no problem liking some music oft considered “lame” by the people I most frequently spend time with. Artists, musicians, record store staff/patrons, etc. the type of fellas I invite to the baseball game with me probably have no opinion on how lame, uninspiring, or vapid Jefferson Starship is. However , the other aforementioned cohorts may assume I have no standards when I gush about some The Firm or maybe some Jackson Browne we hear. My standards are not gone, they’re just easily adjustable and distinctly situational. They are a bit atypical, but far from complex. So someone can’t understand why I don’t like Foreigner, but know I love some Bad Company albums or ELO albums. I like an album or two by Extreme, Dokken, and Cinderella, but I don’t knowingly like any Winger, Nelson, or Great White albums. They lump too much into one slot, and I once did too, but what distinguishes, say, ELO’s Eldorado from This Time We Mean It by REO Speedwagon is SO FRIGGIN MUCH…
The extreme side example of this is when the people I play/record jazz and/minimalist classical music with will hop into my little pickup truck one day and hear Mr. Mister’s first album, Lynyrd Skynyrd, or, yep, even the newest Taylor Swift come blasting out when I turn the key over. These fine people are nearly all Berklee or Curtis Institute grads, and we may talk at length about Mussorgsky, Mingus, Bartok, Coltrane, etc. So I think that they possibly think they’re “catching me” in some embarrassing moment. It’s always fun. We usually end up blasting something cheesy together with big grins.
To circle back to “overrated” stuff, I just add that anything and everything is only considered overrated in certain scenarios or spaces. Dark Side of The Moon I may call overrated, but not because how much I’ve heard “Money” on the radio, but because Meddle is an option from PF from just 2 or 3 years prior that gets less mentions in Rolling Stone (so far as I’m aware). I will skip the first track of Yes’ 90125 9 outta 10 times I put it on. I’ll also tell you I’m worn out on “Owner of a Lonely Heart”, but that’s because I am truly tired of hearing it, and that something being “overplayed” isn’t the same as “overrated”, and I separate such descriptions. I may use that word (“overrated”) when discussing a band like Drive By Truckers, Kurt Vile, or whatever a label like Thrill Jockey or Jagjaguwar is pushing this month, but only when I see they’re selling out my town’s downtown
The term overrated is problematic. Usually people just mean they don't like something when lots of other people do. Totally subjective. Some great albums here!
Yes, it doesn't get any better than Pet Sounds, The Wall, Rumors, Sgt Peppers, etc. Stone cold classics.
Overrated is an opinion . Opinions vary so what is overrated to one is not to another. Same applies to underrated . People sometimes use overrated to describe something they don,t like whereas to describe it as underrated means they like it . Confusing innit ?
For me the most overrated group on that list is Oasis. In most cases I think you said you prefered other albums by the artists concerned. Not with the Gallaghers though. Yes derivative is certainly a good word to describe them. Not unenjoyable , certainly did some good songs, but better groups have sold much less.
Always found them very derivative and poppy and Liam vocals are very monotone.
Noel has always been a better marketer and public figure than a songwriter. Liam too.
This feels like the right place to ask a question I've always wondered about in regards to putting together an "album". The host of this video mentions Phil Spector's production, Thom Yorke's knob twiddling, feat of engineering on Pet Sounds... when I was a kid, parents and family never talked about any of these things, just whether the songs were good. All of these albums have massive well known singles that will be around forever and then album tracks and then downright filler. Thriller was mentioned, 7 out of the 9 songs were singles. I think Def Leppard's Hysteria was the same, 7 singles for 12 songs, Annie Lennox Diva, 7 out of 11 songs were singles... I always thought this was the goal, put out an album with as many possible radio singles as you can, to help sell the record. Excluding Pink Floyd who made actual albums that strung together song to song, was it ever in the label's best interest to release albums that only had three or four singles and then obvious filler? Alannah Myles Black Velvet, you can actually hear the volume go up on the singles, they don't try to hide it. Took me years to even start playing the b-sides of Joshua Tree or Brothers in Arms since all the big hits were on side-A. Or was it that artists did record 9 to 12 songs, thinking they could all be big hits and then the singles just rose naturally to the top? Any insight on the design and choices to create an "album" in the 70's, 80's and 90's would be appreciated. Thanks all.
Sgt. Pepper has suffered from overplay but that was because for a long time people could not get enough of it. I remember going to a party of drama students -- I was 17 myself -- and the only music played, over and over. It was perfect for the time, and not like anything else.
Someone wearing a Tom Petty T-shirt discussing a list about being overrated...that was enough to change the channel right there
How did you type this from another channel then? And he is reading a list voted by viewers.
I tell you what's overrated the succession of conveyor belt manufactured tuneless mainstream crap that's offered today. The wall is not Floyd's best album but remains popular to this day. I'm off to play it again now🤣
I deeply appreciate each album mentioned and for different reasons, and some of them have surely oversaturated radio waves, but who listens to radio anymore?
I've always thought that the best Eagles album was Joe Walsh's "But Seriously Folks", an album he made directly after the Eagles imploded while making H.C.. On B.S.F. Joe brought in members of the Eagles to play and sing background vocals on in different configurations. Smart move on Joe Walsh's part, it's a great album.
I wish that Joe would go on tour with his own band! Too many contractual obligations with the Eagles right now.
@@kingtrance307 I'd go to that concert, I'd love to see Joe Walsh live.
@@robm3569 - Me too! I gotta wonder if will ever get the opportunity unfortunately. The Eagles plan on continuing this Long Goodbye tour through 2025! Knowing Henley he probably wrote in a non compete clause into Walsh’s contract (I’m kidding… well sort of.)
Joes "The Smoker You Drink The Player You Get" was brilliant. Lets face it "Rocky Mountain Way" is a classic with the voice tube he used on the lead was reputed to actually suck the fillings out of your teeth - supposedly.
Brothers in Arms?? Oh my lol I absolutely adore that record ♥️
In my opinion The Wall is in no way overrated. It is an absolute masterpiece.
We all have album dissapointments. Worst case scenario is if you buy a not-pre-played-on-radio album on release day , and it turns out to way out of your expectations. Happened to me a couple of times.
That fits my first and continued listen of The Wall. So now I just hear a couple of its best songs in playlists, I never listen to the album start to finish.
Born To Run is an amazing album.
Over-rated? I don’t agree.
‘The River’ a better album? You’re not wrong there.
Most of these albums, are for people who don't really like Rock., The Killers are the 21st century version, people love them, but I think they are crap, Critics bands are generally over rated.
Growing up in So. California in the 1970's, Hotel California was the soundtrack of our youth and coming of age. Every line in the title track rang true for those of us who were alive in that time and that place. Although to explain the meaning of the words to someone else is just impossible and meaningless. You had to be there to feel in a primal way that they were singing about your life.
I belong to the Sgt. Pepper's generation. My brother and I literally wore a copy of the recording out listening to it. So we went and bought another one and kept on playing it. Later I found Disraeli Gears by Cream, Fathers and Sons by Muddy Waters (and others), and The Allman Brothers Band by The Allman Brothers. All of these recordings had a profound influence on my musical taste. And I've listened to a lot more music since then. But most are destined for historical obscurity. Check back in thirty-five years, after my generation has passed on, and see what people are still listening to. Everything else was overrated.
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"Classical" music is just the best popular music of a past time period that is still being listened to and performed after all the people for whom the music was "popular" are dead.
Isn't it amazing that 60's and 70's music is still talked about so lovingly and even still listened to??? I mean, could you imagine people in the 60's and 70's raving about and listening to music of the 1910's???
@@joeking433 Or people 30 years from now listening and loving music of the 21st Century. (Particularly the "hits")
@@melreslor2114 I wonder in 50 years if anyone will be listening to the Beatles and the Stones?
I love EXILE ON MAINSTREAT. It has that slightly unfinished unpolished feel too it. Thre perfect antedote to over-production!
I'm sure Rumours was overplayed in 1977, but it's still stunning. 3 distinct singer songwriters at their peaks with an amazing rhythm section and a brilliant guitarist captured with incredible engineering. Tusk is still my favorite, but Rumours is great.
Yeah - how can it be said to be overrated? It’s just 2 sides of pure magic. Not a single crap song and still sounds fresh and beautiful.
Frampton Comes Alive, man if I never hear that again I’m blessed.
@@mikepanick9362 Great album, nonetheless.
Thanks for the nod to Buckingham's stellar musicianship. He's one of the most distinctive guitarists in rock history.
Agree that. Really good album with standout tracks and Stevie Nicks!!! Unfortunately the mastering is crap on my OG copy. Is it better on streaming? Ive read not.
Iconic things can be beaten into the ground so that it's hard for a new experience to be fresh. As a kid, I saw parts of the farewell scene in "Casablanca" so many times that by the time I watched the whole movie, I couldn't enjoy it.
I've never heard Radiohead or Oasis. I was not a fan of The Beatles's showtunes phase. I remember being surprised at the popularity of The Wall, which struck me as ponderous, overblown, and inaccessible. I still like Rumours, a reminder of my early youth.
Most Overrated albums: No
Most overplayed albums: yes
Agreed on The Wall.I never got past side two then changed it at H.M.V.because it was slightly warped.Truly dreadful boring self indulgent stuff.
The Wall…. we don’t need no education….. Yes you Do, and you had the best yourselves… I actually think the sentiment went into society and did irreparable harm ending the pursuit of excellence
Very good to see the much-deserved Nirvana on this. Oasis as well. Can't agree about Sgt Pepper.
I considered Pet Sounds to be more like Pet Dung.
Pet sounds is overrated.
it wasn’t even acclaimed in 1966 lol
Spot on with the exceptions of Pepper and Pet Sounds which are both examples of truly ground breaking song writing, instrumentation and musicianship and-the acid test-still sound fabulous today. They are in a different league to the likes of Oasis/Nirvana et al which are admirably workmanlike but thats it.
Pet sounds is a great album. The sound is outstanding.
Are these voters a bunch of 20 something’s sitting in their parent’s basements?