I got my hair fixed, woo! Shout out to my stylist Mary Wasnock. She works the Portland, OR area! I will be "hearting" your stylist suggestion comments :) www.curlenvynw.com/ instagram.com/curlenvynw/
Could you do a review of old products? like specific bottles you've had for a long time from your stash to see how they hold up ? You're hair looks amazing btw
Ive had that happen to my hair twice so far, people that dont understand wavy hair just like to hack it off. The first time it happened she cut my hair to my shoulders when it was more than halfway down my back, i cried while i was in the chair it was traumatizing and it took me years to attempt another cut. The second time i tried it happened again but not as much hacked off but it was definitely crooked snd looked crazy. So i can sympathize, and ive cut my hair myself for over ten years now.
That's what I do, and I am very wavy at best! I have had expensive and cheap terrible cuts, but the best cuts ever I have done myself! At least I listen to myself, well... most of the time. LOL ;) :p
@@ranjitashaw1872 I don't really know how to do layers except doing one of the versions of unicorn cut you can find on youtube. maybe binge videos and see if you can figure it out?
It takes more technique to cut longer hair and time to do it properly. Time = money. There are salons that don't have gendered prices but rather hair length prices, but for now those are rare because it doesn't make much sense since there's like maybe tops 1% of men with long hair who visit salons. I've been working as a hairdresser for 5 years and only had 2 male clients with hair that's a bob length or longer.
@@stagnantfox3027 makes sense. Time definitely is required but some prices out there are ridiculous. 😂 I have seen a $1000 hair cut and I was speechless. I have short hair and the price don’t change where I go. Some places have a fixed price regardless of hair length. I definitely tip my hairdresser tho cause I can’t even handle my own curls. I get why women’s haircuts are over the roof tho. We take care of ourselves 😤🤟🏻
An almost horror story: the last time I went to a regular salon for a trim, I saw my stylist reach for a bottle that wasn't the 'spray' one that she'd been using to keep my hair wet. I asked her what it was and she replied 'a curl relaxer'. WHAT?! I almost shot out of that chair like I'd just gotten an electric shock. I didn't ask for the 'anti perm'! She'd heard me compliment her last appointment (a lovely lady of Asian descent with pin-straight hair) who'd just gotten a layered cut that beautifully showed off her bone structure and took that to mean that I wanted hair like that. Whooo-boy! Did I set her straight. I love my curls and my days of wishing for flat-ironed hair are FAR behind me. I sat back down and as politely as possible informed this woman that it would be a veerrryyy good idea to verify that her client wants to permanently change the composition of their hair before she reaches for a chemical straightener. Find a curly stylist my friends-it's worth it.
I don't know what the heck went through that womens mind. I feel like if that was me, I would notice too late. But boy, would I be mad. I love my curls more than anything, and it's surpising how many people think that natural curls are not something we want. But honestly this is why I am scared of hairstylists. I would love to cut it myself, but I feel like I would screw it up. I have 3a 3b curls and I have no idea what might happen if I cut off an inch, or gave myself layers to lighten the weight so my hair isn't pulled down. Thank goodness you noticed before she put that to your hair!!!!!
@@redrose8264 Someone with an overly inflated notion of what should be done for a pale, curly-haired young woman of primarily Northern European descent, I suppose. I'd never sat in her chair before (and haven't since!). Apparently, 'Natural Hair' wasn't for someone like me: I must want to look like everyone else, right? That's why I was sitting at her station in a Black Sabbath shirt, jeans and combat boots-I wanted to fit in.
@@saphirephoenix1173 *lightly banging my head against the wall* so not only did she fail to read you as a person but completely failed to communicate with you as your hairdresser?
I can totally relate to the crying after someone decides how short your hair should be even though you are the one growing it and paying for the service. I cut my own hair because of a bad experience.
That's completely understandable. But as a hairdresser sometimes we need to take charge of your hair because sometimes we get horror story clients that haven't cut their hair in months and it looks like a birds nest complaining how frizzy their hair is, like my person, you don't trim your hair, what do you expect. That's why I take consultation time before cutting a clients hair, I need to know their routine and care and how to help them to not need to go to a hairdresser each month aside from teaching them how to cut their hair because I didn't spend 3 years in school for nothing.
@@stagnantfox3027 I understand what you mean and you are right, but as a client I'd like to know before hand what will be done to my hair so I have a chance to agree or say thanks but I don't want to go ahead. I feel that we put our trust in them to then leave disappointed, I'm sure if we knew what the hairdresser wants to do and why we would feel much better.
@@tatianafraserA That's exactly why I'm the type of hairdresser that talks before I do anything, and what I do during. We were taught to always inform out clients in school, that's just basic work ethics. Sometimes hairdressers without professional education can miss those little things that are so important.
@@stagnantfox3027 if only all hairdressers could be like you :( I haven't had a proper cut in 2 years because I'm so afraid they mess up my curly hair. Last time I went the lady brushed through my hair....and you're not supposed to do that with curly hair when dry!! I heard so many snaps I was crying inside. I trim my own hair now. Luckily my mom studied to be a hairdresser so she taught me a thing or two
YESSSS! Cut your own curls. Tried Deva years ago and they used nearly a whole bottle of gel on my 3a/b fine curls. It was a “look” I will NEVER be repeating!!!! x
Same my hair was too my butt and I wanted a few inches off and the she messed up and then she cut off like a whole foot and it was crooked so I started crying I was sad
If you get a bad haircut, call the salon. I was told legally they have to fix it and they will not charge. If the place is legit, they will do a write up to document the bad haircut.
I’ve gotten so many terrible haircuts with stylists claiming they knew how to cut curly hair but didn’t- I swear every time I get my hair cut I’m back in the chair a day later having them fix it 🙃
I dont think hair stylist in general know what they are doing with curly hair so I would not go back to have them fix anything. I cut my own hair now. Done with stylist.
I love my hairstylist. She’s not expensive, and I found her through a family friend. Small shop, here in Santa Barbara CA. She’s amazing. Go to The Salon, and ask for Adela!
Started to cut my own hair because 1: I'm broke 2: I'm from Germany and I haven't found any hairdressers who actually know what to do with my hair. 3: the rona virus (If there's someone from Germany in the comments pls let me know if u have anybody in BW who knows how to handle curls) xx
same situation here in india XD I've never met a curly hair specialist here and most of them brush and blow dry my hair straight after even a damn trim T_T I now follow the haircut tutorial by ManesByMell to trim my hair XD
the weird thing is my hair looked normal when she styled my hair. But when I washed my hair at home and did my own routine, I realized my hair was horridly crooked.
You are sooo right about how expensive specialised curly haircuts can get, especially if you live in a third world country , there is hardly any competition for these stylists and you would probably spend all your earnings 🤷
I can relate so much!! my dad gave my hair a "trim" five years ago and it still hasn't grown back 😭💀 one side is thick and short and the other is long and thin like wtf and don't even get me started on being biracial and having parents destroy your hair because they don't know how to handle it 🙄
@@emmamccoy8381 but if you’re willing to take the drive to Jen, you won’t be disappointed. She’s been doing my hair for almost a decade and she’s top tier.
I'm so sorry that happened to you but glad you found someone in the long run. I work for a great clips, have been cutting hair for 8 years and I take my sweet a** time on cutting curly/wavy hair even tho we are suppose to cut hair within a certain amount of time I'm a perfectionist when it comes to my work and even tho great clips is a generic place to go get your haircut for cheap some stylist like myself actually will educate themselves on how curly hair should be cut. I educated myself because I found out my hair was wavy about 3 years ago and went on RUclips to learn more about curly hair and you were one of the few youtubers who helped me understand curls more, like in beauty school the one I went to only taught literally only one day on how to cut curly hair and that was it so I had to learn alot of things outside of beauty school.. anyways I have some pics of my haircuts on Instagram I need more pic of curly hair tho!! I only have a few pics on my IG I did a curly cut on a wig that turned out nicely my name is the same name on RUclips
before i found your channel i would straighten my hair every DAY. i chopped my hair about shoulder length and my natural curls are BACK. you’ve shown me that curly hair is beautiful and i look forward to putting my product in and watch my curls be defined everyday! thank u penny
BEEN THERE! I once went to someone who messed up my hair and then when I went back for her to fix it, she messed it up again. I never cried over a haircut until then. One thing that helped me is getting a consult BEFORE the haircut to talk thru your ideas and hair with the stylist. If you're in Philly, Kristy Lee at Friends and Nemesis is the place to go!
You can get a quality, affordable curly hair cut!! Go to the salons within your budget, and ask if they have any stylists who are experienced and skilled at cutting curly hair. Make sure you talk to the stylist personally, and find out if they are a good fit. If you see a stylist who has poppin’ curls herself, that is alway a good indicator ... but don’t rule out an experienced straight haired stylist who enjoys working with curly hair. *You may be able to get a price reduction for skipping the shampoo part. **Don’t be afraid to stop back in for a touch up if there are uneven spots after you wash and style on your own. Some stylists will do this free of charge! (But don’t assume, definitely ask before you show back up!)
I've not found perfect hairstylist yet, but I currently don't even need one, because I went ahead and chopped off all of my hair in the summer! It was badly damaged because of the relaxers I've been using. I decided to stop doing that in March, let my hair grow out a bit and cut it in August! I've been very happy ever since. (It cost about 80 dollars tho) You were actually one of the reasons I became confident enough to embrace my natural hair! I admired (and still do of course) how you handle your hair and everything related to it and that really inspired me. Seeing how you had a little breakdown, because that stylist fucked up your locks was honestly very reassuring, as it reminded me of my own after I washed my hair without using a relaxer for the first time...It was really horrible lol. This comment is getting really long so- thank you for giving us advice and sharing your experiences!
@@jennifertustin6629 girl same, my hair was NOT even at all , i had three very visible layers of curls and it cost me $175 with tip 😭 i was so pissed off
I was tempted to get a deva cut when I first found out about curly girl method and deva curl stuff... I’m glad I never bought into it 😅. I’m sure there are plenty of good deva hair dressers but it was never worth the cost imo
ahh penny 😭 i feel you so hard on the haircut disaster. i recently got the worst haircut of my life back in July of this year. they cut it short with uneven layering and i also cried about the progress i made with my hair now lost. supposedly it was a 5 star salon but the haircut itself didn’t even take more than 5 mins. im glad that you’re satisfied with your trim now! im just waiting patiently until mine grows back, its barely grown at all 😭 but thank you for your insight and tips on how to find a good stylist! i will definitely use this next time i need a cut!
i just learned how to cut my hair myself cause all my hair stylist be like "start straightening your hair when you come here for hair cuts", and I'm like 🤨
@@Ilovedotty definitely! if they couldn't cut curls properly and confidently then they should've just referred you to someone else, or ya know gotten more training so they could confidently cut curly hair
When I was like 3 or 4 my mom decided to trim my bangs herself and since I have curly hair she didn’t take into account that it would shrink and they were sooo short😭 I looked like Larry from the Three Stooges
My curly hair salon is coiff é moi in France (in the city of Fresnes), completely changed my hair game i sweeeear ! They’re definitely not as expensive as yours and they make themselves really available. I guess it depends on the country 😊
After TEN YEARS of straightening my hair, I finally embraced my curls last summer and I finally love them! Next week is my first haircut with a curly hair specialist. Your first haircut is scaring me now 😬 but I’ll come back and comment if mine goes well!
The same thing happened to me last year!! I asked for a simple trim and layers and the stylist went too far and my hair was so short :/ I cried so much after that. But I grew it out for almost a year and a few months ago I went to this new place and talked to the stylist before I made my appointment and she really took care of me! She knew I had haircut trust issues after what had happened so she was really patient with me🥺 She cut my hair and it’s the best haircut I’ve ever gotten and I’m so happy with the results so I’m definitely going back to her in the future :)
My hairdresser is in Mexico and for $300 pesos I get a wash, conditioning mask and the best haircuts I've gotten in my life, my OCD smiles at this man's precision with scissors. Plus, he has recommended affordable products that have actually helped tremendously with my specific hair needs. *Will update with his info if he gives me the OK.
@@poshniall that would be low porosity not high. High loses moisture quickly. And you are right, listen to your curls. If you deep condition every two weeks and it's it's still dry you need to do it more often. People mention porosity but climate matters as well. I live in a desert💯 So basically it's not rules and it really is to each their own💯☺️
@@curlynella1011 y’all thanks so much!! Haven’t gone to the salon bc of covid & tbh my hair a lil raggedy rn😪. Was afraid I’d do more harm if I deep conditioned more often but def gonna slowly add more home session✅
@@curlynella1011 ive heard the opposite from other high porosity curlies. and it’s been the case in my experience. with the hair being so porous it can accept much more protein and moisture so it’s easier to over do it and get overload. none of these are proven facts so we can just agree to disagree :)
SAN DIEGO AREA: Sean-Robert Dougherty in University Heights is absolutely AMAZING. He took (what I thought was) my wavy hair and made it into beautiful curls. He only charges $90 AND if the way you personally style your hair doesn't work with the cut (because the curls dry differently), he'll fix it up just right for you!
LOVE YOUR CUT!!! But then again your hair is always on point! Ok...I have to just say that I had my first curly haircut about 2 weeks ago...Heres how it went down...I was following the social media accounts of some curly hair salons near me as 1. It was virtually impossible to get in for an appointment just as you mentioned in your video & 2. I had the money for the curly haircut ($150 for the owner to cut my hair) BUTTTTT I spent it while waiting 😂😂😂😂 Then at about 9pm on a Sunday night I seen a post pop up that said 'Curly hair models wanted for tomorrow @11am, send us an email with your photo, name & number.' Literally tripped over myself emailing and sending to get the spot-GOT THE SPOT!! So in I go to the salon I had been waiting months to get into but was getting my haircut by a stylist in training(she'd been a stylist for 15yrs just new in the curly hair game.) BUTTTT...because the owner(who i'd been waiting to pay $150 to cut my hair) ended up doing half my haircut(and style) herself showing the stylist what to do!! 😂😂 Point of this long @$$ post is get hooked into the curly salons social media accounts...heck email them and ask if they ever need curly models to contact you and be ready to call in sick to work 😂😂
Girl... The noise that came out of my mouth when you showed that butchered chop job she gave you! I was absolutely horrified for you. I've been there before, luckily curls seem to grow quickly. Now I'm like you and don't complain when I throw down $75 once or twice a year for a really good haircut. It's also been really helpful to learn how to trim and shape my own hair, especially my curtain bangs and fringe. Maybe you could do a video on the best way to maintain these haircuts at home.
i got a horrible haircut last november :'(, ive been slowly growing it out and trimming it to get my hair all one length and back to where it was. your hair grows so fast girl 😻
I gave up during the quarantine and started trimming my hair myself. For the price of one curly haircut I can buy shears myself. I don't recommend this for everyone but it's been working for me!
Yooooo- Used to see Mary when I lived in the area, she is amazing. She took her time, loves her work and taught me so much about caring for my hair. Now I am in Anchorage, AK and cannot find the reviews/social media support to make a confident decision. AHHHHH - about to start trimming my own. Any followers in the Anchorage area with a curly girl goto- please don't sell me on a deva credentials, not enough. Thanks in advance- peace and blessing!
I needed this! Thank you. My recent hair cut was traumatizing, and its someone that has been doing my hair for years. Maybe she's changed, maybe I've changed, either way, its time for a change and I need as much advice for thr next time I'm mentally ready to go through it again.
My mom, she's Dominican with her own salon for over 25yrs in CT. I've been to other stylist in my rebellious years and always regretted so now I'm wiser and only see her.
Currently recovering from an impulsive, post lockdown cut where the stylist used thinning shears on my curls :( Got an apt for next month to see if it has grown out enough to give me a proper cut. You definitely get what you pay for!
Also, Penny your hair is BEAUTIFUL at all the lengths but I LOVED it so long. I would’ve taken that B to judge Judy omggggg.... I hope she’s fired by now what was she doinggg...glad it’s fixed!
Also if you arent able to access a curl specialist general things to ask are to have your hair bevelled (shaped for volume), layered particularly around the face and to have the ends cut in a U sort of shape. All of these are things that reduce the chance of looking like a triangle and also give volume and shape to your hair
This is perfect timing because I'm getting my first ever curly girl haircut and I'm nervous because for the first time I'm happy with my curls, but I do have split ends. Thank you for this video Pennyyyyyyyy
Well I live in the midwest and I've determined nobody in my city knows how to handle curly hair. Plus my standards are high because I've been crushed so many times 😂
If you’re in the Princeton, NJ area go to Sydney Albert Salon and request the stylist named Jade. The salon is very conscious of taking all Covid19 precautions (I know because I work in a massage spa). And Jade is super talented with curly and natural hair. I’ve been seeing her for three years, and she’s helping me grow my 3B curls out long. She’s amazing!
Perhaps wear a white sweatshirt next year. Difficult to see the results against the dark purple. Thanks for the search tips. Always helpful. You look fabulous.
I live in New York I do love creative fingers , curls by Candace these professionals are ready to deal with all textures and listen to your wants before they start and women owned so happy I found them
I started taking care of my hair by using your tips and my hair came back to being curly ( not as curly and beautiful as yours) but its getting there. Im also afraid of getting it cut because the last time i got it cut ✂️ she cut more than 2 inches and i also got highlights, which i regret now. I might have to find myself a curly hairstylist.😊
Seriously I wish I could send you photos of what happened to me after getting a hair cut. I did research, I interviewed her, she was a “curly hair specialist”. She had a 30 minute consultation with me. And she RUINED my hair. I had hardly any hair left on my head I cried for years. It’s been 2-3 years now since then and it still isn’t ok. My trust has been BROKEN lol.
I started cutting my own hair because I couldn’t find anyone who knew how to handle my hair. Then I fell on hard times and I couldn’t even afford a $10 haircut. I started cutting my own hair. I’ve made a few mistakes over the years but eventually I figured out what works for me. I don’t think I’ll ever go back to paying someone else to do it.
There are long hair salons that will just trim your hair. I have seen some people in the long hair community do videos about these. I just trim my hair myself.
im 14 and my parents used to take me to someone who wasn’t necessarily specialized in curly hair, so i just learned to cut my own hair at home and i love it so much, i cut my hair dry and its way better than cutting it wet like most people do.
My stylist cut 17 inches off my hair about 3 weeks ago. I went in and asked for some layers and he absolutely butchered my hair. I have worn it tied up since!! My hair is 100% bone straight swell, so there is no excuse, he was just in a "Short hair" phase. I will never go back!!! I cried!!
Next time I will DEFINITELY ask for credentials and look at reviews..I ain't having ot anymore with these incompetent hairdressers,I swear i feel like some of them do it on purpose..
I got my hair fixed, woo!
Shout out to my stylist Mary Wasnock. She works the Portland, OR area! I will be "hearting" your stylist suggestion comments :)
www.curlenvynw.com/
instagram.com/curlenvynw/
Penny Tovar you look great! Greetings from Switzerland
what happened after the hair cut fiasco like what did u respond to the lady who cut ur hair terribly??🤯
Could you do a review of old products? like specific bottles you've had for a long time from your stash to see how they hold up ? You're hair looks amazing btw
@@downwardbrainspiral they're from Amazon! :) You can find them on my shop amazon.com/shop/pennytovar
Ive had that happen to my hair twice so far, people that dont understand wavy hair just like to hack it off. The first time it happened she cut my hair to my shoulders when it was more than halfway down my back, i cried while i was in the chair it was traumatizing and it took me years to attempt another cut. The second time i tried it happened again but not as much hacked off but it was definitely crooked snd looked crazy. So i can sympathize, and ive cut my hair myself for over ten years now.
I have curly hair too and after many bad haircuts I eventually decided to learn how to cut my hair myself. Life changing ❤
That's so cool! I don't trust myself lol
Sameee! I also cut my own cz i was tired of the "professionals" and wasting my money
That's what I do, and I am very wavy at best! I have had expensive and cheap terrible cuts, but the best cuts ever I have done myself! At least I listen to myself, well... most of the time. LOL ;) :p
hey whoever knows to cut own hair, can u pls tell me how to cut it such that i get layers around just the bottom part and round shape from back
@@ranjitashaw1872 I don't really know how to do layers except doing one of the versions of unicorn cut you can find on youtube. maybe binge videos and see if you can figure it out?
Sis isn’t this the second time this has happened to you I-
YES!!!! 😭
The first time was with deva salon.... as I remember
I thought I was watching the same video again because I was like...wait didn't this already happen? I was having some deja vu
Haircuts
Men: $15 or less
Women: $9999 or more
This is why I hesitate 😂
Guys usually have short hair so it’s not the same
It takes more technique to cut longer hair and time to do it properly. Time = money.
There are salons that don't have gendered prices but rather hair length prices, but for now those are rare because it doesn't make much sense since there's like maybe tops 1% of men with long hair who visit salons. I've been working as a hairdresser for 5 years and only had 2 male clients with hair that's a bob length or longer.
Well said. I think it would be fun to pretend to be trans, but still waiting for the operation. Then ask the price! : D
@@stagnantfox3027 makes sense. Time definitely is required but some prices out there are ridiculous. 😂 I have seen a $1000 hair cut and I was speechless. I have short hair and the price don’t change where I go. Some places have a fixed price regardless of hair length. I definitely tip my hairdresser tho cause I can’t even handle my own curls. I get why women’s haircuts are over the roof tho. We take care of ourselves 😤🤟🏻
@@OmfgHiii when I used to have short hair they still charged 100+
An almost horror story: the last time I went to a regular salon for a trim, I saw my stylist reach for a bottle that wasn't the 'spray' one that she'd been using to keep my hair wet. I asked her what it was and she replied 'a curl relaxer'. WHAT?! I almost shot out of that chair like I'd just gotten an electric shock. I didn't ask for the 'anti perm'! She'd heard me compliment her last appointment (a lovely lady of Asian descent with pin-straight hair) who'd just gotten a layered cut that beautifully showed off her bone structure and took that to mean that I wanted hair like that. Whooo-boy! Did I set her straight. I love my curls and my days of wishing for flat-ironed hair are FAR behind me. I sat back down and as politely as possible informed this woman that it would be a veerrryyy good idea to verify that her client wants to permanently change the composition of their hair before she reaches for a chemical straightener. Find a curly stylist my friends-it's worth it.
I don't know what the heck went through that womens mind. I feel like if that was me, I would notice too late. But boy, would I be mad. I love my curls more than anything, and it's surpising how many people think that natural curls are not something we want. But honestly this is why I am scared of hairstylists. I would love to cut it myself, but I feel like I would screw it up. I have 3a 3b curls and I have no idea what might happen if I cut off an inch, or gave myself layers to lighten the weight so my hair isn't pulled down. Thank goodness you noticed before she put that to your hair!!!!!
Who the heck makes a decision like that for someone else without clarifying?
@@redrose8264 Someone with an overly inflated notion of what should be done for a pale, curly-haired young woman of primarily Northern European descent, I suppose. I'd never sat in her chair before (and haven't since!). Apparently, 'Natural Hair' wasn't for someone like me: I must want to look like everyone else, right? That's why I was sitting at her station in a Black Sabbath shirt, jeans and combat boots-I wanted to fit in.
@@saphirephoenix1173 *lightly banging my head against the wall* so not only did she fail to read you as a person but completely failed to communicate with you as your hairdresser?
@@redrose8264 Yup. I don't go to 'regular' salons any more.
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I can totally relate to the crying after someone decides how short your hair should be even though you are the one growing it and paying for the service. I cut my own hair because of a bad experience.
That's completely understandable. But as a hairdresser sometimes we need to take charge of your hair because sometimes we get horror story clients that haven't cut their hair in months and it looks like a birds nest complaining how frizzy their hair is, like my person, you don't trim your hair, what do you expect.
That's why I take consultation time before cutting a clients hair, I need to know their routine and care and how to help them to not need to go to a hairdresser each month aside from teaching them how to cut their hair because I didn't spend 3 years in school for nothing.
@@stagnantfox3027 I understand what you mean and you are right, but as a client I'd like to know before hand what will be done to my hair so I have a chance to agree or say thanks but I don't want to go ahead. I feel that we put our trust in them to then leave disappointed, I'm sure if we knew what the hairdresser wants to do and why we would feel much better.
@@tatianafraserA That's exactly why I'm the type of hairdresser that talks before I do anything, and what I do during. We were taught to always inform out clients in school, that's just basic work ethics. Sometimes hairdressers without professional education can miss those little things that are so important.
@@stagnantfox3027 you seem like the hairdresser I'd trust with my hair, it's a shame I live in the UK.
@@stagnantfox3027 if only all hairdressers could be like you :( I haven't had a proper cut in 2 years because I'm so afraid they mess up my curly hair. Last time I went the lady brushed through my hair....and you're not supposed to do that with curly hair when dry!! I heard so many snaps I was crying inside. I trim my own hair now. Luckily my mom studied to be a hairdresser so she taught me a thing or two
For curlies in Seattle, Morgan Curtner at Cedarhouse Hair is incredible for curly hair, and she uses vegan /nontoxic products.
Thank you so much !!
THANK YOU!!! I needed this recommendation
Girl I would cry too. You were my hair goals
rip in peace to my hair
STILL hair goals 😍
Ya see that's why I trim/dust my own hair. I'm not paying anyone! Ladies learn to cut your hair yourself
came here to say this! but i also learned how to cut my hair through giving myself many bad haircuts lol so there are negatives to it
I cut my own hair, too.
YESSSS! Cut your own curls. Tried Deva years ago and they used nearly a whole bottle of gel on my 3a/b fine curls. It was a “look” I will NEVER be repeating!!!! x
@@TheSiobhan12 crunch crunch
I'll take a free messed up haircut over an expensive messed up haircut any day 😂
I had hair down to my bra. Asked for a trim. Ended up with a 70s mullet. No I didn't cry, went home, grabed my scissorse, turnd it into a pixie cut.
This happened to me 2 years ago and I haven’t had a real trim since
@@cynthiacappellano5432 Sad :(
It's ok. My hair is now down to my shoulders and I wanna grow it till my belly botton😁 What is your hair goal length?
I just went through the same thing a couple of weeks ago 😭 currently growing out my 70s mullet
@@No_aestheticly_pleasing_drinks the waist like my abuela 😂
@@cynthiacappellano5432 I had to google that :)) I hope you'll get there.
I always feel so damn excited when Penny uploads bro, like seriously, so glad I found your channel!
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Dude, me too. I could probably even watch of Penny breathing and I would give it an 11/10 👌🏽
THAT HAIR SLAUGHTER HOW DARE SHE 😂😤 love you 🥺💕
This is exactly what my mom did to me during quarantine 😢
oof im sorry :(
Same my hair was too my butt and I wanted a few inches off and the she messed up and then she cut off like a whole foot and it was crooked so I started crying I was sad
I have so curly arab hair and I go to the stylist Sonia "élégance à l'italienne" she's the best, but I live in Paris dunno if it's useful to someone
It is! Thank you 😊
Thank you sooo much!! I actually have arab curly hair too 🥰 Whats the name of her hair salon? I need a trim so bad 😣
@@Ablithia you can contact her on Facebook! She works in different places it's better to ask her. She's "élégance à l'italienne"
I am obsessed with your hair😭😍😍😍 I embraced my natural hair because of you!
Omg me too!
aw so happy for you!
If you get a bad haircut, call the salon. I was told legally they have to fix it and they will not charge. If the place is legit, they will do a write up to document the bad haircut.
Oh wow, I didn't know that!!
I’ve gotten so many terrible haircuts with stylists claiming they knew how to cut curly hair but didn’t- I swear every time I get my hair cut I’m back in the chair a day later having them fix it 🙃
I would not want them tryna fix it though 😂
I dont think hair stylist in general know what they are doing with curly hair so I would not go back to have them fix anything. I cut my own hair now. Done with stylist.
I love my hairstylist. She’s not expensive, and I found her through a family friend. Small shop, here in Santa Barbara CA. She’s amazing. Go to The Salon, and ask for Adela!
Thank you! Starting to think I was the only one who has found good, affordable haircuts!
What’s the name of the salon? Thank you so much btw
Started to cut my own hair because
1: I'm broke
2: I'm from Germany and I haven't found any hairdressers who actually know what to do with my hair.
3: the rona virus
(If there's someone from Germany in the comments pls let me know if u have anybody in BW who knows how to handle curls) xx
same situation here in india XD
I've never met a curly hair specialist here and most of them brush and blow dry my hair straight after even a damn trim T_T
I now follow the haircut tutorial by ManesByMell to trim my hair XD
Same in Quebec
Falls du mal in München bist, kann ich dir helfen aber BW leider nicht :(
Nur Produkte-mäßig
@@charm-mae hab mich auch schon gefragt ob es curly hair salons hier in Deutschland/BW gibt
@@l_in__k6881 also hier in München kenn ich was aber nicht BW. Du kannst es aber mal in einem Afro Shop versuchen. Die gibt es ja öfter in Deutschland
How did she manage to cut it that uneven and not notice it?
the weird thing is my hair looked normal when she styled my hair. But when I washed my hair at home and did my own routine, I realized my hair was horridly crooked.
Not cross checking.
I’ve had my hair cut and styled and found out it was crooked later!!! So sad how they do people sometimes
@@PennyTovar this is why sometimes “deva cuts” and dry cuts aren’t always the best. A wet cut or cut on straight her should never leave you crooked
You are sooo right about how expensive specialised curly haircuts can get, especially if you live in a third world country , there is hardly any competition for these stylists and you would probably spend all your earnings 🤷
I can relate so much!! my dad gave my hair a "trim" five years ago and it still hasn't grown back 😭💀 one side is thick and short and the other is long and thin like wtf and don't even get me started on being biracial and having parents destroy your hair because they don't know how to handle it 🙄
im so sorry :(
@@PennyTovar ily penny 🥺 your videos have helped me find natural, safe products that actually work! tysm 🥰
Jennifer Seiler in Jersey she is everything curly certified. Her Instagram is @jendidthat
I just looked her up is 1hr 21mins from me
I'm in Jersey do you know anyone closer to me? I'm 15 mine away from Philadelphia
@@emmamccoy8381 but if you’re willing to take the drive to Jen, you won’t be disappointed. She’s been doing my hair for almost a decade and she’s top tier.
@@sneakerteacher89 OK thank you for putting her information on here her work looks amazing!! 🙂
how much does a haircut cost? does she work in a salon im trying to look it up lol
@@garcuh9246 I’m not sure.. prices vary depending the service and length. The shop is called Salon Society in Short Hills.
Omg we need an updated hair routine 🙂
This is why I learned to cut my own hair. I ain’t paying no one to mess up my hair. I can mess up my own hair for free!
I'm so sorry that happened to you but glad you found someone in the long run.
I work for a great clips, have been cutting hair for 8 years and I take my sweet a** time on cutting curly/wavy hair even tho we are suppose to cut hair within a certain amount of time I'm a perfectionist when it comes to my work and even tho great clips is a generic place to go get your haircut for cheap some stylist like myself actually will educate themselves on how curly hair should be cut. I educated myself because I found out my hair was wavy about 3 years ago and went on RUclips to learn more about curly hair and you were one of the few youtubers who helped me understand curls more, like in beauty school the one I went to only taught literally only one day on how to cut curly hair and that was it so I had to learn alot of things outside of beauty school.. anyways I have some pics of my haircuts on Instagram I need more pic of curly hair tho!! I only have a few pics on my IG I did a curly cut on a wig that turned out nicely my name is the same name on RUclips
before i found your channel i would straighten my hair every DAY. i chopped my hair about shoulder length and my natural curls are BACK. you’ve shown me that curly hair is beautiful and i look forward to putting my product in and watch my curls be defined everyday!
thank u penny
Awwwww
BEEN THERE! I once went to someone who messed up my hair and then when I went back for her to fix it, she messed it up again. I never cried over a haircut until then.
One thing that helped me is getting a consult BEFORE the haircut to talk thru your ideas and hair with the stylist. If you're in Philly, Kristy Lee at Friends and Nemesis is the place to go!
YAAY I'm early! 💖 I've been binge watching all your videos. Your my fave youtuber 🥰 Told my cousin to suscribe
She did an amazing job especially after it was styled just WOW
You can get a quality, affordable curly hair cut!! Go to the salons within your budget, and ask if they have any stylists who are experienced and skilled at cutting curly hair. Make sure you talk to the stylist personally, and find out if they are a good fit.
If you see a stylist who has poppin’ curls herself, that is alway a good indicator ... but don’t rule out an experienced straight haired stylist who enjoys working with curly hair.
*You may be able to get a price reduction for skipping the shampoo part. **Don’t be afraid to stop back in for a touch up if there are uneven spots after you wash and style on your own. Some stylists will do this free of charge! (But don’t assume, definitely ask before you show back up!)
I'm getting major curl envy bc your curls are so pretty!
I need a haircut now but I’m scared to go just anywhere 🥺
in this video I talk about how to find a qualified stylist! :)
I've not found perfect hairstylist yet, but I currently don't even need one, because I went ahead and chopped off all of my hair in the summer! It was badly damaged because of the relaxers I've been using. I decided to stop doing that in March, let my hair grow out a bit and cut it in August! I've been very happy ever since. (It cost about 80 dollars tho)
You were actually one of the reasons I became confident enough to embrace my natural hair! I admired (and still do of course) how you handle your hair and everything related to it and that really inspired me. Seeing how you had a little breakdown, because that stylist fucked up your locks was honestly very reassuring, as it reminded me of my own after I washed my hair without using a relaxer for the first time...It was really horrible lol.
This comment is getting really long so- thank you for giving us advice and sharing your experiences!
I one time when to go get my hair done and NEVER AGAIN, i cut my own hair now. I used to have THICK hair now it’s slowly getting thicker again.
We remember... The Deva Cut 😐
rip in peace to my hair :(
I got a diva cut once. It was honestly horrible. Never again.
@@jennifertustin6629 girl same, my hair was NOT even at all , i had three very visible layers of curls and it cost me $175 with tip 😭 i was so pissed off
I was tempted to get a deva cut when I first found out about curly girl method and deva curl stuff... I’m glad I never bought into it 😅. I’m sure there are plenty of good deva hair dressers but it was never worth the cost imo
What happened? I have been following for almost a year. I thought she liked the devacut..😵
Girl I had a bad haircut too last year !!😭😭😭 Idk how you didn't leave the salon in tears😭😭 I'm happy for you it's grown back out though 💕💕💕
Was any one else mad that she didn’t say let’s take a good gander when she was revealing her results of the cut
ahh penny 😭 i feel you so hard on the haircut disaster. i recently got the worst haircut of my life back in July of this year. they cut it short with uneven layering and i also cried about the progress i made with my hair now lost. supposedly it was a 5 star salon but the haircut itself didn’t even take more than 5 mins. im glad that you’re satisfied with your trim now! im just waiting patiently until mine grows back, its barely grown at all 😭 but thank you for your insight and tips on how to find a good stylist! i will definitely use this next time i need a cut!
i just learned how to cut my hair myself cause all my hair stylist be like "start straightening your hair when you come here for hair cuts", and I'm like 🤨
“Curly certified” ppl at ulta be like: let’s straighten it before the trim 👁👄👁
What the hell? Why on earth would it make sense to them to cut your hair straight if you wear it curly, honestly that's so stupid
@@cynthiacappellano5432 !!!
@@redrose8264 that's what I'm saying! like if my hair stressed them out that much, they could've referred me to someone else.
@@Ilovedotty definitely! if they couldn't cut curls properly and confidently then they should've just referred you to someone else, or ya know gotten more training so they could confidently cut curly hair
When I was like 3 or 4 my mom decided to trim my bangs herself and since I have curly hair she didn’t take into account that it would shrink and they were sooo short😭 I looked like Larry from the Three Stooges
My curly hair salon is coiff é moi in France (in the city of Fresnes), completely changed my hair game i sweeeear !
They’re definitely not as expensive as yours and they make themselves really available. I guess it depends on the country 😊
After TEN YEARS of straightening my hair, I finally embraced my curls last summer and I finally love them! Next week is my first haircut with a curly hair specialist. Your first haircut is scaring me now 😬 but I’ll come back and comment if mine goes well!
If you’re in Chicago, Illinois - Jealissa from Jwade studios is amazing!
YES THANK YOU SO MUCH ASAWWHH. I need a haircut so bad but I was so scared ahahah thank you so much
@@Sofie2734 lol! No problem - if you go, let her know Melissa (angie’s friend) sent you - she’ll know who I am.
THANK YOU SO MUCH 😭 I’m letting my hair do it’s thing w/ no heat & needed to know someone from Chicago . YOU LIFE SAVER
The same thing happened to me last year!! I asked for a simple trim and layers and the stylist went too far and my hair was so short :/ I cried so much after that. But I grew it out for almost a year and a few months ago I went to this new place and talked to the stylist before I made my appointment and she really took care of me! She knew I had haircut trust issues after what had happened so she was really patient with me🥺 She cut my hair and it’s the best haircut I’ve ever gotten and I’m so happy with the results so I’m definitely going back to her in the future :)
My hairdresser is in Mexico and for $300 pesos I get a wash, conditioning mask and the best haircuts I've gotten in my life, my OCD smiles at this man's precision with scissors. Plus, he has recommended affordable products that have actually helped tremendously with my specific hair needs.
*Will update with his info if he gives me the OK.
Giiirl, how often are you deep conditioning?!? Your hair is GOALS 💯 I DREAM of having moisturized, healthy curls like yours 💜
Once a week is great👍 Especially if your hair is very thirsty or at least 2 weeks.
if you have high porosity hair, once a week can be too often and can lead to moisture overload! listen to your curls :))
@@poshniall that would be low porosity not high. High loses moisture quickly. And you are right, listen to your curls. If you deep condition every two weeks and it's it's still dry you need to do it more often. People mention porosity but climate matters as well. I live in a desert💯 So basically it's not rules and it really is to each their own💯☺️
@@curlynella1011 y’all thanks so much!! Haven’t gone to the salon bc of covid & tbh my hair a lil raggedy rn😪. Was afraid I’d do more harm if I deep conditioned more often but def gonna slowly add more home session✅
@@curlynella1011 ive heard the opposite from other high porosity curlies. and it’s been the case in my experience. with the hair being so porous it can accept much more protein and moisture so it’s easier to over do it and get overload. none of these are proven facts so we can just agree to disagree :)
It looks great!! So glad ur happy with how it was fixed after that awful haircut!
“Come on let’s get to it, I hope that they don’t screw it” 😂😂lmao
You rock with this new haircut.
I love the bouncy curls when you get a trim 💜
I ended up learning how to cut my own hair finding a trusty stylist is a struggle frfr
I hear you! The pandemic got me to try cutting my own hair, and I actually was very happy! Needless to say, going to be doing it again!
SAN DIEGO AREA: Sean-Robert Dougherty in University Heights is absolutely AMAZING. He took (what I thought was) my wavy hair and made it into beautiful curls. He only charges $90 AND if the way you personally style your hair doesn't work with the cut (because the curls dry differently), he'll fix it up just right for you!
Thank you 🙏🏼
I’ve never been able to find a curly hair stylist so I had to learn and cut my own hair ☹️
Same.
That’s a great way to save money though!! And now, if you have kids you can do it yourself!! 😂💕
LOVE YOUR CUT!!! But then again your hair is always on point! Ok...I have to just say that I had my first curly haircut about 2 weeks ago...Heres how it went down...I was following the social media accounts of some curly hair salons near me as 1. It was virtually impossible to get in for an appointment just as you mentioned in your video & 2. I had the money for the curly haircut ($150 for the owner to cut my hair) BUTTTTT I spent it while waiting 😂😂😂😂 Then at about 9pm on a Sunday night I seen a post pop up that said 'Curly hair models wanted for tomorrow @11am, send us an email with your photo, name & number.' Literally tripped over myself emailing and sending to get the spot-GOT THE SPOT!! So in I go to the salon I had been waiting months to get into but was getting my haircut by a stylist in training(she'd been a stylist for 15yrs just new in the curly hair game.) BUTTTT...because the owner(who i'd been waiting to pay $150 to cut my hair) ended up doing half my haircut(and style) herself showing the stylist what to do!! 😂😂 Point of this long @$$ post is get hooked into the curly salons social media accounts...heck email them and ask if they ever need curly models to contact you and be ready to call in sick to work 😂😂
Girl... The noise that came out of my mouth when you showed that butchered chop job she gave you! I was absolutely horrified for you. I've been there before, luckily curls seem to grow quickly. Now I'm like you and don't complain when I throw down $75 once or twice a year for a really good haircut. It's also been really helpful to learn how to trim and shape my own hair, especially my curtain bangs and fringe. Maybe you could do a video on the best way to maintain these haircuts at home.
Love that curly hair stylist recommendation idea. I never even knew there was a thing like a curly hair haircut. 😔 Well, now I know! Thank you!!
i got a horrible haircut last november :'(, ive been slowly growing it out and trimming it to get my hair all one length and back to where it was. your hair grows so fast girl 😻
I've been waiting for a video about this ever since you talked about it on instagram
I asked for a trim and she took off 12 inches 😭 cried myself to sleep that day 😂
I gave up during the quarantine and started trimming my hair myself. For the price of one curly haircut I can buy shears myself. I don't recommend this for everyone but it's been working for me!
Looks fantastic Penny, so glad it turned out well for you this time 😊
I went to a hair stylist anD I lost so much definition in my curls 🙃
man that sucks :( it's hard to find people with good credentials
Yooooo- Used to see Mary when I lived in the area, she is amazing. She took her time, loves her work and taught me so much about caring for my hair. Now I am in Anchorage, AK and cannot find the reviews/social media support to make a confident decision. AHHHHH - about to start trimming my own. Any followers in the Anchorage area with a curly girl goto- please don't sell me on a deva credentials, not enough. Thanks in advance- peace and blessing!
Dayna @ Gary Charles Salon in Fox Chase, PA!
your hair is SO pretty. my mama has beautiful curls like you and i've always been so jealous
Chesticles!!!
Shout out to Lan at Top Haircuts on Skillman
in Dallas, Tx. She's a goddess!!!!
I needed this! Thank you. My recent hair cut was traumatizing, and its someone that has been doing my hair for years. Maybe she's changed, maybe I've changed, either way, its time for a change and I need as much advice for thr next time I'm mentally ready to go through it again.
girl i’ve had the exact same thing happen to me so i know how terrible it is :( so glad you had a better experience this time!
*Hi Penny I love youuuuuuu !!* 😁💕
Your hair looks beautiful 😍and longer too after the cut, Mary is amazing!
I clicked so fast yes her hair looks amazing masha'allah
same here!
“What color is my underwear!?” 🤣🤣☠️☠️☠️
My mom, she's Dominican with her own salon for over 25yrs in CT. I've been to other stylist in my rebellious years and always regretted so now I'm wiser and only see her.
Currently recovering from an impulsive, post lockdown cut where the stylist used thinning shears on my curls :( Got an apt for next month to see if it has grown out enough to give me a proper cut. You definitely get what you pay for!
Also, Penny your hair is BEAUTIFUL at all the lengths but I LOVED it so long. I would’ve taken that B to judge Judy omggggg.... I hope she’s fired by now what was she doinggg...glad it’s fixed!
Also if you arent able to access a curl specialist general things to ask are to have your hair bevelled (shaped for volume), layered particularly around the face and to have the ends cut in a U sort of shape. All of these are things that reduce the chance of looking like a triangle and also give volume and shape to your hair
This is perfect timing because I'm getting my first ever curly girl haircut and I'm nervous because for the first time I'm happy with my curls, but I do have split ends. Thank you for this video Pennyyyyyyyy
Well I live in the midwest and I've determined nobody in my city knows how to handle curly hair. Plus my standards are high because I've been crushed so many times 😂
Bruh my sister cut my hair didn't go well i live in Wisconsin and i found a couple they're a little expensive though soo yeah
I feel you. I live in MO and my search for a decent cut goes on.
@@dawnonanian9886 I live in MO too so I feel your pain! 😂
my curly hair stylist is in Orlando, FL. Mall of Millenia area. She works at Prive Salon and her name is Alexis!!!! SHES AMAZING AND I LOVE HER.
omgg tysm ❤️
I live in the Portland metro area, and Mary cuts my hair, too! She's wonderful!
If you’re in the Princeton, NJ area go to Sydney Albert Salon and request the stylist named Jade. The salon is very conscious of taking all Covid19 precautions (I know because I work in a massage spa). And Jade is super talented with curly and natural hair. I’ve been seeing her for three years, and she’s helping me grow my 3B curls out long. She’s amazing!
In all honesty your hair is so gorgeous😍😍
Perhaps wear a white sweatshirt next year. Difficult to see the results against the dark purple. Thanks for the search tips. Always helpful. You look fabulous.
Good idea!
"hair slotter" YAAAAS QUEEN PREACH IT!
I live in New York I do love creative fingers , curls by Candace these professionals are ready to deal with all textures and listen to your wants before they start and women owned so happy I found them
I started taking care of my hair by using your tips and my hair came back to being curly ( not as curly and beautiful as yours) but its getting there. Im also afraid of getting it cut because the last time i got it cut ✂️ she cut more than 2 inches and i also got highlights, which i regret now. I might have to find myself a curly hairstylist.😊
Seriously I wish I could send you photos of what happened to me after getting a hair cut. I did research, I interviewed her, she was a “curly hair specialist”. She had a 30 minute consultation with me. And she RUINED my hair. I had hardly any hair left on my head I cried for years. It’s been 2-3 years now since then and it still isn’t ok. My trust has been BROKEN lol.
That happened with me with my horrible haircut!!! I find instagram to be a great resource to see the stylists work
Your hair is so beautiful!!! I cut my own hair now can never find a salon that actually knows how to cut and style curly hair 🙃
Looks great and way better than the last 💖💖💖💖
thank you!
Lmao omg I remember all those cartoons!.. aww. Come on let’s get to it I know that we can do it!” Your so funny 😂
Ladies and gents if your in Miami Florida I highly recommend going to the curl whisperer salon
thank you, do you know how much do they charge, aprox?
I started cutting my own hair because I couldn’t find anyone who knew how to handle my hair. Then I fell on hard times and I couldn’t even afford a $10 haircut. I started cutting my own hair. I’ve made a few mistakes over the years but eventually I figured out what works for me. I don’t think I’ll ever go back to paying someone else to do it.
There are long hair salons that will just trim your hair. I have seen some people in the long hair community do videos about these. I just trim my hair myself.
I love that you do your thing tell the story and get to the point!!!I
xD thank you!
Ohh heck nooo that’s why I CUT MY OWN CURLY HAIR NOW !!! Lol 😂 but you’re hair looks great I love your length!!!! 💜💕💜💕💜💕💜💕💜
Shoutout to the Vancouver/ Portland peeps 🤪
My boyfriend has hair similar to yours and it’s super long! Im going to have him check her out!! Tysm
im 14 and my parents used to take me to someone who wasn’t necessarily specialized in curly hair, so i just learned to cut my own hair at home and i love it so much, i cut my hair dry and its way better than cutting it wet like most people do.
My stylist cut 17 inches off my hair about 3 weeks ago. I went in and asked for some layers and he absolutely butchered my hair. I have worn it tied up since!! My hair is 100% bone straight swell, so there is no excuse, he was just in a "Short hair" phase. I will never go back!!! I cried!!
it looks so good penny!!!
thank you!
You are why I let my hair grow .. why its not thrashed .. I think you are a light .. shine on beautiful girl xox
Next time I will DEFINITELY ask for credentials and look at reviews..I ain't having ot anymore with these incompetent hairdressers,I swear i feel like some of them do it on purpose..