Keychron Q2 Review - Your Next 65% Keyboard

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  • Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024
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  • @shinigummie
    @shinigummie 2 года назад +138

    I appreciate more keyboards supporting ISO layout as a finnish person. I just built a KBD67 lite R3 ISO with yellow gats as my first custom mech. Might build one of these as a gift for my friend!

    • @Deepwing
      @Deepwing 2 года назад +6

      damn lemme be your friend LOL

    • @supersazz
      @supersazz 2 года назад +9

      Suomi perkele!

    • @aquanos
      @aquanos 2 года назад +3

      Kana kyllä kelpais

    • @supersazz
      @supersazz 2 года назад +3

      @@aquanos Kannattaa käydä KFC:ssä jos asut pääkaupunkiseudulla 👍

    • @megatryn
      @megatryn 2 года назад

      Yes! ISO FTW!

  • @fedyna13
    @fedyna13 2 года назад +1

    Did I see KZ ZS10 Pro IEMs 👀!!! Looking forward to that review!
    Ps. Keychron boards are great bang for buck. Great video!

  • @TheSharpZzHD
    @TheSharpZzHD 2 года назад +1

    Any plans on looking at the "Nuphy Air 75"? It seems like a great wireless low-profile option, competing with the very popular Logitech G915 TKL for half the price.

  • @sorappoli5137
    @sorappoli5137 2 года назад

    I love the keycaps and the font this keyboard uses. Would have probably gotten this one if I had recently purchased a Varmilo MA87 (Peking Opera) keyboard.

  • @nadrile
    @nadrile 2 года назад

    My next 65%, 75% and 4x13 ortho will be the next ones. As soon as i have time to make the model for the laser cutter for the plates..

  • @keyserxx
    @keyserxx 2 года назад

    I was looking at this, then capsunlocked CU80, ended up with Iris and colemak. this sentence just took me 2 mins to type.

  • @Felix-ve9hs
    @Felix-ve9hs 2 года назад

    are there any good 100% Keyboards or should I just get a kaypad?

  • @tarfeef_4268
    @tarfeef_4268 2 года назад +1

    7:00 what? A reviewer acknowledging the reality of shipping costs?!?! Ridiculous!!!
    (ty for doing so tho, so many ignore this very relevant cost)

  • @igor.lacerda
    @igor.lacerda 2 года назад +49

    Great, Ali. I loved that they made it 65%, can't wait to get one and do some A/B with my recent build KBD67 Lite R3! 🙌

  • @space.cowboy.
    @space.cowboy. 2 года назад +143

    It's kinda insane to think that during the production of this video, the Q2 which is an absolute banger for the price has already been topped by the much awaited zoom65. Makes me excited for further manufacturers entering into the commercial space making the hobby much more mainstream which will obviously do good for the community

    • @mo.on.
      @mo.on. 2 года назад +4

      🤯zoom65 is insane🤯

    • @captaingary5650
      @captaingary5650 2 года назад +8

      I think the mod005 is better than the q2. Zoom65 is an absolute steal

    • @wizardryyyy
      @wizardryyyy 2 года назад +8

      as someone who prefers the look of the Q2 and would prefer not have to build the entire kb, I opted for the Q2. I also am not a fan of the thinner pcb of the zoom65.

    • @wcg66
      @wcg66 2 года назад +6

      @@captaingary5650 the advantage of the Akko is availability and cheap shipping. Keychron Q2 was $30 shipping, Mod007 I got had $8 shipping. Heck, even my KBD67 Lite was $128 with shipping. Akko stuff is a good deal.

    • @Agent_Alpha
      @Agent_Alpha 2 года назад +2

      Too bad we will have to wait for a while to have the Zoom65 in stock. Buying through raffle is kinda rough

  • @jamesgarrad2101
    @jamesgarrad2101 2 года назад +14

    Recently spent 3 hours lubing, bandage modding and foam modding my new Keychron K6 and it sounds glorious. Really not a fan of them stock Keychron Q2 keycaps, the K6's are much nicer imo

    • @mystichavin5330
      @mystichavin5330 2 года назад

      aesthetically maybe. but the material used for the q2 keycaps is pbt and will basically never shine in its lifetime vs the abs on the k6 which gets oily and shiny after a few months. so unless you really like shiny keycaps, q2 is the way to go

    • @jamesgarrad2101
      @jamesgarrad2101 2 года назад

      @@mystichavin5330 PBT does shine, but it takes much longer - granted. Still not enough to convince me this is a buy for me I'm afraid. Each to their own 🤷‍♂

  • @vincelongman3264
    @vincelongman3264 2 года назад +10

    IMO the Keychron Q2 & Q1 v2 is the easiest to recommend for beginners since they are great out of the box (FYI, avoid Q1 v1 because of keycap clearance and sound/ping issues). I went with the GMMK Pro as I prefer its aesthetics and the price was also significantly lower since Keychron don't sell locally in my country. Modded the GMMK Pro to my liking, e.g. PC plate with flex cuts, D65 gaskets, PE foam mod, Durock v2 stabs, ...

    • @rembaron1318
      @rembaron1318 Год назад

      The Keychron q2 is at the Moment arount 50€ Less expansive in comparison to the thr gmmk pro in my country

  • @LastSecBloomer
    @LastSecBloomer 2 года назад +1

    Just to mention, while Keychron is good value, there have been complaints on their quality control. So, investigate and do some research befre buying...

  • @wcg66
    @wcg66 2 года назад +7

    I think honourable mention is due to the Akko Mod 005 (65%) and the 007 (75%). Excellent aluminum body, includes metal and FR4 plate and excellent build quality. The Mod 005 is $129 and shipping is way less than from Keychron.

  • @atlasa4536
    @atlasa4536 2 года назад +2

    The Wooting 60HE is my next keyboard.

  • @jodgey4
    @jodgey4 2 года назад +1

    Dang daddy that intro funk got me goin whew

  • @oghomelesskid
    @oghomelesskid 2 года назад +10

    This may come across weird but thank you for continuing to be the face of this channel.
    Alotta my favorite ppl are adding questionable talent or leaving the tech space altogether. Thanks for your insights and awesome work!!

  • @dylanguerrero8053
    @dylanguerrero8053 2 года назад +2

    I swear your videos are an insta watch as soon as i see them on my feed Ali.

  • @Deutschehordenelite
    @Deutschehordenelite 2 года назад +2

    If Corsair made a tkl with low profile switches (and wasn't so f'in expensive), I would have bought it.
    If Keychron had their tkl with low profile switches in stock, I would have bought it.
    Since I find the logitech tkl overpriced, I didn't buy it.
    I now bought a random tkl Kaliah with red low profile.
    Prices are ridiculous.

    • @mrfurion
      @mrfurion 2 года назад

      Keychron K1 SE was in stock a few days ago, TKL with low profile optical switches.

  • @ThockyDocKey
    @ThockyDocKey 2 года назад +2

    The q2 is indeed an awesome board. Just prefer the form of the q1 more :) Good content :)

  • @HangryReviews
    @HangryReviews 2 года назад +1

    Please test latency of wireless (bluetooth) keyboards just like you do with mice. As they are probably unusable for gaming.

  • @abmeight08
    @abmeight08 2 года назад +3

    I like what Keychron did with the Q2 but I still prefer the Tofu over Q2. The customization is basically endless. You can play around with different cases, plate, and different mods out there (o-ring mod especially).

  • @kenshiku
    @kenshiku 2 года назад +2

    For that price... yikes, i'd rather spend half on a keyboard of the same quality, like the Royal Kludge, and use some more money to customize it with better switches and mods.

  • @Violet4K
    @Violet4K 2 года назад +2

    I thought about buying this, but ended up going with the Parallel Portal instead. May pick one up eventually.

  • @BenyaminLorit
    @BenyaminLorit 2 года назад +4

    Man, if only I could live without dedicated function keys. 😑 This keyboard looks sick.

    • @Caution40404
      @Caution40404 2 года назад +6

      Function Keys master race.

    • @DeprivedJuice
      @DeprivedJuice 2 года назад +10

      The Q1 sounds like it might be the board for you. They recently revamped it with the release of the v2 for the knob so a lot of the issues the board had with case ping on release are solved. It sounds pretty good stock. Am running one rn. Highly recommend if it restocks
      Keychron is also going to release a TKL within the year if 75% form factor is too small for you. Should be pretty dope. They've been great at listening to feedback about their boards and making improvements.

    • @BenyaminLorit
      @BenyaminLorit 2 года назад

      @@DeprivedJuice will look into the Q1. Thanks. Takes a while for Keychron products to get to my country. Right now, I'm still using the K1 v4, but I'll be keeping an ear on the ground for whatever they have in store this year for sure for when I get the time and money to finally build my own. 🤞🏽

    • @PhilippinesLife101
      @PhilippinesLife101 2 года назад +1

      I just bought the GMMK pro 75% you should take a look at that one as well.

  • @RoccondilRinon
    @RoccondilRinon 2 года назад +9

    I’m presently running the original 75% Q1 and definitely like it. Brass plate + box jade switches + SA profile caps mean it is LOUD.

    • @JaWs_BH
      @JaWs_BH 2 года назад

      BOX JADES FOR THE WIN

  • @BeesOnAimlab
    @BeesOnAimlab 2 года назад +1

    Best thumbnails

  • @PhilippinesLife101
    @PhilippinesLife101 2 года назад +2

    I just bought the GMMK Pro 75% because I want the dedicated function keys. Would like to hear your thoughts on it.

    • @Hyper1555
      @Hyper1555 2 года назад

      I have a modded gmmk pro (removed all screws/stand offs, swaped thicker gaskets, fr4 plate, soon stupid fish foam with aquakings v2 50gr, durock v2 holee modded and lubed with krytox and).
      I think the new q2 is like 75% of my modded gmmk pro, but the stock gmmk pro is worse than the q2. It is also more expensive, though I like the look and rgb of the gmmk pro more. And you also have function Keys for certain games and programs.
      The gmmk pro is really nice, but more expensive and needs more modded to sound and feel good unlike the q2.

    • @PhilippinesLife101
      @PhilippinesLife101 2 года назад

      @@Hyper1555 Nice bro what about the stabilizers do need to get different ones?

    • @Hyper1555
      @Hyper1555 2 года назад

      @@PhilippinesLife101 well you need to delube and relube the goats, so yes you need new ones. They are better lubed now though, but I think not good enough.

    • @the__man
      @the__man 2 года назад

      modded GMMK pro is great but be prepared to: struggle with over tightened factory screws, completely replace and mod new stabs, possibly file/sand the switch plate, add gaskets. It’s great in final form, but takes some work and frustration to get there.

  • @windows1plays478
    @windows1plays478 2 года назад +1

    Review the ViewSonic 144hz monitor

  • @D-One
    @D-One 2 года назад

    I will never understand why they always put the encoder on the right side... I mean thats where your mouse hand is, if your left hand is always already in the keyboard put it on that side PLEASEEEE.

  • @AliYassinToma
    @AliYassinToma 2 года назад +1

    Tenkeyless is the smallest i would buy

  • @carpentb17
    @carpentb17 2 года назад +1

    I would have gotten the q2 but glorious was already available with what I needed

  • @mrCetus
    @mrCetus 2 года назад +1

    I'm have been using a K8 (80%). Works great. Generally Keychron kb is a recommend for those who wants a mech kb but not going through the hassle of customizing/ assembling one.

  • @Cermagine
    @Cermagine 2 года назад +10

    Really love the height of the 65% layout but it's super hard for me to do without the function row these days. Need more boards with macro pads to the left.

    • @jimmyf7721
      @jimmyf7721 2 года назад +1

      Just use a 75% if you want function keys

    • @Cermagine
      @Cermagine 2 года назад +1

      @@jimmyf7721 using a few 75% boards now for that reason, still would like something a little shorter 🤔

    • @wallbasher12
      @wallbasher12 2 года назад +2

      As someone who never uses it, I've remapped my Caps Lock to the Function key and it's been a total game-changer -- it allows me to have a second function layer over the numerics to act as my function row
      I don't miss the Caps Lock at all now, and I find it so much more comfortable that even on keyboards with function rows, I find myself still remapping CapsLock

    • @noshow
      @noshow 2 года назад

      They have a q1 that has the f-row.

    • @selentatsukienjoyer
      @selentatsukienjoyer 2 года назад

      @@Cermagine see hex4b

  • @nayeemrahman
    @nayeemrahman 2 года назад +1

    Does it have printscreen button?

  • @joshuawilliams8319
    @joshuawilliams8319 2 года назад +1

    Great review. I patiently awaiting the K8 Pro. This is an interesting one I may pick it up as well.

  • @darrannorman6185
    @darrannorman6185 2 года назад +1

    “Weird expensive part of the internet” - like GPUs?

  • @robertpearson8546
    @robertpearson8546 2 года назад

    I made the mistake of buying a Keychron K7. What I received was NOT wireless (no dongle included) and, when connected by USB cable, many keys did not work. Keychron ignored all my requests for an RMA and a refund.
    Before buying anything from Keychron, think! Do you want to give your money to a company that treats its customers this way?

  • @ThomasBaxter
    @ThomasBaxter 2 года назад

    Just going to flag that the sound comparisons here are not exactly apples to apples. The profile of the keycaps on a board have a lot to do with the sound profile of any given keyboard. Comparing Cherry Profile to, what seems to be SA or MT3, is not exactly fair. SA/MT3 are much more high profile, which does cause a difference overall.
    Not intending to impugn the honesty of this review, at all, just worth keeping in mind.

  • @CDubbsW0rld
    @CDubbsW0rld 2 года назад +1

    Keychron has been dropping heat. I got the Q1 (modded so it sounds alot better) I may end up ordering a Q2 at some point when I get bored of my KBD67 Lite.

  • @brocky
    @brocky 2 года назад

    I'm just not sold. Has a pingy sound even with the ink blacks from what I hear on this video. I went with the Keydous NJ68 and used that $50 I saved on Drop MT3's and extra foam.

  • @albertusadityap
    @albertusadityap 2 года назад

    Hai guys I considering buying a brass plate for Keychron Q2. How many different weight (gram) Stock plates vs brass plates (instead of all other components all same)?

  • @executeOrder69
    @executeOrder69 2 года назад

    I get why there are Keyboards without the numblock. But why would sb pay 160$ for a keyboard without function keys and who in his right mind would pay any money for a keyboard without home and del ?!???

  • @dsinghr
    @dsinghr 2 года назад

    Best keyboard in the universe is Varmilo VA87 with Sakura EC switches. Everything else places in comparison

  • @chaosdefinesorder
    @chaosdefinesorder 2 года назад

    my wrists hurt just looking at that keyboard height and angle! Would love a keyboard like this with low profile switches and without the wedge...

  • @aquacipher
    @aquacipher 2 года назад +1

    Would like to know if different stabilizers will have any tolerance issues. I really do like this board!!

  • @luider8795
    @luider8795 2 года назад

    why dont manufacturs realize when your buying small keyboards, you want it to be small! Not some metal protruding from all size

  • @holgermilthers425
    @holgermilthers425 2 года назад

    call me when you find a costum keyboard case that supports æøå :/ dont remember what its called iso ansi or whatever

  • @joekim3757
    @joekim3757 2 года назад

    STOP MAKING ME WANT TO SWITCH TO 65%!!!
    I'M PERFECTLY HAPPY WITH TKL!!! UGHHHH

  • @elijah3789
    @elijah3789 2 года назад

    Don’t know anything about keyboards but I assume this would also be very good for gaming?😅

  • @hilfiger8629
    @hilfiger8629 2 года назад

    I want an all black mechanical keyboard probably 65% but dont want to break the bank, any suggestions?

  • @sirBumpyCase
    @sirBumpyCase 2 года назад

    that flex looks about on par with my plastic membrane keyboard, except it's intentional.

  • @-Ambos-
    @-Ambos- 2 года назад

    hm, the g303 shroud in the backgroun and not the starlight... interesting. Also new in ears? Interesting too

  • @irmmed6621
    @irmmed6621 9 месяцев назад

    uncomfortable keyboard especially backspace key - this is reality;)

  • @crodude743
    @crodude743 2 года назад

    Isn't the k12 60% their smallest keyboard? Is the quality lower then here?

  • @SirZanZa
    @SirZanZa 2 года назад

    your Q2 sounds awful like proper god awful, i built mine from barebones and it sounds so good compared

  • @rohittkrr
    @rohittkrr Год назад

    I like the sound of your tofu better, not sure if I find the metallic sound of q2 very pleasing

  • @MythicalCretures
    @MythicalCretures 2 года назад

    most of keychron keyboards are wierless, do you think they will come out with a wierless Q2?

  • @elfido_3598
    @elfido_3598 2 года назад

    no point in comparing this to your personal board, probably better off reviewing the board by itself

  • @PotLid
    @PotLid 2 года назад

    The keycap profile is kinda meh, but other than that, it looks really good package.

  • @dieegobp5384
    @dieegobp5384 2 года назад +1

    The quality of this channel >>>>>

  • @sizarrazis
    @sizarrazis 2 года назад

    model name of your shotgun mic please ?
    sennheiser MKE 600?

  • @ThockyDocKey
    @ThockyDocKey 2 года назад +1

    awesome board, even the stock form when modded goes a long way! Really enjoyed my Q2 experience

  • @rustyshakkleford
    @rustyshakkleford 2 года назад

    I hate this, but only because it wasn't a thing when I bought my Keychron K2 v2.

  • @BoxingFan699
    @BoxingFan699 2 года назад +1

    Is it hotswappable

  • @krazypeople4
    @krazypeople4 2 года назад

    Oof 160, thats more expensive than a custom tofu build.

  • @MrZerosixZeroone
    @MrZerosixZeroone 2 года назад

    Both keyboards sound awful 😢 also they are impossible to use without palm rest.

  • @jduvel
    @jduvel 2 года назад +1

    Wish they did an ISO full kit on this.

  • @dioxyde0
    @dioxyde0 2 года назад

    can i still use function keys by pressing windows key and number keys like on a laptop?

  • @isoloist9580
    @isoloist9580 2 года назад

    No, won't be my next one, not any of these sink-down keyboards, so hard to clean and the look is so outdated

  • @dragos-lucian
    @dragos-lucian 2 года назад

    Therapist: So what weird things tingle your nuts?
    Me: 3:45

  • @Richbroth
    @Richbroth 2 года назад

    does the pre built that comes from kbdfans have the foam pre installed?

  • @VideoStalker00
    @VideoStalker00 2 года назад +1

    I wasn't a fan of the stock caps so I replaced them but for the price the keyboard is great and the sound isn't bad. It allows for further modifications and stuff but outta dah box, this is a great keep.

  • @蛇王-y9b
    @蛇王-y9b 2 года назад

    please do a review which is the best membrane keyboard in 2022.

  • @stin11111
    @stin11111 2 года назад

    Hey~ is that a pair ZS10 Pro @2:07? How do you like them?

  • @chiromedic1127
    @chiromedic1127 2 года назад

    Not me watching this after just ordering the Ducky one 3

  • @ghostpimp
    @ghostpimp 2 года назад

    Please do a review on the KZ S10 Pros I see you have them on your desks on one of the shots !

  • @Antwon22
    @Antwon22 2 года назад +1

    Was gonna immediately buy it since I have a 1.5 year old k2 that's survived water damage and I love the look and sound of the board with reds, then I realized they don't have reds in black and they're completely out of knob boards, plus the k2 has an great bluetooth connection but the q2 doesn't have Bluetooth and that's a must for me personally.

  • @MrLincoln87
    @MrLincoln87 2 года назад

    Been looking into the K6 alu after watching this.. what you think?
    Q2 looks to be a $300ish keyboard (can't seem to find it online in Aus? so going by Q1 pricing)
    Personally hate the blue-ish colours (or the other options too) on the Q2
    Does the double gasket design really make all the difference, worth the cost difference?
    Have also been looking at other $150ish keyboards such as the HyperX Origins 65, Coolermaster SK622 (not sold on the slim design) or the CM CK721, along with the DuckyOne 2 SF (65%) - which from memory you gave the 60% version of the Ducky a good review.
    Also looking at the Asus Falchion ... but not willing to part with $300 if it ain't bloody fantastic, looks great tho ... but I'd rather the Q2 and byo key caps
    Have seen that the Razer BlackWidow V3 mini, is good.. just too expensive for what it is.
    Kinda prefer that more compact design of the K6 and the Falchion, that still retain the arrow keys, and the Q2 key caps leave something to be desired for me personally.
    Have a corsair k70 with browns .... it ain't bad, its just 7 years old and I know there's better, and want something compact that still retains the arrow keys.
    *And just don't have the time/effort/cbf to build my own keyboard.

  • @ing038
    @ing038 2 года назад

    I got it today but disappointed keycap poor quality....

  • @jlai036
    @jlai036 2 года назад

    The price is just plain daylight robbery.

  • @presence5834
    @presence5834 2 года назад

    Just wondering can you make a buying guide for Aussies now

  • @Claud1995
    @Claud1995 2 года назад +1

    I want a 100% with this quality :(

  • @abdarrahmane01
    @abdarrahmane01 2 года назад

    i saw a kz IEMS can you do a review of them plz

  • @Santos-eo5sl
    @Santos-eo5sl 2 года назад

    Being subscribed to you is becoming expensive- lol

  • @Nick.L.
    @Nick.L. 2 года назад

    Is there any chance you would be reviewing the Razer Basilisk v3, as I think it's a really good mouse with the features but I'm still hesitant to buy one.
    Or if anyone does own it, maybe they can give me a quick pros and cons/comparison to a different product in regards to it's performance.
    Thank you very much for the great content!

  • @Harrison.DuRant
    @Harrison.DuRant 2 года назад

    Does Optimum Tech have a discord or group somewhere? I'm planning on getting a 40 series GPU if I can find one when they come out and would like to ask others for their thoughts/advice when I do.

  • @gucky4717
    @gucky4717 2 года назад

    What i want is a Keyboard without Num-Block, but with Play/Pause-Key, Mute-Key and a Volumeknob...Buildquality should be like OTs Tofu.
    Currently i use the older K70 Lux. It's also easy to clean, since the Switches are not edged.

  • @hanhao1208
    @hanhao1208 2 года назад

    i'd go with mw65 lite
    80$ (tax+shipping included)
    gasket mount
    clear matt acrylic case
    pc plate (for deep sound)
    poron case foam
    poron pcb foam
    67keys+volume changer
    compatible with VIA
    it's like kbd67 lite but generally cheaper and better

  • @Akash.Chopra
    @Akash.Chopra 2 года назад

    What's the moral of this story? More lube is always better 😉

  • @mado732
    @mado732 2 года назад

    Hello. Im planning on building the same color keyboard as your tofu. May i ask what specific color/colorway is your keycaps anf keyboard? Is this different from your first tofu build?

  • @JWSpradlin
    @JWSpradlin 2 года назад

    Ali, do you have any tips/tutorials, or links to resources on how to clean a non-hotswappable mechanical keyboard? My Corsair Strafe RGB is having some issues, and I’d like to disassemble the switches and do a deep clean if possible.

  • @mahzadhc
    @mahzadhc 2 года назад

    so hey uh- wanna give that away to a RANDOM viewer-

  • @theorganizationXII
    @theorganizationXII 2 года назад

    I would love it. It's so sad that there is not ITA layoult :(

  • @arturbecker9936
    @arturbecker9936 2 года назад

    Remember when Ali disliked a product so much he said "I will NOT leave a link down below, thanks for watching"... just something I think about from time to time

  • @vozoa225
    @vozoa225 2 года назад

    how many Q2's reviews will we get in January?

  • @kazaroth
    @kazaroth 2 года назад

    I really with someone would make these lovely keyboards in proper wrist friendly low profile configurations. Most of the low profile designs out there are pretty compromised and/or ugly. These massively tall keyboards need a wrist rest (and even higher seating, strictly) and I’m just not into that…

  • @WitherSweat
    @WitherSweat 2 года назад

    Ok, i have a big question for u, do u know a hot swappable rgb keyboard with the f-keys, none of the stuff on the right that can be modified with ICUE?

  • @kuyt20
    @kuyt20 2 года назад

    Regarding stock stabilizers, I have yet to see any keeb under the $200 price range that come with great sounding stabs out of the box. So its understandable that the Q1's are not 100% satisfactory for some. Hell, my plate-mounted modded durock stabs sound way better than that.

  • @koblongata
    @koblongata 2 года назад

    Really looking for a 65% mechanical keyboard with fn+"up, down, left, right" mapped to "pgup, pgdn, home, end", wonder if there is any.