I think it would be fair to match the sample rates between the sessions as well. The M1 runs at 48kHz while the M4 runs at 44.1kHz-which could be considered a slight advantage. Nice comparison video though. Keep up the good work ;)
Thanks for the video and message. By the way regarding the speaker pushed in dome. Work great some power tape or something sticky to pull that out. As well warming it up with a hairdryer is working all the time.
Yeah, more than 50 is a bit much! unless you're making a soundtrack and using an entire orchestra or something 😉 I actually think limiting the amount of tracks used is a helpful creative constraint, and it makes for a much cleaner session
Very nice videos, and above all your final speech is perfect, I'm of the same philosophy as you brother. Create with what you have, and squeeze the most out of it. Only in this way do you bring out everything you have inside.
ty bro! 100%. We gotta make the most of the resources we have, and I believe having limitations actually fuels creativity, so it can be a blessing to have constraints. Cheers mate 👊
It's a tough thing to escape! What helps me is remembering that the feeling of upgrading when it's actually necessary feels SO GOOD. Getting the maximum usage from a product is the best. Like wearing shoes until they fall apart!
Interesting - i think what this showed, as you say, is for most peoples 'real world' usage, M1 is a perfectly useable machine. Only when pushing into multiple hundred tracks the M4 becomes vital but I doubt folk who are producing those track counts would be buying the base spec mac mini anyway. Really Like your summary about gear being just tools and creativity is key....sometimes limitations can stimulate creativity - the memory limit in old samplers were testament to that.
I'm still running iMac 5k with 4790K and 32GB of memory. I can't decide whether to get the Mac Mini with M4 Pro and 64GB of memory or go with equally priced PC (close to 3k€). My iMac has been crashing a lot and I feel like that would continue in the Mac Mini as well since Apple did nothing to fix the problems with samba shares and USB disks. Without those it's stable, but semi-useless. An extreme example: in PhasePlant I have patches that the 4790K can play one note at a time, anything more and the CPU goes over 100%. If the new Mac would be three times as fast, that's still only three notes. Getting a 16-32 core PC is still an option, especially with way cheaper SSD's and memory. I'd skip the NVIDIA or AMD graphics card altogether as I suppose Ableton Live does not use it anyway and I have another computer for playing games.
I'd say go for whichever ecosystem you prefer! The M4 Macs seem promising with they longevity, but having a PC that you can actually upgrade is quite nice
@@lilofadidas7982 Good point. He should be comparing to 16GB to make it apples to apples but most likely he is comparing to 8GB which makes the whole benchmark worthless.
Thank you! Every other RUclips channel seems to only compare the M4 Pro model instead of the base M4. Great job!
ty bro! Base M4 all day ✌
lovely message at the end!
ty mate 💛
I think it would be fair to match the sample rates between the sessions as well. The M1 runs at 48kHz while the M4 runs at 44.1kHz-which could be considered a slight advantage. Nice comparison video though. Keep up the good work ;)
Ah, I forgot to check that! Yeah, def would've been better to have the sample rates be the same.
Thanks for the video and message. By the way regarding the speaker pushed in dome. Work great some power tape or something sticky to pull that out. As well warming it up with a hairdryer is working all the time.
Thank you for such a positive and optimistic (and non-materialistic) perspective! Legendary!
I've never used more than 50 tracks, so I think I'll be future proof with the m4
Yeah, more than 50 is a bit much! unless you're making a soundtrack and using an entire orchestra or something 😉 I actually think limiting the amount of tracks used is a helpful creative constraint, and it makes for a much cleaner session
how does latency compare? nice video thanks!
Very nice videos, and above all your final speech is perfect, I'm of the same philosophy as you brother. Create with what you have, and squeeze the most out of it. Only in this way do you bring out everything you have inside.
ty bro! 100%. We gotta make the most of the resources we have, and I believe having limitations actually fuels creativity, so it can be a blessing to have constraints. Cheers mate 👊
Appreciated 🙌
love your philosophy of tools :3 help me escape the upgradeism
It's a tough thing to escape! What helps me is remembering that the feeling of upgrading when it's actually necessary feels SO GOOD. Getting the maximum usage from a product is the best. Like wearing shoes until they fall apart!
Amen! preach!
Sweet... Curious about the same test with m4 vs m4pro
Same!
Interesting - i think what this showed, as you say, is for most peoples 'real world' usage, M1 is a perfectly useable machine. Only when pushing into multiple hundred tracks the M4 becomes vital but I doubt folk who are producing those track counts would be buying the base spec mac mini anyway. Really Like your summary about gear being just tools and creativity is key....sometimes limitations can stimulate creativity - the memory limit in old samplers were testament to that.
Cool test. I should try this on my m4 pro
Nice comparison.
ty mate!
Good video, you may should of changed the buffer when you duplicated the tracks
Yeah this would be great to see, maybe add a few third party plugins too as the effects etc all look to be stock
great video
ty mate!
use what you got is great wisdom. Sometimes, and probably most of the times less is more.
What would the result be if u set it to 32 sample ?
Did you shoot in Log and you forgot to edit?
Threw a LUT on and called it good!
I'm still running iMac 5k with 4790K and 32GB of memory. I can't decide whether to get the Mac Mini with M4 Pro and 64GB of memory or go with equally priced PC (close to 3k€). My iMac has been crashing a lot and I feel like that would continue in the Mac Mini as well since Apple did nothing to fix the problems with samba shares and USB disks. Without those it's stable, but semi-useless.
An extreme example: in PhasePlant I have patches that the 4790K can play one note at a time, anything more and the CPU goes over 100%. If the new Mac would be three times as fast, that's still only three notes. Getting a 16-32 core PC is still an option, especially with way cheaper SSD's and memory. I'd skip the NVIDIA or AMD graphics card altogether as I suppose Ableton Live does not use it anyway and I have another computer for playing games.
I'd say go for whichever ecosystem you prefer! The M4 Macs seem promising with they longevity, but having a PC that you can actually upgrade is quite nice
Are both using same kind of audio interface too?
Yeah, both running through a Focusrite 2i2 2nd gen
You didn’t say how much ram this m1 ?
He said $600. So that means 16GB RAM and 256GB SSD
$600 the m4 but the m1 how many ram
@@lilofadidas7982 Good point. He should be comparing to 16GB to make it apples to apples but most likely he is comparing to 8GB which makes the whole benchmark worthless.
What’s the RAM on each Mac?
Both are base spec for the year they were released, 8GB on M1 and 16GB on M4
Meanwhile, my 13th gen i7 with 64gb RAM stutters with 8 virtual instruments open at 1024 buffer
dang fr?
@ well, there's a chance that it's damaged due to their bad firmware, but that's also what I was running my previous computer at
@@aarongrubbmusic I guess it shows the power of the M4!
??? i7 10700, 32 GB RAM and M2SSD, run like hell!
FL studio test🙏🏼
not fair. audio rate is bigger on the M1
you had the M-1 at 48K the M-4 at 44K so this test is totally invalid!