Has The Tudor Black Bay Been Beaten?! | Tudor Black Bay vs Oris Aquis Date Calibre 400
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For many years now, the king of sub £3,000 diving watches has always been the Tudor Black Bay. Others have come close, but the unavoidable desirability, fantastic execution of a clean aesthetic and its impressive quality has meant that Tudor has dominated for years.
But now a darling of the diving watch world has recently received quite the upgrade, challenging the reigning king in a huge way.
Oris Aquis Diver - why now?
So why have we waited until now to put Oris Aquis against the Tudor Black Bay? Well the most obvious reason is the increase in price tag for the Aquis as it's now £2,700 vs the Black Bay 41 which is £2,840. This reflects a £1,100 price increase on the previous Aquis models. The reason? The Oris is now powered by the house Calibre 400 movement which boasts some seriously impressive stats.
To be honest this isn’t the first time we’ve thought of making the Aquis vs Black Bay comparison. However previously with such core differences as price point and the movements used, the outcome was always going to be rooted in financial logic. But now things are different. Oris is now commanding Tudor levels of dosh which begs the question:
Has the underdog just become the top dog?
The defending champion - tudor
Let's start with the one many of us are aware of and know its strengths, the Tudor Black Bay. This release from Tudor marked a huge turning point for the brand as it offered the desirable looks previously only found with vintage diving watch, in an obtainable and presentable modern package. Dimensions are universally appealing at 41mm wide, 14.8mm thick and a lug width of 22mm.
This version of the Black Bay comes with the MT 56 02 COSC movement which provides 70 hours of power reserve, vibrating at 28,800 vph with a silicone balance spring. A welcomed as significant movement upgrade when compared to other standard Swiss options. Tudor was first created to be the sister brand to Rolex and even today releases from each manufacturer cross pollinate. It’s impossible to put a value on this connection Tudor has, but that shared DNA is huge for Tudor and arguably is one of the reasons why it holds the number 1 spot.
So what are some of the positives and negatives on the Tudor Black Bay 41?
Well, one aspect that is consistent throughout all of the Black Bay range is balance, in every sense of the word. From styling, to price point, brand awareness and quality you really do get a little bit of everything here.
The details and construction on this watch are fantastic. No clumsy date windows, no unnecessary modernisation, just exactly what people are looking for with no compromise. The movement is tough and continues to tick for over double a standard automatic movement. The bezel remains one of the easiest and most enjoyable to use.
The standard 22mm lugs on this watch also mean you have a huge amount of options when it comes to changing the look up with a new strap. Be sure to head over to the site to see some strap suggestions for the Black Bay.
Possibly Tudor’s biggest positive is it’s connection to Rolex. That assumed value it brings means it's incredibly hard not to default to picking up a Black Bay.
But the watch is not without its faults though. Specifically the 14.8mm thickness comes to mind as it most certainly doesn't go unnoticed on the wrist. If we’re being totally honest as well, you could make a case for the dial of the watch being a little plain and safe.
The amount of praise it has received over the years has resulted in them flooding the market. Chances are if you’re catching the tube in London, you wont be more than a few metres away from another Black Bay owner.
Yes, the Tudor Black Bay with its desirably history, fantastic execution and solid movement makes it a deserving champion. Three years later, it is still clear as day as to why this is the top pick for sub £3,000 diving watches. 
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I understand you've compared the Aquis with the larger Black Bay as they are similar in size but I think it should have been against the BB58 and that would win hands down. The value retention, link to Rolex, the size, movement and styling just make the BB58 a clear stand out winner. The Aquis's appeal is little more limited and too blingy for some whereas the BB58 can be worn in a lot more environments. I think Oris still has some way to go before it can steal Tudors crown but it will do so in small steps and the new 400 calibre is just one small step.
Thanks for your take Liam!
good points but I don't actually think Oris takes tudor's crown so much as it just replaces tudor as tudor continues to move up market little by little.
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No contest. Oris has better movement & it's own original style, & from an independent company. The only thing that the Tudor has in its favour is value retention.
I have the SW200 Aquis, the integrated bracelet is superb!
Cheers 👍🏻
Agree!
Thanks for checking out our comparison video!
Yes, I agree having owned both. The BB never quite worked for me, I found it sterile and the bracelet with the rivets was horrible. The Oris bracelets and the lugs, though initially strange to the unfamiliar eye, are so comfortable they disappear and the watch is impeccable.. My 40mm Oris has been to 35m depth diving in the Pacific, Med and South Atlantic as well up as up more than few seriously rugged mountains including mt Blanc twice. Going great, never misses a beat. No regrets at all moving on the BB58
Dont mind me, i'm just watching this before i buy a seiko i can afford
Are you even a watch collector if you don't have at-least 5 Seikos? :D
@@watchgecko surely, you mean 5 Seiko 5s
Nothing wrong with that bruv.
Seiko is the better watch even when ignoring price..
@@aloysius872 You pays ya money and you takes your pick. Especially in these days when you have loads of morons from Instagram who are not watch people at all and who just artificially inflate the prices. If I paid three or four times the retail price for a Rolex Oyster Perpetual (for example) I'd be physically sick everytime I looked at my wrist and saw it on there. But that's the kind of price gouging these people have encouraged by pandering to the will of greedy flippers.
If I was shopping with someone else's money then I'd get the Oris but with my own it'd be the Tudor. I mentally just can't adjust to that price rise of the aquis over its predecessor when externally it's identical. If I'm paying nearly 3k for a watch I want the brand prestige of the Tudor. Respect anyone who takes the Oris though.
Thats a great perspective to be fair!
How would you think about that when the BB had the ETA2824 inside? Not much have been done to the BB other then sizing from 41 to 39.
@@Sirkelsag666 the BB58 has in house movement now. All the new models from the BB line ( apart from the 36 and below) no longer use ETA
@@vunguyenchannel but hasn't Oris now also moved to in house movements?
Tudor has no brand prestige except being sold next door to Rolex
I’m always amazed at how reviewers and commentators wax on about the history and heritage of Tudor and Rolex, with the latter established in 1905 and Tudor in the 1920’s. But Oris was founded in 1904 so arguably has equal to if not better history and heritage than R&T. Worth bearing in mind.
Great and fair review. That Aquis 400 is super intriguing and beautiful!
Thanks for taking the time to check out this comparison :D
I've owned the Aquis, 43 mm grey version on bracelet with SW-200 movement. I currently own a Tudor BB 41 mm black. Allthough the Tudor movement is way superior I have to say the build quality and overall "stamina" over the years is better. My Aquis is 8 years old with almost everyday wear and you can hardly see any marks or fade of colour.
I like the Tudor better because of performance and looks but the Aquis is far better build IMO.
Oris over Tudor for me. In my opinion the Oris is a more interesting watch. The Tudor seems a little redundant to me. Of course great movement and great build but still. "Everyone" has one and that puts me off quite a bit. After I bought myself a Breitling Avenger I really have gotten my eyes open to a little bigger and "blingyer" watches. I also tried on a Tudor BB 41 mm, didn't like the fit on my wrist, it felt very top heavy and the proportions just seemed a bit off. Great watch no doubt, just not for me.
"With the April sale of Breitling to CVC Capital Partners, and with most big Swiss watch brands currently owned by larger luxury groups, the population of truly independent Swiss watch brands is near non-existent. Yet Oris has been able to retain its independent, family-run status throughout almost all of its entire 113-year history of making mechanical tool watches."
Oris rich history and loyalty to its quality before quantity is a big plus for me, from a philosophical perspective it should be one of the most respected and loved watch brand out there, especially for a real watch enthusiast. I get more impressed seeing people wearing Oris then a Tudor or a Rolex. A Oris feels like more culture. But its just in my opinion,
thank you for sharing.
I respect oris and their new movement but if I was picking one of the two with my own money I'd have to go with the tudor. And I did lol, just dropped $3k on a BB this past weekend. Most I've ever spent on a watch, and not a small chunk of change but I'm loving it so far. Say what you want but brand heritage and history count for something. Couldn't bring myself to spend $3k on an oris but that's just me
I think the Oris call 400 outshines the Tudor on every level. Oris for me
Why do i see u on every Oris video? Lol... Oris employee spotted!
@@aloysius872 LOL Just a fan of nice watches. PS Hope this finds you well where ever you may be
I like the Oris. It almost looks as nice as my Casio Duro.
xD :D
Everyone needs a Casio in their collection :D
Almost as nice ad my Timex Explorer
Both are fantastic watches. The Tudor BB wins this contest, but if I were to purchase a watch today it would be the last years Aquis with the Sellita movement for 2 reasons. 1 serviceability 2 price.
I wouldn't because of the crappy power reserve. Lots of people put their watches down for the weekend.
Thanks for checking out our comparison video!
I love my Oris Artix GT Skeleton. So Oris gets my vote. 👍🏽
We would love hands on time with a Oris Artix GT Skeleton!
Oris 400 41.5 is an instant classic , 10 years warranty. 5 days movement Oris is refreshing fresh new intriguing its own his own class Tudor is boring 85% people don't know what is Tudor . You stand out w 41.5 aquis, not to shinny not to big..., intriguing 🤔 is my word
People know Tudor as a budget Rolex. Even looks vaguely like a Submariner.
This exact Oris Aquis, but in a smaller (preferably between 37 and 39mm) and thinner case (a maximum of about 12mm)...I'd get weak knees...
Oh yeah, and maybe a on-the-fly microadjusment system in the clasp, that would be an awesome watch!
Probably just a dream for now since I doubt Oris can fit their Calibre 400 inside such a case, but who know's what the future holds...
Both really decent watches.
I have a bb58 (like the one featured) very pleased with it.
The Oris looks superb, however the only thing that i would think seriously prior to buying is the size. Its a tad too big.
I would take that Oris
Both great, that oris movement is very impressive
Our thoughts exactly!
What's impressive about it?
Love the BB58, but recently been eyeing up the ORIS aquis red dial 😍
That cherry dial 😍
Very nice, but wouldn´d swap my Sinn u50 for any of these.
The Sinn u50 is a great watch too!
Oris is certainly climbing into the luxury market with their in-house movement. The Aquis is built like a shiny tank. Both are great, it comes down to which one is more visually appealing. Love the vintage gilt dial…. So Tudor wins for me.
Massive marketing increases the prices / stories of watches - Oris does not make much use of marketing, Tudor makes massive use of this. Oris is the true story of a watch brand that dares to go its own way. A brand that has struggled throughout history - always insisting on making only mechanical watches. Bought themselves out of swatch gruop - because they wanted a different story of Oris (they wanted them to make quartz watches - or die). Oris wanted something else - they insisted on making only mechanical watches - which opened the market to Japan. Japan wanted mechanical watches from switzerland in the 80s - Oris had huge success in Japan, which in turn set in motion mechanical watches from switzerland. All the big ones bent their necks and thought they were going to make quartz watches ??? Oris was far-sighted and probably actually helped to prepare the watch industry in Switzerland. Oris has his finger on the pulse and listens to their customers - they want their customers! Marketing tell a story about what you want a brand to express - history you have to look for. One has to make an effort to understand what DNA is in a watch brand. Get to know Oris - and you will understand their values and why Oris should really cost more. Oris makes real watches for real people :-)
Correctly guessed: Yes - I would choose Aquis cal. 400 (because I have it myself)
Wow!!! Well said. Oris has become one of my favourite brands.
Give me this new movement in the aquis 41.5mm and divers sixty five in a SS case and I’m sold. Will get both to add with my BB58 blue.
sounds like your perfect combination!
I might be biased as I own two Aquis models. To me the Oris is the winner. Sold my BB58 to get the Calibre 400. Can't live without a date and a ceramic bezel is just better. Also the case is much more interesting.
Without the hype the Black Bays would be just another vintage sub look a like.
Two Aquis Models? Do you have a favourite?
@@watchgecko I have the "Source of Life" and the Calibre 400 and the Calibre 400 is by far my favourite watch in my collection and my daily. It is more casual, the date is more readable and I love how shiny it is. The Source of Life is a more fun watch because of the dial color and tungsten bezel but less versatile because of that.
@@heinrich3427 Oh The Source of Life is a great looking piece, offers a lot of contrast for sure!, We look forward to getting more hands-on time with Oris in the future :D
I don't know what a vintage sub is supposed to look like.. but I like the BB58 look much more than the Oris, and so does my gf. And this is coming from someone who does like the Oris Aquis in general
I was choosing between the teal Oris Aquis 400 and the red bezel Black Bay, and while the dial on the Oris is fantastic and nearly had me, I inevitably ended up with the red bezel BB. Everything else felt better, a bit more quality and the red gave it enough of a color splash for me. I'll get an Oris eventually but there are a ton of options with them and cheaper versions that look exactly the same so I will probably do that
Tudor always. BB 58 is a classic.
It really is a classic!
The BB58 is such a classic timeless and elegant as well as versatile design, it's one of those rare occassions that the hype, or well, appreciation, is warranted.
Just the history, homaging the early days, it's just done so well and tastefully.
And... I wouldn't be buying it for its diving capabilities, so if something new with more impressive stats comes along, I'm not too bothered about it. That said, the Oris is impressive in its own right, just for me it lacks that classiness and versatility. It's just a little too bulky and sporty, but that might just be something someone's looking for.
Great comment! - Shows the diversity in tastes while appreciating them both, The blue on the Oris definitely makes it feel more sporty.
Ditto! I actually brought the Oris with the Sellita movement. It was $2k usd. My first automatic watch and I love it. But now that I’ve learned more about watches I’ve already decided that next I want the black bay. It has that classic look. Had I brought the black bay first I would be saying that next I wanted the Oris for a flashier look. Great thread, like most things I’m finding in the watch world, it’s not the conclusion but the discussion that is enjoyable.
I'm thinking of getting an aquis but not at almost 3k just for that in house movement. I'll get the £1600 version and save that 1k for a holiday
I dont care much for inhouse, but the 120 hours AND a 10 year warranty? You're guaranteed no more service costs for that long.
I have both BB Two tone and the Oris 65 and there is not much difference but the $2k in price… my Oris 65 is an amazing watch for $2K
As much as many enthusiasts might not like to admit it, a key part of buying a watch is it's image and status.
Oris faces the problemis that the 400 is practically identical to the standard Aquis... which is almost half its price. If you're going to pay a premium price, you want the watch to look like a premium product...
You're implying the Oris does not look premium? That does not register with me.
Like how the Tudor Black Bay is a poor mans Rolex submariner?
The Oris proprietary lugs/bracelet really lift it to another level.
Stunning piece for sure!
Probably still go with the Tudor out of these two. Unless Oris have fixed the 400 jumping hands issue that I have seen on other reviews.
Its no big issue and designed to do that. But if you can like with it that is :)
@@me-cq7wv I think it’s more the fact they didn’t state that from the start, first I heard of it was from owners rather than the manufacturer explaining the issue. Knowing what I know now I’d pick up and Oris if it was the watch for me.
I picked one up in January 2022 and it came with an explanation leaflet in the box “when setting time go 1-3min past the time you are sinking with then back the min hand up too the time you want” this works perfect every time and the moment other then that stay to about -3/month so 12 tones a year I have to deal with it….
@@brandonspencer309 thanks for the info, if it’s known and a “quirk” of the movement and there’s a way of setting accurately as you/Oris have said, I’m 100% ok with that! Was just the uncertainty at first. Might have to put that watch back on the list again now haha
No Question. The Oris is a dream 😌
Still Tudor! For that price, I wish they upgrade the bezel to ceramic so it won’t scratch but it would be shiny.
We hear this a lot!
I sold my Tudor for this reason. At these prices there is no excuse to not have ceramic.
I went with the Oris cal 400. No regrets.
Nice watches! Love my black bay 58. Quick question, because the 58 has a silicone balance spring, doesn’t it then also have good antimagnetic properties?
If you offered me one watch for free, to keep and add to my collection, and wear comfortably, i would choose the Oris Aquis 400, ALL DAY LONG. The Tudor is long in the tooth, old news.
43.5 calibre 400 green color 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Oris all day. The connection with Rolex undermines the desirability of the BB for me.
Oris is far more shiny than Tudor and from that point it's closer to Rolex than Tudor.
Honestly still like the BB58 more. The movement in my opinion is much better. The new Oris movement has the issue of skipping about a minute if you press the crown in after you set it and the movement doesn't seem to have a free sprung balance. Tudor has that free sprung balance along with Cosc certification thats basically has much better tolerances in terms of time keeping than the Oris. Love the look on both and I def think the Oris looks alot more updated and newer than the tudor. I guess it depends on which look you like more or if you value a 5 day power reserve that much.
Just FYI. as COSC normally operate within −4/+6 sec. The Oris Aquis cal.400 which is not officially COSC certified perform a deviation of less than a second per day over five days. That’s pretty stunning.
@@milaweitz yeah but that varies Watch to watch. Some aren’t regulated as well as some other oris watches. That’s why COSC is there for QC. Not to mention they are tested in different positions as well as temperature. I think cosc watches are great to have for ppl that actually uses their tool watches as it is intended.
@@Justsomeguy1015 it could be.
These 2 watches are great. The best decision is to have them both 😃
As someone who is seriously looking into buying one of these two watches. The main reasons I shy away from the new Aquis are firstly the lack of freedom to put whatever strap I care to put on one.
The thickness of the Oris being 13.8mm in comparison with the 11.5mm of the Black Bay. Also I'm not at all happy with the current situation vi's a vie the jumping second hand when trying to synchronise the watch after hacking.
In fact I'm quite surprised that Oris would release a new movement with such a "quirk" in it. A "quirk" that will no doubt be viewed by any other possible buyer should I wish to sell it later on down the line as a defect. Add to this the heritage and brand recognition advantage of the Tudor ( albeit a tad by proxy to its elder brother Rolex).
The potential value retention of the Black Bay which far outweighs that of the Oris.
In addition to the above what with the recent - ish release of the Black Bay 58 Blue and you can appreciate the task of choosing has got that much more difficult. I'm also looking at Omega and their various offerings in the Seamaster, Railmaster, Aqua Terra and Speedmaster ranges. Obviously I'm going to have to have a bit of a rethink with reguard to increasing my watch buying budget... Many thanks for the video anyway even if I did find it at times a little confusing... Toodle Pip old bean.
Great review!
Oris hands down such value!!!
Idk if the change of just the movement justifies the extra 30% cost. I would rather buy the oris aquis with the selita movement because I love the looks of the aquis and I already have a tudor gmt and that has 70 hours power reserve. But 38 hours is pretty little bit as I have 4 other watches that only have 38 hours power reserve
Oris everytime for me with the Cal 400. Ors bracelets are faublous too and no faux rivets like the Tudor has. ors make superb pieces.
I have the original AQUIS in green and also the BB. Awesome you can own both for £4690
Thanks for this vid!
I recently bought the omega seamaster 300m and of course I’m already looking at my next watch🤣
I really like the oris but Its still a oris and think I would go for the regular date which you can get at around €1300.
If you go at the 3k level, Tudor just had more value I believe even though I think the oris looks way better and arguably has a better movement.
I think a good comparison for the oris is the breitling superocean heritage II. They both have this shiny, bit blingy diver look.
Grey market you pay around €2300 for the oris and €3000 for the breitling, I would probably go for the breitling, hence that’s why I would go for the normal Aquis date.
Anyway both amazing watches.
Also I like that 10 years service interval in Aquis.
Also, I wonder why they choose pins and sleeves over screws on a pricy watch like this? Appreciate the review!
I just got a BB58! I love it!!!!!!!!!
I think the price rise on the Oris is completely justified with the new in house movement its got my attention
im just patiently waiting for oris to make another version of their upcycle watch with the new inhouse 400 calibre movement!!! then itll be sold :D
I emailed them asking if they plan to do that (it’s exactly what I want too) and they said they do not plan to put the 400 in the upcycle. Hope they’re just keeping secrets but they did respond…
@@PeaterTheGreat Thanks for sharing that info. Thats a real shame, the upcycle deserves some upgrade treatment :(
Oris win 🏆 👍 I Buy only Rolex, omega and Oris watches
I have a orissa Aquis ad I find it's more comfortable than my omega Seasalter and the loom I find is better than the omega that's my opinion
This why, i was bought oris
Agree. I prefer the Oris, by far.
I have both. Tudor for the win.
I never cared for Tudor's hour hand design
Great video Tudor is still good has no Hacking problems with its movement
Great video
I wear the SD43 and I fancy the the Aquis 400
Thanks 🙏
Oris really looks Value for Money , good watches being released by ORIS in market at a budgeted price compared to Luxury.
Tudor BB !!!
:D
I understand why you compared these watches but the BB58 is better overall & a strap monster! Oh & BTW it is deployant not deployment 😉
Thanks for the feedback! hope you enjoyed the video :D
What if there oris is 2300 cad? Will y’all still choose the Tudor
The Oris looks a great watch, but why do they keep going with the integrated bracelet/strap options? I wear all my watches on NATO's, I can't wear bracelets. My BB is one of the watches in my collection that I will never sell, I prefer the classic looks, and the simplicity of the dial.
I get your point, but being an Aquis owner, I will say the lugs/integrated bracelet are one of the main design elements that set it apart. If they went to a standard lug, it would lose the Aquis look. I personally love the integrated bracelet
@@dorningarts That's the annoying thing for me, I really like the style of integrated bracelets, there are some great examples around. Otherwise this would be straight in my collection.
I think if you opt for the steel bracelet one you get a rubber strap free, not sure though. I have issues with seel bracelets too 😁
@@sagarpandita6916 I'll check at the dealers when they open again. Don't mind a silicon strap, and I really like the way they blend into the integrated lugs. It's a nice detail on a watch.
Well I have a BB58 and a cal 400 in my collection so there's that
Perfect!
Tudor
I think the Aquis is closer to the Pelagos while the Oris Divers 65 is closer in comparison to the black bay
It's like driving grandpa's very nice old Mercedes-Benz versus a new Genesis GV80. History is important, but the time to step into a new era has finally come. As for you, Submariner... it was a good run. Nite nite. Hello Oris.
I have the aquis black 400 41
Wanted an everyday watch
Oris, I just wish they'd fix the skipping minute hand issue that's been known with their Calibre 400. Their unique style, good sizing, and beautiful dials stand out to me. If they made an Aquis Date Relief with a blue dial and with a Calibre 400 that's had the issue fixed - then I'd be sold instantly for one.
Tudor and Omega rules that price bracket
Thanks for checking out or video Martin!
Omega are obviously in another, higher bracket.
I like ORIS
The Tudor is a Rolex sister company though and I feel it will almost go up in value and retain your moneys worth and is a classic design.. Oris is nice but I’m sketchy on it
Tudor is a poor man's Rolex or budget Rolex. Nothing wrong with Tudor but they look like a budget Rolex and have the image of a budget Rolex. I doubt Tudor has the same value retention as Rolex because it doesn't have the same prestige.
i got both
Are we ever gonna get the Zenith a384 review?
The Oris is a beautiful watch, but I still prefer the Tudor
The ORIS is the better looking watch, no competition IMO
Tudor Black Bay 58 all the way!
Both nice but the bb58 beats both of them.
Thanks for checking out our comparison video!
I love Oris aquis date calibre 400. It is TOP diver
It's a beautiful watch to be fair!
I'd take my Tissot Seastar 2000 over both of them.
No.
Hoping they will bring it in the 39 MM. Talking about the oris. Only the size here takes me out of it.
We have seen this mentioned quite a lot, you never know :D
It’s wears much smaller than your typical 41.5mm case due to its short lug to lug distance. I have a smaller wrist and was surprised how well it wears!
Oris
I hate to say it…buuuuut I feel like they could have put date at the 6😂😂
Oris has a longer history than Tudor does
Not sure how the Tudor can be considered a 'dive' watch when its only rated 200m water resistant.. Maybe ok in the shower but not confident it wouldn't be flooded if you took it diving or even snorkelling. Oris everyday in this comparison i'm afraid
LOL! Unless you're a tech diver, you're never going to get close to 200m.
BB is no way sub $3000
Frankly, I think Tudor being recognized as a “budget Rolex” is more a negative than a positive. Its like Adidas continuing to make shoes that look like Yeezy’s for half the price - at this point you just look like a poser who can’t afford the real thing.
The Tudor still looks a lot cleaner and I think has an aesthetic that will stand the test of time better.
On the flip side it looks just like a Rolex, and the same way they have looked for decades. Nothing new or interesting.
The Black Bay is boring as it can get. The Aquis is by far the better looking watch
The Tudor is not a "safe choice". There's nothing safe about a fat 14.8mm height with slab sided case. I listed to too many RUclipsrs who fawned over the BB Heritage and as I wanted the latest and greatest I got the in-house calibre but had to flip that as it was too tall and a horrible wear.
Out of curiosity, what's your wrist size? Out of the watches you own , which is your favorite?
👏👏👏
Thanks!
The big thing is that $1,100 uptick in price for the Oris. That really takes it away from a value prop no doesn’t it? Adding a thousand dollar movement really doesn’t make it that much better if a watch. The Oris lived in that $1200 range and dominated it, but I think they were getting. Tired of being compared to Hamilton and Christopher Ward and wanted the push farther up. The Aquis is also a modern diver with a really dated look. Like the 70’s Omega quartz watches. Dated and not good looking at all. Oris trying to catch up to Tudor and it’s cute, while Tudor doesn’t have to do anything but put out the BB in a different color and it will sell tons more than the Oris.
The Oris is just an ok watch, and is not worth the 1100 up charge. I’d get an older one, with the off the shelf movement for under a grad used.
Thanks for taking the time to check out our comparison, appreciate the personal insight too!
I bought oris in official retail for $ 3.5k a few days ago
People who gets Tudor just because it is "Rolex" that it.
Rubbish lol... not everyone is as shallow as u
Wannabe Rolex 🤣
The Aquis 400 and Black Bay 58 were on my short list for a new watch. The Oris particularly is absolutely gorgeous. However, Oris are very shy regarding water resistance testing for their divers. I contacted the company twice asking about this (supposedly 72 hour reply...) and received no response. Tudor, however, told me. I was impressed. So I bought the Black Bay. I've lost my respect for Oris.