FBI Commanding Officer: Yeah so, he only brutally kills girls who have a birthday on the 14th. Oh come to my daughters party next week, it's on the 14th. Wait... That's YOUR birthday too?? What a crazy coincidence. Okay, back to work, business as usual, let's catch this bad guy!
I gave comment thief a dislike. But back to the topic, yeah. I noticed about halfway through the movie he at least started to look more and more concerned about the shared birthday. Also why was 14 a significant number?
I always liked Cage. He love doing those quirky bizzare films. When he was young he collaborated with Lynch, Wild at Heart was one. And recent years Cage forgone those big hollywood films for more indie brand like he use to do, great sunset for his career, and you can see he's super passionate too lol
How much screen time did Anthony Hopkins have in The Silence of the Lambs? The two films are in their own league but you can pick up what I’m putting down.
@@omelette535 my point still stands this joke wasnt funny like 2-3 years ago when it first started and its still not funny, if you find that funny you probably still think big chungus and the troll face meme is funny
It was a weird movie. The only complaint I have is that the movie throws a bunch of things at us: the strange notes, mind powers, dates of the murders, etc. And then at the end, those things are only loosely tied up. They could have cut a bunch of that crap and had a much tighter movie.
I love it when things are just sprinkled in though. Leaves it to your imagination. Makes you wonder about everything from all sides, like how even the feds go through that stuff on a regular basis to have screening for it. I love details like that.
I swear the movie was great until the 3rd act. Haven’t had a movie grab my attention so hard within the first 5 minutes in a long time but then it all kinda just lost itself they should have focused on it being about a serial killer and maybe a little bit of supernatural stuff but it just went off the rails quick and I checked out
I felt the same way. The mystery of how Longlegs managed to escape/not leave any evidence at the scene of his crimes was intriguing, it made it seem like he was a genius outsmarting the police and made me excited for the eventual reveal. Then it came and it was so disappointing, he was just a devil worshipper who was basically granted plot armor.
@@GhostInTheMachine165 I thought it was gonna be the dolls were mechanically manufactured and they would be the ones doing the killings after being delivered, that way there are zero fingerprints or evidence.
@@GhostInTheMachine165exactly how I felt. The suspense and intrigue of the whole mystery was killed as soon as it became demonic. The film had almost a “saw/jigsaw” like level of curiosity behind the killer just to unfold the way it did.
I really liked this movie. The creeping dread throughout the entire movie. The suspense that builds in every scene. And the clues you see in the background scenes, plus the foreshadowing.
@@milestrombley1466 I got you! Old stinky Lady put funni green goop (by Gwenyth Paltrow) into her body and it make her into a super hero known as Boner Manifester
omfg I need the deleted scenes stat!! I hadn’t heard about adult ruby before, that’s fascinating! I’ve also heard there’s a legit tape of longlegs singing happy birthday in interrogation for 24 mins 🤣
My god thank you so much for saying it overpromised and underdelivered. If not for the ridiculous overhyped marketing stunts this would have been a decent experience. Scariest horror movie of 2024 my ass
There's a lot of depth of information in this movie, which I wasn't able to notice at first. However, the breakdown from The Vile Eye really helped me.
I didn't see any of the trailers to hype me up. Didn't have any expectations going in watching this. Came out confused by the the corny twist at the end, still disturbed by the movies vibe, and amazed when I found out it was Nicholas cage under that makeup.
I felt like the satanic stuff was so disappointing. Like too easy of an explanation. "Can't think of a creative way to explain how this happens? Well, let's just say it's satan."
While I agree it was disappointing, I didn’t get the vibe that it was because they couldn’t explain it. I think they set it up like it was going to have a different explanation, but it was definitely meant to end the way it did. It’d be cooler if something smart had happened, but I honestly think they were going for a satanic element the whole time rather than use it as a solution
@anotheryoutubeuser5379 they definitely were. I had to watch the movie twice to notice the Devil just hiding in the background of scenes. Just goes to show his influence on the main character from the very beginning
Ok let me explain the point of the movie cuz its legit one of my faves, I agree that the movie isn't very overt and much of the scary stuff is in the subtext. But imo, this story is a metaphor. We have Lee, "the daughter", Ruth "the mother", longlegs "the father", "the house" (which represents goodness), and "the man downstairs", which is evil or the devil. Long legs, the megalomaniac, kills girls on or surrounding their 9th birthday. He gives the girls family a choice, "to submit and bow down way way down" or " destroy the doll and destroy yourself". This means the girl must be killed on her 9th birthday, in order to prevent her from getting older and loosing her innocence. Its a metaphor on how, in some religions and societies, it is viewed better to die young than live "sinfully", especially by the misogynist father who cannot accept the girls growth. Harker has been protected from longlegs because her mom shields her from him... like many mothers are forced to do to protect children from their fathers. In turn, she enables him for her protection (helps kill the other children) and is therefore a part of it - although it is not her fault. Therefore Lee has been spared from the man downstairs (longlegs physically lives below them in the basement). When longlegs says her house is "white, the whitest i have ever seen" it refers to her innocent soul - which has darkened since - but is still bright. Carrie Anne (who wakes up after her doll is removed from the floor and its eyes are opened) is a survivor, yet represented as "evil" in her adulthood, while Lee (who has been told where to look) is reffered to as an angel. When Lee and Carrie anne's mothers say they "bled them up too much" and lee's mother says "I allowed you to live, it is a cruel cruel world, especially for little girls." They are also referencing how women are viewed as evil. When longlegs says 'Do not be afraid of a little bit of dark because you are the dark' talking to one of the dolls (a representation of a child) - he is referencing how society views maturing women as Jezebels and evil. At the end of the day, I dont think longlegs himself was the evil, he just brought out the evil in the fathers (who were ALWAYS the perpetrators of the murders), for example the captains daughter (before longleg's face is even known) tells Lee that her dad makes her keep a bunch of old stuff, "because he doesn't want her to grow up too fast." Therefore the fathers do "the dirty work" work that gets dirty as it cleans, in an attempt to hold onto purity. I think its also a metaphor for how a secret (longlegs) kept within the family can destroy it, as Osgood perkins father was secretly gay but this was hidden from the family (maybe with his moms knowledge)? Honestly great movie in the subtext imo - and i dont think its "just satan" but more of a metaphor of what people will do to keep perceived purity. The end of the movie when Lee is being influenced by the doll might also mean the cycle continues and is too overpowering to break.
@lucretiamaggio6154 they did. They just didn't show them opening it, but Cater said they did after Lee interrogated LongLegs, and he let her know the girl jumped
they’re are movies meant to scare you and movies that are meant to more so creep you out and unnerve you, this movie is definitely the later but promotion made it seem like it would be the former
I took my daughter to see this and we both loved it. Mika’s anxiety felt so incredibly real. The abysmal atmosphere completely engulfs you. And that part where Longlegs was screaming in the car mimicking the young girl in the store, stood out to me because it was so sudden and unhinged. Everything was unnerving. It was great.
The movie was god awful, wasnt even scary, plus they had so many scenes of “drama” and scary music when the main character is by herself . It away such a waste of time.
@@randombropros9622thank you! Everyone is going to pretend to like this movie because it appears artsy. It was boring, dull, made no sense. All of a sudden at the end people are saying Hail Satan. One of the worst movies I've ever seen
I'd like to think that both films are in the same universe, where Satan doesn't have any major plans of world domination and is just out to mess with people
This movie COULD HAVE BEEN one of the great horror films of ALL-TIME! But, instead of developing Longlegs as a character, they just used him as a side-show freak. This was a huge missed opportunity. If you have an inquisitive mind, you can't HELP but thinking: - How did he get this power? - How does the brain/orb work? - WHAT IS UP WITH HIS FACE? - How exactly does the doll take-over the family? - What was his past like? - Why is the devil helping him? - What is his reward for doing all this? Maybe they'll do a sequel, given the success of this film.
All those questions is what makes it great for me. I don't want everything tied up in a neat little bow with movies like these. I want to think about wtf I just watched and to philosophize on it. Maybe watch a slasher or something instead if you want to shut your mind off and have everything spoon fed to you.
That's not really how movies work, for this amount of world building you probably want a show or a videogame For this amount of *in your face* world building, because as other comments have pointed out, some of these details are in the movie, they're just not at the forefront
I agree. With how great the promo and trailers did for this film. They could of had a masterpiece. But there just isn't any character development for Lee or longlegs. Lee is just dull and it just doesn't seem like she's even trying to act. I'm sure that's what Oz wanted from her. But it just overall hurts the film imo. I would rather longlegs getting more screen time and him actually doing the killings atleast. Not having the doll aspect would have been better imo. They could of have a silence of the lambs type film. But instead went with a doll possession film. But I still think it was a good film. I'd give it 7 out of 10.
- A deal with the devil - The orb stores part of the essence of the devil within the family's mind, causing them to go nuts - Botched plastic surgeries to get more beautiful, which ironically made him horrendous - The doll is more of a gateway into the house, allowing the devil to do his work, he can't get inside unless they let him in - He was a failed Glam Rock musician, you can see clues to his past on the basement and his constant rock singing - It's a deal, he gives souls and deaths to the devil in worship, so the devil gives him power - He probably thinks he will be treated well in hell
Longlegs and spiderlegs were my nicknames in high school because my legs, arms and fingers were and still are disproportionately long in comparison to the rest of my body. Since I was very into cryptids I loved it and very much enjoyed my status as the local slenderman. Can’t imagine what might’ve happened if this movie came out back then.
Pisses me off how most horror movies now are marketed as "scariest movie since x" or "cinema goers literally vomited and passed out trying to watch this" because it never lives up to that ridiculous hype
I swear comments like these are so bizarre. Are you a NPC? Why do ppl state the same fucking thing the video states than some how amass likes? Like wtf. Dead internet theory is real.
@enoughabouteve maybe I'll clarify for once. Your comment is almost word for word pulled from the sentence spoken in the video. Than it garners likes. So, no original thought? Tik tok caused brain rot where you hear a statement than parot it assuming it was an original idea? Now, let's say you're the exception, have you never seen it either? With 60% of online traffic being bots nowadays you can't tell if it's a bot, or someone with such massive brain rot and the inability to have one's own original thought is flabbergasting lmfao. Call it what you will.
Lots of mixed feelings about this one, especially the 3rd act. The feeling of dread and anxiety throughout was incredibly well done, and I thought Mika Monroe and Cage were really great. It did feel a bit like they couldn’t quite tie all the threads together at the end so they just chalked everything up to Satan. Don’t get me wrong, the “blink and you miss it” glimpses of Satan sprinkled in were so creepy and really added to the tension. I’m not personally sure what other direction they could have taken, but “uhhh it’s the devil!” feels a little underwhelming.
Nic cage mentioned in an interview that his character is a former glam Rock star and his face is the result of bad plastic surgery to try stay relevant! Cool little detail
There was barely any investigating in this movie. "we need to decipher his letter. " "Oh. I can magically read what he wrote " "We need to look for him." "Oh, he's at a bus stop. He called to let everyone know where he's at."
I don't think she can magically read what he wrote - she got the birthday letter from him with a decipher code of which symbol related to each letter of the card. I think she used that to figure out the rest
I would be okay with that if thats what happened. She grew up with long legs. She just knows how to read it because he taught her how to read it growing up.
@@kennethforman5265 wasn't there a whole scene of her deciphering the code using the bible? of course longlegs gave her the means to decipher the code on purpose so it was him that let her do it but i don't think she knew the code the whole time
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Hahahahaha that "Half psychic is better than no psychic" line in the movie made me laugh more than it should have. It's the kind of joke I would make in awkward situations to lighten the mood.
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I liked this movie. There’s a genre of “atmospheric horror“ movies that build off tension and atmosphere vs flat it scares. This movie may not check all the boxes but it’s a solid film.
That’s another one that came out this year about a big spider, not to be confused with the Adam Sandler one with him being stuck with a large spider addicted to Nutella in space lol
I think osgood perkins tried to create a horror movie with the uncomfortable atmosphere that movies like “the killing of a sacred deer” & “infinity pool” are known for creating, and possibly considered it the new secret formula for today’s horror genre, but he focused on that more instead of the storyline, which didn’t take much effort to come up with, so that’s why it disappointed some people unfortunately.
It seems Carter had to be somewhat affected the whole movie. He guided her to her mom and he allowed her to question Carrie Ann and Longlegs alone. It’s the only thing that makes sense given they found the case with the doll together. I mean he knew when his daughters birthday was and as soon as her mom showed up with the chest you’d think he would’ve know what it was and responded accordingly, he was even present for the interrogation when he said a person showed up with a gift from the church so I mean how would he allow his family to fall for it?
Maybe im just not as big brained as everyone else but i thought it was a great straight forward scary movie. Not some metaphoric, deep thinking flick that usually comes out nowadays with a thousand different twist and turns. It was a solid horror film. Definitely one to remember.
This movie scared me like no other film has in a long time. Its definitely one of those films you can come to appreciate with more viewings. And see the details you missed. Lotta people talking about cage performance, he did great. But i think the mom was the way more scary and unnerving character by the end of the film.
Can you explain to me why you thought it was a good movie? I saw it in theatre and in my opinion it sucked ass. Probably in my top 5 worst “horror” movies.
@@goldenflower5035 in my 1st viewing before the 3rd act twist I thought the film was pretty predictable and boring. Especially the main characters acting. And longlegs character wasn't that scary to me at 1st, he was pretty funny to me. But after finishing the film on my 1st viewing and thinking about what I watched. The 3rd act actually destroyed me in a messed up way. At 1st I thought the daughter was the one working with longlegs, the mom being the real culprit was also very predictable. But the reasoning got to me. Alot of people say they didn't like the exposition dump in the 3rd act, but for me it freaked me out. The mom did all those horrible things to protect her daughter from the devil. But the whole time the devil was in full control of everything. He could've just took the daughter like the rest, but instead he wanted to twist the moms love and care for her daughter and turn it into something evil and sinister so he can play with religious families. He succeeded, by the end of the film you get to see what the devil actually does. By the end of the film you see the mom did all that stuff for nothing, she even says if the family doesn't die or any future victims don't die, her daughter will twist forever in hell. The devil basically makes the daughter kill her mom, and by the end of it you see with gun not shooting the doll, he was always in control he just wanted to toy and mess with these loving people and turn their love into something evil. And nothing can stop him. That's what I took from the ending. Like I said my 1st viewing I was thinking this girl is acting so boring but with the twist I see why she's acting that way and it's kinda sad and scary. Its that the devil was manipulating the whole time, Then longlegs character like I said at 1st viewing to me he seemed funny and goofy. But after thinking about what he's saying and the way he emotes, it's very messed up and scary to me. Then with the cop dad guy, to me it was kinda implied that he was very invested in the longlegs case to try to stop his family from being the next victims. But by the end of the film you see he failed and he falls under same thing as the other fathers. In those final 5 minutes of the film everything clicked for me. I was literally shouting at the TV for her to do something save the family. But then I notice it looks like everyone is paralyzed and possessed. And the way the dad talked to the wife. It was one of those moments while watching a film it actually felt like I couldn't breathe. The whole plot by the 3rd act clicked with me, it was that the devil always had control and nothing can or will stop him. And he was just having fun. That's why imo I thought it was a good horror film. But that's just my opinion. I Apologies for the long typing.
@@rayvonvelez3129you should never apologize for communicating your point in an intelligent, concise way. Well said. I liked the movie a lot for the a lot of the same reasons you mentioned. How else do you explain such evil except with the touch of a supernatural evil.
I actually kind of liked that there were a bunch of loose ends. It's nice to not have everything just explained. Some stuff was explained outside of the movie since they created a whole ARG for it. I really enjoyed it, but I definitely didn't go into it thinking it was going to be a horror movie though and that probably helped.
So I think this movie is really great. I think if you're willing to accept that the movie was NEVER "Seven" or "Silence of the Lambs," but it's actually been "Needful Things" the whole time. There is a lot to appreciate on repeat viewings. Everything is explainable and there are 2 distinct readings of the film (magic, or no magic), but I like the read that the devil orchestrated this entire set of events and was very successful in devastating many lives over several years. Lee's "psychic powers" are the devil nudging her in the right direction, etc etc.
This was definitely a film that benefited from being seen in the theater. The silence in the beginning is so noticeable that when you finally see Longlegs is utterly terrifying. It's not a perfect film, but I really enjoyed it and can't wait to see the deleted scenes.
YESSSS was waiting for you to make a vid on it. I personally give Longlegs 7.5/10, the constant uneasy feeling the entire time is what made me enjoy it not gonna lie. Ill agree with the ending feeling very disconnected. But still good plot twist though.
I think a lot of ppl don't like it is expectations from the trailers and marketing. Try to limit your expectations and you'll enjoy stuff more. It's also weird how ppl seem to remember everything from a trailer but can't remember the exposition from the start of the movie just a bit ago or in general what they did last week. Lastly, I think there's a disconnect with some filmmakers and the average audience member. Most ppl are too stuck in reality and don't have the energy or interest in the supernatural or surreal. Its goes over their head when they've lived their life being super analytical and critical. Or for the religious it may challenge their beliefs. And like the decade of cinemasins and other youtubers basically telling people how to think in 1-2 narrow ways to view a film... well it is how we get here.
I saw this in the movie theater with one other person in another row. When I tell you that the tension was high for me. 😂 There would be moments where I would look around to see if the other person was trying to sneak up on me while watching this movie with all its tense moments.
This is the third video I've watched for any kind of take on why her gun is changed to a revolver in the last scene and only has 3 of 6 rounds. Anyone have thoughts? Her mother fires the shotgun 3 times a few scenes before. Could there be a connection?
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I didn't see any marketing for this movie and liked it. That said, if I saw the whole "scariest movie!!" thing, I probably would have skipped it. The vast majority of the time those movies are meh and not scary at all.
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Very let down by this. I think it would have been way better if they dropped the satanic crap and just kept him as a serial killer. The trailer made me think it was gonna be way different. The movie wasn't really that scary, it was just weird honestly
Can't disagree more. I think it was a great movie and those who didn't enjoy it, I feel bad they didn't. Longlegs was a good movie. Well paced and wasn't annoyingly shocking.
@@cynicalninaI feel like we have enough supernatural horror out there already, any additions need to be done REALLY well. I feel like some aspects of the movie were executed well, but not the supernatural elements. IMO, of course!
I wanted to enjoy this movie as much as everyone else did, the concept was pretty good but I didn’t really enjoy the story. I can’t exactly pinpoint why.
I normally hate “scary” / horror movies but, I actually really liked this movie and I thought Nicolas Cage was really good in it. I don’t normally watch this genre of movie so I’m probably not the best person to decide whether or not this is a good horror movie. It had it’s flaws but, the vice and atmosphere, as well as the acting was good so I was willing to forgive some of it’s narrative sins.
Liked this movie. Nicholas Cage was so creepy, weird and unsettling as Longlegs I’ve never really understood movie criticism of film where the plot isn’t spoon fed to you. Lingering questions isn’t a bad thing
Him and the devil laughed because people usually sell their souls for fame (singer/longlegs) or money. It was a more amusing game to be played with her being a cop. Remember she originally wanted to be an actor.
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FBI Commanding Officer: Yeah so, he only brutally kills girls who have a birthday on the 14th. Oh come to my daughters party next week, it's on the 14th. Wait... That's YOUR birthday too?? What a crazy coincidence. Okay, back to work, business as usual, let's catch this bad guy!
It’s stuff like this I think about that ruins a movie for me. When common sense is ignored it takes me out of it lol
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I gave comment thief a dislike. But back to the topic, yeah. I noticed about halfway through the movie he at least started to look more and more concerned about the shared birthday. Also why was 14 a significant number?
I liked the movie but this bothered me the most 😂
This film had SO MUCH POTENTIAL. The cinematography and editing was stellar.
It was a great movie, I never saw promos so discovering this movie blindly really paid off.
This movie oissed me off. Holy crsp what a horrible movie
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Movie wasn't bad. Confusing as hell to start though.
Should have been a mini series. Would have gave the whole world this movie lives in room to breathe
Dude, good for Cage for making a good paycheck for 15 minutes or so of screen time. Good on him.
I always liked Cage. He love doing those quirky bizzare films. When he was young he collaborated with Lynch, Wild at Heart was one. And recent years Cage forgone those big hollywood films for more indie brand like he use to do, great sunset for his career, and you can see he's super passionate too lol
Cage is versatile actor he can play in any genre while the other big paid actor they will not do any horror genre
How much screen time did Anthony Hopkins have in The Silence of the Lambs? The two films are in their own league but you can pick up what I’m putting down.
Wild at heart is one of my faves@@slimjimjimslim5923
Yep😂 and he deserves every dollar of that paycheck he was phenomenal 👻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
The only scare I got was at the start when long legs ducks into frame, I jumped.
Same that’s the only part I got startled lol
Bro needs to be spoon-fed cheap jump scares in order to like a movie
It's more disturbing and suspenseful than horror and scary.
There’s more to horror movies than jump scares…
@@Whopperwhopper420projection
Watched the movie, didn't see any long legs, disappointed, 2/10
bruh did you not see the scene where he said “i’m boutta long-“ and then he legs all over? that was my favorite part
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@@matthewloscar2893from a “they see me creepin’, they freaking” minecraft pfp is actually bonkers😭🙏
@@omelette535 my point still stands this joke wasnt funny like 2-3 years ago when it first started and its still not funny, if you find that funny you probably still think big chungus and the troll face meme is funny
@@matthewloscar2893 ur point does not stand actually, friendly fire will not be tolerated
It was a weird movie.
The only complaint I have is that the movie throws a bunch of things at us: the strange notes, mind powers, dates of the murders, etc. And then at the end, those things are only loosely tied up. They could have cut a bunch of that crap and had a much tighter movie.
I love it when things are just sprinkled in though. Leaves it to your imagination. Makes you wonder about everything from all sides, like how even the feds go through that stuff on a regular basis to have screening for it. I love details like that.
Totally agree!
"Hey look! It's Nicholas Cage! Being creepy!"
That's the jist of this movie.
It should have been more vague and less straightforward.
It tries to explain things but its too undercooked.
The only scene I liked was Nicholas Cage mocking that girl & going crazy in the car.Everything else was cheesy & sleep worthy.
I swear the movie was great until the 3rd act. Haven’t had a movie grab my attention so hard within the first 5 minutes in a long time but then it all kinda just lost itself they should have focused on it being about a serial killer and maybe a little bit of supernatural stuff but it just went off the rails quick and I checked out
I fell asleep in the first 20 minutes.
I felt the same way. The mystery of how Longlegs managed to escape/not leave any evidence at the scene of his crimes was intriguing, it made it seem like he was a genius outsmarting the police and made me excited for the eventual reveal. Then it came and it was so disappointing, he was just a devil worshipper who was basically granted plot armor.
@rosieglows no, you didn't
@@GhostInTheMachine165 I thought it was gonna be the dolls were mechanically manufactured and they would be the ones doing the killings after being delivered, that way there are zero fingerprints or evidence.
@@GhostInTheMachine165exactly how I felt. The suspense and intrigue of the whole mystery was killed as soon as it became demonic. The film had almost a “saw/jigsaw” like level of curiosity behind the killer just to unfold the way it did.
I really liked this movie. The creeping dread throughout the entire movie. The suspense that builds in every scene. And the clues you see in the background scenes, plus the foreshadowing.
I laughed out loud Nicholas cage said "DADDY.... MOMMY" 😂
That part was so stupid 😂
I sometimes feel like nick cage says whatever shit and producers let him
I’ve been doing his “I wore my long legs today” at work in the will Ferrell Julia child voice
Nic didn’t know the camera was rolling. They just stuck one in his car. He was just driving home from work
Thats me usually when i get off work 😂
Can you explain Substance with Demi Moore next please?
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Maybe he should do Substance with Demi Lavato instead
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@@milestrombley1466 I got you! Old stinky Lady put funni green goop (by Gwenyth Paltrow) into her body and it make her into a super hero known as Boner Manifester
I looove this type of cinematography. I'm not sure if there's a name for it, but the only word that comes to mind is a deep sense of nostalgia.
omfg I need the deleted scenes stat!! I hadn’t heard about adult ruby before, that’s fascinating! I’ve also heard there’s a legit tape of longlegs singing happy birthday in interrogation for 24 mins 🤣
Lady at the movies: IDK what to think about that movie...
Me: I think we were tricked into watching Nick Cage in drag singing
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Lol fr
I feel like I just watched him on a regular off day from acting 😂
My god thank you so much for saying it overpromised and underdelivered. If not for the ridiculous overhyped marketing stunts this would have been a decent experience. Scariest horror movie of 2024 my ass
There's a lot of depth of information in this movie, which I wasn't able to notice at first. However, the breakdown from The Vile Eye really helped me.
Yeah he and spookyastronauts ACTUALLY did an “explained” video lol
Ive been waiting for this one!!!!
He always comes through for us 😂
Haha me too
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Lol same
I was literally just thinking this
I didn't see any of the trailers to hype me up. Didn't have any expectations going in watching this. Came out confused by the the corny twist at the end, still disturbed by the movies vibe, and amazed when I found out it was Nicholas cage under that makeup.
shame that you didn’t watch any of the trailers, the marketing for this movie was some of the best i’ve seen for a horror
The marketing was the best part and made the movie better if you followed the arg
@@awesumtoast97 there's pirates in this movie?
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Cage's name is on screen twice before the movie even begins stating that he is starring and produced the movie. Can't be bothered to read huh?😂
I felt like the satanic stuff was so disappointing. Like too easy of an explanation. "Can't think of a creative way to explain how this happens? Well, let's just say it's satan."
While I agree it was disappointing, I didn’t get the vibe that it was because they couldn’t explain it. I think they set it up like it was going to have a different explanation, but it was definitely meant to end the way it did. It’d be cooler if something smart had happened, but I honestly think they were going for a satanic element the whole time rather than use it as a solution
@anotheryoutubeuser5379 they definitely were. I had to watch the movie twice to notice the Devil just hiding in the background of scenes. Just goes to show his influence on the main character from the very beginning
Sometimes it feels like Hollywood used all good spoilers. Has there been anything like 6th sense, fight club or the matrix in the past few decades?
Ok let me explain the point of the movie cuz its legit one of my faves, I agree that the movie isn't very overt and much of the scary stuff is in the subtext. But imo, this story is a metaphor. We have Lee, "the daughter", Ruth "the mother", longlegs "the father", "the house" (which represents goodness), and "the man downstairs", which is evil or the devil. Long legs, the megalomaniac, kills girls on or surrounding their 9th birthday. He gives the girls family a choice, "to submit and bow down way way down" or " destroy the doll and destroy yourself". This means the girl must be killed on her 9th birthday, in order to prevent her from getting older and loosing her innocence. Its a metaphor on how, in some religions and societies, it is viewed better to die young than live "sinfully", especially by the misogynist father who cannot accept the girls growth. Harker has been protected from longlegs because her mom shields her from him... like many mothers are forced to do to protect children from their fathers. In turn, she enables him for her protection (helps kill the other children) and is therefore a part of it - although it is not her fault. Therefore Lee has been spared from the man downstairs (longlegs physically lives below them in the basement). When longlegs says her house is "white, the whitest i have ever seen" it refers to her innocent soul - which has darkened since - but is still bright. Carrie Anne (who wakes up after her doll is removed from the floor and its eyes are opened) is a survivor, yet represented as "evil" in her adulthood, while Lee (who has been told where to look) is reffered to as an angel.
When Lee and Carrie anne's mothers say they "bled them up too much" and lee's mother says "I allowed you to live, it is a cruel cruel world, especially for little girls." They are also referencing how women are viewed as evil.
When longlegs says 'Do not be afraid of a little bit of dark because you are the dark' talking to one of the dolls (a representation of a child) - he is referencing how society views maturing women as Jezebels and evil. At the end of the day, I dont think longlegs himself was the evil, he just brought out the evil in the fathers (who were ALWAYS the perpetrators of the murders), for example the captains daughter (before longleg's face is even known) tells Lee that her dad makes her keep a bunch of old stuff, "because he doesn't want her to grow up too fast." Therefore the fathers do "the dirty work" work that gets dirty as it cleans, in an attempt to hold onto purity. I think its also a metaphor for how a secret (longlegs) kept within the family can destroy it, as Osgood perkins father was secretly gay but this was hidden from the family (maybe with his moms knowledge)? Honestly great movie in the subtext imo - and i dont think its "just satan" but more of a metaphor of what people will do to keep perceived purity. The end of the movie when Lee is being influenced by the doll might also mean the cycle continues and is too overpowering to break.
I was disappointed by that aspect as well. It's didn't really feel earned to me. I was waiting for a "oh my God" type of explanation.
Carrie Anne’s doll wasn’t technically destroyed .. the ball remained intact because the analyst said it wouldn’t be necessary to “open up”
@T.E.X.T-ME-FoundFlix wow! Would you like all of my personal information and those 3 funni numbaz on the back !?
They opened it later and said nothing was inside
@@gabriellethompson501I thought that they x rayed it
@lucretiamaggio6154 they did. They just didn't show them opening it, but Cater said they did after Lee interrogated LongLegs, and he let her know the girl jumped
Maybe they opened it after she already jumped.
they’re are movies meant to scare you and movies that are meant to more so creep you out and unnerve you, this movie is definitely the later but promotion made it seem like it would be the former
I took my daughter to see this and we both loved it. Mika’s anxiety felt so incredibly real. The abysmal atmosphere completely engulfs you. And that part where Longlegs was screaming in the car mimicking the young girl in the store, stood out to me because it was so sudden and unhinged. Everything was unnerving. It was great.
The movie was god awful, wasnt even scary, plus they had so many scenes of “drama” and scary music when the main character is by herself . It away such a waste of time.
@@randombropros9622it’s okay, not everyone has good taste! Enjoy your slasher slop
@@randombropros9622thank you! Everyone is going to pretend to like this movie because it appears artsy. It was boring, dull, made no sense. All of a sudden at the end people are saying Hail Satan. One of the worst movies I've ever seen
The dark looming Satan shadow in this one is very similar to Osgoods one in the blackcoats daughter.
I thought the same thing while watching those scenes.
I'd like to think that both films are in the same universe, where Satan doesn't have any major plans of world domination and is just out to mess with people
This movie COULD HAVE BEEN one of the great horror films of ALL-TIME!
But, instead of developing Longlegs as a character, they just used him as a side-show freak.
This was a huge missed opportunity.
If you have an inquisitive mind, you can't HELP but thinking:
- How did he get this power?
- How does the brain/orb work?
- WHAT IS UP WITH HIS FACE?
- How exactly does the doll take-over the family?
- What was his past like?
- Why is the devil helping him?
- What is his reward for doing all this?
Maybe they'll do a sequel, given the success of this film.
All those questions is what makes it great for me. I don't want everything tied up in a neat little bow with movies like these. I want to think about wtf I just watched and to philosophize on it. Maybe watch a slasher or something instead if you want to shut your mind off and have everything spoon fed to you.
That's not really how movies work, for this amount of world building you probably want a show or a videogame
For this amount of *in your face* world building, because as other comments have pointed out, some of these details are in the movie, they're just not at the forefront
I agree. With how great the promo and trailers did for this film. They could of had a masterpiece. But there just isn't any character development for Lee or longlegs. Lee is just dull and it just doesn't seem like she's even trying to act. I'm sure that's what Oz wanted from her. But it just overall hurts the film imo. I would rather longlegs getting more screen time and him actually doing the killings atleast. Not having the doll aspect would have been better imo. They could of have a silence of the lambs type film. But instead went with a doll possession film. But I still think it was a good film. I'd give it 7 out of 10.
- A deal with the devil
- The orb stores part of the essence of the devil within the family's mind, causing them to go nuts
- Botched plastic surgeries to get more beautiful, which ironically made him horrendous
- The doll is more of a gateway into the house, allowing the devil to do his work, he can't get inside unless they let him in
- He was a failed Glam Rock musician, you can see clues to his past on the basement and his constant rock singing
- It's a deal, he gives souls and deaths to the devil in worship, so the devil gives him power
- He probably thinks he will be treated well in hell
Thought I was the only one who thought this. Felt like the movie was written by 3 different people, immediately went downhill after part 1
Longlegs and spiderlegs were my nicknames in high school because my legs, arms and fingers were and still are disproportionately long in comparison to the rest of my body. Since I was very into cryptids I loved it and very much enjoyed my status as the local slenderman. Can’t imagine what might’ve happened if this movie came out back then.
Pisses me off how most horror movies now are marketed as "scariest movie since x" or "cinema goers literally vomited and passed out trying to watch this" because it never lives up to that ridiculous hype
I swear comments like these are so bizarre. Are you a NPC? Why do ppl state the same fucking thing the video states than some how amass likes? Like wtf. Dead internet theory is real.
@robertc.5558 bro I can see other comments you make on this channel, everything makes you angry so I'm not surprised that my comment did 😂
@@robertc.5558 weird
@@robertc.5558 because people have opinions genius
@enoughabouteve maybe I'll clarify for once. Your comment is almost word for word pulled from the sentence spoken in the video. Than it garners likes. So, no original thought? Tik tok caused brain rot where you hear a statement than parot it assuming it was an original idea? Now, let's say you're the exception, have you never seen it either? With 60% of online traffic being bots nowadays you can't tell if it's a bot, or someone with such massive brain rot and the inability to have one's own original thought is flabbergasting lmfao. Call it what you will.
Lots of mixed feelings about this one, especially the 3rd act. The feeling of dread and anxiety throughout was incredibly well done, and I thought Mika Monroe and Cage were really great. It did feel a bit like they couldn’t quite tie all the threads together at the end so they just chalked everything up to Satan. Don’t get me wrong, the “blink and you miss it” glimpses of Satan sprinkled in were so creepy and really added to the tension. I’m not personally sure what other direction they could have taken, but “uhhh it’s the devil!” feels a little underwhelming.
18:32 that’s a guitar case with the suitcase he’s holding. Hence he’s a musician.
Yea, he has a Flying V in his room like the one Bolan plays in a video
Nic cage mentioned in an interview that his character is a former glam
Rock star and his face is the result of bad plastic surgery to try stay relevant! Cool little detail
@@Jessie161 👍
Before he was cast out of heaven, satan was the angel of music.
There was barely any investigating in this movie. "we need to decipher his letter. "
"Oh. I can magically read what he wrote "
"We need to look for him."
"Oh, he's at a bus stop. He called to let everyone know where he's at."
I don't think she can magically read what he wrote - she got the birthday letter from him with a decipher code of which symbol related to each letter of the card. I think she used that to figure out the rest
I would be okay with that if thats what happened. She grew up with long legs. She just knows how to read it because he taught her how to read it growing up.
@@kennethforman5265 wasn't there a whole scene of her deciphering the code using the bible? of course longlegs gave her the means to decipher the code on purpose so it was him that let her do it but i don't think she knew the code the whole time
@@kennethforman5265?????????????
@@pill0w648 sup?
It was just really "meh" I didn't really get enthralled with it as I did with the ad campaign which was phenomenal.
The last GOOD HORROR film ive seen was hereditary. That movie stuck with me for a long time
Same
I have been waiting for this one! Thanks, FoundFlix!
"I put on my long legs!"
It's a bit confusing at first but as I watched it again a couple of times it was really great, I understood more and more each time. Very good.
Still one of the few RUclips channels that doesnyt ask it's viewers for anything other than to like, subscribe and maybe share. No Patreon or RUclips Join. He doesn't ask for anything and is why I will always support and stay subscribed to this awesome channel!!
Hahahahaha that "Half psychic is better than no psychic" line in the movie made me laugh more than it should have. It's the kind of joke I would make in awkward situations to lighten the mood.
19:28... It IS allowed in the USA. Not sure why you said it in a fake manner like that
Exactly. The US has better freedom of religion laws than most countries
YES!!! Oh my gosh, I’ve been so excited to see your Ending Explained for this one!!!
😶@15:31 What the hell was that sound effect? I thought a bag or something had actually fallen in my house. 😄
Ikr!!!!!!
Maybe turn your volume down a bit as well haha
I am so glad I was near a room where my housemates were watching TV because that made me jump Hard 😂
@@edwardt.8704 😄Right?
It was an odd movie, and it left me feeling uneasy. Cage's death scene was...a lot.
I couldn’t agree more ! Was waiting for your review because you always deliver!
Keep these videos coming 😊
11:20 “And they pulled it out, and her eyes open” BAAHH 👻👻👻😭😭💀💀
Hell ya that’s what I am talking about I love this movie man so glad you covered it let’s go !!
I have been watching you content for so long now and i gotta say love your humour and style man also i was just watching Zearks video on longlegs and searched for more and here you are my fav youtuber ❤️
Been a long time watcher of foundflix and just discovered Zeark last night. I love his actually scary series
@@awesumtoast97 I discovered hik by his phobia vids series
I seen a different channel explaining this movie but it ain't hit like when you explain it
Was expecting a movie about spiders, got Nick Cage as a serial killer. I’m not disappointed
35 seconds ago is crazy
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My family is from there too!! Much love from the US!
I liked this movie. There’s a genre of “atmospheric horror“ movies that build off tension and atmosphere vs flat it scares. This movie may not check all the boxes but it’s a solid film.
I’ve been waiting for this review! I actually saw this movie.
i rewatch the interogation scene from time to time
when nic says
"There she is, the almost birtday girl"
always send chill down my spine
I can't wait to see you do the substance.
Why, was it supposedly good?
Silence of the Lambs, Sinister, and Twin Peaks are movies or TV shows that come to mind when I see this movie.
ohhhh yes i've been waiting for this one
I thought this was a spider movie.
😂
That’s another one that came out this year about a big spider, not to be confused with the Adam Sandler one with him being stuck with a large spider addicted to Nutella in space lol
Sting. Not to be confused with the singer Sting.
try watch sting and infested
I thought this was the third space jam
Is the audio crackling or are my headphones finally dying?
If you mean for the movie then it does that when he screams
neither. its satan.
👀I was just wondering the same thing???@Tyway
I think osgood perkins tried to create a horror movie with the uncomfortable atmosphere that movies like “the killing of a sacred deer” & “infinity pool” are known for creating, and possibly considered it the new secret formula for today’s horror genre, but he focused on that more instead of the storyline, which didn’t take much effort to come up with, so that’s why it disappointed some people unfortunately.
With all those agents getting killed around her, I can't imagine a single agent at the FBI who'd want her for a partner.
It seems Carter had to be somewhat affected the whole movie. He guided her to her mom and he allowed her to question Carrie Ann and Longlegs alone. It’s the only thing that makes sense given they found the case with the doll together. I mean he knew when his daughters birthday was and as soon as her mom showed up with the chest you’d think he would’ve know what it was and responded accordingly, he was even present for the interrogation when he said a person showed up with a gift from the church so I mean how would he allow his family to fall for it?
Definitely made room for a sequel
Both you and Elvis today with this movie...I need to go buy some popcorn.
Maybe im just not as big brained as everyone else but i thought it was a great straight forward scary movie. Not some metaphoric, deep thinking flick that usually comes out nowadays with a thousand different twist and turns. It was a solid horror film. Definitely one to remember.
This movie scared me like no other film has in a long time. Its definitely one of those films you can come to appreciate with more viewings. And see the details you missed. Lotta people talking about cage performance, he did great. But i think the mom was the way more scary and unnerving character by the end of the film.
This was overhyped and mid. It's okay to say it wasn't that great
That's fine, I can agree it was definitely over hyped. But I still thought it was a great film. That's just my opinion
Can you explain to me why you thought it was a good movie? I saw it in theatre and in my opinion it sucked ass. Probably in my top 5 worst “horror” movies.
@@goldenflower5035 in my 1st viewing before the 3rd act twist I thought the film was pretty predictable and boring. Especially the main characters acting. And longlegs character wasn't that scary to me at 1st, he was pretty funny to me. But after finishing the film on my 1st viewing and thinking about what I watched. The 3rd act actually destroyed me in a messed up way. At 1st I thought the daughter was the one working with longlegs, the mom being the real culprit was also very predictable. But the reasoning got to me. Alot of people say they didn't like the exposition dump in the 3rd act, but for me it freaked me out. The mom did all those horrible things to protect her daughter from the devil. But the whole time the devil was in full control of everything. He could've just took the daughter like the rest, but instead he wanted to twist the moms love and care for her daughter and turn it into something evil and sinister so he can play with religious families. He succeeded, by the end of the film you get to see what the devil actually does. By the end of the film you see the mom did all that stuff for nothing, she even says if the family doesn't die or any future victims don't die, her daughter will twist forever in hell. The devil basically makes the daughter kill her mom, and by the end of it you see with gun not shooting the doll, he was always in control he just wanted to toy and mess with these loving people and turn their love into something evil. And nothing can stop him. That's what I took from the ending. Like I said my 1st viewing I was thinking this girl is acting so boring but with the twist I see why she's acting that way and it's kinda sad and scary. Its that the devil was manipulating the whole time, Then longlegs character like I said at 1st viewing to me he seemed funny and goofy. But after thinking about what he's saying and the way he emotes, it's very messed up and scary to me. Then with the cop dad guy, to me it was kinda implied that he was very invested in the longlegs case to try to stop his family from being the next victims. But by the end of the film you see he failed and he falls under same thing as the other fathers. In those final 5 minutes of the film everything clicked for me. I was literally shouting at the TV for her to do something save the family. But then I notice it looks like everyone is paralyzed and possessed. And the way the dad talked to the wife. It was one of those moments while watching a film it actually felt like I couldn't breathe. The whole plot by the 3rd act clicked with me, it was that the devil always had control and nothing can or will stop him. And he was just having fun. That's why imo I thought it was a good horror film. But that's just my opinion. I Apologies for the long typing.
@@rayvonvelez3129you should never apologize for communicating your point in an intelligent, concise way.
Well said. I liked the movie a lot for the a lot of the same reasons you mentioned. How else do you explain such evil except with the touch of a supernatural evil.
I actually kind of liked that there were a bunch of loose ends. It's nice to not have everything just explained. Some stuff was explained outside of the movie since they created a whole ARG for it. I really enjoyed it, but I definitely didn't go into it thinking it was going to be a horror movie though and that probably helped.
Bahhh! We keep saving this one for spooky month.. I'll come back!
Thanks bud!!! Now we want The substance! We love you !!
I lowkey liked the vibe of this movie.
So I think this movie is really great. I think if you're willing to accept that the movie was NEVER "Seven" or "Silence of the Lambs," but it's actually been "Needful Things" the whole time. There is a lot to appreciate on repeat viewings. Everything is explainable and there are 2 distinct readings of the film (magic, or no magic), but I like the read that the devil orchestrated this entire set of events and was very successful in devastating many lives over several years. Lee's "psychic powers" are the devil nudging her in the right direction, etc etc.
I can’t wait to see the ending explained for Never Let Go it was pretty good but confusing at the same time
This was definitely a film that benefited from being seen in the theater. The silence in the beginning is so noticeable that when you finally see Longlegs is utterly terrifying. It's not a perfect film, but I really enjoyed it and can't wait to see the deleted scenes.
Love your videos and sense of humor ❤
YESSSS was waiting for you to make a vid on it. I personally give Longlegs 7.5/10, the constant uneasy feeling the entire time is what made me enjoy it not gonna lie. Ill agree with the ending feeling very disconnected. But still good plot twist though.
I can’t believe Longlegs was the Bay Harbour Butcher
Haha
the Doll-pleganger pun got me for about the same time you chuckled too, then I also had a disgusted sigh with myself.
I think a lot of ppl don't like it is expectations from the trailers and marketing. Try to limit your expectations and you'll enjoy stuff more. It's also weird how ppl seem to remember everything from a trailer but can't remember the exposition from the start of the movie just a bit ago or in general what they did last week.
Lastly, I think there's a disconnect with some filmmakers and the average audience member. Most ppl are too stuck in reality and don't have the energy or interest in the supernatural or surreal. Its goes over their head when they've lived their life being super analytical and critical. Or for the religious it may challenge their beliefs. And like the decade of cinemasins and other youtubers basically telling people how to think in 1-2 narrow ways to view a film... well it is how we get here.
"She's a bit low energy, isn't she..?" I'm cracking up quietly here...!😂😂😂
I really love the channel but I wish the commentary audio was a bit more polished matey
I saw this in the movie theater with one other person in another row. When I tell you that the tension was high for me. 😂
There would be moments where I would look around to see if the other person was trying to sneak up on me while watching this movie with all its tense moments.
This is the third video I've watched for any kind of take on why her gun is changed to a revolver in the last scene and only has 3 of 6 rounds. Anyone have thoughts? Her mother fires the shotgun 3 times a few scenes before. Could there be a connection?
Hello Mr Foundflix! Please cover “No One Gets Out Alive”. My friends and I watched it awhile ago and was genuinely very confused and would love your explanation and deep dive about the ending!
I didn't see any marketing for this movie and liked it. That said, if I saw the whole "scariest movie!!" thing, I probably would have skipped it. The vast majority of the time those movies are meh and not scary at all.
This is legit the earliest I’ve ever been for one of these videos and I’m so excited for it.
Lol been wanting for you to do this 🤣 this movie was wild lol
I absolutely love your videos. Been subbed for a long time and this is my first comment. Just wanted to say as a long time fan i love your content and appreciate you. :)
Very let down by this. I think it would have been way better if they dropped the satanic crap and just kept him as a serial killer. The trailer made me think it was gonna be way different. The movie wasn't really that scary, it was just weird honestly
You said it best, the supernatural shit ruined it
yea i felt the same. it had potential but the satanic stuff was too much and it kind of ruined my respect for the movie
Agreed, I thought it was pretty bad tbh
Can't disagree more. I think it was a great movie and those who didn't enjoy it, I feel bad they didn't. Longlegs was a good movie. Well paced and wasn't annoyingly shocking.
@@cynicalninaI feel like we have enough supernatural horror out there already, any additions need to be done REALLY well. I feel like some aspects of the movie were executed well, but not the supernatural elements. IMO, of course!
i never watch trailers, for any movie, they either spoil the best parts or mislead. It makes movies more enjoyable to go in blind!
I wanted to enjoy this movie as much as everyone else did, the concept was pretty good but I didn’t really enjoy the story. I can’t exactly pinpoint why.
Same.. I don't understand the hype 😅
I normally hate “scary” / horror movies but, I actually really liked this movie and I thought Nicolas Cage was really good in it. I don’t normally watch this genre of movie so I’m probably not the best person to decide whether or not this is a good horror movie. It had it’s flaws but, the vice and atmosphere, as well as the acting was good so I was willing to forgive some of it’s narrative sins.
Oh wow! It's my childhood crush Blair Underwood! So good to see him still doing his thing on the big screen! ❤
Loved this movie. Didn’t watch any trailers, knew nothing about it. Was such a great movie experience
Please Explain "after life" (2009) with liam neeson and Justin long.
I have been waiting for this video for a long time. What took you so long! 😂❤
Is there a way to bring back the time stamp to see how much longer the video is?
Or what ever the red line was called
Been waiting patiently for some new foundflix!
I didn’t love this movie but I certainly didn’t hate. It was absolutely interesting and intriguing and I’m glad I saw it in theaters.
Liked this movie. Nicholas Cage was so creepy, weird and unsettling as Longlegs
I’ve never really understood movie criticism of film where the plot isn’t spoon fed to you. Lingering questions isn’t a bad thing
I felt it was a metaphor for sexual assault and how that evil can destroy a family 8/10
No
What’s on your shirt? It’s so cool!
Awesome video as usual
“DOLLPERGANGER” was hilarious don’t sell yourself short hahaha
Him and the devil laughed because people usually sell their souls for fame (singer/longlegs) or money. It was a more amusing game to be played with her being a cop. Remember she originally wanted to be an actor.
@FoundFlix I wanted to tell you guys that I appreciate this channel so much. All the work you guys do in order to put out so many great details explaining a film, a variety of information related to making a film or even its connection to other concepts in cinema, as well as your own perspective of a film is also very much appreciated. I love films, and you guys feed my addictions. Thank you!
Now I Want To Make My Own Horror Movie!
@T.EX.T-ME-FoundFlix Yay!
My biggest issue with the ending is why didnt Lee try to shoot the doll BEFORE killing anyone