I bought my lift 29.5 in August, 60lbs 28.5 draw and I went through two sets of match strings before I switched to joeys strings. They warranted strings every time no complaint, just adding to the conversation. Also top limbs started to show stress cracks. All within 1500 arrows
Cycling the strings in the air stretcher was a big improvement for me vs static weight too. I have a timer that cycles it on/off every 5 minutes, usually for 2-3 hours. After about 30 minutes to an hour, ill hit the strings with low heat from a hair dryer, around 90-100 degrees. Burnish with a old rag to remove wax. I like to serve under alot of tension too, any twist that happen under the servings, eventually wants to work itself out.
They are supposed to open a bunch more TAC events next year. The founder was on a podcast recently and said they are going to have a lot more events next year.
I have that same problem. Kind of Tim. I've been trying to work on that too but I don't think I just realized it until now. I've been aiming different ways in like trying to focus on my pin more, but I think you just help me put something into perspective. Thank you!
I'm glad you guys mentioned the Match strings. I heard so many great things about the match strings before I got my Lift and I've been pretty disappointed in them. In the last couple months I've had to time my bow twice and adjust for peep twist twice. After TAC in Indiana I'll be going to a set of the VEC99 from Catfish.
A3 - Small Company, amazing strings Bloodline, one solid colour, light colours, less dye. Reserve a new string always, center serving, with Levi Morgan's center serving lock-in technique. Hands down the best way, never moves or separates
Did Big Sky last year and South Dakota this year and we enjoyed SD much more, vender village right outside the lodge, then practice range only a few yards past the village, Deadwood was only a few minutes away lots of food and entertainment options, and SD is very affordable. We flew from Ca to Denver and drove 5 hrs up to the Black Hills.
Fantastic episode as always guys. Thank you for being authentic and sharing that you’re not always automatic. It’s challenging and frustrating at times as well.
I have a lift 33 and my match strings have peep rotation. I added two twist to the string and put s peep tuner in the string but there is still rotation.
Guys please come to VT next year we will see you in PA as well but I promise you a lot of us from the north east would love to see you in VT as well!!!
Vapor trail strings are great I had one break like Josh said everyone has a bad one and they shipped me a brand new one and was there the next afternoon! I have a bowtech rpm 360 that punches strings and the set of vapor trails that’s on it has probably 5k to 6k shots through them! I wanna try gas but vapor trail has been so great and reliable and customer service unmatched it’s hard to steer away from them! If u haven’t gave them a try I promise they are great!
Great video ! Enjoyed all the content especially about the concerns about the Match strings. I've two sets on my Lift since February. Going back to Gas myself! Cheers boys!
I tested 4/5/6mm arrows in a 35mph wind. 500gr 4mm w 225gr up front, 461gr 5mm, w 225gr up front, and 420gr 6mm with 115gr up front. The wind drift was 20" shooting from 45yrds on the 6mm. I'd love to see you test wind drift with different arrows/vane configurations
I have found that doing a proper bench press where you drop your shoulders and arch your back on the bench, that you can push more weight while focusing on the Peck muscle. What I have found is because I am contracting the scaps in and down hard, it helps me stabilize my bow arm better and helps with my string arm on the pull back.
Three great channels right there. I will say my Lift 33 strings stretched. I was really hoping they were better than the Zebra strings. I can't give the Match strings a high review. I will be purchasing GAS strings from now on. I love my Lift bow, but the strings are the weak link.
Just went on and bought myself a pack of 125s and a pack of 100 grain beast broadheads. Thank you guys for mentioning that. I've been wanting to try them and I wouldn't rather buy them from anybody but you had to use the pump station discount though
Money is way more tight right now than it was at the same time in 2023. My local shop, a pretty large one, says archery sales are down pretty sharp compared to last year. They are cutting back staff hours and running all sorts of social media events trying to drum up revenue. Yes, some folks still have money to spend on TAC at Big Sky, but a vast majority of blue collar archers are cutting back on costs for sure.
If you’re flying all the way to PA, consider VT the week before. It would be so easy to shoot on course content there. I heard more events for TAC next year
MFJJ. I bought a set of gas from you online. Had a hell of a time getting my ATA phase 4 33. They had to send me a new set after one year of shooting my bow.
Mfjj do some testing on a left helical with a right bevel broadhead vs them being in the correct orientation. How much lost of momentum after impact would you get, with the broadhead wanting to change the direction of arrow flight.
I would be interested to see MFJJ do a review on an xpedition xlite. I know that they had a booth at TAC Big Sky and they also come with ABB platinum series strings from the factory.
Rangefinder trick… keep holding it down so it’s in scan mode so you can confirm what you’re trying to hit as it moves around rather than pressing several times to try to verify
Now if my guess is and assumptions might be right and the bow disciples crew is there as well. Dude I'm going to be mind blown if I get to meet all of my number ones that's hard to put like another number on it because I look for a video from every one of yous every time I go on RUclips. So I don't know. Maybe whenever I get to meet some people in person I'll be like I don't know. I kind of like him a little better. Pat, I'm curious if the bow disciple crew will be there?
Y’all’s content was peak when you all were together. It’s time to move on and have one main channel that highlights you all as a group, then have all your other individual channels. Grow the main account and have 300k+ followers in a year then in return your individual channels will grow. Go get Jake wherever the heck he is, pay the man. Have Jake and Dan primarily doing the elk hunting, Tim and Josh hunting too and taking care of camp. You all need each other, each of you has a role and you all could be something special. Please have mercy on us all.
I'm stoked about this podcast between Tim and Dan. I hope that I don't know. It seems like they've never just come back together yet. Maybe this will put them together. Tim looks a little nervous right here in the beginning though. Anyways, I hope you guys have a good podcast. I know I'm going to have a great time listening to it. Thank you!
In PA for some reason at most of the boost nobody will sell you any merchandise. They'll ship it to you. You can't buy anything there. Dang near. I mean Lancaster will and a couple of the other shops but most of the product boosts they don't want to sell you anything. It's all for display and they'll ship it to you. I hope you would be selling stuff. Get your Joe's over trailer that you sell. The main things that you know go
Elevation is not the thing that changes, its actually barometric pressure. You can be at a high elevation that is currently in a low pressure system and a low elevation location in a high pressure system and they could damn near be the same. Long range rifle shooters use baro because thats the relevant metric. Everyone is carrying a smart phone that will tell you the pressure where you are or the nearest weather station. Learn to document that and at what point does it start to effect your flight.
Match strings re complete shit. The zebra strings are way better. Zebra atleast settled although the serving sucked. Mathew’s pissed me off with those garbage match strings. My timing was 1/4” off after the strings should have been settled. And that happened during an Asa. Over 1000 arrows they were still stretching.
Dude you guys just made me grab my phone like oh shit whenever you said PA Dan you said PA and I'm like oh my God and then mfjj said it. I'm like hoe. My dream is coming true. I can't wait. I hope you guys are going to be there. Are you going to be there on the first day? I usually shoot Thursday but I'm planning on trying to shoot like Thursday and Friday or maybe Friday and Saturday. I definitely want to see you guys. I hope you be there all weekend. If you make that trip maybe you'll get more information out way closer next year I'm sure. But that is awesome my men and Tim, if you're about to say yes to, I'm even more stoked but I hit comment button before you could get to that
I hope this was as healing for Timmy and Dan as it is for the rest of us RUclips subs. The world is whole again❤
It's awesome to see you guys back together on the youtubes GOOD STUFF!!
Outstanding gentlemen! It is great to see all three of you back in the open friendly forum again. I really enjoyed this fire side chat.
The three amigos makes me happy 🙌🏾
I love Josh but every tac it’s either I din’t really set this bow up, my timings off, my eyes are going. 😂 All jokes aside another great pod!
Was awesome adding Dan to a long form convo about archery with people he has rapport with. Great pod guys!
I bought my lift 29.5 in August, 60lbs 28.5 draw and I went through two sets of match strings before I switched to joeys strings. They warranted strings every time no complaint, just adding to the conversation. Also top limbs started to show stress cracks. All within 1500 arrows
Cycling the strings in the air stretcher was a big improvement for me vs static weight too. I have a timer that cycles it on/off every 5 minutes, usually for 2-3 hours. After about 30 minutes to an hour, ill hit the strings with low heat from a hair dryer, around 90-100 degrees. Burnish with a old rag to remove wax. I like to serve under alot of tension too, any twist that happen under the servings, eventually wants to work itself out.
They are supposed to open a bunch more TAC events next year. The founder was on a podcast recently and said they are going to have a lot more events next year.
Its good to see you all back together. Keep up the great work.
I have that same problem. Kind of Tim. I've been trying to work on that too but I don't think I just realized it until now. I've been aiming different ways in like trying to focus on my pin more, but I think you just help me put something into perspective. Thank you!
Bring the boys to Michigan TAC, would love to meet the crew and have some beverages!
Been waiting for this one!
Let's go.....seven springs....super excited..
I'm glad you guys mentioned the Match strings. I heard so many great things about the match strings before I got my Lift and I've been pretty disappointed in them. In the last couple months I've had to time my bow twice and adjust for peep twist twice. After TAC in Indiana I'll be going to a set of the VEC99 from Catfish.
I was so glad to see Dan and Tim in the same room again. I have nothing but respect for both and I think they were better together.
A3 - Small Company, amazing strings
Bloodline, one solid colour, light colours, less dye.
Reserve a new string always, center serving, with Levi Morgan's center serving lock-in technique.
Hands down the best way, never moves or separates
See you guys next year in PA!!!
I love how Tim always pushes people to self reflect.
Did Big Sky last year and South Dakota this year and we enjoyed SD much more, vender village right outside the lodge, then practice range only a few yards past the village, Deadwood was only a few minutes away lots of food and entertainment options, and SD is very affordable. We flew from Ca to Denver and drove 5 hrs up to the Black Hills.
Fantastic episode as always guys. Thank you for being authentic and sharing that you’re not always automatic. It’s challenging and frustrating at times as well.
Y’all need to come down to Oklahoma TAC. Miss all the guys at the shop.
never know
I have a lift 33 and my match strings have peep rotation. I added two twist to the string and put s peep tuner in the string but there is still rotation.
Long overdue guest. Tim certainly seemed nervous in the beginning but settled in nicely. Well done trifecta.
Agree 100 on those Match Strings I went through 2 sets in roughly 1500 shots switched to aftermarket(A3bloodline) all my issues are gone
Guys please come to VT next year we will see you in PA as well but I promise you a lot of us from the north east would love to see you in VT as well!!!
Vapor trail strings are great I had one break like Josh said everyone has a bad one and they shipped me a brand new one and was there the next afternoon! I have a bowtech rpm 360 that punches strings and the set of vapor trails that’s on it has probably 5k to 6k shots through them! I wanna try gas but vapor trail has been so great and reliable and customer service unmatched it’s hard to steer away from them! If u haven’t gave them a try I promise they are great!
Great video ! Enjoyed all the content especially about the concerns about the Match strings. I've two sets on my Lift since February. Going back to Gas myself! Cheers boys!
I tested 4/5/6mm arrows in a 35mph wind. 500gr 4mm w 225gr up front, 461gr 5mm, w 225gr up front, and 420gr 6mm with 115gr up front. The wind drift was 20" shooting from 45yrds on the 6mm. I'd love to see you test wind drift with different arrows/vane configurations
I have found that doing a proper bench press where you drop your shoulders and arch your back on the bench, that you can push more weight while focusing on the Peck muscle. What I have found is because I am contracting the scaps in and down hard, it helps me stabilize my bow arm better and helps with my string arm on the pull back.
Enjoyed the whole conversation great job guys.
What strings come stock on the Darton consequence
Three great channels right there. I will say my Lift 33 strings stretched. I was really hoping they were better than the Zebra strings. I can't give the Match strings a high review. I will be purchasing GAS strings from now on. I love my Lift bow, but the strings are the weak link.
Just went on and bought myself a pack of 125s and a pack of 100 grain beast broadheads. Thank you guys for mentioning that. I've been wanting to try them and I wouldn't rather buy them from anybody but you had to use the pump station discount though
Definitely hope Dan shows up again soon!
Im glad your finally coming to pa tac next year. If your gonna shoot with subscribers put me on the list.
I'm still listening. I'll go buy one here in the next couple weeks
Cool discussion.
Edit the size 15s out 🤣🤣 great info !
Money is way more tight right now than it was at the same time in 2023. My local shop, a pretty large one, says archery sales are down pretty sharp compared to last year. They are cutting back staff hours and running all sorts of social media events trying to drum up revenue. Yes, some folks still have money to spend on TAC at Big Sky, but a vast majority of blue collar archers are cutting back on costs for sure.
If you’re flying all the way to PA, consider VT the week before. It would be so easy to shoot on course content there. I heard more events for TAC next year
MFJJ. I bought a set of gas from you online. Had a hell of a time getting my ATA phase 4 33. They had to send me a new set after one year of shooting my bow.
Mfjj do some testing on a left helical with a right bevel broadhead vs them being in the correct orientation. How much lost of momentum after impact would you get, with the broadhead wanting to change the direction of arrow flight.
Josh's shirt: 10/10
Distance between targets I believe is on purpose to prevent back ups at targets.
Its nice that Tim is really getting settled into his Ron Jeremy stage of life 😂
Great podcast. So Bodie stated that he squeezed not pulled. Pull through the shot or squeeze???????
I would be interested to see MFJJ do a review on an xpedition xlite. I know that they had a booth at TAC Big Sky and they also come with ABB platinum series strings from the factory.
Rangefinder trick… keep holding it down so it’s in scan mode so you can confirm what you’re trying to hit as it moves around rather than pressing several times to try to verify
LFG BOYS!
Now if my guess is and assumptions might be right and the bow disciples crew is there as well. Dude I'm going to be mind blown if I get to meet all of my number ones that's hard to put like another number on it because I look for a video from every one of yous every time I go on RUclips. So I don't know. Maybe whenever I get to meet some people in person I'll be like I don't know. I kind of like him a little better. Pat, I'm curious if the bow disciple crew will be there?
About time!
Y’all’s content was peak when you all were together. It’s time to move on and have one main channel that highlights you all as a group, then have all your other individual channels. Grow the main account and have 300k+ followers in a year then in return your individual channels will grow. Go get Jake wherever the heck he is, pay the man. Have Jake and Dan primarily doing the elk hunting, Tim and Josh hunting too and taking care of camp. You all need each other, each of you has a role and you all could be something special. Please have mercy on us all.
please have Dan on again. He is a wealth of knowledge just like Josh (the mad man with a bow) As always, awesomeeeeeeeeeee
Rumor is, Big Sky Tac is moving to Red Lodge next year
Tim and Dan should be doing some collaborations on both their RUclips channels
The crew back together!?
Let’s go !
I seen these 3 faces and clicked faster then a hoyt shoots hahaha.
Josh, be careful getting LASIK or PRK. Sounds like you are having issues in low light. After I got PRK, my low light vision went to shit. Best.
I'm stoked about this podcast between Tim and Dan. I hope that I don't know. It seems like they've never just come back together yet. Maybe this will put them together. Tim looks a little nervous right here in the beginning though. Anyways, I hope you guys have a good podcast. I know I'm going to have a great time listening to it. Thank you!
Im wishing they had a realistic tac.. I don't want to be lobbing arrows at 115 yards.. I want an 80 and in.. shots you'd actually take
Love how elkshape talked shit about Tim on a prior video yet here we are.
So pro Tim C for being the bigger person
What did Dan say about Tim?
Most of them Fords all the trainees get rebuilt between 75 and 125
In PA for some reason at most of the boost nobody will sell you any merchandise. They'll ship it to you. You can't buy anything there. Dang near. I mean Lancaster will and a couple of the other shops but most of the product boosts they don't want to sell you anything. It's all for display and they'll ship it to you. I hope you would be selling stuff. Get your Joe's over trailer that you sell. The main things that you know go
😂I bought 3 rest from you😂
I won’t rest until you all make one channel and have brought back Jake
thoughts on catfish custom strings?
I have used them on 3 bows and they were excellent in every way. I highly recommend them.
Finally Dan on the pod let's go!
Unique Corners
MFJJ it may be more of the cornea health with your eyes/ dryness. I would try some eye drops to see if that helps at all.
Elevation is not the thing that changes, its actually barometric pressure. You can be at a high elevation that is currently in a low pressure system and a low elevation location in a high pressure system and they could damn near be the same. Long range rifle shooters use baro because thats the relevant metric. Everyone is carrying a smart phone that will tell you the pressure where you are or the nearest weather station. Learn to document that and at what point does it start to effect your flight.
The match strings are garbage. They go out of time all the time. Glad to hear someone actually say it!
Savanah Shore
Buckridge View
Etha Freeway
Anyone had problems with limbs cracking on Mathews Lift @ 80lbs?
Jadon Lake
Orland Road
80 lbs 80% lift. I just had to time my cams again
This was nice to see . Life's too short.
Dewayne Road
Harvey Gardens
Match strings re complete shit. The zebra strings are way better. Zebra atleast settled although the serving sucked. Mathew’s pissed me off with those garbage match strings. My timing was 1/4” off after the strings should have been settled. And that happened during an Asa. Over 1000 arrows they were still stretching.
I don't understand why bow companies sell a bow for 1000 plus and then include the cheapest strings. Why can't they just upgrade them to better ones.
Quinton Track
Retta Lock
Dude you guys just made me grab my phone like oh shit whenever you said PA Dan you said PA and I'm like oh my God and then mfjj said it. I'm like hoe. My dream is coming true. I can't wait. I hope you guys are going to be there. Are you going to be there on the first day? I usually shoot Thursday but I'm planning on trying to shoot like Thursday and Friday or maybe Friday and Saturday. I definitely want to see you guys. I hope you be there all weekend. If you make that trip maybe you'll get more information out way closer next year I'm sure. But that is awesome my men and Tim, if you're about to say yes to, I'm even more stoked but I hit comment button before you could get to that
MFJJ what year is your truck ?.
Mayert Hill
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Zoe Ports
Grant Drive
Yall need to check out Unbound Archery bloodline strings. Cant beat em. 1 guy making them.
Mosciski Ports
Only watching this because saw Dan was in it Tim lost me complaining about Dan.
🍿Tim and Dan were complete fire when they were together, I just wish they saw it and wanted it to work as much as everyone else…
Well when people can’t agree on numbers it gets really complicated real quick
Glad to see Slash and Axl back together
I call bs this was all AI generated. everyone knows Tim and Dan got mad beef. Deepfake
MFJJ always with the excuses.
This was awkward. Tim and Dan still obviously hate each other.
Very true. Tim tried to burn Dan. I only watched this to see how Dan reacted. I will NEVER follow Tim. Josh shouldn't even work with him.
This podcast interview reminded me on how much Dan just doesn’t “fit” in with Josh & Tim. Dan by himself 👍, but Dan with other people 👎.