Now that I've started posting full-effort videos on this channel, I'm beginning to wonder whether or not I should take down this video. To be clear, I do really like this video and am quite proud of it, but it certain isn't at the same standard as the other two videos I have out currently. This video was just a high school project, nothing more really. I didn't fully research the subject, and thus, am lacking any mention of the new 10-year plan or Transport 2050. One last thing that bugs me about this video is the fact that I use a lot of content that is not my own. A lot of the SkyTrain and Bus footage was just taken off the internet without credit and I would much rather take my own shots. If I do end up taking down this video, rest assured that I'll eventually cover the topics again in the future with my typical style. Let me know what you think of this and whether or not this video should stay up. Thanks!
Keep this video!! It's extremely well edited and scripted for your first video and is a cute relic from the past. You can always make an updated version you're more happy with, but definitely keep this one!! It's what got me to your channel.
This is neat, I like where you are going with this. As for extending from what you already show us, there are mentions of a new SkyTrain Line from Northern Vancouver to the rest of Vancouver called the North Vancouver Line. Here is how I would make it: - Phase 1: - North Vancouver: Dollarton to Canada Highway - Expo: Hastings St extension from Waterfront to Canada Highway - Phase 2: - North Vancouver: Canada Highway to Metrotown Your thoughts?
@@shadowmamba95 I'm definitely a big fan of the concept of a North Shore SkyTrain and it seems TransLink is too. If you've been keeping up with TransLink news then you may have heard of their 3 BRT corridors which includes an extension of the R2 RapidBus from North Van to Metrotown but more importantly, that it would provide a sample for potential future upgrades to SkyTrain/LRT/BRT. I think the route TransLink outlined for the new R2 would be ideal for a North Shore SkyTrain. Connecting the Second Narrows to Willingdon via Hastings especially since it would serve the Burnaby Heights neighbourhood and later connect to the Millennium line at Brentwood. I think TransLink is definitely moving in the right direction with these plans, I just hope they don't give in to the backlash in Burnaby Heights. Thanks for your comment!
I'm happy with the success of your high school project. If you were to remake this video, then I would prefer that you keep this up, so that we can compare.
If you are taking requests, then maybe turn these topics into videos? 1) Use 74 Ave as a quiet side street for a greenway for cyclists. 2) Convert some empty parking spaces in Newton in front of Michael's into retail space with offices on the 2nd floor, and flexible space on the 3rd floor, and residential space on the 4th and 5th floors. If you like these topics, then let me know. We can discuss it to prepare.
DO NOT DELETE THIS VIDEO. It's an excellent video that should be compulsory, for "city planners" in Vancouver and Toronto, to watch. One phrase that I like is "why implement the new line?, it's because it worked in the past". Yes we had electric cars (streetcars) which were dismantled by city politics interests in making money not to serve citizens.
Thank you for finally including the Tsawwassen terminal! Victoria Residents hate taking our cars to Vancouver (and paying $250). I would love a sky train, but a tram will do!
I made an extensive video on a similar topic years back and we largely have very similar ideas, indeed! I hope they become a reality one day. Great video!
Victoria absolutely deserves better transit and it’s great to see that BC Transit got some decent funding in this year’s budget! One thing you guys just got that we would love is those incredible in-bus displays!
If your streetcar plan includes the Arbutus greenway you might find a lot of local opposition. Since it was converted to a cycle/pedestrian pathway it's become very popular and I'd expect a lot of people wouldn't want to lose that.
I understand the natural opposition for transit in the west end, but the real plan for the Arbutus corridor is to have both. A green track streetcar alongside the cycle and pedestrian path, and soon some businesses at parts.
@@TheGreaterDiscussions sounds good, but there are parts that are too narrow for both and I'm not sure how happy walkers will be wedged between a bike lane and huge streetcars. But who knows - there does need to be better public transport (north to south) in Van West.
Awesome video! Seeing the overlap between the tram and expo line was news to me too. As a former SFU alumni working at SkyTrain, there are a lot of plans currently in place and work done by capital project planners to project future ridership. New maintenance bays being built to serve these expansion projects and MK V trains to start rolling out this year which holds more capacity too! Interesting take on introducing trams into our network which is definitely less upfront cost but work require different infrastructure to maintain and service.
I’ll definitely be covering the SkyTrain expansion program here sometime in the future. There’s so much going on with that, I gotta talk about it! Not entirely sure I agree with my tram points now though. The Surrey corridor is getting BRT which is definitely the best of both worlds, although the arbutus corridor should still probably get LRT imo. All comes down to funding I suppose
Great video! And white rock is very underserved for something as developed as it is. I live within eye shot of it across the border and learning how that whole area isn’t linked via rapid transit is widl
Thank you! I’m very pleased to report that in the time since this video was uploaded that TransLink announced a plan for a BRT route from White Rock to North Surrey which will be incredible! Like an LRT without the tracks. You should check out my standalone video on White Rock and its housing market! It’s got a lot more info on White Rock in its recent years, which I’d love to hear your input on given your proximity to it (I assume Blaine?).
You left out Pitt Meadows and Maple Ridge! When the evergreen extension was built they actually put in a switch before Coquitlam Central so that the skytrain could be extended out to Ridge. The Pitt River Bridge was also built and designed to accommodate a future skytrain expansion👍🏻
Very true! I also forgot any upgrades to the North Shore which would fall in line with Transport 2050. When I revisit this topic in the future I’ll be sure to talk about all of it!
I used to be on the transportation committee in MR. We also struggle with access to the rest of Metro Vancouver, even with the new rapid line. Another member of the committee and I were talking about plans for getting a passenger ferry route going up and down the Fraser again. Not only would it be utilizing easily navigable water ways, but bypassing road traffic all together
I think that it would be a way better option, especially in terms of higher speed travel to hubs with direct community connections, or at least for the higher density Metro Vancouver area specifically. MR is currently limited with one connection via bridge to the West, and one more bridge to the South. Our only other option is to head East into Mission. As a growing population centre with a horrible design for commerce & career centres, all of our necessities require traveling through multiple bottlenecks. Adding another dimension of travel throughout the Fraser Valley via the waterways would alleviate a lot of our current struggles in passing funding & agreements for other transit options (typically due to community concerns towards just adding to traffic)
The problem with trams over skytrain is that you have to pay a driver and capacity is lower. For example, it might be more worth expanding the Canada line to 4 cars due to savings on operating cost over time and future planning. People like the skytrain, so it's easier to obtain the capital cost if there's public demand while politicians might see it as a better investment if it lowers operational cost over time and you can build more housing along it. I suspect TransLink might be more focused on replacing busy rapid bus lines with skytrain rather than new tram lines.
Great video. I think the only thing that I would add, is some kind of transit to the warehouse districts in the southern park of Richmond, or towards Tilbury Park in Delta. Transit to Tilbury Park in particular is poor, and it is less than ideal in the Steveston area before you cross over into Delta. A Canada Line stop at Steveston would be a huge upgrade for the warehouse workers in that area, even if it is still a 10 minute walk to get to work. At least once you get off of work, you'd have a much more reliable way to get home. Tilbury Park, transit sucks even at the best of times, but it's basically non-existent at night. There are plenty of warehouses running 24/7 in Steveston and Tilbury, I've worked at a few of them. Perhaps a BRT route that would run from a theoretical Steveston Canada Line station, through Tilbury Park, and connecting to one of the Surrey Expo Line stations, or the proposed LRT line, would provide a fast, frequent, and reliable way to get to work for warehouse workers in that area. Even though I do have a vehicle, for a morning shift, traffic in and around the Massey Tunnel is often terrible, so a reliable transit connection would probably have me taking transit, instead of driving. And having any night time transit connection to Tilbury would open up job opportunities for those who currently don't have particularly good options at the moment.
Metro Vancouver’s Night Bus network as a whole needs a lot of work! Unfortunately there’s no investments being made for the operations of such services at the moment
Cool video - I'd like to hear more about why you support LRT vs elevated or tunnelled. LRT is cheaper, yes, but in cities like Calgary and Edmonton they cause accidents and traffic delays.
To be honest, this was a relatively low-researched school project that was going off of biases I've had for years. Now that I am much more involved with transportation conversations, I definitely stray farther from the light rail support train (pun intended). Surrey in particular doesn't seem like the good fit for LRT I thought it was but luckily since this video was uploaded, TransLink has announced that exact White Rock-Guildford corridor will be getting BRT which is a MUCH better choice. I still believe the Arbutus-Steveston corridor is still fit for LRT. The densest stretches are completely separated from the road and the population isn't drastic enough for full SkyTrain just yet, but if nothing else it could serve as a study for future SkyTrain upgrades in the future.
I like the idea of bringing the streetcars back for the downtown area but I really don't like the long suburban extension. Streetcars aren't particularly fast- when running on or next to a road they can't go faster than the road that they're next to. The reason why the Skytrain lines are so popular and effective is that they're very fast- they average a high enough speed to be competitive with, or be even faster than driving. A tram wouldn't have the same speed advantages due to the proximity to the street and the number of crossings (it averages half of the speed of the Expo line) and would therefore be much less competitive than driving. This means that trams provide a local transit service rather than regional transit. I also think the WCE deserves more respect, especially for connecting the areas of the fraser valley.
I totally agree! Although I think the Arbutus Line would do a good job at being well separated, I do imagine a Steveston extension would be difficult to run competitively with regular SkyTrain service, although unfortunately Richmond's population doesn't warrant full SkyTrain service as of current projections. Maybe a BRT would be a decent solution short term instead. And stay tuned for a video on the WCE later this year! I'm just getting started on that front!
The 2012 South of Fraser Rapid Transit Study looked into a bunch of options and LRT was about 4x the capital cost for almost no service improvements over a BRT and the plan Linda Hepner wanted, the LRT plan, was the only one that had a negative ROI. What's being built today is closer to option RRT1A and had one of the best ROIs in the study.
I personally think Surrey dodged a bullet by not putting in light rail. It's slow, expensive, and doesn't move a lot of people. Vancouver is better off converting proven rapidbus lines into grade separated Skytrain lines, starting with a North Shore line to Metrotown through Brentwood and continuing on down 41st Ave to UBC. Next would be a line down Hastings from the new line serving the PNE and ending in the West End.
I definitely agree. Now that I've done a lot more research on transit projects worldwide, I am quite relieved that TransLink prioritized the Surrey-Langley SkyTrain. Besides, we're even getting an extended BRT corridor to White Rock because of it!
Agreed! North Van to Burnaby (Park Royal to Metrotown) route is greatly needed. This is biggest bottleneck in Metro Vancouver right now. I usually need 3.5hrs to get to and come home for a 15min appt in North Van from Burquitlam. They need to extend the R2 RapidBus first and right away and then seriously work on the SkyTrain in this area.
We dodged a bullet because we, citizens of Surrey, didn't want LRT on King George or 104th. We got out and voted! LRT has its place however Rapid Bus works pretty well. King George is much better suited to BRT.
I too want to become a transit planner, one of my big worries is that the millennium line will be extended to ubc via 10th and not 8th/university blvd/wesbrook mall, which would cut off an extension along 41st to replace the r4
Great video. A few suggestions: rather than the proposed arbutus going to steveston and extending the Canada line to Delta (requiring significant back tracking and reducing top speeds), I'd suggest extending the Canada line to steveston (via Westminster highway and railway ave) and the arbutus line to Delta (via garden city, Williams rd and then highway 99 and 17). I'd also suggest making the arbutus line full skytrain (the Provincial TOD policies mean that lack of density isn't a justification for not providing the speed and reliability that only skytrain provides). A final quibble, but more stations in Tsawwassen would be good. Especially Salish Sea drive and tsawwasen drive, connecting the Tsawwassen First Nation to rapid transit and furthering reconciliation. Finally, I'd suggest a spur line to Tsawwassen town centre with an alignment of 56st, with stations at (roughly) 16th avenue and 12th avenue.
@@TheGreaterDiscussionsit's also probably worth considering a highway 99 alignment in Richmond. Yes, it probably has lower ridership potential due to limited TOD opportunity, but it's the shortest distance to traverse Richmond (by about 3-4km by my estimation). And it would not create much improved access in Richmond due to limited opportunity for stations. But it would be much faster due to limited stopping and thus more time at top speeds, plus about 3-4km less distance. It would probably save more than ten minutes compared to a garden city rd or no. 3 rd alignment. A highway 99 alignment would also facilitate lower costs due to fewer stations and the ability to build in the median of the highway (no expensive tunneling or elevation required). If light rail was chosen as the technology for the arbutus line, then I think a highway 99 alignment is ideal due to Higher speeds and Lower construction costs.
If we can spend so much money on building highways, we definitely have the money to invest and improve public transit. Public transit is a positive externality, and it saves people time and money, and is clean. ALL "city planners" should learn about induced demand - building better transit will increase its desirability, and the demand will increase as more people love transit. Its time we start planning and start building more lines to future proof cities.
It's wonderful to see you making content covering the place we both call home. Keep up the great work! By the way, what bass do you have in the background there? Just curious as I play too
While Victoria certainly doesn’t have the worst transit system of BC, it could still definitely use a lot of work. Could probably end up making a whole video about Victoria or something 😅
Great video. Tsawwassen terminal is a bit of an oddity. I do think Translink should invest in a semi high speed link between the ferry terminal, airport, and downtown, with suitable stops to intersect other transit options. Even if its expensive, in my opinion it is the better solution. LRT in my humble opinion will be a good solution for SE and SW marin drive. It badly needs superior transit and buses are not a great option. Moreover several pockets along the route are densifying rapidly.
I strongly believe we should be linking Horseshoe Bay Terminal (possibly like a northernmost terminus) as well as Tsawwassen Terminal to Greater Vancouver also.
Sounds great. If the ferry is dedicated exclusively to YVR, maybe you could clear security and customs before even getting on the ferry on Vancouver Island???
When I made this video, all I used was the Preview app on Mac with the markup tool. I’m hoping to have a much more professional setup for my next video haha 😅
I really don't buy the idea of street-level LRT working in Surrey on those very busy roads. I think Skytrain through Newton is a better idea. Maybe LRT could work in Vancouver though. There's an idea I've had that might work with your routes though. I've wondered if it might be possible to get the state of Washington to chip in some funds if the two routes going south in your plan were connected east and west, with lines going all the way to the border. That would create a transit route that would allow residents of Point Roberts to reach Blaine very conveniently and quickly, as well as letting people from Richmond and Tsawwassen to reach Surrey and White Rock. I think this could also have an affect on housing costs in Metro Van, because it would be easier for people to live farther from downtown in places that are currently not very populated, and still get around easily. People would start moving out of the denser cities and living farther out where homes are more affordable, in turn making homes in the denser areas less expensive by decreasing demand. What do you think?
6:02 that tunnel i will say it closed off now a days, quite freaky because this is quite close to where i am, if i wanted to i could just walk over there right now but it is quite far
Translink should take a page out of Metrolinx / GO Transit's book. Ther are currently turning Toronto's GO Train commuter rail lines into a fast, frequent, electric regional rail system with two way, all day, 5-15 minute service on most lines.
They really need to get ( something) out to at least Abbotsford. As someone who has to drive everywhere for work, seeing a better public transit that would take ( hell 20% off the road), would help out a lot. Then on weekends if i want to head into Vancouver for a show, i can use Public Transit the whole way. This is where all the carbon tax and such should go and not general coffers
Cascadia HSR is a fascinating project that’s definitely on my “make a video” list. But there’s not nearly enough information to make that video anytime soon
There’s one problem I have with your channel. Lack of subscribers. This channel is too underrated for such a good one run by a passionate Vancouverite transit enthusiast
Vancouver Sky train should be an example for the entire United States. That it should be elevated automative system. That it should have fewer stops that traditional light rail systems. For local services an automated street car system should be implemented. But streetcar do better if the mileage is under 5 miles. Than another automated SC system would take over. The SC should be no more than 100ft max. And service should be no less than 5 minutes during rush hour and 10 minutes other times.
I was mentally yelling at you the entire time, "CLOSE THE LOOP!" Traveling from Surrey to Richmond is essentially a big U-turn and it starts to feel so ridiculous taking it when the Surrey expo stations and the Richmond canada line stations are essentially running parallel to each other and crying out desperately for something to properly connect them.
Yes! Better connections between Surrey and Richmond are necessary! A lot of things I wasn’t aware of when I made this, but more express routes between Surrey/New West and Richmond are on the way!
IMO there's a lot of good ideas in this, however I still see one fatal flaw that all plans for our system have. It's still ALL about funneling people from suburb to downtown Vancouver, but we've got many downtown cores that have grown in the suburbs since the original Expo line came into being. No plans address this and the growing need for suburb to suburb travel, which means everyone who commutes those routes has no choice but to do it by single driver car. A Richmond to Surrey connection would go a long way to alleviating that. Along with a redundant east-west skytrain line operating along the south side of Vancouver to New West where it can link with the existing Expo line. Those 2 additions to your plans would go a long way to making the transit system a true alternative to cars rather then a to downtown Vancouver commuter system that it mostly is currently. This would both help give people a real alternative to cars as well as stimulate more suburban jobs growth, helping to further diversify our economy form being so dependent on one big urban centre.
100% agree. I wish I had done this video now instead of when I was in high school as I understand so much more about this stuff. One of the best lines that we might get in the future is the West Van-North Van-Metrotown line which would be an incredible orbital transit line! Upgrades to the current Brighouse-Surrey bus routes would definitely be needed too, especially as Surrey prepares for BRT and Surrey Langley SkyTrain
@@TheGreaterDiscussions Also the suburban bus routes really need to be simplified and adjusted to follow the main artery grid rather then weaving them through every side street, back alley and parking lot driveway they can find. I live in the Tri Cities and most routes are like that and barely anybody uses them. I don't have a car and when I need those routes, I usually just find a different place to go as it's just too confusing to keep track of what bus goes where when the same short street can have 5 different busses each serving a 2-4 block stretch of it while weaving on and off that street. In parts of Surrey and Burnaby where they have gridified the routes, ridership has visibly gone way up as busses become a way for pedestrians to use the streets in a vehicle that follows the major traffic patterns rather then doing weird stuff nobody really does if they're in a car.
@@Seriously_Unserious Generally I'd say the express bus network should be better in general. I'm not sure why we don't have some sort of express bus on every highway and major arterial road in the Metro area, it would really help round out a pretty decent transfer-based grid network.
@@TheGreaterDiscussions That's pretty much what they do in Vancouver, and south Burnaby/Metrotown area, as well as parts of Central Surry, and ridership is chronically very high in these areas.
With all due respect, the trouble with the Arbutus corridor is that most of the density and demand is to the east of Canada Line, not the west. There’s a lot to learn from the BCER but demands have drastically changed.
You're absolutely right. I would say that there should be a future effort to density the West as well, but that tends to be rather controversial. I do also believe the existence of an Arbutus line would generally assist in relieving the Canada Line. Unfortunately, this video was a school project that was not entirely researched and I slowly begin to disagree with some of my points as I look further into the topics. I'll likely cover these topics again with full research in the future and I greatly appreciate this feedback which will help me out with those future videos!
I liked your vid but I still think it’s incomplete. I think think there’s needs to another line perhaps starting at Metrotown going through Richmond close to knight street bridge past the tunnel to north delta/ Surrey. It makes no sense for commuters to have to always go through waterfront station to get to other parts of metro Vancouver. We also need HSR honestly, wear coat train should be changed to that from mission and we also need hsr connecting Langley centres new train station to Abbotsford and chilliwack. My dream project would be the train I suggested for Burnaby Richmond north delta to actually extend to north Vancouver and west Vancouver and ideally one day we get that to Squamish and whistler too. Then we will have world class transit. This all could be done if we weren’t sending every god forsaken dollar to shithole Toronto federally
I agree, this video is definitely incomplete (it was really just meant as a school project lol). I think if I included the plans used in Transport 2050 and the Access for Everyone plan that this would have been a much more well rounded video. As to your point about a train from West Van to Metrotown to Richmond, well, that's actually in the works!! Although right now it's just proposed as RapidBus, the R2 will be extended from North Van to Brentwood and Metrotown where it will connect to the future R7 from Metrotown to Brighouse. The R2 section will be a part of a study for a future SkyTrain, BRT or LRT project and if ridership is good on the R7, I could see it potentially doing the same. And when it comes to more regional rail well... I'll just say: Stay tuned ;)
@@TheGreaterDiscussionsI’m down to see the “Spirit Line” (North shore - Brentwood - Metrotown - UBC/Richmond) happen. Getting from North Van to UBC is way too much of a hassle as it is.
I forgot a lot of key neighbourhoods in this video. Better service around the township is needed and they’re working on a new Transportation and Mobility Strategy right now! I suggest you engage in their surveys and open houses in these coming weeks
Hello, I see now your video. I’m not from Vancouver so, actually I don’t know how is the city and the financial situation standing. However in your plans, I think, you are missing the fact that transport infrastructure costs a lot. That’s means that it has to get a lot of political support across the parties, as the party (or leaders) who finance and endures the negative effects of the building sites is not the one benefitting of its opening. Looking from a money point of view (at west European prices) we are talking values close to 15M€/km per double tram tracks and 1,5M€ per vehicle. In this sense I would find useful first to map all the dismissed infrastructure and than try to add individual the minimum amount of track required to reach some key destinations, and step by step expanding and joining routes.
You’re absolutely right about the money issue. It’s a reality we see everyday with bus routes in some districts becoming less and less frequent with TransLink’s lack of new funding. In the terms of this video, it was definitely a fantasy view of what my ideal system would look like, although I even disagree with that now hahaha
@@TheGreaterDiscussions I'm glad you liked my comment, would you mind if I "use you" to bounce some ideas, maybe can be useful or just to set some orders to half-ideas. One of the things that kind of upsets me is that often transport infrastructure is used to upgrade an already existing transport system while there are still urban and suburban areas which are not served. The current method is to say "if the line is successful replace with a higher level of infrastructure", which I think it's a silly practice because you end up serving the same individuals (with a more costly service) while disrupting the actual service in the hope of the improved service will pay-out before the next "improvement"starts, while completely ignoring the dynamic nature of business that have the natural incentive of relocating towards more accessible areas. I have read somewhere about the so called "pedestrian catchment area" and I think would be a better way to plan expansions. If an existing station is overcrouded you can overlap with another line while the rests of the lines covers other areas that are not served.
@@gabrielebianchi8976 I can definitely see what you're saying. Funnily enough, I believe the notion of "build what's needed now and upgrade later" happens to also come down to funding. Services like SkyTrain are remarkably efficient and just about the best a light metro system can get, but they are horrendously expensive-and Metro Van has actually done an incredible job at working down prices of these systems without significant compromises. I imagine BC's new plan for a vast increase in Transit-Oriented Development (TOD) will do wonders for this. Like you said with the pedestrian catchment area, TOD is a great way of generating service with high-density mixed-use housing within a 15 minute walking radius of the station. This effect can even be seen in Richmond, where TOD developments literally funded the new Capstan Canada Line station! Hopefully we'll see an increase in these new developments in the future, which can lead to more ambitious projects.
Great video but you should consider connections between the suburbs cities. Delta has very poor connections between South Surrey and South Delta. Some of the largest new developments in the South Surrey And the tfn lands both these large commercial developments and housing projects have no viable Transit connection between them with transfers required Stevenson Highway and 99, currently atrocious overpass🤮
The Delta area needs to be addressed especially for someone from Burnaby the time it takes to get there ranges from an hour to two hours and it varies by wait time and traffic. There aren't any fast Tsawassen Delta route connection from 22nd Street Station. It doesn't exist. And also the time it takes to get to White Rock and back is really exhausting to do in one day with Translink. Burnaby to YVR is also horrible too.
Everywhere south of the Fraser is tough to get to right now. I tend to joke that it takes an hour to get from Surrey to Surrey by bus, but it’s true. Thankfully there are plans to fix this
yeahhhhhhhh. My audio mixing definitely wasn't too great on this video. I hadn't initially intended for it to be released on RUclips. I think the microphone quality and music mixing is much better in my most recent video
@@TheGreaterDiscussions Thank you for replying. Can you post it without music? It looks like a good video that I'd like to watch. I'll look for your other videos.
I just checked and I don’t have the raw files for this video anymore. I do however have proper English captions across all of my videos, so if the music is ever a concern, you can still properly watch them like that
its because light rail sucks, to answer your question. transit needs to be scalable, not just buildable. foot the cost for the future, don't give us these stupid middle measures that are impossible to improve
Having learned a lot since this video went up, I really start to wonder where Light Rail actually fits. Streetcars can often be replaced with good quality buses (with priority) and full light rail lines can be leagues better with a greater investment into full metro. What do you think the best solution for the Arbutus corridor is?
Now that I've started posting full-effort videos on this channel, I'm beginning to wonder whether or not I should take down this video. To be clear, I do really like this video and am quite proud of it, but it certain isn't at the same standard as the other two videos I have out currently. This video was just a high school project, nothing more really. I didn't fully research the subject, and thus, am lacking any mention of the new 10-year plan or Transport 2050. One last thing that bugs me about this video is the fact that I use a lot of content that is not my own. A lot of the SkyTrain and Bus footage was just taken off the internet without credit and I would much rather take my own shots. If I do end up taking down this video, rest assured that I'll eventually cover the topics again in the future with my typical style.
Let me know what you think of this and whether or not this video should stay up. Thanks!
Keep this video!! It's extremely well edited and scripted for your first video and is a cute relic from the past. You can always make an updated version you're more happy with, but definitely keep this one!! It's what got me to your channel.
This is neat, I like where you are going with this.
As for extending from what you already show us, there are mentions of a new SkyTrain Line from Northern Vancouver to the rest of Vancouver called the North Vancouver Line.
Here is how I would make it:
- Phase 1:
- North Vancouver: Dollarton to Canada Highway
- Expo: Hastings St extension from Waterfront to Canada Highway
- Phase 2:
- North Vancouver: Canada Highway to Metrotown
Your thoughts?
@@shadowmamba95 I'm definitely a big fan of the concept of a North Shore SkyTrain and it seems TransLink is too. If you've been keeping up with TransLink news then you may have heard of their 3 BRT corridors which includes an extension of the R2 RapidBus from North Van to Metrotown but more importantly, that it would provide a sample for potential future upgrades to SkyTrain/LRT/BRT.
I think the route TransLink outlined for the new R2 would be ideal for a North Shore SkyTrain. Connecting the Second Narrows to Willingdon via Hastings especially since it would serve the Burnaby Heights neighbourhood and later connect to the Millennium line at Brentwood. I think TransLink is definitely moving in the right direction with these plans, I just hope they don't give in to the backlash in Burnaby Heights.
Thanks for your comment!
I'm happy with the success of your high school project. If you were to remake this video, then I would prefer that you keep this up, so that we can compare.
If you are taking requests, then maybe turn these topics into videos?
1) Use 74 Ave as a quiet side street for a greenway for cyclists.
2) Convert some empty parking spaces in Newton in front of Michael's into retail space with offices on the 2nd floor, and flexible space on the 3rd floor, and residential space on the 4th and 5th floors.
If you like these topics, then let me know. We can discuss it to prepare.
Fantastic video!
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Glad to see you fostering the youth’s passion
DO NOT DELETE THIS VIDEO. It's an excellent video that should be compulsory, for "city planners" in Vancouver and Toronto, to watch. One phrase that I like is "why implement the new line?, it's because it worked in the past". Yes we had electric cars (streetcars) which were dismantled by city politics interests in making money not to serve citizens.
Duly noted. Glad you enjoyed the video!
that's always the reason greed
Thank you for finally including the Tsawwassen terminal!
Victoria Residents hate taking our cars to Vancouver (and paying $250).
I would love a sky train, but a tram will do!
Yes there definitely has to be better ferry connections via transit! Hopefully BC Transit can start doing a lot more with their new funding
A true legend was born with this video. Keep up the good work.
Holy cow this is my first time seeing that a capstone project was useful for something 😂😂 great job!
I made an extensive video on a similar topic years back and we largely have very similar ideas, indeed! I hope they become a reality one day. Great video!
Hey, love to see your video. Im in grade 12 right now and don't know what to do for my CLC, your video inspired and gave me the idea
omg just finding your channel now!! Great video, excited to see what you make next!
Thank you very much! If you’re a fan of this video, I got a feeling you’ll like what I’ve got coming up 🙂
As somebody originally from Seattle, trust proper elevated rail like vancouver is better than light rail, but each one has its purpose 🙂
You have such a great energy! You should consider making more videos about urban planning in the future!
Thank you! That’s the plan, I hope you stick around to see them!
As someone from Victoria, Vancouvers transit system is already incredible in comparison.
Victoria absolutely deserves better transit and it’s great to see that BC Transit got some decent funding in this year’s budget! One thing you guys just got that we would love is those incredible in-bus displays!
@@TheGreaterDiscussionsthey spent most of their budget on Metro Vancouver back in the day.
If your streetcar plan includes the Arbutus greenway you might find a lot of local opposition. Since it was converted to a cycle/pedestrian pathway it's become very popular and I'd expect a lot of people wouldn't want to lose that.
I understand the natural opposition for transit in the west end, but the real plan for the Arbutus corridor is to have both. A green track streetcar alongside the cycle and pedestrian path, and soon some businesses at parts.
@@TheGreaterDiscussions sounds good, but there are parts that are too narrow for both and I'm not sure how happy walkers will be wedged between a bike lane and huge streetcars. But who knows - there does need to be better public transport (north to south) in Van West.
Great video explaining the TransLink system! Hope you get your R1 expansion to White Rock soon!
We're getting something even better!!! Full BRT!!!
Awesome video! Seeing the overlap between the tram and expo line was news to me too. As a former SFU alumni working at SkyTrain, there are a lot of plans currently in place and work done by capital project planners to project future ridership. New maintenance bays being built to serve these expansion projects and MK V trains to start rolling out this year which holds more capacity too! Interesting take on introducing trams into our network which is definitely less upfront cost but work require different infrastructure to maintain and service.
I’ll definitely be covering the SkyTrain expansion program here sometime in the future. There’s so much going on with that, I gotta talk about it!
Not entirely sure I agree with my tram points now though. The Surrey corridor is getting BRT which is definitely the best of both worlds, although the arbutus corridor should still probably get LRT imo. All comes down to funding I suppose
I’m sad I found this nearly 2 weeks later. This is so good!
Thank you for the kind words!
Very good stuff. Keep it going!😊
I agree with the Canada line extension. It would generally be more convenient for people coming from downtown or the airport. Great video!
It’s already at capacity.
Great ideas. I’m curious why nothing was said about the North Shore? It badly needs rapid transit.
Love your energy btw great videos
Great video! And white rock is very underserved for something as developed as it is. I live within eye shot of it across the border and learning how that whole area isn’t linked via rapid transit is widl
Thank you! I’m very pleased to report that in the time since this video was uploaded that TransLink announced a plan for a BRT route from White Rock to North Surrey which will be incredible! Like an LRT without the tracks.
You should check out my standalone video on White Rock and its housing market! It’s got a lot more info on White Rock in its recent years, which I’d love to hear your input on given your proximity to it (I assume Blaine?).
You left out Pitt Meadows and Maple Ridge!
When the evergreen extension was built they actually put in a switch before Coquitlam Central so that the skytrain could be extended out to Ridge. The Pitt River Bridge was also built and designed to accommodate a future skytrain expansion👍🏻
Very true! I also forgot any upgrades to the North Shore which would fall in line with Transport 2050. When I revisit this topic in the future I’ll be sure to talk about all of it!
Pretty sure it was for a short extension to PoCo primarily
Top 10 Capstones of all time fr
BRING THE TRAM LINES BACK! Especially the Arbutus Greenway line!
Keep up the consistency🔥🔥 youll go far
Good ideas. Now all we need is the funding to proceed with them.
I used to be on the transportation committee in MR. We also struggle with access to the rest of Metro Vancouver, even with the new rapid line. Another member of the committee and I were talking about plans for getting a passenger ferry route going up and down the Fraser again. Not only would it be utilizing easily navigable water ways, but bypassing road traffic all together
Would a regional rail link not be a better investment than a ferry? I feel like the speed and capacity alone would beat any ferry alternative
I think that it would be a way better option, especially in terms of higher speed travel to hubs with direct community connections, or at least for the higher density Metro Vancouver area specifically. MR is currently limited with one connection via bridge to the West, and one more bridge to the South. Our only other option is to head East into Mission. As a growing population centre with a horrible design for commerce & career centres, all of our necessities require traveling through multiple bottlenecks. Adding another dimension of travel throughout the Fraser Valley via the waterways would alleviate a lot of our current struggles in passing funding & agreements for other transit options (typically due to community concerns towards just adding to traffic)
Awesome CLC 12 project!!!!
Omg I feel like mine will end up being so similar lol
Well done young fella keep up the good work!
The problem with trams over skytrain is that you have to pay a driver and capacity is lower. For example, it might be more worth expanding the Canada line to 4 cars due to savings on operating cost over time and future planning. People like the skytrain, so it's easier to obtain the capital cost if there's public demand while politicians might see it as a better investment if it lowers operational cost over time and you can build more housing along it. I suspect TransLink might be more focused on replacing busy rapid bus lines with skytrain rather than new tram lines.
Translink needs to hire you!
Great video. I think the only thing that I would add, is some kind of transit to the warehouse districts in the southern park of Richmond, or towards Tilbury Park in Delta. Transit to Tilbury Park in particular is poor, and it is less than ideal in the Steveston area before you cross over into Delta. A Canada Line stop at Steveston would be a huge upgrade for the warehouse workers in that area, even if it is still a 10 minute walk to get to work. At least once you get off of work, you'd have a much more reliable way to get home. Tilbury Park, transit sucks even at the best of times, but it's basically non-existent at night. There are plenty of warehouses running 24/7 in Steveston and Tilbury, I've worked at a few of them.
Perhaps a BRT route that would run from a theoretical Steveston Canada Line station, through Tilbury Park, and connecting to one of the Surrey Expo Line stations, or the proposed LRT line, would provide a fast, frequent, and reliable way to get to work for warehouse workers in that area. Even though I do have a vehicle, for a morning shift, traffic in and around the Massey Tunnel is often terrible, so a reliable transit connection would probably have me taking transit, instead of driving. And having any night time transit connection to Tilbury would open up job opportunities for those who currently don't have particularly good options at the moment.
Add more late night busses to make sure everyone comes home safely
Metro Vancouver’s Night Bus network as a whole needs a lot of work! Unfortunately there’s no investments being made for the operations of such services at the moment
Nice work.
Cool video - I'd like to hear more about why you support LRT vs elevated or tunnelled. LRT is cheaper, yes, but in cities like Calgary and Edmonton they cause accidents and traffic delays.
To be honest, this was a relatively low-researched school project that was going off of biases I've had for years. Now that I am much more involved with transportation conversations, I definitely stray farther from the light rail support train (pun intended).
Surrey in particular doesn't seem like the good fit for LRT I thought it was but luckily since this video was uploaded, TransLink has announced that exact White Rock-Guildford corridor will be getting BRT which is a MUCH better choice.
I still believe the Arbutus-Steveston corridor is still fit for LRT. The densest stretches are completely separated from the road and the population isn't drastic enough for full SkyTrain just yet, but if nothing else it could serve as a study for future SkyTrain upgrades in the future.
I hate LRT it’s useless and causes problems it’s not truly cheaper
Great Stuff love the confidence!
this is such a good capstone omg
I like the idea of bringing the streetcars back for the downtown area but I really don't like the long suburban extension. Streetcars aren't particularly fast- when running on or next to a road they can't go faster than the road that they're next to. The reason why the Skytrain lines are so popular and effective is that they're very fast- they average a high enough speed to be competitive with, or be even faster than driving. A tram wouldn't have the same speed advantages due to the proximity to the street and the number of crossings (it averages half of the speed of the Expo line) and would therefore be much less competitive than driving. This means that trams provide a local transit service rather than regional transit. I also think the WCE deserves more respect, especially for connecting the areas of the fraser valley.
I totally agree! Although I think the Arbutus Line would do a good job at being well separated, I do imagine a Steveston extension would be difficult to run competitively with regular SkyTrain service, although unfortunately Richmond's population doesn't warrant full SkyTrain service as of current projections. Maybe a BRT would be a decent solution short term instead.
And stay tuned for a video on the WCE later this year! I'm just getting started on that front!
The 2012 South of Fraser Rapid Transit Study looked into a bunch of options and LRT was about 4x the capital cost for almost no service improvements over a BRT and the plan Linda Hepner wanted, the LRT plan, was the only one that had a negative ROI.
What's being built today is closer to option RRT1A and had one of the best ROIs in the study.
I personally think Surrey dodged a bullet by not putting in light rail. It's slow, expensive, and doesn't move a lot of people. Vancouver is better off converting proven rapidbus lines into grade separated Skytrain lines, starting with a North Shore line to Metrotown through Brentwood and continuing on down 41st Ave to UBC. Next would be a line down Hastings from the new line serving the PNE and ending in the West End.
I definitely agree. Now that I've done a lot more research on transit projects worldwide, I am quite relieved that TransLink prioritized the Surrey-Langley SkyTrain. Besides, we're even getting an extended BRT corridor to White Rock because of it!
GOOD LRT is poor man transit
Agreed! North Van to Burnaby (Park Royal to Metrotown) route is greatly needed. This is biggest bottleneck in Metro Vancouver right now. I usually need 3.5hrs to get to and come home for a 15min appt in North Van from Burquitlam. They need to extend the R2 RapidBus first and right away and then seriously work on the SkyTrain in this area.
We dodged a bullet because we, citizens of Surrey, didn't want LRT on King George or 104th. We got out and voted!
LRT has its place however Rapid Bus works pretty well.
King George is much better suited to BRT.
@@qjtvaddict yes the Kitchener ION is an Example of Good Light Rail done in the right place
I too want to become a transit planner, one of my big worries is that the millennium line will be extended to ubc via 10th and not 8th/university blvd/wesbrook mall, which would cut off an extension along 41st to replace the r4
*chancellor blvd not university
Great video. A few suggestions: rather than the proposed arbutus going to steveston and extending the Canada line to Delta (requiring significant back tracking and reducing top speeds), I'd suggest extending the Canada line to steveston (via Westminster highway and railway ave) and the arbutus line to Delta (via garden city, Williams rd and then highway 99 and 17). I'd also suggest making the arbutus line full skytrain (the Provincial TOD policies mean that lack of density isn't a justification for not providing the speed and reliability that only skytrain provides).
A final quibble, but more stations in Tsawwassen would be good. Especially Salish Sea drive and tsawwasen drive, connecting the Tsawwassen First Nation to rapid transit and furthering reconciliation. Finally, I'd suggest a spur line to Tsawwassen town centre with an alignment of 56st, with stations at (roughly) 16th avenue and 12th avenue.
I think I’ll be revisiting this topic sometime in the future. So much has changed (both policy wise and in my own knowledge) regarding this stuff!
@@TheGreaterDiscussionsit's also probably worth considering a highway 99 alignment in Richmond. Yes, it probably has lower ridership potential due to limited TOD opportunity, but it's the shortest distance to traverse Richmond (by about 3-4km by my estimation). And it would not create much improved access in Richmond due to limited opportunity for stations. But it would be much faster due to limited stopping and thus more time at top speeds, plus about 3-4km less distance. It would probably save more than ten minutes compared to a garden city rd or no. 3 rd alignment.
A highway 99 alignment would also facilitate lower costs due to fewer stations and the ability to build in the median of the highway (no expensive tunneling or elevation required). If light rail was chosen as the technology for the arbutus line, then I think a highway 99 alignment is ideal due to Higher speeds and Lower construction costs.
If we can spend so much money on building highways, we definitely have the money to invest and improve public transit. Public transit is a positive externality, and it saves people time and money, and is clean. ALL "city planners" should learn about induced demand - building better transit will increase its desirability, and the demand will increase as more people love transit. Its time we start planning and start building more lines to future proof cities.
It's wonderful to see you making content covering the place we both call home. Keep up the great work!
By the way, what bass do you have in the background there? Just curious as I play too
That’s just a 5-string electric bass haha. I also play upright bass as well but I don’t have one at home
what about LRT from Coquitlam to mission running down Lougheed? the west coast express is only good if you work downtown
Map Men in Vancouver?!
Cool video, what camera do you use?
This was just shot on an iPhone 12 Pro
@@TheGreaterDiscussions Wow it looks very good. Nice to see someone my age interested in the future of Vancouver’s transit
If you haven’t already you should check out my latest video about the Burnaby Mountain Gondola project. It’s much better quality than this!
@@TheGreaterDiscussions Watched that one first
Imagine if an LRT also was built from Swartz Bay to downtown Victoria
It would Mack the Victoria Vancouver connection way better
Sorry damn auto correct. I meant make the Victoria Vancouver connection way better.
While Victoria certainly doesn’t have the worst transit system of BC, it could still definitely use a lot of work. Could probably end up making a whole video about Victoria or something 😅
could you do a short video about your thoughts on the demolition of the georgia viaduct?
Maybe once they start working on it. I’ve definitely got thoughts on it and it might be perfect for a YT Short.
Great video. Tsawwassen terminal is a bit of an oddity. I do think Translink should invest in a semi high speed link between the ferry terminal, airport, and downtown, with suitable stops to intersect other transit options. Even if its expensive, in my opinion it is the better solution. LRT in my humble opinion will be a good solution for SE and SW marin drive. It badly needs superior transit and buses are not a great option. Moreover several pockets along the route are densifying rapidly.
nice vid 👍
I strongly believe we should be linking Horseshoe Bay Terminal (possibly like a northernmost terminus) as well as Tsawwassen Terminal to Greater Vancouver also.
Absolutely! I’ve heard ideas of a passenger only ferry (like Hullo) operating near YVR. What do you think of that idea?
Sounds great. If the ferry is dedicated exclusively to YVR, maybe you could clear security and customs before even getting on the ferry on Vancouver Island???
Interesting idea. I think just having a mid-point pedestrian ferry between YVR and Victoria would be a win on its own, security or not
Very cool video!
btw, what software do you use to draw the lines on the map?
When I made this video, all I used was the Preview app on Mac with the markup tool. I’m hoping to have a much more professional setup for my next video haha 😅
Fantastic video bro. At least Vancouver is far ahead of Winnipeg. Winnipeg should add more commuter rail and expand to LRT
This is amazing
Great ideas man. Those big people living in mansions around false creek and kits would pay pretty penny to not have trains run next to them
I really don't buy the idea of street-level LRT working in Surrey on those very busy roads. I think Skytrain through Newton is a better idea. Maybe LRT could work in Vancouver though.
There's an idea I've had that might work with your routes though.
I've wondered if it might be possible to get the state of Washington to chip in some funds if the two routes going south in your plan were connected east and west, with lines going all the way to the border. That would create a transit route that would allow residents of Point Roberts to reach Blaine very conveniently and quickly, as well as letting people from Richmond and Tsawwassen to reach Surrey and White Rock. I think this could also have an affect on housing costs in Metro Van, because it would be easier for people to live farther from downtown in places that are currently not very populated, and still get around easily. People would start moving out of the denser cities and living farther out where homes are more affordable, in turn making homes in the denser areas less expensive by decreasing demand. What do you think?
6:02 that tunnel i will say it closed off now a days,
quite freaky because this is quite close to where i am, if i wanted to i could just walk over there right now but it is quite far
Translink should take a page out of Metrolinx / GO Transit's book. Ther are currently turning Toronto's GO Train commuter rail lines into a fast, frequent, electric regional rail system with two way, all day, 5-15 minute service on most lines.
I’ve got a video on exactly that idea coming in the future!
They really need to get ( something) out to at least Abbotsford. As someone who has to drive everywhere for work, seeing a better public transit that would take ( hell 20% off the road), would help out a lot. Then on weekends if i want to head into Vancouver for a show, i can use Public Transit the whole way. This is where all the carbon tax and such should go and not general coffers
Metro Van desperately needs a better connection to the Fraser Valley. Stay tuned for a video on a similar subject in the future...
@@TheGreaterDiscussions can't wait to watch. A high-speed rail to Alberta and South would be an awesome video as well
Cascadia HSR is a fascinating project that’s definitely on my “make a video” list. But there’s not nearly enough information to make that video anytime soon
Make Vancouver railed again
Absolutely!
Sorry, you'll never be able to sell me on the idea of light rail in Surrey unless it ran on a corridor similar to Arbutus.
Don't worry, I even disagree with this point now haha! Seems we'll be getting the best of both worlds with the BRT though!
There’s one problem I have with your channel.
Lack of subscribers. This channel is too underrated for such a good one run by a passionate Vancouverite transit enthusiast
Hahaha thanks!
Vancouver Sky train should be an example for the entire United States. That it should be elevated automative system. That it should have fewer stops that traditional light rail systems.
For local services an automated street car system should be implemented. But streetcar do better if the mileage is under 5 miles. Than another automated SC system would take over.
The SC should be no more than 100ft max. And service should be no less than 5 minutes during rush hour and 10 minutes other times.
make sure that one UBC professor doesn’t see this
The fact that I know exactly what you’re referring to…
I was mentally yelling at you the entire time, "CLOSE THE LOOP!" Traveling from Surrey to Richmond is essentially a big U-turn and it starts to feel so ridiculous taking it when the Surrey expo stations and the Richmond canada line stations are essentially running parallel to each other and crying out desperately for something to properly connect them.
Yes! Better connections between Surrey and Richmond are necessary! A lot of things I wasn’t aware of when I made this, but more express routes between Surrey/New West and Richmond are on the way!
IMO there's a lot of good ideas in this, however I still see one fatal flaw that all plans for our system have. It's still ALL about funneling people from suburb to downtown Vancouver, but we've got many downtown cores that have grown in the suburbs since the original Expo line came into being. No plans address this and the growing need for suburb to suburb travel, which means everyone who commutes those routes has no choice but to do it by single driver car. A Richmond to Surrey connection would go a long way to alleviating that. Along with a redundant east-west skytrain line operating along the south side of Vancouver to New West where it can link with the existing Expo line. Those 2 additions to your plans would go a long way to making the transit system a true alternative to cars rather then a to downtown Vancouver commuter system that it mostly is currently. This would both help give people a real alternative to cars as well as stimulate more suburban jobs growth, helping to further diversify our economy form being so dependent on one big urban centre.
100% agree. I wish I had done this video now instead of when I was in high school as I understand so much more about this stuff. One of the best lines that we might get in the future is the West Van-North Van-Metrotown line which would be an incredible orbital transit line! Upgrades to the current Brighouse-Surrey bus routes would definitely be needed too, especially as Surrey prepares for BRT and Surrey Langley SkyTrain
@@TheGreaterDiscussions Also the suburban bus routes really need to be simplified and adjusted to follow the main artery grid rather then weaving them through every side street, back alley and parking lot driveway they can find. I live in the Tri Cities and most routes are like that and barely anybody uses them. I don't have a car and when I need those routes, I usually just find a different place to go as it's just too confusing to keep track of what bus goes where when the same short street can have 5 different busses each serving a 2-4 block stretch of it while weaving on and off that street. In parts of Surrey and Burnaby where they have gridified the routes, ridership has visibly gone way up as busses become a way for pedestrians to use the streets in a vehicle that follows the major traffic patterns rather then doing weird stuff nobody really does if they're in a car.
@@Seriously_Unserious Generally I'd say the express bus network should be better in general. I'm not sure why we don't have some sort of express bus on every highway and major arterial road in the Metro area, it would really help round out a pretty decent transfer-based grid network.
@@TheGreaterDiscussions That's pretty much what they do in Vancouver, and south Burnaby/Metrotown area, as well as parts of Central Surry, and ridership is chronically very high in these areas.
I think the whole CLC thing is stupid, but at least it gave us this video.
With all due respect, the trouble with the Arbutus corridor is that most of the density and demand is to the east of Canada Line, not the west. There’s a lot to learn from the BCER but demands have drastically changed.
You're absolutely right. I would say that there should be a future effort to density the West as well, but that tends to be rather controversial. I do also believe the existence of an Arbutus line would generally assist in relieving the Canada Line.
Unfortunately, this video was a school project that was not entirely researched and I slowly begin to disagree with some of my points as I look further into the topics. I'll likely cover these topics again with full research in the future and I greatly appreciate this feedback which will help me out with those future videos!
I liked your vid but I still think it’s incomplete. I think think there’s needs to another line perhaps starting at Metrotown going through Richmond close to knight street bridge past the tunnel to north delta/ Surrey. It makes no sense for commuters to have to always go through waterfront station to get to other parts of metro Vancouver.
We also need HSR honestly, wear coat train should be changed to that from mission and we also need hsr connecting Langley centres new train station to Abbotsford and chilliwack.
My dream project would be the train I suggested for Burnaby Richmond north delta to actually extend to north Vancouver and west Vancouver and ideally one day we get that to Squamish and whistler too. Then we will have world class transit.
This all could be done if we weren’t sending every god forsaken dollar to shithole Toronto federally
I agree, this video is definitely incomplete (it was really just meant as a school project lol). I think if I included the plans used in Transport 2050 and the Access for Everyone plan that this would have been a much more well rounded video.
As to your point about a train from West Van to Metrotown to Richmond, well, that's actually in the works!! Although right now it's just proposed as RapidBus, the R2 will be extended from North Van to Brentwood and Metrotown where it will connect to the future R7 from Metrotown to Brighouse. The R2 section will be a part of a study for a future SkyTrain, BRT or LRT project and if ridership is good on the R7, I could see it potentially doing the same.
And when it comes to more regional rail well... I'll just say: Stay tuned ;)
@@TheGreaterDiscussionsI’m down to see the “Spirit Line” (North shore - Brentwood - Metrotown - UBC/Richmond) happen. Getting from North Van to UBC is way too much of a hassle as it is.
Would be even better if we can have a regional railway system and a better connection across the burrad inlet
You should stick around, I might just have a video about that in the works 👀
I bet you’re a big cities skylines player much like myself!! ;)
A desire named "streetcar"
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Transit Scott the Woz? 😮
Hahaha glad to see this reputation has followed me here
better than my capstone lmfao
you forgot about willoughby which will have over 100 000 people (greater than the population of maple ridge) soon
I forgot a lot of key neighbourhoods in this video. Better service around the township is needed and they’re working on a new Transportation and Mobility Strategy right now! I suggest you engage in their surveys and open houses in these coming weeks
Hello, I see now your video.
I’m not from Vancouver so, actually I don’t know how is the city and the financial situation standing.
However in your plans, I think, you are missing the fact that transport infrastructure costs a lot.
That’s means that it has to get a lot of political support across the parties, as the party (or leaders) who finance and endures the negative effects of the building sites is not the one benefitting of its opening.
Looking from a money point of view (at west European prices) we are talking values close to 15M€/km per double tram tracks and 1,5M€ per vehicle.
In this sense I would find useful first to map all the dismissed infrastructure and than try to add individual the minimum amount of track required to reach some key destinations, and step by step expanding and joining routes.
You’re absolutely right about the money issue. It’s a reality we see everyday with bus routes in some districts becoming less and less frequent with TransLink’s lack of new funding.
In the terms of this video, it was definitely a fantasy view of what my ideal system would look like, although I even disagree with that now hahaha
@@TheGreaterDiscussions I'm glad you liked my comment, would you mind if I "use you" to bounce some ideas, maybe can be useful or just to set some orders to half-ideas.
One of the things that kind of upsets me is that often transport infrastructure is used to upgrade an already existing transport system while there are still urban and suburban areas which are not served.
The current method is to say "if the line is successful replace with a higher level of infrastructure", which I think it's a silly practice because you end up serving the same individuals (with a more costly service) while disrupting the actual service in the hope of the improved service will pay-out before the next "improvement"starts, while completely ignoring the dynamic nature of business that have the natural incentive of relocating towards more accessible areas.
I have read somewhere about the so called "pedestrian catchment area" and I think would be a better way to plan expansions.
If an existing station is overcrouded you can overlap with another line while the rests of the lines covers other areas that are not served.
@@gabrielebianchi8976 I can definitely see what you're saying. Funnily enough, I believe the notion of "build what's needed now and upgrade later" happens to also come down to funding. Services like SkyTrain are remarkably efficient and just about the best a light metro system can get, but they are horrendously expensive-and Metro Van has actually done an incredible job at working down prices of these systems without significant compromises.
I imagine BC's new plan for a vast increase in Transit-Oriented Development (TOD) will do wonders for this. Like you said with the pedestrian catchment area, TOD is a great way of generating service with high-density mixed-use housing within a 15 minute walking radius of the station. This effect can even be seen in Richmond, where TOD developments literally funded the new Capstan Canada Line station! Hopefully we'll see an increase in these new developments in the future, which can lead to more ambitious projects.
Great video but you should consider connections between the suburbs cities. Delta has very poor connections between South Surrey and South Delta. Some of the largest new developments in the South Surrey And the tfn lands both these large commercial developments and housing projects have no viable Transit connection between them with transfers required Stevenson Highway and 99, currently atrocious overpass🤮
The Delta area needs to be addressed especially for someone from Burnaby the time it takes to get there ranges from an hour to two hours and it varies by wait time and traffic. There aren't any fast Tsawassen Delta route connection from 22nd Street Station. It doesn't exist. And also the time it takes to get to White Rock and back is really exhausting to do in one day with Translink. Burnaby to YVR is also horrible too.
100% agree. I’ll likely revisit the topic sometime in the future. There was A LOT that I missed here
Everywhere south of the Fraser is tough to get to right now. I tend to joke that it takes an hour to get from Surrey to Surrey by bus, but it’s true. Thankfully there are plans to fix this
West side*
I really want to watch this video, and I really want to hear what you're saying, but the unnecessary music is driving me crazy.
yeahhhhhhhh. My audio mixing definitely wasn't too great on this video. I hadn't initially intended for it to be released on RUclips. I think the microphone quality and music mixing is much better in my most recent video
@@TheGreaterDiscussions Thank you for replying. Can you post it without music? It looks like a good video that I'd like to watch.
I'll look for your other videos.
I just checked and I don’t have the raw files for this video anymore. I do however have proper English captions across all of my videos, so if the music is ever a concern, you can still properly watch them like that
@@TheGreaterDiscussions Good idea. Thank you for such a reasonable response.
Cheers! I appreciate your commitment to watching this video!
build a 6 lane freeway from Richmond to West Van down Arbutus and under Stanley Park.
I got a family to feed and I don't have time for losers building up traffic, make it 8 lanes
its because light rail sucks, to answer your question. transit needs to be scalable, not just buildable. foot the cost for the future, don't give us these stupid middle measures that are impossible to improve
Having learned a lot since this video went up, I really start to wonder where Light Rail actually fits. Streetcars can often be replaced with good quality buses (with priority) and full light rail lines can be leagues better with a greater investment into full metro.
What do you think the best solution for the Arbutus corridor is?
RM transit jr