this is probably the only youtube channel where i get excited whenever i see recommended. all the video ideas are fresh, the format and delivery are clean, and there is always something happening visually so my gen z brain keeps paying attention. 10/10 can't wait for the apple video
The fact that Android keeps functioning on every device despite the multitude of combination of hardware and manufacturer customizations is a truly underappreciated aspect of the operating system. Apple's iOS? Of course it feels "optimized" because they only need to tailor the software to their own devices, which are very very few compared to Android devices.
I like this video. It's straight to the point, and i also like how you just justify android's features, rather than putting iOS down (Which is what people usually do in these videos) I would like to see a video of iOS and Android pros, cons, and things in common.
watching these videos makes me feel like i finally found my niche, when I was little and the 3ds UI update was announced I was more excited than I was about the games coming out then, I love UIs so much
I used to believe all of the things you said in this video. I hated Android. Once I started developing applications for Android (because I didn't have money to buy a Mac and pay the Developer subscription for iOS, lol), I got used to the UI, and more freedom you have. Android is now my favorite operating system, and I learned how to mod it and do some more advanced stuff. It's a shame that it seems that Google wants to lock it down more with every version. Great video! The editing is good.
and also yeah, those people who treat their iPhones as status symbol are among some of the most pathetic kind of people ever. like why would you treat a disposable item like that, it's not a luxury cars or watch, it's just a freaking hard to repair disposable item 😂
This feels like youtube in 2010, and I mean it in the best way possible. What an amazing channel, crazy source of knowledge, very spot on sense of analysis... the video about Frutiger aesthetics... the millenial me is SO happy to have found you.
after using Android phones for years i switched to using an iPhone about four years ago and have zero interest in going back to using Android but i'm glad both exist. good video and speaking of that last point, when i first got my iPhone i asked Siri what she thought of Android and she responded "those are the phones that cost pennies at the mall, right" 😳lol
I got my iPad for my college program and I’ve always been an Android user (Windows for laptops). And you’re right, iOS takes very good care of me. Especially Siri, love her. However, I don’t like the UI controls. I prefer Android’s typical tactile style, where as Apple barely wants you to directly interact with the device. I love the easy voice command, though.
@GayPrideTransPride Yeah, they can analyze my Siri commands as much as they want. Because that’s all it can do. I just use it for the weather and opening apps, it’s not on my phone (Android).
The main problem of Android is still the fact that Android phones get updates for shorter. But this problem is starting to be stopped because manufacturers like Samsung now also provide software updates for longer
@@iriemonmon I mean, true but only when you're a software engineer who knows how to port or configure an entire OS with lots of free time. That being said, the best company right now is Samsung with 4 years of OS updates and 5 years of security updates on their flagships, which i'd say is pretty great!
Really concise video, glad that you was able to really express these concepts in a pretty objective light. You've made a lot of good videos so for and am really interested in seeing how your channel develops!
Videos like these show me how awesome it is to learn about the early 2000s and really appreciating the nostalgia it brings. I was so glad I found your channel and I hope it reaches more people
It's interesting to learn the perspective of an American user of Android! As a Brazilian, the vast majority of people here prefer Android over iOS, since it's a lot more cheaper and flexible than the alternative. Not only that, but our country has the most expensive Apple products in the world, due to high tax rates and cheap currency ($1 is like 5 reais or so). And because of that, Brazil's case is the exact opposite of the USA. People like to make fun of iOS and Apple users for being rich people. It's an overgeneralization sure but, it's also kinda true...? Anyway, to be honest, this "iOS vs Android War" is so dumb. "The best Mobile OS" is the one that is better for your preferred experience, both were made for different types of users, just like you said in the video, so fighting for "the best one" is just straight up pointless. About this video: It's pretty informative and I learned some pros of Android that I didn't know about it! I personally not into Smartphone OSs, but really like to watch your videos about then! I'm looking forward to your video about iOS! :D
That's interesting to read because it's kinda the opposite of what I'd seen. Which state are you from? I was in Pernambuco earlier this year and I learned that iPhones are very desirable there because the Activation Lock feature makes thieves want to avoid stealing them since the phone can become an unsellable paperweight in an instant if the owner activates it.
@@StarLotus Fascinating. For a state right next to PE, I would've expected the general views on iPhones to be similar. Maybe what I saw is a very recent phenomenon that's currently isolated to just a few places.
Apple has a big advantage over Android which is their ecosystem, all rounded is a nice idea. But, it traps you into following their rules making everything simple, seamless and pretty. But you never know what's behind the courtain. The consistency is also a nice touch, making everything familiar is somewhat appreciated. I tried an iPhone before and a first glance, it was alien to me compared to any android i've used from different brands. It made everything so simple, yet so complicated to use. Take for example the Home Screen, you have trillions of applications presented in one single screen, no way to select which ones you want on the main screen, the taskbar may work but it's not enough. At the end, I think it just comes to preferences. I choose and android with a simple custom open source rom. And because I do some development in here so, yeah it fit my needs. But I could perfectly use an iPhone too, the most interesting thing I normally do is watch RUclips and so some calls. But iPhone are somewhat expensive just to do that.
If you like graphical design for software you should check Linux's many desktop environment and window managers like gnome and kde there's a lot of design there
I got an iphone for work last year. On the same day I had to extract a zip file. I learned that zip files apparently don't exist for apple like at all so I returned it for an Android the same day.
Been an Apple user all my life, but I've always had a lot of understanding for Android. There's no comparing the two operating systems, really - it all just comes down to preference, and each one offers its own great features. I for one envy Android users for having so much freedom, hah. At least iOS devices are jailbreakable.
One thing I really miss about Android is the brand variety, so many brands died and now it’s only Samsung or Chinese brands sadly. On my country Pixel never came or even Sony stopped selling phones here, I never got why Pixel only sells on select markets :/ I really miss my Sony Xperia Z3, it had a an Android experience refined by Sony, it was super cool, and always super snappy with awesome features! But yeah for now, the best for me is the iPhone, if Sony still made phones would be an option, but I really don’t like any of the current Android options.
On point #1, as a lifelong android user, I am always furious whenever the UI of the system, or even an app's UI changes seemingly for no reason at all. I can get behind and live with a major UI change every time I upgrade my phone, but some things should have a toggle and have no reason to change. Two things that come to mind are the lock screen clock. Until 13 (I think?) the clock read like al digital clocks do on the lock screen. After that, if there are no notifications on the lock screen, the clock is giant and in two rows... Stupid. Especially when the clock goes back to the old style when there are notifications there! Secondly, I did not like how they consolidated the wifi and mobile data buttons into one 'internet' button. There was a way to get it back, but that was removed in the next version. I'm all for change, but not for the sake of change. If it isn't broken, don't try to fix it
So good to see another video from this channel, how has it already been one year since your first video?! The way you articulate your speech is calm, inviting and very informative. Not once have I been disappointed by any of your videos! On the topic of this video itself, I am a "techie" guy, hence why I have the Galaxy S20+. Personally, I find android to be of more value than IOS as it is more customisable, mostly faster and different. Meanwhile, IOS users find value in their products because of their stability, security and familiarity. Here in Australia, IOS is by far the dominant phone OS, lately however, I have seen more android phones in the hands of higher-profile people, which is great! In my experience, my brothers iPhone 11 actually encounters more crashes and glitches than my S20+ does.
my biggest criticism of android is how far it is from the linux kernel it's based on, instead of using standardized stuff used on all kinds of UNIX based operating systems for decades, google decided to reinvent the wheel also the diversity in androids can be a bit of a problem, i remember way back in the day when i couldn't play some games because thy expected the touchscreen to support more than two fingers, which my super cheap phone didn't have, when i know a lot about a certain class of devices, be them phones or specialized circuit boards, i usually opt in for the cheapest possible choice, because i know what i'm doing and what to expect, while some less advanced consumers may feel scammed as they paid for a device they expected to support something it doesn't generally the experience is more about what brand you choose, for example i'd rather kill myself than use a samsung with all possible samsung and google bloatware, that's why i choose brands that have something very close to stock AOSP also the status thing is a double edged sword, for example here in serbia, where a basic iphone is like 3 or 4 average monthly wages, many people buy status symbols like iphones or expensive cars, and it's usually the poorer that like to show off in such a destructive way, that's why the country with the most mercedes cars per capita is one of the poorest countries in europe: albania, so there are also many people like me that will judge someone if they own an iphone but can barely afford to live it's just plain stupidity and an unhealthy desire to follow western trends, here the culture of piracy, freedom to do whatever with your device, getting the most for your money, and even general hatred towards anything western, make cheap chinese phones the rational choice, xiaomi and huawei are extremely popular, so much so that almost all "loyalty apps" from serbian stores and businesses are published in the huawei app store, it's an interesting fact i accidentally realized
I get why the developers of Android chose to use things like SurfaceFlinger instead of X11 or Wayland (no) but they have changed so much they might as well just make their own kernel lol
I think your the best youtuber to talk about android. In fact. i think you the only person/youtuber to not make fun of ios users and make fun of them for their kind of phone. most of the time i hear youtubers or people i know saying "IOs Is FoR pEoPLe WHo Are STUPID, SWITCH TO ANDROID iTS bEttER"
5:01 TRUEE, I hate those products so much. I don't understand why so many people want to buy something extremely overpriced just as a status symbol, when you can get something for way less that is so much cooler.
As an android user, I do think IOS looks better, is more user friendly and generally just has good UI - and I wish android UI was as good. But android definitely has some features that apple doesn't have, which is also pretty great. I am not gonna pick a team and stubbornly say that's the best one. Both have qualities and I could see myself using both in the future.
i think the real issue is just that android doesn’t integrate well with iphones. like green bubbles and not being able to add people to group chats with android users makes it less enticing to get an android because it is so inconvenient socially
the green bubble thing is the most idiotic thing that i've heard people say, that and everyone has more than one way to message people now so i'm sure they can make a group for everyone on something else. the problem just sounds so whiny and pointless.
As a android user. I agree with what you're saying if you don't like the style of android there are some ways to get around this and cheap android sometimes for more worth it than iphones you don't have to spend thousands of dollars just for iphone android already has enough features you need
Really interesting, the editing is really smooth, keep going ! Also I didnt know you could replace stock Android, going to do it as soon as possible. I would like to give you a more detailled criticism and point out little flaws, but since it's concise and straight to the point I dont have much to say, it's uust really nice :)
“Android is glued together” Android comes from the Linux kernel, more specifically, Gentoo. iOS and macOS come from: - Darwin - NEXTStep - BSD - POSIX - UNIX - Mac OS 9 So, Android is a lot less of a Frankenstein.
Ayy the best UI content creator uploaded! I am not sure if you were there for the "golden age" of Android rooting several years back. I got a Galaxy Nexus with Jelly Bean as my first smart phone. Cyanogenmod, AKOP, Paranoid, and OmniRom were some of the popular custom Android ROMs. I was amazed that there was such a large community dedicated to making these custom, open source flavors of Android. I had fun playing and using some of them. Unfortunately, these days a lot phone makers try to make it difficult to install custom ROMs and some manufactures will void the warranty, but you can get around this by reverting back to stock Android.... just dont brick your device by mistake. I like the part where you discuss the freedom users have over they device. This is one of the reasons why I love Linux. This video makes me want to try to install a custom ROM again on my phone... Cyanogenmod lives on in LinageOS. Thanks again for another awesome video, Undefined! 🐧📱🌱
For a little while, my mom was the only one in our family using iOS (it was an older iphone so what I say could be out of date). Imo it was so confusing to me to use. I'm more used to Windows/video games where the settings are individually in each application. The fact that every app's settings were in the setting app on iOS makes sense, I suppose? But to me it was definitely an adjustment to get used to. And I really like having the "buttons" on the bottom of almost every app in Android. It grounds the whole experience and lets me know I can usually just hit the back button if I need to get out of a page, etc. And I like having the ability to easily install apps that aren't on the built in store. Since I play some foreign games too.
I personally pick android phones for the simple fact that iPhones don't have SD card slots. Holding me hostage to a cloud service is something I will never agree to.
it brings me great joy being the one stubborn little bugger in my family who always buys whichever cheap nokia is available instead of buying a new iphone like the rest of them have. apple makes some cool stuff and it's beautiful how seamlessly two apple products will sync up and work with each other, but oh my GOD does everything else about them annoy the hell out of me. i love my nokia. sure, there are times where it acts like a stupid piece of shit that never does the goddamn thing it's fucking supposed to, but that's part of the charm. and also partially my fault for disabling important stuff in the name of... uh... battery life or something. but that's part of the beauty of android.
I have found someone who understands. This is truly a masterpiece of a video, including the fact that Undefined didn't try to humble any opinion or put one down, just pure awesome. I will forever love this creator
I have an idea for a way too specific deep-dive: Open Source projects' brand identities. What are the best/worst ones, how were they created and why are they generally worse than proprietary companies' (when in my experience the products are usually just as good and well tought out)
I've always seen iOS as the phone for people who like straight forward simplicity, whereas Android was always for people who preferred customization and the ability to run non-standardized software.
Here in Europe, the iPhone has become more and more popular, but it certainly doesn't go as far as judging people by their phone. I love flexing with my transparent, customized phone knowing I've chosen the right thing for me
Listen, I'm a huge Apple boi, all my stuff is Apple, besides most of my pcs, all though my laptop is a MacBook, but I have to say, Android isn't a bad OS. It gets a bad wrap because of some of the genuine e-waste some of the phones are. Most Androids are great, but you just need to find a decent phone. I used to have an S9 actually, and it is still one of my favorite phones!
It’s fun from an EU perspective you get wired looks at you having an iOS Device because why you spend so much money if you can have an Android based device which can do it all for cheap (which is only partly true)
I've been using Android since 1.6 Donut and honetly I don't understand why iPhones are as popular as they are, if anything they feel less user friendly, but maybe thats just because I'm not used to iOS
Android is simply what you make of it. My Phone is probably the coolest thing I own, so many features and so many possibilities. The average person who doesn't know anything about tech, will not understand it and be overwhelmed, but because of its potential alone android is so much more advanced than ios.
the main reason I don't use android is because I hate google. I don't hate android but I prefer IOS. I like the freedom, but that's why I like jailbreak. At the end of the day, it all depends on preference. There is no "better operating system" only one that is better for you.
as both, a former android user and a current iOS user, i completely agree to all of these points. most ppl just criticise android coz they've never used it or they're just iOS fanatics, however the WORLD of customization on android phones is beyond this world. i still have my redmi note 9s rn i have it on miui but oh lord the amount of custom roms i've installed lol had a couple of soft bricks too, but that's the fun of it all lol just switched to iOS coz i like the simplicity and it makes it easier to transfer files since i have a mac
I feel like a lot of people think that every single android phone performs like those shitty $100 LG/Motorola phones you can find everywhere at carrier stores here in the states because that's what they were used to seeing or using growing up... because theres always been either very little or no senses of distinct "hardware classes" in the iphone world if that makes sense - like there's no apple made Snapdragon 4 or 6 series-powered iphone equivalent if that makes any sense
I think iOS limits control when it comes to one handed usage, especially on larger displays. Take Windows Phone for example: It gives You full control when it comes with one handed usage and almost NOTHING that You need to tap directly is at the top meanwhile iOASS has everything at tthe top. Android is also very well optimized for one handed usage.
tbh i really like andriod's UI, like the squares in it, its just looks good to me. It reminds me of the areo pictures, it looks clean, ios is really good too i like its features and its style, android and ios are really good phones. But for me i'll go with android at most. God bless yall :)
Imo android doesn't give you that much control, I'm a Linux user on desktop and I gotta say that android is easy to use and stable like iOS and doesn't feel truly customisable in the way Linux does, I'm an android user right now but I'm really excited for the development of Linux phones in the future - I mean pure Linux, not just a modified android build - no Google, no proprietary software (although Google services are admittedly nice to have)
I've always been an iOS person since the iPhone 4, but I absolutely respect Android, especially the older versions and I get super annoyed when I hear iOS people going "androids are for poor people" or "android is clunky and sucks" like, learn before you speak.
I personally am an iPhone user since i got my first phone and i really have to agree with you in nearly any point. I also think that you should choose your os on which you prefer more!!
I think one of the best parts of Android is its customization potential. With iOS, you're kinda stuck with the way it looks, but with Android you can get to customize it to make your own wacky layouts, designed by you, for you.
I recently got my first ever iPhone as a second phone to my s21 and for me some parts of os wasn't as intuitive as I thought it would be. I am amazed by the animations tho but I think in android world it depends on vendor. so I think it all comes down to the fact that the best os for you is the one that you already have on your phone.
I want my phone to work perfectly all the time, iOS is reliable and perfect for work. The only people complaining how bad iOS/Apple is are people with other phones/systems. A lot of iPhone users don‘t need to do this, they just happy with a working product and a top service around the corner with real people helping you asap.
You mentioning Androids being cheap was one of the reasons I was initially put off of them years ago. When I was getting my first phone for my 11th birthday my parents went and got me an iPhone 6. My mom did ask me at one point though if I wanted an android. I said no not because I hated android, but because I was worried that they would have gotten me a cheap plastic model. Had they offered me a Galaxy S7 or something premium like that though I would have accepted.
as a long time android user, the fact that people would get pissy because you prefer android over iphone is the most stupidest thing ever not only that, it's also quite funny that the reason they hate android so much is not because of everything else, but because it's doesn't have a good quality camera, even though companies like Samsung have better cameras for their latest phones among any other company that produces phone with android in them people need to stop treating android like shite and make amends with the android users
this is probably the only youtube channel where i get excited whenever i see recommended. all the video ideas are fresh, the format and delivery are clean, and there is always something happening visually so my gen z brain keeps paying attention. 10/10 can't wait for the apple video
could not absolutely agree any more than what I agree rn
same
don't forget to mention the soothing narrative and well written scripts, definetly 10/10 content
same
this is such a good channel ughh
This is an amazing channel
very true!
i agree
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The fact that Android keeps functioning on every device despite the multitude of combination of hardware and manufacturer customizations is a truly underappreciated aspect of the operating system.
Apple's iOS? Of course it feels "optimized" because they only need to tailor the software to their own devices, which are very very few compared to Android devices.
As someone who has gone back-and-forth between iOS and Android, this video is accurate. It all depends what you want out of a smartphone.
@Casper's Studio
As I said, it all depends on what you want out of a smartphone.
I like this video. It's straight to the point, and i also like how you just justify android's features, rather than putting iOS down (Which is what people usually do in these videos)
I would like to see a video of iOS and Android pros, cons, and things in common.
watching these videos makes me feel like i finally found my niche, when I was little and the 3ds UI update was announced I was more excited than I was about the games coming out then, I love UIs so much
An unknown comfortable feeling from the past; That's what this channel is, "Undefined"
I used to believe all of the things you said in this video. I hated Android.
Once I started developing applications for Android (because I didn't have money to buy a Mac and pay the Developer subscription for iOS, lol), I got used to the UI, and more freedom you have.
Android is now my favorite operating system, and I learned how to mod it and do some more advanced stuff. It's a shame that it seems that Google wants to lock it down more with every version.
Great video! The editing is good.
and also yeah, those people who treat their iPhones as status symbol are among some of the most pathetic kind of people ever.
like why would you treat a disposable item like that, it's not a luxury cars or watch, it's just a freaking hard to repair disposable item 😂
Fr most of them can’t even afford to pay it off 💀 , and be having raggy clothes
amen
iPhones are luxury items. But it is corny when people brag about it.
This feels like youtube in 2010, and I mean it in the best way possible. What an amazing channel, crazy source of knowledge, very spot on sense of analysis... the video about Frutiger aesthetics... the millenial me is SO happy to have found you.
after using Android phones for years i switched to using an iPhone about four years ago and have zero interest in going back to using Android but i'm glad both exist. good video
and speaking of that last point, when i first got my iPhone i asked Siri what she thought of Android and she responded "those are the phones that cost pennies at the mall, right" 😳lol
"Siri, you're going to hell"
And yet Apple users will still think Android is inferior just because there's no AirDrop 💀
It's not too difficult to implement AirDrop on non-Apple platforms, I think someone wrote a demo of it on GitHub if anyone is interested
even THAT'S untrue because Android has had its own version of AirDrop for a while. it's called Nearby Share.
@@neonvortex True but let's be honest no one uses it
Android is often looked down upon for being " inferior" to ios
Remember there are pros and cons of both things
I got my iPad for my college program and I’ve always been an Android user (Windows for laptops). And you’re right, iOS takes very good care of me. Especially Siri, love her. However, I don’t like the UI controls. I prefer Android’s typical tactile style, where as Apple barely wants you to directly interact with the device. I love the easy voice command, though.
@GayPrideTransPride Yeah, they can analyze my Siri commands as much as they want. Because that’s all it can do. I just use it for the weather and opening apps, it’s not on my phone (Android).
😳 you love siri
i love the points you brought up! i wish more people talked about them, but it seems its easy to just bash what you see without looking deeper
The main problem of Android is still the fact that Android phones get updates for shorter. But this problem is starting to be stopped because manufacturers like Samsung now also provide software updates for longer
custom roms
@@magnoliy08Custom roms aren't easy to install for regular users and you can brick your phone. But yeah for power users definetly a great choice.
your videos are very very comforting ❤️ i love em!
Really good video. The android brotherhood remains on top
Software upgrades are the biggest problem on the Android side, great video!
It's literally not when we have nearly full control of our operating system
@@iriemonmon I mean, true but only when you're a software engineer who knows how to port or configure an entire OS with lots of free time. That being said, the best company right now is Samsung with 4 years of OS updates and 5 years of security updates on their flagships, which i'd say is pretty great!
@@iriemonmon I'm still on android 7 on my Axon 7, unsafe I know! I should have a look on LineageOS
My Galaxy S4 is still running Android 13, where as Iphone 5 can't even do ios 12
You should have included the more common Rebuttals. For Example: "Androids have bad camera quality" or "Does your battery fall out when you drop it"
Really concise video, glad that you was able to really express these concepts in a pretty objective light. You've made a lot of good videos so for and am really interested in seeing how your channel develops!
You know it's a good day when undefined posts
Seeing an upload from this channel makes my day
a lot of these points can be reused for linux compared to windows
Videos like these show me how awesome it is to learn about the early 2000s and really appreciating the nostalgia it brings. I was so glad I found your channel and I hope it reaches more people
It's interesting to learn the perspective of an American user of Android!
As a Brazilian, the vast majority of people here prefer Android over iOS, since it's a lot more cheaper and flexible than the alternative. Not only that, but our country has the most expensive Apple products in the world, due to high tax rates and cheap currency ($1 is like 5 reais or so).
And because of that, Brazil's case is the exact opposite of the USA. People like to make fun of iOS and Apple users for being rich people. It's an overgeneralization sure but, it's also kinda true...?
Anyway, to be honest, this "iOS vs Android War" is so dumb. "The best Mobile OS" is the one that is better for your preferred experience, both were made for different types of users, just like you said in the video, so fighting for "the best one" is just straight up pointless.
About this video: It's pretty informative and I learned some pros of Android that I didn't know about it! I personally not into Smartphone OSs, but really like to watch your videos about then! I'm looking forward to your video about iOS! :D
That's interesting to read because it's kinda the opposite of what I'd seen. Which state are you from? I was in Pernambuco earlier this year and I learned that iPhones are very desirable there because the Activation Lock feature makes thieves want to avoid stealing them since the phone can become an unsellable paperweight in an instant if the owner activates it.
@@Some-guy-on-the-internet I'm from Bahia
@@StarLotus Fascinating. For a state right next to PE, I would've expected the general views on iPhones to be similar. Maybe what I saw is a very recent phenomenon that's currently isolated to just a few places.
@@Some-guy-on-the-internet Yeah, I think that's the reason why.
i was really looking forward for a new video, love your channel
Apple has a big advantage over Android which is their ecosystem, all rounded is a nice idea. But, it traps you into following their rules making everything simple, seamless and pretty. But you never know what's behind the courtain.
The consistency is also a nice touch, making everything familiar is somewhat appreciated.
I tried an iPhone before and a first glance, it was alien to me compared to any android i've used from different brands. It made everything so simple, yet so complicated to use. Take for example the Home Screen, you have trillions of applications presented in one single screen, no way to select which ones you want on the main screen, the taskbar may work but it's not enough.
At the end, I think it just comes to preferences. I choose and android with a simple custom open source rom. And because I do some development in here so, yeah it fit my needs. But I could perfectly use an iPhone too, the most interesting thing I normally do is watch RUclips and so some calls. But iPhone are somewhat expensive just to do that.
Em, you can remove and rearrange apps from main screen on iOS
We literally have an ecosystem like that...this argument is tired as well. I wish it was in the video. Windows exists.
@@iriemonmonalso Google's Ecosystem >>>>>>>>>> Apple's Ecosystem
If you like graphical design for software you should check Linux's many desktop environment and window managers like gnome and kde there's a lot of design there
I got an iphone for work last year. On the same day I had to extract a zip file. I learned that zip files apparently don't exist for apple like at all so I returned it for an Android the same day.
Been an Apple user all my life, but I've always had a lot of understanding for Android. There's no comparing the two operating systems, really - it all just comes down to preference, and each one offers its own great features. I for one envy Android users for having so much freedom, hah. At least iOS devices are jailbreakable.
One thing I really miss about Android is the brand variety, so many brands died and now it’s only Samsung or Chinese brands sadly. On my country Pixel never came or even Sony stopped selling phones here, I never got why Pixel only sells on select markets :/
I really miss my Sony Xperia Z3, it had a an Android experience refined by Sony, it was super cool, and always super snappy with awesome features!
But yeah for now, the best for me is the iPhone, if Sony still made phones would be an option, but I really don’t like any of the current Android options.
ahh I love your channel. It really feels like I'm watching RUclips in 2010. Original, planned, well thought out content.
As someone frome Europe, I have literally never heard about this arguments because everyone in Europe uses android
I always get so exited to see a new upload!!
I loved this video, thank you, if you'd like to do a special video on Samsung and OneUI or samsungs evolution that could be cool? great video 😆👏
On point #1, as a lifelong android user, I am always furious whenever the UI of the system, or even an app's UI changes seemingly for no reason at all.
I can get behind and live with a major UI change every time I upgrade my phone, but some things should have a toggle and have no reason to change.
Two things that come to mind are the lock screen clock. Until 13 (I think?) the clock read like al digital clocks do on the lock screen. After that, if there are no notifications on the lock screen, the clock is giant and in two rows... Stupid. Especially when the clock goes back to the old style when there are notifications there!
Secondly, I did not like how they consolidated the wifi and mobile data buttons into one 'internet' button. There was a way to get it back, but that was removed in the next version.
I'm all for change, but not for the sake of change. If it isn't broken, don't try to fix it
So good to see another video from this channel, how has it already been one year since your first video?! The way you articulate your speech is calm, inviting and very informative. Not once have I been disappointed by any of your videos!
On the topic of this video itself, I am a "techie" guy, hence why I have the Galaxy S20+. Personally, I find android to be of more value than IOS as it is more customisable, mostly faster and different. Meanwhile, IOS users find value in their products because of their stability, security and familiarity. Here in Australia, IOS is by far the dominant phone OS, lately however, I have seen more android phones in the hands of higher-profile people, which is great!
In my experience, my brothers iPhone 11 actually encounters more crashes and glitches than my S20+ does.
my biggest criticism of android is how far it is from the linux kernel it's based on, instead of using standardized stuff used on all kinds of UNIX based operating systems for decades, google decided to reinvent the wheel
also the diversity in androids can be a bit of a problem, i remember way back in the day when i couldn't play some games because thy expected the touchscreen to support more than two fingers, which my super cheap phone didn't have, when i know a lot about a certain class of devices, be them phones or specialized circuit boards, i usually opt in for the cheapest possible choice, because i know what i'm doing and what to expect, while some less advanced consumers may feel scammed as they paid for a device they expected to support something it doesn't
generally the experience is more about what brand you choose, for example i'd rather kill myself than use a samsung with all possible samsung and google bloatware, that's why i choose brands that have something very close to stock AOSP
also the status thing is a double edged sword, for example here in serbia, where a basic iphone is like 3 or 4 average monthly wages, many people buy status symbols like iphones or expensive cars, and it's usually the poorer that like to show off in such a destructive way, that's why the country with the most mercedes cars per capita is one of the poorest countries in europe: albania, so there are also many people like me that will judge someone if they own an iphone but can barely afford to live
it's just plain stupidity and an unhealthy desire to follow western trends, here the culture of piracy, freedom to do whatever with your device, getting the most for your money, and even general hatred towards anything western, make cheap chinese phones the rational choice, xiaomi and huawei are extremely popular, so much so that almost all "loyalty apps" from serbian stores and businesses are published in the huawei app store, it's an interesting fact i accidentally realized
I get why the developers of Android chose to use things like SurfaceFlinger instead of X11 or Wayland (no) but they have changed so much they might as well just make their own kernel lol
im never using android 11 or more because the removal of accesing data folder hit my heart and shattered it,im not using android 11+ anymore!!!
I think your the best youtuber to talk about android. In fact. i think you the only person/youtuber to not make fun of ios users and make fun of them for their kind of phone. most of the time i hear youtubers or people i know saying "IOs Is FoR pEoPLe WHo Are STUPID, SWITCH TO ANDROID iTS bEttER"
Unless you live in a poor country
As someone once said.
"If you trade freedom for safety, you'll end with neither. If you trade safety for freedom you'll get some of both."
5:01 TRUEE, I hate those products so much. I don't understand why so many people want to buy something extremely overpriced just as a status symbol, when you can get something for way less that is so much cooler.
Yay new video 🙌
As an android user, I do think IOS looks better, is more user friendly and generally just has good UI - and I wish android UI was as good.
But android definitely has some features that apple doesn't have, which is also pretty great.
I am not gonna pick a team and stubbornly say that's the best one. Both have qualities and I could see myself using both in the future.
i think the real issue is just that android doesn’t integrate well with iphones. like green bubbles and not being able to add people to group chats with android users makes it less enticing to get an android because it is so inconvenient socially
the green bubble thing is the most idiotic thing that i've heard people say, that and everyone has more than one way to message people now so i'm sure they can make a group for everyone on something else. the problem just sounds so whiny and pointless.
Man, I wish there was a video like this for Windows Phone
Hey I love your content. it's just like the algorithm showed me the right channel
Love your content please 😘 continue the good work 🤠
this is a seriously underrated channel, love your videos
There is no other RUclips video which explains about UI designing better than you
As a android user. I agree with what you're saying if you don't like the style of android there are some ways to get around this and cheap android sometimes for more worth it than iphones you don't have to spend thousands of dollars just for iphone android already has enough features you need
Yeah, I definitely agree with those points. Great job!
Really interesting, the editing is really smooth, keep going !
Also I didnt know you could replace stock Android, going to do it as soon as possible.
I would like to give you a more detailled criticism and point out little flaws, but since it's concise and straight to the point I dont have much to say, it's uust really nice :)
You made me love Frutigor Aero and Frutigor Metro❤️
“Android is glued together”
Android comes from the Linux kernel, more specifically, Gentoo.
iOS and macOS come from:
- Darwin
- NEXTStep
- BSD
- POSIX
- UNIX
- Mac OS 9
So, Android is a lot less of a Frankenstein.
Ayy the best UI content creator uploaded! I am not sure if you were there for the "golden age" of Android rooting several years back. I got a Galaxy Nexus with Jelly Bean as my first smart phone. Cyanogenmod, AKOP, Paranoid, and OmniRom were some of the popular custom Android ROMs. I was amazed that there was such a large community dedicated to making these custom, open source flavors of Android. I had fun playing and using some of them. Unfortunately, these days a lot phone makers try to make it difficult to install custom ROMs and some manufactures will void the warranty, but you can get around this by reverting back to stock Android.... just dont brick your device by mistake. I like the part where you discuss the freedom users have over they device. This is one of the reasons why I love Linux. This video makes me want to try to install a custom ROM again on my phone... Cyanogenmod lives on in LinageOS. Thanks again for another awesome video, Undefined! 🐧📱🌱
For a little while, my mom was the only one in our family using iOS (it was an older iphone so what I say could be out of date). Imo it was so confusing to me to use. I'm more used to Windows/video games where the settings are individually in each application. The fact that every app's settings were in the setting app on iOS makes sense, I suppose? But to me it was definitely an adjustment to get used to.
And I really like having the "buttons" on the bottom of almost every app in Android. It grounds the whole experience and lets me know I can usually just hit the back button if I need to get out of a page, etc.
And I like having the ability to easily install apps that aren't on the built in store. Since I play some foreign games too.
Another amazing video
Your content is top notch!
omg i love you undefined
I am an IOS User. But i loved Android while using it. But i switched back to the Iphone because of the Ecosystem works better for me.
I personally pick android phones for the simple fact that iPhones don't have SD card slots. Holding me hostage to a cloud service is something I will never agree to.
99 cents a month. i could literally find that on the street
it brings me great joy being the one stubborn little bugger in my family who always buys whichever cheap nokia is available instead of buying a new iphone like the rest of them have. apple makes some cool stuff and it's beautiful how seamlessly two apple products will sync up and work with each other, but oh my GOD does everything else about them annoy the hell out of me.
i love my nokia. sure, there are times where it acts like a stupid piece of shit that never does the goddamn thing it's fucking supposed to, but that's part of the charm. and also partially my fault for disabling important stuff in the name of... uh... battery life or something. but that's part of the beauty of android.
I have found someone who understands. This is truly a masterpiece of a video, including the fact that Undefined didn't try to humble any opinion or put one down, just pure awesome. I will forever love this creator
I love your editing style! Everything stays on screen for just the enough amount of time and the video flows like the sea!
This is probably my favorite RUclips channel. Just ever. I binged watched all your videos home sick one night and felt so interested in everything
I have an idea for a way too specific deep-dive: Open Source projects' brand identities. What are the best/worst ones, how were they created and why are they generally worse than proprietary companies' (when in my experience the products are usually just as good and well tought out)
I had Androids for years when I was poor as a kid. I got an iPhone and never looked back, airdrop and other little features are so useful.
Same
I've always seen iOS as the phone for people who like straight forward simplicity, whereas Android was always for people who preferred customization and the ability to run non-standardized software.
Here in Europe, the iPhone has become more and more popular, but it certainly doesn't go as far as judging people by their phone. I love flexing with my transparent, customized phone knowing I've chosen the right thing for me
Listen, I'm a huge Apple boi, all my stuff is Apple, besides most of my pcs, all though my laptop is a MacBook, but I have to say, Android isn't a bad OS. It gets a bad wrap because of some of the genuine e-waste some of the phones are. Most Androids are great, but you just need to find a decent phone. I used to have an S9 actually, and it is still one of my favorite phones!
It’s fun from an EU perspective you get wired looks at you having an iOS Device because why you spend so much money if you can have an Android based device which can do it all for cheap (which is only partly true)
I've been using Android since 1.6 Donut and honetly I don't understand why iPhones are as popular as they are, if anything they feel less user friendly, but maybe thats just because I'm not used to iOS
This is really good I have a android jellybean theme on my phone and your awesome
Android is simply what you make of it. My Phone is probably the coolest thing I own, so many features and so many possibilities. The average person who doesn't know anything about tech, will not understand it and be overwhelmed, but because of its potential alone android is so much more advanced than ios.
the main reason I don't use android is because I hate google. I don't hate android but I prefer IOS. I like the freedom, but that's why I like jailbreak. At the end of the day, it all depends on preference. There is no "better operating system" only one that is better for you.
as both, a former android user and a current iOS user, i completely agree to all of these points.
most ppl just criticise android coz they've never used it or they're just iOS fanatics, however the WORLD of customization on android phones is beyond this world.
i still have my redmi note 9s rn i have it on miui but oh lord the amount of custom roms i've installed lol had a couple of soft bricks too, but that's the fun of it all lol
just switched to iOS coz i like the simplicity and it makes it easier to transfer files since i have a mac
I just came here for the silly android promotional art and animations. Company mascots are a nostalgic relic these days, and I definitely miss em.
I feel like a lot of people think that every single android phone performs like those shitty $100 LG/Motorola phones you can find everywhere at carrier stores here in the states because that's what they were used to seeing or using growing up... because theres always been either very little or no senses of distinct "hardware classes" in the iphone world if that makes sense - like there's no apple made Snapdragon 4 or 6 series-powered iphone equivalent if that makes any sense
I think iOS limits control when it comes to one handed usage, especially on larger displays. Take Windows Phone for example: It gives You full control when it comes with one handed usage and almost NOTHING that You need to tap directly is at the top meanwhile iOASS has everything at tthe top. Android is also very well optimized for one handed usage.
tbh i really like andriod's UI, like the squares in it, its just looks good to me. It reminds me of the areo pictures, it looks clean, ios is really good too i like its features and its style, android and ios are really good phones. But for me i'll go with android at most. God bless yall :)
this channel is so cozy
Can agree
Imo android doesn't give you that much control, I'm a Linux user on desktop and I gotta say that android is easy to use and stable like iOS and doesn't feel truly customisable in the way Linux does, I'm an android user right now but I'm really excited for the development of Linux phones in the future - I mean pure Linux, not just a modified android build - no Google, no proprietary software (although Google services are admittedly nice to have)
I've always been an iOS person since the iPhone 4, but I absolutely respect Android, especially the older versions and I get super annoyed when I hear iOS people going "androids are for poor people" or "android is clunky and sucks" like, learn before you speak.
When you use them both, you love them both
I personally am an iPhone user since i got my first phone and i really have to agree with you in nearly any point. I also think that you should choose your os on which you prefer more!!
I think one of the best parts of Android is its customization potential. With iOS, you're kinda stuck with the way it looks, but with Android you can get to customize it to make your own wacky layouts, designed by you, for you.
I have no shame in buying higher end android phones but it makes me happy because of the speed and wonderful cameras.
Found your channel today and binged all of the videos in one go. Love your voice and clear delivery :)
I recently got my first ever iPhone as a second phone to my s21 and for me some parts of os wasn't as intuitive as I thought it would be. I am amazed by the animations tho but I think in android world it depends on vendor. so I think it all comes down to the fact that the best os for you is the one that you already have on your phone.
I want my phone to work perfectly all the time, iOS is reliable and perfect for work.
The only people complaining how bad iOS/Apple is are people with other phones/systems. A lot of iPhone users don‘t need to do this, they just happy with a working product and a top service around the corner with real people helping you asap.
iOS has good things, and it also has problems, same goes for android, nothing is perfect in this world
This is a really good video. Finally someone explains perfectly what I always thought about this debate!
Arguing over different OS is the most stupid thing I see people do. And they do it all the time.
A more accurate title would be iPhone fanboys are deluded
You mentioning Androids being cheap was one of the reasons I was initially put off of them years ago. When I was getting my first phone for my 11th birthday my parents went and got me an iPhone 6. My mom did ask me at one point though if I wanted an android. I said no not because I hated android, but because I was worried that they would have gotten me a cheap plastic model. Had they offered me a Galaxy S7 or something premium like that though I would have accepted.
as a long time android user, the fact that people would get pissy because you prefer android over iphone is the most stupidest thing ever
not only that, it's also quite funny that the reason they hate android so much is not because of everything else, but because it's doesn't have a good quality camera, even though companies like Samsung have better cameras for their latest phones among any other company that produces phone with android in them
people need to stop treating android like shite and make amends with the android users
I first found your channel through the first frutiger aero video, and have been a big fan since. Wish you all the luck!
I've been saying this... FOR YEARS