How backwards is our culture where people are expected to do time over someone who initiated harm on you and killed your boy. You tell your version of the story you don't go to jail and the person who tried to end your life is actually held responsible for their crime. This is why our people stay in last place over these rules that no one can reference, no one understands and few follow.
I understand why you saying this because the only side you have heard is Troy, but EVERYONE ELSE that was there said Troy started the altercation even Bangas brother, now Troy wants to snitch so he doesn't get in trouble for the shit he started and also bringing 2 guns with him
Troy is on the stand because they (taxstones defence) are accusing troy of killing his own mans, so is that not snitching from tax? Maybe if Tax didnt “snitch” on troy then troy wouldnt have to take the stand
There all goofy there just so gangsta no snitchin even if sum one's trying to put you in prison all of yhese would snitch before they got to the station
Can u see yourself putting yourself in harms way for that to even happen? We can’t speak from the eyes of a civilian . Of course normal common sense applies for our point of view. But if u proclaim to be some super thug and big time drug dealer, there’s certain things u are Doppler to love by . Plain and simple. Is it dumb? Absolutely. But it’s principle and it’s a test of character
joe never said he knew tax to be the killer but even if he did he could also think tax isnt wrong for what he did because banga attacked him first whilst also being empaphetic that banga lost his life
@@johnmiller3970 no, if you're in your twenties it's a little bit more understandable that you might be a bit more immature and have some growing up to do...
So flip is basically saying he'd rather they handle it on the street 🤔 . Then after somebody else dies he'll be on his YT saying we need to stop the senseless violence 😂😂 Lost niggas 💯
@@seandon9515 taxstone was the aggressor bringing a gun in a crowded venue . Claiming he didn’t know Troy Ave wasn’t there killing 1, and shooting others.
Shout out to the People who are conveniently leaving out the fact the Taxstone’s defense is that Troy Ave shot Banga and the other woman, since Troy is the only one on camera with a gun. So how is that not snitching? Why would I let someone lie on me to save themselves and then call me a snitch when I expose their lie 😂
@@businessbuilder92 You must be dense af. So tax's DNA magically got inside the gun and Troy Ave shot himself and killed his own bodyguard just to frame tax? You must have no idea what deductive reasoning is. Smh
@budro2bgr3 that's why being in the streets is stupid. The logic of these gangsters is ridiculous. Nobody can tell me the history of cooperation and why it's not good to tell on your enemy. The greatest victory is the one that requires no battle.
On some real shit. Both sides talked shit. But I would never sneak a gun in the club and use it because somebody wanted to throw hands. I have no respect for that. I don't give a damn. Thats a menace in my book. I don't need that in my neighborhood. Shoot the fair one or sit down and piss
The problem is lack of accountability dont lead your people astray after putting them in a bad position and now all of a sudden “the streets is a myth” ONLY WHEN IT BENEFITS YOU
Exactly. That's why (well, ONE of the reasons why lol and I 1000% agree with Joe about Troy) Joe said that nigga is, was, and will probably always be a fucking doof...
So what these guys are saying is “I don’t agree with this, I feel like Troy should’ve let the guy that killed his best friend free and he do the time for it” lmao so stupid
@WelcomeToThe92503 Your lawyer does what you tell them to do and or you have to agree to any actions. Like the op said Tax wrote a letter to the judge blaming troy !
Troy ave started it… like literally… and then chased taxstone shooting in a packed club… and then…. Kept the guns on him stupidly for the police to find. And is now telling to lessen his sentence.
@@banksgf so that's not okay but it's okay to sick your security on someone who wasn't already attacking you just because they happen to exist in the same building as you?
A real man would admit that Troy is right in this situation - any other thought is someone like Flip feeling like he has to prove something to the streets - Flip doesnt believe in street rules - he says he does cuz he's from Queenz - but if he did - he would get back at that guy who broke his jaw - just be a man
What real man runs from his charges. He had 2 illegal guns in his car, 1 wasnt his and he was shooting into a crowd and hit 2 ppl 😂 so we gonna look past all that n have sympathy for him because his mans got smoked lol he the one told his mans to punch tax. Ya weird af
A real man would’ve taken his time for getting caught on camera shooting a gun in a club and then getting caught with said gun. Yall are acting like Troy snitched to get justice for his friend but fail to mention Banga got shot because of Troy’s actions. Then testified to avoid going to prison. You’re a real sucker, Brian.
@@ewokevad the guns in the cars were in the car .. he shot with tax gun... tax went on to snitch with his letter to the judge . So since tax already decided to not honor street codes and try to blame Troy for all responsibility the courts subpoena Troy to tell his version or do 15 years for those 2 guns and paying for injuries ... once tax broke the code Troy then decided to break the as well ... nobody doing 15 years for an enemy and thas why the streets is a lie
What are you talking about??? Cass is still in jail how does he have good lawyers??? He’s on wiretaps and caught in a Rico case he’ll need more than lawyers he needs a judge DA and God to get off
They keep talking about street justice/politics like there are no unintended consequences. Two other people were shot that night who had nothing to do with that situation. What do they think will happen if Taxstone is free and his issues with Troy Ave continue? "Rest in peace" is turning into the hiphop equivalent of "Thoughts and prayers".
@zorak Tax felt the need to go out there with a gun because he started shit with a guy and wouldn't stop running his mouth and innocent people got caught in the crossfire. Clearly that went over your head.
This de-evolution of common sense due to this "no snitching" rhetoric is beyond me. I never cared for Troy Ave. But these 2 are mortal ENEMIES. Not friends.Troy is supposed do time for a man he hates? Never did dirt with? Thats snitching? Tell me it ain't so.
What Queen’s said I didn’t expect him to be that kinda dude that knows how this was supposed to be handled but hats off to flip, much respect for that.
Queenzflip I seen where you tried to ask Joe Budden was it personal and he danced all around it I know what you was trying to ask him Joe don't really dance around questions too much but he danced around that one because I'm pretty sure he knew what queenzflip was talking about
Facts Tax killed Troy homie & shot Troy.If Troy doesn’t give his side he goes to jail it doesn’t make any sense.The so called street code doesn’t make any sense
NO ONE IS BREAKING THIS DOWN CORRECTLY!!! HOW DOES TROY AVE NOT TAKE THE STAND!!!! IF HE DOESNT TAKE THE STAND THEY WASH HIM WITH A GUN CHARGE, SHOOTING IN A CROWD, HIS BESTFIRENDS DEATH, AND SHOOTING HISELF!! i get the street code but im not taking a murder charge for someone who is my enemy who shot my best friend AND me! im not doing it.
How you tell somebody to not say their side, which would’ve kept you in prison longer and then take matters into your own hands later on and possibly go to prison for even longer??? Absolutely idiotic logic…
Atleast the conversation was objective and talked about from each and everyway unlike some people speaking on this and acting like they don’t know everything about this shit like how Ice and Flip was trying to act at first; we all know the story and it’s very easy to understand and follow along
@@HowItIs2424 the dumbest shit I ever heard Flip say…. Homie really said I wish they Troy didn’t take the stand, Tax get out and they handle it in the streets 🤦🏿♂️
When people say they "come for streets" isn't there levels? For example..You just lived in the hood or you sold a couple dime bags, or you were mule a couple times or you did petty theft or you were part of gang that shoots and has actual beef with rival gangs, and it goes deeper and deeper. There's levels and do the rules apply to all levels of street life?
Yeah but even in a self defense situation you can’t shoot a gun at a person clearly running away, that’s one of things you learn being a License gun carrier. In addition he did it in a crowed area.
@@HUSTLINKASH you never know what’s going on in a person’s mind. And if you haven’t seen the camera footage. Then you must not understand what was going down
How was it self defense when he approached Tax first ? And started it and yes tax was talking shit but that’s internet shit Troy she’s decided to run down on him when he saw him in person you have to take what comes with that he didn’t know what Tax was capable of
We are in a lose/lose culture. We keep having it both ways, we will never progress. One minute hip hop is just entertainment the next every word you say you have to stand on. When are we allowed to progress? Hip hop as a culture and genre has to evolve.
Troy already told everyone he was telling and rap is just entertainment. A man lost his life that night. That man's family will never be able to see him again. If Tax really killed that man, he has to do that time. That is justice.
RIP Banga but if you let another grown man tell you to attack someone and you do it whatever happens after is on you. It’s kind of crazy Casanova supposedly talk Tax into going to the club when he didn’t want to. Did Casanova know that Troy was going to be there and know that Tax had the thing on him? Where was Cass when Banga supposedly approached Tax? Did Cass set this thing up? I’m just asking questions that nobody I’ve seen ask.
The expectations from complete strangers to do extra time for any reason is ridiculous… people make mistakes and time is the most valuable thing we have In life.
(If these are the facts) A man's friend was murdered and the guy who did it is blaming the friend so there's a chance that you could go to do some heavy time behind the murder of your own friend and you're not supposed to say anything 🙄🙄🙄
@@matthewsnic1 I didn't say that. I literally am only speaking about the part Joe said. His testifying part is what he feels is the best and right thing to do.
REMEMBER WHEN TROY WAS CALLIN NIGGAS WEIRD FOR BEING DEPRESSED THEN HIS BESTFRIEND GETS SMOKED N THEN HE DEPRESSED LMFAO & THEN NOW HE TOLD AFTER SAYING "THE STREETS ARE A MYTH" NOOOOW THE STREETS ARE MYTH HA
@4:00 lemme get this str8 he would prefer nobody goes to court and they "settle it", how? in the streets? which would probably mean more deaths to people who aint involved in none of that bullshit. i wonder if people hear themselves talk?
BLack people need to get over this Mafia roleplay they are doing which started back in the day. Dudes dead and Tax 100 per cent started this whole situation for no reason at all, fuck him.
Right.. he's a actor..while he was on video with the hammer that was meant for him, shooting the club up while tough talking Tax was running for his life.... He ain't about that life though? Lol
Taxstone didn’t like Joe so it was crazy to sit there and watch Joe defend him . Troy dissed Joe and made a song about him that was pretty funny 😂😂😂 if you haven’t heard it you should go check it out .
How can you RIP someone and FREE their murderer in the same breath?
Nonsensical shit….🤦🏿♂️
Exact 🤦🏾♂️
Then call the other guy a goofy who defended his life.. joe is a clown
Allegitly!
Joe goofy for that
free tax stone and saying rest in peace banger in the same sentence is crazy to me.
FACTS. Weird ass media Joe
RIGHT 🤦🏿♂️
Facts‼️‼️
JOE A SUPER LAME "DOOFIS"
FACTSSS . Pick a side
How backwards is our culture where people are expected to do time over someone who initiated harm on you and killed your boy. You tell your version of the story you don't go to jail and the person who tried to end your life is actually held responsible for their crime. This is why our people stay in last place over these rules that no one can reference, no one understands and few follow.
I understand why you saying this because the only side you have heard is Troy, but EVERYONE ELSE that was there said Troy started the altercation even Bangas brother, now Troy wants to snitch so he doesn't get in trouble for the shit he started and also bringing 2 guns with him
Brother, if you are a civilian tell if you claim the streets don't take the stand
PREACH!!!!!!
Because hoodlums and idiots were idolized. Niggas saw drug dealers and murderers and said "that's what life is supposed to be like".
@@awalovettepeter8099 all I hear is street dudes are slow
Troy is on the stand because they (taxstones defence) are accusing troy of killing his own mans, so is that not snitching from tax? Maybe if Tax didnt “snitch” on troy then troy wouldnt have to take the stand
There all goofy there just so gangsta no snitchin even if sum one's trying to put you in prison all of yhese would snitch before they got to the station
Yeah they have no clue what they're talking about. Typical ignorants fake tough guys.
I love he took the stand!! God is great and the paper is straight. Keep tax right where he’s at..!
I can’t ever see myself debating if it’s wrong to testify on the person that killed my friend/family.
That’s good, you can’t ever see yourself as a street nigga
Can u see yourself putting yourself in harms way for that to even happen? We can’t speak from the eyes of a civilian . Of course normal common sense applies for our point of view. But if u proclaim to be some super thug and big time drug dealer, there’s certain things u are Doppler to love by . Plain and simple. Is it dumb? Absolutely. But it’s principle and it’s a test of character
Troy a snitch😂😂😂
it is if previous to it happening you said you wouldnt
@@jshad1074 Ratstone a snitch too. Mr “why is Troy Ave free” 🤣
How can you say “Free Taxstone” and then in the next sentence say “Rest in Peace Banga” knowing tax killed banga ?
Street politics is crazy
Troy Ave Don't owe shit to tax but a bullet I'd took the stand too shid it ain't my gun with 3 bodies on it who Finna fest up to that
😂 Apparently that's how they get down
Facts that’s some clown stuff
joe never said he knew tax to be the killer but even if he did he could also think tax isnt wrong for what he did because banga attacked him first whilst also being empaphetic that banga lost his life
If you’re in your 30’s & older being concerned about who’s snitching you’re lost.Fuck the streets, rap game & any other destruction entity
Statements of a snitch😂
Big Facts!
So if you're in your 20's then it's cool?
Amen
@@johnmiller3970 no, if you're in your twenties it's a little bit more understandable that you might be a bit more immature and have some growing up to do...
Joe burden ain’t doing time for NOBODY 😂😂😂😂
Lol he hip hop so got to please the street ninjas who wouldn't take 25 bid themselves given an out
I can’t take these dudes seriously man 😂
They blindly speak on things out of ego
Which is old head shit
That's exactly what I was thinking
Tax alleged Troy did it, through a statement Tax’s lawyer made. That forced Troy to respond to deny those allegations.
That’s the part everybody leave out
Let the record reflect then
💯
Faxxxx
@@lynbomb1 these doofs bias as hell
So flip is basically saying he'd rather they handle it on the street 🤔 . Then after somebody else dies he'll be on his YT saying we need to stop the senseless violence 😂😂 Lost niggas 💯
Flip has been saying dumb shit on podcast his whole life.
Remedial thought process lol
Ikr or when that person who “handled it in the streets” gets a life sentence then he’ll be pushing for prison reform
They all wanted to be gangsters so let them be gangster
And then the - Free [insert name] of the murders. And WE GOTTA DO BETTER!
You want a man to come home after he catching a body but blame Troy Ave for standing his ground.
*niggaz is confusing*
Yeah they tripping on this one smh
Tax was actually standing his ground if you think about it ,right or wrong it’s safe to say he was attacked by Troy
@@seandon9515 taxstone was the aggressor bringing a gun in a crowded venue . Claiming he didn’t know Troy Ave wasn’t there killing 1, and shooting others.
@@seandon9515 anyone knows not to shoot into a crowd. Get these pussies off the street
Budden starting off saying Free Tax, RIP Banga is CRAAAAAZY
Joe ready to take Rory to court but acting like he won’t snitch on someone who kills his friend 🤡
Shout out to the People who are conveniently leaving out the fact the Taxstone’s defense is that Troy Ave shot Banga and the other woman, since Troy is the only one on camera with a gun. So how is that not snitching? Why would I let someone lie on me to save themselves and then call me a snitch when I expose their lie 😂
😂😂😂Facts
Facts tax made a statement first
I would do the same thing Troy did.
Exactly.. somehow no1 is talking about that part.. intentionally
Exactly. Like what are they talking about here. SMH.
Troy didn’t do anything wrong. Nygaz is contradictory bc they have love for Taxstone.
10:40 Flip’s reaction has me weak af!!! He’s so confused. 😂😂
Joe got on some restaurant slip resistant shoes😂😂😂
I was thinking the same thing! I just bought my daughter a pair for her new job as a server at a restaurant. 😂😂😂
@@oh_thats_kris congratulations on her new job💯 show her these shoes and tell her she's wearing designer to work 🤣🤣🤣
😂😂
Taxstone put himself in jail. Quit playing.
How you gon say free tax and RIP banga in the same sentence
"Free tax Stone" and "RIP Banga" are opposing energies 🤷🏿♂️
Wrong
Bc you are a ballistics expert of course
@@businessbuilder92 me? No. I just don’t see how they’re opposing energies. I want Taxstone free & wish Banga never died.
@@miggiti nah I meant to OP they must be a bullets expert to know who actually shot who without being there
@@businessbuilder92 You must be dense af. So tax's DNA magically got inside the gun and Troy Ave shot himself and killed his own bodyguard just to frame tax? You must have no idea what deductive reasoning is. Smh
The real Doof got his gun took and ran a 4.3 out the club
"I'd like to watch you for like... a day?"
"What wrong with this dude son? Yo!"
Why would he have any loyalty and do extra jail time for someone who tried to murk him? 🤔
Cuz I hope he gets free so I can get’em. Lol
It's a lifestyle he claimed to live by
Super Facts!!!
All these alleged street guys loyal to the so called code. GTFOH!!!
@@awalovettepeter8099 they don’t get it. You kill my mans and try to kill me then prison not gonna avenge that for me. I gotta take you outta here.
Exactly that's not his co-d
It is crazy how they rationalize a murder and Troy not taking the stand. If they truly feel that way, I'm glad they are not my homies
And Flip saying- handle it another way, is truly saying that Tax's murder is the correct way for this to play out.
@budro2bgr3 that's why being in the streets is stupid. The logic of these gangsters is ridiculous. Nobody can tell me the history of cooperation and why it's not good to tell on your enemy. The greatest victory is the one that requires no battle.
@@williesimmons4068 EXACTLY... anybody saying they won't take the stand in their own best interest is goofy, unintelligent and/ or lying..period..
seriously, i'm glad they are exposing themselves for the fools they are
On some real shit. Both sides talked shit. But I would never sneak a gun in the club and use it because somebody wanted to throw hands. I have no respect for that. I don't give a damn. Thats a menace in my book. I don't need that in my neighborhood. Shoot the fair one or sit down and piss
Tax wrote a letter to the judge before Troy took the stand 😂😂
SAY IT AGAIN!!!! PPL FORGET THIS IMPORTANT PART!!!!!!!
He didn't, the lawyer did
@@504gucci4 that means he cosigned it
@@504gucci4 who was paying Taxstone's attorney?
That was for a bail hearing that wasn’t him snitching
The problem is lack of accountability dont lead your people astray after putting them in a bad position and now all of a sudden “the streets is a myth” ONLY WHEN IT BENEFITS YOU
Exactly. That's why (well, ONE of the reasons why lol and I 1000% agree with Joe about Troy) Joe said that nigga is, was, and will probably always be a fucking doof...
You talking about black people so accountability ain't in the ghetto dictionary
Soon as somebody say “I don’t know much about the situation” I stop listening because get informed fam lol
So what these guys are saying is “I don’t agree with this, I feel like Troy should’ve let the guy that killed his best friend free and he do the time for it” lmao so stupid
It’s becoming unwatchable
That's pretty much what they're saying
But then, at the very end, Joe says he would probably do the same thing
@@JM-qn3tf i fuck wit joe but mann he be lying snd he a hater.. and can never admit when he's wrong
No, they are saying if Troy Ave claimed the streets it is hypocritical for him to cooperate with the law at his convenience.
Y’all Need Charleston White To Come Up Here & Explain These Type Of Situations. 😂😂😂
Stop mentioning that weirdo
Not really
I'm not doing 15 years for the dude that killed my man.
Don't beef then
@zorak taxstone was the one beefing, and ADMITTED on numerous platforms that he was bullying troy ave! Troy wasn't saying shit
Dont run down on him then.
Troy shot into a crowd of people he’s doing time regardless
That’s why u a rat 😂😂
By this logic rap lyrics should be admissible in court .
I mean if you can prove it is actually admitting to crimes then yes you should
Bingo.
They are!! Look at young thug smh
"I would have preferred Tax come home and it been handled different." WTF is this logic, it's sad is what it is.
civilians sayin they don’t agree with taking the stand 😂😂😂
Tax also wrote a letter to the judge blaming Troy Ave.
False his lawyer did that
@@broadwaybiz211 on his behave
@@broadwaybiz211 where would the lawyer get that information? Be real lmao
@@hammertimejames5511 ummhhh.. the literal video of troyave shooting him.. with taxstone running away
@WelcomeToThe92503 Your lawyer does what you tell them to do and or you have to agree to any actions. Like the op said Tax wrote a letter to the judge blaming troy !
*Save yourself Troy. You don't have to follow anyone's rules. Nobody cares either way.*
Son I hate these grown civilians pushing that narrative Troy a whole businessman but yet we talking street code that doesn’t even exist 😂
How about stay out the streets.
Troy ave started it… like literally… and then chased taxstone shooting in a packed club… and then…. Kept the guns on him stupidly for the police to find.
And is now telling to lessen his sentence.
@@banksgf 😂 You got it…
@@banksgf so that's not okay but it's okay to sick your security on someone who wasn't already attacking you just because they happen to exist in the same building as you?
A real man would admit that Troy is right in this situation - any other thought is someone like Flip feeling like he has to prove something to the streets - Flip doesnt believe in street rules - he says he does cuz he's from Queenz - but if he did - he would get back at that guy who broke his jaw - just be a man
What real man runs from his charges. He had 2 illegal guns in his car, 1 wasnt his and he was shooting into a crowd and hit 2 ppl 😂 so we gonna look past all that n have sympathy for him because his mans got smoked lol he the one told his mans to punch tax. Ya weird af
@@ewokevad no - weird is not testifying against someone that tried to kill you because you're afraid of what the internet might say
Damn. I dont follow these dudes like that. Is there a video detailing how Flip got his jaw cracked 😂😂😂
A real man would’ve taken his time for getting caught on camera shooting a gun in a club and then getting caught with said gun. Yall are acting like Troy snitched to get justice for his friend but fail to mention Banga got shot because of Troy’s actions. Then testified to avoid going to prison. You’re a real sucker, Brian.
@@ewokevad the guns in the cars were in the car .. he shot with tax gun... tax went on to snitch with his letter to the judge . So since tax already decided to not honor street codes and try to blame Troy for all responsibility the courts subpoena Troy to tell his version or do 15 years for those 2 guns and paying for injuries ... once tax broke the code Troy then decided to break the as well ... nobody doing 15 years for an enemy and thas why the streets is a lie
Cass told and Taxstone told Troy Ave is a rapper at work and wasn’t committing any crimes and got a gun pulled and defended himself
What are you talking about??? Cass is still in jail how does he have good lawyers??? He’s on wiretaps and caught in a Rico case he’ll need more than lawyers he needs a judge DA and God to get off
@@brownhippiex496 Cassidy doesn’t have anything to do with this situation… I’m talking about Casanova
I never understood why the dislike for Troy he's a citizen that does music.
They keep talking about street justice/politics like there are no unintended consequences. Two other people were shot that night who had nothing to do with that situation. What do they think will happen if Taxstone is free and his issues with Troy Ave continue?
"Rest in peace" is turning into the hiphop equivalent of "Thoughts and prayers".
You think tax went there to die in a gunfight seriously?
@zorak Tax felt the need to go out there with a gun because he started shit with a guy and wouldn't stop running his mouth and innocent people got caught in the crossfire. Clearly that went over your head.
Flip is hilarious acting like he wouldn’t be on the stand doing the same exact thing
Flip is a gangsta he changed up his image he pulled out & shot a couple niggas … everybody in queens know that
His family wouldn't allow that
Facts
i dont think he would web and nitty wouldnt allow it lol
NY is stupit
This de-evolution of common sense due to this "no snitching" rhetoric is beyond me. I never cared for Troy Ave. But these 2 are mortal ENEMIES. Not friends.Troy is supposed do time for a man he hates? Never did dirt with? Thats snitching? Tell me it ain't so.
Bro I was thinking the same thing.
What Queen’s said I didn’t expect him to be that kinda dude that knows how this was supposed to be handled but hats off to flip, much respect for that.
Bro is 40 years old talking bout don’t show up to court 😂
If troy ain't lying then he doing the right thing.
Queenzflip I seen where you tried to ask Joe Budden was it personal and he danced all around it I know what you was trying to ask him Joe don't really dance around questions too much but he danced around that one because I'm pretty sure he knew what queenzflip was talking about
This is GOOFY... there are no rules in the streets. I'd send Tax to jail.
Facts Tax killed Troy homie & shot Troy.If Troy doesn’t give his side he goes to jail it doesn’t make any sense.The so called street code doesn’t make any sense
This definitely got under your skin because you normally wouldn’t comment on this type of nonsense
Facts I agree 💯💯
Agreed!!
You say "Free Taxstone” and then in the next sentence say “Rest in Peace Banga” You the doof, Joe. SMH
Saying free taxstone and rip banga is crazy NY niggas down bad
I’m glad he thought of his kids an family then putting the streets first
Joe was salty about that pill head shit..😂😂😂
Truth hurts
FACTS
Rip to the young man that lost his life .. my condolences 💐 to the family.. where there Death there’s Rebirth..
Buddens pants are perfect for the Free Taxstone and RIP in the same breath.
Using the word civilian is weird when you haven’t been in the military
If Joe woulda kept it real about Troy and Cyn Santana's relationship like Flip was tryna get him to do, i woulda respected it more but.....😒😐🙄
take 15 years, while his ops go free? not sure bruh
Queens flip said he would have liked to see it dealt with differently but if tax comes home and Troy ave comes home someone else will get shot
They aren't rabbit animals...
@@businessbuilder92 according to this case that’s how they acted
Love to see what Joe would do in this situation
Joe is snitching without a situation as pressurized as this one.
Tell 🤷🏾♂️
The only question here is would Joe doe a 25 bid in rikers for his enemy just to keep it street ? LoL joe budden doing 25 to keep it street 👀👀🤣🤣🤣🤣
NO ONE IS BREAKING THIS DOWN CORRECTLY!!! HOW DOES TROY AVE NOT TAKE THE STAND!!!! IF HE DOESNT TAKE THE STAND THEY WASH HIM WITH A GUN CHARGE, SHOOTING IN A CROWD, HIS BESTFIRENDS DEATH, AND SHOOTING HISELF!! i get the street code but im not taking a murder charge for someone who is my enemy who shot my best friend AND me! im not doing it.
How you tell somebody to not say their side, which would’ve kept you in prison longer and then take matters into your own hands later on and possibly go to prison for even longer??? Absolutely idiotic logic…
If it's not the truth...
Atleast the conversation was objective and talked about from each and everyway unlike some people speaking on this and acting like they don’t know everything about this shit like how Ice and Flip was trying to act at first; we all know the story and it’s very easy to understand and follow along
"Don't snitch. Even if it means you stay in jail and your homeboys murderer gets to walk. Stay street."
Sounds like a boondocks skit
Morons 😂
Flip basically said i would prefer these guys shoot it out in the street and possibly murder a innocent 😂😂😂😂 lord
Fuck that
@@HowItIs2424 the dumbest shit I ever heard Flip say…. Homie really said I wish they Troy didn’t take the stand, Tax get out and they handle it in the streets 🤦🏿♂️
I’m a part of the show I love the joe and the team but how can you say free tax and rip bangs in the same sentence?
When people say they "come for streets" isn't there levels? For example..You just lived in the hood or you sold a couple dime bags, or you were mule a couple times or you did petty theft or you were part of gang that shoots and has actual beef with rival gangs, and it goes deeper and deeper. There's levels and do the rules apply to all levels of street life?
15 years or be a tax paying citizen because you was put into a self defense situation.
Yeah but even in a self defense situation you can’t shoot a gun at a person clearly running away, that’s one of things you learn being a License gun carrier. In addition he did it in a crowed area.
@@HUSTLINKASH you never know what’s going on in a person’s mind. And if you haven’t seen the camera footage. Then you must not understand what was going down
How was it self defense when he approached Tax first ? And started it and yes tax was talking shit but that’s internet shit Troy she’s decided to run down on him when he saw him in person you have to take what comes with that he didn’t know what Tax was capable of
@@donaldb93 At the end of the day, it only matter what that black & white say in a courtroom. Jail is jail, outside is outside
@@52STLULU you right about that 💯
We are in a lose/lose culture. We keep having it both ways, we will never progress. One minute hip hop is just entertainment the next every word you say you have to stand on. When are we allowed to progress? Hip hop as a culture and genre has to evolve.
Troy already told everyone he was telling and rap is just entertainment. A man lost his life that night. That man's family will never be able to see him again. If Tax really killed that man, he has to do that time. That is justice.
They really want Troy to do time and he never killed anyone
Tax was about to whip Joe ass on his show lol😂
How you say free Taxstone and RIP Banga in the same sentence? This dude has CTE
I love how I forget the white kid is even there then 10 minutes in he says a word and I’m like who the fuck is that😂
Joe Budden the only person seeing it from both sides....even tho him and Troy don't see eye to eye
Aint no both sides 😂 he was shooting recklessly into a crowd.. and had 2 guns in his car. That his charges
@@ewokevad you don't get what i'm saying so fall back
@@DJLITRAVE joe a weirdo 🤷🏽♂️
@@ewokevad naw Joe Budden can not like you but he will tell the true....i think Troy Ave has the right testify because it happen to him.
@@DJLITRAVE that fine but rats need to be doing 75% of they time
RIP Banga but if you let another grown man tell you to attack someone and you do it whatever happens after is on you. It’s kind of crazy Casanova supposedly talk Tax into going to the club when he didn’t want to. Did Casanova know that Troy was going to be there and know that Tax had the thing on him? Where was Cass when Banga supposedly approached Tax? Did Cass set this thing up? I’m just asking questions that nobody I’ve seen ask.
Fuck tax
Joe is a spin doctor 😂😂😂😂
That breaking bread hat is fire shout out to my hood!
How many lessons is it going to take to finally understand the streets don’t love you!
What's wrong with doing 15 years for someone that was responsible for your friends death??
The expectations from complete strangers to do extra time for any reason is ridiculous… people make mistakes and time is the most valuable thing we have In life.
There's a big difference between SNITCHING AND TELLING, Troy ave is telling Not Snitching.
Joe is a customer Troy is a hussler, thts why Buden mad about his “pill poppin weidors bein glorified” 😂😂
To say free taxstone but rip banger is wildddddd
(If these are the facts)
A man's friend was murdered and the guy who did it is blaming the friend so there's a chance that you could go to do some heavy time behind the murder of your own friend and you're not supposed to say anything 🙄🙄🙄
Once Joe started telling his real feelings of Troy Ave being a Douf, I felt him. Always felt the same way about him. It kept me away from his music.
Makes no sense
But should he do the time because you don't listen to his music?
@@matthewsnic1 these arguments just show how slow these dudes are.
@@matthewsnic1 I didn't say that. I literally am only speaking about the part Joe said. His testifying part is what he feels is the best and right thing to do.
@@JM-qn3tf how so?
REMEMBER WHEN TROY WAS CALLIN NIGGAS WEIRD FOR BEING DEPRESSED THEN HIS BESTFRIEND GETS SMOKED N THEN HE DEPRESSED LMFAO & THEN NOW HE TOLD AFTER SAYING "THE STREETS ARE A MYTH" NOOOOW THE STREETS ARE MYTH HA
ratting is telling on my FRIEND for a lesser sentence
Of course joe is mad Troy Ave was smashing his babymother 😂😂😂 he can’t give an honest opinion
Cyn 😮
Why would he be mad, he had Cyn before Troy. Troy was getting Joe's sloppy 2nds, 3rds, and fourths
@@juombe you actually wrong Troy Ave had her first 🤡😂😂
DOES FLIP WORK 4 JOE???
Somebody was gonna take the fall for Banga death
Joe Budden & Charlemagne takin Tax side don’t surprise me
the tag after Joe's last point was a banger lmao I respect his advocacy for black men's civility and innocence until proven guilty
Everybody on this show would testify Melissa ford might keep it solid tho
Wait, Tax shot Ave...and he's NOT supposed to tell? I'm confused.
What don't you understand about Nigga-alogy??
@4:00 lemme get this str8 he would prefer nobody goes to court and they "settle it", how? in the streets? which would probably mean more deaths to people who aint involved in none of that bullshit. i wonder if people hear themselves talk?
BLack people need to get over this Mafia roleplay they are doing which started back in the day. Dudes dead and Tax 100 per cent started this whole situation for no reason at all, fuck him.
Lmaooooooooo yo I can't with this podcast man
tax told on troy troy only hopped on the Stand cuz tax wrote a letter to the judge snitching on troy before he got arrested
So does that make it ok 😂
Nah Tax is a doof for putting himself in that situation. He is the sole reason for all of this smh
Snitching is a part of street culture! We need to stop denying that.
He preached the “ street “ message in music…. doesn’t mean he’s street. Actors that play gangsters are still civilians
Right.. he's a actor..while he was on video with the hammer that was meant for him, shooting the club up while tough talking Tax was running for his life.... He ain't about that life though? Lol
Soon as dude mentioned 50 co-signed him he went off on Troy Ave 😂 think Joe has some hurt feelings still
Taxstone didn’t like Joe so it was crazy to sit there and watch Joe defend him . Troy dissed Joe and made a song about him that was pretty funny 😂😂😂 if you haven’t heard it you should go check it out .
Its not personal... Joe is just being a real nigga