Toy Story was one of the first movies I saw in the theaters, and was headed to college the summer Toy Story 3 came out, so that ending of Toy Story 3 really hit me hard and pulled on my heartstrings
my brother & i r twins & we started our sophomore year of high school. so did our cousin & we saw it with her, her little brother & her friend. i still cant believe pixar ruined it & our childhoods with a fourth movie & now theyre even making a fifth damn one thats just gonna ruin it a hell of a lot more. 3 was the perfect finale
Same with me regarding Toy Story 3. It came out nearly a month after I graduated HS. I lost out on seeing it in theaters, but I got to see it during a movie event at my college a few weeks after I started college. Toy Story 4 was good, but the saga really should've ended with Toy Story 3.
I think the most interesting aspect of this unmade film, is that it would’ve been the 2nd time a human in the Toy Story universe would discover the toys being alive and sentient (the first being Sid from the first film). Still the actual Toy Story 3 that eventually got released, was good enough for me and kinda book ended the entire arc for Woody, Buzz, and the gang. That’s why I never even thought about checking out the 4th installment.
@@SickIncKamikazeYeah I re edited that claim. And yes I did remember that part in the first movie where Woody and the rest of Sid’s toys got their revenge by traumatizing Sid, for what should be the rest of his adolescent life.
Also that character would have been implicitly their creator, meaning that he made living toys intentionally for some reason. It would convolute the lore no end! Although I’m not gonna lie, Toy Story doing a Star Trek V would have been kinda amazing
The Circle 7 version sounds like it could've been fun and alright, but at the same time, I'm glad we got the version we got instead, as it was a perfect finale to the trilogy....well, until the fourth film came out that is. That being said, I do have somewhat of a headcanon that this unmade film still happened, but in between the second film and the actual third film we got.
Honestly, the one we got was _the one_ best for a movie, while Circle 7's version could've been a half-hour long short movie that took place between 2 and 3.
Eisner sure is something, he deserves a lot of credit for the mega-run of the early '90s and I don't think he actually deserves much blame for the later problems but he does deserve a lot of blame for not recognizing, valuing both of the first two Toy Story movies and Finding Nemo.
Toy Story 2 and 4 are left. I don’t dislike 4, but the original version was better than what we got, with the story being about finding Bo Peep, and other differences like Woody not being ignored by Bonnie, no Forky, Buzz not questioning his existence, and Bo returning with Woody to Bonnie’s house
That's one of the problems of using a completely different creative team to make a sequel. In that they often don't understand the IP/Original Story in the first place.
He knows he can’t fly. He just wanted to show off how stylish he can be while falling. The clip inserted at that part in the video is a little misleading.
@@radien239That's exactly why Thaiboy said it would've worked as a side story, we could've had the 3 we eventually got as 4 but in the end people wouldn't miss much skipping this version of Toy Story 3
I wonder if they will include a human knowing that toys are alive and directly speaking to them in a future movie. That’s the one really wild idea in this script, but it also feels like it changes the tone of the series in ways that can’t be undone.
While I admit Circle 7’s Toy Story 3 story idea would’ve been interesting to see if they went through with it, kudos to Disney shareholders knowing what they had with Pixar and kicked out Eisner and replaced him with Iger. It’s truly fascinating to think how the decisions of Eisner and Jobs lead the way to the Bob Iger era and Disney purchasing Pixar.
I really hope several of these concepts from this story are added into 5. It's quite fitting considering it's focusing on the digital age and how toys are becoming more and more obsolete.
I think the underlying issue with the period after the Disney renaissance was they were trying to make films like Dreamworks (for the preteen and teen demographic) while under the Disney name. Kids who grew up during the Disney renaissance were aging out of Disney demographic and didn't want to be associated with the mostly G rated namesake (while parents didn't see the new films as kid friendly). Pixar provided that "new brand" for the teens who didn't want to be associated with kids movies while also provided content that kids could also enjoy.
There are some good ideas in the unmade Toy Story 3. I do get the vibe that this could have been a decent tv series if Disney ever went that route with Circle 7.
It's also interesting that this Toy Story 3 finale (namely the part where Buzz gets caught in the smasher, gets new parts replaced by his friends, and not remember them as he is "rebooted"... Only to go back to his old self due to an emtional trigger) is *very* similar to Wall-E's...
I liked how the original plot gave Buzz a meaningful storyline as, despite how good the 3 we got was, it really struggled to give Buzz something to do.
6:22 Wow. If we got THIS film as Toy Story 4 instead of what we got in 2019, that would’ve been AMAZING. Imagine what Buzz leading the army of Buzzes while saying “To infinity…AND BEYOND!!!” would’ve looked like😌
"Disney threatened to make sequels" - in hindsight, it was a very scary threat, like which companies would want to be associated with half of the movies Disney released lately, and pretty much any of the sequels
As much as I loved the Toy Story 3 we got, I would have loved to see this one too. It's a shame it got canned. :( I still remember when the Circle 7 version was first announced being in development. Time really flies.
I don't think the Circle Seven version of Toy Story 3 would have been successful considering as described in the video Andy's toys would have acted out of character. It seems jarring to hear Woody and the other toys would have jumped Buzz and shipped him to the factory against his will. Also having the conflict resolved in a big battle also strayed away from the other two movies, which although featuring adventurous situations they did their best in avoiding violence as a resolution to the conflicts.
Another great video! Well done! The pitch for the alternate Toy Story 3 isn’t that bad surprisingly but we got the far superior version for sure 😉 Bob Iger really did save the day!
As much of an emotional rollercoaster the actual Toy Story 3 was, I would have like to have seen Circle 7’s version. Maybe they’ll do that in Toy Story 5?
@@Bulletsandblockbusters that’s awesome! I don’t know about any of your other viewers, but I would enjoy it if you made a video giving an overview of some of them 👍
Another brilliant video! Thanks for this, it is always fascinating learning and understanding what happens behind our favourite media. They can be appreciated more !
I remember hearing about this cancelled version of the movie way back in the late 2000s and thinking that it just didn't feel right. I'm glad that we ultimately got the version that released.
Finally! I’ve been waiting for this video for a long time. I think the original Toy Story 3 would have been far better than the one we got. I prefer that story so much more.
I have to admit this is one interesting Toy Story 3 sequel by Disney Circle 7 Animation, it was cool to know that Tom Hanks refused to join in this sequel as long as Pixar Animation Studio was involved with this because back then Michael Eisner should know better that Toy Story does belong to PIXAR not just Disney.
Circle 7's version of Toy Story 3 is perfect as a side quest since it was meant to be released for home release instead of in theaters. This was the direction that Disney was going for now as they planned on releasing movies mainly for home video, without Pixar we wouldn't be seeing this movies in theaters. Maybe a few but mainly we'll be watching this on DVD.
Disneys style of movies are more geared towards money and merchandise than actually making a movie. Sometimes, it's the opposite, just to make the movie fail (like strange world for example) Pixars style is about making stories for both the kids and adults watching their films by mostly keeping it geared towards a more general audience.
Like the thematic observation you did of the franchise at the end. What makes each Toy Story sequel so special compared to other animated franchises is how each one explores children’s relationships with toys and pushes the characters forward. The Circle 7 animation Toy Story 3 sounds like a fun adventure, but it doesn’t really do anything to evolve the characters or explore anything significant about our relationship with toys. Here’s hoping Toy Story 5 continues the trend and isn’t just some silly side adventure.
Great video as always Bullets! I like this script but one of the biggest issues I have is that they send the main villain to Sid's house. Not only is it needlessly cruel and completely out of character for Woody and friends, to send a toy somewhere where he will be tortured (if that wasn't the case, why send him to Sid's house?) but it also ignores the ending of the first movie and implies Sid didn't learn his lesson and is still torturing toys.
Good video. I love the Toy Story franchise and this script sounds interesting even though I prefer the movie we got. What really saddens me though is the bad treatment that the Buzz Lightyear cartoon gets from Pixar who refuse to acknowledge it because I love that series. Your videos are always interesting to watch. It’s cool to learn about unfinished unique projects like this.
I was flabbergasted at the idea of two toy armies facing against each other. Until they all hit the floor when a janitor comes in, responded with *"I don't paid enough for this s***!,"* leaves and then the armies resume their miniature larping! I want see someone to at least try to animate this scene!
This and the Buzz Lightyear cartoon is why Disney and Pixar have had a rough relationship off an on over the years with Disney, although same can be said with pretty much everyone that has worked for Disney....That's why the buzz lightyear of star command show is still not on Disney plus
I can imagine that plot is gonna be used in toy story 5. And I'm not thrilled. Never been thrilled with toy story 4. Can't they just stop at toy story 3 and just continue making shorts? Or at least a TV show in Bonnie's place?
The only part I think would've been cool would've been Dax Blaster as a villain, because he seems like the reverse of what Stinky Pete was in Toy Story 2. Whereas Pete was bitter that he and Wild West themed toys got replaced by science fiction "space toys" like Buzz Lightyear, Dax would've been the new toy that everyone wanted, and he'd be eager to push Buzz out of the spotlight. That, and the factory creator knowing that the toys were alive would've been a cool touch.
With Toy Story 4 that was not the higher ups at Disney who demanded a sequel, that was more of John Lassester and co idea, It was an in-house idea, John even said that they never told the executives at Disney that they were thinking of doing another Toy Story 4 until they had figured out what the film was gonna be.
Maybe since the last time buzz and woody were there sid didn't change & in this universe sid is still torturing toys or something. In Pixar yes it makes sense they taught him lesson don't beat up or break your toys, this isn't Toy Story 3's Pixar. This is circle 7's Toy Story 3. This is their universe outside of Pixar's & things may have altered if Toy Story may have written differently if Pixar didn't make it & circle 7 did in an altered universe format. So Sid is possibly still a bad guy in circle 7's format while Pixar's format Sid is scared helpless without hind clue his toys are alive. Pixar knows circle 7's Toy Story 3 doesn't make any sense. And that's why it never happened. Now that toy story 5 is in production they're taking old notes from toy story 3 by circle 7's playbook & reusing them for The next movie. Guess can't let those armies of buzz lightyears go to waste can you Pixar? No no. Not today. Edit.
Also it sounds very similar to what happened in Madagascar 3's ending where the French detective FBI animal captives get sent to Madagascar packed in shipping crates. Yes sounds very familiar.
Maybe Sid would destroy his toys because he knows they are alive and is afraid of them? Maybe he didn't learn Woody's lesson right? Maybe he wants to kill the toys before they kill him? Maybe his phobia of toys didn't help him at all but made him as bad as those X-Men characters who feared mutants so much that they want to kill them all?
This totally could have worked for TS4. Bonnie could have gone on a week field trip and this reminds Andy's toys of his week away and this adventure, and Woody and Buzz tell the story to bonnie's toys. I would have preferred this over real TS4.
Someone gets it. Ironically, and sadly, that’s exactly what ended up happening to him on Toy Story 4, and unfortunately he wasn’t able to stop big bad Disney that time.
Treasure Planet is an amazing movie that Disney didn't put any hype behind and they did not promote it whatsoever when it came out that movie is a flipping cult classic now
While not from Toy Story 3, Sox from Lightyear is also very similar to Daxx Blastar's Comet, who's also a cat. I think Pixar has seen Circle 7's ideas but they refuse to confess that they took inspiration due to their beef.
I honestly would've liked to have seen this as the third movie and the 4th film be the plot of the actual Toy Story 3 as the bookend for the toys' lives with Andy.
Ok, this was interesting. I'm interested by the plot of this movie and knowing what Toy Story 3 could've been. But I see why it was scrapped; a movie without the collaboration of both Disney AND Pixar just wouldn't be right. And to be honest, the Toy Story 3 we got had a better message anyway. Still though, I noticed some elements from the film that (while I know weren't intentional) still made it into the final film, and may potentially be brought in future films i.e. The army of Buzz clones.
Who would’ve thought that we could’ve had a solid story? But, would the quality of the animation be the same? If they had moved forward, could we tell the difference? It is truly annoying to hear how Disney wants to have absolute, or near total control over a product
Walt Disney originally planned to do an anthology film centered around the works of Hans Christian Anderson. It would have included early versions of The Little Mermaid and The Ice Queen (which would later become Frozen). It would also have been Disney's first live action/animation hybrid.
I am so glad we never got whatever this is supposed to be. The actual Toy Story 3 was a perfect ending to the series. This just feels like another adventure, and not an actual continuation of the second film.
1:01 Important to note is that the executive at Disney Animation intentionally caused Treasure Planet to flop at the box office to spite Jeff Katzenberg, who had been eager to make the movie for almost a decade He was promised the movie could be made once he completed involvement with any additional movies they wanted him to do until eventually allowing him to move ahead His treatment was so bad (especially after realizing they would allow the creation of Treasure Planet, but said nothing about marketing it fairly), he left Disney and created DreamWorks
Cant lie im glad Disney didn't just go over Pixar's head and create there own sequels, but i also cant lie that sounds like an awesome story for a toy story movie, sounds way better then what the story for toy story 4 was, maybe elements of this could be used for toy story 5, Sounds better then toys vs technology anyway
Nice video Bullets & Blockbusters. I have heard about Circle Seven Animation and how Disney tried to make direct-to-video sequels to Pixar films without their involvement. Thankfully, that never happened. But the story behind it is fascinating as you look at the concept arts and story ideas for their canceled projects. Personally, I would have loved to see these films get made. But I'm glad that Pixar was able to take back control of their films. Speaking about Pixar, can you do a What Could Have Been video about their canceled film "Newt"? It was about a male and a female blue-footed newt who were forced together by science to save their endangered species, but they both didn't like each other. It got canceled because its plot was too similar to Blue Sky Studios' animated film "Rio" (2011). Its production got replaced with Inside Out (2015).
Toy Story was one of the first movies I saw in the theaters, and was headed to college the summer Toy Story 3 came out, so that ending of Toy Story 3 really hit me hard and pulled on my heartstrings
Yeah, it came out the summer after me and all of my friends graduated from high school. What a great time.
my brother & i r twins & we started our sophomore year of high school. so did our cousin & we saw it with her, her little brother & her friend. i still cant believe pixar ruined it & our childhoods with a fourth movie & now theyre even making a fifth damn one thats just gonna ruin it a hell of a lot more. 3 was the perfect finale
4 was the most related one for my life story and of course little no one respects that
Same with me regarding Toy Story 3. It came out nearly a month after I graduated HS. I lost out on seeing it in theaters, but I got to see it during a movie event at my college a few weeks after I started college.
Toy Story 4 was good, but the saga really should've ended with Toy Story 3.
@@finchborat no offense but the fourth one sucked
I think the most interesting aspect of this unmade film, is that it would’ve been the 2nd time a human in the Toy Story universe would discover the toys being alive and sentient (the first being Sid from the first film).
Still the actual Toy Story 3 that eventually got released, was good enough for me and kinda book ended the entire arc for Woody, Buzz, and the gang. That’s why I never even thought about checking out the 4th installment.
Did you forget about the toys coming alive and taunting Sid at the end of the first one?
@@SickIncKamikazeyou have cancer Sid💀
@@SickIncKamikazeYeah I re edited that claim. And yes I did remember that part in the first movie where Woody and the rest of Sid’s toys got their revenge by traumatizing Sid, for what should be the rest of his adolescent life.
Don't watch the 4th film. It's terrible.
Also that character would have been implicitly their creator, meaning that he made living toys intentionally for some reason. It would convolute the lore no end! Although I’m not gonna lie, Toy Story doing a Star Trek V would have been kinda amazing
Honestly think the Circle 7 movies should've gotten their own video
I agree.
I’m saving videos for each of them :)
@@Bulletsandblockbusters Yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes
@@Bulletsandblockbustersdid you hear about Toy Story 3' multiple other drafts such as the Whodunit script?
@@dj1299yup
For a movie made out of spite the plot’s surprisingly good.
Feels way too rehashy to me.
Tbf, usually there's still someone in the team who is actually there to make a movie with or without sharing the main motivation the rest has.
@@suarezguy Rehashy of what?
@@LightsJusticeZ Of the first two films.
@@suarezguy oh i was thinking of potatoes
The Circle 7 version sounds like it could've been fun and alright, but at the same time, I'm glad we got the version we got instead, as it was a perfect finale to the trilogy....well, until the fourth film came out that is.
That being said, I do have somewhat of a headcanon that this unmade film still happened, but in between the second film and the actual third film we got.
That's what I was thinking
The original version has an interesting story, but the Toy Story 3 we got is perfect. I consider it the best in the series
Yep. Also, for me, they should have stopped at 3.
Wish I can agree but 3 is my least favorite of the movies although the ending is great
I agree
The original idea does sound a bit like a rehash of 2, and it’s not a completely bad idea. But the 3 that we got was a better story.
Original premise should’ve came between 2 and 3
2:34 good one, John Lasseter
The irony
honestly, this sounds like a cool idea , but im glad with the one we got.
I remember Robot Chicken making an episode somewhat based on this original concept.
It does sound pretty solid. Definitely better than 4.
Honestly, the one we got was _the one_ best for a movie, while Circle 7's version could've been a half-hour long short movie that took place between 2 and 3.
I'm assuming this will be the plot in toy story 5, and I'm not thrilled
Eisner sure is something, he deserves a lot of credit for the mega-run of the early '90s and I don't think he actually deserves much blame for the later problems but he does deserve a lot of blame for not recognizing, valuing both of the first two Toy Story movies and Finding Nemo.
You could place EuroDisney as another massive Eisner failure.
Toy Story 2 and 4 are left. I don’t dislike 4, but the original version was better than what we got, with the story being about finding Bo Peep, and other differences like Woody not being ignored by Bonnie, no Forky, Buzz not questioning his existence, and Bo returning with Woody to Bonnie’s house
Although I think Forky is a great concept and a natural evolution of... Toy Story "lore" for lack of a better word.
Seems like every Toy Story is about growing up. 4 is sadly about being an adult and having to give up your friends to start a family.
Next year we are getting Toy Story 5
@@BurritoKingdom The Toy Story movies are existential horror in a family-friendly package.
That sounds way better than the actual TS4, which should never have been made.
The premise doesn't make sense. Buzz was never able to fly. That realization was like his entire character arc in the first movie.
I'm glad we got Pixars version of TS3
The point was that Buzz wasn't able to function normally, including the stunt he wanted to re-enact
That's one of the problems of using a completely different creative team to make a sequel. In that they often don't understand the IP/Original Story in the first place.
He knows he can’t fly. He just wanted to show off how stylish he can be while falling. The clip inserted at that part in the video is a little misleading.
Having a child's plaything going through an existential crisis about its own existence
I'm beyond happy that we never got this version. It wouldn't have felt like the other two at the time.
You’re saying ethnic ideas should be segregated from an American story
I…actually like circle 7’s ideas? I think it would’ve worked as a side story but I’m glad we got Toy Story 3 that we got.
This version would've been a good 3 and the actual 3 could d been 4 to Al if all off
@@radien239That's exactly why Thaiboy said it would've worked as a side story, we could've had the 3 we eventually got as 4 but in the end people wouldn't miss much skipping this version of Toy Story 3
@@BuryTheLight-tds I would've preferred this over the Toy Story 4 we got
I wonder if they will include a human knowing that toys are alive and directly speaking to them in a future movie. That’s the one really wild idea in this script, but it also feels like it changes the tone of the series in ways that can’t be undone.
Consider the alternative: no future movie. Enough is enough (and by enough I mean 3, not 4)
While I admit Circle 7’s Toy Story 3 story idea would’ve been interesting to see if they went through with it, kudos to Disney shareholders knowing what they had with Pixar and kicked out Eisner and replaced him with Iger. It’s truly fascinating to think how the decisions of Eisner and Jobs lead the way to the Bob Iger era and Disney purchasing Pixar.
If only Disney dropped Pixar's lawsuit against Nintendo so we could get Uniracers again.
No way, I get is worse
Now we need a video about the original direct to DVD toy story 2 and original toy story 4 story that is better than the One we got
Warner Bros. Were Very Close to Signing a Distribution Deal with Pixar when their Original Deal with Disney was set to expire
Imagine that timeline
@@UndeadNerdT800 Had they Signed a Deal with Warner, they would've made films for a Mature Audience
@@UndeadNerdT800 They Were THAT Close
@@alexmacleod3728 more I think about it that makes a lot of sense
@@UndeadNerdT800 they would of made a Batman movie
I really hope several of these concepts from this story are added into 5.
It's quite fitting considering it's focusing on the digital age and how toys are becoming more and more obsolete.
I think the underlying issue with the period after the Disney renaissance was they were trying to make films like Dreamworks (for the preteen and teen demographic) while under the Disney name. Kids who grew up during the Disney renaissance were aging out of Disney demographic and didn't want to be associated with the mostly G rated namesake (while parents didn't see the new films as kid friendly). Pixar provided that "new brand" for the teens who didn't want to be associated with kids movies while also provided content that kids could also enjoy.
Well said
Thank you for doing this video. I really enjoyed it.
Same
Before Ned Beatty Was Cast As Lotso, Pierce Brosnan, Bruce Willis, Stephen Lang And Ron Perlman Were Considered For The Role
Pierce Brosnan? As in the same Pierce Brosnan that played James Bond? Damn
@@TheMemeguy127then we could’ve had two James bond’s in Toy Story since Timothy dalton voices mr pricklepants.
I don’t what to think of Bruce Willis playing Lotso🤨🤔
@@iguana9173 Oh yeah I forgot about that
I remember hearing this rumor. Pixar fans were not happy.
There are some good ideas in the unmade Toy Story 3.
I do get the vibe that this could have been a decent tv series if Disney ever went that route with Circle 7.
Yeah good ideas but not a good ending
It's also interesting that this Toy Story 3 finale (namely the part where Buzz gets caught in the smasher, gets new parts replaced by his friends, and not remember them as he is "rebooted"... Only to go back to his old self due to an emtional trigger) is *very* similar to Wall-E's...
The Malfunctioning Buzz Lightyears idea came back for 50 Malfunctioning lightyears for Toy Story 5.
I liked how the original plot gave Buzz a meaningful storyline as, despite how good the 3 we got was, it really struggled to give Buzz something to do.
"He Had To Give Them Up to be Adopted by Convicted Child Molesters" How Ironic
Right?! Lol. Bob Iger is all about the shGrooming. 🤣
Cough cough Tom Hanks cough cough
@@louis3141 I was talking about John Lasseter
Aged like milk!
@@CharcoalRabbit The FINEST milk. 🤣
great stuff. Ive heard this plot before but I never saw the concept art. 10/10 detective work as always, guys!
Thanks!
6:22 Wow. If we got THIS film as Toy Story 4 instead of what we got in 2019, that would’ve been AMAZING. Imagine what Buzz leading the army of Buzzes while saying “To infinity…AND BEYOND!!!” would’ve looked like😌
After hearing the original plot, I think it would have been better than what we got. It just feels more adventurous.
Apparently Disney took some inspiration for the fifth one. There will apparently be an army of malfunctioned buzzes who will be the bad guys
FIFTH ONE?! Oh god, oh man, oh no. Fourth one was already a terrible mistake. Now they're doubling down that hard?!
@@thecandlemaker1329 Yep. Disney has its rotten tentacle up Pixar’s you-know-what
"Disney threatened to make sequels" - in hindsight, it was a very scary threat, like which companies would want to be associated with half of the movies Disney released lately, and pretty much any of the sequels
As much as I loved the Toy Story 3 we got, I would have loved to see this one too.
It's a shame it got canned. :( I still remember when the Circle 7 version was first announced being in development. Time really flies.
4:40 sounded like a shot at steve jobs lol
A case where "What Went Wrong" became "What Became Right"
yup 100%
I don't think the Circle Seven version of Toy Story 3 would have been successful considering as described in the video Andy's toys would have acted out of character. It seems jarring to hear Woody and the other toys would have jumped Buzz and shipped him to the factory against his will. Also having the conflict resolved in a big battle also strayed away from the other two movies, which although featuring adventurous situations they did their best in avoiding violence as a resolution to the conflicts.
Another great video! Well done! The pitch for the alternate Toy Story 3 isn’t that bad surprisingly but we got the far superior version for sure 😉
Bob Iger really did save the day!
As much of an emotional rollercoaster the actual Toy Story 3 was, I would have like to have seen Circle 7’s version. Maybe they’ll do that in Toy Story 5?
How long before “what could have been Bullets & Blockbusters films”
I have a pile of unproduced scripts haha
@@Bulletsandblockbusters that’s awesome! I don’t know about any of your other viewers, but I would enjoy it if you made a video giving an overview of some of them 👍
Maybe one day :)
And now the evil Buzz army is gonna be in Toy Story 5 lol
Really good video man! I love ur style
Thanks!
Wow! The scrapped version of the movie sounds absolutely abysmal!
The plot with the factory owner feels like a Disney-Pixar metaphor somehow.
Another brilliant video! Thanks for this, it is always fascinating learning and understanding what happens behind our favourite media. They can be appreciated more !
I remember hearing about this cancelled version of the movie way back in the late 2000s and thinking that it just didn't feel right.
I'm glad that we ultimately got the version that released.
Was there ever a followup planned for sky high? Felt that movie was a good start for a bigger universe and a hidden pre-mcu superhero movie gem
im surprised no one has tried to make this into a fan made film to show how the story couldve gone
I think Pixar would do amazing without Disney
Finally! I’ve been waiting for this video for a long time. I think the original Toy Story 3 would have been far better than the one we got. I prefer that story so much more.
I remember sitting in the theatre for toy story 3, wondering when they were gonna go to Taiwan.. coz I had heard of this alternate plot beforehand
2:04 So Disney was willing to destroy these movies legacies by making shameless sequels in an effort to get money. Where have I seen that before?
where do we start?
*Proceeds to make hundreds of sequel no one wanted and a list that stretches miles and miles*
My Saturday ritual is now lunch while watching bullet & blockbuster
I have to admit this is one interesting Toy Story 3 sequel by Disney Circle 7 Animation, it was cool to know that Tom Hanks refused to join in this sequel as long as Pixar Animation Studio was involved with this because back then Michael Eisner should know better that Toy Story does belong to PIXAR not just Disney.
Circle 7's version of Toy Story 3 is perfect as a side quest since it was meant to be released for home release instead of in theaters. This was the direction that Disney was going for now as they planned on releasing movies mainly for home video, without Pixar we wouldn't be seeing this movies in theaters. Maybe a few but mainly we'll be watching this on DVD.
Disneys style of movies are more geared towards money and merchandise than actually making a movie. Sometimes, it's the opposite, just to make the movie fail (like strange world for example)
Pixars style is about making stories for both the kids and adults watching their films by mostly keeping it geared towards a more general audience.
Like the thematic observation you did of the franchise at the end. What makes each Toy Story sequel so special compared to other animated franchises is how each one explores children’s relationships with toys and pushes the characters forward. The Circle 7 animation Toy Story 3 sounds like a fun adventure, but it doesn’t really do anything to evolve the characters or explore anything significant about our relationship with toys. Here’s hoping Toy Story 5 continues the trend and isn’t just some silly side adventure.
Great video as always Bullets! I like this script but one of the biggest issues I have is that they send the main villain to Sid's house. Not only is it needlessly cruel and completely out of character for Woody and friends, to send a toy somewhere where he will be tortured (if that wasn't the case, why send him to Sid's house?) but it also ignores the ending of the first movie and implies Sid didn't learn his lesson and is still torturing toys.
Good video. I love the Toy Story franchise and this script sounds interesting even though I prefer the movie we got. What really saddens me though is the bad treatment that the Buzz Lightyear cartoon gets from Pixar who refuse to acknowledge it because I love that series. Your videos are always interesting to watch. It’s cool to learn about unfinished unique projects like this.
I was flabbergasted at the idea of two toy armies facing against each other. Until they all hit the floor when a janitor comes in, responded with *"I don't paid enough for this s***!,"* leaves and then the armies resume their miniature larping! I want see someone to at least try to animate this scene!
Would the janitor say shit in a G-rated Disney movie?
This and the Buzz Lightyear cartoon is why Disney and Pixar have had a rough relationship off an on over the years with Disney, although same can be said with pretty much everyone that has worked for Disney....That's why the buzz lightyear of star command show is still not on Disney plus
I can imagine that plot is gonna be used in toy story 5. And I'm not thrilled. Never been thrilled with toy story 4. Can't they just stop at toy story 3 and just continue making shorts? Or at least a TV show in Bonnie's place?
The only part I think would've been cool would've been Dax Blaster as a villain, because he seems like the reverse of what Stinky Pete was in Toy Story 2. Whereas Pete was bitter that he and Wild West themed toys got replaced by science fiction "space toys" like Buzz Lightyear, Dax would've been the new toy that everyone wanted, and he'd be eager to push Buzz out of the spotlight.
That, and the factory creator knowing that the toys were alive would've been a cool touch.
That’s not as horrible as a thought. It sounds like a fun direct to video sequel…
This was a good ending for the franchise but the execs at Disney had to get greedy and make a Toy Story 4 and now 5…. 🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️
With Toy Story 4 that was not the higher ups at Disney who demanded a sequel, that was more of John Lassester and co idea, It was an in-house idea, John even said that they never told the executives at Disney that they were thinking of doing another Toy Story 4 until they had figured out what the film was gonna be.
I like the final battle part where they all freeze honestly that’s a pretty funny joke
dax blaster being sent to sid's house wouldn't be a problem now due to learning that torturing toys is bad
Maybe since the last time buzz and woody were there sid didn't change & in this universe sid is still torturing toys or something.
In Pixar yes it makes sense they taught him lesson don't beat up or break your toys, this isn't Toy Story 3's Pixar.
This is circle 7's Toy Story 3. This is their universe outside of Pixar's & things may have altered if Toy Story may have written differently if Pixar didn't make it & circle 7 did in an altered universe format. So Sid is possibly still a bad guy in circle 7's format while Pixar's format Sid is scared helpless without hind clue his toys are alive.
Pixar knows circle 7's Toy Story 3 doesn't make any sense. And that's why it never happened. Now that toy story 5 is in production they're taking old notes from toy story 3 by circle 7's playbook & reusing them for The next movie. Guess can't let those armies of buzz lightyears go to waste can you Pixar? No no. Not today. Edit.
Also it sounds very similar to what happened in Madagascar 3's ending where the French detective FBI animal captives get sent to Madagascar packed in shipping crates. Yes sounds very familiar.
@@Knightrogue24. if sid tortures toys from now on is he still going to be a garbage man when he grows up in the circle 7 universe?
Maybe Sid would destroy his toys because he knows they are alive and is afraid of them? Maybe he didn't learn Woody's lesson right? Maybe he wants to kill the toys before they kill him? Maybe his phobia of toys didn't help him at all but made him as bad as those X-Men characters who feared mutants so much that they want to kill them all?
This totally could have worked for TS4. Bonnie could have gone on a week field trip and this reminds Andy's toys of his week away and this adventure, and Woody and Buzz tell the story to bonnie's toys. I would have preferred this over real TS4.
Oh my GOD! I would have LOVED to watch this!
2:31-2:38 Lasseter was BASEDDDDD.
Someone gets it. Ironically, and sadly, that’s exactly what ended up happening to him on Toy Story 4, and unfortunately he wasn’t able to stop big bad Disney that time.
Treasure Planet is an amazing movie that Disney didn't put any hype behind and they did not promote it whatsoever when it came out that movie is a flipping cult classic now
I agree. Treasure Planet deserved better.
Treasure planet and Atlantis was my favorite Disney films as a kid haha
While not from Toy Story 3, Sox from Lightyear is also very similar to Daxx Blastar's Comet, who's also a cat. I think Pixar has seen Circle 7's ideas but they refuse to confess that they took inspiration due to their beef.
I honestly would've liked to have seen this as the third movie and the 4th film be the plot of the actual Toy Story 3 as the bookend for the toys' lives with Andy.
I love how spot on Eisner was, it's like he knows that he is in a business
I can see Dax being voiced by Patrick Warburton or Chris Parnell
Have The Rock voice him.
Watch this be the script for Toy Story 5
That’s what I was thinking to be honest
What we know about the film so far isn't what you expect.
Ok, this was interesting. I'm interested by the plot of this movie and knowing what Toy Story 3 could've been. But I see why it was scrapped; a movie without the collaboration of both Disney AND Pixar just wouldn't be right. And to be honest, the Toy Story 3 we got had a better message anyway. Still though, I noticed some elements from the film that (while I know weren't intentional) still made it into the final film, and may potentially be brought in future films i.e. The army of Buzz clones.
Who would’ve thought that we could’ve had a solid story? But, would the quality of the animation be the same? If they had moved forward, could we tell the difference?
It is truly annoying to hear how Disney wants to have absolute, or near total control over a product
I’ve seen some test renderings. I think the animation wouldn’t have been as good
Walt Disney originally planned to do an anthology film centered around the works of Hans Christian Anderson. It would have included early versions of The Little Mermaid and The Ice Queen (which would later become Frozen). It would also have been Disney's first live action/animation hybrid.
This sounds like it would’ve been an awesome movie, but I am grateful with the version that we got because it was a natural conclusion
Looks like this will be the story for Toy Story 5
Thanks for letting me know that every video comes out on Saturdays
You bet
I am so glad we never got whatever this is supposed to be. The actual Toy Story 3 was a perfect ending to the series. This just feels like another adventure, and not an actual continuation of the second film.
I would love to see you do a video on how the Shrek franchise would’ve been like if Chris Farley lived.
Already did :)
This should've been toy story 5.
if they released this, toy sales would never recover.
1:01 Important to note is that the executive at Disney Animation intentionally caused Treasure Planet to flop at the box office to spite Jeff Katzenberg, who had been eager to make the movie for almost a decade
He was promised the movie could be made once he completed involvement with any additional movies they wanted him to do until eventually allowing him to move ahead
His treatment was so bad (especially after realizing they would allow the creation of Treasure Planet, but said nothing about marketing it fairly), he left Disney and created DreamWorks
Thanks for the amazing video ❤
2:34, OKAY 💀
Great essay, I'm binging your channel
Welcome aboard!
That plot sounds better than the one we got
Cant lie im glad Disney didn't just go over Pixar's head and create there own sequels, but i also cant lie that sounds like an awesome story for a toy story movie, sounds way better then what the story for toy story 4 was, maybe elements of this could be used for toy story 5, Sounds better then toys vs technology anyway
Nice video Bullets & Blockbusters. I have heard about Circle Seven Animation and how Disney tried to make direct-to-video sequels to Pixar films without their involvement. Thankfully, that never happened. But the story behind it is fascinating as you look at the concept arts and story ideas for their canceled projects. Personally, I would have loved to see these films get made. But I'm glad that Pixar was able to take back control of their films.
Speaking about Pixar, can you do a What Could Have Been video about their canceled film "Newt"? It was about a male and a female blue-footed newt who were forced together by science to save their endangered species, but they both didn't like each other. It got canceled because its plot was too similar to Blue Sky Studios' animated film "Rio" (2011). Its production got replaced with Inside Out (2015).
Thnx! I can look into it
This sounds like a Toy Story 2.5 considering this was during a time where Andy was still a kid.
Gotta say, if the start from Circle 7s story was used with the better story elements from your actual version it woulda been a great movie
Do you have any plans to do the original plans for transformers dark of the moon and the franchise going forward after that?
What Could Have Been Inside Out.
2:34 So… we’re just gonna ignore this line?
I’ve always wanted to see this version of the movie for years when I first heard of it, even if it was just like an hour long special on ABC
Treasure Planet will always be my comfort movie 🪐
Interesting how some elements of this seem to have ended up in the real Toy Story 3.