Michel, the simple elegance of your solutions never ceases to amaze me. Whenever I watch machining videos, I like to think about how I would approach the job. In this case, I was thinking about how I would indicate the part to make sure the zero was truly ZERO. I had all kinds of trigonometry in my head, figuring how I could "math" my way to a solution. Then you show the indicator method, and I suddenly feel foolish hahah. So simple, and precise. As always, thank you for sharing your knowledge.
I was very impressed that you put the screws into the round slot before. Like you I pat myself on the back for the times I do remember. But not much worry about straining my arm..... I don't remember nearly often enough for that!
Hi Rusti. It's great when a machine can be used to adapt itself for improved versatility. Sometimes it good just to go and cut some metal purely for the sake of it. Nice work.
Might be worth checking the flatness of the base in a few days. Cutting the key channels in the cast iron base can change the stresses in the casting and you may find it needs a bit of work to get it flat again. I tried machining the base of a cheap vice to make it square, and it was initially, but then ended up a bit like a banana 🍌. That Deckel looks to be a very versatile machine.
Hi Michel, it is good, that you did not use bolts in the t-nuts, because if they are too long, it is very easy to break the t-slot on the table. You can see this quite often on second hand machines, round tables etc. I never use bolts in t-slots for that reason..😊
Hi Michel, The method of finding the top position is probably not the most accurate one. You adjust the x-axis to the highest point on your indicator. But when you turn the crank on the x-axis from that position, you see very little movement on the indicator for at least a couple of tenths of a millimeter. That means that the position on the x-axis cannot be determined any better than this couple of tenths. It would probably be better to crank to both sides until you lose for example 2mm on the indicator reading and calculate the middle position of the x -axis. Need to consider the backlash of course. Or you could also mount the new keys in the rough surface slot and indicate this. Just my thoughts… Let me know what you think about that…
maybe the idea "you build a trolley at the celling to move the heavy stuff around" is a good one for you but thats your choice offcourse. I made one rescued my back very often.
I got a Vice with a base like that that doesn’t fit just like yours. I just mount it kiddy wampus with one bolt hold down slot in the near t slot track on the mill and one bolt hold down slot on the far t slot track in the mill. That was the center of the base ends up exactly on the center of the table.
From one of your other videos I know that you have just one indexing disc for your dividing head. I have got a couple in spare and would like to donate you the missing ones. There is three different discs available from Deckel. They all have 35 ID, 125 OD and 6mm thickness, holes are 4mm. Nr. 1: 27 - 31 - 34 - 41 - 43 Nr. 2: 33 - 38 - 39 - 42 - 46 Nr. 3: 36 - 37 - 40 - 58 Which ones do you need? Kind regards, Stefan
Always a pleasure to see what you've been up to in the workshop. Thanks Michel 👍 🇬🇧
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Nice addition to your milling machine, Michel. You have a very versatile set up! Good to hear the birds in the background.
The birds are happy that spring is here :)
That is a "multi faceted head bolt" pattend applied for...Great job Michel, Cheers👍
Thanks Al.
Great job making what you have available suit your needs! Versatile tooling. A fun video as usual - thank you!
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That was a great idea adapting the dividing head on the side. This will add a lot of versatility to your machine. Great work.
Thanks for sharing.
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Michel, the simple elegance of your solutions never ceases to amaze me.
Whenever I watch machining videos, I like to think about how I would approach the job. In this case, I was thinking about how I would indicate the part to make sure the zero was truly ZERO. I had all kinds of trigonometry in my head, figuring how I could "math" my way to a solution.
Then you show the indicator method, and I suddenly feel foolish hahah. So simple, and precise.
As always, thank you for sharing your knowledge.
Simple and effective. Just how we like it.
You amaze me with your solutions.
Thanks.
Nice one Rusti. Makes mounting in that orientation / plane much simpler and adds extra rigidity. Cheers 🍻 Aaron
Thanks Aaron. It works fine.
I was very impressed that you put the screws into the round slot before. Like you I pat myself on the back for the times I do remember. But not much worry about straining my arm..... I don't remember nearly often enough for that!
The kind of things we always forget. If I remember well...
Nice job adapting what you have to make it more useful. Thanks Michael
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Some innovative problem-solving in that lot. Well done. 👍
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Hi Rusti. It's great when a machine can be used to adapt itself for improved versatility. Sometimes it good just to go and cut some metal purely for the sake of it. Nice work.
Absolutely. Thanks Mart.
Very satisfying Michel.
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Hi Michel. That is indeed an excellent modification which gives you so much added work holding versatility. Thank you for sharing. 👏👏👍😀
Thanks Andrew.
Another great video! Watching from Mexico on vacation. 😊
Have a great vacation.
Nice work Michel, it looks very adaptive and will give you a lot of choices for setting up in the shop. Cheers and thanks for the video!
Now I can make... everything :)
Very nice and capable machine and much more compact than my huge Lagun. Thanks for the video. I always look forward to your Friday videos.
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Good job Michel. Now you can do the impossible. ATB regards from the UK
Almost...
Ah, Deckel adaptability. 👍 Thanks Rusti
Very nice machine.
Brilliant solution as usual Michel. I'd love to have a Deckel milling machine. So versatile. Sadly no room or money for one. Cheers Nobby
One day you'll have one. For sure.
Smart work, it will be a very useful setup. Degrees and degrees 😁, I'm sick of the rain and chill this year .....
Thanks Paul. We had an overdose of rain too.
Very nice. Thanks for sharing!
Welcome.
Great job Michel! That will do enable you to do whatever set up you need to now.
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hahaha" i have no idea of what it is, but...i can make it" i allmost fell out of the chair here,laughing
Me too! He is hilarious!
Next time, make sure to fasten your seat belt :)
Good problem solving on getting the zero on zero. The indexing head will now provide a bunch more flexibility in your future projects.
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Great job mate👌👌
Thanks Matty.
Always an education . Cheers.
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Great adaptation of the new part ! Congrats and a nice weekend. 😊
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very good modification!
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Might be worth checking the flatness of the base in a few days. Cutting the key channels in the cast iron base can change the stresses in the casting and you may find it needs a bit of work to get it flat again. I tried machining the base of a cheap vice to make it square, and it was initially, but then ended up a bit like a banana 🍌. That Deckel looks to be a very versatile machine.
Good point. I will do that.
Thanks for sharing! Super duper.
Welcome.
Love that setup system. Wish i had a dividing head here in my workshoo. Maybe 1 day😂
One day, for sure.
I have no idea what it is, but i can make it. LOVE IT!!!!
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Thank You, Sir.
Welcome.
Hi Michel - now the world should be your oyster with that mod. A neat idea. Good onya
Lol. Thanks.
Hi Michel, it is good, that you did not use bolts in the t-nuts, because if they are too long, it is very easy to break the t-slot on the table. You can see this quite often on second hand machines, round tables etc. I never use bolts in t-slots for that reason..😊
Indeed. Have to be careful with bolts in slots.
Hi Michel,
The method of finding the top position is probably not the most accurate one. You adjust the x-axis to the highest point on your indicator. But when you turn the crank on the x-axis from that position, you see very little movement on the indicator for at least a couple of tenths of a millimeter. That means that the position on the x-axis cannot be determined any better than this couple of tenths. It would probably be better to crank to both sides until you lose for example 2mm on the indicator reading and calculate the middle position of the x -axis. Need to consider the backlash of course.
Or you could also mount the new keys in the rough surface slot and indicate this.
Just my thoughts…
Let me know what you think about that…
Ah, lots of potential lathe/shaper tool bits to be made from that broken 10mm drill.
Sure thing.
nice mod Michel
wil give some extra scope👍👍👍👍
atb
Kev (uk)
Thanks Kev.
very nice work
Thanks.
Great stuff, Rusti!
Thanks.
Just an algorithm boost for the channel 👍👍
Useful. Thanks.
Thank you sir🇦🇺
My pleasure.
maybe the idea "you build a trolley at the celling to move the heavy stuff around" is a good one for you but thats your choice offcourse. I made one rescued my back very often.
I would like too, but there is not enough head room.
@@Rustinox ok
I took a strong pipe tube 4mm wallthickness needed 15cm of headspace.
Correction, It's a custom bolt thingy, kinda sorta :)
Sounds good.
as always great solutions. Now you can make even more things that you don't know what they are😂😂😂
For sure.
thanks for the video
My pleasure.
Those "round-to-it" jobs are always haunting us, good to get another one ticked off the list !
Absolutely.
I got a Vice with a base like that that doesn’t fit just like yours. I just mount it kiddy wampus with one bolt hold down slot in the near t slot track on the mill and one bolt hold down slot on the far t slot track in the mill. That was the center of the base ends up exactly on the center of the table.
You can also make an adapting plate for that vise.
👍😎
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Hello Michael, was it 0° Celsius or Fahrenheit? Regards Ray.
Doesn't matter. Just too cold :)
As always a thrilling video. Great work.
What will You do with the new gear, except from the modified bolt head?
No idea. But it opens possibilities.
@@Rustinox You will figure something out!
Could you mount the base using one slot in the top tee and the other in the lower tee, or am I being stupid?
Good work and as always well explained.
You're not stupid at all. It's indeed possible.
@@Rustinox ok, but the extra slots are better for rigidity and locating. Worth the effort.👍
From one of your other videos I know that you have just one indexing disc for your dividing head. I have got a couple in spare and would like to donate you the missing ones. There is three different discs available from Deckel.
They all have 35 ID, 125 OD and 6mm thickness, holes are 4mm.
Nr. 1: 27 - 31 - 34 - 41 - 43
Nr. 2: 33 - 38 - 39 - 42 - 46
Nr. 3: 36 - 37 - 40 - 58
Which ones do you need?
Kind regards,
Stefan
That's very kind of you. I have only plate nr. 2
You can mail me; rustinox@outlook.com
No idea what it is? Michel it is the 4th letter of the Cat Alphabet... Purr-D.
You're right. That makes sense :)
Great repurposed component! Thanks for the look.
Thanks.
Disappointed you did not sniff your bolts.
These were not fresh :)