tool maker mill. Deckels are sought after. Make a tool post grinder and grind finish your shanks. Real big difference. Cover you ways carefully when using. Tooling is all over the place when you start looking for it.
I'm holed up indoors sheltering from Storm Eunice , Just started to get very bored with watching my carport fly away and you came along and saved me. Great tool and they can be expensive to buy , welll worth making your own. PS. I'm in Suffolk so if anyone in Zandvoort sees some corrugated roofing going past ,it's mine thanks.
nice one Michel, I made a smaller version with 3 inserts in at an angle to re cut my valve seats on my old BMW R80 motorcycle, it works a treat. Great to see Machines making parts for there own use. Its much more fun than buying off the shelf, and not so punishing on the hard earned cash keep up the good work cheers Kev
Well done Rusti, as usual you had me grinning! Tools to make tools to make tools, and endless cycle of enjoyment! Looks like it works very well. Apart from CNC, or using a rotary table, there are not really any other ways (apart from EDM) to put the insert shape in. Well done. Cheers, Jon
If you ever want a major in depth lesson on insert pocket design go see Robin Renzetti's video on making a small insert boring bar. It will give you an idea on just how much engineering has gone into insert technology. ruclips.net/video/zrHD01b0WW0/видео.html
@@Rustinox My Father said there is no such thing as scrap, it only becomes less useful as it get smaller! I have a lot of pre/loved Metal and NO SCRAP at my place! When I do work for People they will often say to me you can use your scrap for this part they need, I say a price for the scrap, they say but it is scrap! I then say well it is no good so you go and buy a bit of metal that is not scrap and I will make your part from that! Most of the time they agree that My Stock has Value. Sorry for long rant, I just needed to say that. John, Australia.
Well done! Didn't manage to follow the details and angles but holding an insert between the fingers it comes clear. I'm quite fond of the face milling head I've got, and a collection of different inserts for steel, aluminum, mystery metall etc...
You’ve definitely achieved the “Lets Roger That” level of tool making. A tool, that makes a tool to make another tool. Haha my goodness what a vicious circle we live in. Nicely done Michel. I’m working on a Volvo Penta inboard transmission shaft that likes destroying my HSS endmills. Here comes Rustinox to the rescue. Tomorrow I’m making the Rustinox special endmill 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼🇨🇦. Gilles
Hi Michel ☺ well done on making a working fly cutter, it Cutts great, and a nice finish. Thanks for another interesting video, this machine will be very useful to your further project's, stay safe my friend, best wishe's to you and your's, Stuart UK.
The one thing I really love about your channel is the fact that you make what you want from scrap material and basic tooling. This in my mind is true hobby engineering. Making a product with top of the range materials, machines and tooling doesn't blow my hair back as much as your efforts do. Nice one! Thanks for sharing!
I made one. real easy. fits 3/8 inch lathe insert type cutter. sill use it once in a while. Cutting down a thick piece of Delrin for a shoe to fit my bike rack on the rear. I put a common rack on bike but wanted a big plastic box on back. Going to use it at weekend farmers market, then at work. Another tool to use for making more tools. Slitting saw Arbors are also easy. When e-bay first started, you could get all kinds of stuff new old stock cheap. Still a great source.
Hej Rusti, love you use your English , even it if not your language, you have an accent, but you are completely understandible, wish i know all the word yuo do . And your project are spot on for us , newcommers. Well done Steffen, Denmark
looks the same I made 20 years agoo and stil use. great work. a litle note always make the bore first and adapt the outer diameter to the bore. much more easy than you did now. succes
Hey fellah. You're pretty cool. A little bit humorous. And I like that. 2:41 Please, continue? And having seen the success of the endeavor, I need another beer. Thanks for showing us that the insert is a viable adaption as a fly cutter. Which I usually consider a boring assembly, used to expand diameters but of course a surfacing tool as well.
I like the approach and the results turned out pretty good. Another approach to the problem is to make the tool so that you can mount a Lathe bit in in the fly cutter but you probably already considered that. Also, I have seen some that have a very wide cutting path use a square bar with a lathe bit mounted at he end. The thing I like about your approach is that with a little modification you could have a dove tail cutter. Great Job!
G'day Rusti. Well done making the fly cutter it will surely be handy in the shop. The fit of the shaft into the head was very tight, I'm sure it will not move. Cheers Peter
Where is the Fun in Buying a Machine that has all the Tooling you need ? No Point, that would spoil all the Fun, We Buy Machines to Make Tools for them, thats where the fun is. Great Job Rusti. I also had the Same Guide on my Sticker from Stevie, but mine also said Cut to Size.. Peel Backing LoL.
Lov the new mill addition, can't wait to see more projects using it,,,Nice shop made tool Rusti,,,Bear. Will go over and check out Stevie's channel, thx.
"I have a sharpie - that's not important" - heh heh, reminds me of that Leslie Neilsen line "We have to get this woman to a hospital", "What is it?", "It's a big building with patients, but that's not important right now"
Michel I watching your back catalogue videos now. This is a great build. And as you say with small end mills, shit happens! lol one thing, when you were talking about the feeds and speeds on the Deckel mill, you first quoted 30 metres per minute , then fourty , surely you meant 3 then 4 metres per min not 30 and 40. At that speed your table lwould have shot off of the end of the mill in a blink of an eye and kept going!
You and Cà Lem are my two of my favorite machinist channels for this exact reason! Need a tool? Make a tool! You are ingenious! p.s. You video editing skills are excellent!
Michel, you can't feed too slowly otherwise you're just rubbing against the material and you're going to end up dulling your insert quicker. Try feeding your fly cutter at least .002 - .005" per revolution. Also, when using a fly cutter..... It's very important to "tram-in the head" of your Mill (with a test dial indicator) so that it's perfectly square along the x and y axes. If the head is not perpendicular to your ways..... You will have a hard time achieving a completely flat surface: it may end up as a slightly "cupped" surface. And..... You will either be cutting with only the leading edge or the trailing edge of the sweep of your cutter. Ideally, you want both the leading sweep and the trailing sweep to leave a sort of cross-hatch pattern on your surface.
@@Rustinox This is a good study ...there are better videos out there on the shape of a fly cutter but this shows the why of it: ruclips.net/video/3LU_tFLZCCU/видео.html
It seems to me that a shrink fit would be more suitable than a press fit. N’est ci pas??? It’s easier to control and a pressing tends to weaken its hold as you assemble it. Stavros Stavros
Well done, that little pocket came out great, we all have to use imaginative ways to machine stuff in our little home workshops, but isnt that the fun of it all. It would be very boring if it was easy all of the time. I believe you will be able to use a high rpm on that tool as its only a single tipped tool, otherwise the feed would be very slow. I have plenty of duplicate carbide milling cutters in small sizes that i will send you, to aid in your videos. Can you or somebody else please let me have an email address i can contact you on please. Cheers. Mark from lincoln england.
LOL. In my both native languages we say "half", and not .5 It can also be 7 comma 5. The "point" is not used. It's only used to split every thousand. example; 10.000,5 Interesting to see different ways and expressions in different languages.
Very well done Michel. Making tools to make tools is of course our purpose in life.
And it's fun to do.
tool maker mill. Deckels are sought after. Make a tool post grinder and grind finish your shanks. Real big difference. Cover you ways carefully when using. Tooling is all over the place when you start looking for it.
I'm holed up indoors sheltering from Storm Eunice , Just started to get very bored with watching my carport fly away and you came along and saved me.
Great tool and they can be expensive to buy , welll worth making your own.
PS.
I'm in Suffolk so if anyone in Zandvoort sees some corrugated roofing going past ,it's mine thanks.
Carport? Maybe that was that loud noise I heart in my backyard...
Love you ingenuity Michel, this is what the younger generation need. It seems just too easy to buy one of the shelf. Keep 'em coming. Thanks.
I'm sure the younger generation is very good at other things.
nice one Michel,
I made a smaller version with 3 inserts in at an angle to re cut my valve seats on my old BMW R80 motorcycle, it works a treat. Great to see Machines making parts for there own use. Its much more fun than buying off the shelf, and not so punishing on the hard earned cash
keep up the good work
cheers
Kev
Spot on Kev. Make something from almost nothing.
Flycutters "ROCK" for a shop on a budget ! Well done Rusti !
Thanks.
We can always use more tools. Who said we do not need to make more? Lovely work as always Michael!
Thanks Bruno. Usually I make tools only when I need them.
Thank you for making this video and proving that you can use tools to make tools that will be used to make even more tools.
My pleasure. Make something from nothing, that's the idea.
Good result Rustinox. Great to see the milling machine working. Tony
Thanks Tony.
Well done Rusti, as usual you had me grinning! Tools to make tools to make tools, and endless cycle of enjoyment! Looks like it works very well. Apart from CNC, or using a rotary table, there are not really any other ways (apart from EDM) to put the insert shape in. Well done. Cheers, Jon
Nice. It means I wasn't too far off then :)
If you ever want a major in depth lesson on insert pocket design go see Robin Renzetti's video on making a small insert boring bar.
It will give you an idea on just how much engineering has gone into insert technology.
ruclips.net/video/zrHD01b0WW0/видео.html
Just what I needed, a shop visit at your place Michel. Nice job again you made scrap into something of value.
All the best
Dan
Thanks Dan. Scrap can be useful :)
@@Rustinox My Father said there is no such thing as scrap, it only becomes less useful as it get smaller! I have a lot of pre/loved Metal and NO SCRAP at my place! When I do work for People they will often say to me you can use your scrap for this part they need, I say a price for the scrap, they say but it is scrap! I then say well it is no good so you go and buy a bit of metal that is not scrap and I will make your part from that! Most of the time they agree that My Stock has Value. Sorry for long rant, I just needed to say that. John, Australia.
Well done! Didn't manage to follow the details and angles but holding an insert between the fingers it comes clear.
I'm quite fond of the face milling head I've got, and a collection of different inserts for steel, aluminum, mystery metall etc...
Well, I suppose you have one more project on your "to do" list now :)
Always nice to look over your shoulder now and then Michel. Always worth the watch. Gary
Thanks Gary.
Ahh yes Michel, the journey is sometimes more enjoyable than the destination. Loved it.
Cam
Absolutely right Cam.
Nothing is better than making a tool that works, excellent job, great video, keep'um coming..
My idea too. Thanks.
Muchas gracias maestro por brindarnos sus conocimientos 👍
My pleasure Rolando.
This was a good little project. Thanks for sharing it. You have a nice set of hammers.
Thanks. My pleasure.
You’ve definitely achieved the “Lets Roger That” level of tool making. A tool, that makes a tool to make another tool. Haha my goodness what a vicious circle we live in. Nicely done Michel. I’m working on a Volvo Penta inboard transmission shaft that likes destroying my HSS endmills. Here comes Rustinox to the rescue. Tomorrow I’m making the Rustinox special endmill 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼🇨🇦. Gilles
Go for it, Gilles. It rocks!
Hi Michel ☺ well done on making a working fly cutter, it Cutts great, and a nice finish. Thanks for another interesting video, this machine will be very useful to your further project's, stay safe my friend, best wishe's to you and your's, Stuart UK.
Thanks Stuart. Cheap, fun to build and it works. Who needs more?
Hi Michel. You did “Go for it” and the result is brilliant. As a first fly cutter you can indeed be very pleased. Well done. 👏👏👍😀
Thanks Andrew.
Nicely done. Another enjoyable video 👍 🇬🇧
Thanks. It's recreational to do... eh... never mind :)
Good video. Thanks. I’ve been thinking of trying to make a dovetail cutter for my mill. You make it look so simple. Thanks
Go for it. And if it fails... Go for it again :)
The one thing I really love about your channel is the fact that you make what you want from scrap material and basic tooling. This in my mind is true hobby engineering. Making a product with top of the range materials, machines and tooling doesn't blow my hair back as much as your efforts do. Nice one! Thanks for sharing!
It's a bit the idea behind this channel. Don't need much to make something useful.
Great result. Interesting detail on speeds and feeds. Thanks
Thanks Paul. Cutting speed counts :)
@ 6:50 spectacular rack of hammers - that belongs to a man who knows how to deal with a problem! Love your channel Rustinox, keep doing your thing 🙂
Thanks. I have more hammers but I need to make a second rack for it.
Well this just showed up in my feed ... and I am both impressed and entertained... Subbed!
Thanks for sharing 🇨🇦
Thanks Paul. You're welcome.
Nice one Rusti,
Thanks.
Awesome job! Your videos never disappoint. That should save you a lot of time and expense in future projects.
And it's fun to do. That's all we need.
And never ever forget, machines that make machines, will one day dominate the earth and all of mankind!!!!!!!
It already started...
Crafty as ever, Rusti! 👍
Thanks Dudley.
I made one. real easy. fits 3/8 inch lathe insert type cutter. sill use it once in a while.
Cutting down a thick piece of Delrin for a shoe to fit my bike rack on the rear. I put a common rack on bike but wanted a big plastic box on back. Going to use it at weekend farmers market, then at work. Another tool to use for making more tools. Slitting saw Arbors are also easy. When e-bay first started, you could get all kinds of stuff new old stock cheap. Still a great source.
It works fine.
Hej Rusti, love you use your English , even it if not your language, you have an accent, but you are completely understandible, wish i know all the word yuo do . And your project are spot on for us , newcommers. Well done Steffen, Denmark
Thanks Steffen. I think everybody has an accent :-)
Great discussion/build….enjoyed
Thanks Chuck.
Another great video. And a nice fly cutter. Dan USA
Thanks Dan.
Great job on the fly cutter when done right it is hard to beat the finish.
Thanks. I have to use it a bit more to see what it can do.
I liked that Michel!
Like you, I don't have and have never used a fly cutter. Time to make one 😁
Go for it!
looks the same I made 20 years agoo and stil use. great work. a litle note always make the bore first and adapt the outer diameter to the bore. much more easy than you did now.
succes
Thanks. I will give it a go next time.
Excellent work
Thanks.
Very nice job thanks
Thanks.
Tools to make tools that make tools Who would have thought !!! : >) Great show enjoyed every minute, even the swiffel vice got a chuckle. Cheers
Thanks Mick.
Good video, nice project!
Thanks Jim.
Hello Michel,
Nice work there...Nice to have another tool for your milling machine... See you on the next one...
Take care.
Paul,,
Thanks Paul.
Nice video Michel, much like you, I have aspirations of being a machinist, in reality all I am is a de-burring person! Enjoyed, cheers!
Nothing wrong with de-burring. It's the final touch.
Hey fellah. You're pretty cool. A little bit humorous. And I like that. 2:41 Please, continue? And having seen the success of the endeavor, I need another beer. Thanks for showing us that the insert is a viable adaption as a fly cutter. Which I usually consider a boring assembly, used to expand diameters but of course a surfacing tool as well.
These are cheap inserts, but they hold very well.
I like the approach and the results turned out pretty good. Another approach to the problem is to make the tool so that you can mount a Lathe bit in in the fly cutter but you probably already considered that. Also, I have seen some that have a very wide cutting path use a square bar with a lathe bit mounted at he end. The thing I like about your approach is that with a little modification you could have a dove tail cutter. Great Job!
Thanks James. I would like to try some other designs using HSS and carbide.
Looks good Michel!
Thanks. And it works!
G'day Rusti. Well done making the fly cutter it will surely be handy in the shop. The fit of the shaft into the head was very tight, I'm sure it will not move. Cheers Peter
Thanks Peter. I also think it will hold :)
Where is the Fun in Buying a Machine that has all the Tooling you need ? No Point, that would spoil all the Fun, We Buy Machines to Make Tools for them, thats where the fun is. Great Job Rusti. I also had the Same Guide on my Sticker from Stevie, but mine also said Cut to Size.. Peel Backing LoL.
Spot on George. Thanks.
Excellent technical work, the Black board may need a rest 😴.
Thanks for sharing
No Need. I just charged the batteries.
@@Rustinox Of course 🤦♀🤦♀
Gday, nice tool and works well, great job, Cheers
Thanks Matty.
Lov the new mill addition, can't wait to see more projects using it,,,Nice shop made tool Rusti,,,Bear. Will go over and check out Stevie's channel, thx.
Thanks Bear. You will see it in action in upcoming videos.
"I have a sharpie - that's not important" - heh heh, reminds me of that Leslie Neilsen line "We have to get this woman to a hospital", "What is it?", "It's a big building with patients, but that's not important right now"
Lol. I didn't know this one.
Michel I watching your back catalogue videos now. This is a great build. And as you say with small end mills, shit happens! lol one thing, when you were talking about the feeds and speeds on the Deckel mill, you first quoted 30 metres per minute , then fourty , surely you meant 3 then 4 metres per min not 30 and 40. At that speed your table lwould have shot off of the end of the mill in a blink of an eye and kept going!
You're right. 40m/min would be spectacular :)
You and Cà Lem are my two of my favorite machinist channels for this exact reason! Need a tool? Make a tool! You are ingenious! p.s. You video editing skills are excellent!
Thanks. I still have a long way to go before I reach the Cà Lem level :)
@@Rustinox He is on a level by himself, I think.
Joli travail et bonnes explications. surtout pour
Merci Dominique.
Michel, you can't feed too slowly otherwise you're just rubbing against the material and you're going to end up dulling your insert quicker. Try feeding your fly cutter at least .002 - .005" per revolution.
Also, when using a fly cutter..... It's very important to "tram-in the head" of your Mill (with a test dial indicator) so that it's perfectly square along the x and y axes. If the head is not perpendicular to your ways..... You will have a hard time achieving a completely flat surface: it may end up as a slightly "cupped" surface. And..... You will either be cutting with only the leading edge or the trailing edge of the sweep of your cutter. Ideally, you want both the leading sweep and the trailing sweep to leave a sort of cross-hatch pattern on your surface.
Thanks for your input. Really interesting.
THE NEW MILLIMG MACHINE ,***** 5 STARS SUPER COOL.
Thanks Kimber.
nice one again and your a very funny man like it
Thanks.
I am cutting steel with 150m/min, 0,2mm depth, 0,05 mm per rev.
I think the fp1 can handle up to 70mm radius for a fly cutter
That's very interesting information. Thanks.
Excelente.
Thanks.
I like it!
Thanks. Glad you do :)
Great job making the fly cutter! Keep the fly cutter safe before it FLIES away! (Joke)
I will keep it safe, promise :)
hi, thanks for the video! I have the same lathe, please tell me in more detail how did you make the tailstock clamp?
The original lock doesn't exist anymore. It's just a T-bolt.
You can see it in this video at 19:30.
Nice video. A new subscriber.
Thanks. You're welcome.
Lovely videos! Do you treat your finished tools with something to keep the rust away, or do you just keep them dry?
Just a bit of oil. It works just fine for me.
'Flycütter' - cute...:-D
I think so too :-)
I spoke too soon!!!
Stavros
Lol.
Hammering 🔨 on vice jaws 😢
No worries, it's a heavy piece. Almost unbreakable.
Nice
Thanks.
You have positive rake on your bit...Fly cutters should have negative rake. Big difference in how they cut.
Interesting. I will study it form a bit closer.
@@Rustinox This is a good study ...there are better videos out there on the shape of a fly cutter but this shows the why of it: ruclips.net/video/3LU_tFLZCCU/видео.html
It seems to me that a shrink fit would be more suitable than a press fit. N’est ci pas???
It’s easier to control and a pressing tends to weaken its hold as you assemble it.
Stavros
Stavros
Well, let's say, this was a shrink hammer fit :-)
Zut Alors! Are them your 'made in Germany clamps' you're cutting up? lol.
This one was not made in Germany. I suppose that's why it broke.
How did your make/buy that little brush head on your oiler can?
Google "glue pot with brush for leather work".
Well done, that little pocket came out great, we all have to use imaginative ways to machine stuff in our little home workshops, but isnt that the fun of it all. It would be very boring if it was easy all of the time. I believe you will be able to use a high rpm on that tool as its only a single tipped tool, otherwise the feed would be very slow. I have plenty of duplicate carbide milling cutters in small sizes that i will send you, to aid in your videos. Can you or somebody else please let me have an email address i can contact you on please. Cheers. Mark from lincoln england.
Indeed, no challenge no fun :-)
You can mail me at; rustinox@outlook.com
Thankyou. 👍
Are you from the Netherlands 😀
Nope, I'm from Belgium.
What, no shaper action? ☹
Next time. Promised!
I can't hold it in Mr. Rustinox. That should be 7.5mm not 7 1/2mm, such, my most respected metalwork teacher would consider a 'bastard' dimension lol
p.s. i love your content
LOL. In my both native languages we say "half", and not .5
It can also be 7 comma 5. The "point" is not used. It's only used to split every thousand. example; 10.000,5
Interesting to see different ways and expressions in different languages.
béotien comme moi
I take it that you have by accident, not on purpose, prioritized our american friends by resorting to 3rd angle projection
I just try to make it as clear as possible. If it's American or Bosnian or whatever, I don't care too much :-)
I like it!
Glad you do :)