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I would assume they are connected directly. When attaching a trickle charger the earth shouldn’t be fitted directly to the battery on any vehicle. If your charger has a meter it should confirm if it is charging.
That was brilliant, I've worked on cars for 50 years, (not a mechanic) sometimes I have to jump a vehicle and I'm stumped where to look, it always used to be the positive battery terminal and earth to body, these days batteries are hidden all over the vehicle so you really have to look for jumping points, I've not had a jump a Ducato/Promaster yet but now I'm ready.
Yes absolutely correct. If I was using cables on a car then the earth (on the vehicle that needs to be started) would be connected to the body. Thanks for watching and your comment.
To be honest, I talk a lot. My short could be another’s long. Just wanted this to be straight to the point as people are going to click on it because they just want to know. Thanks for watching and your support.
I came here because I had a dead battery on my camping car on Fiat Ducato 2013. But when I lifted the hood at the spot where you have the earth point at 0:58 I just have a hole. So I jump started the battery itself. Is there another point where I could clamp the negative cable under the hood? Thanks a lot for your videos. They are very clear and well done and I learn a lot.
Thanks for the video. At the end, you noted with a jump pack you only need to attach the positive leads. Is the process the same if you use a Noco Boost unit rather than a donor vehicle?
Thanks. We use a trickle charger on our cars and we attach the earth to somewhere on the vehicle itself as per the instructions for the charger. The only point I know is that they never recommend putting both positive and negative cables direct to the battery.
I have an air compressor to pump up tyres on my Ducato campervan, and instructions say don’t use the cigar lighter socket if it is under 15v, and to connect to these battery terminals instead. I hope the + and the - are close enough together to clip my extension- and I wonder if the + needs connecting first, then the - clip?
My 2015 Ducato was jump started with a non overcharge protected starter pack, which spiking at over 14 volts fried the airbag ECU. This is quite common & the firm Crashdata must make a lot of money from re-programming & replacing jump started air bag ECU's 😢 I know it was an over 14 volts spike from the crashdata data sheet they sent. In my case the airbag ECU was partially shot, I managed to get the airbag light reset for a few months with my code reader, then the light stayed on & the unit was totally shot. I was very lucky to be able to get a rare (in 2021) new replacement module from Crashdata after waiting a few months. There is supposedly a real shortage of these ECU's in the spring (lots of ECU subtypes as well, this is not one standard fit all part) when stored motorhomes are jump started with a too high voltage pack. If a new ECU is not available the alternative you have is to go scrabbling about on Ebay for a second hand one, with the right model number & hope that has not been spiked. Lots to bear in mind then... before you put those jump leads on 😂
My portable jump starter can't fully reach the earth point bolt. Can it also be connected to the plate instead or does it need to be connected to the bolt only?
The arrow and my finger point to the pin which is the earth point. I do not know the wheel nut size or torque setting. Welcome any answers in the comments to those questions.
The location is there for that. Interested to hear what you suggest to do in the event of a flat battery. I will contact Fiat Technical in Italy and ask as they were very helpful giving me support for the Adblue video.
@@LiveforTravel I've also read lots of horror stories about fried ecus and airbag modules from jump starting the ducato. My battery dying is my biggest fear after reading them all!
@@Sythesynths the Ducato, and it's other models from the shared platform (Citroen and Peugeot) have got problems with the failure of airbag ECUs. If replaced at a dealer it is very expensive and you can't fit one yourself without the correct software to code the unit to the vehicle. Owners who have them replaced are sometimes being given a 2 year warranty on the part So yes, I am very wary but if a battery goes flat you either have to jump start it or replace it with a new one.
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You sir are a legend.Thank you very much.
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Can I charge the battery from the same points as you jumped started from?
I would assume they are connected directly. When attaching a trickle charger the earth shouldn’t be fitted directly to the battery on any vehicle. If your charger has a meter it should confirm if it is charging.
Thank you sir!
You just saved us. We tried the wrong way at first.
Thanks for watching and the feedback.
Thank you so much for your tutorial. Needed this information today after our fiats battery was flat. Your information step by step worked a treat.
Thanks you for watching and your support. Glad it helped.
Excellent video to help beginners, I've just posted it on another group to help a couple with a flat battery. Cheers..
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No probs, praise where it's due. I knew where the points were, but the video explains it very well.
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Uitstekend, ook voor een "leek", goede uitleg en alles wordt getoond.
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That was brilliant, I've worked on cars for 50 years, (not a mechanic) sometimes I have to jump a vehicle and I'm stumped where to look, it always used to be the positive battery terminal and earth to body, these days batteries are hidden all over the vehicle so you really have to look for jumping points, I've not had a jump a Ducato/Promaster yet but now I'm ready.
Yes absolutely correct. If I was using cables on a car then the earth (on the vehicle that needs to be started) would be connected to the body. Thanks for watching and your comment.
I love the way you said i'll keep it short..just as i was about to fastforward. Very helpful little vid. Thank you
To be honest, I talk a lot. My short could be another’s long. Just wanted this to be straight to the point as people are going to click on it because they just want to know.
Thanks for watching and your support.
Thanks for this - very useful.
Thanks for watching.
You got me going again safely,Many thanks!
Excellent 👍
Thx for showing this, very usefull
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Another top tip👍
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your videos are great mate...straight to the point..you have helped me !!
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brilliant share. thanks
I came here because I had a dead battery on my camping car on Fiat Ducato 2013. But when I lifted the hood at the spot where you have the earth point at 0:58 I just have a hole. So I jump started the battery itself. Is there another point where I could clamp the negative cable under the hood? Thanks a lot for your videos. They are very clear and well done and I learn a lot.
Most clean metal surfaces are usually fine for an Earth. Thanks for your support.
Thanks for the video. At the end, you noted with a jump pack you only need to attach the positive leads. Is the process the same if you use a Noco Boost unit rather than a donor vehicle?
Thanks. We use a trickle charger on our cars and we attach the earth to somewhere on the vehicle itself as per the instructions for the charger. The only point I know is that they never recommend putting both positive and negative cables direct to the battery.
Brilliant, thanks. I got as far as "lift flap A" in the manual. But of course it gives you no idea how to do that once you've found flap A.
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Thank you so much!👍🏼
Thanks for watching 👍
I have an air compressor to pump up tyres on my Ducato campervan, and instructions say don’t use the cigar lighter socket if it is under 15v, and to connect to these battery terminals instead. I hope the + and the - are close enough together to clip my extension- and I wonder if the + needs connecting first, then the - clip?
You should be able to use any earth point.
My 2015 Ducato was jump started with a non overcharge protected starter pack, which spiking at over 14 volts fried the airbag ECU. This is quite common & the firm Crashdata must make a lot of money from re-programming & replacing jump started air bag ECU's 😢 I know it was an over 14 volts spike from the crashdata data sheet they sent. In my case the airbag ECU was partially shot, I managed to get the airbag light reset for a few months with my code reader, then the light stayed on & the unit was totally shot. I was very lucky to be able to get a rare (in 2021) new replacement module from Crashdata after waiting a few months. There is supposedly a real shortage of these ECU's in the spring (lots of ECU subtypes as well, this is not one standard fit all part) when stored motorhomes are jump started with a too high voltage pack.
If a new ECU is not available the alternative you have is to go scrabbling about on Ebay for a second hand one, with the right model number & hope that has not been spiked.
Lots to bear in mind then... before you put those jump leads on 😂
I hadn’t heard of that but will start finding more info. Never had any issues when using jump leads (rather than jump packs).
My portable jump starter can't fully reach the earth point bolt. Can it also be connected to the plate instead or does it need to be connected to the bolt only?
Any good metal should serve well as an Earth.
Hi i have Citroen relay 2015 not smart alternator. Question is could i charge the battery from these points.
I have not found any conclusive information regarding this from Fiat.
Did you have to do this through necessity or did you just feel like it?
Planned video.
The earth is the pin. Not the bracket it is mounted on.
Question.... What size are the wheel nuts....and torque setting??
The arrow and my finger point to the pin which is the earth point. I do not know the wheel nut size or torque setting. Welcome any answers in the comments to those questions.
you should not jump start it can kill the computer costing thousands of dollars
The location is there for that. Interested to hear what you suggest to do in the event of a flat battery.
I will contact Fiat Technical in Italy and ask as they were very helpful giving me support for the Adblue video.
@@LiveforTravel I've also read lots of horror stories about fried ecus and airbag modules from jump starting the ducato. My battery dying is my biggest fear after reading them all!
@@Sythesynths the Ducato, and it's other models from the shared platform (Citroen and Peugeot) have got problems with the failure of airbag ECUs. If replaced at a dealer it is very expensive and you can't fit one yourself without the correct software to code the unit to the vehicle.
Owners who have them replaced are sometimes being given a 2 year warranty on the part
So yes, I am very wary but if a battery goes flat you either have to jump start it or replace it with a new one.