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If there was a legion of Necrons that became worshippers of Tzeentch, and they turned their armour blue to respect him, would a guardsmen mistake him as a cheap Thousand Sons cosplayer?
Yes, although there is still the whole cease and desist issue is still going on, so maybe some Necro-lawyers will advise them against it, no one wants to mess with the Chaos Gods of Law and Sue.
I think that the Tyranids are a bio-weapon of the Ancients, designed to kill all life in the Milky Way, given their adaptability they could also assimilate during the digestion the necron biométal. Kill all life in the universe. No life, no agitatied warp, no chaos influence, no nécron,the c'tan remain locked up for ever. The Emperor and the gods Aeldari remain factors that can not really anticipated, because we know little about their origin and their affinity with immaterium / materium.
Orks are the counter to Chaos. Necrons were chaos until GM got rid of Chaos Androids. Look up shit like Space Crusade. They made an entire race based on that. That is why they are so fucking stupid. They go against logic and their playstyle actually goes against the narrative. They are not diverse which is also very stupid. As an AI or smart species would understand things like itteration. Then there is the fact they are probably one of the worst designs... They are so lucky that James Cameron doesn't seem to mind plagiarism. At least 'Nids got diversity to hide the fact they ripped of Hans Geiger and Ridley Scott. I really wish someone would make a video on this subject... Someone other that Stuart bloody Ashens. None of you lot seem to cover anything that happened more than 5 years ago. Personally I haven't played 40k since GCSEs, as I grew up and got a life. It's weird. You lot make all this content on theories and shit ... yet ignore your own history. You get wrapped up in the narrative like it's factual and not fiction. That's another reason I stopped playing because people act like it is real and when you question something they act like it wasn't a writer making a choice and instead get all autist and start screeching about "But this is what happened" ... No, little man, thats what somebody created. Same goes here. Necrons are bad design and shows that 40k now is completely different to 40k at any other point in time... Imagine if Tolkeins family rewrote LotR and changed characters and races. LOL.
@@nickarmitt4722 You came here to watch a RUclips video on 40K lore and then shit on everyone like you're somehow better? Yet you are here in the comments section of a video discussing something you seem to despise. Go get on with your important life and leave the people who enjoy this to it, or produce the video as you would like it to be done, or stop your negativity, self-righteousness and whining.
I honestly can't imagine a Chaos Ork. I feel like they would like Khorne, but why would they fall to chaos when even da stoopidest grot knowz dat green is best.
Chris Ballew as per the official lore, there actually is a Waaaaagh that flew into the eye of Terror and laid Siege to Khorne's world. They died but he was so impressed he resurrected them so that they eternally fight day after day after day for all of eternity. It's noted in the lore that the Orcs as far as they're concerned are in heaven and have found true Paradise
for me Necrons and the C'tan are the absolut opposite of the Chaos. So no corruption, please!!! I hope GW never change this via redcon there originstory.
@@happyhammer1 The Necron existed before Chaos and their bodies and constructs repel the warp and regenerate from decay/corruption. You could say Necron are anathema to Chaos. Chaos and even Tyranids avoid tomb worlds almost instinctively unless there happens to be some other larger presence of something else to attract them, like say a major Imperial colony. Also, i'm not sure how much the rules have changed when it comes to "preferred enemies", but there used to be faction bonuses/penalties when playing as one faction against another. Both Space Marines and Chaos Space Marines had each other as preferred enemies and their bonuses effectively canceled each other out, IG got penalties against Chaos because they feared Chaos. Necron i think were unfavoured enemies to Chaos so Chaos suffered penalties when fighting Necrons. Then there's the original lore where closing the eye of terror was one of the 2 major goals of the Necron, potentially something to do with either hating "empyrean gods" inherently because they also got duped by so called gods or cutting off the competition so the C'Tan could feast on other souls besides themselves.
I find it hard to process that necrons can be tainted by the warp since they were made by the C'tan to be the ultimate bane of psykers and the warp like them so i dont think that they can be tainted by the warp because then the old ones would have crushed them right?
@WASDLeftClick Wait a second, didn't the Old Ones create the Krorks and not the Eldar to fight the Necrontyr? From what I can remember the Necrontyr were jealous of the Old Ones power and the galaxy spanning empire the Eldar had. Years later they found sun eating clouds and put them into large bodies which then turned into the C'tan. Necrontyr were then fucked over by the C'tan and turned to Necrons, long story short the Necrontyr and C'tan were then fucked by both Necrons, Eldar with Wraithbone and the Krorks. Necrons then decided to just sleep cause it was such a fucking disaster, Krorks are still being Krorks which meant that they killed each other to see who the biggest and baddest git is and the Eldar fucked a lot
Chaos corruption of a thinking being is different than a thing being pervaded with the power of Chaos. If a Necron can make free choices, is culpable, and does not simply carry out deterministic commands, then it can be corrupted. This is why the curse of Slaanesh on Lucius requires that the agent who kills Lucius takes part in the sin/evil of pleasure in the kill and the vanity of vanquishing a champion of Slaanesh/Chaos. An object may be imbued with Chaotic influence or power, but if it is cut off from the Warp, then one can find out what the nature of the possession/infestation/etc. actually is. This is where GW gets a little squishy with their understanding of the long history and logic of the struggle between good and evil goes. Possession is not the same thing as infestation. The questions that we have to ask ourselves while reading the books can have the effect of stretching our contemplation of that struggle without GW weighing too heavily in on the issue. Great question for a 40K theories video, thanks again!
I have to say that Lucius Taking over a necron's body was the result of very poor writting and the refusal of Games Workshop to accept that Lucius was gone forever, they can not accept that one of their toys is dead you see...
Here's an idea: Have you considered doing a video on ways one could theoretically kill Lucius permanently? I've come up with a lot of ways myself but pretty much all of them have some form of loophole Slaanesh could use to bring her favorite boy-toy back. Trick him into killing *himself,* and you'd still get turned into him because it was your idea in the first place, for example. Only thing I can think of that MIGHT work is for someone to kill him then immediately jump into an incinerator or something. *And even THAT might not do the trick...*
With Vashtorr gaining more power (and almost becoming a Chaos God) I think it would possible he will try to capture some Nekrons and use them in his Experiments Thus creating a Chaos Necrons/a Necron-Demon
11:35 my theory that the Phasing Sword either: 1) Deliberately became Lucius for purpose only he knows - Lucius the Eternally Metal? 2) Was denied access to null field matrix by a higher authority of the Necron hierarchy 3) Slaanesh resurrected Lucius the normal way, from the Warp, and the Necron's fate was made up 4) Occurs in an alternate universe where Necrons have souls and no null field matrix technology 5) Phasing Sword had negotiated with the C'tan to keep his soul Phasing Sword could've used a null field matrix to wipe away the Lucius, as if being a Necron wasn't enough.
In the War in Heaven, the Old Ones used the power of the warp against the Necron, thus the psychic component of many of their engineered races. The Necron, in turn, developed very sophisticated defenses against the warp even before transferring into their metal bodies. While it might be possible for Necron to fall to Chaos, it would be rare - and probably seen as both the ultimate failure and ultimate abomination by other Necron.
Umm more chaos orks are born all a time. Some are psykers who cherish dark gods to essentially prevent them from going caboom with out proper fight and some are just normal orcs who decided that they need more power than what WHAAAAAAGGG!!!!!! energy can provide. Most chaos orks just get sent to fight for dark powers where seen fit. Others like Tuska, the "Daemon-Killa" invaded eye or terror and impressed Khorne so much that Tuska and his warband rises every morning and repeats the fight eternally.
sunbabybull I wouldn't say they have souls but I would say try still have the residue of souls. Maybe not very tasty for a Daemon but perhaps enough to manipulate a Cron even if only fleetingly.
I've thought about this question, and I always found Malice to be the most likely patron for any chaos necron. Not to say it's likely to begin with, but from what I understand the necron intensely hate the warp and everything related to it, so if any it'd be the one that actively hunts the others.
I am a Necronfan. I can accept that maybe, with a glimmer of a Chance, Necrons could be corrupted by Chaos. BUT i will never accept the Lucius-Arguement. He is just bad written with the saddest excuse of a plot-armour.
Got a question. Is there any canon evidence of how the Tyranids/the Hive Mind are effected by blanks and what happens if they consume and absorb the pariah gene?
If anything regarding the Hivemind and Tyranids is still canon then Tyranid would actively avoid pariahs, and should a planet with one or on it fall and be consumed by the hive fleet then they'd just simply ignore them or their corpses due to simply not 'existing' to the hivemind and scaring away all feral unconnected tyranids. Ripper would just give wide berth to them while nom-noming rest of the planets biomass.
According to Commissar Cain, HERO OF THE IMPERIUM, Tyranids physically recoiled from his blank aide Jeugen, and showed signs of severe confusion due to the disruption to the Hive Mind. Results varied - sometimes they'd flee, other times they'd react violently. Reverting to their base instincts was common.
James Maki The Ciaphas Cain novels have a few scenes where a Blank disrupts the Tyranid psychic link. Usually, the outcome is that the affected 'Nids get confused as their brain switches from remote control to local, as it were. That gives the Commissar enough time to either get away, or kill them while they're still disoriented.
James Maki read the ciaphus Cain novels Jürgen is a blank and regularly disrupts synapse creatures and brood telepathy amongst both nids and stealer cultists. He's pretty awesome for it actually. It's the main reason that Cain keeps him around. It usually manifests as distraction in the creatures that get too close, as if they have just walked into a pungent odour. This moment of confusion has saved Cain hundreds of times as it's given him not only a moment to capitalise on but also allows him a bit of safety from psychic attacks... In those books though it is a area based effect, the closer Jürgen is to Cain or the assailant the safer he is and the more confused the foe. Think in the earlier books it helps him against a slaanesh Daemon if I'm not mistaken. In one of the word bearers books there is also an explanation of Blackstone effecting some word bearers... They simply get cut off from the warp and the possessed member of the group looses contact with his body sharing warp entity...
So, we had Soulless Ancient Space Terminators before... Now we have Warp Corrupted and Possessed, Insane Soulless Ancient Space Terminators. ... Yeah, i think it's time to fire a few volleys of cyclonic torpedos... Actually, just fire everything we've got, i don't want to deal with this shit today... Or ever for that matter. :|
I can't help but think that Khorne in particular would take an interest in the flayed ones, and that he would take a sick delight in these creatures causing so much chaos (lol) and bloodshed but never being able to gain any satisfaction
I love Malice! “We shall deny Nurgle their flesh to fester and rot. We shall deny Khorne their blood and skulls. We shall deny Tzeentch their destinies and fates. We shall deny Slaanesh their pleasure and pain. Death to the Dark Gods! For the Renegade God! Let the galaxy burn!”
In most lore, nurgle is regarded as being the third of the chaos gods to be born, during the plagues the human race suffered through the early days of civilisation. However from what we know of the Necrontyr in their early days before they met the old ones and c'tan, they were a sickly and short lived race, their entire civilisations constructed around death and decay, and most of their races scientific output fruitlessly spent on trying to extend their lives. It is hence possible to see in the early necrontyr as an embodiment of many of the traits and ideals of Nurgle seen in the 41st millenium. So it seems very likely that Nurgle existed at this time in at least a primordial state, if not yet a full fledged god. The old ones disdain for the necrontyr was perhaps due only to their ignorance of the warp, the race was obsessed with trying to cure their afflictions solely in the physical world, blind to their link to the warp. Perhaps the old ones saw them as a failure who would never discover the warp and hence succumb to it and die out, or perhaps they believed they needed to be given the time to discover and master it on their own. It is also likely that the c'tan knew of the warp, and its link to the necrontyrs illness, but knew that they had to keep them completely ignorant of this in order to keep them as their slaves and puppets, hence they gave them blackstone not initially as a weapon against the old ones, but as shackles to keep them from reaching their true potential as psykers.
@@rhorynotmylastname7781 No, there is a vast and significant difference between an Abominable Intelligence and a Machine Spirit. Namely, that of a soul. (Remember in 40k AI stands for Abominable Intelligence, not Artificial Intelligence. And the distinction between the two is whether the machine has a soul or not.)
But this is the chief librarian of the Ultrasmurfs we're talking about here, he can link his mind to the tyranid hive mind and not only avoid becoming a gibbering vegetable but gain actual insight into some small sliver of its plans. Because he is reinforced and protected by that truest and most magnificent of materials in the 40k world... Plot armour! XD
There is an official licenses warhammer 40k book detailing a "green glowing always changing liquid metal demon" he was on a space hulk that previously fought in a campaign against the necrons with many trophys taken which were gone missing .. its been years .. i cannot recall which book it was but it was official!
I don't think we have any real evidence that they can be corrupted. Even the few passages we do have are too vague to definitively prove that. The only real point of contagion is Lucius and I firmly believe that it was written intentionally to show just how awesome he is by an author who might not have had the firmest grasp on this point. Keep in mind just how many different authors write for GW, most of the time there will be discrepancies. Also, bear in mind that only the higher ranking Necrons can even feel emotions (debatable if they actually feel or just remember the concept - the debate whether the Necrons that have individuality left are just programmed to be like that or actually have a "ghost"). And since Chaos is based in and draws from sentient emotions they would have a really hard time infecting a mind that has non, even if he's not a Blank or a Pariah.
it did and this is a case of contradictory lore. there are several sources and reasons that they are the bane of chaos but as anyone can write a book and many of the people who approve books do not know the lore we end up in situations like this. its the same reason we have books where a normal chaos space marine killing a Custode and a backflipping Terminator!
Pretth sure the Necrons would hate Tzeentch, being the god of manipulation, revolution, and change. Mostly for the manipulation part. Old wounds from old Star Gods.
They're older than Slaanesh. | 5:18 - An Alpha Legion book? | 6:55 - (monotone) All hail the Ultrasmurfs. | 7:16 - Castigator, the STC AI Titan that had a cannon that shot daemons is a named example. | 8:04 #blamelorgar
If you ask me Necrons can be corrupted by chaos, even if only in case of their bodies however their souls will forever be not tainted by chaos because they got no soul as it was consumed by C'Tans. Now let us start thinking more about if their robotic mind is free of corruption or not? After all Chaos Scrap Code can be used against machine spirit so can it also be used against mind of the necrons? Also very interesting fact here during The Carnac Campaign Orikan the Diviner can obstruct somehow Eldar Seers divination (they look upon skeins of fate to see best possible futures ahead) this can somehow hint us that necrons can see and interfere with the warp through some means and have the presence in the warp thus making them vulnerable to taint of chaos, but another question is can all necrons be seen in the warp or only those who retained their minds after biotransfer? After all immaterium is being made out of raw emotion given physical form so if necrons in command think and feel it means they are also making impact in the warp itself am I right ? So if they make impact on the warp they also are vulnerable to corruption or so I think.
No Scrapcode would be virtually worthless. The Necrons architecture is too alien, and if it was viable the Word Bearers would have used it against them.
what is meant by "soul" in 40k. is it like, free will? the ability to experience emotions? also, one could argue all those machines you mentioned have some kind of basic ai, or machine spirit, and so can have that soul corrupted.
Yes, can we please talk more about the chaos genestealer cults, and how the heck THAT'S supposed to make any semblance of sense? I'm assuming they're like the Custodians being nudists, where it was something from the older editions that they never TECHNICALLY retconned away despite, you know, the whole Tyrannid thing.
It would be incredible to see the taint of chaos be able to affect them, and you'd be able to field blackstone-amplified chaos gauss weaponry. On second thought, that sounds pretty destructive.
40K Theories I still don’t understand how a deaman could possess a blank and still have that blank BE a blank. The moment all the anti warp shinanigans begins the deamon would be destroyed or repelled no matter how powerful it is. It’s like oil and water, it doesn’t matter if it’s extra virgin or not, the two just don’t mix.
I would assume that the only way for chaos necrons to exist would either be on a small scale due to warp smiths of traitor legions working on them similarly to defilers as a status symbol (a necron with a daemon shoved into it would probably be immensely powerful given necrodermis being what it is) Secondly maybe it could occur from a tomb world being sucked into the warp? I still like the idea of the first one, chaos marines who go necron hunting to build a pet killing machine, a uber necron lord bound to the will of its owner, with the combined powers giving it the destructive power of a warhound scout titan.
Question, what happens if a swarm of scarabs killed Lucius? Or a swarm of Tyranid rippers? Sure a tyranid may be able to feel something that could be interpreted as satisfaction, but that wouldn't be the same as pride. I suppose if it was the Swarmlord, perhaps, but then what happens if the beast in question is dissolved and reconsumed by the Hive Fleet?
Depends on the intention of the Chaos personality. If it was to be dissolved and its energy dispersed, it would like to keep its own Daemonic awareness and personality intact and seek to distance itself from its impending doom. HOWEVER, if it wants to infect the entire Hive Fleet, it would then allow itself to infect the swarm through being dissolved, either to infect the bio forge machinery which would then create Chaos infected units, or by being a virus within the 'nid ecosystem. So in short, being a Trojan horse. That scenario can only play out depending on the nature of Chaos energy and channeling of warp entities within the Tyranid fleet and psychic control of its units. The big problem is that there is no "souls" for the Daemons to feed on (and thereby to keep their forms in the physical plane), even though organic beings are the best places to gain a foothold within. I could however, see the Dark Mechanicum or some form of obscure Chaos ritual that might "twist" organic matter into something far more deadlier, especially of the Nurgle or Slaanesh variant.
Lucius is a giant Mary-Sue, they'll never show him being killed by anything less than a character worthy of a name to feel pride thus resurrect him. But my guess is one of two things. A: Lucius avoids anything that truly won't give a damn whether he killed him. or B: Slaanesh would just resurrect him in some dumb cultists body.
I think up till the 4th ed codex they definitely were immune, but with the 5th+ codex realisation of them onwards, that's all changed, and can't argue there. I think there is another intrinsic thing about human ships, vehicles and stcs; machine spirits and incidental geometries have some kind of impact on the likelihood of possession. Perhaps necron structures are built to geometries that avoid the shapes that summon things, or lack machine spirits/its only as corruptible as any other necron. The very definition of corruption is also debatable. Is just obvious warp deterioration of something enough, or does it have to turn the necrontyr to the worship snd service of chaos powers
I’m not sure there is an implication of necrons being corrupted in the infected tombworld. Let’s look at another story, In LoTR did the dwarves help the balrog take over Moria? He certainly corrupted one of the home realms of the race. I know the verbiage you used was exact, but I think that boils down to nit picking (or starring at the 3D picture too long lol)
I always understood that necrons had to be susceptible to chaos or in the very least warp energy. The reason being that the Old Ones having pushed for more psychic power when developing the Eldar and to a lesser extent, the Krorks. Why do so unless it was proving effective. And if something can be affected by psykic lightning or something then that would necessitate a acceptability to chaos as well. When it comes to the 3 great galactic threats, while overly simplistic, I treat them as in a broadly rock paper scissors exchange. Chaos can trump Necrons because of that implied weakness. Necrons trump Tyranids due to their weapons being especially devastating to organic matter and while you have posited that Tyranids can consume Necrons I would still assume they would have difficulty doing so and they would likely have a net loss in biomass by the end of any engagement. Lastly the Tyranids trump Chaos due to the shadow in the Warp. While individual Tyranids, as you said in this video, can fall to chaos I would presume it would be isolated genestealers and the like, who lack the full protection of the shadow in the Warp. While reductionist and there are exceptions I believe this broadly holds up in the grand scheme of things
I would love to see a full Theory video dedicated to Lucius and if he can ever be truly killed with his “blessing”. Originally I would think, of all races, the Necron or Tau would have the best chance of killing him for good, as they posses the most “emotionless” weapons to turn on him, such as drones or baseline Warriors. But then I read the short story Lucius: Pride and Fall. In it, Lucius is killed by, Of all things, a landmine. End of story, right? Not like a landmine can take pride in the kill. Except he ends up possessing, instead, over the course of days, the arms factorum worker who assembled that particular landmine, as he had taken a measure of pride in his work. Even sectors away, Lucius took control and proceeeded to slaughter his family and fellow citizens. So even if a emotionless vessel kills him, as long as ANYONE involved in creating it or had a hand in his death takes pride in it, be it in ending him or just in the lethality of their device, he can steal their bodies and add them to his armor.
Lucius is ridiculous. And the most ridicuous thing about him is that he's shit. He constantly dies, he constantly gets owned by everything and everyone. His armour is just a huge picture of all the people that were much better than him, thrashed him and killed him. The souls trapped in his amour shouldn't aren't screaming, they're laughing at him. Lucius the Eternal (joke).
But...what if its the C'tan that does him in? IIRC, they are not a soul bearing species and I'm pretty sure any remnant of pride the ancient Necrontyr had in their hand with making the soul eating pokemon is about as dead as Olanius Pious. Now that I think about it, it would be fun to read about a Transcendant C'tan going to town on him and then having his soul just....kinda hang out. Or trapped inside a Tesseract Vault when he cheeses and comes back. I wonder if it would be possible...
Here's what I think, the Necrons aren't impervious to chaos but instead are incapable of strengthening the warp due to the lack of souls. As a result even if the forces of chaos conquered the Necrons they wouldn't be able to strengthen the warps power but instead act as meat (or rather metal) shields for the chaos gods
i have a question about the necrons, about a unit from them in general: the Pariah! the pariahs were a unit within the first necron codex and as their name suggest, they were ment to counter psychers. the most intruiging thing about them was their design: they look very different than the other necrons, even human-like. just google them and look at the pictures and you will see what i mean. so now to my question: what happened to the necron Pariahs? were they written out of the lore, or ist there an explanation what are they and what has happened to them?
well, I would assume there is no difference from male or female necrons as they are actual metal-skeletons and there are no real differences for skeletons (well, you may convert some necron-warriors with a wider pelvis ;) )...I think however it might be possible to show the gender with lords and such in regards of all the decoration and details, but then again I'm not sure how to make it look really feminine. Maybe something looking like a skirt (made out of hundreds of cables) or a typical-shaped upper-armor or a mask (like Khalida from the Khemri [WHFB]).
I honestly think that why ai always turns hostile to organic life is due to the c'tan or necrons. Either some of the necrons souls possessing the robots when they gain sentience, or through a curse or something from the c'tan
An interesting idea would be, could the necrons bind daemons witin the metal that they trapped teh C'tan in. Which would allow them to survive outside of the warp, and also could this be done for a chaos god, or anti chaos god
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If there was a legion of Necrons that became worshippers of Tzeentch, and they turned their armour blue to respect him, would a guardsmen mistake him as a cheap Thousand Sons cosplayer?
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Oh god. What if TS dust got infused with the necrodermis? It'd be like an unarmored TS except more sad.
So a "Sand Marine"?...that sounds sick!
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Yes, although there is still the whole cease and desist issue is still going on, so maybe some Necro-lawyers will advise them against it, no one wants to mess with the Chaos Gods of Law and Sue.
Okay, but what about Chaos Tyranids?
OR CHAOS CHAOS!!?
OR CHAOS POTATOES!!?
*INCEPTION SOUND*
"OR CHAOS CHAOS!!?"
My friend, I do believe that is just called chaos.
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MAYBE TAHT'S WHAT THEY WANT YOU TO BELIVE AND THE TRUTH IS THAT THE EMPEROR CREATED THE IMPIRIUM TO FIGHT THE FORCES OF CHAOS CHAOS
SUPER CHAOS ROBOTS!!! CHAOS SPACE TERMINATORS BUT NOT REALLY CAUSE COPYRIGHT!!
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Me: hol up
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The necrons have the ultimate coutner agaisnt chaos:
Kill all life in the universe.
No life, no agitatied warp, no chaos influence.
I think that the Tyranids are a bio-weapon of the Ancients,
designed to kill all life in the Milky Way,
given their adaptability they could also assimilate during the digestion the necron biométal.
Kill all life in the universe.
No life, no agitatied warp, no chaos influence,
no nécron,the c'tan remain locked up for ever.
The Emperor and the gods Aeldari remain factors that can not really anticipated,
because we know little about their origin and their affinity with immaterium / materium.
@@monotov4765, thats orks. They were bioweapon of the old ones.
Orks are the counter to Chaos.
Necrons were chaos until GM got rid of Chaos Androids. Look up shit like Space Crusade. They made an entire race based on that. That is why they are so fucking stupid.
They go against logic and their playstyle actually goes against the narrative.
They are not diverse which is also very stupid. As an AI or smart species would understand things like itteration.
Then there is the fact they are probably one of the worst designs... They are so lucky that James Cameron doesn't seem to mind plagiarism. At least 'Nids got diversity to hide the fact they ripped of Hans Geiger and Ridley Scott.
I really wish someone would make a video on this subject... Someone other that Stuart bloody Ashens. None of you lot seem to cover anything that happened more than 5 years ago. Personally I haven't played 40k since GCSEs, as I grew up and got a life. It's weird. You lot make all this content on theories and shit ... yet ignore your own history. You get wrapped up in the narrative like it's factual and not fiction. That's another reason I stopped playing because people act like it is real and when you question something they act like it wasn't a writer making a choice and instead get all autist and start screeching about "But this is what happened" ... No, little man, thats what somebody created.
Same goes here. Necrons are bad design and shows that 40k now is completely different to 40k at any other point in time... Imagine if Tolkeins family rewrote LotR and changed characters and races. LOL.
@@nickarmitt4722 You came here to watch a RUclips video on 40K lore and then shit on everyone like you're somehow better?
Yet you are here in the comments section of a video discussing something you seem to despise.
Go get on with your important life and leave the people who enjoy this to it, or produce the video as you would like it to be done, or stop your negativity, self-righteousness and whining.
I honestly can't imagine a Chaos Ork. I feel like they would like Khorne, but why would they fall to chaos when even da stoopidest grot knowz dat green is best.
Well Nurgle is green most of the time..
But red ones go faster!
What about chaos gretchins?
Yeah but Nurgle is even less Orky.
Chris Ballew as per the official lore, there actually is a Waaaaagh that flew into the eye of Terror and laid Siege to Khorne's world. They died but he was so impressed he resurrected them so that they eternally fight day after day after day for all of eternity. It's noted in the lore that the Orcs as far as they're concerned are in heaven and have found true Paradise
for me Necrons and the C'tan are the absolut opposite of the Chaos. So no corruption, please!!!
I hope GW never change this via redcon there originstory.
How are they absolute opposites? I'm genuinely curious as to what you mean.
@@happyhammer1 chaos is the unfortunate side effect of emotion, humanity and feeling. Now think about what the ctan did to the necrontyr
@@happyhammer1 The Necron existed before Chaos and their bodies and constructs repel the warp and regenerate from decay/corruption. You could say Necron are anathema to Chaos. Chaos and even Tyranids avoid tomb worlds almost instinctively unless there happens to be some other larger presence of something else to attract them, like say a major Imperial colony. Also, i'm not sure how much the rules have changed when it comes to "preferred enemies", but there used to be faction bonuses/penalties when playing as one faction against another. Both Space Marines and Chaos Space Marines had each other as preferred enemies and their bonuses effectively canceled each other out, IG got penalties against Chaos because they feared Chaos. Necron i think were unfavoured enemies to Chaos so Chaos suffered penalties when fighting Necrons. Then there's the original lore where closing the eye of terror was one of the 2 major goals of the Necron, potentially something to do with either hating "empyrean gods" inherently because they also got duped by so called gods or cutting off the competition so the C'Tan could feast on other souls besides themselves.
The Necron's polar opposite is actually the dark eldar, one exploits pleasures of life and the other is devoid of life
Ct’an seem to feed on the physical life force of beings while warp gots feed on the psychic force.
"Nothing can withstand the tide of chaos forever" Yup, it's heresy.
LAUNCH A CRUSADE
servitor: *INITIATING HEADBUTT EXTERMINATUS BUTTON PROTOCOL*
Throw him out of a window again.
he never learns...
Well, that's how Humanity wins, there'll be nothing left to withstand or be corrupted by Chaos when this war is over.
Kaldo draigo would like a word with you
Lucius' unique ability is phrased interestingly... but Guilliman was cursed to "never take satisfaction in his victories." Calling it now!
This new fear of Chaos Flayers is why i now will forever carry a plasma cannon or 3
Forge Master Arx have you tried being dead ? Ferrus and I never have to deal with this shit .
Sanginius on vacation Does having all but 5% of your original flesh remaining count as dead?
not really
@@karlthetechpriest2905 According to Dark Mechanicum.... no.
Bro I'm a walking plasma nuke, if I see that shit I'm taking all those fuckers with me
great so there are gothic terminators now-_-
Yao Wang As a descendant of the actual Goths (Visigoths), I would be proud of them.
They are called tactical dreadnoughts... hahahahaha, jk, but even the emps said something like that in TTS.
Jon De Oliveira
Thank your ancestors for destroying Rome.
@@Keckegenkai Rome destroyed itself long before the goths did it. Also the visigoths did not take part in the sacking of Rome.
I find it hard to process that necrons can be tainted by the warp since they were made by the C'tan to be the ultimate bane of psykers and the warp like them so i dont think that they can be tainted by the warp because then the old ones would have crushed them right?
@meaturama u need help bitch
Also the can't have psykers soooooo?
@WASDLeftClick Wait a second, didn't the Old Ones create the Krorks and not the Eldar to fight the Necrontyr?
From what I can remember the Necrontyr were jealous of the Old Ones power and the galaxy spanning empire the Eldar had. Years later they found sun eating clouds and put them into large bodies which then turned into the C'tan. Necrontyr were then fucked over by the C'tan and turned to Necrons, long story short the Necrontyr and C'tan were then fucked by both Necrons, Eldar with Wraithbone and the Krorks.
Necrons then decided to just sleep cause it was such a fucking disaster, Krorks are still being Krorks which meant that they killed each other to see who the biggest and baddest git is and the Eldar fucked a lot
@@BLOrtega Sounds about right except the "fucked a lot" part is a gross understatement.
Chaos corruption of a thinking being is different than a thing being pervaded with the power of Chaos.
If a Necron can make free choices, is culpable, and does not simply carry out deterministic commands, then it can be corrupted.
This is why the curse of Slaanesh on Lucius requires that the agent who kills Lucius takes part in the sin/evil of pleasure in the kill and the vanity of vanquishing a champion of Slaanesh/Chaos.
An object may be imbued with Chaotic influence or power, but if it is cut off from the Warp, then one can find out what the nature of the possession/infestation/etc. actually is.
This is where GW gets a little squishy with their understanding of the long history and logic of the struggle between good and evil goes. Possession is not the same thing as infestation. The questions that we have to ask ourselves while reading the books can have the effect of stretching our contemplation of that struggle without GW weighing too heavily in on the issue.
Great question for a 40K theories video, thanks again!
I have to say that Lucius Taking over a necron's body was the result of very poor writting and the refusal of Games Workshop to accept that Lucius was gone forever, they can not accept that one of their toys is dead you see...
He was once ressurected by slaanesh personaly though once he was killed by one who did not like it.
Lucius overall is poor writing. The concept is cool but its terribly handled
"Shape-shifting Necron duelist..." WHAT THE FUCK?! That's some anime shit right there, and i dig it.
"Nothing can truly withstand the tide of chass forever." Tyranids be like "Hold my beer."
god !!! i love the necrons... and this channel !!!
Don’t forget about chaos
reading more and more into necrons has REALLY wanted me to make Necrons a bigger presence in my Deathwatch campaign. so many ideas and possibilities.
You overlooked that machines have their own from of souls. The Machine Spirit :) That is all, great vid! Love your theories!
Here's an idea: Have you considered doing a video on ways one could theoretically kill Lucius permanently? I've come up with a lot of ways myself but pretty much all of them have some form of loophole Slaanesh could use to bring her favorite boy-toy back. Trick him into killing *himself,* and you'd still get turned into him because it was your idea in the first place, for example. Only thing I can think of that MIGHT work is for someone to kill him then immediately jump into an incinerator or something. *And even THAT might not do the trick...*
So spooky space skeleton daemonic robot?
🎶Sending shivers down your spine🎶
Isn't that what the Emperor already is?
As of Dark Millenium
@@essexclass8168 ....you say the Emperor is like a Necron?
@@deadskrillaskrit2078 no, a spooky space skeleton daemonic robot
5:05 You must construct addditional pylons!!! Sorry, coudln't resist...
With Vashtorr gaining more power (and almost becoming a Chaos God)
I think it would possible he will try to capture some Nekrons and use them in his Experiments
Thus creating a Chaos Necrons/a Necron-Demon
11:35 my theory that the Phasing Sword either:
1) Deliberately became Lucius for purpose only he knows - Lucius the Eternally Metal?
2) Was denied access to null field matrix by a higher authority of the Necron hierarchy
3) Slaanesh resurrected Lucius the normal way, from the Warp, and the Necron's fate was made up
4) Occurs in an alternate universe where Necrons have souls and no null field matrix technology
5) Phasing Sword had negotiated with the C'tan to keep his soul
Phasing Sword could've used a null field matrix to wipe away the Lucius, as if being a Necron wasn't enough.
In the War in Heaven, the Old Ones used the power of the warp against the Necron, thus the psychic component of many of their engineered races. The Necron, in turn, developed very sophisticated defenses against the warp even before transferring into their metal bodies. While it might be possible for Necron to fall to Chaos, it would be rare - and probably seen as both the ultimate failure and ultimate abomination by other Necron.
I think every non-chaos being sees any of those who fall to chaos as an abomination and failure.
We should lead the Necrons into the Eye of Terror and the Warp and let them sort it out.
Dude your videos keep getting better and better
Okay this is creepy as I was thinking a few hours ago "What happened to Chaos Orks, they still around?" and now I get this video lol
I'll be doing a video on that at some point, don't worry.
Umm more chaos orks are born all a time. Some are psykers who cherish dark gods to essentially prevent them from going caboom with out proper fight and some are just normal orcs who decided that they need more power than what WHAAAAAAGGG!!!!!! energy can provide. Most chaos orks just get sent to fight for dark powers where seen fit. Others like Tuska, the "Daemon-Killa" invaded eye or terror and impressed Khorne so much that Tuska and his warband rises every morning and repeats the fight eternally.
I remember that issue of White Dwarf with the Chaos Orks, good times. And Ork Genestealer Cults as well of course!
Of course, that issue also pointed out that they were super-rare and other Orks considered them outcasts.
Ork genestealer never would exist.
To calm.
* Smack him*
I mean, there are flayed ones that worship the chaos titan death saber, thats the closest we will get to chaos necrons.
Wait. If a Necron of any kind can feel, and feelings and emotions are connected to the soul... does that mean that necrons still have souls?
That's a topic for another time ;)
40K Theories thanks for replying.
sunbabybull I wouldn't say they have souls but I would say try still have the residue of souls. Maybe not very tasty for a Daemon but perhaps enough to manipulate a Cron even if only fleetingly.
40K Theories pls do it
They have very weak souls
The necron converted to chaos... Can you imagine How much of a nightmare that would be, On the battlefield?
I've thought about this question, and I always found Malice to be the most likely patron for any chaos necron. Not to say it's likely to begin with, but from what I understand the necron intensely hate the warp and everything related to it, so if any it'd be the one that actively hunts the others.
Could you imagine how badass Khorrinid Necrons Flayers would be?
I am a Necronfan. I can accept that maybe, with a glimmer of a Chance, Necrons could be corrupted by Chaos. BUT i will never accept the Lucius-Arguement. He is just bad written with the saddest excuse of a plot-armour.
Yeah, that part piss me of to this day.
What do you think if Vashtorr captured some Necrons and experimented on them?
I like the idea of a Necron dynasty making a deal with tzeench demons to make the necrons powerfuler.
Got a question. Is there any canon evidence of how the Tyranids/the Hive Mind are effected by blanks and what happens if they consume and absorb the pariah gene?
If anything regarding the Hivemind and Tyranids is still canon then Tyranid would actively avoid pariahs, and should a planet with one or on it fall and be consumed by the hive fleet then they'd just simply ignore them or their corpses due to simply not 'existing' to the hivemind and scaring away all feral unconnected tyranids.
Ripper would just give wide berth to them while nom-noming rest of the planets biomass.
According to Commissar Cain, HERO OF THE IMPERIUM, Tyranids physically recoiled from his blank aide Jeugen, and showed signs of severe confusion due to the disruption to the Hive Mind. Results varied - sometimes they'd flee, other times they'd react violently. Reverting to their base instincts was common.
James Maki The Ciaphas Cain novels have a few scenes where a Blank disrupts the Tyranid psychic link. Usually, the outcome is that the affected 'Nids get confused as their brain switches from remote control to local, as it were. That gives the Commissar enough time to either get away, or kill them while they're still disoriented.
James Maki read the ciaphus Cain novels Jürgen is a blank and regularly disrupts synapse creatures and brood telepathy amongst both nids and stealer cultists. He's pretty awesome for it actually. It's the main reason that Cain keeps him around. It usually manifests as distraction in the creatures that get too close, as if they have just walked into a pungent odour. This moment of confusion has saved Cain hundreds of times as it's given him not only a moment to capitalise on but also allows him a bit of safety from psychic attacks... In those books though it is a area based effect, the closer Jürgen is to Cain or the assailant the safer he is and the more confused the foe. Think in the earlier books it helps him against a slaanesh Daemon if I'm not mistaken. In one of the word bearers books there is also an explanation of Blackstone effecting some word bearers... They simply get cut off from the warp and the possessed member of the group looses contact with his body sharing warp entity...
Is the pariah gene still canon because necron pariahs got removed so I thought they just removed the whole thing.
So, we had Soulless Ancient Space Terminators before...
Now we have Warp Corrupted and Possessed, Insane Soulless Ancient Space Terminators.
... Yeah, i think it's time to fire a few volleys of cyclonic torpedos... Actually, just fire everything we've got, i don't want to deal with this shit today... Or ever for that matter. :|
With regenerative bodies
Just order a exterminatus
I can't help but think that Khorne in particular would take an interest in the flayed ones, and that he would take a sick delight in these creatures causing so much chaos (lol) and bloodshed but never being able to gain any satisfaction
Another tab with backing music went onto Enya's greatest hits by autoplay whilst I was starting to watch this. Do recommend 100%
I love Malice!
“We shall deny Nurgle their flesh to fester and rot.
We shall deny Khorne their blood and skulls.
We shall deny Tzeentch their destinies and fates.
We shall deny Slaanesh their pleasure and pain.
Death to the Dark Gods!
For the Renegade God!
Let the galaxy burn!”
Malice/Malal is always watching !
Imagine corrupting a necron though, the only thing in that shell is nihilism, contempt, and an unquenchable desire to go back to sleep for "5 minutes"
11:21
I feel like Shooting the person that wrote that atrocity towards the Necron race.
Necron does not serve, NECRONS RULES!
Zcee Nook that Necron only needed to sit in a null field matrix until Lucius lost his hold.
Shoot CS Goto if you want.
In most lore, nurgle is regarded as being the third of the chaos gods to be born, during the plagues the human race suffered through the early days of civilisation. However from what we know of the Necrontyr in their early days before they met the old ones and c'tan, they were a sickly and short lived race, their entire civilisations constructed around death and decay, and most of their races scientific output fruitlessly spent on trying to extend their lives.
It is hence possible to see in the early necrontyr as an embodiment of many of the traits and ideals of Nurgle seen in the 41st millenium. So it seems very likely that Nurgle existed at this time in at least a primordial state, if not yet a full fledged god.
The old ones disdain for the necrontyr was perhaps due only to their ignorance of the warp, the race was obsessed with trying to cure their afflictions solely in the physical world, blind to their link to the warp. Perhaps the old ones saw them as a failure who would never discover the warp and hence succumb to it and die out, or perhaps they believed they needed to be given the time to discover and master it on their own.
It is also likely that the c'tan knew of the warp, and its link to the necrontyrs illness, but knew that they had to keep them completely ignorant of this in order to keep them as their slaves and puppets, hence they gave them blackstone not initially as a weapon against the old ones, but as shackles to keep them from reaching their true potential as psykers.
if they can corrupt ai than then why not necrons?
i thought that was microsoft not google,and that shit scares the hell out of me. JUDGEMENT DAY
@plays withdice Did you hear about the real life Church based on AI? I'm slowly getting Adeptus Mechanicus feels right there... :3
Aren't machine spirits AI
@@rhorynotmylastname7781 No, there is a vast and significant difference between an Abominable Intelligence and a Machine Spirit. Namely, that of a soul. (Remember in 40k AI stands for Abominable Intelligence, not Artificial Intelligence. And the distinction between the two is whether the machine has a soul or not.)
Kitt Marmion Machine Spirit is AI
Looking forward to seeing this bid mate, I think that the gods influence on the nekkies is nicely unexplored
Also, never get tired of hearing that low, husky voice of Ms Stephanie Swan Quills? :P
That art for the Sister of Silence is fucking awesome!
But this is the chief librarian of the Ultrasmurfs we're talking about here, he can link his mind to the tyranid hive mind and not only avoid becoming a gibbering vegetable but gain actual insight into some small sliver of its plans. Because he is reinforced and protected by that truest and most magnificent of materials in the 40k world... Plot armour! XD
Technically, there is a force greater than even plot armor ... the Emperor of Mankind (the ultimate Deus Ex solution, if I've even seen one)? ;P
There is an official licenses warhammer 40k book detailing a "green glowing always changing liquid metal demon" he was on a space hulk that previously fought in a campaign against the necrons with many trophys taken which were gone missing .. its been years .. i cannot recall which book it was but it was official!
"Chaos corrupts man and machine alike"
-Chaos Predator,DoW 2
I don't think we have any real evidence that they can be corrupted. Even the few passages we do have are too vague to definitively prove that. The only real point of contagion is Lucius and I firmly believe that it was written intentionally to show just how awesome he is by an author who might not have had the firmest grasp on this point. Keep in mind just how many different authors write for GW, most of the time there will be discrepancies.
Also, bear in mind that only the higher ranking Necrons can even feel emotions (debatable if they actually feel or just remember the concept - the debate whether the Necrons that have individuality left are just programmed to be like that or actually have a "ghost"). And since Chaos is based in and draws from sentient emotions they would have a really hard time infecting a mind that has non, even if he's not a Blank or a Pariah.
I'll bet the chaos gods would rather the Necrons keep a nappin'.
*Chaos god is like babies*
The mention of the C'tan in this raises a question for me now: what would happen if a fully formed/reformed C'tan fell to Chaos?
It would die instantly. If a C'tan is exposed to the warp it just dies
I thought that the Necrons' connection to the C'Tan made the Warp and the powers of Chaos anathema to them?
it did and this is a case of contradictory lore. there are several sources and reasons that they are the bane of chaos but as anyone can write a book and many of the people who approve books do not know the lore we end up in situations like this. its the same reason we have books where a normal chaos space marine killing a Custode and a backflipping Terminator!
Necrons corrupted by Tzeetch would be my dream, my 2 best factions together.
Pretth sure the Necrons would hate Tzeentch, being the god of manipulation, revolution, and change. Mostly for the manipulation part. Old wounds from old Star Gods.
They're older than Slaanesh. | 5:18 - An Alpha Legion book? | 6:55 - (monotone) All hail the Ultrasmurfs. | 7:16 - Castigator, the STC AI Titan that had a cannon that shot daemons is a named example. | 8:04 #blamelorgar
Necrons: Goes to multiple planets to kill everything just to cause anarchy.
Chaos: Goes to multiple planets to kill everything just to cause anarchy.
If you ask me Necrons can be corrupted by chaos, even if only in case of their bodies however their souls will forever be not tainted by chaos because they got no soul as it was consumed by C'Tans. Now let us start thinking more about if their robotic mind is free of corruption or not? After all Chaos Scrap Code can be used against machine spirit so can it also be used against mind of the necrons? Also very interesting fact here during The Carnac Campaign Orikan the Diviner can obstruct somehow Eldar Seers divination (they look upon skeins of fate to see best possible futures ahead) this can somehow hint us that necrons can see and interfere with the warp through some means and have the presence in the warp thus making them vulnerable to taint of chaos, but another question is can all necrons be seen in the warp or only those who retained their minds after biotransfer? After all immaterium is being made out of raw emotion given physical form so if necrons in command think and feel it means they are also making impact in the warp itself am I right ? So if they make impact on the warp they also are vulnerable to corruption or so I think.
No Scrapcode would be virtually worthless. The Necrons architecture is too alien, and if it was viable the Word Bearers would have used it against them.
what is meant by "soul" in 40k. is it like, free will? the ability to experience emotions?
also, one could argue all those machines you mentioned have some kind of basic ai, or machine spirit, and so can have that soul corrupted.
Yes, can we please talk more about the chaos genestealer cults, and how the heck THAT'S supposed to make any semblance of sense? I'm assuming they're like the Custodians being nudists, where it was something from the older editions that they never TECHNICALLY retconned away despite, you know, the whole Tyrannid thing.
Chaos Pariahs. Just saying!
Necron Pariahs should come back, full stop.
I don't understand why GW scrapped them.
they were too badass thats why
It would be incredible to see the taint of chaos be able to affect them, and you'd be able to field blackstone-amplified chaos gauss weaponry.
On second thought, that sounds pretty destructive.
it sounds too op
40K Theories I still don’t understand how a deaman could possess a blank and still have that blank BE a blank. The moment all the anti warp shinanigans begins the deamon would be destroyed or repelled no matter how powerful it is. It’s like oil and water, it doesn’t matter if it’s extra virgin or not, the two just don’t mix.
I would assume that the only way for chaos necrons to exist would either be on a small scale due to warp smiths of traitor legions working on them similarly to defilers as a status symbol (a necron with a daemon shoved into it would probably be immensely powerful given necrodermis being what it is)
Secondly maybe it could occur from a tomb world being sucked into the warp?
I still like the idea of the first one, chaos marines who go necron hunting to build a pet killing machine, a uber necron lord bound to the will of its owner, with the combined powers giving it the destructive power of a warhound scout titan.
That lucius and necron thing is just the plot armor of lucius.
A. Wolfeinstein its fucking stupid. Just allow the character to die and someone else take the mantle
Question, what happens if a swarm of scarabs killed Lucius? Or a swarm of Tyranid rippers? Sure a tyranid may be able to feel something that could be interpreted as satisfaction, but that wouldn't be the same as pride. I suppose if it was the Swarmlord, perhaps, but then what happens if the beast in question is dissolved and reconsumed by the Hive Fleet?
Depends on the intention of the Chaos personality. If it was to be dissolved and its energy dispersed, it would like to keep its own Daemonic awareness and personality intact and seek to distance itself from its impending doom. HOWEVER, if it wants to infect the entire Hive Fleet, it would then allow itself to infect the swarm through being dissolved, either to infect the bio forge machinery which would then create Chaos infected units, or by being a virus within the 'nid ecosystem. So in short, being a Trojan horse. That scenario can only play out depending on the nature of Chaos energy and channeling of warp entities within the Tyranid fleet and psychic control of its units. The big problem is that there is no "souls" for the Daemons to feed on (and thereby to keep their forms in the physical plane), even though organic beings are the best places to gain a foothold within. I could however, see the Dark Mechanicum or some form of obscure Chaos ritual that might "twist" organic matter into something far more deadlier, especially of the Nurgle or Slaanesh variant.
Lucius is a giant Mary-Sue, they'll never show him being killed by anything less than a character worthy of a name to feel pride thus resurrect him.
But my guess is one of two things.
A: Lucius avoids anything that truly won't give a damn whether he killed him. or
B: Slaanesh would just resurrect him in some dumb cultists body.
I can forsee the destroyer cults becoming a threat as large as chaos. In thought of it, their methodology reminds me of Malice.
I play Necrons and was starting of making a Chaos army, this would save me a lot of time and money.
Just model them off the old Chaos Androids from Space Crusade ;)
What about the psychic potential of necrons? In the game dark crusade and soulstorm you can see a unit called pariah.
Those were units originally available in the 3rd/4th edition of the game but were dropped from 5th edition onwards
40K Theories
Thx for your answer. Good to know.
A Nurgle Necron would be a freaky dude.
I'm working on an army now. Vashtorr has some new daemon machines to unleash upon the galaxy.
Lol just earlier today I was wondering whether Chaos Necrons exist. RUclips somehow read my mind and recommended this video.
I love when people use terms like "logically" when talking about 40K.
Nothing becomes chaos (insert "thing" here). Once something falls to chaos it is simply that ...Chaos regardless of its specifications.
I think up till the 4th ed codex they definitely were immune, but with the 5th+ codex realisation of them onwards, that's all changed, and can't argue there. I think there is another intrinsic thing about human ships, vehicles and stcs; machine spirits and incidental geometries have some kind of impact on the likelihood of possession. Perhaps necron structures are built to geometries that avoid the shapes that summon things, or lack machine spirits/its only as corruptible as any other necron. The very definition of corruption is also debatable. Is just obvious warp deterioration of something enough, or does it have to turn the necrontyr to the worship snd service of chaos powers
How can Necrons still move without soles?
Edit: nvm, forgot destroyers were a thing.
I’m not sure there is an implication of necrons being corrupted in the infected tombworld. Let’s look at another story, In LoTR did the dwarves help the balrog take over Moria? He certainly corrupted one of the home realms of the race. I know the verbiage you used was exact, but I think that boils down to nit picking (or starring at the 3D picture too long lol)
I always understood that necrons had to be susceptible to chaos or in the very least warp energy. The reason being that the Old Ones having pushed for more psychic power when developing the Eldar and to a lesser extent, the Krorks. Why do so unless it was proving effective. And if something can be affected by psykic lightning or something then that would necessitate a acceptability to chaos as well.
When it comes to the 3 great galactic threats, while overly simplistic, I treat them as in a broadly rock paper scissors exchange. Chaos can trump Necrons because of that implied weakness. Necrons trump Tyranids due to their weapons being especially devastating to organic matter and while you have posited that Tyranids can consume Necrons I would still assume they would have difficulty doing so and they would likely have a net loss in biomass by the end of any engagement. Lastly the Tyranids trump Chaos due to the shadow in the Warp. While individual Tyranids, as you said in this video, can fall to chaos I would presume it would be isolated genestealers and the like, who lack the full protection of the shadow in the Warp.
While reductionist and there are exceptions I believe this broadly holds up in the grand scheme of things
11:40 this implies that there is, be it ever so vestigial, something of a soul left in the Necrons.
I thought Blanks were made by Necrons. Or at least they had a hand in Blanks becoming more common.
Chaos + Necrons = Maximum Edge.
So... should I be expecting a codex or models for new chaos andriods then remliez?
I wish
NecroNids coming soon ........ called it !
Me: *sees title*
Also me: *queries in Tau Pidgin*
I would love to see a full Theory video dedicated to Lucius and if he can ever be truly killed with his “blessing”. Originally I would think, of all races, the Necron or Tau would have the best chance of killing him for good, as they posses the most “emotionless” weapons to turn on him, such as drones or baseline Warriors.
But then I read the short story Lucius: Pride and Fall. In it, Lucius is killed by, Of all things, a landmine. End of story, right? Not like a landmine can take pride in the kill.
Except he ends up possessing, instead, over the course of days, the arms factorum worker who assembled that particular landmine, as he had taken a measure of pride in his work. Even sectors away, Lucius took control and proceeeded to slaughter his family and fellow citizens.
So even if a emotionless vessel kills him, as long as ANYONE involved in creating it or had a hand in his death takes pride in it, be it in ending him or just in the lethality of their device, he can steal their bodies and add them to his armor.
Lucius is ridiculous. And the most ridicuous thing about him is that he's shit. He constantly dies, he constantly gets owned by everything and everyone. His armour is just a huge picture of all the people that were much better than him, thrashed him and killed him.
The souls trapped in his amour shouldn't aren't screaming, they're laughing at him. Lucius the Eternal (joke).
But...what if its the C'tan that does him in? IIRC, they are not a soul bearing species and I'm pretty sure any remnant of pride the ancient Necrontyr had in their hand with making the soul eating pokemon is about as dead as Olanius Pious. Now that I think about it, it would be fun to read about a Transcendant C'tan going to town on him and then having his soul just....kinda hang out. Or trapped inside a Tesseract Vault when he cheeses and comes back. I wonder if it would be possible...
I think that the flayer virus may be chaotic in nature.
Here's what I think, the Necrons aren't impervious to chaos but instead are incapable of strengthening the warp due to the lack of souls. As a result even if the forces of chaos conquered the Necrons they wouldn't be able to strengthen the warps power but instead act as meat (or rather metal) shields for the chaos gods
i have a question about the necrons, about a unit from them in general: the Pariah!
the pariahs were a unit within the first necron codex and as their name suggest, they were ment to counter psychers. the most intruiging thing about them was their design: they look very different than the other necrons, even human-like. just google them and look at the pictures and you will see what i mean.
so now to my question: what happened to the necron Pariahs? were they written out of the lore, or ist there an explanation what are they and what has happened to them?
and something else i suddenly realised: i never saw female necron model. which leads me to following question: did the necrontyr reproduse a-sexualy?
No, female Necrons still exist. In fact there's 2 in 'Devourer'
ok, and do they look different to males, like like we humans or eldar, or do they look so similar to males that there is no differens?
well, I would assume there is no difference from male or female necrons as they are actual metal-skeletons and there are no real differences for skeletons (well, you may convert some necron-warriors with a wider pelvis ;) )...I think however it might be possible to show the gender with lords and such in regards of all the decoration and details, but then again I'm not sure how to make it look really feminine. Maybe something looking like a skirt (made out of hundreds of cables) or a typical-shaped upper-armor or a mask (like Khalida from the Khemri [WHFB]).
i remember them in dark crusade, they were a combination of necron metal and human flesh
Chaos xenos ? As if we needed more problems......good luck Roboute!- the angel goes back to his grave -
Forgot to mention those pissed of automaton with Daemons inside them
wait a second, i know that voice! youre that crazy dinosaur techquisitor! tell the man emperor to hurry up with his next voxcast :P
The difference between Necrons and Pariahs is like the difference between 0 and -1.
I want to hear more about the Chaotic Tau
I honestly think that why ai always turns hostile to organic life is due to the c'tan or necrons. Either some of the necrons souls possessing the robots when they gain sentience, or through a curse or something from the c'tan
So is Saitama the only person capable of permanently killing Lucious?
The Old Ones’ chief weapon against the Necrons was the Warp, so it must have been effective, even back then.
Considering how terrible the C'tan are and how awful being soulless must be, would it be 'falling' or an upward motion?
I think Necrons should get a few more books, one of the more interesting races in the galaxy
An interesting idea would be, could the necrons bind daemons witin the metal that they trapped teh C'tan in. Which would allow them to survive outside of the warp, and also could this be done for a chaos god, or anti chaos god
What's the music at the opening of the video ?
I think that slanessh curse is just dumb, like what if slanessh killed lucious? does that mean lucious would possess a chaos god?
My cat is made out of necrodermis and he hasn't been corrupted by chaos yet. I'll keep an eye on him and let you know.