🙉 THIS really needs to CHANGE to make Gran Turismo BETTER!!.. || Gran Turismo 7
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- Опубликовано: 17 июн 2024
- This week it's very 50/50 in terms of enjoyment of daily races... but I can't help feel that if more thought had gone into Daily Race B at least that could have increased the enjoyment! Lets look at some of the issues!
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A few comments have mentioned the same thing so let me answer all in one;
I start at the back in these races to state/show the positions that people start in. UNLESS you are top split (I am so if I'd have set a time I'd have been near the front) you have no idea where you will start in a lobby (I do talk about that in the video). If you are P1 in one race and then P16 in the next on the same practice time you had it's not really fair on you is it? So the race you start in pole you can have a fantastic race. The race you start in P16 you have a rubbish race so wastes your time. You could even IMPROVE your time and still start P16!
IF there was a qualy session before the race starts I'd agree, however there isn't so in a large portion of cases (99%+) of sport mode players are starting in a random grid location.
I would honestly have standing start only, and more slots for races like every 10 mins I cannot believe Sony doesn’t have servers strong enough
My ideal daily races formaula would be:
Race A: The fun run, casual sprint every 15 minutes.
Race B: The staple daily race, every 20 minutes. Mediums or softs only, minimum of 10 minute race duration.
Race C: A strategy race twice an hour.
Race D: The endurance race.
I believe the quick 1 player test you did for the rolling starts has the start of the race happen just before you, the player crosses the line. If you look at the mini map you should see that the lead cars are practically at t1 when the race begins which is obviously way past the start line
That part☝🏾
Tidge, what's worse is when you get some kind of holdup, where everyone from p12 at least don't start at the same time and you end up being at least eight seconds behind, Great Stuff.
Here's a revolutionary idea *cough*: On the World Map, give every race TWO options: 1. Race AI, 2. Race Online.
Quick tip: If you find you need do any more testing on rolling start distances and they continue to not fix the bug, that slider is *not* bugged when your units are set to metric, it's only bugged when set to imperial.
But the slider is set to metres. That's metric in itself
@@freedom_born The slider here is always displayed in metres regardless of whether the unit setting is set to imperial or metric. But it only *works* when the setting is in metric.
Maybe that's the bug actually, that it's meant to show in feet or yards but doesn't when you set it to imperial.
@@rickyareskog1417
Cool brainstorming there man.
You came up with two possible error/solutions.
Nice one... and thanks for the clarification. It makes sense
That's amazing I'll give that a try and also feed that back to PD as well.
The fact that bug exists nearly 2 years on shows PD don't give a shit about the game. They've got our money and that's all they care about. They've already moved onto developing their next cash grab which knowing them will be out in 8 years time which makes their lack of interest in 7 even more frustrating
Sounds about right. Sound like rock star all over. Thanks for your money. Now @@@@ o@@.
If that were the case, we wouldn’t be getting any new cars patched in.
Hard tires in short races are rubbish! No real life race driver goes to a track and says, "yeah, let's go less than 1o laps and let's use hard tires" 🤪😤😡🤬
Agreed with your points. This weeks selection of dailies is so poor, I don't see myself trying any of them, unfortunately. Even my usual selection of live RUclips racers aren't streaming to watch. Boring week...
wow. god forbid we get a bad week. people might start turning into zombies
Great vid Tidge. Stareting on a turn is a problem that was always existed in GT and I don't think they'll ever fix it!
I've always wanted to see my quali time ranked in my own DR level. Like D, C, B, A separated. Seeing my quali time and 10,203 doesn't tell me much about where I would start in my D lobby.
Too many G70s, I won my race in C class with the Alfa155! Lots of folks seem to sleep on that car, but it’s a great car for tracks like Seca and some of the smaller tracks. It also works great at Grand Valley.
That’s my favorite car, but the only problem on this course is that it’s so lightweight any little bump since you flying into the sand
@@B4UCE you have to be smooth with it. Try not to hit the bumps too hard. Practice a bit with the Alfa more, it’s a bit your marks type of car where any lasp will screw you over
I'm so glad someone else mentioned the force feedback bug. Thought it was just me
Instead of adding cars that no one uses PD should be concentrating on fixing the starting grids, plus adding weather and night races to each track, Forza has again been slightly improved with the addition of endurance races which will rotate on a weekly basis with the GT and touring cars along side 1 other formula plus a single model car and a class of car, the game still has a long way to go though, radar, driving standards, penalties amongst other things too.
I have loved playing GT7 since it came out but you are soooooo correct. GT7 needs to change in some very key ways like race starts and such - but i think it lacks most when it comes to daily races / activity options. 2 real races /week and a couple TT's /fortnight is just not enough to keep me engaged for more than a race or two a day before i jump onto other race sims to pass time. I just built a top tier PC but i still prefer GT7 for now as its what I'm comfortable with. Another daily race every week would save this game. For me at least.
For sure the race options also need to change. Would be absolutely brilliant if they changed more frequently, for me even the change every day was good!
Il always leave room for you 😅👍🏻
In some of the lobbies I was in today. During the rolling start some cars didn't move. In one of them races only 4 of us did the whole rolling start, the rest moved very very slowly from where they initially started rolling. They finished around 30 seconds behind.
That's actually frustrating when that happens, another reason for a grid start I think!
Oh Tidge what about the penalty system 😂 lol jk great video mate!
😂😂😂
Let's go 😂 I want that SLS please as beat the meta
Completely agree regarding the race length, 7 laps (or 10 mins) would be ideal. I read somewhere that the short race durations for Daily B were to account for PS4 load times between races, but I have no idea whether that is correct or just speculation.
PS4 with a HDD did not take so long, total speculation straight from some numpty's behind.
Sounds like rubbish. I play on ps4 and it takes a few seconds.
I thought PS5 players couldn’t play with PS4 players?
@GoatedAtNFS can in lobbys but not in daily races.
@@johnm3907
Lol what?!
Yes, you do play cross gen in Daily's.
It's a cross gen game bro!
I wouldn't have let it go so easily
If that was 20 metres, then PD are using far more because the race started and you were crossing the line, on the online race the race started before you got to last turn so they must have it about 35-40 metres
It's 2 different things as the starting point is different (Which they can customise)
How you didn't add the overtalke you did on Lewis yesterday on T1, I was impressed from behind lol :)
That's a different video 😜
Ah Tidge, what about the penalty system??
(I'd score SR out of 100k like DR is, with contact points like iRacing to make it harder to build and maintain)
If it's a short track like this it should be like 7or 10 laps
Sport mode desperately needs a huge shake up. I only watch a handful of GT7 content creators and most of them seem to be drastically slowing down on GT7 content. My activity on the game has come to a complete halt too. The most frustrating thing is that all the ingredients are there to make great daily races, but PD just keep serving up bland garbage.
That wheel bug needs sorting, usually catches me exiting the pits🤦😂
I hate that when you exit the pits and it's just there!
Tidg... the race starts on the start line and your last. Daily race 1st place will start on the start line. There not the same. They do need to be closer though
I understand, was more to demonstrate that the starting place can be moved (e.g. 1st place on the offline race could start further up)
I get what you’re saying. Put up a poll then send it. It’s all about the players. The game needs to be sorted
They just need to balance the cars a little more because once the sheep find out what car the pros used thats it, lobby is flooded with that one car.
Bro buy a Lamborghini SV and dump everything into it put the wide body all that dude it is sick The sound their vicious acceleration I love it
Id love to see a 155 in BTM... My fav car!
You mean the Alfa 155?
@NardoDetroit don't think there is any other 155 in the game..
@@Paul_Ehlers the 155 is PERFECT for Seca and other of the smaller tracks! I use it the most and have won a lot of races in it! Lots of people keep sleeping on that car, but when driven right, you can dominate the field at certain tracks
@@TheDocNardo it is honestly my favorite car in the game. That sounds and acceleration is just insane. And 4wd helps..
@@Paul_Ehlers yep sure does! It’s weakness is it’s top end. The maximum track you can race it at is Grand Valley, if you nail sector 1 and 2, then you can compensate for Sector 3 with the long front stretch.
Maybe Swift as BTM? 😈
Hi, Martin!
My 2 cents about start. When you do a race with AI notice that when the race starts the first place is already past the start/finish line. So in lobbies you cannot do this because a race should start when the first place crosses the line. I think that's why they have to move a pack back.
Still, it doesn't justify current situation :) Just give us a standing start and a good penalty system!
That's true, but if they can classify it properly offline they should be able to do it online, well I'd like to think so at least haha. They've managed to sort out the fastest lap which is a similar situation on lap 1 👀
Daily race B should be 6/7/8laps
You can't achieve much from the back.
I never enter daily race B these days
hahah What about the penalty system?!"!?1!? ;)
Why complaint about that when it is clearly a challenge to start at the top of the grid. I think that gives pilots the push to get a good time lap. Dont you think?
They either shorten the grid and amount of players... or make it grid start.
That's prob the only solution
I agree it lets you push but I posted an example in the pinned comment.
You get 1 time and start P1.
You IMPROVE your time now start P16.
So you put the effort in to improve your time and now join a race which you start last and you can't win. You also need 1 or even 2 laps to catch up to even have a race. That's the critical part.
Where's that flag?
Being a D rated driver, I find that most of the competitors are kind of dirty drivers. I honestly try to race to where I'm considerate and leave space for the other drivers, but it seems while doing so, I just fall further and further back. Kind of frustrating to be honest.
Nice one Tidge, 👏, everything you mentioned needs addressing, 😊.
Like deployed 👍
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to be honest it seems GT7 dont care anymore everything from the types of races including everything you said
People generally get better at their jobs but are human and can make mistakes. PD definitely dropped the ball this week and dropped it in front of the goals.
Possibly a new “diversity” hire that has no idea lol 😂
Tidge… PD just don’t care anymore. The dailies are stale, repetitive and getting rather boring. Penalties are broken, race starts are broken, BoP is broken. And where are the new tracks… what about all the tracks that we used to have? I could go on, but I’m sure you get the idea.
DR broken
We have a disadvantage anyway because the fastest car always starts on pole
So because you are slow you have a disadvantage? I don't think a lack of talent counts as a disadvantage.
@@Stroker-Z28 Err, I think you'll find it does
That's a skill issue. Not a PD issue.
You try to improve your quali times, just like Marty said. You can be front grid for your best time. Win the race, improve your rating, then go to the next race and your time isn't front grid anymore. Because you're matched with other drivers ranking up.
That's a skill issue, not a PD issue
"needs to change" means PD will make it worse. The rolling starts have always been terrible. Do you see how close rolling starts are IRL? ACC gets it right.
Qualify! Why complain about the game, when you aren't qualified, if you qualify high enough you gain the advantage, it's standard across the auto racing market.
Yeah but as he said, you can quali a good time (for your level), then improve your rank by winning or podium cleanly.
But then you might be put into a higher lobby next race and immediately bomb that rank improvement. Since you've already qualified as fast as you can... or else you're spending more time hotlapping than racing
Ye it's as freedom has said (Have pinned a comment to explain a bit more)
Rolling starts are ridiculous not to mention they form part of almost every single player race. It just turns into a catch up race rather than something with a bit of depth and skill. Shame on PD!
Yes offline its dreadful, I talked about that in a stream recently. Imagine some of the other fun you could have grid start, starting in a much slower car trying to hang on but instead we need to get quick cars to catch up
@@tidgney I do agree of course although I think you should have a go at 'The Human Comedy' mission which are a set of 1 hour endurance races. Car choice and pitting strategy being the focus. Reckon your skill level could turn these into decent tutorials for the masses. Great content by the way and keep up the good work, especially for us clean drivers!
This game for when it came out.. what had already existed and what fans wanted it to be... really does suck. Its no better than Forza.
ur big COMPLAINT is rolling starts???? u people are out of ur minds. THIS GAME IS AWESOME, STILL. SO the worst thing in the world I guess is that sum of the weekly challenges and updates are not to ur liking? wow, the world is ending , right?
It's a complaint for sure because a small change could lead to a much larger positive impact and rolling starts are a primary factor in both offline and online races. But I mentioned an additional issue with this weeks races and there's certainly others that need solving to that i don't discuss.
@@tidgney I don't know about al that.......maybe
thumbs down for saying Meta
What's your suggestions Stephanie?
OP? Dominant? God Tier? Honcho?