How LOTR inspired VLDL | Podcast E14

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  • Опубликовано: 23 мар 2024
  • We Were Told We Should Do A Podcast - Episode 14
    Without Lord of the Rings, Viva La Dirt League may have never been a thing. We chat about how Peter Jackson and his work in Lord of the Rings inspired all of us as teenagers, long before the three of us met. We reminisce on our favourite scenes from the films and discuss why this franchise had such a huge impact on us as young Kiwi lads.
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  • @joeschmoe9242
    @joeschmoe9242 2 месяца назад +35

    One of my top favorite scenes is when Aragorn tells Frodo, " I would have gone with you to the end, into the very fires of Mordor." Then turns around, walks out, and stands before a hoard or Urik-kia....slow motion happens...then he looks into the hoard walks forward with no doubt and without flinch, goes into battle alone. Man, Aragorn was such a great character in the movie and Viggo was fantastic.

    • @kokocaptainqc
      @kokocaptainqc 2 месяца назад +1

      a what? a hoard of Ulrik's kia? thats a load of cars basically

    • @SaltedMoose
      @SaltedMoose 2 месяца назад

      It's an amazing moment, made brilliant by Viggo.

    • @mattparsons433
      @mattparsons433 Месяц назад +2

      That whole scene was ridiculously good - the tracking sequence down the hill, Boromir sponging up 3 arrows and still fighting, Aragorn batting away the thrown dagger (which was accidentally thrown at him for real!), what a way to end the first film

  • @danielmalinen6337
    @danielmalinen6337 2 месяца назад +112

    In Finland, the current LotR 70th anniversary is celebrated with a new revised and better translation of the book. The original translation was done by an Kersti Juva during her student years in 1976 when she was still an amateur translator and the new translation by the same translator but now, after these years, as a respected and experienced professional translator.

    • @ishanjalan
      @ishanjalan 2 месяца назад

      is that a he or a she. You used both genders to describe this person!

    • @danielmalinen6337
      @danielmalinen6337 2 месяца назад +9

      @@ishanjalan "She," that "he" was probably a typo or forced correction by my phone's spelling AI. Now it's fixed and I added the missing letter s.

    • @stampsu
      @stampsu 2 месяца назад +6

      I'm Finnish too and I honestly didn't know that. The movies were a huge factor that made me love fantasy as a kid but I've yet to read the books. I was thinking about starting a while back but because I'm also a huge fan of dark fantasy I eventually re-listened The Witcher audiobooks and after that continued with The Song Of Fire And Ice saga

    • @vikinglord6323
      @vikinglord6323 2 месяца назад +2

      That's a very cool story! Incredible what an impact a single book/trilogy has had all around the world and for so many years. I just received my new, leather-bound copy of "The Atlas of Middle Earth", and it is AMAZING!!

    • @imdonewithyall
      @imdonewithyall 2 месяца назад +1

      ​@@stampsuis never too late to start! My mother is in her early 70s, never read any of the 4 books (I'm including the hobbit) until last year when I got her a set of the books for Christmas. I have read them every few years for a really long time on my phone lol. Great fun to read!

  • @joegarza7220
    @joegarza7220 2 месяца назад +10

    Ellie's first time LOTR experience should be documented. I would love to see her reactions. That could be a VLDL mini-series!

  • @davidl4312
    @davidl4312 2 месяца назад +14

    The first movie towards the end when Aragorn tells Frodo to run because the orcs finally caught them, Aragon turns and raises his sword and it covers half his face and he just walks up and starts absolutely wrecking orcs. Chills

  • @RebeccaLee_81
    @RebeccaLee_81 2 месяца назад +8

    Best scene for me is the charge of the Rohirrim in ROTK... Theoden's speech, the riders, the horns, the music, the pan of the camera to the huge cavalry... Just chefs kiss 🤌🤌

    • @mattparsons433
      @mattparsons433 Месяц назад +1

      And the orcs absolutely bricking it - you know in a movie when the general shouts “fire at will!” they are fucked

  • @DissertatingMedieval
    @DissertatingMedieval 2 месяца назад +11

    My favorite scene in the triliogy is the ride of the Rohorrim. No magic, no badass rangers, just a bunch of guys on horseback doing what they can because they promised they would.

  • @ExhaleDJ
    @ExhaleDJ 2 месяца назад +23

    Ellie not having seen LotR is simply OUTRAGEOUS!

    • @lizardmix
      @lizardmix 2 месяца назад

      That reminds me of all the videos where Elija Wood says he never read the books, I need an update on that situation. Did he ever read them? Anyone know?

    • @seekerofthemutablebalance5228
      @seekerofthemutablebalance5228 2 месяца назад

      I was briefly worried that they were dropping spoilers but realized she was not listening AT ALL😂

    • @danquaylesitsspeltpotatoe8307
      @danquaylesitsspeltpotatoe8307 Месяц назад

      Girls dont watch LOTR!

    • @yasininn76
      @yasininn76 Месяц назад

      Neither have I and I love fantasy. Maybe when the first hour of the film starts to be interesting, I will

  • @KKomalShashank
    @KKomalShashank 2 месяца назад +78

    It's New Zealand. It's kind of a given at this point. If Lord of the Rings hasn't inspired you, then something would be really wrong.

  • @ssjred-lando6649
    @ssjred-lando6649 2 месяца назад +6

    My middle school took us on a field trip to see Fellowship when it came out in theatres. I had already gone with my family to see it so I was just watching everyone else fall in love with it. Thats a good memory right there.

  • @benasay8279
    @benasay8279 2 месяца назад +36

    My favorite scene in LotR was "I may not be able to carry it... but I can carry you!" and when they lay there thinking it's over for them then the eagles come grab them

    • @AwakenedAvocado
      @AwakenedAvocado 2 месяца назад +1

      Ok so why didn't the eagles literally just come to hobbiton, pick frodo up with the ring and fly him to the fires of doom where he has to throw the ring into?
      Save all of this bs and also save probably like 4000 dwarfs , 3400 mans and 3500 elf's lives. Where were the eagles then ? They just turn up when it was convenient for them.

    • @Thurgosh_OG
      @Thurgosh_OG 2 месяца назад +6

      @@AwakenedAvocado There are 2 things to consider, with your question. 1) The journey and character building are the story, so that would be lost and therefore the books would be pointless and a very short story.
      2) Sauron had his own flying guards (the Nazgul and their Fell Beasts) which could intercept the Eagles and with Sauron close by, would be able to stop them easily. The convenient arrival of the Eagles was always seen as Manwe (the Valar), aiding the free peoples without directly using his powers (which would break the world), so had to be used sparingly.

    • @mepatton
      @mepatton 2 месяца назад +5

      @@AwakenedAvocado They're Eagles, not Ubers.

    • @Shadowman4710
      @Shadowman4710 2 месяца назад +4

      @@AwakenedAvocadoThat question might make sense if there were no such thing as Nazgul...or arrows.

    • @AwakenedAvocado
      @AwakenedAvocado 2 месяца назад

      @@Shadowman4710 simply transporting the ring on an eagle into the fires of mount doom is the best option. There could be many decoy eagles with other hobbits strapped to them and if Gandalf flies with them can provide a circle of light protection. The eagles seem to just conveniently show up as some pseudo hero role and save the day when in actual fact they could have saved the entire kingdom simply by transporting the ring to the fires of mount doom.

  • @rallyl7053
    @rallyl7053 2 месяца назад +5

    My favorite scene is Aragorn and Gimli fighting together on the bridge at Helm’s Deep.

  • @KyleFromVA
    @KyleFromVA 2 месяца назад +3

    My favorite acted scene is the funeral scene in Two Towers where Theodin cry’s over having to bury his son. The line “no parent should have to bury their child” crushes me

    • @kokocaptainqc
      @kokocaptainqc 2 месяца назад

      then dont read the books...since its not in there ^^

    • @KyleFromVA
      @KyleFromVA 2 месяца назад

      @@kokocaptainqc damn.. I’ll try and forget the scene when reading so I don’t get let down lol

  • @phoenixdzk
    @phoenixdzk 2 месяца назад +10

    Speaking of big projects in NZ, Spartacus' TV show had a ton of Kiwi actors, INCLUDING ROWAN in Spartacus Vengeance! He tried to mug Gannicus of Capua. Didn't go too well

  • @mijis_manic_manis
    @mijis_manic_manis 2 месяца назад +9

    Reading Tolkien as a child, and later playing D&D when I was a teen inspired me to write, and I turned into a total RP nerd 😂 I've got lifelong friends I met in my late teens- early 20s, and we were bonded writing epic stories with our original characters and playing RP games.
    A few of those friends urged me to check out your channel, saying that you all remind them of our friend group and the utter shenanigans we got up to 😂 I'm glad they recommended your channel, I definitely see the parallels!

  • @windcallerctk
    @windcallerctk 2 месяца назад +3

    My top one moment in the movies, and I hardly ever am able to choose a favorite (well done LotR!) is when the Treants see the floods coming and brace themselves ... The way they do it, the moment they accept that they can not run away, that they see a wall of water come at them, and STAND to whitstand it all, to protect others as well ... I was crying! And then a few Treants were taken down, and I cried even harder ... To me, the Treants are the bravest souls in the entire movie.

  • @Cuppa_Doc
    @Cuppa_Doc 2 месяца назад +25

    My mum named my middle name after Aragon, nerdom is in my bones 😂

    • @MikeB-nn4nh
      @MikeB-nn4nh 2 месяца назад

      As long as she wasn’t thinking about Aragorn at the time 👉🏻🕳️

    • @kokocaptainqc
      @kokocaptainqc 2 месяца назад

      @@MikeB-nn4nh probably

  • @MrScrofulous
    @MrScrofulous 2 месяца назад +9

    I used to read the book every year until the films came out. I saw each film on the Boxing Day debut. I went to Hobbiton last year and had the full feast experience. I'm currently wearing the shirt I bought there. I'm not really a total LOTR nerd though, or maybe I am.

    • @PalleRasmussen
      @PalleRasmussen 2 месяца назад +1

      You are not. Real Tolkien nerds hate PJ.

    • @ttcitron
      @ttcitron 2 месяца назад +1

      @@PalleRasmussenYeah, PJ and his team he actually butchered the books. If you know all the books and the background stories like "Silmarillion" and "The History of Middle-earth" you know what I mean.

    • @MrScrofulous
      @MrScrofulous 2 месяца назад

      @@ttcitron I'm not a nerd then. I think it's unfair to say he butchered the books. The Escape from the Shire was poorly done, and the meeting where the Nine walkers were formed was a bit dodgy, as I recall, it's been a while since I watched them but after that it came good and some things were unbelievably good, like the realisation of Gondor and the Balrog, also the Eye of Sauron.
      There was more good than and and overall, any Too;kein nerd who despises the films really needs to get outside and touch grass.

  • @mepatton
    @mepatton 2 месяца назад +16

    I love that The Lord of the Rings movies were created, and done so well. One question that has bugged me for years is "Why was England unable to produce a Lord of the Rings movie?"

    • @idjles
      @idjles 2 месяца назад +12

      Lack of mountains and volcanos

    • @samdaniels2
      @samdaniels2 2 месяца назад +3

      @@idjlesVolcanos maybe, but there are mountains. Plus there’s a tonne more in Wales and Scotland.

    • @Thurgosh_OG
      @Thurgosh_OG 2 месяца назад +6

      Though not as grand (as those in New Zealand), the mountains in the Highlands could match the terrain needed and indeed have been used in several fantasy films (Dragonslayer, for example). England's smaller mountains, just don't have the majesty needed.

    • @mepatton
      @mepatton 2 месяца назад

      @@idjles Location shooting can be done anywhere. Bond films have been famous for exotic location shoots for over half a century.

    • @memoryandthought4481
      @memoryandthought4481 2 месяца назад

      Maybe...they had to wait for the perfect English Actors.

  • @lizardmix
    @lizardmix 2 месяца назад +1

    It’s always tough to watch some people go on a collective nerd rant without being able to join in. 😆
    I hugely enjoy how almost visceral our memories of watching these films in theatres are. Like when y’all were describing the Moria “vignette”, the stairs falling over, the goblins shooting arrows from all over the place, seeing that for the first time is one of my most vivid memories.
    Also quickly wanted to bring up that in most discussions we have about LOTR as a movie franchise we forget to mention Fran Walsh and Philippa Boyens, who were working on that crazy impossible script all the way through the production process. I read that Fran Walsh as Peter Jackson’s wife very much chose to be the person in the family who would stay out of the limelight but the script, character development, etc was very much a family effort, plus one additional screen writer. Seeing the reality of that in the BTS footage has always impressed me. Imagine your whole family just living in that huge movie production for a really long time. Low key jealous of their kids who pop up in all three movies.

  • @takura187
    @takura187 2 месяца назад +2

    When the elves show up at helms deep... "That is no Orc's horn"

  • @thebenforever
    @thebenforever 2 месяца назад +3

    I went on a trip to NZ in 2003 or 2004 for a two week self-guided tour of the filming locations, and in one of the cities there was a massive postage stamp of Gandalf hanging from the side of a building (It had to have covered half of the building).
    The set of Hobbiton had already been basically abandoned to the sheep, and there was an overall "wrapping up" feel to the visit, but it was still an awesome experience!

    • @zaynevanday142
      @zaynevanday142 2 месяца назад

      😂😂😂 Hobbiton in Matamata is full on still looking and open to the public 2004 must have been a bad year 😂

    • @thebenforever
      @thebenforever 2 месяца назад +1

      @@zaynevanday142 i mean we visited by way of a tour van, and the fronts of the houses were still in place so you could crouch and get your photos taken in the doorways, but it was returning to a working sheep farm when I was there. Lol.
      Crazy that the tree in the film was from another location, cut up, pieces numbered, and reassembled there.

  • @Wintertalent
    @Wintertalent 2 месяца назад +7

    Strong disagree on the Tower of Cirith Ungol sequence. It's a totally relevant one. In it, Sam and Frodo reunite, Frodo realizes he was stupid for sending Sam away, plus the orcs get Frodo's mithril armour which then finds its way into the hands of the Mouth of Sauron who shows it to the remaining Fellowship members, giving them a moment of dismay, only for that to turn into hope and willingness to keep going.

    • @Jamii.pages.
      @Jamii.pages. 2 месяца назад +2

      Also it shows Sam's strength in being able bear the ring..(even putting it on while carrying it for 2 days in the books) and not succumbing to its evil and willingly returning it to Frodo..

    • @samuel5591
      @samuel5591 2 месяца назад

      Not to mention charging a tower of orcs and taking out a bunch of them! Sam is MVP.

    • @louisroy4911
      @louisroy4911 Месяц назад

      I think that scene is lessened a bit in the theatrical cut because we don’t see the Mouth of Sauron and the Mithril armor pop back to try and discourage Aragorn.

  • @bryanabbott6169
    @bryanabbott6169 2 месяца назад +3

    Someday VLDL should do a Lord of the Rings 'inspired' trilogy involving the characters from Epic NPC Man (Baradun instead of Gandalf, Greg instead of Samwise (who needs potatoes when you have garlic?), Bodger instead of Gimli ('I am half Dwarf, after all.'), Tinfoil Ben instead of Gollum, Fred and Freda instead of Pippin and Merry, etc.).

    • @poponachtschnecke
      @poponachtschnecke 2 месяца назад

      Baradun is much more of a Saruman

    • @bryanabbott6169
      @bryanabbott6169 2 месяца назад

      @@poponachtschnecke This is where the magic VLDL comes in. Baradun's supposedly the protector of Honeywood, but when it comes to the High Sorcerer, as they say, "With friends like these, who needs enemies!"

  • @Un4tuner
    @Un4tuner 2 месяца назад +7

    The only thing amuses me is that you haven't read LoTR before movies. LoTR is the staple of "fantasy everything".

  • @jetshadowcrow
    @jetshadowcrow 2 месяца назад +2

    My 7yr old daughter, just started getting into fantasy all by herself. And now this podcast is making us have a LOTR/Hobbit day.

  • @guillaume4519
    @guillaume4519 2 месяца назад +1

    Lurtz (the Uruk hai boss) fight is Barrie Osborne work.
    Dvd bonuses says thay Peter Jackson was hesitant to integer such a wild scene (like when he licks his own blood from the knife), but in the end it was just perfect.

  • @michaelscaplis
    @michaelscaplis 2 месяца назад +2

    Loved the PS2 Helms deep fight as well it really managed to imerge the player - you really felt you were there.

  • @louisroy4911
    @louisroy4911 Месяц назад

    The World’s End was a pretty big movie theater experience for me. I already loved Edgar Wright and Hot Fuzz is in my top movies of all time, but I walked in there with my brother who didn’t know anything about the movie.
    I think I had seen a trailer that spoiled the aliens, but had only showed him a trailer for the bar crawl.
    I will always remember the shock, excitement and pure fun he had when shits start going down.
    That’s one of the most amazing experience we’ve had in a theater since LoTR

  • @TwoFlyingDutchMen
    @TwoFlyingDutchMen 2 месяца назад +3

    They are totally right. The main reason i want to visit new Zealand is because of lotr. And because from here it's basically exactly the other side of the planet and that is interesting to me as well

  • @RyuzakiHirokai
    @RyuzakiHirokai Месяц назад

    I think a reason why LoTR inspired so many is because of the sheer magnitude of the behind the scenes. In most movies, even today, behind the scenes are 15-30 minutes. They offer some quick facts and that's about it. LoTR went above and beyons to show every minute detail that went into the film. There were so many facets and specialities that viewers never even considered before, myself included. Everyone knew about actors, directors, designers, and the like, but it was LoTR's behind the scenes that made me want to go into making dioramas, and I'm sure I'm not the only one who found a life passion by the behind the scenes alone.

  • @Tob1Kadach1
    @Tob1Kadach1 2 месяца назад +1

    I love all 3 films but my favourite scene will always be in the 1st film where Frodo offers the ring to Aragon only for Aragon to close Frodo's hand and say "I would of gone with you to the end, in to the very fires of Mordor."

  • @ammonbingham7292
    @ammonbingham7292 2 месяца назад

    Frodo getting captured at Cirith Ungol was important to the story because later at the Black Gates the mouth of Sauron shows Gandalf and Aragorn the mithril shirt to fool them into thinking that Frodo had already been captured and the Ring recovered, hoping that they would give up the fight (only shown in extended editions). The fact that they chose to fight anyway, even believing that Frodo and Sam were already dead, is just awesome

  • @nargen5419
    @nargen5419 2 месяца назад +3

    Before i was born my parents bought they extended cut bundel. I think it has 2 hours of extra content (you need fact check me on that). We watch it every year in winter times even now still after i moved. And i have never seen the original movies because i litteraly grew up with lotr extended version. I just thought it was normal to watch a lot of movies with your parents but a lot of people of my age have never seen lotr or even something like harry potter. I am happy that they brought some culture into my life. I heard it was also worth a lot now as a collection item so thats good i guess.

    • @mattparsons433
      @mattparsons433 Месяц назад

      The original releases are not as good as the extended versions, there are some really important scenes missing. There’s not too much extra in the first film but the last one has something like an hour extra. The whole bit tying up Saruman’s death was cut out of the third cinema release.

  • @zero.the.prototype
    @zero.the.prototype 2 месяца назад +1

    They way yall felt about "the fellowship" is how I feel about VLDL today. I would pay a million bucks if I had it just to be a guest in a crampy side skit. I came home from a job interview today with an idea for a script for one of your series'.
    I hope one day you all get recognized as a National Treasure. Dirt League Parade from Parliament is an inevitability.
    ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

  • @joshp2080
    @joshp2080 2 месяца назад +2

    U guys poke a lot of fun at being just another podcast, but it is really a very important podcast to have and now my #1 favorite podcast out of like the 8 podcasts I watch regularly

  • @p_3ater160
    @p_3ater160 2 месяца назад +4

    I can't remember if I watched the films or read the books first. I know my first lotr book was a 3 in 1 cover and Mum and Dad wanted me to read the books before I watched the movies for a lot of films.
    I'm pretty sure that in the books, the ghost army is only there to take care of the pirates, but I can see why they changed it for the movies to give more of a sense that the orc army was undefeatable.

  • @TMAC_burninator
    @TMAC_burninator 2 месяца назад +1

    Peter Jackson's LOTR films are gold. The Hobbit films should have been two movies at most and needed to be closer to the book. That "Rings of Power" show spits on Tolkien's memory and should be forgotten.

    • @samuel5591
      @samuel5591 2 месяца назад

      The best (only imo) way to watch The Hobbit is to find the Tolkien Cut fan edit, which removes all the crap that wasn't in the book.
      Brings it down to about 4 hours and tells a much tighter, more accurate story.

  • @palando1
    @palando1 2 месяца назад +2

    being a extreme lotr fan, i love this channel even more.

  • @User1A_
    @User1A_ 2 месяца назад +1

    The spider/frodo/tower scene had to happen, because that was the reason that sam also carried the ring, bonding frodo and sam forever.

  • @tomtheptgamerguy
    @tomtheptgamerguy 2 месяца назад +3

    Curious if any of the VLDL crew has played LoTRO? It's dated now, but does well to bring the source material and world to life imo

    • @nicoledavis3797
      @nicoledavis3797 Месяц назад +1

      LOTRO is the freaking BOMB! I miss playing it

  • @Bricksgaming710
    @Bricksgaming710 2 месяца назад +2

    I think my favorite was the two towers and they're being attacked and legless throws gimli and they charge all the orcs and then gandalf just comes over that hill

  • @Godlysound
    @Godlysound Месяц назад

    Personally a large part of my admiration for the trilogy comes from howard shore's film score. So many iconic motifs that force emotion out of you. The theme of the ring that plays over the title card, the theme of rohan on that solitary violin, the theme of the fellowship blasting triumphant brass as they traverse a mountaintop, the pounding drums of isengard, the music was always as impressive and cohesive as it needed to be and then some, one of the best film soundtracks ever composed.

  • @IanSewell-iz9iq
    @IanSewell-iz9iq 2 месяца назад

    Alans comment about them feeling like mates but not knowing then and following them on this journey . It’s how I feel watching you guys and following your VLDL journey, feel like we know you guys. Bring such joy to my life. Look forward to what you guys post everyday.

  • @SaltedMoose
    @SaltedMoose 2 месяца назад

    Interesting factoid: A lot of M3gan was shot in New Zealand, with a NZ crew. The big interior shots of the toy company, Gemma's house, the forest were in NZ. And one of the M3gan actors was a kiwi. New Zealand is amazing in so many ways.

  • @ralhamami
    @ralhamami 2 месяца назад

    One of the things that made me first fall in love with New Zealand was "Hercules: The Legendary Journeys" in the 90s. Loved the show, but couldn't get over the supporting characters and scenery. ❤

  • @JimCullen
    @JimCullen 2 месяца назад +1

    It's actually not 3 books, but 6. From the "note on the text" that's in the single-volume editions: "The Lord of the Rings is often erroneously called a trilogy, when it is in fact a single novel, consisting of six books plus appendices, sometimes published in three volumes."

  • @mattbarnes3325
    @mattbarnes3325 2 месяца назад +3

    I feel like these guys should reach out to Dominic Monaghan and Billy Boyd! They'd mesh so well together.

  • @Paganbeliever
    @Paganbeliever 2 месяца назад +4

    I don't know why, but it feels weird seeing Rowan NOT belittering and going at it towards Adam

  • @DeltymR
    @DeltymR 2 месяца назад +2

    I had the opportunity to meet john rhys davies who played gimli at comic con this year, he is such a wonderful person. I'm making it my goal to meet the cast of the lotr movies.

  • @Jacana2k6
    @Jacana2k6 2 месяца назад

    Such a fun talk. Just an FYI, the Frodo in the tower at the edge of Mordor was the cliffhanger from the end of the Two Towers. Maybe really not needed for the movies but Jackson would have caught flak if he didn't include it.
    Also for the Two Towers and Return of the King, Tolkien split both books in two. The first half was about everyone but Sam and Frodo. The second half was Sam, Frodo and sometimes Gollum. With the very end of Return with the Fellowship back together until they all go home. So on the first read, at the end of Two Towers Frodo is in the hands of the enemy and Sam locked outside. The next time we hear of them is the Mouth of Sauron handing over bits of their gear and telling lies about their fate. Good call by Jackson for the change as it would get very confusing in the timeline for the movie.

  • @48some
    @48some 2 месяца назад +9

    what role would they get if Peter Jackson would hire them for the movies...

    • @vikinglord6323
      @vikinglord6323 2 месяца назад +2

      Rowan - Aragorn, Alan - Frodo, Adam - Faramir. ???

    • @phoenixdzk
      @phoenixdzk 2 месяца назад +12

      Rowan, you can't keep running away, you're the steward of Gondor!

    • @edwardlogan267
      @edwardlogan267 2 месяца назад +1

      They would be extras. Rowan a man of Gondor, Adam is hobbit, Allan is an elf

    • @filip1x95
      @filip1x95 2 месяца назад +1

      Peons.

  • @jbonaful
    @jbonaful 5 дней назад

    I asked my dad, who read the books repeatedly since the '70s, "Is Gandalf gone now?" "Yup, Gandalf the Grey is dead." Oh man haha, my brain exploded when Gandalf the White rolled up.

  • @andrewbulldog93
    @andrewbulldog93 2 месяца назад +5

    Peter Jackson kept wanting to add more and more in each film

    • @vikinglord6323
      @vikinglord6323 2 месяца назад +1

      Right!? I believe they actually did some re-shoots for "Return of The King" extended addition AFTER already winning 11 Academy Awards for the film!

    • @poponachtschnecke
      @poponachtschnecke 2 месяца назад

      I wish he wouldn't have for the Paths of the Dead scenes 🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️

  • @diannalynnYT
    @diannalynnYT 2 месяца назад +5

    Wait...how has anyone not seen LOTR? Seriously I thought that was something everyone has seen and watches every single chance they get. Wow.

  • @andrewparkin4036
    @andrewparkin4036 2 месяца назад +6

    The Hobbit definitely should be 1 film roughly 3 hours long and that'd be fine but 3 films at 3 hours each was way too long.

  • @lodragan
    @lodragan 2 месяца назад

    In 1970s USA I read TLOTR trilogy FIRST, then I read the Hobbit. The Hobbit was more for kids, whereas TLOTR trilogy was more substantial in adult terms. That may explain the 'meh' response to the Hobbit movie. Many years later I read the Silmarillion - and really understood what was happening in Middle Earth. Those books were also what shifted Science Fiction in a ground shaking way that made fantasy novels acceptable and now a major genre in fiction from the mid-1960s to the present.
    For me, those books lead to discovery of the fledgling D&D tabletop gaming system books, dice, and miniatures at my local hobby shop which we devoured with every dollar we could spare, and me and my friends would stay late after school and play in the school library until the librarians threw us out.
    Later on I got involved in computer video gaming, and in particular Sony Online's 'Everquest' - which was the first MMO to bring a Middle-Earth-Like (but not exactly like for copyright reasons) experience to first and third-person online gaming. I played on a team-PVP (player vs player) server, and if you really wanted the wild West you could join an open PVP server. Most folks preferred the PVE (player vs environment) servers - poor bastages. Then along came other MMORPGs such as "Dark Age of Camelot", "World of Warcraft", "Rift" and a plethora of other titles, each with their own spin on the genre. WOW still keeps going, while most of the others either don't exist or are a shadow of their former selves. I never really got into console gaming myself; I always associated it with poor graphics, and kids games - though they have emerged today from those early limitations.
    And to come full circle: one day I was doom scrolling on RUclips and found this VLDL channel which featured Greg the Garlic Farmer, Bodger and the other NPCs, which made me LMAFO ROFLMAO for the first time in a long time and the rest, as they say, is history.
    The world is truly a small place with advent of the internet. I've met so many people from so many countries playing video games (Canada, New Zealand, Brazil, England, Australia, just to name a few), and some have evolved into deep friendships. I would not have missed it for the world. Love what you guys and gals are doing both in terms of storytelling and comedy. Kudos!

  • @clintonjrhennenfent863
    @clintonjrhennenfent863 Месяц назад

    Agh, I do my annual extended edition marathon around Christmas season, and you guys are making me want to watch it now!

  • @The_Astles
    @The_Astles 2 месяца назад

    I’m a massive Tolkien fan, but I just had my mind blown again. It was Adam saying he loves the ents, I looked realised something, and looked it up and was shocked! Morgoth stole Elves to make Orcs. He stole Ents and made TROLLS! Trolls are fricking Ents which have been tortured into something awful! Mind blown 🤯🤯🤯🤯

    • @lizardmix
      @lizardmix 2 месяца назад +1

      Oh yeah. Trolls are therefore basically wood transmuted into stone. Kinda. Sorta.

  • @rickanderson8683
    @rickanderson8683 2 месяца назад

    The whole LotR, WETA Workshop, etc thing you're speaking on is a repeat in many ways of the original Star Wars film, Lucasfilm, and Industrial Light & Magic phenomenon.
    It's also very interesting hearing your personal lives' build-ups toward seeing the LotR films. I mean, the influences you had from video games, etc as younger guys compared to me. I got into LotR, The Hobbit, and later Terry Brooks's Shanara trilogy from my childhood and adolescent love of mythology, Robin Hood, King Arthur, Beowulf, The Nibelunglied, the Volsunga Saga, etc. It was those atories etc that got me into Dungeons & Dragons in the late 1970s. So for me, it was LotR first and all the gaming stuff afterwards. We, both my gamer crew and my generation, waited decades for LotR even after the cartoon.
    Great episode, guys!

  • @louisroy4911
    @louisroy4911 Месяц назад

    X-Men ‘97 right now is the most exited I’ve been for a franchise since Endgame and LoTR.

  • @JustanOlGuy
    @JustanOlGuy 2 месяца назад +5

    LoTR is some of the finest cinema I have seen in my 61 years on this planet.

  • @amybethell7369
    @amybethell7369 Месяц назад

    The first time I had ever learned about New Zealand was when I used to watch The Adventures of the Black Stallion, where they filmed the entire third season in NZ. It was that show (the 3rd season was filmed in 1990 I believe) that made me want to visit New Zealand. LOTR just reinforced it!

  • @benjaminlashley1553
    @benjaminlashley1553 2 месяца назад +1

    my favorite scene from the three films is the charge of the Rohirrim in the battle of Pelennor fields

  • @MrScrofulous
    @MrScrofulous 2 месяца назад

    My wife and I had a running joke for years about how I always had second breakfast, cos it was a thing for me, especially on the weekend when I would get up early, go do stuff, then come back and eat again. She had not read the books. Then the moves came, and Merry or Pippin says "do you think he knows about second's" and she just cracked up completely.

  • @Tob1Kadach1
    @Tob1Kadach1 2 месяца назад

    LOTR & a little animated film called The Flight of Dragons are what made me fall in love with High Fantasy. I'd already seen The Neverending Story & Labyrinth when I was little but I saw all 3 LOTR films in cinema when I was 8, 9 & 10. Then Oblivion came out when I was 13 which got me in to fantasy gaming.

  • @Milxfanta
    @Milxfanta 2 месяца назад +5

    Video idea: Rowan sacrifices the workers

  • @charlie_bear2011
    @charlie_bear2011 2 месяца назад +1

    Ok....everyone stop what you're doing! We're gonna "Clockwork Orange" LOTR into Ellie's mind!

  • @DaigotsuSoetsu
    @DaigotsuSoetsu 2 месяца назад +1

    If you guys haven't watched any of the fan-edited Hobbit cuts some of them are worth a good watch. Removing unnecessary scenes and CG, focusing on the good aspects like Martin Freeman's Bilbo scenes~

  • @IncomitatusExcelsior
    @IncomitatusExcelsior Месяц назад

    Speaking as someone outside of New Zealand, I would say tourism in New Zealand is talked about in terms of two things: LOTR and wine.

  • @lukasgrunwald3779
    @lukasgrunwald3779 2 месяца назад

    Just rewatched LOTR two days ago - greatest movie of all time!
    Love your content guys!

  • @braxtonflake2130
    @braxtonflake2130 2 месяца назад

    LotR has been inspirational to so many people, myself included as a story writer and D&D DM, and it will literally be ingrained into the history books. If there is one thing that needs to be preserved in history for all time, it needs to be LotR. Let the aliens come millennia later, and hopefully they will find a copy of it somewhere!

  • @user-je6ou4xh4m
    @user-je6ou4xh4m Месяц назад

    My favourite LOTR moment is definitely the defence of Minas Tiriths' gate.

  • @calaquendi42
    @calaquendi42 Месяц назад

    As an fyi, the purpose of Frodo being captured in the tower after the Shelob's lair sequence is for Sam to pass the ring's test. Sam gets the ring and it is critical that like Frodo, Gandalf, Bilbo and no others, Sam is able to physically possess the ring for a time and let it go. the movie downplays this because you can't see what is in Sam's head but he goes through delusions of grandeur in the books during this time.

  • @andrewparkin4036
    @andrewparkin4036 2 месяца назад +1

    Much as i love the LotR films and im glad that all 3 were made, its a real shame that the 2nd and 3rd parts weren't made for the animated version.

  • @romantressler4480
    @romantressler4480 2 месяца назад +1

    If only Wheel of time could get a proper adaptation like LOTR.

  • @CopticKalnor
    @CopticKalnor 2 месяца назад

    Oh Adam the whole point of Frodo being captured is so that Sam can prove himself the greatest hero. He thinks Frodo is dead and chooses to take on the burden of the ring himself and to destroy it and carry on alone. However Frodo isn't dead and Sam proves his bravery more by entering a tower he assumes is full of loads of orcs. It also shows he was tempted by the ring and uses it to help rescue Frodo. THEN he willingly gives up the ring to Frodo and isnt tempted by it again once it's out of his possession. This is the best part of the Return of the King book. Showing that Sam is the true hero of the tale. This being based on Tolkien's experience in World War One when he was left for dead and his lower class friend Sam went to continue a mission but then came back and found him and rescued him and gave him the strength to continue.

  • @crankybear4607
    @crankybear4607 2 месяца назад

    Been watching since November 2017 and finally bought some merch! :) Keep up the great work guys!

  • @nosrin1988
    @nosrin1988 2 месяца назад +1

    The hobbit should have been 1-2 film(s). It could have been cut at the point where they go into the magic door on the mountain. So you have one slow fun journey to the mountain, and the sequel would be packed with action between the stuff with smaug and the five armies.

  • @andrewparkin4036
    @andrewparkin4036 2 месяца назад +3

    The ring of Shmagenrog

  • @loganspratt9319
    @loganspratt9319 Месяц назад

    Like I have always said 5 best things to come out of NZ. In order
    1. VLDL
    2. LOTR
    3. Almighty Johnsons
    4. Black sheep
    5. Pavlova/ Russell Crow (both actually austrailian).

  • @orchidgrey6724
    @orchidgrey6724 2 месяца назад

    I absolutely loved Meet the feebles, it was insanely crazy and funny, I loved seeing this other side to him that played more into the dark and gritty side of humor as well as some just downright disturbing moments.. it touched on that unorthodox urge for for the weird and freaky for me.

  • @damiien2684
    @damiien2684 Месяц назад

    Mentioning Vampire really makes me want to see you guys doing a scene from LOTR and Rowan shows up as the Vampire character.

  • @smeemusic
    @smeemusic 2 месяца назад

    I wanna see a sitcom with vldl cast. There could even be several sitcoms. One for each thing you do. Techtown, epic npc man, game logic, even the voice over actor ones. This stuff would make the best sitcom since the 90’s! Like the super cuts are cool and all but I wanna see a cohesive story play out over 30 minutes ya know.

  • @0nevadajim
    @0nevadajim 2 месяца назад +1

    Independence day was that way for me, i didn't see any ads beforehand and i thought it was the best movie ❤

  • @james-cz4xx
    @james-cz4xx 2 месяца назад +1

    When I first read the title of this episode, it was "How VLDL inspired LOTR". Got to love dyslexia making life a little more interesting.

  • @thebrotherskrynn
    @thebrotherskrynn 2 месяца назад +2

    I had hoped this would be about how the books inspired, rather than the movies strangely.

  • @MrWongle
    @MrWongle 2 месяца назад +2

    I have never been to a cinema where people have had any reaction apart from laughter at jokes. Never seen someone applaud for example. Can't ever imagine that happening in England.

  • @chipjohnson9283
    @chipjohnson9283 2 месяца назад

    The dish soap Dawn used to have a scent called "New Zealand spring". I said to a coworker once, "I wonder if anybody ever got on a plane, flew to New Zealand, got off the plane and said: It smells like Dawn!"
    Probably not! 😅

  • @philnicolle8918
    @philnicolle8918 2 месяца назад

    Read The Hobbit as a 10-year-old and really loved it. I was given the LotR trilogy as a primary school graduation present from the librarian, so I didn't question that it was old and a bit worn. Read the first one as a 12-year-old. Hated it. Read the second over the 5 years of highschool and despised it (but if I start a book I finish it). At the time, the worst book I had ever read! I was surprised when I loved the movies (the first two came out in those five years). The first year of uni while trying to read the third, a friend got really excited because I had a 2nd edition printing. I'd had no idea. Sure enough, looked at the print dates, and it was the early 60's (Aus print). Apparently, the librarian hadn't just given me old, worn copies from the shelves. She showed me her modern movie cover version, and we realised it was over a hundred pages shorter. Compared the first and second and found the same. Switched to the modern, heavily edited version of the third and enjoyed it. My friend borrowed and then weeks later returned my 2nd first book, like me it'd taken her ages to get through the three pages sentence about the fucking wind blowing through the fucking willow trees.
    I was massively disappointed when The Hobbit movies came out; what a collection of steaming turds.

  • @BitBanger41
    @BitBanger41 Месяц назад

    I always thought that the Hobbit should be have been done as a greatly expanded scene of Bilbo at his birthday party, telling the story to the kids.

  • @roxana9131
    @roxana9131 2 месяца назад

    Your behind the scene are like a drug to me and I would feel awesome just to spend 10 min in your presence. Love you guys ❤️

  • @michaelweaver4439
    @michaelweaver4439 2 месяца назад +1

    I meet New Zealanders and I say, oh yer where VLDL come from, and they know what I’m talking about!

  • @JustinNathanielAdams
    @JustinNathanielAdams 2 месяца назад +1

    I could listen to people praise the LOTR film trilogy all day

  • @kse8348
    @kse8348 2 месяца назад +1

    Kiwiwood is the leading movie paradise

  • @petergagnonjr5600
    @petergagnonjr5600 2 месяца назад

    They did a fantastic job taking the books and making them into movies. I was a Wheel of Time fanatic when I was younger. I went to watch the series and stopped before the first episode was over. What a perversion of Robert Jordans books!!

  • @malevellysian
    @malevellysian 2 месяца назад +4

    Jesus Ellie 😂

  • @miniminimowmow4669
    @miniminimowmow4669 2 месяца назад

    lotr has always been my favorite trilogy that and the hobbit since a kid and its cool to see they love it too

  • @Paxmax
    @Paxmax 2 месяца назад

    LotR is like a Michelin 3 course meal... Schmobbit and Schming of schmower is just a plate of pickings from a schmorgasbord.

  • @WrathChild-NZ
    @WrathChild-NZ 2 месяца назад

    A friend of mine got to be a Hobbit extra in The Hobbit movie. she got a short line too. She said the actors were so nice Sir Ian Mckellen didnt even eat with the main actors he would come and sit with the extras and have chats with them!

  • @chrisl8292
    @chrisl8292 2 месяца назад

    36:30 I highly recommend watching extended edition of second Hobbit movie. 24fps ver obviously, not HFR (high frame rate) trash.
    I just recently rewatched hobbit movies with my son on bluray on my home theater. Watched on 4k TV (so upscaled bluray 1080p) with an mid lvl surround sound system and decent subwoofer. But the first two Hobbit movies weren't nearly as bad as I remembered. My son and I both found the Dragon payoff epic. With my barebones $100 subwoofer, his voice was still booming and just epic!
    Side NOTE: Sound for movies on physical media like bluray or 4kbluray is often WAY better than streaming versions. Far less compressed and more dynamic, more subtle details and louder. Less amp needed for same equiv volume. Very noticeable on a home theater sound system. So if you have physical copy, I recommend that over a streaming rewatch.
    Seriously, give the first two a try again and make sure 2nd movie is extended edition ver.
    The third is still kind of trash story wise. Just ugh. So thin on story. Up until last min it was going to just be two Hobbit movies.