How SCOOBY-DOO Rose From the DEAD (Film Retrospective)
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- Опубликовано: 12 июн 2024
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Zombie Island, Witch's Ghost, Alien Invaders, and Cyber Chase. These four films saved the Scooby-Doo franchise from stagnation, and cause a resurgence that still exists today. Today we'll be reviewing all four films, seeing how they play with the formula, and look into the tumultuous productions.
Wash the taste of Velma out of your mouth as we revisit Scooby-Doo's animated Golden Age. Hex Girls, Furries, and Tim Curry let's goooo
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0:00 Intro
1:27 History
4:00 Scooby-Doo on Zombie Island
18:18 Scooby-Doo and the Witch's Ghost
29:36 Scooby-Doo and the Alien Invaders
41:43 Scooby-Doo and the Cyber Chase
58:38 Truff's Stuff
1:02:40 Conclusion and Ranking
1:05:50 Endslate Кино
And Cyber Chase would have gotten away with their original concept if it wasn't for those meddling executives!
Pour one out for Stenstrum
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God I still remember first seeing Zombie Island and I remember how terrified I was.
You could even say it was terror time again
At 3:39 In the video, what was that song?@@hassledvania
What was the name of It I meant.@@hassledvania
@@animanga9597"Chug Jug with you"
I unironically listen to skycycle terror time all the time. Someone edited a together a 4 minute version that's awesome
Zombie Island was a gem but still for some reason I remember the Alien invaders and Cyber chase much more fondly and nostalgically
31:19 it’s a shame Fred didn’t get a DTV movie within the quadrilogy, but he does get the main focus in Mystery Incorporated
Hes SO good in Mystery Inc, by far my favourite
Mystery Inc is probably the "best version" but I always loved the original. Plus it's something you can show to younger kids safely that doesn't totally suck...lol
Thanks for watching! Yeah its hard to top that original 2 season run, its something special
Daphne truly was the main protagonist of Zombie Island… never thought of it like that. Love it!!!
Be honest. Cyber Chase can’t be as bad as Mindy Kailing.
Not even Return to Zombie Island is THAT bad lol
@@hassledvania Thaaaat’s for sure😏👍
I always sorta thought it would have been interesting if instead of it being the only plot twist of Ben's ancestor actually being a witch, that he was using the good deeds of *Thorn's* wiccan ancestor to make his story of wanting to clear her name seem more pure. That or have Thorn and him be distant relatives and there being either two sides of Sarah; before she turned to darker practices and truly became an evil witch and after. That or there being two sisters with differing strengths in magic, with the sister being considered the good wiccan and Sarah being into more overtly obvious forms of magic that tipped people off of their abilities and had her sealed while her sister was burnt at the stak but history erased her and made everything about Sarah, fueling her anger against the normal humans. Either way it would stregnthen the message and show how manipulative some may be, making themselves seem like the good guy when theyre just hypocrites.
Really good points. I think they was a lot more they couldve done to layer the plot, even with the third act it has.
Definitely another problem caused by WB pushing for it to be a run of the mill mystery.
Yea i gotta say the Hex girls are definitely part of the reason my taste in women is the way it is.
They were peak design in this one too
Valid
so glad found your video. these 4 movies were the stable of my childhood and what got me really into scooby doo. i can agree with you on the cyber chase movie, i thought it was a real downgrade compared to the other 3 movies. i saw cyber chase once and never wanted to see it again for how lackluster it was. but i think these movies still hold up really well even 20 something years later.
Glad you found the video too!
“We’ve been levitated before” got me so hard
This was such a nostalgic watch, thank you! Watching this video has unlocked very happy memories of my childhood. The alien twist actually kind of frightened me when I was a kid, which I credit to well, the alien nature of the designs. I have very fond memories of all these films, with the exception of Cyber Chase which I barely remember and I think I was a little frightened by the darker elements of Zombie Island.
Thanks for watching! Yeah Zombie Island in particular really takes me back to late autumn evenings as a kid
Fun fact: In addition to being the original voice of Fred, voicing Fred for decades, and voicing Scooby since the early 2000s, Frank Welker has also voiced tons of characters and animals from many things you've probably seen in your childhood.
A couple notable examples: He is the one who did the lion roars for The Lion King. That's right. Not a single lion was used for those noises. And he voiced Abu, Raja, and the Cave of Wonders in Aladdin. And that's only the tip of the iceberg. He's been in so many things.
A true legend
The witch's ghost was very good as well.
Loved that one, Tim Curry makes that film at the end
Wonder how old Moonscar and his men were there...when they were alive?
I'm glad you bring it up because I feel like the Americana aspect of the first three is one of the most under-appreciated aspects of these films. I don't know if it's because I'm not American but it's crazy to me how much those vibes go unspoken.
Each of the three is like taking a different slice out of a multi-flavoured America cake.
THANK YOU
The vibes of 1-3 sre unmatched
Heard that there was gonna be a fifth one but things that occurred to prevent it.
1. No one liked the scripts for cyber chase and constant passing around ideas that ate too much into the budget.
2. Cyber Chase and its tie in game didn't sell well, so they wasn't going to continue their work with Mook Animation.
3. Warner Bros was likely more focused on the first live action movie for 2002, than another VHS movie.
I heard that it was supposed to be set in S.America and the gang go to Carnevale and deal with a monster there, well that idea eventually become Scooby Doo:Monster in Mexico.
Personally I think the 4 really progressed as a chronicle.
Zombie island the gang was splitting but real threats brought them together(this movie became a staple for many ideas later on), Witches Ghost solved the clues of the past to help the present move forward/Hex Girls, Alien Invaders theres more to our world than men in suits/Shaggy and Scooby wanted love, and Cyber Chase moved forward into the future and shown the fun and dangers of technology.
i had a visceral reaction to the cyber chase song
boom boom diggity day all night
I had completely forgotten that I had seen that movie, but when that song came up, I realized, omg THAT is where that song that’s been haunting (ahem) me for decades came from??
Zombie island STILL slaps, fight me
It do tho
If you think about it had Zombie Island followed classic zombie logic. Fred cannonically would have a kill count.😅😂
18:11 my reaction to the scoob movie in a nutshell
Frank Welker also didn't play Fred in A Pup Named Scooby Doo (since it was kid version) or Scoob! (since they replaced him with Zac Efron, but Welker was at least still involved by voicing Scooby)
Still blows my mind they recast Lillard in that film for a VA with arguably less star power, what was the point
Appreciate the shout out my guy!
My personal favorite of these 4 is the Witches Ghost but unquestionably the most impactful one was Zombie Island, if you were a kid in the late 90s when it premiered it was the talk of the school yard.
It’s not true that this was the first time we saw real monsters in Scooby doo. The Scrappy Doo and Red Shirt Shaggy era was full of them but it was the time we saw the all of the gang in the original format with real monsters that wasn’t played for comedy .
I have long believed that the best possible “adult” Scooby Doo series we could get would be a remake of the 13 ghost of Scooby Doo in the style of Zombie Island
Tim Curry would be a,axing as Vincent Van Ghoul since he is the Vincent Price of this generation.
9:47 child-hood bop 😂
Can we also talk about how AMAZING the food looks in all of these movies ? To this day I still want to try all the foods they show in this quadrilogy. The crawdads, the beignets, everything from the diner in Witch's Ghost, the donuts from Alien Invaders, the fries and ketchup from the virtual world, and everything from the university food court in cyber chase ??! 😋😍
15:08 Another Fun Fact: That unmade Swat Kats episode also became an episode of The Real Adventures of Jonny Quest called Eclipse.
Oh really? You know, I love Venture Bros but Ive never actually never tried Johnny Quest
@@hassledvania I enjoy Venture Bros and it's a nice deconstruction of JQ. Do checkout Jonny Quest. Only the original show and The Real Adventures of Jonny Quest.
I'm surprised that these movies are not on HBO max!
WB seems to have no love for Zombie Island in general! Its an actual crime
They don't have Witch's ghost either or Boo brothers. Those were a couple of movies I was excited to see when I knew Scooy Doo was on HBO Max. Actually they don't have a lot of Scooby stuff. Reluctant werewolf isn't on there. Thirteen Ghosts of Scooby Doo which is a rare gem is not on there. It's a shame.
Do I smell a Underrated Channel????
Great Analysis on this Trilogy. A lot of what you said here are also
My feelings on the this Wonderful set of Movies.
To me, Scooby doo is a franchise that needs a Darker more mature outlook to work. The Bright characters contrast so well with dark locations and storytelling. So it is a shame there's only cheap DVD movies and Well Velma. . . . . Hopefully there well be better Versions that try to Take notes of these Three original films . Of course without any of that Nostalgia bait Nonsense. Ok long comment over. :3
Velmas funny in that its trying to be "Adult Scooby Doo" yet is infinitely more childish than Zombie Island.
Id recommend (surprisingly) Scoobynatural. Its another "Adult gorey" take on Scooby Doo but is done with a LOT of love.
I'm loving this video! I remember watching every single Scooby Doo movie growing up and playing all the PS2 games...Mystery mayhem was a personal favourite of mine :)
I'm now a subscriber of yours I can't wait to watch all your other videos! I would like to also thank you for commenting on my video I found your amazing channel that way :D
What a nice comment, thanks so much! Video Essayists striving and thriving together hell yeah
@@hassledvania Keep working hard brother! and in regards to that I guess there's only one thing left to say Avengers....Assemble (I'll walk myself out)
Gahd DAMN I wanna watch these again. Yeah I dunno what they could’ve done for a spooky villain in cyber chase 🤷♀️ he’s just kinda… a squiggle shape
Hell yeah! Don't sleep on Alien Invaders!
Cyber Chase will always be my favorite
My girlfriend playlist consists of Zombie Island into Witch's Ghost. And that's it. She liked them both.
Shes a keeper
Great movies, one of my favorites in series and actually more creepy than usual in this series but after rewatching my last one I will say yes. Zombie Island, since I heard it was "the best Scooby-Doo movie", I must say I was a bit disappointed, but it's still a great movie, I really appreciate it, although it's not my favorite. Witch's Ghost is definitely my favorite 10/10 I love everything and I was more scared here than the previous one . Alien Invaders is great, not my favorite, but very enjoyable and cool, and it was touching at the end :( And Cyber Chase I saw it the most times and I liked it the most out of the four, and also in the series in general, and after rewatching it, I still love it and recommend it higher than Zombie Island but still not my favorite film from this series but still great and Phantom Virus absolutely pure evil :)
Terror time by skycycle in zombie island was my introduction to "modern" rock music and I have the 4 minute version in my RUclips music mix. my parents were teenagers in the 70s in their 20s in the 80s journey and the eagles were they're favorite bands and I played GTA vice city at like 6 and vrock was the station first time hearing maiden preist slayer Megadeth anthrax Tesla yes that was a band name long before muskrat was a thing and they're awesome. that is what made me want to play guitar just the opening riffs of madhouse and 2 minutes to midnight are incredible..... Scooby Doo and grand theft auto what a childhood.
Honestly, I always loved watching Scooby Doo and the Witch's Ghost when I was a kid and loved Thorn from the Hex Girls. Now that I'm 20, it's totally nostalgic, and it's amazing to rewatch it and it's other movies which even still gives me chill😱🥹👻
I credit zombie island with my lifelong love of horror
Same tbh
I’m sure that someone else has told you this but they’re putting out the movies on Blu-ray. Zombie Island and its sequel are the next release so I’m sure Witch’s Ghost and Alien Invaders are next.
Thats brilliant, such gorgeous animation deserves better quality media
Great job on this video you did so well!
SCOBERT DOO
WHEREFORE ART YOU
First video of yours I've ever seen but this was REALLY well done 👍👍
love the Danganronpa background music. What a vibe!
Unbelievably based taste
When I was watching the Witches Ghost for the first time, my mother informed me that we were related to Susannah Martin who was hung at the end the Salem Witch Trials. She was accused of tormenting Elizabeth Browne with her 'spirit.' But she had been taken to court MANY times before the trials had started, usually over land disputes or her being 'uncooperative.' They had been trying to take her land for years, and finally got it. She didn't even live in Salem at the time.
Yes I wish they went a bit more into the tragedy of the Witch Trials, which for all intents and purposes was a culling of anyone deemed unorthodox or simply disliked.
The dark historical context was one of the strongest parts of Zombie Island but faded from the series pretty quick
Also I cannot explain my hatred for CyberChase and Alien Invasion. Cyberchase was the ONLY one that would reliably come on TV, and I hated it. The quality was such crap compared to the previous three. The sound effects annoyed the crap out of me. That intro to the movie? Haunts me. I'd get pissed when I'd hear it.The ONLY redemption to Cyberchase was the arcade bit at the end when we get to see all the old villains. I had grown up watching all the old ones, so they were more special cameos than the rest of the movie, my mom was also pleasantly surprised to see these particular characters again. Alien Invasion was the defacto other one that would be on, and I also hated it. I think I just wasn't into the Alien theme, because I also still don't like the Spooky Space Kooks.
Okay, since you asked, I'll spill. My favorite iteration overall, is the OG 1969 Scooby Doo, Where are you? Following up, my favorite overall in quality, exposition, characters, and anything else you can think of, is Mystery Incorporated, 2010. However, immediately following that series, my next favorites is the run of "The New Scooby Doo Movies" from 1972. I also adore the Red shirt Shaggy genre, and "Scooby Doo Meets the Boos Brothers" and "Scooby Doo and the Ghouls School" were constantly competing for my favorite as a child. 1996, but raised by a 1969 Scooby Doo fan. (James Gunns movies exists within the universe, but also outside the universe for me. So I never count it as comparable material to the cartoon franchise, HOWEVER, they are my favorite MOVIES of all time. And I hate movies, I don't watch em. But I'm always down for Matthew Lillard and Buffy and Freddie Prince Jr. and the one from Legally Blonde shenanigan's. [Also, Freddie Prince Jr is a delight to follow on instagram, he recently bought tons of DND mini's and he's been painting them. Really makes his Psych cameo feel authentic XD])
Great video man. Keep it up!
Appreciate it!
These movies are the best of all time and my childhood favs best comfort movies for me
57:23 maybe cyber scoob degraded in our work to the point his fur turned a sickly grey and his mental capacity was diminished until he started being referred to as scooby dumb. He even has the same color collar.
Two Velma’s hugging each other? Priceless❤😊👍
As a Scoob fanatic I love people making videos on the straight to dvd and vhs classic films. These were so goated. Zombie island was definitely the best and alien invaders definitely the weakest but all four films are some of the series’ best entries
Thanks sm for watching 🙏
@@hassledvania thanks so much for making this man. I literally rewatch Ryan hollingers video on this all the time and now I have a second vid to rewatch when I want a dose of nostalgia. I appreciate the work that went into this a lot
I love this movie and its sequals lol great video! I subbed
Based Spider-Man India enjoyer
@@hassledvania you reconized my Spidey!!! You rock🔥🔥
The clockwork orange insert was beautiful
Cyber Chase is criminally underrated. It's better than Witches Ghost. The sight of modern Scooby and gang meeting old them and seeing them stuck in the same loop over and over. Seeing all the most iconic monsters from the past. That heart warming goodbye between the gang and digital them. It feels like a fair well to this quadrilogy. Like a swan song before we go into What's New which goes back to no real monsters.
Cyber Chase actually has a massive fanbase, which I gotta chalk up to nostalgia unfortunately
23:35 did you really just play philistine from no more heroes 2 desperate desolation, that song is my jam I recognise anywhere
Absolutely based taste
Love the use of Sonic Heroes music
Great game if you play Team Sonic and then stop
@hassledvania I played team dark and then stop
@@ZRtheHedgehog77 DONT KNOW HOW LONG IVE WAITED
AS THE EGGMAN WATCHES
Witch’s Ghost is awesome due to not just Tim Curry and the Hex Girls…but the fact that Throne is voiced by the great Jennifer Hale :3
I have more of a nostalgia attachment to Witch's Ghost-"YoU cAn'T sOlvE mE sO eAsiLy!" lives rent free in my brain at all times-but I rewatched both it and Zombie Island recently. Zombie Island is the better movie in the end from story telling to creepy vibes. But Witch's Ghost has it easily topped in detective work.
I've also been watching the TV shows I had aged out of by the time they aired live. I'm a millennial and watched What's New live, but always considered the older shows "Real Scooby-Doo" so to speak. What's New tried, and it's fine, but never really did find a way to stand out. Mystery Incorporated and Be Cool! both do this is spades, though. It's interesting to see how people rate the two shows, particularly in comparison to one another. Personally, I find Mystery Incorporated to be a *very* mixed bag. It has some of the best and worst episodes of Scooby I have ever seen. It's a shame that many people will praise its serialized story (and it does deserve praise, by no means am I saying it doesn't), but completely refrain to mention its issues with blatant misogyny and at times even racism. (See the Dandy Highwayman for the misogyny, Rick the Archeologist, the flandarization of Chinese culture in its "Mini Chinatown" episode, and the bizarre attempts to redeem actual conquistadors for the racism for reference, absolutely none of these things needed to be written down, animated, and put on television in my opinion.)
Be Cool! I think is the FAR more consistent show in terms of quality. Yes, the animation style is weird, but the gang don't have any of the weird and toxic dynamics that MI had, the humor is on point, and there aren't any blatantly offensive and unnecessary episodes. It doesn't ever hit the same high stakes or drama MI did, but doesn't try to do so either way. I think people expected more from it than what it was trying to do and kind of judge harshly for that. Personally, there's not a single episode of this show that actually makes me feel bad to watch. I cannot say the same about Mystery Incorporated. Velma's horrible toxicity all throughout Season 1 in MI kind of speaks for itself, regardless of the intent behind writing her character this way. Frankly, the sheer lack of diversity in the writing team shows in MI very badly when watching in the present day.
I'd really like to see a return to a serious, serialized story in a Scooby show with a real threat at some point. I just think it can plainly be done better than MI in terms of episodic content and consistency across run time. Particularly in its character writing.
Has my man invested in a new mic / setup / editing process, or do you just sound so crisp because I miss your face? x
Compression my boyo, its a LIFESAVER
IIRC these were pretty much the latest things produced by Hanna Barbera after their divergence from Cartoon Network Studios. So, really these movies, atleast the 1st 3, are a swan song of the legendary studio before total envelopment into WB Animation.
Ben had a lot of potential to be an intriguing villain if he was psychologically menacing to any of the descendants of people who were victims of Sarah Ravencroft and had a murderous reputation for silencing them along with descendants of the folks who turned Sarah over and testified against her during the trial. Especially when the elders of the village would condemn Sarah to be hanged.
I just wish we got a little more about him. He's SO much fun when he turns bad, but for most the film he's just pretending to be very plain lol
@@hassledvania Plus Tim Curry is a fan of the franchise.
The second movie awakened things in some people probably
I love these movies so much, Alien Invaders is literally my childhood, easily my favorite Scooby movie of all time. If I had to rank them, I’d probably say:
1. Alien Invaders
2. Zombie Island
3. Witch’s Ghost
4. Cyber Chase
But don’t get me wrong, Cyber Chase is better than almost all the movies that have come after it. These four were absolute masterpieces, and that’s what makes it so disappointing that immediately after Cyber Chase, they went *right* back to the traditional format. Like don’t get me wrong, I love the original Scooby-Doo, Where Are You, but damn…this new style was so good, I didn’t want it to end.
Lately, I’ve been thinking about what a 5th movie in this style would have been like…so I ended up writing a whole plot summary for it. It’s called “Scooby-Doo and the Curse of Atlantis”. I can share it here if anyone would like to see it!
I just got finished watching Scooby doo meets the boo brothers and Ghoul school. It brings me to a part of my childhood❤ Next will be Scooby doo and the thirteen Ghost, Scooby doo meets the hex girls, Scooby and Zombie Island and Scooby doo meets Kiss.
Alien Invaders is by far the best of the movies, imo.
Based and scoobpilled
Wow scooby-doo!? More like scooby-dont hate on this video
Watch me swing RIGHT in 💦
Great video as always with a lot of insightful comments and a thick dollop of giggles, keep it up!
I loved return to zombie island just because it was so obviously a ridiculous premise. Dismissing daphne as a reporter as an internship and deaging the cast, along with the unsolved mysteries page that Velma has. I really like the idea that to cope with the real genuine horror, Velma would have to disassociate from real monsters by latching onto a probable alternative. I don't think it retcons it but rather adapts it. It isn't a true sequel, and is more adjacent like mystery inc having the kid from 13 ghosts and scrappy statues.
In my opinion, even though Cyber Chase was a massive downgrade to the previous three films, I happened to like the film, even regarded it as one of my all time favourites, behind Zombie Island of course. I thought it was a pretty fun send off to the quadrilogy of films.
Zombie island is favorite move and the whats new scooby doo era
Well done my man! Will you do a video on the original show?
Thats not a bad idea! Thanks
Good video
Ironically, as a kid I preferred the latter two films to the former; I was a little to timid as a child, Zombie Island and Witch's ghost scared me too much
Understandable! They frightened me too as a wee lad but its fun to be scared :)
I liked Cyber Chase more than Alien Invaders tbh
For me from best to worst it’s
Zombie Island
Witch’s Ghost
Cyber Chase
Alien Invaders
That is the more common opinion amongst fans but Id reccommend giving Alien Invaders another go!
At 9:39 whats the original video with ghostface dancing?
All me baby
bro... live action scooby doo is NOT 'D' tier. That's a little harsh. Also, I'm incredibly biased with my nostalgia glasses... so... :P Great video!
The second is good! The first is just a bit rough hehe
28:16 Ben is what now?!?!!
YOU HEARD ME
Yeah, your coverage of Cyber-chase is way harsh. For instance, the intro was ominous and mysterious, but that didn't impact you much it would appear. And the colour saturation is the best in the series from my POV. The prior three reviews were terrific though.
My ranking: Cyberchase deserves to be right at the A-tier. Come fight me!
You really put the courage crossover in D?
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47:42 Incorrect. The other character was voiced by Bob Bergen who voiced Lupin the third in the 90s, not the hat man.
Pup was peek
Based pup enjoyer
Zombie island horrified me as a kid, like stopped watching it. I think something about the stuff that's usually fake being real
Totally. Like I said, having the gang be trope aware was a touch of genius to nail this element.
Was mooc the animators for all 4 of them??
Mook was the main animator for the first three yes! Cyber Chase they had to split duties with an unammed overseas animation studio due to last min script changes unfortunately.
@@hassledvania ok thank you! I knew the did the animation for Zombie Island but I didn't know about the other two. Although I've looked into Mook animations before and I haven't ever found anything that shows they're still in business, are they?
@andrewpareo8047 They dont seem to be unfortunately
23:26 song?
Philistine from No More Heroes 2! The version in the USA release, not the remix in the JPN one
You do realize that some of the kids in Ghoul School were literally only as young as 6 years old?
Yes. Dont google them.
@@hassledvania Why the hell did you? What's wrong with you bro?
My dude, you cant even search "Ghoul School" on google dot com, Twitter is a horrible place
@@hassledvania What does Twitter have to do with searching something up on Google?
Look man, Cyber Chase may be the worst one. That doesn't change the fact that the two songs are absolute bangers lol
Wish sceond was finished haha
I really loved cyberchase. Legend of the vampire better than that, no way. Cyber chase is way better.
I could see why people would prefer Cyber Chase, but LotV (Which also isnt good) is at least more comptently put together
At least the version of Velma in these films saw actually real monsters velma in return to zombie island though it was all fake
I think Return is a bit overhated. Theres this myth that it retcons the original, which it doesnt do. Though it is a very bland forgettable affair.
“Heck Girls”?
Scoobert doo and them
Was that a mine craft village voice
Brown bricks
Somebody doesnt like electronic music
Still prefer Cyber Chase over the others.
Yea idk about that
PUT SOME RESPECT ON THE PHANTOM VIRUS NAME 🙄
45:46 okay here me out
He got another one boys
No, Be Cool does not carry anything half as good as these four movies. Watch the first two shows.
If you get passed the art style, which is admittedly ass, theres a fun comedy show.
And I have seen the first two shows lol
I'm personally not interested in hearing anything NTTV.
Velma was Def awful but part of me kinda enjoyed it. What I didn’t like was the character assassinations and woke propaganda shoved down our throats. But a darker tone for Scooby was a cool idea. I just think the execution was terrible. Will I watch season 2? Prob but I hope they put the frickin dog in it.
I dont mind a dark Scooby Doo, like I said Scoobynatural was the perfect take on that concept
Velma was just the worst approach. The anti-Scoobynatural lol
I liked Scoob! It was riddled with Easter eggs!
You should look up their original plan and concept art for that film! Wouldve been very cool