Disney Teases "BIG IDEAS" For EPCOT! All Fluff or Real Stuff?
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In this Mickey Views Special Report, Brayden analyses Disney's recent teaser about EPCOT's Figment and Journey Into Imagination attraction. Looking at recent hints as well as headwinds facing Disney and their ability to invest in the theme parks. Brayden also covers Disney's recent company town hall event and the upcoming opening of Epcot's World Celebration gardens and Walt Dreamer's Statue. This is Mickey Views News, your source for Disney news!
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“Universal isn’t saying they’re going to do stuff, they’re doing it” Bingo 👍
Walt Disney was this way, he was already on the next six 6️⃣ projects while finishing his current one. Steve Jobs was like this 🎉
Exactly, they’re only trying to appeal to investors. They’ve done this before
Replayed that segment multiple times🌎🌎
Disney overpromising and under delivering. Universal doing the opposite it seems
@@ThatOnePat Universal hasn't done squat in the past 5 years. Velocicoaster is their only new ride. They've closed lands and rides. Disney has added new lands and many more rides, shows, restaurants, hotels, transportation options. Disney is opening a new area next month. Universal? Still squat. Dreams and hopes 2 years from now is all they're offering.
“Journey into Imagination” is something Imagineers SHOULD be able to hit out of the park! I mean, imagination is part of their NAME. It should be one of Disney’s must-see attractions.
Imagineering should be the sponsor’s of the pavilion. They add in a space to tell the story of the the company and have a space to show off there work and to have imagineers interact with park guests
They haven’t had any TRUE imagineering since the opening of Animal Kingdom in 1998 under the direction of Joe Rohde
@@swampsagacity4685Disney sea? Mystic Manor?
if they let imagineering go nuts, it'll be one of the most impressive things in a long time. we'll have to see how much free rein they get though because who knows these days. they should, though, because gosh it would be wonderful
My idea is still to do a version of MYSTIC MANOR with the Imagination pavilion. You replace Lord Mystic and Albert the monkey with Dreamfinder and Figment and off you go.
Great work!!! Agree 100%, Disney should invest on Figment’s IP and refurbish the Imagination Pavilion!! Still don’t understand why can’t they be creative developing original IPs for the parks! That adds uniqueness and more value to each park! Keep up the great work!!
1. Fear of failure
2. Most creatives don’t have a sense of originality
In that Figment social media teaser....Figment pays homage to Tony Baxter's plaque. I'd say,...bring Tony Baxter back as the master consultant to a brand new ride. He is the "father" of Figment and THAT would be a fan favorite move on Disney's part.
As much as I love and appreciate what Tony Baxter has done for Disney over the years, he also deserves to rest instead of get dragged into another project
@@bunniesbunniesbunnie - I bet he would love to. Just as a high level concept manager
I remember reading somewhere where he said the only time he'd return to Disney would be if he was given the chance to revert the ride to its original form. So maybe...
I think the best mode of action for Figment would be to gut the whole thing and replicate Mystic Manor with Figment. The idea of spontaneity seems very Figment. It's the imagination, lots to choose from, why be fixed to a track?
Right there with you. Personally, I don't believe anything Disney says anymore. If they actually build something new, then I will be surprised.
I don't understand why Disney cannot make that happen. Disney no longer needs outside sponsorship either to make it epic! "Journey into The Imagination sponsored by Disney". Maybe take some of the millions in profits that go into their executives pay every year and actually make something epic again.
The issue is Disney are extremely risk adverse and are more about attracting investment and attention to the company than they are about actually following through and delivering. Which is why much of what they talk about is blue sky possibilities and less about concrete plans. It’s also why Disney has become less about originality and more about exploiting existing IP.
The other issue is the fate of Reedy Creek Development Agency. Since the Government Take Over there has been an adverse effect on the area. It has become harder for Disney to do anything. We have been waiting months for permits where it used to take half that time.
Dreamfinder coming back would make everybody go completely bananas, even if they don't remember the ride, they've heard how fantastic it used to be!
Get ready for
Popcorn buckets!!!!!!!!!!!
Quickly touching on the MK, Im shocked Disney hasn't revisited the once green lit and announced but then cancelled Main St Theater. A Theater on Main St with a Broadway style show could add a good deal of capacity to the park. The plans are already done, just spend the $ to build it. Just a thought.
I'd love to see the original Figment ride return with Dreamfinder.
Please please please….
Or what about Mister Toads Wild Ride. I feel like they could do a whole new park just remaking old rides.
@@hadeees i agree. There are not only so many old rides, but superb rides in other countries that ought to be incorporated into Florida Disney World. Sinbad’s voyage in Tokyo Disneysea is one of the most enchanting experiences I’ve ever had. The Broadway-style show they feature in their NYC area is one of the best stage shows I’ve ever seen. And ticket prices are far lower than at Disney World.
I remember it well. You should have seen Horizons.
WE DEMAND HORIZONS BACK !!!!!!! HORIZONS !!! HORIZONS !!! MODERN HORIZONS NO IPS
Disney animation should make a movie about figment and try reallllly reallllly hard to make sure it’s a slam dunk. I love the idea of making movies from park IP, rather than making park attractions from movie IP. Like pirates and haunted
even if it isn't a movie they could do a series of short animated episodes where each episode showcases different aspects of imagination and the benefit being creative/imaginative can have and then use those shorts as jumping off points for modernizing/improving the current ride/imagination building.
There's already a movie in the works. It was announced a year ago.
Innovation is easy: teacups ride but you ride in coconuts with Moana theme! 😂
I don't care what Disney does any longer. Epic Universe opens within a year and a half. At that point, I will drop my WDW Annual Pass increase my Universal Annual Pass, and move on. I don't want to move on, but I would rather spend my time at Universal. The Disney Company is run so poorly at this point that I can't believe it's not being destroyed on purpose.
I am not sure annual passes will be available for Epic for the first year or two of operations.
@@themepark_experience Universal values it's Annual Passholders. I believe it will offer early and after hours visitation to the AP holders. They did this for Nintendo World in Hollywood.
Been talking with my dad about Epic Universe and I think that once it opens we will see a shift in park attendance from WDW. Currently, most visitors will come to FL for Disney and may spend a day over at Universal. Buy with the decline in quality from WDW and the opening of Epic Universe I predict people will begin coming for Universal and doing a day or two at Disney. With the exception of MK, and maybe Epcot, there just isn’t enough to do at the parks to justify a whole day at each. It will be interesting to see. Universal has really stepped up their game recently. Picking up Disney’s slack. Really excited to see how Epic Universe turns out. Will you be planning a trip down here to visit for its opening?
You’ve hit the nail on the head. Disney has walked away from their big differentiator - their tradition of thematic cohesion.
It annoys me that the new Epcot central plaza doesn't have any palm trees. It's a weird complaint but I feel like palm trees have always been a staple in Epcot's landscaping, especially in the plazas. The new landscaping doesn't feel very Epcot, it looks like a generic park or outdoor mall.
Good point! It bugs me that they put ‘regular’ trees ( now sure of their actual species) in front of Spaceship Earth/the entry plaza. They had palm trees there in opening day. Personally, I think the trees they have there now obstruct the view of Spaceship Earth when you enter the park. A little disappointing.
I think the park type look looks better than palm tree
Could we just grab a clone of Crush's Coaster from Paris and drop it in next to the Nemo theatre at Animal Kingdom? Fits the theme, and I'm fairly certain it would fit.
ya know what else would be great? updating the world showcase movies
putting something into vacant buildings in the parks
New innovative lighting (*like that’s on Spaceship earth) to light up the park @ night would really make Epcot pop and be more “futuristic” while not costing all that much.
Im so glad they are turning Animal Kingdom into an "Adventure" themed park where they could put rides thened to "Adventure". There's definitely nowhere else "Adventure" themed attractions would fit in at WDW. Its not like the Indy ride debuted at some sort of "Adventure Land"
Journey’s original chain-based track design was overly sensitive to loading disruptions, especially around the rotating Dreamfinder merge points. Modern trackless cars would fix that concern, make it ADA accessible, and “future proof” for new track/layout adjustments. Randomized pathing would add to repeat ride-ability as well, going along with Figment’s whimsy.
Honestly at the moment of what we have seen Universal has surpassed Disney with Epic Universe, Disney doesn’t create anything like they used too or what Epic universe is in regards to theming and an immersive experience and universal is building it right now
Epic Universe won't be a thing until 2 years from now.
@@brooksfire9580 actually less time than that they are ahead of schedule and should open early summer 2025, the point is everything that is being shown and All the progress photos coming out should scare Disney because everything will be new and innovative for the Orlando area and Disney won’t be able to get away with clone rides anymore like they are still trying to float with Indiana jones a ride itself that is already old and tron clone which took 5 years to build by the time Disney answers back it will be in the late 2020’s
@@adamp2384 Indiana Jones is not a ride at Walt Disney World. It's a show. TRON is brand new in the United States. Who has gone to Japan to see the other one, really. EPIC Universe won't open early 2025. It's lucky to open by November 2025. Of course, they could open early without everything done. That's usually how most theme parks are done. Get 50% of it done, open it. Then have grand openings of other things in the months and years later.
I have an Original Figment stuffed toy from my toddler days at EPCOT when the Original attraction was New! It goes with me every trip & goes in my room window.
when Eisner said they were looking at their competitors as they continued to expand WDW, that’s when things went down.. prior to that, Disney didn’t blink at Universal because they were no competition and Disney didn’t need to buy IPs to stay ahead because their own imagineers were that good..
and then they looked to the side instead of forward..
This really wouldnt be as much of a problem at Epcot if disney had maintained so many of their fantastic spaces like horizons, health and world of motion. Hotizons and WOM had huge rider per hour capacities and the Health Pavilion housed multiple fantastic attractions. Adding to that, the gutting of Journey was just the icing on a cake. It'll take huge financial investments just to repair the damage of what was essentially just neglect of the front end of the park.
I loved the original Journey into Imagination, but I wonder if the next overhaul couldn't be Figment and Dreamfinder as the guides to a new version of the Horizons attraction, adding a new scene about using one’s imagination as we create new horizons of tomorrow.
Great video as always!
If Disney is going to redo the Imagination pavilion, then they have to do it right… and by that, I mean bring back Tony Baxter to lead the project!
It’s not fluff, IT’S BS!! Believe it when I see it. You are saying facts sir. Thanks for the info and the video.
I would really REALLY love epic universe to succeed. I just think a lot of people look at stuff like Hagrid’s and Velocicoaster as the standard of what Universal does, even though they also LOVE a horribly boring screen ride. Hoping Epic Universe can kick Disney in the ass and get the whole of Orlando’s theme park scene on a whole new level!
I truly believe the lack of new attractions is due to the layoffs at Imagineering in 2020. We all know it takes a few years to fully develop an idea B4 it's ready to be green lit/ announced. I think those layoffs created a void in new projects. The last 2 years it seems they been trying to develop the new ideas. I'm hopeful that D23 next year we will finally get at least some new announcements.
Lack of attractions since 2020? 2020 - Mickey and Minnie's Runaway Railway, 2021 - Ratatouille, 2022 - Guardians of the Galaxy, 2023 - Tron, Moana Journey of Water, 2024 - Epcot World Showcase, Tiana's Bayou Adventure ... Disney releases a new ride/experience every year, while Universal does nothing for 5 years. Disney even had their year long experiment with the Star Wars Galactic Starcruiser.
@@brooksfire9580 I'm looking ahead at the void created by the 2020 layoffs. I'm discussing upcoming attractions that are in the development phase or undergoing new construction. The attractions I mentioned were initially announced in 2017 with plans for all of them to be operational by 2021, coinciding with Disney's 50th anniversary celebration. However, the only exception was the revamp of Splash Mountain.
Disney opted to postpone their opening to stagger new releases because they didn't have additional offerings ready. Typically, Disney engages in extensive behind-the-scenes work on new projects for several years before announcing and commencing construction. Construction usually takes around 2-3 years to complete.
The layoffs in 2020 resulted in a halt in the commencement of any new construction projects since that time. Instead, the focus shifted to completing ongoing projects. Consequently, if Disney announces a new ride today, it won't be ready for several years due to this gap in new construction.
Disney normally has a few things under construction so something is always new. The 2020 void has caused a lack of current projects under construction to be ready any time soon.
Once the reskin of Splash is open in 24, nothing else will be under construction. Since new rides take a few years, I would not be shocked to hear about a few more reskins to get us past the void. A reskin can have a quicker build time to allow for somethin new in 25.
Disney needs to break ground FAST to have any big new rides open by 26.
I hope Disney stops messing around when it comes to these blue sky park concepts and such. It’s time to make these things a reality! Great video tonight! Always hate when they end
Don't forget, a Figment movie was also announced to be in the works a year ago.
And more niche, but he was also added to the free to play racing game (with predatory monetization practices as always with free to play games) Disney Speedstorm, with Dreamfinder and SMRT-1 as "crew" characters a few months ago.
Thanks for the update Brayden!!
Thanks for what you do in keeping us update with all things Disney. Keep up the great work :)
All Fluff, Disney has become a Ghost Company.
I’m not getting excited about anything Disney does until I’m actually standing in the queue
I’ve been coming to WDW from the U.K. since I was 6 as I am blessed with family in Florida. I am in my 40’s and I remember the original Journey into Immigration and being obsessed with Figment. If they bring back an updated version of the original, I will for sure visit EPCOT when I come to check out Epic Universe (if Disney can pull their finger out)!
I'm glad that you are big disney fan but still willing to look at the company with a critical eye with out bashing or over praising. Also long time subscriber since back in the "younger days", glad you stuck with the channel.
THE BEST Disney channel out there! Thanks Brayden!
Nice 🔥🔥 and I’m glad it’s about nostalgia that’s what brought me to your channel years ago
Cautious optimism. I road this ride when it opened and loved all of the special effects. It was beautiful.
At this point - I would rather that they do nothing and wait to have new executives in place and have new projects...I don't like their current vision and ideas for the parks and the new projects that were done these last decade were rather lackluster...Time to pass the torch Bob And Josh
Also Germany and Japan, have built huge ride buildings with nothing in them, and then the UK has room too.
Another great video!!
Epcot needs world showcase updated BADLY it can use more attractions/shows/culture etc feels like they are just placeholders for the festivals now
Growing up, I was always a universal fan! I didn’t start falling in love with Disney until I had kids of my own 😊
I do not know....... I sorta like Cinderella's arm being torn off and held by Dopey as the two of them dance around.... The grin on Dopey's face is priceless as he proudly holds Cinderella's broken arm.
Raise food prices and cut portion sizes!!!
Critics are already commenting on the new statu of Walt to be placed in Epcot. It seems they went with a bland bench with Walt sitting there. The back of the bench is tall obscuring Walt a little bit from otherwise should have been a clear view from all sides. I bet it was the same imagineer, on drugs, who designed the same sundial logo in the center of the plaza area with the off center planters and white posts....
No one can tell for sure what the hell Disney is thinking. Disney is a very complex business entity and we, has outsiders, do not have any idea what goes on behind the walls. Probably a lot of disputes and going back and forth. I find it interesting howe Sir Brayden for a split second was actually praising Bob Chapek.... WOW!!!!! I still say Chapek was a scape goat for Disney's troubles. All this crap did not start with him.....
I am not a theme park designer by any means, but Disney really has to bring back the high level of maintenance and care it use to be known for.
I have no idea why Epcot Communicore Hall & Plaza is not complete by now...... They are not building a skyscraper........
Sadly, even bringing Journey to Imagination back to the original configuration is going to cost Disney millions more than expected: If they go above the threshold for maintenance of legacy infrastructure as set by FL law, they will have to bring the building up to current code for amusement/public facilities. And Disney has absolutely NOT been doing incremental renovations of their facilities to keep them up to code. Heck, they haven't been doing routine maintenance just to keep things painted and functional. You can bet that bring up the safety systems alone, like fire suppression, air handling/exhaust for fumes, etc., is going to run into 7 figures. (not including the decimal points). Same situation applies to Carousel of Progress, which is a major reason why we only see things like new sweaters and minor housekeeping, and not (for instance) a replacement of the old pneudraulic/hydraulic animatronics with new, reliable electronic versions.
I'm HOPING that Disney will spring for the extra bucks needed to do the job right and bring Journey back to its original glory. But the cynic in me expects that we'll get a new paint job, maybe power-washing the glass, and a range of "Festival Sweaters" for Figment to wear to fit in with whatever Epcot is hawking that season.
Walt isn't centered because they took into account we will be sitting next to him to take pictures.
Disney has clearly lost their mojo and Universal is taking full advantage of the chaos to dominate the Theme Park industry.
What I wish Disney would do is just to "remaster" their classic rides. Basically give Journey into Imagination (the original) the good 'ol HD remaster.
i think adding a inside out 3d show with AA's and projection mapping next door will be a nice compliment to a redone figment ride
Amazing job 👏
Figment is a great character. Would love to see this attraction re-imagined and updated.
So Iger is going to slowly upend the theming of Animal Kingdom as well? Good grief!
Would love a WALLE overlay to Living with the Land. Lets make that happen!
Disney is now a "mature" company as is the Parks division. Mature companies tend to be risk averse. Hence why Apple languished after Steve Jobs first departure and was revitalized after his return. He brought back the entrepreneurial spirit. A lot of what we are seeing at WDW is the lack of vision from the entrepreneurial spirit of prior years.
Thanks Brayden!
Good stuff!
Universal is building Epic Universe, the smaller park elsewhere, the permanent Vegas attraction. Disney has...ideas.
Don’t forget they’ve also given us the Hat Box Ghost as well 😉🤣
Figment is great. I loved Dream Finder. I loved this attraction in its original form. Dump Eric Idle. Reunite Dream Finder and Figment, and let's see where this new journey takes us.
Fascinating to see the figment track changes from the original
YUP UNIVERSAL IS DOING STUFF!
It would be amazing if Disney actually renovated Journey into something that pays homage to the original with new tech. Even more so if they demo mission space and build a full size space pavilion attached to Space 220 with a New Horizons ride aimed at space.
I wish they would bring the long promised Mary poppins attraction to the uk pavilion at Epcot.
Great video thanks again 🙂
Watch it just be a new piece of food like purple popcorn or something like that lol 😂
I’ve noticed they are not committing anything about Florida Theme Parks specifically when they talk about this $60B. Florida expansion is on hold until the Florida business and political environment are more favorable to Disney. My guess is that you’ll see the other non-Florida parks get something started first.
Agreed
Most of the money is going to Shanghai and Hong Kong. Universal is spending 8 billion on Epic Universe and is still building new attractions in Hollywood, Orlando, Las Vegas, Texas and now Europe.
@@theseamazingplaces DeSantis has poisoned the Florida well for Disney. Universal does not struggle under such legal and political burdens.
@@birbluv9595 all he did was make them pay taxes lol
@birbluv9595 Stop with the political garbage. Disney's problems have nothing to do with Desantis. Nobody stopped them from expanding their parks since Animal Kingdom was built twenty years ago. Taking five years or more to build a new attraction is unacceptable. The Disney Company has dumped ten billion dollars into Shanghai and Hong Kong when those parks make them almost nothing. This is about business, and Disney has done a poor job managing their business.
Figment and bing bong are perfect match for update
Disney is in no financial position to spend what is needed to compete with Universal’s new park.
Look at Polynesian. What used to be an original themed hotel. That new DVC is an eyesore. Complete joke. Stay at the four seasons, and then go to grand Floridian, the service is nowhere near the same. Polynesian is the same price and now you have to stare at an eyesore and can’t even walk the grand Floridian because of the ridiculous construction. That’s their solution to getting cheaper debt. Sell the timeshares and get instant cash. But they don’t realize is the theming is what separates them and transforms you when you go there and stay on property. Now that is all going away.
Meanwhile over at Epic.....
I loved the dream finder concept ride
Watch the announcement will be painting the imagination pavilion rose gold
The center - of EPCOT seems a statue and nothing burger. Planters and bushes? PUH-lease Figment - er - good Figment! and Dreamfinder. Perfect for a trackless ride.
"if we can dream it, we can do it." - Walt Disney
He doesn't say which themes parks, but we darn well known the moneyis going to Paris and Shanghai
I don’t think anything will happen with Figment until box office receipts are in from Seth Rogan’s production company’s version.
Hi Brayden! Where can I buy the t-shirt you’re wearing? The logo is perfect 👍🏼
EPCOT has been behind construction walls for FOUR years and has delivered very few promises.
Is it possible that there is a fight for specific construction crews? The best quality contractors construction workers may be tied up at Universal so Disney has to wait. There could be. Shortage of top standard craftsmen available to exclusively work on Disney projects.
@@enagreco3280Except that Disney had a TON of construction workers and imagineers at one point years ago. Now suddenly there's the excuse of , "We can't find any workers because of Universal." I'm not buying that bag of goods.
Testing the waters for Dreamfinder? Did I miss the part where people aggressively campaigned to have him removed in the first place? Let's take something people love away and then be so arrogant to ask if people would actually want it back at some point.
Disney, Where are the lights on the Castle!!!
Not only Epic universe but you also have the small regional park in Frisco Universal is making. Then you have the Matel park as well as American Heartland. Disney has sat to the side for to long investing in things like Shanghai while ignoring the ones in the states. They would be smart to build a place outside of place like San Antonio with the American Park they killed that would have gone in the NE.
Hallelujah! Please please please restore the original Journey into Imagination!! It’s long overdue! They didn’t know a good thing when they had it!!!
They had better not do anything to “The Seas with Nemo and Friends”. That ride is my favorite of all time.
May Jesus bless you all and lead you to Him!
Yep big talk and give you nothingburger or at most a flowers bed big stuff.
I love Disney, but they can't even seem to maintain their existing properties. Not to mention, EVERY park has severely under utilized real estate that needs to be more creatively managed. Until they address both of these issues, I am not too hyped about the promise of expansion.
Why would Disney expand the parks when they will not spend money to keep the bathrooms clean.
I saw the final performance of Kitchen Kaberet. I think they should bring it back.
"And if they want to redesign the Imagination pavilion, I'm ready to go, I'll come right back!" - Tony Baxter in September 2021
Disney has been teasing Dreamfinder for years, mostly with merch and a couple of appearances st D23. Like you said, ill believe it when I see it.
I will say it yet again. Promising expansions and improvements in hopes to raise the stock price to keep the shareholders off their backs. It keeps happening over and over
Also, Tony Baxter said he'd come out of retirement to redo Journey into Imagination.
“And what about science??” Pity they can’t figure out some way to make large sums of money outside of theme parks, like a movie properties for instance.
SOUNDS LIKE ALL FLUFF!
It would take Disney 10 years to build a new restroom.
I remember the original journey to the imagination, and it was really quite amazing. This current one is such a disappointment.
If it’s Iger in charge(which it is) they will probably be announcing a movie and maybe a revamp of Journey into Imagination
I worked for a division of Eastman Kodak in the 1980s and 1990s. When digital photography came along, management was desperately searching for something to replace the cash cow of film and developing. Competition from Fuji Film cut into their business before digital, so they were struggling for years. Other employers had donation-matching programs where, if an employee donated to a worthy nonprofit, the company would match the donation - but never Father Yellow. I was not at all surprised when their sponsorship of the Imagination Pavilion ended, and the Kodak photo-spot signs disappeared. It’s a shame.
"you can talk the talk but can you walk the walk"...that is the question
Disney hasn’t invested 60 cents in parks