Yeah, that was neat, almost went right by my head. Its either that brief 70's Spiderman that was on tv or it was the Japanese Spiderman that had a giant robot.
gotta love someone who is paid to say the controller is good despite this being the worst controller on the market for a pro controller. This guy completely ignores all the flaws such as a massive dead zone on the sticks and the fact that the controller turns on and off whenever it wants to
You can tell that this guy is a shady arrogant fat bastard. He probably thinks he is so smart, talking as fast as he can, when he can’t even enunciate words properly.
Yeah no 150 is the price of an Xbox Elite Controller. Also you already know Scuf allows you customize the controllers. So the standard prize of a SCUF is always $200
NabilRider555 still not a reason. The Xbox controller is overpriced too. The fact that you could buy a badass mouse and keyboard with that amount is not cool. What materials are they using to warrant a $200 to $150 price? Like I said $120 is a good price as it allows it to be 50% more expensive but also have reason to be that much.
NabilRider555 then again I haven’t been in the console gaming scene for a while. I just think $200 is absurd for a controller that will eventually have problems like most do.
@@johnhanson5527 if you ever thought that gaming accessories especially controllers are gonna be cheap especially pro controllers that uses premium materials to build then what part of the world do you live in cause that's delusional
am upset with SCUF customer service. I pre-purchased the control back in July and it was supposed to release on 31 August. A couple days before that they pushed it to 25 September, now on release day they push it to 6 October. How is it the people who actually pay for this control are the ones getting screwed. Seems like all the RUclipsrs got their free one already
i couldn't agree more. i ordered mine in July too, Went yesterday to gamestop and was told they have not idea when it was going to be released..Asked if i wanted a refunded.
I literally got mine just after work. And believe it or not, GameStop is honoring when you actually pre-ordered it. They are definitely going in waves. There were 4 pre-orders in my store where I was the first of two that came in. I also ordered a second faceplate and button kit 3 days ago which of course wasnt in. But just give it time. I put money down back in July if it helps to get a timeline for expectation.
Received mine (that I preordered long ago) the other day. I’m really not happy with it at all, if I’m being honest. First of all, it feels cheap. I feel like I’m going to break it by just using it. Compared to the Xbox Elite, it feels like a cheap toy you buy at the dollar store. Second, the paddles underneath are stiff and tight. They’re not easy to use, which sucks because that was one of the main reasons I wanted this. Third, wireless is what I prefer because I’m a casual gamer. If you want to use a mic and talk with friends, you HAVE to play wired. It’s not possible to use audio functions AND play wirelessly. Finally, when charging the controller, it turns itself on every time. And if I have my PS4 in rest mode, it turns the PS4 on as well. It doesn’t matter if I’m charging it thru the PS4 or thru a USB adapter, after about 9.5 mins (I clocked it) it would turn itself on. This is an issue I actually contacted SCUF about, as I can’t imagine this is the way it’s intended to operate. I want to like this controller, but I can’t help but feel I overpaid for something I’m just not going to like that much.
Having just got my Vantage just a few days ago, I want to give my two cents on the thing. I haven't been able to find many reviews that actually point out the flaws of the thing, so if you want to give my quick review a read, here goes: I regret buying it. That's the short answer. It feels VERY cheap. It comes with a bunch of plastic interchangeable parts that all feel like they're going to break within a month or two of usage and the entire thing feels cheap in your hands. The wireless cuts out and you can't use a mic without connecting a micro usb to the ps4. Yeah, I get that they explicitly told everyone the mic wouldn't work without being wired up, but it's still such a baffling design decision. The buttons.... Oh god the buttons.... The d-pad has to be the stiffest thing I've ever used when I compare it to ANY other controller I've ever used, by far the worst d-pad I've ever seen on a controller. The SAX buttons on the other hand are fairly light, but because of your index finger position, you find yourself hitting them accidentally which is just frustrating. But by far, the absolute worst thing about the controller is how OBNOXIOUSLY loud the paddle button's clicks are. Seriously, these things click so damn loudly that it's genuinely distracting. The triggers are also very stiff for some reason and really don't feel great to use. They also added little plastic "quick trigger" pull... things that I'm convinced are going to break off within a few months. There's also a lot of people that seem to have very wildly odd thumbstick tracking, and I'm no exception. It feels like the DPI for the thumbsticks just randomly jumps up to 11 at the weirdest times, making you over shoot whatever you were aiming at. Now, on to the pros (unfortunately, the pros list is very short)... The size makes it fit very well in the hand, and if you have larger hands like I do, then the offset thumbsticks will feel great. And it comes with a very nice braided micro-usb cable. That's really about it. From all the complaints I've read, I would highly recommend steering clear of this controller until they fix a lot of these issues. I assume a lot of them stem from having an insane number of preorders and trying to fulfill demand ASAP, but it really, REALLY isn't worth the price. It really does feel like a cheap knock-off controller you can buy off amazon that will crap out on you after a month of use. And believe me, I was super excited for this controller. As soon as I saw it, I thought it'd be a PS4 version of the Elite controller or a competitor for the Razer controllers. Don't be duped by a lot of these youtubers or reviewers that clearly have an incentive to promote this controller. Wait until Scuf fixes the damn thing, but even then I'd still say be wary. If you got yours and it works perfectly, then that's great, but with the delays in shipping and the poor quality of the product, a lot of customers aren't very happy with Scuf right now, myself included. (EDIT: fixed some grammar, and added some points I had forgotten.)
@@bays_310 Honestly, I can't say. I've never used the Nacon controller. But what I did do was just get the collective minds strike pack for the paddles. It's a way cheaper alternative to buying either of these controllers if you want them for the paddles. Unfortunately, it just doesn't seem like there's not any good third party controllers for the ps4 or xbox, aside from maybe the Razer controllers, but they're just as expensive (though at least you know you're getting a good quality item).
@@esrinne Don't even try the vantage yet. Not until they fix the problems I highlighted in my original comment. Which, unfortunately, it seems like Scuf likely won't fix. I've heard good things about the Infinity Pro, but I have yet to try it myself. Again, my biggest problem with the Vantage is mainly the build quality. It really does feel cheap in the hand and I just can't recommend such an expensive controller for the price. Every part of it feels cheap and feels like it will break within a year of buying it. For me personally, I hate the flat paddles that Scuf uses. They're not comfortable and I find them hard to rapidly press if I need to. Plus what little experience I've had with Scuf, their paddles seem to click excessively loudly. Honestly, if you don't mind having a wire connected, I usually recommend the Collective Minds Strike Pack for the PS4 controller (as mentioned in my previous comment). It's cheaper, and the two paddles are placed really well although I did opt to get the long paddles for my large hands. The only real downside is having to be wired. But other than that I always recommend it over some of these insanely priced third party controllers.
Thanks cuz i was was thinking of switching controllers from nacon to razor or scuff but tbh from what i see id rather have a £70 controller thats better than a £200 Oh yeah and the customisable sticks are huge and it doesnt feel cheap apary from the small little things where u adds ur weights or take some off they kinda wiggle in there if u move them in a certain way (un noticable while playing) the only bad side (for me!) Is that u cant have it wireless which is a small problem
I dont see why they didn't just take an official ps4 controller and modify it? It already works great and ive seen tons of modified official ps4 controllers that seem to work a whole lot better than the pile of scuf. This Scuf is all hype and no deliver
GameStop isn’t carrying them. I’ve called every store near me and have had it preordered for months and every GameStop I go to even the one I preordered from don’t have them. Only sponsored people have these controllers. Scuf doesn’t appreciate their customers.
If you ordered them earlier this month, you should get them tomorrow. I checked and verified shipments earlier last night. The October slate for release are for people who preordered yesterday and beyond
I emailed scuf about gamestop filling preorders yesterday and was told that they shipped all orders to gamestop last week. My gamestop manager told me he spoke to his DM and they have them in the warehouse. Should have them (preorders) in store some time this week.
Glad to finally see a vantage review by someone who is not sponsored by scuf. I liked how you did this review, subbed and going to tune back in the future!
I personally like the symmetrical analog sticks on the bottom because it allows you to press the D-Pad at the same time that you're running with the left stick. Necessary for games like Fortnite or Overwatch.
@@peqbox I saw you before too... I think you said that your Scuf Vantage was arriving tomorrow land lucky bastard to the youtuber lol. Btw can you tell me when is the Scuf Vantage arriving? Since I checked Gamestop and they delayed the date to 10/6/18
SirSwirll well the reason I say that the ps4 is better balanced is that not all games will required the analog, fighting games for example, are terrible with analog while a d pad makes them much more conformable. The Xbox style is perfect for shooters but not so good on other styles.
The gamepad design is awesome but its too expensive. However I do love the extra buttons it has and hope both Sony and Microsoft puts more buttons in their next generation consoles gamepads.
@@hungsolo8992 I agree, I bought one too and returned it. I bought the Nacon Revolution after I got my money from scuf back, it's better in Quality and Handling. Except the "on the fly" paddle configuration, the Nacon is the better choice. I can't say anything about others like the Razer for example, because I didn't owned one.
I have been using Scuff Infinity for about year now. I just purchased Razer Raiju Ultimate. 1. Quality - The Razor build quality is better. It does not feel cheap as Scuff. 2. Setting - Razor setting is much easier. Mobile app lets you to create profiles easily. When playing you can change profiles using buttons on the controller. I also prefer the Razors Trigger Stop Switches over Scuff. Changing thumbsticks and D-pad is also way easier with Razor. 3. Buttons - well I can tell you that the buttons on Razor makes a huge difference. I would even say that this is the major advantage of this controller. The Razor's buttons have super fast feedback which is definitely noticeable in the game. No more hit and miss as with Scuff. 4. Feel - I think that my hands have to get used to this new controller. I would not be objective to say that Scuff feels better. Of course it feels better if you are used to it. There is nothing extremely uncomfortable right now, so I think that its just matter of time to get comfortable with it. 5. Accessories - I like the fact that it comes with everything, thumbsticks, D-pad, USB cable. When spending so much money, controllers should include all the accessories.
I'm curious about this, though I feel like I'd like the impact better! Though a good way to make the standard dualshock feel great is to simply buy the Chin Fan brand silicone skin, some thumb grips and cheap Click on TRIGGER extenders! My dualshock feel bigger and so much better! I've never taken the skins off since! I highly recommend this option fellow gamers!
This controller defeats the entire purpose of a DualShock controller for me, I don't have small hands but I still prefer the ergonomics of the DualShock, I find the Xbox controllers to be uncomfortable and I don't like the asymmetrical design, either. DualShock. Had to say it one more time.
@@epictroy yes. He's a normal people who desires a controller that feels nice to him, Not an elitist that probably buys what is said to be the best. Gtfo with your casual shit .
I'm a ps4 player and only plebs and casuals will make fun of a xbox controller. The people that know their stuff will admit that the xbox controller is the better option
I got that joke lmao i'm surprised a sony fan didnt give u negative backlash, mabye they know its true. Watch them say this co troller trumps the dual shock now that would be funny. Anything xbox do is wack but when playstation copies it its great smh
If you don't play competitively, why would you buy *any* controller? This isn't meant for everyone. Casual players don't need any of these features. Competitive, Pro or "hardcore" (I fucking hate that term) players can get a lot of use out of one of these.
Ashutosh Joshi Well I would never want a Nintendo product. Why would I play Mario? I’m not 5. I bought a scuf vantage a couple days ago because it will make me better at fortnite and other shooter games in the future.
Those six extra buttons should become the new standard for the next generation. It would be nice for devs to have extra buttons to use for different styles of gameplay.
Buy this controller.. I determine that myself. Don't think this is a honest review cause i only hear what is great and awesome about this controller. Are you getting paid by scuf??
You still haven't talked about Nacon's budget monster of a PS4 controller, Kevin... (please, PLEASE do a video about it. I love the production quality on your videos, and the Nacon Wired Compact Controller is so sexy)
I keep looking at that scuff controller and then looking at my hands and it doesnt matter what angle i look at them, my hands are almost identical in finger and thumb placement. So why are the stick in different positions on the pad? It doesnt make sense
I have always played with a DualShock but I got one of these because of the 6 remappable buttons plus all of the other stuff amenities that you get on there other controllers it wasn't made for Xbox nerds to feel more welcome when they come to PlayStation
I have a Vantage and it's plagued with problems. Deadzones in the sticks, Bluetooth not working, buttons not staying remapped. They'll need to recall them and work out the bugs.
What i'm saying is they're selling you an xbox controller for your ps4 why tf would i buy this when i already have an xbox and xbox elite controller. At least the ds4 layout would make it authentic to the ps brand I dont need more xbox controllers
Honestly the main reason why I bought it is because it’s similar to the Xbox one controller just wish we could take out the trigger things off in the back like the elite controller for the Xbox
So when you buy one of these controllers you have to tell the companies what buttons you want to do what ahead of time, u cant just program them different whenever you want?
I got maybe a stupid question. Can you remap the butons so that 1 button does 2 things? For example when playing a racing game, can you remap the buttons so that when you downshift it also gives a dot of trothle? I know it sounds dumb but i got no experience with scuff controllers...
How to make the PS4 controller feel better, make it feel more like an Xbox controller. Lol. The PS4 controller is actually pretty good but it still doesn't compare to the current Xbox controller in my opinion.
@@zonzore The Switch controller is the best imo, only thing holding it down is digital ZR-ZL trigger buttons. Xb360 is definitely more comfortable that Xb1 but has no gyro sensors. Playstation controllers are just trash, all of them. I had to get a Nacon controller just use the PS4 without getting cramps in my left thumb.
I’m new to scuf products and I have a question: could you make it so your paddle and your X work simultaneously? Essentially having two “x buttons” working at the same time? I know that’s a possibly feature with battle beavers but is it possible on a scuf?
The only thing I like about the vantage it’s the function of physical customization appearance. Other than that, I think the nacon revol is de best pro ps4 controller I’m saying this although I don’t own any pro controllers and instead own 4 different colors of dualshock 4s
I play a lot of rainbow six siege. I notice a BIG difference in lag with controller vs the DualShock. I only play wired and ADS is very slow. If I turn my sensitivity up to 100 there is no difference. Need help!
@BarcrestReplayers Its not an official Playstation controller. But it is licensed by Sony. However, I got some hands on with it earlier this summer, and I can say that your assumption is correct. It is absolutely a *very* well manufactured controller. I can't speak on it's longevity, since its literally only just coming out. But, my first impression from handling is that it does not feel like a typical scuf product.
Yeah but. How good is the speaker compared to the original ps4 controller? I like how some games use that gimmick, but the sound quality is always bad so I end up turning it off.
I hate the Xbox layout with the burning passion of a thousand fiery suns, all going supernova simultaneously. Otherwise, this does look like a good controller. One that I won't touch with an eleven and a half foot pole, but that is personal preference.
Actually a lot of tests showed that wireless is faster that wired when comparing controllers. It was done with original xbox, ps and nintendo ones, not with 3rd party though
@@truthhurts9220 yeah ds4 dpad is trash i agree. Massive step back with over sized plastic. Shoutout to X1 for using Nintendo official dpad! And that cant be beat
Why aren't paddles in the back just the standard for controllers nowadays? It just seems more convenient to have those buttons so you wouldn't have to move your thumb away from the stick.
Both of my hands are very similars .. What is good at my right hand also is to my left hand, I just can't understand asymetric controllers.. And I tried.. it was so painfull and uncomfortable.. in up position the left stick is just some millimeters from the left triggers! Just cannot understand.. but perhaps am I not normal with two mostly Identical hands..
I’ve had this controller for less than a month and I’ve been using it to play blackout. I’ve configured some of the back buttons to other buttons. It was pretty simple to learn the controller I didn’t read the manual but I got it down. The only down side is within less of a month of using this controller the left stick is kind of messed up. When I click down on it to make my character sprint it’ll make my character sprint for a little then it’ll stop after a second or two. Or if my character is moving forward it’ll all of a sudden make my character walk when I’m trying to sprint. You can only connect a wired headset to the controller only if the controller is wired to the PS4. If the controller is on Bluetooth mode the wired headset won’t work. You’ll have to use a Bluetooth headphone
@@matttxxs scuf purposely did the xbox design to ensure this controller was perfect..... tbh ps4 controllers and the design is terrible compared to xbox... I'm a ps4 player
Honestly I'm gonna be sticking to Aim Controllers personally. They are a better alternative to SCUF, and while are still a heavily modified Dualshock 4, I don't mind that since they beat SCUF in some areas. First the AIM 3.0 Paddles are now offered in a 4 Paddle configuration, which can be remapped by simply holding the touch pad for three seconds, and in my opinion are more comfortable than the SCUF Paddles. The AIM Paddles are closer to handles of the controller, which is what I prefer. Second, since it's a modified Dualshock 4, the sticks can be the same shape as a Dualshock 4, or you can also choose to have an Xbox One stick on a Dualshock 4. Changing the sticks is also very easy, as you just to pull the top of them off, and put the new stick on. The sticks can be purchased in different colors as well. The AIM Grip is also a bit more pronounced in my opinion, and it actually covers the whole controller. One small but important detail is that Aim Controllers allow you customize the color of the D Pad and the buttons separately, which SCUF for seemingly no good reason doesn't. You can also get the Smart Triggers, which turn the triggers from analog to clicky buttons. Maybe it's just a minor thing, but I prefer the shape of the Dualshock 4. Xbox One is comfortable, but a bit big for my hands. Aim Controllers also allow you to add your logo to the controller if you so choose. The price of the AIM Controller is a bit cheaper than SCUF, at $186 fully loaded, or $150 for everything I wanted on my controller. Bottom line, I'll be sticking to Aim Controllers for a while,since it's what I prefer. This is mostly since they use a lot of original Dualshock 4 parts, instead of they're own analog sticks like SCUF.
Just get the collective minds striker pack. It gives you two extra buttons on the back ergonomically placed and a bunch of other useful features such as mods for auto run (god I am glad I don't have to hold down L3). It's wired but you can still use wired headsets.
The real test will be how long it lasts people who play high input games, as most complaints concerning this make is the longevity/build quality that doesn't justify the price.
I just want a controller with more durable joysticks.. The L3 joystick keeps going on me.. I play FPS’s and I’m constantly running around. With Apex Legends I’ve bought another normal PS4 controller.. but I refuse to buy another regular controller. I also have big hands.
Good video Kevin I wish you do a video on the best controllers for people with wrist problems like carpal tunnel and de Quervain etc. please like guys so Kevin and his team can see it
Mine got a horrible drift within 1 week on both sticks so did my buddy streamers. Also the trigger stops came insanely loose where you can't use them. Still waiting to send it back not sure if I even wanna use it. Plus all the extra attachment extra sticks don't fit they catch at the bottom like they need to be a hair skinny near the bottom rounded part.
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Can you do a Spider-Man gameplay video?
Yeah, that was neat, almost went right by my head. Its either that brief 70's Spiderman that was on tv or it was the Japanese Spiderman that had a giant robot.
Xbox controllers are Comfortable..now Obviously Play Station steal Xbox controller design...F**K PLAY STATION
I'm from Myanmar. By some Miracle if I won, will you ship it to my country? I feel like every giveaway avoid Shit Countries like mine. :)
gotta love someone who is paid to say the controller is good despite this being the worst controller on the market for a pro controller. This guy completely ignores all the flaws such as a massive dead zone on the sticks and the fact that the controller turns on and off whenever it wants to
You can tell that this guy is a shady arrogant fat bastard. He probably thinks he is so smart, talking as fast as he can, when he can’t even enunciate words properly.
flipwarrior - spoken like a god
Yeah ya can't trust this guy
flipwarrior agreed
Thanks for saving me and others some minutes, your loss of time was for a greater cause and you and others who do this will never be forgotten. 🤝
$200 is way too much for a controller man. I think $120 would’ve been fair.
Yeah no 150 is the price of an Xbox Elite Controller. Also you already know Scuf allows you customize the controllers. So the standard prize of a SCUF is always $200
NabilRider555 still not a reason. The Xbox controller is overpriced too. The fact that you could buy a badass mouse and keyboard with that amount is not cool. What materials are they using to warrant a $200 to $150 price? Like I said $120 is a good price as it allows it to be 50% more expensive but also have reason to be that much.
NabilRider555 then again I haven’t been in the console gaming scene for a while. I just think $200 is absurd for a controller that will eventually have problems like most do.
@@johnhanson5527 if you ever thought that gaming accessories especially controllers are gonna be cheap especially pro controllers that uses premium materials to build then what part of the world do you live in cause that's delusional
@@johnhanson5527 that's why you should try the controller first. If you don't like, return it. Get a full refund.
am upset with SCUF customer service. I pre-purchased the control back in July and it was supposed to release on 31 August. A couple days before that they pushed it to 25 September, now on release day they push it to 6 October. How is it the people who actually pay for this control are the ones getting screwed. Seems like all the RUclipsrs got their free one already
i couldn't agree more. i ordered mine in July too, Went yesterday to gamestop and was told they have not idea when it was going to be released..Asked if i wanted a refunded.
Well scuf made controllers based on the normal this is a design so it's harder to create give them time
No they shipped yesterday I called them they said there email is down expect your scuf Friday or Monday
@@Vpninjas I received mine today from Game Stop
I literally got mine just after work. And believe it or not, GameStop is honoring when you actually pre-ordered it. They are definitely going in waves. There were 4 pre-orders in my store where I was the first of two that came in. I also ordered a second faceplate and button kit 3 days ago which of course wasnt in. But just give it time. I put money down back in July if it helps to get a timeline for expectation.
Received mine (that I preordered long ago) the other day. I’m really not happy with it at all, if I’m being honest. First of all, it feels cheap. I feel like I’m going to break it by just using it. Compared to the Xbox Elite, it feels like a cheap toy you buy at the dollar store.
Second, the paddles underneath are stiff and tight. They’re not easy to use, which sucks because that was one of the main reasons I wanted this.
Third, wireless is what I prefer because I’m a casual gamer. If you want to use a mic and talk with friends, you HAVE to play wired. It’s not possible to use audio functions AND play wirelessly.
Finally, when charging the controller, it turns itself on every time. And if I have my PS4 in rest mode, it turns the PS4 on as well. It doesn’t matter if I’m charging it thru the PS4 or thru a USB adapter, after about 9.5 mins (I clocked it) it would turn itself on. This is an issue I actually contacted SCUF about, as I can’t imagine this is the way it’s intended to operate.
I want to like this controller, but I can’t help but feel I overpaid for something I’m just not going to like that much.
I feel ya. Thank you for your honest opinion 👊🏼
What’s the best controller in your opinion?
I’ve never used anything for the PS4 other than the DS4 and this Scuf Vantage. But the best I’ve ever used on any system is the Xbox Elite.
Jeremy Cox Appreciate it!
honestly I like the Razer Raiju it does everything
Having just got my Vantage just a few days ago, I want to give my two cents on the thing. I haven't been able to find many reviews that actually point out the flaws of the thing, so if you want to give my quick review a read, here goes:
I regret buying it. That's the short answer. It feels VERY cheap. It comes with a bunch of plastic interchangeable parts that all feel like they're going to break within a month or two of usage and the entire thing feels cheap in your hands.
The wireless cuts out and you can't use a mic without connecting a micro usb to the ps4. Yeah, I get that they explicitly told everyone the mic wouldn't work without being wired up, but it's still such a baffling design decision.
The buttons.... Oh god the buttons.... The d-pad has to be the stiffest thing I've ever used when I compare it to ANY other controller I've ever used, by far the worst d-pad I've ever seen on a controller. The SAX buttons on the other hand are fairly light, but because of your index finger position, you find yourself hitting them accidentally which is just frustrating. But by far, the absolute worst thing about the controller is how OBNOXIOUSLY loud the paddle button's clicks are. Seriously, these things click so damn loudly that it's genuinely distracting. The triggers are also very stiff for some reason and really don't feel great to use. They also added little plastic "quick trigger" pull... things that I'm convinced are going to break off within a few months.
There's also a lot of people that seem to have very wildly odd thumbstick tracking, and I'm no exception. It feels like the DPI for the thumbsticks just randomly jumps up to 11 at the weirdest times, making you over shoot whatever you were aiming at.
Now, on to the pros (unfortunately, the pros list is very short)... The size makes it fit very well in the hand, and if you have larger hands like I do, then the offset thumbsticks will feel great. And it comes with a very nice braided micro-usb cable. That's really about it.
From all the complaints I've read, I would highly recommend steering clear of this controller until they fix a lot of these issues. I assume a lot of them stem from having an insane number of preorders and trying to fulfill demand ASAP, but it really, REALLY isn't worth the price. It really does feel like a cheap knock-off controller you can buy off amazon that will crap out on you after a month of use.
And believe me, I was super excited for this controller. As soon as I saw it, I thought it'd be a PS4 version of the Elite controller or a competitor for the Razer controllers. Don't be duped by a lot of these youtubers or reviewers that clearly have an incentive to promote this controller. Wait until Scuf fixes the damn thing, but even then I'd still say be wary.
If you got yours and it works perfectly, then that's great, but with the delays in shipping and the poor quality of the product, a lot of customers aren't very happy with Scuf right now, myself included.
(EDIT: fixed some grammar, and added some points I had forgotten.)
Mitchell Stephenson would u say the Nacon Revolution Pro 2 is better?
@@bays_310 Honestly, I can't say. I've never used the Nacon controller. But what I did do was just get the collective minds strike pack for the paddles. It's a way cheaper alternative to buying either of these controllers if you want them for the paddles.
Unfortunately, it just doesn't seem like there's not any good third party controllers for the ps4 or xbox, aside from maybe the Razer controllers, but they're just as expensive (though at least you know you're getting a good quality item).
@@esrinne Don't even try the vantage yet. Not until they fix the problems I highlighted in my original comment. Which, unfortunately, it seems like Scuf likely won't fix. I've heard good things about the Infinity Pro, but I have yet to try it myself.
Again, my biggest problem with the Vantage is mainly the build quality. It really does feel cheap in the hand and I just can't recommend such an expensive controller for the price. Every part of it feels cheap and feels like it will break within a year of buying it. For me personally, I hate the flat paddles that Scuf uses. They're not comfortable and I find them hard to rapidly press if I need to. Plus what little experience I've had with Scuf, their paddles seem to click excessively loudly.
Honestly, if you don't mind having a wire connected, I usually recommend the Collective Minds Strike Pack for the PS4 controller (as mentioned in my previous comment). It's cheaper, and the two paddles are placed really well although I did opt to get the long paddles for my large hands. The only real downside is having to be wired. But other than that I always recommend it over some of these insanely priced third party controllers.
Thanks cuz i was was thinking of switching controllers from nacon to razor or scuff but tbh from what i see id rather have a £70 controller thats better than a £200
Oh yeah and the customisable sticks are huge and it doesnt feel cheap apary from the small little things where u adds ur weights or take some off they kinda wiggle in there if u move them in a certain way (un noticable while playing) the only bad side (for me!) Is that u cant have it wireless which is a small problem
I dont see why they didn't just take an official ps4 controller and modify it? It already works great and ive seen tons of modified official ps4 controllers that seem to work a whole lot better than the pile of scuf. This Scuf is all hype and no deliver
So Scuf made a Xbox controller with extra buttons...... for....... PS4....?
Plus it's got all the features that PS4 controllers have.
Yep that’s pretty much how it go’s
And they nailed it
J-NAX perfect
No its a ps4 controller
GameStop isn’t carrying them. I’ve called every store near me and have had it preordered for months and every GameStop I go to even the one I preordered from don’t have them. Only sponsored people have these controllers. Scuf doesn’t appreciate their customers.
kcx 94 it's due to release first half of October.
If you ordered them earlier this month, you should get them tomorrow. I checked and verified shipments earlier last night. The October slate for release are for people who preordered yesterday and beyond
Leon Davis how are you so sure?
I got one from gamestop Thursday Sept. the 27th.
I emailed scuf about gamestop filling preorders yesterday and was told that they shipped all orders to gamestop last week. My gamestop manager told me he spoke to his DM and they have them in the warehouse. Should have them (preorders) in store some time this week.
The music for the video is ABSOLUTELY fantastic.......80’s music themes will never get old.
200 bux for a controller. This thing better make me breakfast and lunch.
James S. What about dinner man
James S. Barely functions as a controller this pos!
James S. You mean like a wife ? (Jk)
Glad to finally see a vantage review by someone who is not sponsored by scuf. I liked how you did this review, subbed and going to tune back in the future!
Nice paid add. My (bombproof)Nacon and I fully enjoyed this.
I personally like the symmetrical analog sticks on the bottom because it allows you to press the D-Pad at the same time that you're running with the left stick. Necessary for games like Fortnite or Overwatch.
1:11 gotcha
Cayde-6 thanks.
YOU WHAT?! Your here?
Aren't you dead
&: You are?
@@peqbox I saw you before too... I think you said that your Scuf Vantage was arriving tomorrow land lucky bastard to the youtuber lol. Btw can you tell me when is the Scuf Vantage arriving? Since I checked Gamestop and they delayed the date to 10/6/18
Thx for always keeping us updated with gaming news!
damn i was gonna order a Raiju a couple days ago but said na...
im glad i did i want this WAY more. thanks kev
raiju brakes like in 1 year and scuf breaks in 3 month
Jesus Sandoval good thing it has a 2 year warranty plus next day shipping when you order it.
Had my raiju for about a year now, 0 problems, occasionally x button gets stuck but that's easily fixed with a brush, its one hella durable controller
this is like one of the only few good reviews i have found about a scuff controller everything has leaned towards raiju
I personally think the 2 analogs at the bottom have a batter balance than the Xbox style.
Neronova not if you have long or fat fingers...
I have big hands (I can palm a basketball) and prefer the dualshock stick layout.
Caffeinated Critic even so I feel that the ps4 style caters to people with more varied hand sizes
How? I have to force my left thumb on the stick to be able to use it. On Xbox it just naturally sits on the thumbstick
SirSwirll well the reason I say that the ps4 is better balanced is that not all games will required the analog, fighting games for example, are terrible with analog while a d pad makes them much more conformable. The Xbox style is perfect for shooters but not so good on other styles.
That opening though(0:16), thats getting a sub.
The absolute best channel on youtube.
I think, hardly is.
The gamepad design is awesome but its too expensive. However I do love the extra buttons it has and hope both Sony and Microsoft puts more buttons in their next generation consoles gamepads.
I swear this channel is just perfect
:D the full Video is a Scuff ad genius ......
Its bias af
Dean Marshall bro it’s opinionated, it’s his point of view... of course it’s « bias »
@@gameandshame6235 a perfect channel is not bias by any means plus many MANY problems have been issued against the scuff vantage.
@@hungsolo8992 I agree, I bought one too and returned it.
I bought the Nacon Revolution after I got my money from scuf back, it's better in Quality and Handling.
Except the "on the fly" paddle configuration, the Nacon is the better choice.
I can't say anything about others like the Razer for example, because I didn't owned one.
Haven't seen the video in full, looks promising . Love the content
The intro is the best part of the video
I have been using Scuff Infinity for about year now. I just purchased Razer Raiju Ultimate.
1. Quality - The Razor build quality is better. It does not feel cheap as Scuff.
2. Setting - Razor setting is much easier. Mobile app lets you to create profiles easily. When playing you can change profiles using buttons on the controller. I also prefer the Razors Trigger Stop Switches over Scuff. Changing thumbsticks and D-pad is also way easier with Razor.
3. Buttons - well I can tell you that the buttons on Razor makes a huge difference. I would even say that this is the major advantage of this controller. The Razor's buttons have super fast feedback which is definitely noticeable in the game. No more hit and miss as with Scuff.
4. Feel - I think that my hands have to get used to this new controller. I would not be objective to say that Scuff feels better. Of course it feels better if you are used to it. There is nothing extremely uncomfortable right now, so I think that its just matter of time to get comfortable with it.
5. Accessories - I like the fact that it comes with everything, thumbsticks, D-pad, USB cable. When spending so much money, controllers should include all the accessories.
I wish sony would actuallly make there own instead of thease “thrird party” companies like microsoft
I'm curious about this, though I feel like I'd like the impact better! Though a good way to make the standard dualshock feel great is to simply buy the Chin Fan brand silicone skin, some thumb grips and cheap Click on TRIGGER extenders! My dualshock feel bigger and so much better! I've never taken the skins off since! I highly recommend this option fellow gamers!
I've been waiting so long for a proper video on this
Tbh Scuff controllers are pretty shit.
It feels cheap in your hand and it has lots of issues
Think before buying it
I can tell it's cheap just by pausing the video and looking at it.
Very entertaining guys! Thank you for the great video and information!
Nacon is so good, vantage is very expensive
150>250
They are equal
Wow! That controller does look super comfortable.
This controller defeats the entire purpose of a DualShock controller for me, I don't have small hands but I still prefer the ergonomics of the DualShock, I find the Xbox controllers to be uncomfortable and I don't like the asymmetrical design, either.
DualShock. Had to say it one more time.
Look into a Scuf Impact, best controller on the market. Seems like people that have the Vantage are having huge issues with it so far
Because you are a casual smh
baddog3211 impacts are good if you have big hands
If you like the DualShock I say look up the infinity scuf
@@epictroy yes. He's a normal people who desires a controller that feels nice to him, Not an elitist that probably buys what is said to be the best. Gtfo with your casual shit .
The dualshock 4 v2, which is bundled with the playstation 4 pro and slim, also features an option in the ps4 settings to send data via the cable
Ps4 players making fun of the xbox controllers d pad position and their best scuff controller is basically an xbox controller
I'm a ps4 player and only plebs and casuals will make fun of a xbox controller. The people that know their stuff will admit that the xbox controller is the better option
The standard Xbox One controller is atrocious.
@Scoobz hats only because you're accustomed to it
@@exit209 it's acually real nice. The controller feels a lot better and works better than a ps4 controller
The Xbox controller is basically a Game Cube controller...
Overkill in video editing man
I really like this new Xbox controller. Lol 😂
I got that joke lmao i'm surprised a sony fan didnt give u negative backlash, mabye they know its true. Watch them say this co troller trumps the dual shock now that would be funny. Anything xbox do is wack but when playstation copies it its great smh
Love it too 😂
red crimson102 BUT THIS IS SCUF ITS A 3RD PARTY CONTROLLER not a official playstation one
@@redcrimson1028 no. This controller is whack. No point of making an Xbox joke when it's already one mate
@@prizmah actually it is official because Sony supported Scuf in making this controller. so...
5:02 Where can I buy the Playstation Buttons Lamp in the background?
I would buy a Nintendo switch for fcken $250...why would i buy a $200 controller lmao 😂
If you don't play competitively, why would you buy *any* controller? This isn't meant for everyone. Casual players don't need any of these features. Competitive, Pro or "hardcore" (I fucking hate that term) players can get a lot of use out of one of these.
imcnblu hahaha I still find competitive play on console a joke
imcnblu it ain’t paying the bills tho lol
Ashutosh Joshi Well I would never want a Nintendo product. Why would I play Mario? I’m not 5. I bought a scuf vantage a couple days ago because it will make me better at fortnite and other shooter games in the future.
Those six extra buttons should become the new standard for the next generation. It would be nice for devs to have extra buttons to use for different styles of gameplay.
Buy this controller.. I determine that myself. Don't think this is a honest review cause i only hear what is great and awesome about this controller. Are you getting paid by scuf??
Balhet yeah it's a pretty horrible controller. Wouldn't be surprised if he's getting paid
He has to be. This shit is trash and you can see at the beginning and end he couldn't even keep a straight face.
You still haven't talked about Nacon's budget monster of a PS4 controller, Kevin... (please, PLEASE do a video about it. I love the production quality on your videos, and the Nacon Wired Compact Controller is so sexy)
Another video from Beanie Man. Nice!👍
I keep looking at that scuff controller and then looking at my hands and it doesnt matter what angle i look at them, my hands are almost identical in finger and thumb placement. So why are the stick in different positions on the pad? It doesnt make sense
This controller is specifically for xbox players leaving xbox and moving to the popular ps4, great idea for xbox players, they must be very happy.
I have always played with a DualShock but I got one of these because of the 6 remappable buttons plus all of the other stuff amenities that you get on there other controllers it wasn't made for Xbox nerds to feel more welcome when they come to PlayStation
I see that clever Spiderman snippet! 😂😂
Your videos are a masterpiece.
Those colors are insanely beautiful
He’s rapping faster then literally Eminem....
Lol
I have a Vantage and it's plagued with problems. Deadzones in the sticks, Bluetooth not working, buttons not staying remapped. They'll need to recall them and work out the bugs.
I'd buy this in a heartbeat if it didnt have the xbox thumbstick layout
Why? The Xbox layout is objectively better. Only casuals who are Sony fanboys would conclude that the ds4 layout is better.
What i'm saying is they're selling you an xbox controller for your ps4 why tf would i buy this when i already have an xbox and xbox elite controller. At least the ds4 layout would make it authentic to the ps brand I dont need more xbox controllers
Honestly the main reason why I bought it is because it’s similar to the Xbox one controller just wish we could take out the trigger things off in the back like the elite controller for the Xbox
No.
the button layout is almost identical to the Switch Pro Controller
Hmm lets see, 200$ means 1300 Turkish Lira... Hell yeah I will work for 1 month with minimum wage and buy that controller
fiQ 😂😂😂😂
fiQ fuck turkey, fuck you, Armenia for life🇦🇲🇦🇲🇦🇲🇦🇲
Did you ever try the Nintendo switch pro controller it’s like the same exact thing
GUYS DON NOT BUY Razer Raiju Tournament Edition Wireless PS4 Controller their L3 pad is not working properly
So when you buy one of these controllers you have to tell the companies what buttons you want to do what ahead of time, u cant just program them different whenever you want?
Man i want that controller so bad but I can't afford it
PaCBoyCarNAgE x same here lol
I can, and still wouldn't do it lol
I got maybe a stupid question.
Can you remap the butons so that 1 button does 2 things?
For example when playing a racing game, can you remap the buttons so that when you downshift it also gives a dot of trothle?
I know it sounds dumb but i got no experience with scuff controllers...
How to make the PS4 controller feel better, make it feel more like an Xbox controller. Lol. The PS4 controller is actually pretty good but it still doesn't compare to the current Xbox controller in my opinion.
@Kevin Luna Good job. You can read.
Your opinion indeed. But in my opinion Xbox controller is Ass. The Xb360 felt better to me.
@@zonzore The 360 controller was also amazing. I've been using the elite controller since it came out and I can't go back.
@@FUNKOfilms Good for you. It's hard to go back to something inferior once you have upgraded and experienced something much superior so good for you.
@@zonzore The Switch controller is the best imo, only thing holding it down is digital ZR-ZL trigger buttons. Xb360 is definitely more comfortable that Xb1 but has no gyro sensors. Playstation controllers are just trash, all of them. I had to get a Nacon controller just use the PS4 without getting cramps in my left thumb.
I’m new to scuf products and I have a question: could you make it so your paddle and your X work simultaneously? Essentially having two “x buttons” working at the same time? I know that’s a possibly feature with battle beavers but is it possible on a scuf?
What even are these comments
Only kids, a whole thing is matter of taste and what is most comfortable controller? For me that is definitely, ps4 Pro controller.
Anti-opinion opinion-giving people
Please do a comparison video of the new Razer Raiju Ultimate controller and the scuf vantage.
Keyboard and mouse says hi😏
The only thing I like about the vantage it’s the function of physical customization appearance. Other than that, I think the nacon revol is de best pro ps4 controller
I’m saying this although I don’t own any pro controllers and instead own 4 different colors of dualshock 4s
Microsoft been selling this controller for like 60 dollars smh
150* and still less customization options
@Agent DeaDShoT and you never used an elite Playstation controller in the video then
nowonmetube Have you?
Thats a regular controller
Not a pro controller
I play a lot of rainbow six siege. I notice a BIG difference in lag with controller vs the DualShock. I only play wired and ADS is very slow. If I turn my sensitivity up to 100 there is no difference. Need help!
they brake to fast so na scuf sucks
@BarcrestReplayers Its not an official Playstation controller. But it is licensed by Sony. However, I got some hands on with it earlier this summer, and I can say that your assumption is correct. It is absolutely a *very* well manufactured controller. I can't speak on it's longevity, since its literally only just coming out. But, my first impression from handling is that it does not feel like a typical scuf product.
Yeah but.
How good is the speaker compared to the original ps4 controller?
I like how some games use that gimmick, but the sound quality is always bad so I end up turning it off.
I hate the Xbox layout with the burning passion of a thousand fiery suns, all going supernova simultaneously. Otherwise, this does look like a good controller. One that I won't touch with an eleven and a half foot pole, but that is personal preference.
Actually a lot of tests showed that wireless is faster that wired when comparing controllers. It was done with original xbox, ps and nintendo ones, not with 3rd party though
It's because Xbox Controller is better
Garbage D-Pad and terrible bumper buttons? No thanks. Lmao
It trash I don't Want To Play With Fat Ass Controller DS4 Way Better
@@beatuplexus Lame Joke
@@truthhurts9220 yeah ds4 dpad is trash i agree. Massive step back with over sized plastic.
Shoutout to X1 for using Nintendo official dpad!
And that cant be beat
@@thealpha6848 That's only because you have Baby hands.......
Why aren't paddles in the back just the standard for controllers nowadays? It just seems more convenient to have those buttons so you wouldn't have to move your thumb away from the stick.
This is a dream controller but I can’t afford that can u don’t a giveaway please iam begging u
Both of my hands are very similars .. What is good at my right hand also is to my left hand, I just can't understand asymetric controllers..
And I tried.. it was so painfull and uncomfortable.. in up position the left stick is just some millimeters from the left triggers! Just cannot understand.. but perhaps am I not normal with two mostly Identical hands..
How about don’t buy a PS4 in general?
How about stfu moron?
Because Bloodborne
BarcrestReplayers who says I play an Xbox? Lmao
i have ps4 and it suck and so does ps4 shitty controller its fuking shit
but Bloodborne
I’ve had this controller for less than a month and I’ve been using it to play blackout. I’ve configured some of the back buttons to other buttons. It was pretty simple to learn the controller I didn’t read the manual but I got it down. The only down side is within less of a month of using this controller the left stick is kind of messed up. When I click down on it to make my character sprint it’ll make my character sprint for a little then it’ll stop after a second or two. Or if my character is moving forward it’ll all of a sudden make my character walk when I’m trying to sprint. You can only connect a wired headset to the controller only if the controller is wired to the PS4. If the controller is on Bluetooth mode the wired headset won’t work. You’ll have to use a Bluetooth headphone
Copy of xbox controller
Its not technically a copy cuz it dosent have a xbox logo and more (its a joke dont hate)
Ok 😂
Haha ok
@@matttxxs scuf purposely did the xbox design to ensure this controller was perfect..... tbh ps4 controllers and the design is terrible compared to xbox... I'm a ps4 player
Nacon did it too. Fuck off
Honestly I'm gonna be sticking to Aim Controllers personally. They are a better alternative to SCUF, and while are still a heavily modified Dualshock 4, I don't mind that since they beat SCUF in some areas. First the AIM 3.0 Paddles are now offered in a 4 Paddle configuration, which can be remapped by simply holding the touch pad for three seconds, and in my opinion are more comfortable than the SCUF Paddles. The AIM Paddles are closer to handles of the controller, which is what I prefer. Second, since it's a modified Dualshock 4, the sticks can be the same shape as a Dualshock 4, or you can also choose to have an Xbox One stick on a Dualshock 4. Changing the sticks is also very easy, as you just to pull the top of them off, and put the new stick on. The sticks can be purchased in different colors as well. The AIM Grip is also a bit more pronounced in my opinion, and it actually covers the whole controller. One small but important detail is that Aim Controllers allow you customize the color of the D Pad and the buttons separately, which SCUF for seemingly no good reason doesn't. You can also get the Smart Triggers, which turn the triggers from analog to clicky buttons. Maybe it's just a minor thing, but I prefer the shape of the Dualshock 4. Xbox One is comfortable, but a bit big for my hands. Aim Controllers also allow you to add your logo to the controller if you so choose. The price of the AIM Controller is a bit cheaper than SCUF, at $186 fully loaded, or $150 for everything I wanted on my controller.
Bottom line, I'll be sticking to Aim Controllers for a while,since it's what I prefer. This is mostly since they use a lot of original Dualshock 4 parts, instead of they're own analog sticks like SCUF.
Non symmetrical analog sticks? No thanks, thats terrible design.
Joseph Bentley hell yeah for me
Would this be for ufc 2&3, mortal kombat?...
Wassup he will not pin this l
ima goat you’re right
Thats cuz he probably doesn’t read comments
Lmao you guessed right bud
Yes he won't.
Can you install regular sony ps4 thumb sticks? I still want use my kontrol freek.
Just get the collective minds striker pack. It gives you two extra buttons on the back ergonomically placed and a bunch of other useful features such as mods for auto run (god I am glad I don't have to hold down L3). It's wired but you can still use wired headsets.
It's a shame the low quality on the trigger stops, I have 2, infinity and impact and both have problems
The real test will be how long it lasts people who play high input games, as most complaints concerning this make is the longevity/build quality that doesn't justify the price.
Buys an $200 controller with extra buttons, doesn't use them and play spiderman instead XD
They have a wired or a Bluetooth option in check out, which one do you choose to get both options????
I just want a controller with more durable joysticks.. The L3 joystick keeps going on me.. I play FPS’s and I’m constantly running around.
With Apex Legends I’ve bought another normal PS4 controller.. but I refuse to buy another regular controller.
I also have big hands.
The Best Gaming Channel EVER. Take That Austin Evans Fans.
Good video Kevin
I wish you do a video on the best controllers for people with wrist problems like carpal tunnel and de Quervain etc. please like guys so Kevin and his team can see it
I'm guessing your scufs have some issues by now so I'd love to see a follow up video of how they've held up.
is it good for average sized hands? bigger than DS4 and smaller that Xbox One S controllers?
I would've freaked out if you played Stepping Out by Joe Jackson in the background. Nice music tho.
Mine got a horrible drift within 1 week on both sticks so did my buddy streamers. Also the trigger stops came insanely loose where you can't use them. Still waiting to send it back not sure if I even wanna use it. Plus all the extra attachment extra sticks don't fit they catch at the bottom like they need to be a hair skinny near the bottom rounded part.
I was about to get this, but after seeing so many negative feedback from customers I went with the Razer Raiju.
How's the durability though? Scufs are notorious for breaking early and often.
The vantage has alot of problems like audio when you put your headphones in and it doesn't have noise.
Do a review of the Razer Raju Ultimate or a comparison video of the razer and Scuf Vantage 👌