Magic Square Optimus 2 0: A Sequel to The Best.
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This is the amount of poseability the R.E.D line should have.
It doesn't even need to be half this high, but that would totally justify it at least for 20 bucks.
I guess you could say this guy has MAXIMUM POSING.
Very close to it.
How did Takara, a company worth millions upon millions of dollars, who are supposed to make the best of the best when it comes to Transformers, are beaten out by some random 3P company?
Because Takara seems to be obsessed with the toys being pixel perfect recreations of the G1 cartoon animation model's reference sheet, not to mention brittle plastic and baffling articulation decisions (Like MP44's knees).
laziness greed and their ego oh and knowledge that transformers fans will gobble up their bs
See I don't agree Time Man, this is almost EXACTLY as accurate as that figure in every way. I think it really just boils down to two things.
1 a lack of Talent. They just don't have the best minds working there.
and 2 the fact that the Japanese audience that Takara is marketing to is solely interested in static display, and not how the figure handles.
When it comes to selling a good quality product, these 3P companies focus mostly on the good quality product, while Takara and other big -official- companies focus nearly entirely on the selling.
@@timeman7753 the problem is that even then they aren’t that exact to the appearance
This figure looks unreal, I can’t believe they not only made this figure unbelievably animation accurate well also making it able to transform just baffles me, I understand it’s flawed but it looks fantastic
And the Transformation isn't even hard or bad, it's just a worse version of an excellent one.
And THAT POSABILITY MMMMMMM
I absolutely agree with you about the paint; in most cases, it's not necessary if you use the right plastic color... The thing is that the plastic used in the unpainted figure MUST be quality plastic!
Exactly.
If you walk into your house drunk or you are just not paying attention you could easily confuse this thing for a bar of soap that looks like optimus prime
You wash your armpits with it only to stab your self.
Thought it looked more like a night light you find in the kids furniture section at Target
The look of the plastic reminds me of the r.e.d. Optimus
I can see that yes.
This review was actually interesting since he doesn’t just say everything was perfect
When do I ever say anything is perfect?
@@PerspectiveEndI think the commenter was contrasting your video with other RUclipsrs rather than your own previous videos.
There is also a ratchet joint in the ankle that is supposed to allow the whole foot to rotate forward and back but it's so strong that I'm afraid the foot will snap off if I try to move it.
Interesting, they are so strong I didn't even realize they are there.
Honestly my favorite part of this dude is that he somehow doesn’t have a faux-forming grill.
I mean the original version has the exact same grill.
The semitransparent plastic drowns out all of the details on this figure. If he was cast in anything else he’d be absolutely beautiful. It’s tragic to see something get this close to perfection only to fall flat in such a massive way. If I were an absolute mad woman I’d try to paint one of these to see it how it should have been, unfortunately I have a full time job and I know that’s an art project I’d never finish.
It's so frustrating. I expect they are going to Flog the hell out of this into new decos, so hopefully there will be a more attractive one than this, but until then I think it's best to wait.
G1 movie but Optimus can't get his matrix out and everyone just watches the dieing bot struggle
"damn QC.." *dies*
Ultimately that's what actually killed him, they couldn't treat him while he was fumbling.
The fact that THIS has a real grill and has cartoon accurate proportions shows that most toy designers don't have an excuse to use a fake grill. Lol
Yes but that was true of the original one as well.
@@PerspectiveEnd I know, I was just talking about this one since this is just slightly more cartoon accurate in terms of proportions.
Such a great video to wake up on my birthday to!
Happy birthday, glad you enjoyed so much.
This might be the epitome of a love-hate relationship figure.
Indeed it is.
This figure seems the be the definition of two steps forward and one leap back. It's so confused of if it wants to be good or not, so it's stuck having a spasm in between.
In a way yes, but I wouldn't call it confused, it just made one REALLY bad decision.
hasbro and takara: we have made the most accurate G1 figure of all time! Which includes an accurate face mask, and vehicle mode! Doesn’t matter if the vehicle isn’t accurate to cartoon, we love accurate vehicle modes!
Some random 3rd party company in Beijing, China:
Is that like asking for participation from me?
Some random 3rd party company in Beijing, China: Hold my Beer.
The plastic is nylon it was used A. because its cheap and B. the other plastic was breaking on the 2.0 smaller parts that was justified for the legends but not the upscale. the upscale should have gotten new plastic
Yes, and here's hoping that when they do a second run they change this so it looks better. They did that a lot with the original.
This figure would be the best optmus prime if it weren't for the plastic being rubber. Thanks for the video perspectiveend
Very likely yes. It's still a good figure, but maybe wait for an alternate version.
I know this will likely seem completely illogical to you, but, I straight up refuse to buy an Optimus Prime that doesn't come with a Matrix of Leadership, and further, I always want the Energon Axe. They are 100% essential to me. Yes, even in chug. It's why I won't buy the ssbb Optimus or Siege Optimus.
For the reason why:
I (generally speaking) have a collection of one toy per character (or at least character design) and I want that figure to encompasses that character's totality.
The matrix is one of the most important parts of transformers lore in every continuity it is cannon to, and the ability to store and remove it from his chest is a fun play factor for me.
Then, regarding his axe: I don't care that it was only in the G1 cartoon for one episode. I care that it has been his primary melee weapon in fiction for the last nearly 40 years. You spend more time with the toys than you do the shows afterall
Here's the one problem I have with that. Optimus isn't even the guy the Matrix is important to in G1.
It's only ever brought up in the movie while he's dying. It's important to Hotrod, Ultra Magnus and Rodimus, but not OG Optimus.
And you are missing out on two FANTASTIC Optimuses, because they aren't coming with an accessory we already have a MILLION of in the fandom.
Also the Axe hasn't been his Primary Melee weapon ever since. It's on and off, but he didn't use it in G1 after episode 1, he didn't use it in RID 2001, he didn't use it in the UT, He didn't use it in prime, he Didn't use it in the movies. In fact in most of those he used a sword.
He really only used it in the High Moon Games.
@@PerspectiveEnd I 100% disagree with the claim it wasn't important to Optimus. Granted, you've said before that you didn't finish season 3 (which is fair tbh. Skylynix and Wheelie can go in a trash compactor), but he used it throughout his appearances there. In fact, every episode he was in in season 3&4 had him use the bloody thing. Also, again, outside the G1 show, the Matrix has been more important than his gun.
By the way, that would also include the Transformers Marvel comic, where the Matrix was introduced first, and more important to Optimus then any other character though out the comic.
As for the axe, you got roasted on the discord already so, I won't hammer on that lol
Return of Magic Man of Squares
A very square Optimus made by Magic Square.
Gonna be honest the nylon really isn’t a detractor for me, the matte finish really works for these models and I’ll gladly take feeling flexible over super noticeable panel lines and higher chance of breakage
MS made the right call I think, especially for legends scale figures, their Shockwave not being great is kinda proof of that, since it uses ABS instead of the standard nylon.
At legends scale this plastic can work, but in these quantities it just doesn't look good, especially the way it can scuff, I don't know why it didn't show up on camera at all, but in person there are long streaks of plastic that's been scuffed so it reflects differently than the rest of it.
@@PerspectiveEnd ohhh… yeah that’s not great
“Remember how the MMC light of freedom was the most posable figure?”
Perspective your confusing companies here
Next thing you know MMC will produce there next “My OC, please do not steal” that will be more possible than the magic square light of peace 2.0 and then starts an everlasting conflict between the two. Probably won’t happen but would be very funny if that did.
MMC and them do a typically slug it out for who has the most posing.
MP44’s posability is still higher. Love my ab tilt 🤤
It has 1 SLIGHTLY more poseable joint. 1. This crushes it in all other areas.
@@PerspectiveEnd how so? It matches everywhere else and way more head and ab articulation and the paint and plastic quality is another level in comparison
Like Thanos, this was inevitable.
It was inevitable they used bad plastic?
@@PerspectiveEnd no, that you'd review this.
If this didn’t have bad plastic would this be better than the original
Probably yes.
I can’t even look at this ring with out hearing the * dutdutdutdutdutdutdutudt * of the G1 season 1 intro. Seeing as the face seems to be going for greater cartoon accuracy (as was MP-52) maybe the lacklustre plastic is to mimic the shoddy animation quality of the show. Maybe lol
I think it's just that they are using their Typical MS plastic that they use on their legends figures here.
Te01 still stands tall
I'd say no. The First MS was already better than that, and this is it's equal, but looking more like the TE, so it's better than that thing for sure.
Honestly, I'm glad I went for the Light of Freedom instead of the Light of Peace. Sure, the latter is more accurate and more posable, but materials can really drag a figure down.
Yeah, hopefully they will do a second run in a new deco at some point.
Magic Square actually still has the metallic, Shattered Glass, dead, and Nemesis versions of the 1.0 in stock on their website (though the classic, Magnus, and clear versions are still unavailable).
I know I commented on this several times, but I wanted to check back in with my report on the MS-02EX (2023 revision), as I just received it yesterday.
First off and most glaringly, the box arrived looking like a fat man had stepped on it. I contacted MS and they're going to try working something out with their warehouse to send me another one, (they haven't asked for the one I have back yet, but I'm fully prepared to do so if they ask.
Second, Many of his issues do really seem fixed. His feet don't feel super loose, his hipskirts aren't as much of a pain as the first run seemed to have, and the paint+die cast added to his feet seems to have worked. The Paint really improves the overall look of the figure, especially in the face. The matrix Chamber is painted better and the matrix itself is show accurate colors.
The big con is some of the tolerances and transformation feels really tight now. the swivels on his upper biceps are incredibly tight, while some bits of the leg's transformation remain so tight the plastic developed a stress mark before even transforming. (the armature that allows the back tires to flip around). They also seemed to really fight snapping into place in truck mode correctly, as bits of the truck bed were interfering with the back left wheel rolling correctly. (I followed video tutorials to make sure it wasn't user error)
Also in one odd case, the hip joint side split feels really rather loose now, to the point where if a leg does a side split, the weight of the leg will pull it back down.
There also appear to be quite a few bits of "Gate remnant (remaining excess plastic from where the plastic was fed into the mold)
All in all, the most glaring issues were fixed, although some bits of transformation are a bit finnicky, although I'm not sure how much of it is due to a very fat man sitting on my figure in transit. The additional paint really elevates the sculpt of the figure, the figure can balance far better, and the additional accessory of the jetpack was an unnecessary, but really cool inclusion.
It has plastic so thin, it could be called Starscream's costume. I hope the company makes a version with a Starscream head.
The legends scale version has his shoulder intakes and head
What? Starscream's Costume?
From “Megatron’s Master Plan, Part 1”.
Magic square has released an MS-02 EX Version which has diecast metal and better paint apps and more accessories for good ole prime
It does look a lot nicer.
Got the legends version of this guy as a late Christmas present literally yesterday as of the time of writing this, and I honestly really like the nylon. I think it feels pretty good, it’s durable, and it looks great imo.
Edit: its also weird the engineering differences between the small one and the big boi, like the shoulders and elbows on the smaller one being more limited and the butt plate not flipping backwards on the tiny guy.
It feels good at a Smaller Scale. When it gets this big it feels really bad, because the flexibility that's a positive at a smaller scale is multiplied by the scale, so the figure feels insubstantial and bendy.
Yeah, I don't know why the elbows are different like that. They really should have been the same joint.
@@PerspectiveEnd I don’t mind the elbows that much, they bend a good amount. It’s the shoulders Im hung up on. They seem to have the cutout for the hot rod shoulders, but then they’re pinned through it. Just seems like they did it just to fuck with the posability.
@@PerspectiveEnddid you get the ex version?
I’ve heard exactly what you said about this toy. Another prime, not needed unless you didn’t get the first one. And magic square knew this, they only made 1000 for their first run. I personally feel this review would’ve been ten times better if it was universe hound. Not only is he still a contender for someone’s best chug hound, but he comes with the best chug ravage to date. Anyways, great review. And will you have newages as well as Planet X’s IDW grimlock for the 10k special?
Well hopefully they make a second run in nicer plastic.
@@PerspectiveEnd they’re known for this plastic. It feels cheap, yet is incredibly durable
speaking of the Axe.
Honestly I prefer the battle blades on the more combat oriented Primes.
Like the movie versions, the Pripe version etc...
Animated Prime's axe was pretty cool tho, really helped woth the entire firefighter aestetic.
I think I appreciate the Axe more, just because it's an atypical weapon for a hero.
@@PerspectiveEnd can't be much worse than a mace like hawkman.
So between TE 01, this, Light of Freedom, and whatever MP KO Prime exists, what would be your recommendation? I am looking for an Optimus with decent amounts of playability and a solid transformation
Oh btw, mega congrats on 10K subs!!! Can’t wait for your subscriber special
Thank you so much.
And as for the Recommendation, Go with the Original Light of Freedom, that's an excellent figure. It poses better than the TE and MP3, Transforms better than them both too, depending on your taste in aesthetics it may be a little better or worse looking than those two in it's robot and vehicle modes, but that's subjective.
If you can't get that, then this version is still better than those other two.
the robot honestly looks like a RED figure
You aren't wrong about that.
They really should have used a more typical plastic for the upscale. I love the nylon for the small guys, their Onslaught feels incredibly durable. But yeah, upscaled it would just feel off
I dunno man I just can’t keep my hands off this thing. I think he’s my favorite Optimus and I have a lot.
The execution of armada starscream will happen next video.
I can understand why you feel that way, especially if you didn't experience their original one. This is still a great figure, it's just got a crippling flaw the original didn't have.
I'm not sure if you know about this, but there's a nemesis repaint of this figure (and its legends scale counterpart) called ms-02b dark lord. It fixes most of the original figures' issues such as having tighter joints (most notably the ankles), looking much more premium, and I think it even uses better plastic (although a part of me isn't quite sure because I can't buy it.)
Edit: A RUclipsr who's called Optimus Legends made a video talking about the figure, he covers more detail in his video you should probably check him out.
I saw that it was happening, but I didn't know how it was going to turn out. Glad to hear there's a better version of this thing on it's way.
So since you grew up with transformers G1 have you seen thunder cats and if you did have you seen the 2011 one
I have not every watched an episode of either of those, I always wanted to get into the 2011 one but since it was canceled I just can't bring my self to.
That plastic makes the head sculpt look like a FansToys release.
I can feel you on that.
There’s a new version with more accessories, die cast, paint on the whole figure, supposedly better plastic and better joints that I’m getting and I think you should too
It’s the MS-02EX light of peace
I've also seen that one apparently breaks, so I'm unsure if I should pick it up.
@@PerspectiveEnd hmmmmmmm how does it break? The smokestacks? That was common with the normal version because of the packaging ima look into it
Yep I agree weak plastic isn't my thing but still so good of a 3rd party figure of optimus
It is still a good figure.
I never regret buying this. got a few qc issues such as broken smoke stack and loss feet. but after fixing it, oh man what a pleasure to play it. I don't mind the plastic without a lot of painting as for now the plastic is durable af.
Normally I prefer plastic without paint, but this just looks wrong.
@@PerspectiveEnd as long it's not break is fine by me. Plus he look awesome
Hear me out, we have the rock formers as apocalypse bunker base former weaponizer
I have no idea what you are saying.
@@PerspectiveEnd okay okay, there are these old toys where robots turned into diffrent rocks, and I was thinking hey what if you had them as actual transformers?
Well if you stretch it the matrix is accurate to beast wars as it was all silver in it
Yeah but it's not the correct shape of the thing.
I don't know why but it reminds me of those cheap homemade toys that's made out clay.
I can kind of see what you are on about.
the plastic is bendable and durable....so it wont break easily and can withstand rough handling...except for the chromed smoke stacks which is a different plastic used..
I've heard that the Ratchets in this figure are also self destructing.
I'm crossing my fingers that the second run will fix the QC issues, as it's sold out on the MS site right now. (I Hope they still have the deal where you get both MS 01 and 02 for 170 by then though...)
Yeah as of right now I'm happy to own both and if they do a second release in a different plastic that would get a hearty recommendation.
@@PerspectiveEndwill you be reviewing the metal version or nemesis version and 2 I don’t think I’ve heard anyone else had the problems with the plastic as far as I know so it could be just for your copy idk 🤷♂️
The inside and matrix looks more like his Spark casing from Beast Wars.
Actually, thinking of this as a figure of his Beast Wars 3D model makes its oddness… less bod
That would be it's own kind of oddness though.
@@PerspectiveEnd true
2:11 Did nobody else noticed he said MMC Light of Freedom by accident I did not notice this till today.
SHIT FUCK GODDAMNIT!!!
If you were to make Optimus a tripple changer, with his truck alt mode and a plane mode that gives him a jet pack in robot mode, what plane would you do, and Whcih parts of the truck become which parts of the jet
I swear they just slapped the prototype figure in the box and shipped it.
Yeah the plastic looks really bad.
I like this because of the articulation. But I have to handle it like a gundam figure
The articulation is AWESOME! I just want better plastic.
I desperately want siege Optimus Prime
It is very fun you'd like it alot.
@@PerspectiveEnd I don’t doubt it I like earthrise and you say that siege is superior so I’m definitely going to get it when I have the money
Isn't the all silver matrix a reference to beast wars?
I don't think it's an intentional one. I think it's just they got cheap with that part so it wound up being like the BW one.
That’s the 1.0…the 2.0 had a different matrix and a jet pack, maybe diecast metal? Not sure but that’s def the 1.0
No it's the 2.0, but there was a 2.0 of the 2.0.
This is the 1.0 in Magnus Colors.
ruclips.net/video/yrg8hPjfjX4/видео.html
2:21 "Point and laugh...oh! Hahaha!" Man I love having a fun Optimus again
Good grief the axe looks like it's made of frozen mountain dew on camera why does it look so green!? Bad enough every time they give him an axe it's that short useless hand replacement one. Best Prime axe was either the WFC games or Animated. Or the Siege figure. Which makes it all the more weird Siege Megatron doesn't have a mace but rather a sword for, I think only because his G1 toy came with one right? Man iconic accessories are weird.
I wasn't even going for that. I just did it because it was a funny thing to do.
I assume it looks green because it's surrounded by blue.
It is cooler when it's a separate weapon he can hold.
@@PerspectiveEnd Yeah that was just the first thought I had seeing it.
Likely. And agreed. Same goes for Megatron's mace. I've seen some awesome third party ones for the Siege/Earthrise Prime and Megatron figures, the mace in particular giving me WFC game vibes but I don't know the exact name of it
I think if anybody were to remake this figure all they’d have to do is maybe an extra head and fix the plastic tolerance in order to become probably the best 3rd party G1 prime but other than that this figure is surprisingly good being it came from the legends figure
Well MS Flogged the hell out of the original mold in different paint jobs and plastics, so I expect they will do the same for this one at some point.
Yeah I have this figure too. The material really brings it down when it shouldn’t. And can we agree the matrix should at least be die cast?
Yeah I do feel like the Matrix being diecast would help this thing.
Oh, you did review this. Definitely an excellent figure, which I do consider an upgrade to the 1.0 in both modes, but asthetic preference is fine. Loved it since the legends version was leaked, but I'm still holding out for a "premium" release, with paint that negates the translucent nature of the plastic (small hope if improved hands). I still disagree on your view of Optus Pexus, as it simply poses more naturally, with built up joints, but that's what happens when the alt mode they had to achieve was that basic, so apples and oranges.
I find it funny that I'm still iching to see what Fans Toys and possibly X-Transbots come up with. Both are on the up and up, with Fans Toys' Magnus showing SOME promise given Optimus could and should be focused solely on being Optimus.
I don't agree, the Optus Pexus's shoulders are WAY more limited.
@@PerspectiveEnd That much I can agree on; the shoulder design was poorly articulated in every sense of the word.
i honestly feel happy with my transform element op leader transformation is a bit finicky especially with his abdomen but both modes are solid and i don't mind him not being overly articulated if he can get him into the poses i want i'm happy and i'm gonna try to get this figure but the plastic quality worries me
I'm glad you like it but yeah, I hate that abdomin transformation, especially when it gets to rolling the legs up into it, that's just my definition of Pain.
And yeah that poses fine, this is just if you want to get really deep into posing.
@@PerspectiveEnd personally i'm fine with the hips rolling up the pain part is trying to get the backpack and side panels of the waist tabbed in and then untapping them but its doable without a tool so i'd say its passable but its got an edge over this new one with its quality and overall quality is kinda the most important thing
What optimus primal favorite war tactic guerrilla warfar good vid.
Thank you very much.
And I'd say that no Primals favorite tactic's were more conventional battles.
@@PerspectiveEnd it was a joke
What do you think of the painted version? Have you thought about giving it a look?
Though it's still not perfect, I think a lot of the issues you talked about were solved with that figure.
Yeah, materials look very bad, but at least he’s not committing a sin of faux grill part
This is true, and this is still a good figure, it's just ugly.
Something tells me stop-motion animators will covet this.
Oh I'm sure they will.
7:36 yk u should get the metallic version of this mould ive heard it has much better plastic
I want to, but a the same time that's kind of an Unneeded expenditure.
that matrix looks like the one from beast wars to me
lovely
Thank you!
You know a figure is good when he says *M A X I M U M* four times lol
Probably could have said it more too.
Thanks for the review man, much appreciated 👍
Happy to do it.
I need to know did you actually throw that book through your wall in your one thousand subscriber special
The wall was 1/4th normal thickness dry wall, that I scored up on the back with a knife to make it easier to break.
Thank you for answering this question!
Still better then MP44
Seriously 500$ for a MP optimus that chips paint and has a utterly confusing transformation like a Michael bay transformer
And 500$ for all the accessories that are just too much
And not to mention the mini figures that come apart so easily and are just ment for the door opening gimmick
I'd say light of peace gets a W in many ways. It's cheap it has good articutlation and posing is great
Also the unpainted weapons are not a big deal at all.
I mean would you rather have MP44 and all its overly inflated priced weapons or something that won't make you go broke
Plus the thing i love about it the most the back is clean and animation accurate too and is way better looking in his alt mode too then MP44
It's basically a very nice looking animated G1 optimus prime and way better then MP44 and though I've never seen the original magic square optimus i bet it's not as good but in terms of a animation accurate figure it definitely takes the cake.
I'd give it a 8/10
Seriously though FIVE HUNDRED DOLLARS
Man magic square figures always look like they are 3d printed, it's one of the reasons I'm just avoiding magic square figures
Their Original Prime had a lot nicer plastic than this, it's just that they are using their Legends stuff for this guy.
I need help you see my kingdom Tigatron has a pin that I need to push in but I don’t know how.
I mean I don't know what the problem with the pin is, like is it sticking out, if it is and you want to get it to sit flush, cant you just press it in on the corner of a counter or something?
This has made me question how many optimuses actually turn the bumper of the truck into his skirt? Is it just the g1 and Lego optimuses
Transform element uses the bumper on the back of the skirt.
Not a ton but there are a small handful. TE turns the Bumper into the Matrix Chamber.
@@PerspectiveEnd I think you’re thinking of MP10 and the original magic square one.
Isnt one of the 2 TOON legends scale devastator sets magic square as well and have also the same PROBLEM with horrible looking and weird feeling plastic?
I think the problem was the MS one didn't really hold together all that well. Personally from a distance I think their's looks a lot cooler my self.
@@PerspectiveEnd i honestly like more the look o the new age's constructicons, although in neither of them i like the partsforming heavy combiner modes
I’m gonna say this I always hate when Optimus prime truck modes based on the G1 design get rid of the silver stripe it just looks cheap and wrong with a little bit of color to break up the red
I like both looks my self.
I found it kinda funny that the tolerances were bad because of the plastic, even tho i heard that plastic is made for calculating the tolerances because they don't want them to be bad.A:that's lazy from them if that's true B:how ironic
Well they usually use this plastic on their Legends figures and it can help them there, but at this scale it's a bad idea.
I really hope this gets a knock-off with better plastic or MS does a metallic repaint or something, this could have been so much better than it is if they just used normal materials like literally every other company
It doesn't need a Knockoff, MS likes to Flog the hell out of their prime in different materials and paints, so hopefully they will do the same with this one.
NewAge has good plastic, rather happy with my David for my G1 legends.
I love my MS Cosmos and Seaspray though. Perceptor too.
Yes, MS makes good stuff, they really just shouldn't have used their Legends plastic on a MP figure.
I really enjoy the look of this figure, i know the plastic quality isn't the best but the way it looks is so visually pleasing to me. but i don't collect figures of masterpiece scale so I honestly would rather get the legends scale version also I know there not very different but it would be neat if you could review the legends version.
Believe me it looks worse in person, the camera is doing a lot of heavy lifting to cover up the issues with this.
@@PerspectiveEnd I suppose that makes sense but I still enjoy the look of it a lot
And here's the deal: this is the same plastic that they use with almost every Legends figure they make. Except the datsuns (for some reason) and their Menasor (who used higher quality plastic)
Yeah, which works at a Legends Scale acceptably, but at this scale it gets infinitely worse.
In my opinion:legends class magic square figures are the perfect way to start your collection I own light of peace and doomsday the limited paint let’s you be a little rough with the figure (if you’re a psychopath) and some of the transformation are fun some of the transformation light of peace is fun but doomsday transformation is not fun and a pain in the ass
I can understand why you feel that way, but I feel like it's almost the other way around. Legends figures are what tired collectors transfer to, because it saves on space and money.
5:42
I mean it's accurate to Beast wars.
Ms 02ex basically fixes all the cons of this figure like the plastic and adding paint so id say that the new version 8s worth it.
I'm sure. But like if I get that version what do I do with this one, cause no one will buy it off me.
@@PerspectiveEndyou could get the toy version
Honestly still worth the money
Even though the plastic sucks everything else is awsome!
I do feel that's fair, though I'd still caution people to wait for a Second release where they may change the materials or paint job, like how MS liked to do for the original figure.
@@PerspectiveEnd thats probably the better thing to do
I have been hunting this figure... You think I should wait for a reissue, with better plastic? I know this not as expensive.
Yes, I do think that waiting would probably be a good idea.
I hesitated and now they're out of stock. I was close to ordering it as a bundle with the black Light of Freedom.
The reports of exploding ratchets and cheap plastic convinced me not to.
I've not heard about exploding ratchets. I say wait for a Rerelease in a different deco, they like to Flog their primes a lot.
@@PerspectiveEnd At this point, I don't have a choice.
Hey perspective are you gonna get the haslab deathsaurus?
Maybe. I'm considering it at least.
I hope one day they might re release it with better plastic
They rereleased the original figure in like a dozen different styles so I expect they will do the same here.
Looking at some.of their other stuff, it's an improvement in the engineering, but the same in terms of materials... at least it's not their Megatron
To be fair yes. But their engineering is usually very good.
@@PerspectiveEnd Yeah, sometimes a bit much for the size, but the engineering is astonishing for the size
Remember?
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Of course. And yes it's unfortunate, though it is still a solid figure.
I think the vheicle mode does alot better than what is said in the video with the bumper being silver with the clear orange alongside having the much more narrow bed or whatever it's called and no longer having the feet hang of the back. In general it doesn't seem that these masterpeice figures are based on the cartoon designs as much as they are the refined and more consistent 1986 movie designs.
I can see why you'd disagree about that. Im really just coming at this from the position of the original looking a lot better like this.
3:01 I really don't like how that skirt works and moves, it looks like the figure broke. The flimsy feeling plastic you mentioned earlier doesn't help with that.
It's a little annoying but you don't really notice it when it use, just when trying to get back to the standard configuration.
I really want to get this figure, but I have a couple of questions. How did you get it because showz has had it listed as a preorder but Ive seen so many reviews of it. Also how much does it cost because that has a large impact on how much I want it and showz doesnt list a price? Thanks!
That's cause the first run sold out, so it's on preorder for the second one.
I paid 124 for mine.
Whats your opinion on the toxitron color scheme???
It's fine I guess. I never really give it any thought my self.
Hi Perspective! Are you having a good day?
Indeed I am, how about you?
@@PerspectiveEnd I'm sick so yeah... not really having a great day