This was a pretty smart way to make a documentary about SMU while getting far more people to click by giving it a flashier title, while still delivering 100% on that title
The “repeated violator” clause, the official name for the “Death Penalty,” reminds me of a nuclear warhead that is used against SMU; unfortunately, like Hiroshima and Nagasaki, nobody wants to use it upon realizing the sort of devastation that would leave an athletic program into.
That scandal killed the Olympians. Groza and Beard not only has ownership but were the stars, so them getting banned and having to sell their shares for nothing meant Indianapolis has no real players and no money, so after '53, they closed up shop.
Vic was killed by Freq and it was justified. 100%. Vic blackmails Freq about covering up a manslaughter freq committed when they were both teenagers. vic asks freq if he can have Freq's sports car in return for the blackmail. he agrees. a day later, Vic dies in a car crash during a car chase from some individuals Vic pissed off previously. pretty sure Freq messed with the car's breaks
Not trying to throw shade, but hope he’s like BobbyBroccoli in more ways than presentation: at one point BBrocc did the same until he hit a critical mass of subscribers. Hydn is getting there.
as someone currently getting their degree in history, the mastermind behind a mid-level d2 soccer team that the president of the university didn’t even know existed being a history professor makes 100% sense, we’re never normal
@@jamesdeanspacemarine1663 He was talking about examples of workplace malpractice and incompetence that would get you in trouble with the law in Hammurabi’s code.
A compliment upfront: You made me watch a feature-length documentary about something I don't care about (college athletics), involving sports I know nothing about (U.S. sports looks odd from an outside perspective), from a time when I was not alive. I don't regret watching any minute of it. Good job! Funnily (well, not if you're a fan), something similar to the death penalty happened to my home town's American football team just last year. The Marburg Mercenaries, a team who played in the German Football League and who had even found some success on a European level, had to completely kill their men's team. They have now permanently withdrawn from the first and second division of the German Football League, meaning they will never play on a professional level again. The reason: For years, they had handed out fake European passports and false identities to U.S. players, in order to circumvent the cap on how many Americans were allowed on each team. That's not only unfair, it's also very illegal, and a couple of former staff members have been charged with felonies (awaiting trial, but expecting prison sentences). A sad end to two decades of rising success that turned out to have been as fake as the identities of their players.
@@shayd4107 Considering the enormous advantage that comes from college football (a concept that's completely foreign to Europe), I suppose this rule makes sense. There's too much of an incentive to stack teams with players from that background.
Look I’m not the first one to make the Jon Bois joke, nor will I be the last, but I hope Hydn knows how much of a compliment that is. Jon Bois makes hour-long videos nerding out about sports (or various topics) with funny graphics and interesting music choices, and he is a legend. This is a 2-hour video of a guy nerding out about sports using funny graphics accompanied by interesting music. Hydn is a LEGEND! Enjoy your stay in the legend club, man. I could never do something like this- not many could… and yet, you did!
@unkledoda420 There’s a difference between copying and inspiration. If you look at this guys style, it’s inspired by Bois, not copying it. Bois uses a lot more 3D in his videos, and his narratives tend to be more philosophical about sports. This, by comparison, has much less 3D and gives a more general and blunt telling of the situation. Both are good, and they are both similar, but you can’t say this is a copy
@@noinfo1018 For sure. I feel like this is a logical progression (or even deconstruction) of Jon’s style. Jon uses a lot more 3D camera movements and graphics, while Hydn seems to have a more grounded, image-based style. Almost feels like a more older Jon Bois style, and I am ALL here for it
Didn't watch the time and when we got to the break I was thinking "why break so late, I think this 45min video is about to end soon" then I looked at how much was left
@@real.sugarcone People not putting respect on the OGs. Emplemon is another great creator, him and Jon Bois are 1A and 1B for me. His sports videos are incredible, but a little more storytelling. I don't like NASCAR, but his NASCAR videos are some of the best, as well as Art of the Choke.
Jon Bois was the originator, and this video is VERY heavily inspired by his style. He has old videos on his personal channel, with most of his modern videos on the Secret Base/former SB Nation channel
@Vesperninja I mean, Broc openly thanks and credits Bois in his videos and drops references to his stuff all the time (there's at least a couple of sly nods to Bois' "The Bob Emergency" in his videos on the Schön scandal)... So, yeah, no disrespect to the OP but they can't have been looking very hard.
There have been very few times a RUclips video has actually shocked me with how good it was. Something that actually impressed me with how good it was. Something that felt like it left a lasting impression on me. This is one of those videos. This is truly fucking magical man. You deserve every single view, every subscriber, everything that will come your way. This is unreal.
This Honestly might be one if the greatest sports documentaries of all time. I started it thinking, okay i'll watch 30 minutes now then the rest later on. No, I was glued to this video all the way through. It's currently 4:30 in the morning and I'm sad the video ended. I've known about the SMU Death penalty and seen the 30 for 30 many times, but damn this video opened my eyes to so many things I never knew before. Thank you for this masterpiece
I clicked on the video assuming it was a pretty “famous” video essay within the RUclips sports circle, 3 hours later I find out it was posted 8 hours ago after clicking on his channel to find more. 10/10 INCREDIBLE video
GIANT mistake at 1:44:15. You assumed Southern Miss was Southern MISSOURI. It's Southern Mississippi, and at that point in time, they were kinda regarded as pre-Boise State. They would upset SEC schools every now and then with surprising propensity. Bobby Collins went 48-30-2 at Southern Miss.
University of Kentucky: 0:44 University of Louisiana at Lafayette: 12:29 Morehouse College: 24:46 MacMurray College 30:16 Southern Methodist University 32:33
I would say the full turnaround has been achieved for SMU. Peaked at 8th in the standings this year and played in the ACC Championship game in their first year in the conference. Progressing to the CFP bracket is a nice bonus as well.
This has been undoubtedly one of the most impressive documentaries I have ever listened to or watched. I cannot fathom the hours of studying and planning you did to properly present what this topic has to offer. I would love to hear your take on everything that has gone down at Penn State. You have my undivided attention.
My conclusion after watching all of this is that we just need to completely decouple sports from education entirely. It’s bad enough that educational institutions are sending kids out to get brain damage - which is literally the opposite of their job - but these are minor league pro teams that teach classes as a side hustle. Schools don’t need to be in that business.
Agreed. Stop wasting school budgets on sports. Have communities/towns put together rec-leagues. Thats what it was like when I studied abroad in Spain, and they were far ahead of us academically.
@@orppranator5230 School aren't going around banning sports. They can't even get enough funding, I'd like to see them try and ban anything outside school premises.
@@ssheeessh Well, they already told some of my lacrosse cousins that they aren't allowed to go on skiing trips because of the risk of injury. That's banning a non-school-related sport because the school doesn't benefit, so they are already doing that. This is a somewhat common thing to do. Plus, part of the argument behind decoupling sports from schools is that sports consume a large portion of the schools budget, so I'd doubt your point about not getting enough funding right now would continue being a thing. Edit: Just to cut off your next reply, the fact that it's already happening doesn't mean it won't be a problem in the future if schools and sports are separated. Now, the only students affected are the only ones who are already playing their favorite sport and the fact that they can't play additional ones is mostly fine. However, if schools and sports are separated, then that practice of banning sports (more or less) for students is expanded to all students, AND they don't have a main sport that they can play, for the school. (because sports have been separated from schools) Plus, the fact that the schools don't have sports programs anymore would likely mean that they would get overrun with people who don't care about sports or athleticism or competition in general, and that has a whole new set a problems- starting with the fact that boys would fall even further behind because they are much more into all of those things more than girls. If you are to separate schools from sports, you'd have to ban schools from banning or restricting any students from playing sports outside of school, and make physical education a rigorous part of the curriculum.
@@orppranator5230 School is for educating our youth, not giving them permanent brain damage. Factually we are far behind other 1st world countries at this point. Other countries DO NOT waste so much time and money on SCHOOL SPORTS. You can set up *RECREATIONAL LEAGUES* for those with the talent/passion/interest to join. If it's a SCHOOL TEAM, OBVIOUSLY the SCHOOL has a say on what he does to be ON THE SCHOOL TEAM, you clueless fart sniffer. You absolutely proved you have no comprehension of what you're talking about by using that as an example. Also, with your logic, students can fight eachother right across the street after school - and the school has no say? Wtf does your argument even hinge on? You think schools are going to ban students from learning in class, if they choose to go to a rec league after school? Because your preppy cousin couldnt go break his legs AND be on a lacrosse team? Really pathetic how much this country cares about childrens games.
Makes you wonder how much of this could be avoided if the NCAA paid student athletes for all the work they do instead of just exploiting them relentlessly
@@thexenocide6013because majority of those kids are WAY too irresponsible at that age to handle that much money. That and it's harder for coaches to actually "coach" and keep players in line. We're already seeing it in college football. The second a player feels like they're not getting enough playing time or they have to earn their spot on the field, they hit the transfer portal immediately. It has already sucked the soul out of college football in a very short time. There's a shortage of discipline and resilience across the board. That being said, I absolutely agree they should be paid. I just think the whole system needs to be overhauled. It needs A LOT more regulation. It's like they didn't think any of this through and just started throwing money at kids. It's basically the wild west right now as far as how it's being controlled. There basically isn't any.
@@LTR1420if the players are too irresponsible to handle the money right away why not put it in a trust they can access later? I do not believe there is any meritus argument to be made against paying ppl for their labour
Can't believe I was able to sit through the entire 2 hours (while doing chores) about some random people from a niche part of an industry I have no interest about. This deserves a sub!
I'm a fan of pro sports but know nothing about the college level. This was a fascinating story and you made it so that someone unfamiliar with college football could understand it, so kudos!
The fact that the only issue, both factually and editing wise, that I could see in this video was forgetting to cut out you messing up a take after an hour and 56 minutes is absolutely insane You posted this video expecting that next to nobody would see it and yet you still spent ages researching, editing the audio, and putting together the visuals for this absolute masterpiece of a video You have to be incredibly passionate about not just sports history but also content creation to make something so detailed and so well made without expecting any real payment for it I can see you becoming incredibly successful on RUclips, especially since us sports nerds are always thirsty for new content. If you do become successful please make sure you always remember that this is a passion and not a business, because as soon as it becomes a business the quality goes downhill in favour of daily uploads generated by ChatGPT
This video was randomly recommended to me and it was absolutely phenomenal. Instant sub and like, and it's rare that I actually bother to hit the like button even if I enjoy a video. It has to be something truly special.
He's been at it for a couple of years, but take a look at his video "10 Minutes of Useless Basketball Information", then "Athletes Who Died on the Field," then any of his last 5 videos. Bro has been COOKING in the lab. Can't wait to see what's next. He'll be getting job offers from SBNation or something similar pretty soon
@@YOSSARIAN313 after the SMU thing the NCAA will only give the death penalty if a school is stupid enough to blatantly break the rules twice within a short period. It's a pretty shitty idea imo, because it means that you can still cheat (or cover up for your rapist players) and as long as you wait until probation is over before you start breaking the rules again then you'll provably be ok since it'll take the NCAA a while to catch you again At least Penn State had to vacate all their victories in the period where the school was covering up Sandusky's crimes, that's the closest the NCAA will get to handing down the death penalty for a school that isn't a "repeat offender"
@@YOSSARIAN313Yeah, and after it all came out the only thing we had to do was give the women’s basketball coach a parachute and a sword to fall on. Never mind that it was our mens squads that were implicated-we kept both our mens football and basketball coaches. Love me school, love me town, love me Carolina Blue, but that was shameful af-simple as
This is one of those videos I stumble upon randomly every once in a while. I came across it on my home page, and the title intrigued me, so I thought; "I'm gonna check out what this death penalty is about", fully intending to only watch long enough to know what was meant by the title. An hour and a half later I'm absolutely glued to the screen, hanging on to every word, and googling a bunch of terms and names mentioned, wanting to know more. Absolutely outstanding production. A video essay about sports history and athletic politics seems to be a combination of a few of my interests. I feel like this type of untamed curiosity will either make me, or be the death of me. Maybe both.
Absolutely amazing reminds me of dorktown episodes!! Although every sports fan already knows the stories, I think showing the records after what led up to them would build suspense more
@@gangstalker5461 Well, if Hydn watched BobbyBroccoli's video "How to make videos like Jon Bois", then it's kinda both. Yes, BobbyBroccoli _absolutely_ bites the style. But he also gives Jon Bois his flowers. Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. Just sayin' 🤷🏼♂️
hydn, this is absolutely phenomenal work and I'm only 40 minutes in. I hope the damn algorithm gets its collective crap together and boosts this accordingly for ya.
Ohhh, so this is what non-science obsessed people feel like when they watch a Bobby Broccoli video. I'm sticking around. Finally someone's made sports history interesting to me outside of AFC Wimbledon.
Tl; Dr - there is a special board of jurors in USA that can dispatch death penalty to certain players foe cheating or simply bad performance. There have been 274 executions since 1903.
Haven’t finished this yet but man I hope this one brings you higher in the algorithm. You’ve been killing it so far and it sucks that people haven’t been able to find you
God, there’s so much of this story I love. The way Ronnie leaves in the middle of the scheme and lets the boosters hold the blame, how the whole scheme is exposed just when it’s about to end, just everything about it. This story is built for a movie, but if that never happens, then I’m fine with this video.
Out of all the sports documentaries I've watched on RUclips (way too many) this is going down as one of my favorites. Your storytelling and editing in this video is spectacular and is extremely impressive for a movie length video. The time and effort you put in is shown in the video and this topic definitely deserved the thoroughness you put in. I'm excited to go back through your videos and watch some other stuff you have made. I'm glad the RUclips algorithm blessed me with this video. Cant wait to see what's next!
If I may be quite honest, my honest critique is that you should've made 4 gravestones and had a line going down from SMU out of frame. Only to then zoom out to reveal a gravestone that dwarfs the graph and a coffin even bigger. Then break it into two parts, the non-SMU stuff and SMU. The two hour run time might make some people balk, and to be honest you've separated the two stories very well. It also inspires questions in the audience. "Was it really that bad? Is there really that much more than the first two, which are big but not huge?" Then when the hour 30 video releases two weeks later, you're more primed for people to sit and watch vs balk. Build hype for this masterpiece, this full meal that the first bit is the mere appetizer for. As it is, it sort of feels like a book with 4 short stories and a novel. Some people like more bite sized pieces and some like to watch longform content. As it stands, neither is quite happy, because the people who'd sit down for a 30 minute video balk at 2 hours, while if you ever rewatch this to hear the SMU story, you have to sit through "Tennis club for no name school made scholarships when they shouldn't have scholarships, disbanded." I'd also just say two videos also gets you two chances to buy the lottery ticket that is the youtube algorithm. I think one day you'll be Jon Bois/BobbyBroccoli level views, so every scratch off in this loony cold environment is one more chance to get what you rightfully deserve. There's a reason those two have multi-parters. It builds hype in addition to making project size more manageable, allowing more regular uploads to game the youtube algorithm. So long as there isn't a gigantic gap, people will tune in weekly or biweekly for their next fix if it is one story, or monthly or bimonthly for the next video. I'm not some RUclips superstar, but I sort of felt like pausing the video the second I saw two hours, but decided to watch. And saw the first gravestone was over in 5 minutes. "Man, the other 4 gravestones are 30 minutes each?" Repeat until you skip SMU, "Wait, why is it in this video then, maybe the other two have a BIT more than the first two." And my response after the first four is this.
An absolutely phenomenally done Video. Enough detail to be incredibly thorough, enough flair to be entertaining, and just enough vagueness to be intriguing to keep watching.
The Morehouse situation was interesting given that, for schools with larger funds, they could circumvent the problem by investing in their club programs or in the case of Brigham Young University, buy a semi pro team and field a team against actual soccer players. But, when you're Division 2, and an HBCU at that, that money isn't there so how they fielded a team required a lot of loopholes.
Top tier video man I just rewatched your blowout vid the other day but this is really something else. I’ll definitely be rewatching this many times over the years!
As much as anyone wants to claim it, what happened at Penn St had ZERO to do with anything involving NCAA rules or players. The correct actions were taken, and the guilty party rots in jail. Anyone who wanted Penn St to get the death penalty just does so because they want themselves to feel better and claim some moral superiority they never had.
@@alexcharmander6973 Baylor was a far worse situation. But if you truly want to see who deserved the death penalty, just look at the histories of Alabama, Auburn and Florida.
@@lougiacobbi725 bro those schools all have incredibly long and complicated histories, I'm not about to read through the entire history of Bama, Auburn, and Florida athletics just to find the specific scandals you're talking about. Please be more specific, because I'm very interested
Basketball is by far my least favorite of the big 4 American sports, and I know little to nothing about it, only being able to name star players like Kobe, Lebron, Jordan, Iverson, Byrd, and Currey, and only being able to rattle off a handful of teams in the NBA, and I know virtually nothing about college sports outside of watching the occasional football rivalry game and my FSU softball, but this was a great, fun watch and I'm glad the algorithm brought me here. Thank you for sharing.
It’s about 1:30am EST October 12th, 2024. This video has been out for less than 11 hours has about 9300 views and Hydn has just over 12000 subs. I feel like those metrics will go up a bit soon 😁
This video is incredible, had me hooked the whole time! One note: at 47:41, you use the word “female” instead of “woman”, which is usually a big red flag that I would associate with misogynists dogwhistling to each other. I don’t think you did it on purpose, but just so you know going forward.
This is the kind of video that gets picked up by the algorithm and randomly gets recommended to the entire population 3 years later.
I don't even like college sports. But here I am.
Or 3 days
@@quantumbeak1317 literally lol I know near nothing about the subject too
Yep. But its a good video
Which is wild how hard this hit now, after just a week on the block
This was a pretty smart way to make a documentary about SMU while getting far more people to click by giving it a flashier title, while still delivering 100% on that title
the perfect balance!
it worked on me! i was intrigued but then got so invested in the whole SMU plot
The “repeated violator” clause, the official name for the “Death Penalty,” reminds me of a nuclear warhead that is used against SMU; unfortunately, like Hiroshima and Nagasaki, nobody wants to use it upon realizing the sort of devastation that would leave an athletic program into.
Close enough, welcome back Jon Bois
LOL
This guy’s bobbybroccoli but sports
@@corbingrubb5307bobbybroccoli is Jon Bois but other shit (I love bobbybroccoli)
@@corbingrubb5307Bobby broccoli is Jon Bois for science
Joe Fellas
Digital proof that sports fans are the biggest nerds on the planet
Have you ever watched a Jon Bois video, by chance? He’s the reason I understand that sports people and math people are the same people.
Its always the ones you least expect
I don't disagree but anime pfp's have no business saying anyone else is a nerd
Eh more that sports cast a wide enough net
@@wrecker132 You appear to misunderstand. It’s not supposed to be an insult.
4 of 5 schools down and there's only *nearly two full hours of video left*
Update that was craaaazy
@@ElaineClush ikr
Literal exact same reaction I had
the opposite of clickbait perhaps
wait this video is 2h long holy- I better grab the popcorn
My ass seated with my phone silent waiting for the film to start.
Grab your popcorn and put your phone on silent
My dads uncle was on the 1950 CCNY team and got a lifetime suspension from the NBA. Never thought I’d see anything about it on youtube.
"CCNY vs. Kentucky 1951. Nobody beat the spread. I bought a black Fleetwood" - Junior Soprano
That scandal killed the Olympians. Groza and Beard not only has ownership but were the stars, so them getting banned and having to sell their shares for nothing meant Indianapolis has no real players and no money, so after '53, they closed up shop.
He’s your uncle too … just saying 😂
@@Supreme36074my grandpas brother so my great uncle yeah
@ bout to say don’t be trying to deny him lol.. joking with ya 😂
“Spike Lee, most famous for the 2k16 my career storyline” is so good
Vic was killed by Freq and it was justified. 100%. Vic blackmails Freq about covering up a manslaughter freq committed when they were both teenagers. vic asks freq if he can have Freq's sports car in return for the blackmail. he agrees. a day later, Vic dies in a car crash during a car chase from some individuals Vic pissed off previously. pretty sure Freq messed with the car's breaks
how am i watching a high level 2 hour production with 500 views on youtube
No idea how he’s still flying under the radar
3,200 4 hours later. This might be blowing up
genuinely insane how this channel is so underrated
Not trying to throw shade, but hope he’s like BobbyBroccoli in more ways than presentation: at one point BBrocc did the same until he hit a critical mass of subscribers. Hydn is getting there.
Up to about 20k in 18 hours. I wouldn’t be surprised if it hits 100k by tomorrow.
This is about to hit the algorithm perfectly
Sup
i dont watch football, know nothing about college football…yeah algorithm caught this one and showed it favour
Yep it did
@@stumble_arcana Same here. I literally have zero interest in football, let alone college football. And yet, I watched the whole thing.
Yo porco rosso is awesome
as someone currently getting their degree in history, the mastermind behind a mid-level d2 soccer team that the president of the university didn’t even know existed being a history professor makes 100% sense, we’re never normal
idk what to reply to this im just tryna reply to every comment to boost algorithm rates
This is a historically long sentence.
As a history teacher it’s so true. We’re all a bit eccentric. I knew a professor that used the butt fumble to explain Hammurabi’s code.
@@MCKevin289 now this i GOTTA hear
@@jamesdeanspacemarine1663
He was talking about examples of workplace malpractice and incompetence that would get you in trouble with the law in Hammurabi’s code.
A compliment upfront: You made me watch a feature-length documentary about something I don't care about (college athletics), involving sports I know nothing about (U.S. sports looks odd from an outside perspective), from a time when I was not alive. I don't regret watching any minute of it. Good job!
Funnily (well, not if you're a fan), something similar to the death penalty happened to my home town's American football team just last year. The Marburg Mercenaries, a team who played in the German Football League and who had even found some success on a European level, had to completely kill their men's team. They have now permanently withdrawn from the first and second division of the German Football League, meaning they will never play on a professional level again. The reason: For years, they had handed out fake European passports and false identities to U.S. players, in order to circumvent the cap on how many Americans were allowed on each team. That's not only unfair, it's also very illegal, and a couple of former staff members have been charged with felonies (awaiting trial, but expecting prison sentences). A sad end to two decades of rising success that turned out to have been as fake as the identities of their players.
Fitting that a team called the Mercenaries hired extra help from abroad
@@felixcroc It's a bit ironic, yes.
I somehow had no idea this was a thing and am cracking up at the idea of European football leagues limiting the number of Americans a team can have 😭
@@shayd4107 Considering the enormous advantage that comes from college football (a concept that's completely foreign to Europe), I suppose this rule makes sense. There's too much of an incentive to stack teams with players from that background.
I am from england and have never followed college football. This was the best documentary i have seen all year
Check out Jon Bois! He's the progenitor of this style of sports media.
Look I’m not the first one to make the Jon Bois joke, nor will I be the last, but I hope Hydn knows how much of a compliment that is. Jon Bois makes hour-long videos nerding out about sports (or various topics) with funny graphics and interesting music choices, and he is a legend.
This is a 2-hour video of a guy nerding out about sports using funny graphics accompanied by interesting music. Hydn is a LEGEND!
Enjoy your stay in the legend club, man. I could never do something like this- not many could… and yet, you did!
anyone should know how legendary my boy jon bois is and i see him growing in this man
So your idea of a "legend" is just being a shameless copycat?
@unkledoda420 There’s a difference between copying and inspiration. If you look at this guys style, it’s inspired by Bois, not copying it. Bois uses a lot more 3D in his videos, and his narratives tend to be more philosophical about sports. This, by comparison, has much less 3D and gives a more general and blunt telling of the situation. Both are good, and they are both similar, but you can’t say this is a copy
@@noinfo1018 For sure. I feel like this is a logical progression (or even deconstruction) of Jon’s style. Jon uses a lot more 3D camera movements and graphics, while Hydn seems to have a more grounded, image-based style. Almost feels like a more older Jon Bois style, and I am ALL here for it
@@fuktrumpanzeeskumthat’s bitterness and ignorant! 🤫
Didn't watch the time and when we got to the break I was thinking "why break so late, I think this 45min video is about to end soon" then I looked at how much was left
same
Thats how long video essays always trip you up always more
Stay awake for 90 minute college course? Lame. Listen to a 2 hour and 18 minutes video essay on the death penalty. Hell yeah.
I literally went "huh, huh?!" out loud when I saw how much was left.
The algorithm finally reached me.
I am seated.
kick back relax and enjoy the show
the bobbybrocolli of sports
true
BobbyBroccoli has always been the Jon Bois of science.
@@real.sugarcone People not putting respect on the OGs. Emplemon is another great creator, him and Jon Bois are 1A and 1B for me. His sports videos are incredible, but a little more storytelling. I don't like NASCAR, but his NASCAR videos are some of the best, as well as Art of the Choke.
can't believe someone made this comment before me :p
I get the joke, but I still wanna throw respect on the man’s name, genre creator and still the best in the biz, Jon Bois (Boiz)
You know how long i've been looking for a SPORTS version of BobbyBroccolli
I was thinking the same thing. Its a hell of an aesthetic.
Look into Jon Bois, from what I've heard he's the og for this style
Jon Bois was the originator, and this video is VERY heavily inspired by his style. He has old videos on his personal channel, with most of his modern videos on the Secret Base/former SB Nation channel
@Vesperninja I mean, Broc openly thanks and credits Bois in his videos and drops references to his stuff all the time (there's at least a couple of sly nods to Bois' "The Bob Emergency" in his videos on the Schön scandal)... So, yeah, no disrespect to the OP but they can't have been looking very hard.
This is such egregious Jon Bois erasure that I can only assume you're joking.
The bobbybroccoli vibes are through the roof here and I’m so here for it
Bruh seeing this title and thumbnail is like a jumpscare lmao
There have been very few times a RUclips video has actually shocked me with how good it was. Something that actually impressed me with how good it was. Something that felt like it left a lasting impression on me. This is one of those videos.
This is truly fucking magical man. You deserve every single view, every subscriber, everything that will come your way. This is unreal.
This Honestly might be one if the greatest sports documentaries of all time. I started it thinking, okay i'll watch 30 minutes now then the rest later on. No, I was glued to this video all the way through. It's currently 4:30 in the morning and I'm sad the video ended. I've known about the SMU Death penalty and seen the 30 for 30 many times, but damn this video opened my eyes to so many things I never knew before. Thank you for this masterpiece
it is 4am, this is a great documentary. i’m sure it took endless reading and research to create it. thank you jon bois for making this possible.
I clicked on the video assuming it was a pretty “famous” video essay within the RUclips sports circle, 3 hours later I find out it was posted 8 hours ago after clicking on his channel to find more. 10/10 INCREDIBLE video
I’m watching a 2.5 hour video about a sport I don’t even care about. Not even at the pro level, it’s about college ball.
10 stars, amazing video.
GIANT mistake at 1:44:15. You assumed Southern Miss was Southern MISSOURI. It's Southern Mississippi, and at that point in time, they were kinda regarded as pre-Boise State. They would upset SEC schools every now and then with surprising propensity. Bobby Collins went 48-30-2 at Southern Miss.
This channel will blow up in the next 6 months. You can just tell from the quality and storytelling.
University of Kentucky: 0:44
University of Louisiana at Lafayette: 12:29
Morehouse College: 24:46
MacMurray College 30:16
Southern Methodist University 32:33
Kentcuky 4:56
@@averagedelta Kentcuky 9:02
I would say the full turnaround has been achieved for SMU. Peaked at 8th in the standings this year and played in the ACC Championship game in their first year in the conference. Progressing to the CFP bracket is a nice bonus as well.
2024: Somehow, SMU has returned.
Not really
@robertmckelvey5360 hey thanks for the feedback man
This has been undoubtedly one of the most impressive documentaries I have ever listened to or watched. I cannot fathom the hours of studying and planning you did to properly present what this topic has to offer. I would love to hear your take on everything that has gone down at Penn State. You have my undivided attention.
Check out Jon Bois, he originated this style and he's got tons more docs like it. The Seattle Mariners doc in particular is my favorite.
@@taliaroses Sure! I'll check him out. Thank you for the recommendation!
This may be one of the most impressive videos I have seen by a small creator
My conclusion after watching all of this is that we just need to completely decouple sports from education entirely. It’s bad enough that educational institutions are sending kids out to get brain damage - which is literally the opposite of their job - but these are minor league pro teams that teach classes as a side hustle. Schools don’t need to be in that business.
Agreed. Stop wasting school budgets on sports. Have communities/towns put together rec-leagues. Thats what it was like when I studied abroad in Spain, and they were far ahead of us academically.
Yeah, but then you might run into problems with schools banning students from playing sports because the schools don't directly benefit.
@@orppranator5230 School aren't going around banning sports. They can't even get enough funding, I'd like to see them try and ban anything outside school premises.
@@ssheeessh Well, they already told some of my lacrosse cousins that they aren't allowed to go on skiing trips because of the risk of injury. That's banning a non-school-related sport because the school doesn't benefit, so they are already doing that. This is a somewhat common thing to do.
Plus, part of the argument behind decoupling sports from schools is that sports consume a large portion of the schools budget, so I'd doubt your point about not getting enough funding right now would continue being a thing.
Edit:
Just to cut off your next reply, the fact that it's already happening doesn't mean it won't be a problem in the future if schools and sports are separated. Now, the only students affected are the only ones who are already playing their favorite sport and the fact that they can't play additional ones is mostly fine.
However, if schools and sports are separated, then that practice of banning sports (more or less) for students is expanded to all students, AND they don't have a main sport that they can play, for the school. (because sports have been separated from schools)
Plus, the fact that the schools don't have sports programs anymore would likely mean that they would get overrun with people who don't care about sports or athleticism or competition in general, and that has a whole new set a problems- starting with the fact that boys would fall even further behind because they are much more into all of those things more than girls.
If you are to separate schools from sports, you'd have to ban schools from banning or restricting any students from playing sports outside of school, and make physical education a rigorous part of the curriculum.
@@orppranator5230
School is for educating our youth, not giving them permanent brain damage. Factually we are far behind other 1st world countries at this point.
Other countries DO NOT waste so much time and money on SCHOOL SPORTS.
You can set up *RECREATIONAL LEAGUES* for those with the talent/passion/interest to join.
If it's a SCHOOL TEAM, OBVIOUSLY the SCHOOL has a say on what he does to be ON THE SCHOOL TEAM, you clueless fart sniffer. You absolutely proved you have no comprehension of what you're talking about by using that as an example.
Also, with your logic, students can fight eachother right across the street after school - and the school has no say?
Wtf does your argument even hinge on?
You think schools are going to ban students from learning in class, if they choose to go to a rec league after school?
Because your preppy cousin couldnt go break his legs AND be on a lacrosse team?
Really pathetic how much this country cares about childrens games.
I’m British, and couldn’t care less about American high school sports but this might be the best video I’ve watched in years on this app.
saying spike lee is most famous for the 2k16 storyline is kinda funny. if it was satire, u nailed it.
I've gotta imagine it was. Guy's too well informed to say that without it being tongue in cheek. It *is* very funny too.
@@TheSteakJusticeI agree with you there.
"Stan Lee known for his cameos," type comment.
@@Farm_Emo more like "Stan Lee known for his cameo in Daredevil"
As a non American who plays the MyCareers of the 2K games, 2K16 was indeed the first time I've heard about Spike Lee. So for me, weirdly accurate
Makes you wonder how much of this could be avoided if the NCAA paid student athletes for all the work they do instead of just exploiting them relentlessly
Man I wish I could double dislike your comment
@@Zander10102 not a sports fan no horse in this race. how come? want to understand the perspective
@@thexenocide6013racism
@@thexenocide6013because majority of those kids are WAY too irresponsible at that age to handle that much money. That and it's harder for coaches to actually "coach" and keep players in line. We're already seeing it in college football. The second a player feels like they're not getting enough playing time or they have to earn their spot on the field, they hit the transfer portal immediately. It has already sucked the soul out of college football in a very short time. There's a shortage of discipline and resilience across the board. That being said, I absolutely agree they should be paid. I just think the whole system needs to be overhauled. It needs A LOT more regulation. It's like they didn't think any of this through and just started throwing money at kids. It's basically the wild west right now as far as how it's being controlled. There basically isn't any.
@@LTR1420if the players are too irresponsible to handle the money right away why not put it in a trust they can access later? I do not believe there is any meritus argument to be made against paying ppl for their labour
Can't believe I was able to sit through the entire 2 hours (while doing chores) about some random people from a niche part of an industry I have no interest about. This deserves a sub!
I'm a fan of pro sports but know nothing about the college level. This was a fascinating story and you made it so that someone unfamiliar with college football could understand it, so kudos!
The fact that the only issue, both factually and editing wise, that I could see in this video was forgetting to cut out you messing up a take after an hour and 56 minutes is absolutely insane
You posted this video expecting that next to nobody would see it and yet you still spent ages researching, editing the audio, and putting together the visuals for this absolute masterpiece of a video
You have to be incredibly passionate about not just sports history but also content creation to make something so detailed and so well made without expecting any real payment for it
I can see you becoming incredibly successful on RUclips, especially since us sports nerds are always thirsty for new content. If you do become successful please make sure you always remember that this is a passion and not a business, because as soon as it becomes a business the quality goes downhill in favour of daily uploads generated by ChatGPT
the random audio clicking is driving me fucking insane. fantastic video but my brain is freaking out at the random audio glitches
Damn the NCAA didnt even give a last meal 😔
You know what I dont know shit about sports but youve done a great job at selling the premise in the first 5 minutes. I'm in for the whole ride
This video was randomly recommended to me and it was absolutely phenomenal. Instant sub and like, and it's rare that I actually bother to hit the like button even if I enjoy a video. It has to be something truly special.
obligatory how the hell do you have under 100k subs
He's been at it for a couple of years, but take a look at his video "10 Minutes of Useless Basketball Information", then "Athletes Who Died on the Field," then any of his last 5 videos. Bro has been COOKING in the lab. Can't wait to see what's next. He'll be getting job offers from SBNation or something similar pretty soon
11.6k just feels wrong. He has the quality of a channel 20x bigger
@@o3_o3_28because sadly most people don’t want to watch videos this long that aren’t just brain rot
@@Nonamegoodsir4332 because sadly most people don't want to watch videos this long -that aren't just brain rot-
There. I fixed it for you.
Everyone needs their breakout hit. This fella just got his
What's really crazy is that Penn State didnt recieve a permanet death penalty for the Sandusky stuff
Or UNC for their academic scandal. They literally had their accredation threatened
It was astounding to me.
@@YOSSARIAN313Baylor probably should have received it as well for their scandal
@@YOSSARIAN313 after the SMU thing the NCAA will only give the death penalty if a school is stupid enough to blatantly break the rules twice within a short period. It's a pretty shitty idea imo, because it means that you can still cheat (or cover up for your rapist players) and as long as you wait until probation is over before you start breaking the rules again then you'll provably be ok since it'll take the NCAA a while to catch you again
At least Penn State had to vacate all their victories in the period where the school was covering up Sandusky's crimes, that's the closest the NCAA will get to handing down the death penalty for a school that isn't a "repeat offender"
@@YOSSARIAN313Yeah, and after it all came out the only thing we had to do was give the women’s basketball coach a parachute and a sword to fall on. Never mind that it was our mens squads that were implicated-we kept both our mens football and basketball coaches.
Love me school, love me town, love me Carolina Blue, but that was shameful af-simple as
This is one of those videos I stumble upon randomly every once in a while. I came across it on my home page, and the title intrigued me, so I thought; "I'm gonna check out what this death penalty is about", fully intending to only watch long enough to know what was meant by the title. An hour and a half later I'm absolutely glued to the screen, hanging on to every word, and googling a bunch of terms and names mentioned, wanting to know more. Absolutely outstanding production. A video essay about sports history and athletic politics seems to be a combination of a few of my interests. I feel like this type of untamed curiosity will either make me, or be the death of me. Maybe both.
Absolutely amazing reminds me of dorktown episodes!!
Although every sports fan already knows the stories, I think showing the records after what led up to them would build suspense more
I didn't know Bobby broccoli had a second channel (the quality feels like a bobby broccoli video great job man)
Jon bois* I love bobby but it makes me mad to see people crediting him with this style
@@gangstalker5461 Well, if Hydn watched BobbyBroccoli's video "How to make videos like Jon Bois", then it's kinda both.
Yes, BobbyBroccoli _absolutely_ bites the style.
But he also gives Jon Bois his flowers.
Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.
Just sayin' 🤷🏼♂️
**Jon Bois influence detected**
0:15 already love the bobby broccoli editing/animation style
4:19 kentcuky 🤔
You can see it in a different place at 20:56, is this actually a typo or some kind of running joke?
you a she
hydn, this is absolutely phenomenal work and I'm only 40 minutes in. I hope the damn algorithm gets its collective crap together and boosts this accordingly for ya.
Ohhh, so this is what non-science obsessed people feel like when they watch a Bobby Broccoli video.
I'm sticking around. Finally someone's made sports history interesting to me outside of AFC Wimbledon.
Tl; Dr - there is a special board of jurors in USA that can dispatch death penalty to certain players foe cheating or simply bad performance. There have been 274 executions since 1903.
My dumbass thought this was gonna be about sports related executions
me too and I don’t really care about sports at all but I’m watching this whole video and finding it so interesting lol
I don’t subscribe to new channels too often, but you’ve earned my attention. Captivating video
Haven’t finished this yet but man I hope this one brings you higher in the algorithm. You’ve been killing it so far and it sucks that people haven’t been able to find you
thanks to this video and shaq I finally learned how to read
God, there’s so much of this story I love. The way Ronnie leaves in the middle of the scheme and lets the boosters hold the blame, how the whole scheme is exposed just when it’s about to end, just everything about it. This story is built for a movie, but if that never happens, then I’m fine with this video.
whole time i was making it i kept thinking, someone with the resources HAS to make this a feature film. there’s so much you could do
@@hydn. hopefully one day someone completes the story on that end. But for you, you did as well as you could. Thanks for telling this story.
You’re one of my favourite creators, so inspiring!!!!
You’re a legend, Haydn
Keep grinding!!!
💜
Out of all the sports documentaries I've watched on RUclips (way too many) this is going down as one of my favorites. Your storytelling and editing in this video is spectacular and is extremely impressive for a movie length video. The time and effort you put in is shown in the video and this topic definitely deserved the thoroughness you put in. I'm excited to go back through your videos and watch some other stuff you have made. I'm glad the RUclips algorithm blessed me with this video. Cant wait to see what's next!
If I may be quite honest, my honest critique is that you should've made 4 gravestones and had a line going down from SMU out of frame. Only to then zoom out to reveal a gravestone that dwarfs the graph and a coffin even bigger. Then break it into two parts, the non-SMU stuff and SMU. The two hour run time might make some people balk, and to be honest you've separated the two stories very well. It also inspires questions in the audience. "Was it really that bad? Is there really that much more than the first two, which are big but not huge?" Then when the hour 30 video releases two weeks later, you're more primed for people to sit and watch vs balk. Build hype for this masterpiece, this full meal that the first bit is the mere appetizer for.
As it is, it sort of feels like a book with 4 short stories and a novel. Some people like more bite sized pieces and some like to watch longform content. As it stands, neither is quite happy, because the people who'd sit down for a 30 minute video balk at 2 hours, while if you ever rewatch this to hear the SMU story, you have to sit through "Tennis club for no name school made scholarships when they shouldn't have scholarships, disbanded."
I'd also just say two videos also gets you two chances to buy the lottery ticket that is the youtube algorithm. I think one day you'll be Jon Bois/BobbyBroccoli level views, so every scratch off in this loony cold environment is one more chance to get what you rightfully deserve.
There's a reason those two have multi-parters. It builds hype in addition to making project size more manageable, allowing more regular uploads to game the youtube algorithm. So long as there isn't a gigantic gap, people will tune in weekly or biweekly for their next fix if it is one story, or monthly or bimonthly for the next video.
I'm not some RUclips superstar, but I sort of felt like pausing the video the second I saw two hours, but decided to watch. And saw the first gravestone was over in 5 minutes. "Man, the other 4 gravestones are 30 minutes each?" Repeat until you skip SMU, "Wait, why is it in this video then, maybe the other two have a BIT more than the first two." And my response after the first four is this.
I’d hire you as a producer.
not even a minute into this i can already tell you'll be one of my fav creators
TWO HOUR HYDN VIDEO?!?!?!?!?!?!? ARE YOU KIDDING ME?! You are fr the goat dude.
What a thriller of a video! You sir have an immense talent for storytelling. Thank you
Such a good channel
Hope you continue with these longer form charty style videos
Hope you keep growing
An absolutely phenomenally done Video. Enough detail to be incredibly thorough, enough flair to be entertaining, and just enough vagueness to be intriguing to keep watching.
This video feels like the death penalty topic was an excuse to talk about SMU and Ronnie
The Morehouse situation was interesting given that, for schools with larger funds, they could circumvent the problem by investing in their club programs or in the case of Brigham Young University, buy a semi pro team and field a team against actual soccer players. But, when you're Division 2, and an HBCU at that, that money isn't there so how they fielded a team required a lot of loopholes.
as someone who typically doesn't care much for sports, this video had me enraptured
Hope this video blows up for you. These are great vids.
Top tier video man I just rewatched your blowout vid the other day but this is really something else. I’ll definitely be rewatching this many times over the years!
Dude you COOKED with this, genuinely loved the way you presented the stories! Immediately subscribing
I guess I have nothing else to do
watching this in my smu dorm… this is the most comprehensive explanation i’ve ever heard, the details are insane!!
Penn State 100% should have gotten a 1 year death penalty for that shit.
Could be argued baylor should’ve gotten it aswell for what went on under art briles
As much as anyone wants to claim it, what happened at Penn St had ZERO to do with anything involving NCAA rules or players. The correct actions were taken, and the guilty party rots in jail. Anyone who wanted Penn St to get the death penalty just does so because they want themselves to feel better and claim some moral superiority they never had.
@@alexcharmander6973 Baylor was a far worse situation. But if you truly want to see who deserved the death penalty, just look at the histories of Alabama, Auburn and Florida.
@@lougiacobbi725 bro those schools all have incredibly long and complicated histories, I'm not about to read through the entire history of Bama, Auburn, and Florida athletics just to find the specific scandals you're talking about. Please be more specific, because I'm very interested
Basketball is by far my least favorite of the big 4 American sports, and I know little to nothing about it, only being able to name star players like Kobe, Lebron, Jordan, Iverson, Byrd, and Currey, and only being able to rattle off a handful of teams in the NBA, and I know virtually nothing about college sports outside of watching the occasional football rivalry game and my FSU softball, but this was a great, fun watch and I'm glad the algorithm brought me here. Thank you for sharing.
It’s about 1:30am EST October 12th, 2024. This video has been out for less than 11 hours has about 9300 views and Hydn has just over 12000 subs. I feel like those metrics will go up a bit soon 😁
Bro I don't even like sports all that much, and yet this is one of the best produced videos I have ever watched
Jon Bois inspired an entire generation of youtubers
This is such high quality content. Wasn’t aware of Bo Lamar’s game. Thanks for the dedication to the craft.
This video is incredible, had me hooked the whole time!
One note: at 47:41, you use the word “female” instead of “woman”, which is usually a big red flag that I would associate with misogynists dogwhistling to each other. I don’t think you did it on purpose, but just so you know going forward.
oh, yt's recommendation system understands me alright
here from BobbyBroccoli
I think having the team logos more promininent in the thumbnail in some way would increase clicks, banger video
Insane quality, can’t believe I watched the whole thing. Keep up this quality content man
bro how do you only have 12k subs?? this is one of the best videos ive sat thru wtf
So basically smu is good now bc they mastered the NIL game before people were allowed to play it
if bobbybroccoli was a sports communication major
I LITERALLY WAS i feel violated
"Man, I need to clean. If only there was something I could listen to."
*The 2 hour documentary on something I know nothing about:*
I LOVE sport essays, no matter how niche. I 👏🏼 AM 👏🏼 SAT 👏🏼
Ah, new video. You know what that means: going to watch it then rewatch your entire catalog again.
This is fucking electric. Amazing work
This might be the best youtube video i have ever seen.
If the algorithm is worth anything, this will have three million views by 4 weeks
The death penalty has evolved in sports over the years. In baseball for example, they simply trade you to the Mariners now.
Penn state and UNC(for their academic scandal) should have probably gotten the death penaltt
Probably one of the greatest sports videos I’ve ever seen. Took me a solid week to watch this but it was so well put together
SHOUT OUT SLII, SLI, USL, ULL
I dont even understand American football yet this was one of the most engaging video essays I’ve ever watched
we got a second bobbybroccoli and i’m here for it honestly
More like a third Jon Bois but yes