As a semi casual I've taken time to test all of the top Necro builds, and yes I've gotten higher single hits/ screen damage with Golem, but survivability is awful, replacing the chest with tyriels might means you have to sacrifice Golem on chest, so it makes sense to focus on mages if you want survivability If you aren't amazing at dodging mechanics and perfectly proccing/ sequencing your skills, survivability is way more important than highest DPS or single shot damage After changing my whole set up 6 times in a week, I keep going back to Goblin's bone storm build, when I get my 4th spark I'll craft Tyriels might and try his army of the dead version
i feel like i can't consistently get the shadowblight passive to proc which makes me feel like im wasting my 2h weapon aspect. my build is identical except swapped army of dead. am i just killing things too fast? not doing pit yet
Hey the mid-game variation you say to check out has bone storm as the ult but then talks about "swapping reapers because we're getting corpses from army of the dead and yet reapers are still on making corpses? Just giving you a heads up might wanna update it.
When I select Blood Golum and use the first one with Damage Reduction, where can I see if the DR actually is working? When I hover over my skill bar It still lists it as the blood draining option 🤔. And when I activate the skill it starts to drain....It seems bugged
Is it okay to replace either ring with the Ring of Sacrilegious Soul? For example the Conceited Aspect? On Console targeting for Corpse Tendrils is so janky this ring is a huge QoL improvement.
Would it be a big dps loss to use a 1hander and offhand to get an extra legendary power? Like juggernaut. Or to fit in a ring of Scarligous? One that auto tendrils and summons. It’s so good for console gamers hate not using it
Dude same. I’m on Xbox and I can’t play necro without it. I made my toon 3 days ago and he’s doing pit 120 on a lazy necro build with the legendary ring that auto casts and the one handed scythe that makes corpse explosion destroy.
I was excited to check this video out but I ended up getting confused when comparing the gear stats on the video and what's on the moba page. :( disappointing.
Hi Goblin , Thank you for the video what gems on weapon do you recommend on mobalytics it says emerald but it shows varnuerable dmg (sapphire ) so I am confuses shall I run green gem on weapon or blue
Thanks for this. I have been experimenting with Occult Dominion on the Amulet for 3 extra mages rather than the normal two and it seems pretty good. Dropped Conceited and moved reanimation to a ring. Then took Hulking aspect on the boots for some extra corpses. Even considering putting occulted dom on the 2h for 4 extra mages. Then put Blighted on the amy.
I like this build a lot, and i like the use of Blood Mist which i feel like a lot of people are not running right now because they arent pushing. I also prefer Explosive Mist to Conceited. I just dont like Conceited, i think its boring. I think theres a good amount of points for this build in the skill tree that are pretty optional, so 3 pts in Corpse Explosion doesn't hurt. I believe the Reapers are also bugged, so using the corpse generating slot also gets you the cooldown reduction (correct me if im wrong there). There are sooo many supplemental corpses with this setup, corpse explosion just helps even more with Blighted, and the extra CD reduction you get on Blood Mist basically makes this an Shadow Infinismist Minion build 😂
It's not min maxed but I have the gloves that turn the Corpse Explosion into missiles and the ring that automates Corpse Explosion and Corpse Tendrils (and the priest), so I have the skeleton warriors creating corpses plus the passive and th automation takes over. The golem is the weak part of my build and tbh I feel like I could trade it for something elsebut atm my input is just Amplfy + Golem active. After seeing this I could be tempted into trading it for Bone Storm which was my original plan but that got waylaid, but Bone Storm is a thing to be trying to aim for perma and with all these changes it just slows the recharge by too much for me to think if there is a point.
Hey man, does *Conceited* works with minions damage? I'm assuming not since they have no barrier and if so what other source of damage you use this for?
Hey! Amazing build mate. It shreds! - One question tho. Whats up with the last point in the Paragon board Blood Begets legendary note. Did I miss something. How do you generate Blood Orbs? :S
So your planner shows a heavy emphasis on Golem while the video shits on Golem. Kinda confused. Also on both Paragon boards , you're showing the Golem glyph. Something must be wrong here.
"Beside Nightmare Bosses". So you can run the Dungeons and the PIT, but at the end struggle with bosses. I have stated this many times. A good video of someone stating how good their build needs the following requirements: A. Game Play in Nightmare Dungeon and the PIT and including showing play against the Boss (Make sure we can see what Level it is). When you leave specific game play out. The build is suspect.
Just made a swap over to Bone spirit at level 80. (playing with my wife couch co op trying to get her into arpgs) So many minions were clogging up the screen she couldnt understand what was going on the screen. Bone spirit is crushing shit. 1 shot anything its wild
Well his the skill he says to use here are not in the skill tree , for example He says Blood mist but in the build he doesn't have blood mist , it's a different build
Mages may be viable up to a certain point but they do not scale anywhere near as good golem. So if you’re hard pushing, you’re going to end up going back to a golem build in the end.
Corpse tendrils unfortunately doesn't work. There is no damage at all. Go do a dummy dmg test it does not work.. I had to change my necromancer build slightly because of this problem. I'm not a content creator, so I cannot not do anything . Maybe you can . Please look into this, and you will find out that it's true.
Been noticing that people are starting to transition from golem supremacy to mages and shadow, guess it'd be best to let the season breathe for a week or so before committing to a build, especially since I firmly believe that they'll patch a hotfix for the gold situation.. let's see lets see.
hope D4 devs, can have a option to farm different class items, for example your necro is so strong but you need items for barb, you can select a option to make the drops for all barbs.. so it will be fun.. because for me its gettings boring and boring pushing for no reason.. items are the same.. I play necro and 150 to 200 is easy..
Just tried this build and it does what it's supposed to do.. help you survive. I just don't like the feel if it. The minions do literally all the damage
Your Skeletal mages do Shadow Damage, but they aren't using Darkness skills. Unless you use Darkness skills such as Decompose or Blight, you aren't benefiting from Gloom or Reaper's Pursuit.
I encourage to review your Darkness passives, from what I've seen it buffs Darkness skills and not Shadow damage itself, so I'm not sure that is actually buffing your mages.
Hi. I play leveling S4 in yout first build and pretty good i go to pit lvl41. Then i saw your twich and change for this new build shadow and for me its amazing. For you are thes best builder for necro. Thanks for your job to my game more funny🎉
Still not the same build as in this video, which one to follow? On mid&end game army of the dead is discussed while it is not even in the skill tree, and some aspects are not the same (conceited on gloves for example). I like the idea of OP mages, will definitely try it!
golem is trash on controller, you cant aim with Corpse Tendrils and you cant aim the golem, the auto aim is terrible on controller and every other opinion is just wrong.
Yeahhhhhh, I played all the way thru 100 with that build and while you can change targets, it's not very practical in a fight at all. You just kinda gotta hope your golem doesn't have his head up his ass all the time when you use your slam. And spoiler alert, he always does. I really think it's a K&M build
@@honestinsincerity2270 every build that requires aim is not for controller, i switched from golem to mages and it's day and night difference. also played barb and almst all builds are great except the leap one because you need to aim with it.
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Btw, why do you play 2H scythe over 2H sword ?
I mean any minion build with Holy bolt can do it, its bugged af. The flask is doing all of the work lol.
Whats your thoughts on using Lidless Wall with this build?? I just had one drop.
u forget to change ultimate to shadow blight in build website mobaytic
@@christophervandenberghe1157 2h sword crit damage is additive, while the scythe has 10% increased base damage
Guess the bit at 11:19 didn't get re-recorded huh 🤣
As a semi casual I've taken time to test all of the top Necro builds, and yes I've gotten higher single hits/ screen damage with Golem, but survivability is awful, replacing the chest with tyriels might means you have to sacrifice Golem on chest, so it makes sense to focus on mages if you want survivability
If you aren't amazing at dodging mechanics and perfectly proccing/ sequencing your skills, survivability is way more important than highest DPS or single shot damage
After changing my whole set up 6 times in a week, I keep going back to Goblin's bone storm build, when I get my 4th spark I'll craft Tyriels might and try his army of the dead version
i feel like i can't consistently get the shadowblight passive to proc which makes me feel like im wasting my 2h weapon aspect. my build is identical except swapped army of dead. am i just killing things too fast? not doing pit yet
4:18 how does the shadow dot ticks give you a shield? i think you skipped over that part.
Hey, how much skeletal mages damage percent is acceptable with this build? I want to have an idea of what number I should aim for
Hey the mid-game variation you say to check out has bone storm as the ult but then talks about "swapping reapers because we're getting corpses from army of the dead and yet reapers are still on making corpses? Just giving you a heads up might wanna update it.
When I select Blood Golum and use the first one with Damage Reduction, where can I see if the DR actually is working? When I hover over my skill bar It still lists it as the blood draining option 🤔. And when I activate the skill it starts to drain....It seems bugged
Why do you go for golem temper on gloves ?
Mage should be better, right ?
Ye, maybe he couldn't get it or something
Thank god the new codex of power is a thing. makes switching builds easy.
Hoping you bless us with a video showcasing the blood builds ! Everyone using minions, would love to see something else
Don't u use that legendary aspect that gived x50% plus shadow damage to cursed enemies?
Is it okay to replace either ring with the Ring of Sacrilegious Soul? For example the Conceited Aspect? On Console targeting for Corpse Tendrils is so janky this ring is a huge QoL improvement.
Once u temper to 100% size everywhere is the target
Would it be a big dps loss to use a 1hander and offhand to get an extra legendary power? Like juggernaut.
Or to fit in a ring of Scarligous? One that auto tendrils and summons. It’s so good for console gamers hate not using it
Dude same. I’m on Xbox and I can’t play necro without it. I made my toon 3 days ago and he’s doing pit 120 on a lazy necro build with the legendary ring that auto casts and the one handed scythe that makes corpse explosion destroy.
Golem builds for BURST damage, Minion builds for DPS ✅
is there a reason why you use a Scythe over a 2H Sword?
I was excited to check this video out but I ended up getting confused when comparing the gear stats on the video and what's on the moba page. :( disappointing.
Hi Goblin , Thank you for the video
what gems on weapon do you recommend on mobalytics it says emerald but it shows varnuerable dmg (sapphire ) so I am confuses shall I run green gem on weapon or blue
What about that billion damage necro build is that still a thing ?
Paragon Board not showing up, giving an error loading page.
Thanks for this. I have been experimenting with Occult Dominion on the Amulet for 3 extra mages rather than the normal two and it seems pretty good. Dropped Conceited and moved reanimation to a ring. Then took Hulking aspect on the boots for some extra corpses. Even considering putting occulted dom on the 2h for 4 extra mages. Then put Blighted on the amy.
Any chance we get an updated Necro thorns build? 🙃
The link for the build does not work
agree
Quick question, is ancestral unique equipment pointless?
I've just gotten Harlequin and I'm using this build. Should I use it?
you mention army of the dead in your mobalytics notes but dont take it in the build I'm looking at. Am I missing something?
Why don't you run the mages glyph instead of the golem glyph?
Because mages glyph is trash. No multiplicative damage bonus on it anywhere and that's the only reason to take a glyph
Yea it's additive not a multiplier which you can just temper on regular damage and get the same result
Yea it's additive not a multiplier which you can just temper on regular damage and get the same result
I like this build a lot, and i like the use of Blood Mist which i feel like a lot of people are not running right now because they arent pushing. I also prefer Explosive Mist to Conceited. I just dont like Conceited, i think its boring. I think theres a good amount of points for this build in the skill tree that are pretty optional, so 3 pts in Corpse Explosion doesn't hurt. I believe the Reapers are also bugged, so using the corpse generating slot also gets you the cooldown reduction (correct me if im wrong there). There are sooo many supplemental corpses with this setup, corpse explosion just helps even more with Blighted, and the extra CD reduction you get on Blood Mist basically makes this an Shadow Infinismist Minion build 😂
This! Other content creators are reporting that Reaper corpse generation is bugged. Raxx just did a video with a demonstration at the test dummy.
It's not min maxed but I have the gloves that turn the Corpse Explosion into missiles and the ring that automates Corpse Explosion and Corpse Tendrils (and the priest), so I have the skeleton warriors creating corpses plus the passive and th automation takes over. The golem is the weak part of my build and tbh I feel like I could trade it for something elsebut atm my input is just Amplfy + Golem active. After seeing this I could be tempted into trading it for Bone Storm which was my original plan but that got waylaid, but Bone Storm is a thing to be trying to aim for perma and with all these changes it just slows the recharge by too much for me to think if there is a point.
Hey man, does *Conceited* works with minions damage? I'm assuming not since they have no barrier and if so what other source of damage you use this for?
Yes it does
@@Goblin-Inc wow that's great to hear, it didn't work in the PTR afaik
Hey! Amazing build mate. It shreds!
- One question tho. Whats up with the last point in the Paragon board Blood Begets legendary note. Did I miss something. How do you generate Blood Orbs? :S
Corpse Tendrils will spawn blood orbs
Mage rendering affixes drop on helm too …. maybe I misunderstood something tho idk
So your planner shows a heavy emphasis on Golem while the video shits on Golem. Kinda confused. Also on both Paragon boards , you're showing the Golem glyph. Something must be wrong here.
Video content (bone spells) doesn't fit build content (no bone spells) why??
"Beside Nightmare Bosses". So you can run the Dungeons and the PIT, but at the end struggle with bosses. I have stated this many times. A good video of someone stating how good their build needs the following requirements: A. Game Play in Nightmare Dungeon and the PIT and including showing play against the Boss (Make sure we can see what Level it is). When you leave specific game play out. The build is suspect.
Just made a swap over to Bone spirit at level 80. (playing with my wife couch co op trying to get her into arpgs) So many minions were clogging up the screen she couldnt understand what was going on the screen. Bone spirit is crushing shit. 1 shot anything its wild
Nice one. I was running a similar build during PTR for my hardcore build test.
Your build planner on mobalytics is incorrect .
Whats wrong about it? Should say whats incorrect so its easier for him to fix.
Well his the skill he says to use here are not in the skill tree , for example He says Blood mist but in the build he doesn't have blood mist , it's a different build
@@paulmessa9219 Yes, I mentioned that aswell, but it seem this dude is totally not responding to any comments
Thanks a lot for all the info. This helped me enhance my current build significantly.
Been playing 12+ hours a day since launch and have never seen +ranks of hellbent commander drop on an amulet. Havnt seen it when rerolling either
My very first sacred amulet was hellbent commander cdr movespeed, now I'll def never get the ancestral -__-
I found a +3. Then I found a CDR and rolled a +2. It's out there.
12+hours a day?Get a life dude Jesus christ😂😂😂
@@andrewskidmore9955 na I’m gd
I've found 2, a +1 and a 2. They exist I promise
Mages may be viable up to a certain point but they do not scale anywhere near as good golem. So if you’re hard pushing, you’re going to end up going back to a golem build in the end.
He said that in the vid
You seem knowledgable, is shako viable on golem builds?
@@Ethangg_ The +4 doesn't buff the minions but the damage reduction is really good
Corpse tendrils unfortunately doesn't work. There is no damage at all. Go do a dummy dmg test it does not work.. I had to change my necromancer build slightly because of this problem. I'm not a content creator, so I cannot not do anything . Maybe you can . Please look into this, and you will find out that it's true.
Been noticing that people are starting to transition from golem supremacy to mages and shadow, guess it'd be best to let the season breathe for a week or so before committing to a build, especially since I firmly believe that they'll patch a hotfix for the gold situation.. let's see lets see.
hope D4 devs, can have a option to farm different class items, for example your necro is so strong but you need items for barb, you can select a option to make the drops for all barbs.. so it will be fun.. because for me its gettings boring and boring pushing for no reason.. items are the same.. I play necro and 150 to 200 is easy..
Necro noob question: if you are stacking the number of mage attacks would Ring of Mendeln be good?
No, it's better to get a legendary affix that you can temper with GG tempers.
Don’t sleep on aspect of the damned dmg multiplier. Also sleeping on Darkness glyph for DR.
11:20 You forgoot to re-record! Thanks for the informative video.
Just tried this build and it does what it's supposed to do.. help you survive. I just don't like the feel if it. The minions do literally all the damage
need link to updated build
How do you regenerate essence please?
There is nothing in the build that uses Essence other than the curse and the passive from generating corpses us probably enough for that small usage.
The paragon board on mobalytics on the mid game build is still focused on golem
@@AizenJabberwock gold situation ? Why what is wrong?
Why does golem suck? When done right, Golem damage can go up to 1100%. It hits hard (I use Blood golem).
Mage Glyph needs [x] multiplier secondary, just as Golem Glyph!
Can you please just make an engine build with blood mist? I’m way too fucking high to be in 100+ pit without it lol.
Your Skeletal mages do Shadow Damage, but they aren't using Darkness skills. Unless you use Darkness skills such as Decompose or Blight, you aren't benefiting from Gloom or Reaper's Pursuit.
One of the aspects makes bone storm a darkness skill
I encourage to review your Darkness passives, from what I've seen it buffs Darkness skills and not Shadow damage itself, so I'm not sure that is actually buffing your mages.
Your builds confusing as hell first you diss golem then you totally spam it on the paragon board
It will get patched at some point im sure but run the reaper warriors they are bugged and get the cd ability and make corpses
Hi. I play leveling S4 in yout first build and pretty good i go to pit lvl41. Then i saw your twich and change for this new build shadow and for me its amazing. For you are thes best builder for necro. Thanks for your job to my game more funny🎉
You are 100% missing out on damage without golem lol
Man I’m excited to get Thai going
Yeah I've been saying this too. The next step is to sac the golem, join me!
this.... people are focusing on golem burst damage. mages are the way for dps
Golem is at better… this is bait
my golem has been hitting in the 2.3 BILLION range, but yea, golem sucks :p
got a shako so im going bone spirit.
I absolutely love this build variation, screw overrated golems lol
Update ur mobalytics builds u dingus
Go to the mid game variation
@@Goblin-Inc do you still plan tyrael's might for endgame?
Yes, its a great defensive item
@@Goblin-Inc What about Doombringer and Lidless Wall ?
Still not the same build as in this video, which one to follow? On mid&end game army of the dead is discussed while it is not even in the skill tree, and some aspects are not the same (conceited on gloves for example). I like the idea of OP mages, will definitely try it!
This some good info thanks for it
Yea you are very wrong buddy lol
Golum is new hota one shot
update mobalytics build, did this last season too
Blood mist spend all corpse . This build is useless.
No way I’m watching a holy bolts T60 pit. Pure click bait.
Your the reason people hate playing games
saw golem sucks and decided to not trust u anymore haha
golem is trash on controller, you cant aim with Corpse Tendrils and you cant aim the golem, the auto aim is terrible on controller and every other opinion is just wrong.
Yeahhhhhh, I played all the way thru 100 with that build and while you can change targets, it's not very practical in a fight at all. You just kinda gotta hope your golem doesn't have his head up his ass all the time when you use your slam. And spoiler alert, he always does. I really think it's a K&M build
@@honestinsincerity2270 every build that requires aim is not for controller, i switched from golem to mages and it's day and night difference. also played barb and almst all builds are great except the leap one because you need to aim with it.
love it ❤🔥
you the best
your mobalytics build is the worse one ive seen, also this guy is a gob irl
Dead game. Feels like they lifted/stole every change from Diablo 3. Just cancel Diablo 4 and make another D3 expansion. LOL.