What's the most climate-friendly milk?

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  • @OlivierSuire
    @OlivierSuire 2 года назад +2090

    The fact that veg. milk is more expensive than cow milk is quite disturbing.
    One is obviously over-subsidized, and the other is grossly over-priced because it targets rich hipsters.

    • @garethbaus5471
      @garethbaus5471 2 года назад +113

      Economies of scale also play a roll, but yes those are both true.

    • @endianAphones
      @endianAphones 2 года назад +101

      I think that the prices are getting lower / more similar. I think the selection in my usual supermarket has been growing a lot.

    • @Marekthejester
      @Marekthejester 2 года назад +115

      I don't think this is the only reason. Vegan diet is essentially practiced by people with good enough income to not have to worry about being able to eat period. Companies know that and make Vegan product more expensive because they know people are ready to pay extra to be environment friendly. Cow Milk industry is well established industry for a product considered too common to warrant a high price. Noone would pay extra for some cow milk and so the price are kept low.
      It's all commercial strategy.

    • @dylancolon5871
      @dylancolon5871 2 года назад +65

      @@Marekthejester That's pretty much exactly what the person you're replying to said ("the other is grossly over-priced because it targets rich hipsters").

    • @crystaldrano
      @crystaldrano 2 года назад +45

      I live in Argentina where cow milk is not only not subsidized but heavily taxed and it is still cheaper than veg milk. It all has to do with production scale and that is driven by market demand. That means that most people still consume regular dairy foods, which are not only delicious but great for human development when consumed responsibly.

  • @vioheubach3112
    @vioheubach3112 2 года назад +1832

    My favourite plant milk is oat milk. It is the cheapest, most environmentally friendly milk and it can be grown locally. It is also the most delicious one :)

    • @tezzo55
      @tezzo55 2 года назад +34

      Yeah but it ain't MILK. Milk comes from mother's glands, so why do you think you have to lie about it?

    • @vioheubach3112
      @vioheubach3112 2 года назад +370

      @@tezzo55 I wrote PLANT milk, I didn't say cow milk, so I didn't lie. Most people call it "plant milk", what's wrong with you? Why are you so angry?

    • @vioheubach3112
      @vioheubach3112 2 года назад +86

      @@tezzo55 yeah all, except of you ;)
      Sorry but this is too stupid, I will stop the "conversation" here.

    • @WaterspoutsOfTheDeep
      @WaterspoutsOfTheDeep 2 года назад +32

      The problem is if it's not organic oats it'll have a bunch of glyphosate in it

    • @vioheubach3112
      @vioheubach3112 2 года назад +56

      @@WaterspoutsOfTheDeep I buy organic oat milk, but yes, you are right. Thanks for mentioning :)

  • @Dollightful
    @Dollightful 2 года назад +204

    That was a fantastic comparison! Thank you for doing the research. Very helpful.

    • @ObeyLucifer
      @ObeyLucifer 2 года назад +1

      omg hi 🥺❤

    • @WeatherInOrlando
      @WeatherInOrlando 2 года назад +8

      It's great when you run into an idol of yours on a completely different channel 😍

    • @SmallSpoonBrigade
      @SmallSpoonBrigade 2 года назад

      It is, but I wish he would have included hazelnut milk, it's pretty much the king of responsible milk substitutes. But, really, any substitute you use is going to be easier on the environment than cow milk.

    • @senorsapo1810
      @senorsapo1810 2 года назад

      Omg

    • @Aplusinskal
      @Aplusinskal 2 года назад

      O_O Wow Hi!

  • @whitemoonwolf13
    @whitemoonwolf13 2 года назад +104

    even without burning the rainforest i was under the impression that soy is a terrible crop to grow simply based on what it does to the soil it grows in. little surprised he didn't go into more detail about what each type of crop does to the ground they're grown in (nutrient absorption, field yield and pesticide use)

    • @jantimmerby
      @jantimmerby 2 года назад +2

      Soy milk contains some substances that are reminiscent of estrogen, so if you are male then stay away from it.

    • @Fefaith
      @Fefaith 2 года назад +45

      @@jantimmerby it has been proven that soy doesn't affect male hormone levels

    • @BabunichtPremium
      @BabunichtPremium 2 года назад +5

      it depends how you grow the soy. if it is done like in the rainforest areas, like grow some GM Soy and spray anything else dead, it is quite bad for the soil but there are ways to grow it kind of like oat or wheat.

    • @1980rlquinn
      @1980rlquinn 2 года назад +10

      @@jantimmerby Not how that works.

    • @jantimmerby
      @jantimmerby 2 года назад +2

      @@1980rlquinn Weird. Have just seen three articles about men who get hormone problems due to too much soy. With lack of sex desire and erection problems to follow. The problems disappeared when soy was removed from their diet. Soy intake should not be exaggerated by men.

  • @svobodniknarodnik7128
    @svobodniknarodnik7128 2 года назад +730

    I love how basically everyone is in agreement that oat milk is the best. I've never even tried it yet, but the minute I heard that oat milk exists, I thought to myself, that tastes the best. Almond milk is too watery for me, and soy milk just doesn't taste good. Can't wait to try oat milk at some point
    *Edit: I've actually tried it now, I was right. It's delicious*

    • @stijnhs
      @stijnhs 2 года назад +46

      Having tried many sorts my personal opinion is that milk is the best milk

    • @napillnik
      @napillnik 2 года назад +12

      I also tried coconut milk (not the stuff in the cans, but stuff that's manufactured to mimic milk), and it's pretty awesome actually. Not for steaming for my capuccino, but still great.

    • @garethbaus5471
      @garethbaus5471 2 года назад +25

      I rather like the taste of soymilk(perhaps a bit too much), but oatmilk isn't half bad either.

    • @garethbaus5471
      @garethbaus5471 2 года назад +11

      @@stijnhs if your standard is primarily based on similarity to the flavour of milk, that is definitely true, but I am not particularly fond of the taste without adding a lot of coffee and sugar.

    • @kirani111
      @kirani111 2 года назад +8

      It's delicious 😋 try different levels of "thiccness" to find the one you like. I love the extra creamy oat milk.

  • @andreeamarinasi4890
    @andreeamarinasi4890 2 года назад +453

    Currently drinking coconut milk but will swap as soon as I can to homemade walnut milk as I have a couple of walnut trees at my parents house and they literally go to waste. I’ve made it a couple of times and it’s incredibly smooth and creamy, and the pulp can be used in cooking so nothing is wasted. Definitely recommend if you have access to free or cheap walnuts

    • @adjjal
      @adjjal 2 года назад +24

      Ooh that sounds delicious and amazing, good luck im sure u will make it a great and fulfilling routine/ritual in ur life and also u get amazing milk from it yum!

    • @toychristopher
      @toychristopher 2 года назад +17

      That sounds delicious, and walnuts are supposed to contain healthy fats and be good for your brain.

    • @zitronentee
      @zitronentee 2 года назад

      As Indonesian, I really don't recommend to drink coconut milk due to health reason (high fat, despite plant based). Despite extensive use of coconut milk in Indonesia, no Indonesian drink plain coconut milk. We use it as spice or cream.
      On the other hand, the purest way we consume coconut milk is by making it ice cream.

    • @eliseerickson5994
      @eliseerickson5994 2 года назад +5

      Walnut and coconut milk are top tier. Much creamier than others and have a little natural sweetness as well.

    • @harveydangerfield
      @harveydangerfield 2 года назад +1

      Walnuts are my favorite nut, does walnut milk actually taste like walnuts? because if so that sounds heavenly

  • @mygucciburned9692
    @mygucciburned9692 2 года назад +59

    Personally, I really just prefer to buy from local, small-scale farms in general. Industrial farming, be it cows or plants, are both damaging. Small-scale farmers often have more sustainable practices because, well, they're just a small operation. As a person living in a developing country, it really just sounds like first-world problems to me, so I find it hard to relate to these choices 🤷🏼‍♀️ All of these milk choices are rather a luxury instead.
    Also, you can just put an extra cup of water to your rice when you're cooking and scoop it out before it is absorbed by the rice. Put some brown sugar, and drink it while it's hot 😊

    • @Gr95dc
      @Gr95dc 2 года назад +6

      I agree that these plant based milks are luxurious for developing countries, and nice tip, I'll try it out the next time I cook rice

    • @gremlinking5640
      @gremlinking5640 2 года назад

      The problem is that the dairy industry is a huge contributor to global emissions. So it’s an issue that will affect people everywhere. Sadly we can’t feed 8 billion people with family farms so we need to replace dairy with alternatives if civilization as we know it is going to survive.

  • @beehive5835
    @beehive5835 2 года назад +190

    How come no mention of Hemp milk? The Hemp plant is good for cleaning the soil. It has more protein and healthy fats than other plant-based milk alternatives. Unlike other non-dairy milk options, hemp milk contains all essential amino acids, making it a complete protein. Then there is also pea milk. Finally, what about a combination milk?

    • @erlannderrantem6972
      @erlannderrantem6972 2 года назад +13

      Soy has also all the essential amino acids

    • @ideal2334
      @ideal2334 2 года назад +12

      @@4kstreamer44 The irony is you probably consume a lot of the foods you consume contain soybean oil or just soy.

    • @beehive5835
      @beehive5835 2 года назад +2

      @@erlannderrantem6972 Thank you! That is interesting to know. (Hopefully the soy is locally sourced rather than imported from China.) I am still waiting for a combination milk to be marketed...that should be an awesome product.

    • @4kstreamer44
      @4kstreamer44 2 года назад

      @@JP-sm4cs I don't what you're saying but okay I like oat milk as well

    • @4kstreamer44
      @4kstreamer44 2 года назад

      @@ideal2334 false irony

  • @justycecarey3166
    @justycecarey3166 2 года назад +59

    Oat milk became my favorite after I accepted the fact that I had become lactose intolerant. A glass of milk used to tear my stomach up so much I would cry from the pain. Switched to oat milk and dairy-free alternatives and my issues were solved.

    • @napillnik
      @napillnik 2 года назад +4

      did you try lactose-free milk? Just curious. It's regular milk, but processed with lactase to break the bond, so instead of containing all that lactose that makes you feel bad, it contains the same mass in glucose and galactose, which you should be able to tolerate. Trace amounts of lactose might remain, but if you don't go crazy and drink too much milk, it shouldn't be a problem.

    • @peacefulbeast8386
      @peacefulbeast8386 2 года назад +4

      Me too! Why was I breastfeeding from a cow again?

    • @blue1584
      @blue1584 2 года назад +4

      @@napillnik They said drinking regular milk caused them severe pain, so I doubt they’d be able to tolerate even trace amounts of lactose. And some people are allergic to dairy (which is different from being lactose intolerant), so in that case lactose free milk would still be a problem.

  • @arunsubramanian7949
    @arunsubramanian7949 2 года назад +398

    Rice paddy is part of wetland ecosystem, methane comes from manure added to rice fields. The place where rice grows does not use any additional water than what would flow through there, like Bangladesh, Philippines, Thailand, Indonesia or northern plains of India or southern India. The problem of groundwater depletion is with basmati rice grown in northern India.

    • @WaterspoutsOfTheDeep
      @WaterspoutsOfTheDeep 2 года назад +23

      Someone with some common sense. Thank you

    • @raw238
      @raw238 2 года назад +7

      What ? I'll have to cut down on my biryani too....aa dagh it

    • @cassieoz1702
      @cassieoz1702 2 года назад +36

      Similarly, in most of the world, dairy cattle use only rain grown pasture to produce their milk

    • @dgmojojojo
      @dgmojojojo 2 года назад +47

      some part of Indonesia and Japan actually since way back then combined paddy field and tilapia fish pond into one and thus they mutually coexist. dropped rice feed the fishes while fishes eats pests and their dropping make the soil more richer for paddy to grow.

    • @arunsubramanian7949
      @arunsubramanian7949 2 года назад +4

      @@alexanderdvanbalderen9803 the us is not even a top 10 producer.

  • @bassfne
    @bassfne 2 года назад +57

    Is the transportation of the different milks accounted for in these numbers? For me who live in Norway to get a glass of almond milk, where the almonds are from California, the CO2-emissions of that glass of almond milk traveling to Europe must be massive compared to a cows milk from the farm next door. That goes for every other type of vegan milk. Soy or Rice milk from Asia have a long way to Europe. And also the fact that our digestive system can´t use the protein from vegetable sources as effective as from animal sources, means that to get the same results from the protein in the vegan milk, we have to double the amount of soy milk compared to cows milk, which again means that the carbon footprint gets even higher. This is the problem with everything "eco-friendly", it's maybe better, but it's not the perfect solution.

    • @thehamster2301
      @thehamster2301 2 года назад +4

      Also, almond milk uses almost 2,000 gallons of water to produce...in California!

    • @jamiesommerville4961
      @jamiesommerville4961 2 года назад +7

      best solution is to just cut milk out of your diet. to think you need to drink vegetable milk is a fallacy. a single almond takes 5 liters of water to grow and in his glass there were about 30
      30x5 = 150 so i have no idea where he came up with the 76 number. his almond milk undoubtedly has a higher carbon footprint than that of the cows milk asspecially if hes making that "milk" from anywhere other than california where those almonds are almost all from.

    • @SysterYster
      @SysterYster 2 года назад +1

      Exactly my thoughts!

    • @joaaotubee
      @joaaotubee 2 года назад +4

      "This is the problem with everything "eco-friendly", it's maybe better, but it's not the perfect solution." well nothing is really perfect lmao whats the point

    • @icekk007
      @icekk007 2 года назад +6

      The emission of shipping is smaller than you think. Thanks to those large container ships which can carry 20,000 twenty-foot containers at once. Due to economies of scale, the carbon emission per ton of good is few grams / nautical mile.

  • @genieglasslamp5028
    @genieglasslamp5028 2 года назад +53

    Actually drinking oat, rice, and coconut milk are almost as old as drinking cow milk. Its actually really interesting to study human food consumption.

    • @devonyoung3664
      @devonyoung3664 2 года назад

      Well what kinda milk do you drink?

    • @genieglasslamp5028
      @genieglasslamp5028 2 года назад +3

      @@devonyoung3664
      Oat, hemp, and coconut milk. I use all three in cooking as well.

    • @FeuerblutRM
      @FeuerblutRM 2 года назад +8

      Soy milk and crop milk consumption very likely is _way_ older than drinking cows milk since the lactase mutation in humans is quite recent. Probably about 10 to 20k years old. Before that milk was fermented and eaten as cheese and joghurt but not drunken fresh from the tit.

    • @epain
      @epain 2 года назад

      Almond milk is very old as well, I just read a medieval recipe that used almond milk. It was used as a substitute for cow's milk during Lent.

  • @eastcorkcheeses6448
    @eastcorkcheeses6448 2 года назад +136

    The vast majority of milk produced isn't put in a carton and drunk - it's made into something else - milk powders , cheese- butter , and some of those aren't easy to replicate -

    • @lucraetius
      @lucraetius 2 года назад +28

      Vegan cheeses and butters are here. You can find almost any cheese or type of butter. They have been done by several companies and for prices that arent crazy either.
      Check Miyoko's and violife. Those 2 are my favorites.

    • @WhiteNight0204
      @WhiteNight0204 2 года назад

      @@lucraetius While there are many good alternatives, there just isn't a good replacement for everything. for example I love making homemade pizza and I regularly buy local mozzarella from milk. It is stretchy and it is perfectly tangy and acidic.
      I have tried several vegan mozzarellas but none of them had the flavor profile, texture or other desired atributes of the real milk mozzarella

    • @thebising7468
      @thebising7468 2 года назад +24

      @@lucraetius idk about cheese, but margarin isnt comparable with butter, just saying

    • @thebising7468
      @thebising7468 2 года назад

      @@lucraetius ill check it. Margarin has been butter replacement in my country for a long time (palm oil and coconut milk is cheaper here so milk is usually only for those fancy rich ppl)

    • @elijahhmarshall
      @elijahhmarshall 2 года назад +4

      @@lucraetius Ive tried Vegan butter one, it tasted like margarine to me. Maybe I had the wrong kind though

  • @SimicFishCrab
    @SimicFishCrab 2 года назад +68

    Another interesting point would be comparing the nutritional content of each of these milks

    • @AnimeReference
      @AnimeReference 2 года назад +6

      Dairy > Soy >>>> everything else. Assuming more nutrition is better (ie drink the opposite to lose weight).

    • @EIIy
      @EIIy 2 года назад

      rice milk doesn't have any proteins. Not my favorite personally

    • @SFVYachtClub
      @SFVYachtClub 2 года назад +2

      breast milk

    • @_Diana_S
      @_Diana_S 2 года назад +2

      and do not forget comparing nut allergies (especially, from walnut) vs lactose intolerance

    • @michasosnowski5918
      @michasosnowski5918 Год назад +1

      Casein and lactose are the most spread allergies and food intolarences in the world. So even if cows milk have more nutrition, it can create lot of problems for many people.
      And the question is what nutritional content it really have?

  • @user-ne2bb5nh7t
    @user-ne2bb5nh7t 2 года назад +49

    I would argue that almond milk is just as bad as rice milk, due to the fact that all of the US's almonds are grown in southern california and ALL of their water has to be pumped to the fields.

    • @vasopel
      @vasopel 2 года назад +5

      he said that at 4:15

    • @Tamara-xp9nx
      @Tamara-xp9nx 2 года назад +5

      Not everyone lives in the US

    • @vasopel
      @vasopel 2 года назад +5

      @@Tamara-xp9nx 70 percent of the world's almonds come form US, if you don't live on Spain or Iran then it is certain that your almonds come from the US, and you have 2 likes? People are really ignorant about their food...

  • @mariekruuse5752
    @mariekruuse5752 2 года назад +136

    Very thorough, although I feel you are missing one point. Transportation. As a resident of Northern Europe, I expect to see a sizeable CO2 emission in the transportation of soy or almond milk, which of course would make it less climate-friendly. I also wish to see some nuance in the perspective on cow's milk - what's the difference in emissions/water if I choose organic? What about (theoretically) if I lived in the country and had a cow in my own field, just eating grass and drinking rain water? What then does it look like in a line up. In my mind "mass production" is always the greater sinner, because streamlining production is done at cost to the environment.

    • @robine916
      @robine916 2 года назад +5

      The US, unlike Europe, produces the vast majority of it's milk via factory farming, heavily relying on grains (including spent grains from breweries) to feed their dairy cows. Commercial Agriculture also is heavily subsidized to keep the price of their milk even lower. The GMO soy we grow is also heavily subsidized, and chemically treated. Many people are doing just what you said about buying a cow/goats, and/or are doing a "cow share" with a neighbor/family member/farm. I wonder how "big" this movement will get, as It is, I believe, a step in the right direction. :D

    • @deus_ex_machina_
      @deus_ex_machina_ 2 года назад +18

      You have your heart in the right place and it's great that you're asking questions about your food, but generally reality seems to be the opposite of what you'd expect.
      Transportation is a negligible factor in the total emissions of food, especially calorie-dense food such as meat, organic food takes more resources because it's less hardy and yields less, and large-scale anything tends to be more efficient than smaller scale operations.

    • @rolf7135
      @rolf7135 2 года назад +9

      I had the same thought as you about transportation. I also think that the production of cow milk, especially in the most northern part of Europe is a bit different than in the US and that water usage might be a smaller problem here. I used to drink almond milk, as it contains less kcal than skim milk but quitted as I thought the production where more water-consuming. However, it might be that water is a bit more scarce in almond growing countries than in northern Europe. I still think that local cow milk is more eco-friendly than almond, soy, and oat milk in Northern Europe. Nutrition must also be taken into account, oat milk contains more carbohydrates than skim milk and less protein.

    • @mariekruuse5752
      @mariekruuse5752 2 года назад +4

      @@deus_ex_machina_ Thank you for your answer, I think you're right. And the important thing is, that we're all asking questions and consider our impact.
      However I would never forgo organic, when given the choice. Traditional (non organic) mass production may be more efficient, but it also destroys the ground and the water in many ways. So I'm just trying to strike a balance, that my conscience can allow :-)
      In the future, I hope to grow my own vegetables. I would like to experiment with sustaining a closed ecosystem within my own garden. And I would like to add, I think the most sustainable lifestyle would actually be eco-friendly cities, if our governments would invest in such utopia.

    • @MollyGrue1
      @MollyGrue1 2 года назад +4

      I love oat milk. Oat grows here in Europe, and does not demand much from environment. Its tasty. Not too much transport to producer and customer in the end.
      Annnd: How much rainforest has been cut down to grow soy?
      In the end, you cannot survive just from picking fruit of the ground, pleaaaaase.

  • @microslavery
    @microslavery 2 года назад +132

    I like store bought soy milk, when I make it myself it's really hard to strain it down to whatever dark arts the factories get up to. Cashew milk is probably the best substitute I found for recipes, as it's fatty, and tastes pretty good. I have never liked the aftertaste of almond milk.

    • @g3ddokid832
      @g3ddokid832 2 года назад

      U probably go to the Asian country and then know what they make soy milk though :))

    • @microslavery
      @microslavery 2 года назад +2

      @@stefanstankovic1223 I have a clothe meant for it, it's a plastic product because it deforms under the heat. I'll look into cheese clothe though.

    • @princessjello
      @princessjello 2 года назад +1

      I would strain it multiple times n skim off the top for drinking. The bottom can still be grainy afterwards.
      My family does homemade soy milk occasionally and if i don't get it early, ill be given the last dredges... Needless to say it was very... Cleansing... hahahaha
      If you dont mind, then the flavor and all that is still very much the same. Just serve and claim it's 'with pulp'

    • @microslavery
      @microslavery 2 года назад

      @@princessjello I've been making it in a blender that has a heater. Insta-Ace blender. So skimming isn't really an option right away.

    • @isabelleblanchet3694
      @isabelleblanchet3694 2 года назад +2

      Cashew milk tastes good, but the production of cashew is not the most ethical one. Many women are exploited in the de-shelling of cashew and have the skin of their fingers burned by the acid inside the shell protecting the cashew.

  • @Youssii
    @Youssii 2 года назад +100

    I’d be interested to know about how home made vs shop bought plant milks stack up compared to cows. I can easily buy all these milks, but my country is a net exporter of cows milk, while only oats are locally grown here. Is almond joy shipped 3000 miles still better than cow’s milk from within 5 miles? How about if the almonds are shipped in as almonds and I make the milk?

    • @maya-parisan
      @maya-parisan 2 года назад +11

      Why would you choose almonds over oats though? If you prefer local products, sounds like oats are the way to go. Cows milk is worst for the environment, even if you milk them yourself.

    • @JoStra15
      @JoStra15 2 года назад +7

      How? A cow hangs out and eats nothing but grass all day and then can produce up to 25-40 litres of milk. Show me any nut you can get that much from for so little. The "science" around cows is incredibly inaccurate and false. Look it up.

    • @Youssii
      @Youssii 2 года назад

      @@maya-parisan I wouldn't, but lots of people in my country *do*. I'm asking about their environmental impact.

    • @Youssii
      @Youssii 2 года назад +12

      @@JoStra15 If you want to say that about someone else's research, you have to illustrate how in a peer reviewed study. Most cows aren't hanging out eating grass - they're farmed in numbers too great to rely on grazing the land they're allocated. It would be reductive to say that all dairy is less sustainable than all alternatives, but it's not as though there's no evidence that farming hundreds of millions of cows and feeding them soy is... not great.

    • @JoStra15
      @JoStra15 2 года назад +7

      @@Youssii the vast majority of cows do no eat soy, they eat grass and other nutrient dense plants that are indigestible to non-ruminants. The water use impact is also incredibly inaccurate as almost all of the water a cow consumes is rainwater (which it pees out later).

  • @1980rlquinn
    @1980rlquinn 2 года назад +25

    Thank you for covering various milks' impact on the planet. I noticed you also made a point to mention lactose intolerance for cow's milk, but you didn't mention other health issues related to various milks, like the high carbohydrate count of rice milk that can make it an issue for diabetics, or the lack of protein and calcium in milk alternatives that need to be made up for elsewhere in the diet, or be fortified.

  • @meneereenhoorn
    @meneereenhoorn 2 года назад +16

    It seems that there is an uprising new competitor: pea milk. I would love to see that variant added to the comparison.

    • @harveydangerfield
      @harveydangerfield 2 года назад +1

      what the HECK does pea milk taste like. i know what peas taste like and that doesnt sound pleasant at all to put in like, coffee or cereal

    • @teganyao2414
      @teganyao2414 2 года назад +1

      @@harveydangerfield I tried pea milk for a few months and god it was really awful. It tastes good until the aftertaste, which is super funky imo. I would still give it a shot though because the texture is satisfyingly similar to real milk, and it could just be me that hates the aftertaste.

    • @harveydangerfield
      @harveydangerfield 2 года назад +1

      @@teganyao2414 it might be good as a substitute in like, baking? like how you can put mayonnaise in brownies and not taste it. but pea milk is probably not for drinking with dinner

  • @a-ramenartist9734
    @a-ramenartist9734 2 года назад +221

    Soy milk is sort of an acquired taste, I've been drinking it since my entire life, and I can't even drink cows milk, not because I'm lactose intolerant, but because I'm just not used to it and think it tastes terrible

    • @tezzo55
      @tezzo55 2 года назад +12

      You ARE lactose-intolerant simply because you don't drink mother's milk. Check this out, "However if you're not actually intolerant to dairy-products, going the whole hog (or cow) and cutting all dairy out of your diet could actually make you lactose-intolerant. It's true that a large proportion of the world's population are “lactose maldigesters,” which means they struggle to digest lactose.13 Apr 2018".

    • @WaterspoutsOfTheDeep
      @WaterspoutsOfTheDeep 2 года назад +17

      There are micro filtered milk products now that remove the lactose and other problematic compounds. But I don't think many people just "drink" milk much anymore in the first place. It's more used in food or with food, in drinks and so on. I don't hate milk but I think someone who comes home and thinks mmm I'm gonna go pour myself a yummy glass of milk to drink is nuts lol.

    • @tezzo55
      @tezzo55 2 года назад +13

      @@WaterspoutsOfTheDeep That's funny because I drink straight milk every day, but I think the same thing about "someone who comes home and thinks mmm I'm gonna go pour myself a yummy glass of" BOOZE. I think they too are "nuts".
      All these pretend health freaks who then consume the potentially fatal, depressant poison alcohol, which along with tobacco kills 8.4 million people every year, the Rona has only killed 4.3 million in a year and a half, by contrast) they crack me up with their utter lack of self-awareness.
      We live in an booze cartel where our mass psychosis means not only do we NOT consider the dangers of the boozing drug, but we don't even acknowledge it as a drug. That's what mass psychosis does for you.
      Best

    • @a-ramenartist9734
      @a-ramenartist9734 2 года назад +12

      @@tezzo55 I dont drink alcohol, and intend to never consume it(apart from cooking)

    • @tezzo55
      @tezzo55 2 года назад +4

      @@a-ramenartist9734 Good man, there are very few of us. Now give up the Dodgy Sugar Water and you'll get really healthy :-)
      All the best sir :-)

  • @lewis5079
    @lewis5079 3 года назад +166

    So every type of plant based milk is vastly better environmentally than cow milk...

    • @GameControlYT
      @GameControlYT 2 года назад +27

      Only if you consider milk part. Cows also give meat which act as food and reduces demands on plants thus it kinda evens out

    • @notyetdeleted6319
      @notyetdeleted6319 2 года назад +1

      That doesn’t mean it’s better...

    • @GameControlYT
      @GameControlYT 2 года назад +11

      @@user-lu6cy7hm2t Who said so? cattles mostly graze on plants and eats what we cant eat or eat recycled hay and waste. Meat and milk are quick and easy source of food

    • @GameControlYT
      @GameControlYT 2 года назад +10

      @@user-lu6cy7hm2t That soya is mostly used to make soyabean oil and the rest of what left is thrown into cattle food.

    • @GameControlYT
      @GameControlYT 2 года назад +8

      @@user-lu6cy7hm2t so you want animals to not eat? I dont think you eat grass or hay or soya left overs nor do i think cow eat rice,wheat, bread or chocolate.

  • @Iregretmyoldname
    @Iregretmyoldname 2 года назад +4

    As a person That's planning to grow their own food in the future,the knowledge that oat milk seems to be deliscious and can grow locally is Very essential to me. Thank you

  • @chicago_rocker23
    @chicago_rocker23 2 года назад +7

    I've tried macadamia milk, oat,cashew,rice,flaxseed,almond,soy,pea,banana,coconut but hemp milk proved to be healthiest alternative.

  • @DougGrinbergs
    @DougGrinbergs 3 года назад +47

    Suggestion: acoustic treatment and/or more-directional lav mic for less reverb, better intelligibility.

    • @DWPlanetA
      @DWPlanetA  3 года назад +25

      Thanks for the constructive feedback! We've moved our studio and are working on the issue.

    • @alinevignol8460
      @alinevignol8460 2 года назад +2

      And maybe a speech therapist

    • @openmind5973
      @openmind5973 2 года назад +12

      @@alinevignol8460 I'm curious, why would you bother making this comment? His speech is fine.

    • @jadehonee1328
      @jadehonee1328 2 года назад

      @@openmind5973 im here Looking for hes comment ex.. he said (beco) here 2:58

    • @Arcangel0723
      @Arcangel0723 2 года назад +2

      @@jadehonee1328 I heard "because", it was just fast speaking combined with a sub optimal microphone.
      Also did that significantly detract from your understanding of the video? Accents exist and there is not one correct way to pronounce a word

  • @Vuduman
    @Vuduman 2 года назад +18

    As you can see from this other DW Planet A video "Bee extinction: Why we're saving the wrong bees", it's not the honey bees that need saving, it's the thousands of other bee species ruclips.net/video/VSYgDssQUtA/видео.html

  • @downbntout
    @downbntout 2 года назад +32

    Almond farms run by large corporations have been known to drill wells at an angle, robbing neighboring farms of their well water, forcing them to sell -- to the almond growers. The trees require vast amounts of irrigation. Large corporations can afford ultra-deep wells, and politicians

    • @thebising7468
      @thebising7468 2 года назад +8

      At the end its not about "environment friendly"
      Soybean has also worsen deforestation in amazon, but there is a catch. Most soybean is used for making oil and demands has grown since the refuse to use palm oil which also promotes deforestation
      Now u see a trend. As long as these businessmen are greedy, nature will be destroyed anyway

    • @downbntout
      @downbntout 2 года назад +1

      @@thebising7468 so for me the solution is Jesus

    • @thebising7468
      @thebising7468 2 года назад

      @@downbntout Jesus dont drink milk, he drink wine

    • @downbntout
      @downbntout 2 года назад

      @@thebising7468 Talkin bout the environmental destruction, what's your final solution? In the 70s it was 'the solution to pollution is dilution' but I don't think so anymore

    • @thebising7468
      @thebising7468 2 года назад +4

      @@downbntout What is the main purpose of deforestation? MONEY
      What about we make maintaining forest as a business, countries with big forests like Indonesia and Brazil, also with big ocean lines like Indonesia and Australia will get incentive of maintaining the environment
      Companies will also be charged based on their pollution rate
      This is pretty good on paper, but then these country (countries with great nature) wont comply
      Why? Becuz they dont have independency on their own, should the policy change, they wont have a chance at surviving
      My solution is to have each country have percentage of their place untouched and protected
      International organization should monitor the activity in those regions
      Then again its good on paper, but not applicable becuz MONEY RULES

  • @iiliiliiliil3444
    @iiliiliiliil3444 2 года назад +6

    Cow milk is simply my favorite. I've tried almond milk and soy milk, and they both lack the filling and fatty taste that real milk has. I'm not gonna try to justify the emissions that cows produce though

    • @TheRflynn
      @TheRflynn 2 года назад

      @Hassan jas an it is a pretty spicy conversation in some of the the rest of the comments.

    • @MrStealthWarrior
      @MrStealthWarrior 2 года назад

      @Hassan jas an That's why people should focus on reducing emissions from what we already make and use. And not "Let's use something else because it produces less emissions".

  • @elainelouve
    @elainelouve 2 года назад +150

    Why such an emphasis on Oatly, when also other oat milk companies exist? Oat is easy to harvest even in cold climates on existing fields.
    Though thank you for making me aware that Oatly is problematic. I'll be sure to stick with the other brands.

    • @premkumar-mi7vn
      @premkumar-mi7vn 2 года назад +7

      funding,advertising and propaganda

    • @napillnik
      @napillnik 2 года назад +9

      any alternatives you'd recommend? I googled a bit, but found mostly vitriol on this topic. I'm tired of internet hate. Can I just try new stuff and then buy affordable stuff that I enjoy? In my local area I mostly found Oatly, so maybe you can suggest the brands that you like best, and where you normally find them.

    • @elainelouve
      @elainelouve 2 года назад +5

      @@napillnik I live in Finland where the oat products are really popular, though some of these are foreign brands: Planti, Milbona, Kaslink, Valio, Fazer, Juustoportti, and two local supermarket brands. We mostly have Fazer or Valio Oddlygood oat milk products at home, but also have used Planti and Kaslink. And Oatly... Those are all found in ordinary grocery stores.

    • @elainelouve
      @elainelouve 2 года назад +1

      @@napillnik oh, I just checked and Planti is also a Finnish brand, as well as Fazer and Valio. But Milbona is by Lidl, so it's German.:)
      Guess I should have checked how many oat milk brands there are on an international level... It's even visible here in the landscape how popular the oat products are, because I've seen oat growing on the fields much more than ever before.

    • @dgmojojojo
      @dgmojojojo 2 года назад +3

      it founds insight and thus use it as an example that the product may be not harmful to environment but the profit of it can be used to support entity or politician who actually harmful to environment.

  • @prestonmatthews725
    @prestonmatthews725 3 года назад +39

    Cashew milk is also awesome. A bit on the thick side but perfect for cereal. Coconut milk is also good as well

    • @106.
      @106. 2 года назад +1

      ugh

    • @merlinious01
      @merlinious01 2 года назад +5

      Cashews release very caustic and poisonous chemicals when raw, which the end consumer doesn't worry about but the producers are often very poorly paid south american women who get covered in chemical burns from processing the beans.

    • @prestonmatthews725
      @prestonmatthews725 2 года назад +1

      Thank you folxs for the enlightenment. I really apprecilove it.

    • @prestonmatthews725
      @prestonmatthews725 2 года назад +1

      @@merlinious01 yes. To make and cater to the needs of those in more developed countries. Trivial if you ask me.

    • @nunyabiznes33
      @nunyabiznes33 2 года назад +3

      Coconut milk is just for cooking imho. I wouldn't drink it raw.

  • @cynthiabasil8356
    @cynthiabasil8356 2 года назад +17

    Oat milk is my favorite. I'm lactose intolerant so cow milk is out. Soy gives me gas. I'm allergic to nuts so all the almond and cashew base milks are out. Also allergic to hemp. So that leaves me with rice 😣 Flax 😕 and oat😀

    • @imelimadame9244
      @imelimadame9244 2 года назад

      Same for me!
      Well I could drink hemp but I don't like the taste and oat is more readily available. Sometimes in the summer I use coconut rice milk.
      My old boss put my coconut rice milk in his coffee by accident and told me it was the most disgusting thing he ever drank 😅
      So I toast to you with my cold brew coffee with oat milk 😊

    • @dasja9966
      @dasja9966 2 года назад

      Some other options to DIY might be:
      Millet, sorghum, amarant, quinoa, sesame or sunflowerseeds. Don't know if it will work out with your allergies but might be worth a try to add some variation to your menu.

  • @ArgumentumAdHominem
    @ArgumentumAdHominem 2 года назад +8

    An almost perfect video. A lot of great points like bee health have been touched upon. Would have loved you to finish the story by presenting nutritional value per glass.

  • @davedavidson614
    @davedavidson614 3 года назад +22

    Oat makes sense

  • @yones6958
    @yones6958 2 года назад +107

    Ever since trying oat and almond milk, cow's milk tastes meh to me.

    • @lamiagumbo
      @lamiagumbo 2 года назад +11

      I LOVE oatmilk, and it's really good in coffee or when making lattes

    • @lawdawgm2844
      @lawdawgm2844 2 года назад +8

      @@lamiagumbo my gf got me to try oatmilk and I can’t drink regular milk anymore

    • @garethbaus5471
      @garethbaus5471 2 года назад +6

      My personal favorite is soy, but cashew is also pretty good (if you want to start doing a rotation for veriety)

    • @lamiagumbo
      @lamiagumbo 2 года назад +6

      @@garethbaus5471 I do like soy milk, I tend to switch between oat and soy milk for different drinks. I have not tried cashew though, I'll have to try it

    • @WeatherInOrlando
      @WeatherInOrlando 2 года назад +1

      I use soy milk in my tea exclusively, so when I'm offered cows' milk tea made by someone else it tastes off. Not bad but like... you can tell it's a bodily fluid.

  • @Pepa14pig
    @Pepa14pig 2 года назад +4

    I read the title “the breast milk?” and got deeply confused for a moment 😂😂😂

  • @Stagoras
    @Stagoras 2 года назад +20

    It’s a shame that the video skipped over the nutritional evaluation of the different drinks.
    If I would have to guess, I would say that the glasses would be just as filled as in the other evaluations, meaning that milk Is way more nutritious than the plant based drinks.
    I would like to be wrong, but the video didn’t get into it,.
    My favorite replacements for milk are coffee and tea, by the way.

    • @aino8335
      @aino8335 2 года назад +1

      I drink oat milk regularly and it has at least calcium and vitamins d and b12 added. However the organic versions don't have added nutrients (I guess it isn't allowed in the EU?).
      It also has less protein, more carbohydrates (but less as sugars) and the same amount of salt. It has some fat but most of it is unsaturated. The differences aren't very significant in my eyes though it probably differs between brands and types of milk.

  • @adzizi
    @adzizi 2 года назад +22

    Soy milk hands down is the best plant milk. Asian has been consuming soy milk much more than dairy milk. High in protein, low fat. What more would u ask for?

    • @pppetra
      @pppetra 2 года назад +6

      Well not screwing menstruation.. if i have soyproduct my cycle goes bananas. Like 45 days, 17 days bleeding..(also allergic to Nuts and gluten)

    • @swish043
      @swish043 2 года назад

      @@pppetra Don't equate an allergy with a universal effect. That's straight up misinformation.

    • @pppetra
      @pppetra 2 года назад

      @@swish043 i do not.
      Soy(drink) screws with my reproductive hormonen and makes me feel bad.
      Gluten makes me itchy, tired and 9 months pregnant in Just 2 hours. Also pain and have a cold more often.
      Nuts make me gasp for breath. And tired for days after.
      Rice? Same reaction as oat.
      All plantbased 'milk' makes me feel worse than animal milk. Wheather allergy or sensitivity.. do not care.. Just hate the effect.

  • @Bohrman8
    @Bohrman8 2 года назад +6

    The estrogen in soy he is talking about is phytoestrogen, a plant substance that is structurally similar to human estrogen. From what I've read and heard about them:
    1. Most beans, seeds, nuts and grains have it. It's not really something you can avoid if you eat a normal diet.
    2. There are different kinds of phytoestrogen and some do affect us like estrogen, others do not, some appear to do both. The take away however is you'd have to consume an abnormal amount of them for it to potentially become a problem.

    • @notyetdeleted6319
      @notyetdeleted6319 2 года назад

      Good thing I barely eat beans seeds or nuts, and consume massive quantities of red meat

    • @Bohrman8
      @Bohrman8 2 года назад +1

      @@notyetdeleted6319 I guess you don't eat stuff like rice or whole wheat either? (Grains).
      Honestly I couldn't give up chickpeas or lentils, plant estrogen be damned.

    • @nunyabiznes33
      @nunyabiznes33 2 года назад

      And from what I read, the traditional method of soaking legumes overnight before cooking is already enough to get rid of most of those phythoestrogens, not to mention if you ferment them, like in miso.

    • @krism6260
      @krism6260 2 года назад +1

      If lowering your risk of many cancers is deemed a problem, i'll take it.

  • @varrantgreen4259
    @varrantgreen4259 2 года назад

    Random question. Would it be easier and just as good to just blend a few almonds in a blender when ever you need some?

  • @lith...
    @lith... 2 года назад +15

    0:02 actually looks insane. these are not animals anymore, just products that you throw away when it reaches it's expiration date. but "we all love animals so much! so many happy cows for so many happy people."

  • @crowlsyong
    @crowlsyong 2 года назад +15

    This host is great, thanks for making these

  • @MAR108
    @MAR108 2 года назад +15

    Should it really be called milk? Isn’t it more of a juice?

    • @sidilicious11
      @sidilicious11 2 года назад

      My Mom calls what I drink ‘soy juice’ and she won’t even try a little sip of it.

    • @iagobkstar
      @iagobkstar 2 года назад

      Who cares? I ain't no vegan but I love almond milk, and I've basically replaced it just because I like it (no intolerance, no planet saving, nothing else than pure preference). Usage makes the word. I like my coffee with almond MILK, why would I take coffee with juice? That sounds disgusting.

  • @mavenYGO
    @mavenYGO 2 года назад +4

    I love oat milk because I love oats, porridge is my go to for breakfast and flapjack for high energy snacks so it was naturally my go to. I’m glad to see it’s very good environmentally too

  • @TheHadesShade
    @TheHadesShade 2 года назад +3

    The problem with oats (but also with every grown crop) is that they are grown in mono cultures in huge pastures of land with low biodiversity and high use of pesticides and herbicides. And cows that graze freely in the pasture also add a lot of soil diversity. Which is something plants do not, they take it away. So just oat milk is not the best option.

    • @krism6260
      @krism6260 2 года назад +2

      Monoculture crops like corn and wheat are mostly given to agriculture. Feeding 80 billion animals takes a lot, as you can imagine.
      Skip feeding the animals in agriculture, and whatever food we grow for humans, can be grown extensively.

  • @MiraPacku
    @MiraPacku 2 года назад +4

    4:54 yes that's true, but we tend to over focus on the honey bee, who's numbers are growing, instead of wild bees which are often more important and the really endangered ones

  • @hobbitninja
    @hobbitninja 2 года назад +6

    if you happen to live near a tofu factory you can probably get soy milk with the least amount of impact since it's a byproduct. It's a rare situation though

    • @a-ramenartist9734
      @a-ramenartist9734 2 года назад +3

      Soymilk is not a byproduct, tofu is made very similar to cheese, so you make the soymilk first, then make the tofu from the soymilk. The byproduct is soy-whey and okara(soy pulp), neither are that useful but you can technically eat both, and okara has some health benefits

  • @kraig800i
    @kraig800i 2 года назад +25

    Myth: plant based milk is only for rich white middle class hipsters.
    Fact: Asians are getting richer, so it's technically for ALL rich middle class hipsters.
    ...... true progress in our times.

  • @naturespecialist1489
    @naturespecialist1489 2 года назад +4

    2:53 rice patties in Japan have a ecosystem and something that people never notice the apex predator of those places is not a animal it’s a insect called the ダガメ

  • @symetryrtemys2101
    @symetryrtemys2101 3 года назад +38

    A nice, thorough examination of the topic. As I said elsewhere, I would like to know how hazelnut milk compares.

    • @johnnyholmes8840
      @johnnyholmes8840 3 года назад +2

      Grind up some hazelnuts, add water, then strain. Spoiler alert, you end up with hazelnut water.. not milk. Milk comes from nipples, no nipples (teets) no milk.

    • @symetryrtemys2101
      @symetryrtemys2101 3 года назад +25

      @@johnnyholmes8840 I think it is more or less commonly accepted that the product can be described as “hazelnut milk”, in a similar way that you can grind up peanuts and get “peanut butter” (not “smashed peanuts”) even though there is no cream (and therefore no nipples) involved. If I said “hazelnut milq” would it make any difference?

    • @tezzo55
      @tezzo55 2 года назад

      Apart from the FACT that NONE of these are MILK. They are sugar water with dodgy stuff in, and sugar ain't good for you. Neither is lying: it ain't milk. Milk ONLY comes from mothers.

    • @TheFeldhamster
      @TheFeldhamster 2 года назад +13

      @@johnnyholmes8840 stop nitpicking. We've called coconut milk "milk" since forever. In German, we even call those white liquid scouring stuff "Scheuermilch" (scouring milk), also since at least the 50s or so. Are you a PR guy for the milk industry? Because only those are now going after all these new "milk" products claiming that "it confuses the customer" when everyone has know coconut milk doesn't come from cows (since what, the 1800s?) and that you can't drink Scheuermilch either. Isn't that called scouring cream in English? Not real cream either, right? It's white, it's liquid, it's viscosity is kinda similar to mammal milk, people will call it milk. Only protectionist dairy industry PR folks protest against that.

    • @JP-sm4cs
      @JP-sm4cs 2 года назад +1

      @@johnnyholmes8840 milk is a mixture of lipids, sugars and water that's fluid enough to pour. Lipids can come from a mammary gland or they can come from nuts.
      Obviously cows produce milk naturally but we can also apply the same concept by blending soaked nuts and seeds. Potato Potāto.
      Cows milk is demonstrably worse for you in terms of health as well as because guess what, Adult animals aren't evovled to drink the hormone filled growth fluid of other animals.

  • @mohdfarismohdfadil2304
    @mohdfarismohdfadil2304 2 года назад +54

    Good ol' soybeans. They are available in tofu, tempeh, taufa... well, you name it. Glad to be Asian and soybean lover.

  • @mercyhahne6512
    @mercyhahne6512 2 года назад +3

    Can you do more on this topic? Including coconut, hazelnut, walnut, and others please.

  • @Jennifer-wr9si
    @Jennifer-wr9si 2 года назад +11

    Re: soy and the cancer scare, there is a huge difference in how Asians and Westerners consume soy. Asians generally consume 'real' soy products like milks and tofus and tempeh and miso, etc. OTH, Westerners unknowingly eat a lot of soy through their food in the form of highly processed soy derivatives.

    • @prgnify
      @prgnify 2 года назад +1

      And just to add, on the content of oestrogens; The milk that is richer in oestrogen content is, of course, pregnant mammal juice i.e. cow's milk.

  • @Nyla_
    @Nyla_ 3 года назад +9

    I wish spelt milk would have been added. Would like to know how environmental friendly it is as its my favorite milk alternative from the taste. But thanks. Very helpful video!

    • @DWPlanetA
      @DWPlanetA  3 года назад +15

      Hi Deeny and thank you for your suggestion! For this video we choose the most common kind of plant based milks. Should we do a follow-up part? With spelt milk and pea protein milk etc.?

    • @Nyla_
      @Nyla_ 3 года назад +3

      @@DWPlanetA that would be really awesome. There is such a wide variety of alternative milk choices. Would be interesting to know their environmental impact, too. Thank you!

    • @DWPlanetA
      @DWPlanetA  3 года назад +7

      We're adding it to our to-do-list! ;)

    • @Nyla_
      @Nyla_ 3 года назад

      @@DWPlanetA thank you so much! I really appreciate it and look forward to the second part. Til then I will discover your other videos as I just found your channel some days ago.

    • @leeb9342
      @leeb9342 3 года назад +2

      @@DWPlanetA And hemp milk.😁

  • @PumpkinMozie
    @PumpkinMozie 2 года назад +3

    I’d be interested to see how cashew, hemp, and macadamia milks compare. Macadamia milk in particular is absolutely delicious.

  • @teacherlcampbell177
    @teacherlcampbell177 2 года назад

    Thank you for this video, my sister just became lactose intolerant and I was worried about all the true impacts that could happen. Seems like the best option is all of them in smaller numbers. So, simply to diversify the choices and don't trend on any of them. No excessive actions, like making a bunch of brand name tote bags that have the same impact as plastic because of production. Also, nice to know that I can make all of them myself without too much trouble.

  • @casualsuede
    @casualsuede 2 года назад +2

    In my town almond milk is the same price as regular milk. So why does coffee shop charge an extra 50 cents on top of cow milk?

  • @sneakyninjagaming2536
    @sneakyninjagaming2536 2 года назад +3

    I just want to ask a question about cow milk vs Plant-based milk. How much land is needed to produce one gallon of milk? All resources should be included as well in the process of making the milk. Ex. Pesticides, hormone enhancers, and feed.

    • @cassieoz1702
      @cassieoz1702 2 года назад +3

      The land used for cattle is frequently non-arable ie not suitable for ploughing and growing crops and the 'water used' is generally only rainwater on pasture.

    • @krism6260
      @krism6260 2 года назад +1

      @@cassieoz1702 Land used for grazing cattle is often deforested land. The rainforest is a current and well known example, but eg parts of Europe deforested a long time ago. Their farmers now say "nothing but grass grows here". Well, thats bad maintanance then, isnt it?

    • @zzz7103
      @zzz7103 2 года назад

      @@krism6260 Neither industrial farming nor industrial livestock raising are sustainable. The Jordan River does not flow into the Dead Sea for most of the year, not because of the raising of livestock, but because of industrial farming and constant irrigation. This is the price the planet pays for our desire to consume non-seasonal fruits and vegetables.
      I live in the mountains, where there is very little land suitable for farming, but there are many arable lands for livestock. When they say that we need to cut meat consumption to 3 times a week in order to save the planet, I laugh, because my family eats it no more than once a week.
      The problem is that some countries consume too much food. Instead of fighting this problem, the entire western world is celebraiting fatness and claiming that overeating means being confident and loving yourself and your body. The rich countries create big environmental problems and then pretend to save the world by buying plant-based milk.

    • @krism6260
      @krism6260 2 года назад

      @@zzz7103 You are absolutely right, the rich west is destructive in many ways. Non-seasonal fruits and vegetables are only a tiny part of it though. The amount of bananas shipped in from Kenya is nothing compared to the amount of soy for lifestock shipped in from Brazil though. Just imagine: a human eats only appr 2kg of food per day, an industrial cow eats 50kg of food. Who uses more land and resources?
      I see what you're trying to say: yes, it would be way better if everyone around the world would eat meat only once a week and seasonal, local fruits and veg, like you do. By all means, yes!!. But the main culprit is the excessive amount of meat and fish people over here eat.

  • @aquajuwel7098
    @aquajuwel7098 2 года назад +4

    The only Brand i like is oatly, especially the barista type. When that is said, this milk is so much more expensive than cow milk. So I don’t know how long I will drink it.

  • @sophiegae
    @sophiegae 2 года назад

    Loved this. Lots of modern dilemmas in food and cleaning. Like what’s better using paper towels that you can only use once or constantly washing the same rag which uses lots of water?

  • @jannetteberends8730
    @jannetteberends8730 2 года назад +2

    During the video I was wondering about the footprint of biological milk.
    The only alternative milk I ever tried was soy milk tea and didn’t like it. Then I more or less assumed that other replacements were also not very tasty. I’m going to try the other varieties this week thanks to your video.

  • @jameswilliamjohnson
    @jameswilliamjohnson 2 года назад +5

    Almonds require inordinate amounts of water.

    • @jonathantan2469
      @jonathantan2469 2 года назад +3

      A couple of years ago, some folks here tried to blame the local dairy farmers as the reason the Murray Darling river basin here in Australia was drying up. Turns out it was the almond & cotton farms that were taking the lions share of the water allocations. Almond trees can take anywhere from 7 to 10 years before they become productive, and they require a lot of water throughout their lifetime, even during a drought. Dairy herds here are almost all grass fed. Also, during dry years they can be moved to other farms in non-drought areas or stock can be reduced by selling to other farmers. You can't move mature almond trees, and no plantation is willing to let their investment/crop die off after a long maturity period of 8 years.

  • @stetomlinson3146
    @stetomlinson3146 2 года назад +15

    When taking cow milk into any equation on emissions, has anyone measured the amount of grass it takes to feed cows? Surely the grass fields and hedges, certainly in The UK, that the cows live on/near take in CO2 24hrs/365 days per year. That surely is a benefit? Then there’s the transporting of rice and soya across large distances to get to Western Europe is that included? Genuine questions I’d like to know the answers to please.

    • @Quetzocotol
      @Quetzocotol 2 года назад +1

      Grass does help, but consider that grassland fields would typically be there whether the cow was feeding there or not. Or if it was woodland instead of grassland, it'd be even better.

    • @stetomlinson3146
      @stetomlinson3146 2 года назад

      @@Quetzocotol Thank you for this reply. In the UK sheep and cattle farms have about 3-4 fields empty for every field that has animals in it, because they need moving around as they eat the grass. So there could be large fields empty, add on any hedges or trees in those fields and that would make a difference.
      Also, on the same track, do you know if the production emissions from companies manufacturing and processing “artificial milk” are greater than dairies. I’m not sure whether it is including transport, because that might mean international travel for no dairy produce.
      I’m just interested because I don’t think it’s as simple as people make out to make comparisons on emission output to get a proper comparison.

    • @Maki-ch5ev
      @Maki-ch5ev 2 года назад

      Read the book sacred cow

    • @MellonVegan
      @MellonVegan 2 года назад

      @@stetomlinson3146 I didn't find proper numbers on the fly but most soy for soy milk production is actually grown regionally in North America or Europe and someone in the comments said the effects of transportation would be relatively small. I wouldn't fervently advocate this (again, haven't seen the data) but there shouldn't really be a reason to believe soy milk travelled much further than cow's milk to get to the same supermarket.

    • @stetomlinson3146
      @stetomlinson3146 2 года назад

      @@MellonVegan Thank you. I asked because I have seen some Vegans claim the man made materials used in replacements for leather, sheepskin or suede are more environmentally friendly!

  • @FeuerblutRM
    @FeuerblutRM 2 года назад +2

    5:56 actually no the oat milk needs enzymes (mainly amylase) to break down the complex carbs into simpler sugars to make it slightly sweet.
    If you just blend oats with water and filter it you technically don't get oat milk but filtered porridge that needs an external source of sweetness (that's why most recipes add dates, honey, syrup, sugar)

  • @chilesauce7248
    @chilesauce7248 2 года назад +1

    Adding dates to the mixture, what is the carbon footprint of the dates?

  • @geetikalohani7410
    @geetikalohani7410 2 года назад +3

    Nice video but why wasn't cashew, coconut milk or hemp milk included in this?
    There is Ragi (and other Millet milk) Milk too

    • @DWPlanetA
      @DWPlanetA  2 года назад +1

      Thank you for your input, we will forward it. Stay tuned!

  • @UshioSorrows
    @UshioSorrows 2 года назад +4

    Oh man was the opposite for me, I'm lactose intollerant and been drinking soy milk for a while now, tried to switch to almond but I just can't stand the taste! even the vanilla variant, it's a no no for me, and well, it's also thicker with makes it weird for me.

  • @rabbytca
    @rabbytca 2 года назад +1

    No mention of pesticide, fungicide and antibiotic treatments used in growing those plants??? It would be interesting to know if they tip the scales against or for soy beans or oats.

  • @Kleineganz
    @Kleineganz 2 года назад

    I've been using a lot of coconut milk (not the canned kind, but found next to almond, soy, etc.). Has any research been done on its environmental impact and health benefits? (I get the unsweetened kind and I know it's low in protein).

  • @AccidentalNinja
    @AccidentalNinja 2 года назад +27

    When the effects of soy hormones came up, I immediately thought of how prevalent soy is in Eastern cuisines, so I wondered if anyone had looked into those concerns using medical data from those regions.

    • @TristanBanks
      @TristanBanks 2 года назад +1

      The hormones in soy are plant hormones not compatible with animals. There are actual mamalian hormones in cows milk which can affect humans but people are too dumb to see they are being lied to.

    • @SimicFishCrab
      @SimicFishCrab 2 года назад +8

      Im no scientist but i think there might be some racial genetic differences that mean Asians are less likely to experience the same side effects the same way causasians are less likely to be lactose intolerant

    • @swish043
      @swish043 2 года назад +9

      It's dairy industry propaganda. Phytoestrogens do not affect humans the same way as animal estrogen (which IS present in dairy & other animal products 😤). The amount of soy you would have to consume to see any effect is completely absurd and unrealistic.

    • @murraycairns6950
      @murraycairns6950 2 года назад +2

      Read “the China study”.

    • @Megan-ii4gf
      @Megan-ii4gf 2 года назад +3

      The issue is, you could measure the difference in phytoestrogen levels between soy-consumers and non-soy-consumers in those regions, but it wouldn't be totally applicable across different ethnic groups due to the extraneous variable of genetic variation. One would need to measure the effects across various different ethnic groups to get a good idea of what its true effects on humans as a whole is. In any case, phytoestrogens get broken down in the stomach pretty effectively and the amounts present in soy products are tiny - so I really wouldn't see a cause for concern for either sex.

  • @locacharliewong
    @locacharliewong 2 года назад +3

    I choose soy milk as I'm in Hong Kong now. It's the taste of East Asian mum's meal. They even got soy milk option in Starbucks long before this green trend starts!

  • @crypton_8l87
    @crypton_8l87 2 года назад

    There's are several native varieties of dry rice in South and S-east Asia... which can be grown with regular irrigation not in paddies.

  • @morecowbell235
    @morecowbell235 Год назад

    I'd like to know what the environmental impact and water requirements are of hemp milk.

  • @Shivaaayy
    @Shivaaayy 2 года назад +6

    You guys are just calling any white liquid as milk😂😂😂

    • @redviking2086
      @redviking2086 2 года назад

      What do you expect from soyboys who believe everything related to climate change?

    • @marieblackbird89
      @marieblackbird89 2 года назад +1

      So is the nature of language. You call hot dogs, but I am sure you not expecting meat from an actual dog? Or hamburger and bacon are essentially meat from a non-human animal.

  • @tomkelly8827
    @tomkelly8827 2 года назад +6

    When you consider how much nutrition there is in cows milk you see that all these milks are on par with all other milks in all categories except since cows milk is much much much more nutrient dense, it is the one that certainly gives you more nourishment per volume so it wins by a large margin when it comes to reducing packaging waste. Although I am a cow milk proponent, there is one good alternative in the plant world, I must admit, that is hemp milk

  • @SorosPhuvix
    @SorosPhuvix 2 года назад +1

    I use different milks depending on what they're going in, because I'm dairy and nut sensitive; if I have too much of either I crave death.
    Hot drinks-oat milk, cold drinks-almond, and rice milk for direct consumption like cereal.
    A side note for the bess, it's not the honey bees that are in danger. It's the wild local bees and pollinators, that do most of the work, that are in serious trouble. More wild and natural gardens and landscape are one of the keys of bringing them back.

    • @oopskid
      @oopskid 2 года назад

      Glad to find someone else who is knowledgeable of the real bee crisis

  • @Saffronikka
    @Saffronikka 2 года назад +1

    I'd really like to know information about macadamia nut milk & coconut milk.. Those are my favorites

  • @TheCHWDP
    @TheCHWDP 2 года назад +10

    100ml of cow's milk contains 3.4gr of protein. Oat's 0.7gr/100ml so you need to drink 5 times as much of it to match just the cow's milk protein offer. Also, the amino acid profile is more limited what affects the quality of the protein and its bioavailability. For rice milk (0.3gr/100ml) it would be over 11 glasses for 1 glass of cow's milk. Rather bad deal for the poor and malnourished, and perhaps not that appealing for the environment anymore?

    • @DWPlanetA
      @DWPlanetA  2 года назад +3

      Anybody, who is relying on cow's or other animals' milk as their protein source, should definitely use it. Others, who are free to choose between milk varieties or any alternatives to milk, are also free in their decision. Our goal is to show which one plant-based alternative is better from the environmental perspective and also from the view of the consumer. And speaking of objectivity and comprehensivness: You left out the protein content of almond and soy milk.

    • @TheCHWDP
      @TheCHWDP 2 года назад +6

      @@DWPlanetA Thank you for answering. My intention was not to promote any type of milk (agree it may seem so) but to show how complex the LCAs are. Being limited by the briefness of a comment box, I selected the ones with the least amount of proteins just to make that point. Anyway, my last remark was cutting, that I need to apologise for.

    • @brandonb.5304
      @brandonb.5304 2 года назад +7

      Who drinks milk for their primary protein source? That's a very inefficient way of getting your daily protein intake, whether it's cow's milk or otherwise.

    • @vioheubach3112
      @vioheubach3112 2 года назад +2

      @@brandonb.5304 I wanted to write the same thing. Milk is mostly used for coffee or cereals, nobody would use it for nutrition.

    • @bassfne
      @bassfne 2 года назад +2

      @@vioheubach3112 Milk can also be drinked, you know? A litre of milk is about 35 grams of protein, which is a cheap and good way of getting in proteins after a workout for example!

  • @anders8461
    @anders8461 2 года назад +3

    We asians have been consuming more vegetables than meat/dairy product daily. When i hear westerners poop once every 2-3 days is just blew my mind. I can poop 1-2 times daily. I guess it's because of our daily fibre consumption. Consuming soy milk has been a tradition of sort from centuries ago.

    • @harukrentz435
      @harukrentz435 2 года назад +2

      How on earth you only p00ped once every 2-3 days?! 😨😨😨😨

    • @anders8461
      @anders8461 2 года назад +1

      @@harukrentz435 i read it somewhere a long time ago. Maybe because they consume so more meat products than vegetables

  • @edisonching5202
    @edisonching5202 2 года назад

    What were the results for hemp milk?

  • @earth_5496
    @earth_5496 2 года назад

    Ok but what do I cook/bake with?

  • @maridlins
    @maridlins 2 года назад +8

    I’m surprised no one has mentioned that soy is good for the soil. It has a symbiotic relationship with a particular bacteria that replenishes nitrogen in a form plants can use.

    • @whitemoonwolf13
      @whitemoonwolf13 2 года назад +1

      really? i've heard it's one of the worst plants to grow next to corn in how it strips the soil of nutrients like phosphates

    • @Estertje93
      @Estertje93 2 года назад +1

      This is true but the plant uses all that nitrogen when it sets fruit. So the effects are only temporary unless you rototill or chop off the plants at the right stage.

  • @fredsky7131
    @fredsky7131 2 года назад +3

    Cows milk is the best milk you can drink. It's full of protein, and vitamins and minerals that your body needs. It is also made into a variety of cheeses which are healthy, and delicious. Yogurt provides us with good bacteria for our digestive system. Butter has short chain fatty acids which are also good for our digestive systems and there is the gut brain connection.

    • @jessip8654
      @jessip8654 2 года назад

      Yeah but it also gives me raging diarrhea and farts that could knock out an elephant. (a recent development, I wasn't always lactose intolerant) I've switched to mostly dairy-free alternatives and was shocked by how much better I felt. I still love the occasional dairy (vegan cheese just does not cut it yet) but I think its healthiness is way overblown.

    • @fredsky7131
      @fredsky7131 2 года назад +3

      @@jessip8654 If you've ever seen a baby cow go from small to very large in a short period of time, then you know it's healthiness is not overblown.
      The problem with lactose intolerance is with education. People do not understand how their own cells work. If you don't drink milk for a while, your cells with shut off the ability to digest milk. The solution? Drink a glass of milk every day. This will get the cells to turn back on the the lactose enzymes. Lactose and Sugar are slightly different, but related molecules. If you want more information, read abou the LAC Operon from Genetics.

  • @nailpolishofdoom
    @nailpolishofdoom 2 года назад +1

    Can you do a part 2 please? With with hemp, walnut, and macadamia milk? Maybe add a wild card like lactose free and/or coconut milk as well?
    I’d also love to know more about the bioavailability of everything.

  • @dylreesYT
    @dylreesYT Год назад +1

    Really wanted to hear more about the health benefits and drawbacks of rice milk. Never tried soy milk by itself but I’ve enjoyed oat milk. Lack of Vitamin D and calcium is a concern though so I guess I’ll have to make sure both options have them added.

  • @andrewrutherford2352
    @andrewrutherford2352 2 года назад +3

    really useful video - thanks

  • @dirtygears6607
    @dirtygears6607 2 года назад +4

    Lesson one, if it doesn’t come from an animal then it’s not milk.

    • @DWPlanetA
      @DWPlanetA  2 года назад

      Milk of magnesia comes from which animal again?

    • @dirtygears6607
      @dirtygears6607 2 года назад +3

      @@DWPlanetA Almond milk for example has a bigger carbon footprint than the dairy industry if they were scaled up to equal sizes.
      Over 80% of almonds are grown in California which require very intensive watering, they also require seasonal pollinators that have to be transported on site and then off site when finished for which this is very detrimental to the environment and insect life.
      Then once you have the almonds they then need to be turned into what is called “almond milk” which is vastly energy consuming, but wait it doesn’t end there as the milk then needs to be transported on huge massive carbon polluting cargo/container ships as the majority of almond milk produced in the US goes overseas to foreign countries.
      At the end off all of this faff is a carbon footprint left on the planet that is substantially larger and immensely more detrimental to the environment than the dairy industry when compared in equal ratios.
      Don’t even get me started on the other so called “milks”.

    • @DWPlanetA
      @DWPlanetA  2 года назад +1

      Yes, thanks for the list of the points mentioned in our video regarding almond milk. If you are interested in the carbon print of other milk alternatives, it is also included in the video above.

  • @Pol-kw5gq
    @Pol-kw5gq 2 года назад +2

    I love soya milk but we’ll see what i wanna try next.
    Update: yes probably will stick to soya but may try out oat milk! Thanks for the video, was very informative

  • @water_jet6061
    @water_jet6061 2 года назад

    that's handy lol, after trying most plant milks my favourites are oat for drinks and soy for cereal anyways

  • @128Cores
    @128Cores 3 года назад +10

    Soy milk is the most common and easiest to get in my country.

    • @jrmint2
      @jrmint2 3 года назад

      It's also the healthiest and most nutritious. Oat milk is great, but only the the commercial ones, oatley taste good.

    • @cassieoz1702
      @cassieoz1702 2 года назад +1

      Pity it tastes awful

    • @128Cores
      @128Cores 2 года назад +1

      @@cassieoz1702 Yeah, i don't like them

  • @Tigre01
    @Tigre01 2 года назад +7

    My favorite is coconut milk, hemp, and then almond milk.

    • @tezzo55
      @tezzo55 2 года назад +1

      Maybe, but they ain't milk, milk ONLY comes from tits.

    • @harukrentz435
      @harukrentz435 2 года назад

      PLEASE dont drink coconut milk, it's nothing but fat and cholesterol. Coconut water however is the best natural drink after water human should consume.

    • @tezzo55
      @tezzo55 2 года назад

      @@harukrentz435 Wrong. The "best natural drink . . . humans should consume" is mother's milk (obviously) which actually IS milk, unlike any of the other "fake" milks being spoken of here.
      These would-be imposter milks are all just sugar water, with dodgy stuff in. So call them what they are, "Dodgy Sugar Water," then avoid them like the rona, as you would any other form of sugar (unless, of course, you are addicted, in which case kick that habit before it kicks you).
      Thank you.

    • @odessaleba7282
      @odessaleba7282 2 года назад +1

      ​@@tezzo55 I thought about it a little and I think language is just evolving, before the word milk was exclusively used for what mammals produce to feed their youngs (also fun fact not every mammals has nipples, monotremes like the platypus don't have any!) but it is now extending it's meaning to a more general term including some plant based liquids that ressemble dairy milk. It seems to me that now the word milk isn't referring to only one product: It can be dairy milk or plant milk. (though it still is associated primarily to dairy milk, most people will think of dairy milk if the word milk is used without specifying if it is plant based or dairy, but maybe in the future the evolution of the word will make the word milk just as much associated to plant based milk than to dairy milk)

    • @tezzo55
      @tezzo55 2 года назад

      @@odessaleba7282 Hey little fella, where'd ya go? Are we still in a convo? Or did all those "facts" from yesterday make you feel queasy?
      Have a beefy day my man :-)))

  • @gert-janvanschaik8151
    @gert-janvanschaik8151 2 года назад +2

    What a about the additives, it is almost impossible to buy soy milk without sugar or stabilizers. Some taste strange because of the stabalizers we think

  • @lkomaromi6878
    @lkomaromi6878 2 года назад

    These videos are very informative, well-researched, and entertaining. Keep up the good work.

  • @Fucoc
    @Fucoc 2 года назад +6

    I think I still prefer cow's milk. It has the best performance when it comes to many traditional Norwegian recipes. Milk is such a big part of our tradition and cuisine that I hardly can imagine it being swapped with anything else anytime soon.

    • @person9854
      @person9854 2 года назад

      Right, and I don't think I've seen any other substitute that holds a nutritional profile similar to cow's milk.

    • @LilliHerveau
      @LilliHerveau 2 года назад +1

      but... but it tastes horrible :( Never understood why I love cheese but despise milk haha. What kind of traditional recipes absolutely require Cow's milk?

    • @ethan-fel
      @ethan-fel 2 года назад +1

      @@LilliHerveau more related to taste more than anything. I'm French and i could drink gallons of Cow Milk.

  • @JayendrenSubramoney
    @JayendrenSubramoney 2 года назад +13

    Excellent Video! I would have liked to have seen how cashew and pea milk stack up. Personally I use soy mostly.

    • @tezzo55
      @tezzo55 2 года назад

      Use whatever you want but don't call it "milk" because it ain't. Just because someone tells you they are jacking-up "virgin's milk" it's still just heroin. All these stuffs are just sugar water with dodgy bits in. Good luck.

    • @NyanyiC
      @NyanyiC 2 года назад +1

      I don't the cashew milk is environmentally friendly.. The cashews expensive and are shipped around the world for processing

    • @tezzo55
      @tezzo55 2 года назад

      @@NyanyiC Only mothers make milk (it's a woman thing)

    • @JayendrenSubramoney
      @JayendrenSubramoney 2 года назад

      @@NyanyiC Without a doubt cashew milk is better than cows milk, but I believe that you are indeed correct - cashew milk is the not best for the environment. Although I am glad that here in Africa we're getting more plant based milks.

  • @slipknot95maggot
    @slipknot95maggot 2 года назад

    Super appreciate any and all serious analysis of all the details involved in accounting for all manner of impact comparisons between products. I've been desperate for more of that for years. At what point EXACTLY does buying local beat out buying more eco-friendly [and how local vs how eco-friendly; etc].? Supply chains..... Products that claim to "pursue sustainability" [ie donating to causes, planting trees, w/e] vs products that don't actively do anything restorative but also don't do as much harm in the first place to offset....... That kind of stuff. But, could I be terrible and ask for a part two...? I've been drinking flax milk soooooo...... Should I switch, or am I about even with oat n soy...? orrrrrrrrr........... xp
    Either way, love it. Super appreciate this type of content. So deeply. Seriously

    • @slipknot95maggot
      @slipknot95maggot 2 года назад

      Also, like, I wanna hear about flax 'cuz that's what I'm drinking currently, but even just generally a part two. There's pecan milk [pecans don't need as much water as almonds.... heck, what nut does.?], hemp...... All kinds of nut milks and seed milks
      Pecan milk with a bit of maple syrup is delicious af by the way
      I'm whole food so I wouldn't normally drink that, give me dates at most, and really just give me unsweetened..............
      But I had some once and I can't pretend that pecan milk with a touch of syrup doesn't taste good af, for anybody who is into that
      Though again, that's just taste. I doubt pecan milk WITH syrup would be the most eco friendly
      I would have guessed nuts milks are worse than grain milks which are worse than seed [/legume] milks. Eco-wise.

  • @lynnhettrick7588
    @lynnhettrick7588 2 года назад

    I'm glad to learn that my own findings match the ones in the video. I had switched to almond milk until I realized how much water they take to grow. Given the choice, I buy oat or soy milk for myself.

  • @jamesleonard4607
    @jamesleonard4607 2 года назад +6

    When taken at face value cows do produce more methane than those crops, however it’s often left out how much carbon is sequestered by pasture lands or crops grown to feed those cattle…. In a single year alfalfa can double the amount of organic matter in a given soil, that crop is a massive carbon sink it’s also a main ingredient in any good dairy ration.

    • @matthewjohnson3656
      @matthewjohnson3656 2 года назад +2

      But if that land had been just left as is to grow naturally it is still a carbon sink. It’s not like the land popped into existence for our use for farming

  • @rovingwaves1199
    @rovingwaves1199 3 года назад +10

    really good video, thank you for making our choice easier!

  • @christopherstein2024
    @christopherstein2024 2 года назад

    When I stopped putting cows milk in my cereal I soon stopped to put in any type of milk.
    I eat oats with a spoon of peanut butter and some fruits. Then I just add as much water as necessary for the right consistency. After a good stir the water looks like plant milk. When you are "washing" the oats it turns the water into a oat milk and the PB adds fat and the fruit sweetness. I think if you add extra milk it gets too much and you get a "soggy" taste after a while. With my method I can let the oats soak a bit until they are tender and it will taste neither soggy nor like water.

  • @ViviCaligo
    @ViviCaligo 2 года назад

    Oat all the way, I started making my own during lockdown just because a big box of oats lasts so long and stopped me having to go to the shops as often plus the pulp goes into breakfast/bakes so it was a nobrainer to just continue.