Was hoping they'd go for a high profile case to get the ball rolling, but this is kind of new ground so getting a precedent set in the courts is probably the smart play. But until those high profile scammers are also brought to justice, it's not enough.
as much as it sucks that i am mostly broke and working super hard as a cook all the time.... seeing stuff like this makes me feel like a really good person.. i work hard and contribute to peoples lives by making them there food every day.... honestly and honorably... and it is worth it... the only sad thing is how many of these scamers will never be punished.... it is very very sad
and yet jake paul isnt arrested and charged despite rug pulling 10x more. this was not about stopping nft scams its about keeping the common people in their place.
Rich people have access to good lawyers, set a precident with someone who can't afford to defend themselves and then use that to build a case against high profile people
when NFT's first started blasting off I wanted to make my own and raise money for AFSP, it was gonna be themed around roses and have a little club called the rose garden. it would have been for suicide awareness and the money from the NFTs would go to the foundation. I let that dream die when everyone started using it as a scam and being assholes with it
@@sparda9060 I'm actually not wrong. I only said US courts don't have jurisdiction in panama, which they don't. And on top of that they don't keep logs so there isn't much to give if they where forced to either. Also PIA was actually brought to a US court on this matter and won the case and didn't have to give jack shit so there is legal precedent for this matter as well. Sure it's not 100% foolproof, but what is?
A VPN itself won't protect you from a dedicated investigation, especially one that can monitor your outbound traffic through your ISP. People need to understand that your ISP will throw you under the bus in a nanosecond and WILL cooperate with authorities to monitor your connection if asked to. You need to layer these services, and preferably begin your connection from an IP that doesn't belong to you and is absolutely unrelated to you. Like MAC address spoofing from a laptop in a car outside a public WiFi connection with no cameras like a small restaurant or a laundomat, or a cracked old WEP router (they're everywhere still) from outside an apartment complex or private home. And for fucks sake don't bring your smartphone with you. Leave that at home next to a PC that's logged into an online game or autoplaying youtube videos for an alibi. Tor over VPN is fairly secure for this purpose, and would be even more so if you used Nordvpn to connect to another foreign VPN service, and through that, then connect to Tor. If you cannot originate from a unrelated connection then you should continue to use your REAL IP for social media and other basic internet functions because a connection that runs ENTIRELY over VPN or Tor looks far more suspicious than a random connection to a VPN in the midst of a flurry of gaming/4k video streaming packets etc. It also can't be stressed enough to use a "clean" browser. Never maximize or change the size of the window, install NO addons, and make NO changes to any settings. Keep it as generic as possible so your browser can't be "profiled". Use this browser ONLY for anonymity needs and for nothing else. Layering services means authorities would need to contact and subpoena the records of three different organizations, of which the endpoint keeps no records, the midpoint's records are entirely useless, and Nord *claims* not to keep records either and will encrypt outgoing packets so your ISP can't read/monitor them. Unless it's a government run exit node from Tor, which would be exceedingly unlucky and can be changed until it resolves to an endpoint you're comfortable with (preferably foreign or out of a nation hostile to U.S. authorities like Russia Belarus etc), you want as many hops and jumps as possible. The connection speed will be VERY slow, and latency horrible, but true security is always slow, no matter the application. Thanks for coming to my Ted Talk.
Thissssss .... Asmon think's he's so smart but he'd probably get caught on some bullshit as well. These kids didn't know someone was monitoring them for that long and basically hunting them down lol... all they can do is precautions and hope for the best and they failed.
so straightforward yet so hard to do correctly and consistently. the problem truly is human patience. but.. what would the issue with maximizing a browser be? i thought that was an OS function, resizing windows, that wouldnt have an effect on the operation of the browser? but there are so many sneaky operations... so whats the problem here
@@michaelwerkov3438 Websites can easily get information about your "portal" size to display images properly on various resolutions and window sizes. Resize your current window and watch all the images and text slide around and resize to fit however large or small you make it. If you have your browser at an odd size you manually dragged it to, this can be used to "fingerprint" your browser. Simply maximizing the window doesn't provide much information on it's own, but it does lead to an eventual fingerprint by giving away your monitor's full resolution, and along with whatever other changes you've made can profile you far more than you'd expect. This is why Tor browser suggests you leave the window at it's initial size, do not maximize, install no addons, make no changes to settings etc so it's "generic" and makes/responds to requests exactly the same as all other properly running Tor browsers. You want to blend in with the crowd as much as you can.
I feel weird having just kinda known most of this stuff despite not knowing a damn thing about actual hacking. like leaving the phone at home and the videos autoplaying for alibi. layering services. do I know kung fu too?
To give you one like is not enough in my opinion. This is exactly the kind of information I was looking for out just to find out what they would've to do to not get busted this easily
Investigators can request information from a VPN service, they don't work as an avenue to hide criminal activity. You'd need a network of infected systems to bounce your request around.
I mean do influencers promise stuff like early access to some game in metaverse like frosties did? I think if they just sell overpriced images and pay taxes they are fine
@@s1rand0m we did at some point decide as a society that because people can be duped, and dont always understand, that we protect the public from fraud. So probs some lawyers. And the scammed peeps. But if they knew they were buying an nft, and it is just a pic, they havent been defrauded, just overpaid.
2 nobodies are unlikely to be able to fight it. And once there's sufficient case-work on it, there's less and less the rich people's lawyers can try to say to get out of it as it's already well established precedent. Otherwise they can try to sway the judge with techno-mumbo-jumbo due to how ""new"" the tech is and that their clients aren't responsible, and while they might still lose, it may get drug out a lot longer than if they were to point to judiciary decisions and say, "you're full of shit, just like your clients".
Because its not about catching people that have already don't it its about putting fear into people that thought about doing it There's no such thing as justice in the us money ignores laws
The IRS assists the FBI through the US Attorney's Office to investigate financial crimes for certain white-collar task forces. It's not just taxes. Wire fraud is an unbelievably wide statute that all kinds of crimes can fall under. Mail and wire fraud are one of the most common charges you'll find federal prisoners get convicted of. For the last few years I've heard so many people say crypto is unregulated because there are no crypto laws. The way I explained it is there is not a anti-chain saw attack law either, but if you assault someone with a chainsaw, it's still an assault. The mechanism to which you are defrauding people is important but it's not as material as the contract/promises made by the person carrying out the fraud. There are people in federal prison for crimes where you can just take out crypto/NFT and replace it with anything someone can sell under false pretenses. These cases move slowly and federal indictments are not like state level indictments. They often done in a cloak of shadows. The cases are much more developed at the point of arrest. In the next 2-3 years there will be plenty more of these arrests to come. Also, they're going to know everything you think is secret on the block chain. All it takes is one of your friends to be on your indictment. The federal system gives a huge discount to those who come to the table first. People are often looking at 20 years but mysteriously get supervised release after a downward departure due to cooperating. All those close friends that you bragged to just have to say you told them X Y Z. Oh, that's not even taking in to consideration if one of these crypto tumblers owner/employees get indicted. They'll probably walk free by giving up the source coue to the encyption process.
Well, from what I understood, it isn't the NFTs in themselves that are the issue, but the rug pulling and taxe evasion. I guess influencers and celebrities doing NFTs are not rug pulling and doing taxe evasion if they aren't being arrested.
the problem isn't NFTs at all. Many of them are completely licensed and legit, people are just going smoothbrain and casting off crypto as a whole because of SOME exploitation...
The idea of 'If you get scammed, you're stupid and deserve to lose your money' I only agree with in the context of NFTs. For scams in general I don't 100% agree since a lot of scams target the elderly and emotionally manipulate them, it's not that they're stupid it's more that the times and technology are so radically different than how they grew up it can be difficult for them to see a scam for what it is.
In fairness, a lot of people buying these NFTs aren’t exactly ones I’d consider mentally mature, financially informed, and emotionally stable. Yes, the elderly are inherently more sympathetic, and those kind of scams are sometimes harder to tell. If anything, all these people buying up NFTs goes to show how much of our population are socially disconnected, computer addicted shut-ins with no firm grasp of reality, who think the internet IS a true representation of reality. And that’s just sad.
I invest in NFTs. I must be really dumb for being up $5,000 on Disney, Marvel, and Coca Cola licensed digital product. Truth. I can't wait to get rug pulled!!
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20:15 I disagree. Putting someone away for 30 years to set an example will not help in any way. People are stupid and will always go for the risk anyway. High risk, high reward! If someone fails, others want to see if they can get away with it! It's like the US laws in regards to guns and weapons. You treat your rights as a joke. You know it's against the laws to kill someone, but you keep doing it.
it will help preventing the non hardcore criminals from commiting crime. That is the intention. Hardcore criminals are already bricked and the police knows that too hence why most of them are either in prison or will be very soon.
Putting someone away for 30 years will 0 effect. It does not matter how hardcore criminal you are. If that was the case, people would stop killing, stealing, etc.
@@egblackfang Putting them away for 30 years means they can't commit any crimes for 30 years, so clearly it has an effect. It keeps society safer. It is not about rehabilitation it is about putting a wild animal in a cage and leaving it there so it can't attack anymore peoples, you don't try to make it behave better because you know it is already lost to it's feral instincts. Either that or you are putting it down through the death penelty. Either works and removing or containing the cancer before it spreads infecting everything in the body is the best solution.
@@gokublack8342 and? I never said anything about the percentage in regards to who kills who. USA are plain idiots, that's what I ment. You cannot buy a scratching card at the age of 14 due to gambling, but you can buy an automatic rifle! Where the f is the logic?
Scammers were lazy and didn't cover their tracks because they didn't think they had to. Nobody was getting in trouble for doing this, so I'm sure they weren't even concerned.
They probably didn't think they needed any technical knowledge to evade capture because this is the first time I've actually heard of anyone ever getting in trouble for doing it.
Just love it that we reached the point where actual games/products etc. do not have a roadmap despite all the promises but every single scam does. So... does it have a roadmap? Oh.. yeah 75% sure it is a scam xD
"These guys aren't going to go to jail for 40 years." People don't go to jail for those sorts of stretches they go to prison. Jail and prison aren't the same thing.
You do know that literally every brand, IP, gaming company, etc, literally every single one is moving to the blockchain, yes? This isn't a coincidence. It isn't just dudes in their basement whipping up JPEGs. Some of you really have zero clue about what is going on.
The fun fact about using charity to scam, charity actually can join into the lawsuit for misrepresentation. Yup the charity can show up, say "We never got the money" and it is an offence for using the good name of the charity!
Lot harder to convict that kind of thing. Easier to catch people over tax evasion. That’s why the government does it. Not because “tHeY oNlY cArE wHeN YoU’Re nOt pAyInG tAxEs”, but because it’s literally easier to trace and prove.
Glad I subbed to this channel...content is always so interesting. Setting an example will only dissuade a few...the rest will just get more creative. The thousands of scammers we know about, is just the tip of the iceberg. We can't assume all scammers are stupid. Some countries...will not say names..are literally run by scammers and criminals (with records) and it's public knowledge that these "leaders" are involved in major fraud cases...the sad thing is, even if they are caught they never get charged...they end up in court cases that last for years (paid by tax payer money) and those cases go nowhere
Im kinda confused and am wondering, cause I noticed on the discord message at 31:54: The timestamp is written in German (gestern um 23: 48 Uhr = yesterday at 11: 48 pm). Where they Germans? Or does it just mean, the mod was German? 🤔
Isn’t scams often technically legal if you disclaimers that says you can’t gurantee people will get their money back investing? And it way more likely a situation like that being shut down from tax evasion than the scam they are doing.
22:59, This proves that you can't idiot-proof a technology or product, as long as there are idiots using them. How humanity had survived to this point is the greatest miracle ever.
You have an IP even using VPN services - no need to know "where You are" but just a cross-reference that the "same IP used" to access two services with two identities attached to them. You would need to disconnect from one node and connect to another to (most likely) get a new IP address.
The "Knowledge" guy had a roadmap for his nft pass thingy, promising exclusive hotel/restaurant for owners... It'd be funny if they got him next, not the biggest influencer, but someone iconic/memorable kind.
One quick note, this is a way the government gets a lot of criminals. For instance, the way they go after a lot of high level drug dealers isn’t by proving that they sold drugs, they get them for tax evasion, which carry’s more time in jail.
They are entirely the future. It isn't just Gamestop and Ubisoft, it is literally EVERY company and brand pushing them. Wake up. Start actually learning about what's going on.
@@BigHotSauceBoss69 yeah, they're pushing them because it's the zeitgeist. it'll die down within a year, i'm sure. They're literally worth nothing.. you don't get any physical ownership of anything unique. I can screenshot every nft that exists and look at them for free forever.. it's value derives purely from hype and mob-mentality.
most of projects start out as legit and then spends 1000$'s to build the games, create the smart contracts, pay for the drops and they make a little bit of money but not enough to pay the workers and then the project dies. Then people who bought in start saying rugpull when really it was a legit project and team but not enough people bought into it to keep the project going.
They did that credit card scam to me once, it was a weird name on that transaction, and around 20$ each month. I called the credit card company and we tried to block them, but we couldn’t, because the name and the amount was constantly changing. I had to get a completely new card afterwards, and I still don’t know where and when it happened.
You can’t trust Discord to not give away your exact info haha … that would be like robbing a bank and leaving your cell phone number and personal address on the scene.
When i was in elementary school me and my friends used to collect and play with these toys called Tico Tacos, i do not know if you know them. It was a fad that lasted like 6 months, then we moved over to pokemon cards or something. When i see the image of an NFT it almost always reminds me one of these characters
One of the golden rules of life is that you don't sh1t where you eat. You make a very clear division between your register life and this second life, and there is zero crossover. That's the people, the property, the gear, the devices, and especially the money never crosses over.
25:30 Your argument is dumb. I don't know what tornado service they used, but a lot of Minecraft Servers are subscribed to a service that blocks VPN users when they try to connect to that server. Here, it doesn't matter what kind of exit node or in what country the exit node is in, it solely matters that you're using a VPN to access that server.
What people here dont understand is that every new asset class goes through this. When equities were first introduced there also was a lot of fraud / instability with them. *(regular stocks). Its growing pains. This happening to NFT's doesnt invalidate the space. If anything it just shows how much potential there is since so many are getting involved so quickly.
"If anything it just shows how much potential there is since so many are getting involved so quickly." Yeah, getting involved in scamming people. Did you not watch the video?
What I basically got from Asmon is "Put those fuckers in jail for a really long time, to send a message. Just don't have me foot the bill. I don't want to pay for that shit."
Asmongold watches video about NFT fraud and various scams... Ends up in him giving more information about all kinds of schemes and financial scams. Much more information than than the video he watches. People thinking: How do you know all this? Asmongold: I played Diablo 2.
Businesses and celebrities who have a business probably wont get in any trouble, because the two nobodies who did as you said did it in a way that they were attempting to dodge Taxes and a bunch of other IRS no nos.
Genuinely find it funny that the gov was like hold on a minute, we lacking in cash, let's get it back, then ice Poseidon and more do the same thing its like, we'll get to it eventually we have more important things to take care of like jaywalking
Just using a VPN isn't good enough, you have to practice good opsec. Sure, a VPN is a good tool to have, but tools can be misused. Also, there's probably some correlation attacks they could do to exploit other bad security practices. Just look at some of the ways various tor users got deanonymized.
Yeh, they arrested two relatively poor dudes tryin to make a quick run ahead. None of the celebrities etc. that are also participating in the same exact thing.
We actually took a screenshot of somebody's NFT to make this thumbnail.
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I’m actually a NFT buyer, but this is hilarious 😂.
And fuck those scammers.
@@Allsurrender what the fuck is wrong with you? are you stupid?
Great
@@Allsurrender prepare for the storm of ppl replying "hOw sTuPiD R u ?". (Not from me tho, if you enjoy it great man!)
fucking hilarious!
Even the joker doesn’t mess with the IRS
I love that scene lol.
Alcapone fought and lost
Scientology did and won because they are more evil.
I'm mad I didn't think of this first
I saw that in chat copycat
Asmon comparing the fraud of millions of dollars to him Ninjaing his guild bank in WOTLK is hilarious
Yeah this is REAL WORLD money from broke idiots. Not RUclipsrs. Not "influencers". This is real world crime.
@yep that, or a lawyer.
@@Yoruharu or both
Train to be a lawyer to know the loopholes in scamming people
@@jesusofsuburbia3675 It's why politicians usually have a history of being in law school.
asmon always tries his best to compare anything, no matter how stupid or far away, to wow.
One of the best jokes ever was the joker saying that he is not crazy enough to fuck with the IRS
Lmao I was thinking the same thing 🤣
Literally when the video brought up the IRS, I immediately thought of the Joker line from Batman: The Animated Series.
"I'm crazy enough to take on batman but the IRS? Noo thank you." Love that line.
You mean when Jokeman says “I must do the peepee poopoo what do for need society”
@@c0ded56 bro go home, you high..
@@thatdude034 lmaooo
@@IPH-1212 lmaoooooooooo
"Getting investment and promising to deliver, then bailing with the money is illegal"
"A Roadmap is a promise"
Laughs in AAA Game studio.
Was hoping they'd go for a high profile case to get the ball rolling, but this is kind of new ground so getting a precedent set in the courts is probably the smart play. But until those high profile scammers are also brought to justice, it's not enough.
as much as it sucks that i am mostly broke and working super hard as a cook all the time.... seeing stuff like this makes me feel like a really good person.. i work hard and contribute to peoples lives by making them there food every day.... honestly and honorably... and it is worth it... the only sad thing is how many of these scamers will never be punished.... it is very very sad
do you also mean politicians lol
and yet jake paul isnt arrested and charged despite rug pulling 10x more.
this was not about stopping nft scams its about keeping the common people in their place.
Yep humans
@Kodiaxx So how do you tell him apart from Logan Paul?
The Stupid Paul Bros. just kinda run together in my mind for being so similar.
Rich people have access to good lawyers, set a precident with someone who can't afford to defend themselves and then use that to build a case against high profile people
when NFT's first started blasting off I wanted to make my own and raise money for AFSP, it was gonna be themed around roses and have a little club called the rose garden. it would have been for suicide awareness and the money from the NFTs would go to the foundation. I let that dream die when everyone started using it as a scam and being assholes with it
Get the domain for AFSP, teach them how to connect a wallet for receiving donations, and educate them to do it through AFSP then help promote it.
"You have to have nord vpn" no asmon that company and all of those companies will give your ip once a court tells them to.
That's why NordVPN operates out of Panama where US courts don't have jurisdiction..
try tails bro
It's about making sure the government doesn't have a lead. (I'm guessing) Are they going to ask every vpn company for your ip?
@@sparda9060 I'm actually not wrong. I only said US courts don't have jurisdiction in panama, which they don't. And on top of that they don't keep logs so there isn't much to give if they where forced to either. Also PIA was actually brought to a US court on this matter and won the case and didn't have to give jack shit so there is legal precedent for this matter as well. Sure it's not 100% foolproof, but what is?
@@sparda9060 Nope.. All VPNs HAVE logs, doesn't mean they KEEP them.. Please read what i write and stop saying i'm wrong for things i've never said..
A VPN itself won't protect you from a dedicated investigation, especially one that can monitor your outbound traffic through your ISP. People need to understand that your ISP will throw you under the bus in a nanosecond and WILL cooperate with authorities to monitor your connection if asked to. You need to layer these services, and preferably begin your connection from an IP that doesn't belong to you and is absolutely unrelated to you. Like MAC address spoofing from a laptop in a car outside a public WiFi connection with no cameras like a small restaurant or a laundomat, or a cracked old WEP router (they're everywhere still) from outside an apartment complex or private home. And for fucks sake don't bring your smartphone with you. Leave that at home next to a PC that's logged into an online game or autoplaying youtube videos for an alibi.
Tor over VPN is fairly secure for this purpose, and would be even more so if you used Nordvpn to connect to another foreign VPN service, and through that, then connect to Tor. If you cannot originate from a unrelated connection then you should continue to use your REAL IP for social media and other basic internet functions because a connection that runs ENTIRELY over VPN or Tor looks far more suspicious than a random connection to a VPN in the midst of a flurry of gaming/4k video streaming packets etc. It also can't be stressed enough to use a "clean" browser. Never maximize or change the size of the window, install NO addons, and make NO changes to any settings. Keep it as generic as possible so your browser can't be "profiled". Use this browser ONLY for anonymity needs and for nothing else.
Layering services means authorities would need to contact and subpoena the records of three different organizations, of which the endpoint keeps no records, the midpoint's records are entirely useless, and Nord *claims* not to keep records either and will encrypt outgoing packets so your ISP can't read/monitor them. Unless it's a government run exit node from Tor, which would be exceedingly unlucky and can be changed until it resolves to an endpoint you're comfortable with (preferably foreign or out of a nation hostile to U.S. authorities like Russia Belarus etc), you want as many hops and jumps as possible. The connection speed will be VERY slow, and latency horrible, but true security is always slow, no matter the application.
Thanks for coming to my Ted Talk.
Thissssss .... Asmon think's he's so smart but he'd probably get caught on some bullshit as well. These kids didn't know someone was monitoring them for that long and basically hunting them down lol... all they can do is precautions and hope for the best and they failed.
so straightforward yet so hard to do correctly and consistently. the problem truly is human patience.
but.. what would the issue with maximizing a browser be? i thought that was an OS function, resizing windows, that wouldnt have an effect on the operation of the browser?
but there are so many sneaky operations... so whats the problem here
@@michaelwerkov3438 Websites can easily get information about your "portal" size to display images properly on various resolutions and window sizes. Resize your current window and watch all the images and text slide around and resize to fit however large or small you make it. If you have your browser at an odd size you manually dragged it to, this can be used to "fingerprint" your browser.
Simply maximizing the window doesn't provide much information on it's own, but it does lead to an eventual fingerprint by giving away your monitor's full resolution, and along with whatever other changes you've made can profile you far more than you'd expect. This is why Tor browser suggests you leave the window at it's initial size, do not maximize, install no addons, make no changes to settings etc so it's "generic" and makes/responds to requests exactly the same as all other properly running Tor browsers. You want to blend in with the crowd as much as you can.
I feel weird having just kinda known most of this stuff despite not knowing a damn thing about actual hacking. like leaving the phone at home and the videos autoplaying for alibi. layering services. do I know kung fu too?
To give you one like is not enough in my opinion. This is exactly the kind of information I was looking for out just to find out what they would've to do to not get busted this easily
Investigators can request information from a VPN service, they don't work as an avenue to hide criminal activity. You'd need a network of infected systems to bounce your request around.
Unless its your own VPN network
Depends on the VPN
The government is like “only we scam peoples money 😡🤬”
Funny isn’t it, messing with money gets you 40 years, but let’s say murder and rape only gets you 10, what a world
0:29 I think anyone who names themselves "iloveponzi" probably deserves to get scammed.
We arrested 2 random guys
But we pretend all the big ones don't exist. The moment all the influencer are in jail ill believe it.
They probably paid an accountant to get their taxes in order.
I mean do influencers promise stuff like early access to some game in metaverse like frosties did? I think if they just sell overpriced images and pay taxes they are fine
@@s1rand0m that's it. You gotta not roadmap, and say they're pics. No fraud
@@bibsp3556 i mean to the buyers its still taking a huge L und basicly getting scammed but its their decision to buy so who cares
@@s1rand0m we did at some point decide as a society that because people can be duped, and dont always understand, that we protect the public from fraud. So probs some lawyers. And the scammed peeps.
But if they knew they were buying an nft, and it is just a pic, they havent been defrauded, just overpaid.
I don’t know why, but this doesn’t feel like justice when 2 nobodies have gotten charged when giant influencers have gotten away with waaaay worse.
2 nobodies are unlikely to be able to fight it. And once there's sufficient case-work on it, there's less and less the rich people's lawyers can try to say to get out of it as it's already well established precedent. Otherwise they can try to sway the judge with techno-mumbo-jumbo due to how ""new"" the tech is and that their clients aren't responsible, and while they might still lose, it may get drug out a lot longer than if they were to point to judiciary decisions and say, "you're full of shit, just like your clients".
"this doesn't feel like justice".. ok buddy
Because its not about catching people that have already don't it its about putting fear into people that thought about doing it
There's no such thing as justice in the us money ignores laws
@@mekal779 America bad circlejerk
The IRS assists the FBI through the US Attorney's Office to investigate financial crimes for certain white-collar task forces. It's not just taxes. Wire fraud is an unbelievably wide statute that all kinds of crimes can fall under. Mail and wire fraud are one of the most common charges you'll find federal prisoners get convicted of. For the last few years I've heard so many people say crypto is unregulated because there are no crypto laws. The way I explained it is there is not a anti-chain saw attack law either, but if you assault someone with a chainsaw, it's still an assault. The mechanism to which you are defrauding people is important but it's not as material as the contract/promises made by the person carrying out the fraud.
There are people in federal prison for crimes where you can just take out crypto/NFT and replace it with anything someone can sell under false pretenses. These cases move slowly and federal indictments are not like state level indictments. They often done in a cloak of shadows. The cases are much more developed at the point of arrest. In the next 2-3 years there will be plenty more of these arrests to come. Also, they're going to know everything you think is secret on the block chain.
All it takes is one of your friends to be on your indictment. The federal system gives a huge discount to those who come to the table first. People are often looking at 20 years but mysteriously get supervised release after a downward departure due to cooperating. All those close friends that you bragged to just have to say you told them X Y Z. Oh, that's not even taking in to consideration if one of these crypto tumblers owner/employees get indicted. They'll probably walk free by giving up the source coue to the encyption process.
Well, from what I understood, it isn't the NFTs in themselves that are the issue, but the rug pulling and taxe evasion. I guess influencers and celebrities doing NFTs are not rug pulling and doing taxe evasion if they aren't being arrested.
the problem isn't NFTs at all. Many of them are completely licensed and legit, people are just going smoothbrain and casting off crypto as a whole because of SOME exploitation...
Exactly bro If they would’ve just shared some of that with the IRS everything would’ve been gravy
30 years without criminal history based on "making an example" is what's wrong with the American judicial system and public.
2 people getting caught doesnt even scratch the surface of the nft problem.
The idea of 'If you get scammed, you're stupid and deserve to lose your money' I only agree with in the context of NFTs. For scams in general I don't 100% agree since a lot of scams target the elderly and emotionally manipulate them, it's not that they're stupid it's more that the times and technology are so radically different than how they grew up it can be difficult for them to see a scam for what it is.
not to mention some scams are just damn good.
@@SoulDevoured Some can be really sophisticated yeah.
Recently even Jim Browning got scammed, and he showcases how scams work for a living.
In fairness, a lot of people buying these NFTs aren’t exactly ones I’d consider mentally mature, financially informed, and emotionally stable. Yes, the elderly are inherently more sympathetic, and those kind of scams are sometimes harder to tell.
If anything, all these people buying up NFTs goes to show how much of our population are socially disconnected, computer addicted shut-ins with no firm grasp of reality, who think the internet IS a true representation of reality. And that’s just sad.
Arrest all scammers and use the money for something useful, people dumb enough to invest in nfts dont deserve money anyway.
I invest in NFTs. I must be really dumb for being up $5,000 on Disney, Marvel, and Coca Cola licensed digital product. Truth. I can't wait to get rug pulled!!
@@BigHotSauceBoss69 lol. Keep clawing your way up the pyramid scheme.
@@BigHotSauceBoss69It'd be better to invest in Japanese yen government bonds just because you'd at least get most of your money back.
From California Your work in fighting scams is invaluable. I was scammed twice last year, totaling losses over $120,000. It was a lengthy process involving federal intervention to get her money back. We need more people like *Prophecytrace* taking a stand against these criminals. Much love and support from California’s……
Sounds like their biggest mistake was not hiring a lawyer ahead of time. Or at least when they made their initial income and could afford it.
9:20
"A fool and their money are soon parted."
Truer words were never spoken.
I wanna See his reaction to the new Internet Historian Video. It was soooo good 😂
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Nah not really
I commend the boldness and cunning of a good scammer, but what kind of fool plays with the government?
20:15 I disagree. Putting someone away for 30 years to set an example will not help in any way. People are stupid and will always go for the risk anyway. High risk, high reward! If someone fails, others want to see if they can get away with it! It's like the US laws in regards to guns and weapons. You treat your rights as a joke. You know it's against the laws to kill someone, but you keep doing it.
it will help preventing the non hardcore criminals from commiting crime. That is the intention. Hardcore criminals are already bricked and the police knows that too hence why most of them are either in prison or will be very soon.
Putting someone away for 30 years will 0 effect. It does not matter how hardcore criminal you are. If that was the case, people would stop killing, stealing, etc.
@@egblackfang Putting them away for 30 years means they can't commit any crimes for 30 years, so clearly it has an effect. It keeps society safer. It is not about rehabilitation it is about putting a wild animal in a cage and leaving it there so it can't attack anymore peoples, you don't try to make it behave better because you know it is already lost to it's feral instincts. Either that or you are putting it down through the death penelty. Either works and removing or containing the cancer before it spreads infecting everything in the body is the best solution.
@@gokublack8342 and? I never said anything about the percentage in regards to who kills who. USA are plain idiots, that's what I ment. You cannot buy a scratching card at the age of 14 due to gambling, but you can buy an automatic rifle! Where the f is the logic?
"what are you in for?"
"I made 1.1million scamming people with things they can't hold"
You get more commissioning artists online than buying a saved template of a recolored character.
VPN companies, surely they’ll save me from the authorities and not simply hand my information over when asked
Depends where the company is based. Some countries would have no incentive or legal duty to turn your information over
@@Zenith_Star69 lmao you know all these vpn companies are owned by a few bigger ones? its all bullshit you are not safe
@@chris99542 prove me wrong or your comment is useless.
Scammers were lazy and didn't cover their tracks because they didn't think they had to. Nobody was getting in trouble for doing this, so I'm sure they weren't even concerned.
They probably didn't think they needed any technical knowledge to evade capture because this is the first time I've actually heard of anyone ever getting in trouble for doing it.
Just love it that we reached the point where actual games/products etc. do not have a roadmap despite all the promises but every single scam does. So... does it have a roadmap? Oh.. yeah 75% sure it is a scam xD
"These guys aren't going to go to jail for 40 years."
People don't go to jail for those sorts of stretches they go to prison. Jail and prison aren't the same thing.
NFTs in general are dumb, lock em' all up. You have to be really dumb to give your money away to NFT's in hopes you'll get rich.
You do know that literally every brand, IP, gaming company, etc, literally every single one is moving to the blockchain, yes? This isn't a coincidence. It isn't just dudes in their basement whipping up JPEGs. Some of you really have zero clue about what is going on.
Valve and Steam as the exception, and they will regret their decision to be so ignorant as well
The only effective us department is the irs, you don’t mess with the irs.
only 2 things are certain in life.
1. death
2. taxes
Their mistakes :
- Not paying IRS
- Not being celebrities
A roadmap is a promise, tell that to Star Citizen
The fun fact about using charity to scam, charity actually can join into the lawsuit for misrepresentation. Yup the charity can show up, say "We never got the money" and it is an offence for using the good name of the charity!
Now lets see if a "Public Figure" or "Influencer" actually goes to jail over this.
Lot harder to convict that kind of thing. Easier to catch people over tax evasion. That’s why the government does it. Not because “tHeY oNlY cArE wHeN YoU’Re nOt pAyInG tAxEs”, but because it’s literally easier to trace and prove.
Glad I subbed to this channel...content is always so interesting. Setting an example will only dissuade a few...the rest will just get more creative. The thousands of scammers we know about, is just the tip of the iceberg. We can't assume all scammers are stupid. Some countries...will not say names..are literally run by scammers and criminals (with records) and it's public knowledge that these "leaders" are involved in major fraud cases...the sad thing is, even if they are caught they never get charged...they end up in court cases that last for years (paid by tax payer money) and those cases go nowhere
- How can I protect my grandmother from being scammed?
- Buy her a copy of Diablo 2. She'll learn my friend... she'll learn.
Im kinda confused and am wondering, cause I noticed on the discord message at 31:54: The timestamp is written in German (gestern um 23: 48 Uhr = yesterday at 11: 48 pm). Where they Germans? Or does it just mean, the mod was German? 🤔
Isn’t scams often technically legal if you disclaimers that says you can’t gurantee people will get their money back investing? And it way more likely a situation like that being shut down from tax evasion than the scam they are doing.
All I can say is " The wheels of justice turn slowly, but grind exceedingly fine."
When money is involved, yeah...
22:59, This proves that you can't idiot-proof a technology or product, as long as there are idiots using them. How humanity had survived to this point is the greatest miracle ever.
You have an IP even using VPN services - no need to know "where You are" but just a cross-reference that the "same IP used" to access two services with two identities attached to them.
You would need to disconnect from one node and connect to another to (most likely) get a new IP address.
The "Knowledge" guy had a roadmap for his nft pass thingy, promising exclusive hotel/restaurant for owners...
It'd be funny if they got him next, not the biggest influencer, but someone iconic/memorable kind.
Rule number 1: Don't f with the IRS Mafia.
One quick note, this is a way the government gets a lot of criminals. For instance, the way they go after a lot of high level drug dealers isn’t by proving that they sold drugs, they get them for tax evasion, which carry’s more time in jail.
And Ubisoft and Gamestop want NFT's to be the future 🤣🤣🤣
They are entirely the future. It isn't just Gamestop and Ubisoft, it is literally EVERY company and brand pushing them. Wake up. Start actually learning about what's going on.
@@BigHotSauceBoss69 yeah, they're pushing them because it's the zeitgeist. it'll die down within a year, i'm sure. They're literally worth nothing.. you don't get any physical ownership of anything unique. I can screenshot every nft that exists and look at them for free forever.. it's value derives purely from hype and mob-mentality.
Man you kill me😂 the diablo 2 gold bit, I'd still be applauding you now! 😂
Totally agreed, got caught cause they didn't pay taxes not for scamming
most of projects start out as legit and then spends 1000$'s to build the games, create the smart contracts, pay for the drops and they make a little bit of money but not enough to pay the workers and then the project dies. Then people who bought in start saying rugpull when really it was a legit project and team but not enough people bought into it to keep the project going.
10:36 well that is small time and more sporadic, big time scamming is a different people
All VPN keep session logs for a very simple reason : they wouldn't be allowed to work.
I agree.
Good that authorities started doing something, but I won't believe it until someone really goes to jail.
They failed to pay their cut to the state mobsters, they will get caged like anyone who fails to pay protection money.
They never learn, you dont fuck with the IRS
They did that credit card scam to me once, it was a weird name on that transaction, and around 20$ each month. I called the credit card company and we tried to block them, but we couldn’t, because the name and the amount was constantly changing. I had to get a completely new card afterwards, and I still don’t know where and when it happened.
vpns don't always work ok
if you connect to a discord and the vpn disconnects at any time the ip gets pushed towards your real ip
You can’t trust Discord to not give away your exact info haha … that would be like robbing a bank and leaving your cell phone number and personal address on the scene.
Thank you for helping me warn some friends about a possible sticky situation.
your "friends" sound like shitty people
As a gamer if there is a level name IRS, you know you will not win even if is pay to win.
These two guys actually did more for charity than Amber Heard with her "pledged" millions!
Just think about it😂😂😂
When i was in elementary school me and my friends used to collect and play with these toys called Tico Tacos, i do not know if you know them. It was a fad that lasted like 6 months, then we moved over to pokemon cards or something. When i see the image of an NFT it almost always reminds me one of these characters
Wasn't me "Sir you are literally wearing the same shirt."
"You dont fuck with the IRS"
- Wesley Snipes
-Tupac
-Al Capone
-OJ Simpson
Going after some randos is a classic US move. Anyone slightly bigger has better lawyers to get around it
I don't understand why they would risk rugpulling when they could just "mantain" the platform doing almost nothing
Icey Poseidon: *chuckles* "I'm in danger"
One of the golden rules of life is that you don't sh1t where you eat. You make a very clear division between your register life and this second life, and there is zero crossover. That's the people, the property, the gear, the devices, and especially the money never crosses over.
25:30 Your argument is dumb.
I don't know what tornado service they used, but a lot of Minecraft Servers are subscribed to a service that blocks VPN users when they try to connect to that server. Here, it doesn't matter what kind of exit node or in what country the exit node is in, it solely matters that you're using a VPN to access that server.
6:03 I mean that is the way it was noticed for example
Rich and famous people can scam you, but not nobodies… lol
"I might be crazy enough to take on Batman.... But the IRS???? NOOOOOOOOO THANK YOU!" - The Joker
02:19 I always see Ryan McGee from Super Mega every time someone uses this video of the FBI guys lol
What people here dont understand is that every new asset class goes through this. When equities were first introduced there also was a lot of fraud / instability with them. *(regular stocks). Its growing pains. This happening to NFT's doesnt invalidate the space. If anything it just shows how much potential there is since so many are getting involved so quickly.
"If anything it just shows how much potential there is since so many are getting involved so quickly."
Yeah, getting involved in scamming people. Did you not watch the video?
@@savvythedivineyethuggable7493 Did you not read what i wrote. Even the regular stock market had a "scamming phase" when it first started out.
@@TehBananaBread Yeah, but the "so many are involved" isn't doing anything when the majority are these people.
Get those high profile people go to jail.
Fraud is not a victimless crime.
22:25 I think there's an actual legal term for that... maybe common law?
What I basically got from Asmon is "Put those fuckers in jail for a really long time, to send a message. Just don't have me foot the bill. I don't want to pay for that shit."
Asmongold watches video about NFT fraud and various scams... Ends up in him giving more information about all kinds of schemes and financial scams. Much more information than than the video he watches.
People thinking: How do you know all this?
Asmongold: I played Diablo 2.
Moral of the story: ALWAYS give the IRS their cut.
😂😂 a 9.99 a month membership to any VPN company would have saved them 😂😂
Lol rug puller critiquing a rug puller.
Businesses and celebrities who have a business probably wont get in any trouble, because the two nobodies who did as you said did it in a way that they were attempting to dodge Taxes and a bunch of other IRS no nos.
Genuinely find it funny that the gov was like hold on a minute, we lacking in cash, let's get it back, then ice Poseidon and more do the same thing its like, we'll get to it eventually we have more important things to take care of like jaywalking
Their biggest mistake was forgetting the fact that the common citizens are the only ones that have to follow the law.
They donated to charity but didn't donate to their local government. Uncle Sam stepped in and said he wanted his piece.
Ig nft influencers have been real quiet since this dropped
VPN won't help you, you can still be tracked.
The government doesn't like competition.
They sure knocked the beehive that is the IRS.
Just using a VPN isn't good enough, you have to practice good opsec. Sure, a VPN is a good tool to have, but tools can be misused. Also, there's probably some correlation attacks they could do to exploit other bad security practices. Just look at some of the ways various tor users got deanonymized.
even the joker was afraid of the IRS
Yeh, they arrested two relatively poor dudes tryin to make a quick run ahead. None of the celebrities etc. that are also participating in the same exact thing.