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Karl would have probably posted a video down the line once everything was out of the court, and then everyone of us would have pretty much just whatched it and forgotten the detais. It'hilarious that this whole saga is ultimately about an acient video game for children almost none particularly cares for.
By far the saddest, most pathetic thing about the whole debacle is that this is Billy's ENTIRE LIFE. The rest of us only stop by a couple of times a month to laugh at him, but he's thinking about this every minute of every day. He has absolutely nothing else.
Not really he owns a chain of restaurants in south Florida and spends a lot of time there. Ironically all his restaurants have arcade machines like Pac-Man and donkey Kong
in this case it would makesense as to why he is so protective of this record if his businesses are themed around this one achievement he has a vested interest in keeping his public image and that involves the notion of being a record holder.@@TheMycrafters
@@TheMycraftersholy shit you couldnt be more misinformed lol. He owns no restaurants. He has a 1/16 share in one that he is banned from because his sister hates him.
Walter was pressured by the Jewish cabal and didn’t have a choice. Day himself admitted he made everything up and said “ I will serve Billy’s incarceration. If not allowed I will live stream my death. I’m trash I’m junk “. Walter went on to say
The saddest part is that none of this needed to happen. Billy already got his fame, his money and celebrity from the fake records. Getting banned and exposed for cheating was a blow, but it wasn't the end of the world. He could have just lied and retired from public, getting away with all the lies and crime. But no, his ego couldn't take it and he just had to go and try to ruin innocent people's lives. He just had to commit multiple actual crimes in the process. Now it's too late....
I said it last night, on another video. But he’s formed a cult of personality around himself, and he can’t let that crumble. He’s doing everything in his power to maintain it, despite the fact that the general public has already turned against him.
@@benmarles5879 His hair says everything about him. He thinks he looks good. Anyone not friends with him, immediately laughs a bit when they see him. It's really no more complicated than narcissism. But dang it is funny to see him in public looking like he does, and seeing his sneer as he actually believes he is hot stuff. Lol.
Now it's too late Is it? Can Billy at this point try to wriggle out of this? Can he avoid punishment if he agrees to drop lawsuits and admits he cheated?
same with snort hogan aka dsp.. dsp went bankrupt traveling to streetfighter arcade game tournaments, now is a beggar who streams... he lied about his own bankruptcy and its all documented... and yet they allow him to stream and panhandle every day, while cursing people out and demanding tips....
"what did you get in here for" 'defrauding the government for $90 billion dollars' "what did he get in here for" 'he lied so much about Donkey Kong he went to prison' "Lmfao" 'lmfao'
Woah, leave it to Billy to be so woven in lies that even within the same breath they're be contradicted by themselves. That's something special right there. Thank you for putting out this information.
I love the everything Billy does directly financially supports the guy he's suing. He literally is funding Karl's legal team by being himself. Also the audacity of "Yeah I helped him do tests, but no I didn't help him with testing."
with that one i can kinda see billy's point though. if he's just playing and the guy starts doing tests its not really the same thing as the guy asking billy to help him do some tests, and then they start doing tests together.
This wasn't the final nail in the coffin. This was the incineration. My older sister is a lawyer. She said that even in a deposition, lying is considered perjury because you're still under oath. Just based on that, I think that Billy is going to prison. When the judge decides his punishment, I'm going to cheer.
I highly doubt he's going to go to prison. It's a civil lawsuit. Sure lying in a deposition can land you in jail. But going to prison. Doubt it. He's probably going to lose a lot of money and broke.
people RARELY go to jail over prejury. People lie on the stand, right infront of the judge, and nothing happens all the time. He will be in more trouble for faking evidence. Hes probably not gonna go to jail, probably wont pay his legal fees for the first year or two after he loses, and then finally after being threatened with more sanctions and jail time, Billy will pay the fines and fees. Billy will likely wait as long as humanly possible to give them their money.
@@FullAltOsuYup, it's too easy to just claim that you forgot or you're just stupid, and the court can't really prove otherwise, so they rarely ever punish perjury beyond monetary sanctions.
The entire situation with Billy Mitchell is the biggest case of Streisand Effect I've seen in recent years. The more Billy tries to hide and lie about this whole court case with Twin Galaxies to keep it away from the public, the more people end up finding out about this situation in the first place. He literally does the opposite of what his intentions are.
Hey Karl, would you consider organizing all your Billy-related content into its own playlist so that the entire saga can easily be followed from start to finish?
It would be so great if once this all ends, someone (hopefully Karl) will make a whole mini documentary about it, seems only fitting for the "king of Kong"
The strange thing about compulsive liars is that they're compelled to lie even when telling the truth benefits them more. It's really weird to watch them dig their own grave for literally no reason - but somehow they also happen to be the types of people who manage to lie so much they obfuscate the actual reality of the scenario.
His entire persona and reputation is so dependent on lies that letting the truth slip even once might cause the whole thing to unravel, so at this point he lies just to be safe. ofc if he had any self-awareness or humility he'd realize his reputation is already that of a lolcow
Not sure I'd classify Billy Mitchell as a compulsive liar in the classic sense. He has no life or future outside being famous for Pac-Man and Donkey Kong. If you took it away, he would have nothing and be nothing. Of course, he'd stop at nothing, including spinning a massive web of lies to protect it. A lot of people would do the same thing, and that should be the scarier part.
I always think about that tommy tallarico guy. dude was a legit pioneer in the video game industry but couldnt help inflating his achievements over the decades until they were simply unbelievable.
billy mitchell isn't a compulsive liar, he is a sociopath. his lies are deliberate and intentional, but he is also very stupid and often makes choices that are mean to assuage his ego that end up deepening his real-world problems. but since he is a sociopath his own ego is more important than anything real.
Calling Billy a con artist is an insult to *actual* con artists. True matchstick men wouldn't be caught dead in a scandal like this. All Billy does is insist that his lies aren't lies, a (great) con artist weaves their sticky little tendtrils and schemes through things without being noticed or caught until it's too late to do anything about it. :P
yes KARL is jealous leech. he slander public sucessful persons to get 5 more kangero dolar in ad revenueue. karl is mad bcuz he will loss in court against bily, famous player, business man and world record hollder
Craziest thing about this whole saga is that if Billy put even half as much effort into the actual video game playing he might have actually achieved the things he claims he has.
yup. it's a shame. he is genuinely great at the game.. but he decided to cheat to speed up the time to get where he could have naturally been im another year.
Nicely done Karl. Just remember you stated years ago that your channel is not primarily controversy; don’t let Billy push you to be the angry man he is and wants you to appear to be. I’d love more speedrun content again, keep us in the loop, just don’t lose sight of a clean victory.
@@karljobst So in a weird sort of way, Billy's orchestrated and funded his own downfall? It's just a tragedy that you've had to go through all this shit.
@@TheSteelcrynot a problem for me as I wasn't expecting a reply. I'm sure he's got enough on his plate fighting the bullshit lawsuits and making great content.
@@TheSteelcry People don't do good things just for acknowledgment and praise. They do them because the world's simply a better place when we do good things for each other. That's something you might want to consider in future, because comments like this make you look like a very small and bitter person.
@@TheSteelcry You should never donate or send money to content creators/public figures with an expectation that they’ll acknowledge you. I’ve always had this ideal that if I ever start a serious RUclips channel, I would respond to every comment and interact with my subscribers, but it’s extremely unrealistic. I mean… there’s 5.6k comments here. lol
I know some people are getting tired of it, but frankly? After the _years upon years_ of nightmarish shit that Billy has put people through? Karl deserves to post as much Billy Mitchell content as he wants.
It's oddly really encouraging to see you sticking to your guns on this. It's just good to see that there are people out there that can and will fight to see karmic justice served. God bless speedrunners, you all have way more patience than I ever did.
KARL video is full of lie after lie. remember he is biased bcuz billi is sueing him (rightfuly) for slander so dont trust KARL. he is jealous of billi being documentary star and rich from famous sauce. BILLY is legend and businessman, Karl seem to pretend to want to be digital crocodile hunter. its all he will ever be. too bad he has to slander big billy to get view and income. never trust KARL he hate when other sucess
Dude, I can’t wait to see the end of this saga. Karl, you have inspired so many people to stand up for themselves. I’m also grateful that so many people have supported you in this.
@@KomboEzaliTe they could be legit, but at that point they’d have to be sidestepping a mountain of evidence that spells out “BILLY IS A FRAUD” in letters so massive they can be read from space.
Lying under oath feels so unpunished nowadays. Can’t believe there’s literally no additional charges for him. I guess you can lie all you want directly at lawyers and judges faces and make the entire judicial system a joke as long as you’re just gonna lose the case anyways.
This is a civil case afaik, not a criminal case. Whether or not he is prosecuted for lying under oath has literally nothing to do with this case itself.
What lying under oath does is you losing the trust of the community. Can't speak of Billy's situation, wouldn't know exactly, but that is a much harsher punishment than getting put in a box for a while
It does seem awfully common and I'm not sure at what point perjury becomes an actionable crime. Be nice if people were fined for lying about news etc of course Faux "News" wouldn't be able to function...actually that would be a great thing.
It's a simple case of a man from an older generation not understanding that thanks to the internet he can't lie as easily as he could back in his day. There's some weird stuff going on in his small circle of friends, and that house of cards is about to fall.
"It's a simple case of a man from an older generation not understanding that thanks to the internet he can't lie as easily as he could back in his day" - You clearly are not from the U.S., where there are tens of millions of people who rabidly support someone who lies even more than Billy does, and that con man's lies are much more impactful than Billy's. There are also tons of people of all ages, from all over the world, who support and believe Elon Musk, who loves to lie and spread conspiracy theories, regardless of how easy they are to debunk. So, as much as I hate to say it, it's just as easy to lie today as it was 40 years ago. In fact, I would say that it's actually easier to lie today because so many people actively reject reality now and it's easier today than in bygone years to find an echo chamber to reinforce what you already want to believe.
horrible take, cheaters got CAUGHT back then, now they lie with photoshopping and that shit, not saying its happening in this case at all but it does happen
From Guicciardini's "Ricordi" - "Deny, deny, deny. Even if you were caught and the evidence is right in front of you, persistent denial will at least cause some doubt." lol
He did what people like him always do: attack perceived easy prey and think that the shear intimidation will shut the truth up for them to then steam roll over on their way in life. But justice, truth, and reality didn't bend to Bitchells will this time.
@@Vykk_DraygoIn the case of Billy Mitchell, he absolutely likes to attack people that he perceives as being weak. Plenty of other people have criticized and talked badly about his character but he doesn’t sue them because they’re rich and have resources at their disposal (like Adam Sandler, who made an entire movie satirizing Billy Mitchell, and Notch the creator of Minecraft, who has spoken badly of Mitchell and has donated to Karl’s GoFund). Billy goes after people he thinks will back down with petty threats. He just didn’t think Karl would fight back and have his whole community supporting him. Guy’s a bully and a coward.
As someone who has dealt with abusive family members who lie and thoughtlessly harm others, then play the victim when they're held accountable, thank you so much for being so unrelenting, Karl. Goddamn, I wish more people were like you.
Glad someone else has made this comparison. He lies so effortlessly and is clearly doing so to gain a position of power over people, I'd hate to ever work near him/be related to him because it really speaks to his character (also grew up with abusive family so I'm glad you're okay)
Listening to Billy is like listening to a teenager. His lies about testing were probably the most damning. It’s ridiculous. It’s like saying, “Billy. Did you transport people somewhere?” Billy: “No. I just drove the car.”
What do you expect from a low IQ loser who did nothing but play Donkey Kong his whole life? Just shows his mental and emotional maturity is that of a 12 year old (and I'm being generous there)
Seriously. Even if he wanted to lie about the testing, when shown the video you just say that you forgot about that time. If it was a one off thing with a small comment that happened while playing the game, most people would understand that you might not have been paying close attention and forgot about it later. Even if that's a lie too, no one can prove what you do or don't remember. Instead he feels compelled to blatantly lie which is only going to make people think that he's trying to intentionally hide stuff.
The funniest thing about this saga to me is that it’s obvious these videos have been sitting on the back burner for weeks but jobst was FINALLY legally cleared to post them all which shows billy Mitchell doesn’t stand a single chance. Video after video daily recently have been killing it and I support.
Its honestly really fucked up that liars like Billy can just sue people exposing their scummy behavior into oblivion, if it weren't for Karl's incredibly kind & based community helping cover the legal fees he would have been stuck with multiple hundreds of thousands of dollars that he would have had to somehow come up with (to my understanding at least, please correct me if I'm wrong here) That being said, it makes me so happy being able to witness Billy's descent into his inevitable downfall, getting closer with every video Karl releases. He really did fuck around and find out
They can't lie forever, especially if the game devs get involved to stamp out cheating in any community but yes it is fucked up and anyone who suffers this should get reimbursed for ALL legal fees (by the person suing them ideally)
If karma exists, he'll spend time in prison, he'll lose all his assets, and he'll be branded a fraud for life. Anything less than that means there is no true karmic justice.
@@eddierusset he is already branded fraud for life by anyone who gives a shit - but, he already was. they were dumb enough to act like shitheads on a documentary, they clearly showed that twin galaxies was not a fair esports platform when day and billy ran it. this cost them untold millions of money and shows how incompetent they were and that was just right at the time when esports was picking up more speed from just cs tournaments and stuff like that. it's a market if they weren't incompetent frauds they could have made a lot of money from, they were there on day 1 but people just passed them as an option because they were dumb f***s. think about it, day was in a position where he could have been karl, the dad of the community. if billy wasn't obsessed with getting an another forever record he wouldn't have needed to cheat, if he had just approached it with sportsmanship he could have been the grand old man and could have done actual pr for esports. instead he chose to be an asshat and couldn't even understand the game enough so that even his cheated records got beaten without cheating.
Let's all remind ourself that everything that has happened after the initial expose inn 2018 would have been avoided if Billy did the sensible thing and just fell back into obscurity. Billy 100% brought whatever outcome comes out of this upon himself.
I know you said it would takes years for you to cover all his lies, but please do it 😂 I want to see how much backtracking and story changing he's actually done since his "world record", and your coverage and explanations of it all are the best I've seen
How do these lawyers not bust out laughing? After showing evidence, than hearing him lie after seeing this evidence, I would not be able to hold it in. I would laugh so hard.
I wonder how the lawyer is so patient. "Did you do X?" "No" "Here is video of you doing X that you said you didn't do. Did you do X?" "Well yes, but I would have done it either way." "So you lied about saying you didn't do X?" "No" At that point, the whole trial should be thrown out and him slapped for Prudery not even 2 minutes after the given statement. I am surprised people don't get thrown for that more often.
This deserves an Ace Attorney edit Animatic Heck, a playable version even, B side and K side. (Playing the losing side and trying to win or draw can be fun) XD
It must be terribly frustrating to be an attorney of cases like this in the moment, but hindsight makes it so entertaining. This Billy Mitchell case is absurd enough to be on like, Law & Order. Eventually, after he’s been pummeled into the dirt, I can already see his lawyer strolling up looking to settle after all of his bullshit
As an american with a passing (IANAL) understanding of the state of the law, perjury in the US is rarely prosecuted, and jail time is employed even less. So while it could land billy in jail, it’s more likely to just cost him more on damages. Just to keep expectations managed. Great work Karl!
Perjury on its own, I'm pretty sure you're right. But when your ask someone else to also commit perjury, I do think that might raise the stakes a little, particularly if there's also a money angle. I'm not that tuned into local and federal criminal law in the US but it seems to me that this comes rather close to conspiracy to commit fraud.
Neither am I into speedrunning, nor highscores etc.... But at this point it's kind of like watching a Telenovela, checking up on Billys new adventures. Those moments of: No he didn't, noooo he didn't... Oh my, he actually did.
Lmao at 10:33. He is clearly telling the person next to him to zip it and not talk. Its almost impressive how good he is at making himself look guilty.
im truly dumbfounded that he could do something so unbelievably stupid and then continue the lawsuit for almost another year now. simply not talking is one thing, but to lie and then make it EXPLICITLY CLEAR to EVERYONE WATCHING that you're lying is just... so... wtf. wt actual f. what was he thinking!?
His body language doesn't fit the words coming out of his mouth either. When he was asked if he had received any money from the sale, he says no, but he nods his head yes. That's telling.
I love Billy. He's a perfect example of so many flaws in the legal system. It could not be any clearer how much of a liar this man is and yet somehow he is still allowed to waste everyone's time and resources.
It's crazy. I've been catching up on the latest developments the last year via these videos and at this point I'm convinced Billys lawyers just keep this thing alive to milk him. Like they know he's going to lose but the longer this goes on the bigger the bill will be. They can't be THAT bad at their job unless it is on purpose. He just keeps on digging the hole deeper. At some point they must have told him to just shut up and not say stupid things but here we are.
I literally laughed out loud when Billy said he was just "playing the game" instead of helping with a test. It's like the meaning of basic words are completely fluid to Billy and are subject to change as it suits his narrative.
It's not "like that" it IS that. In Billy's world, he controls all and is never wrong, because his simpleton friends all believe him. Billy is finding out that the rest of the world isn't as dumb as the goofs that follow him. Lol. I mean, even after he loses this case, and others. He will simply say he didn't. And the 4 friends he has will believe him then too.
Not a billy supporter but... If a person is in a background of a photo i'm taking are they posing for the photo? If the tester didn't need billy specifically or for him to do anything then I would agree that billy didn't help with the testing.
On one hand, I'm sorry you got caught up in all this drama, on the other hand, it's made for amazing content and I always look forward to hearing how poorly Billy's case is going.
Billy has to regret doing the King of Kong documentary for sure lol. Brought soooo much attention to his glass house that it didn't take long for its cracked foundation to be pointed out. Hated this guy since that doc, couldn't have happened to a more deserving lying, power hungy, narcissist. And your work is AWESOME!! Love your channel and the greatness you provide!!
It's not the doc that did it. It's the litigation that he initiated. If he would have just left it alone, most people who watched the doc would still think he's a really good DK player and that's it. "Quit while you're ahead." is the moral of this story.
Imagine being Billy's Lawyer. Imagine having to explain to him that the more he talks about things, the worse the case gets. Imagine having explained to him in painful detail that "Sorry, I cannot comment on ongoing litigation." is a standard answer that everyone understands and it's fine for him to just say that. Imagine finally getting him to understand that. Finally, imagine seeing Billy going out there billying. Lying like it was a game of Donkey Kong. (He's the best at it.)
Assuming you don't take it too far it actually worked out amazing for him. I mean it was coming out that he was a fake anyway but he could have slunk into the shadows and lead a good life of ease. Instead he quadrupled down and stuck to his lie so the cameras would stay on him...he's a moral pos anyway but now he's a stupid moral pos.
He’s so caught up in this lie it’s consumed his whole life, plus the fact he dresses the exact same way he has for years is so weird almost like he’s clinging to his past and lies
I really admire how you're not being cowed by his threats. People NEED to stand up to bullies like this and yet rarely do, so it's very appreciated that you're bucking the trend and refusing to back down.
Billy uses the legal system as a weapon, knowing people can’t afford to defend them selves against even the most obvious cases. I hope netflix do a documentary on this once it’s over, the king of con: the fall of Billy Mitchell lol
7:57 You can see the classic nervous psychological nodding of the head "yes" while audibly saying "no". I've watched a lot of interrogation recordings and its often highlighted during psychoanalysis. Not surprised to see it here.
The thing is, I don't believe many people actually care about Billy's alleged records achieved decades ago. Whether he got them or not doesn't really matter at this point. The entertainment you get through Karl's coverage of a boring court case is nonetheless more than priceless!
No one cares. People watch speedrunning now. They care about seeing someone like Abney rip through a Kart 64 track record, not some old-timer set a golden era arcade high score lol. But he's a delusional loser who literally based his entire adulthood off of this lie. He loses everything with it all being exposed
Sure but the only thing he fears more than losing is being forgotten. The dude is pushing 60 and his life's greatest achievement is a Highscore in a video game, and a forged one at that. Without this he has nothing.
@AnonimatosTM You nailed it. He is desperately hanging on to his achievements that he had ( or lied about) during his teens. Billy being relegated to obscurity would probably be his idea of hell.
Yeah, I sort of lost track about how this even started before the previous video explained it in more detail§. Honestly, at this point we’re all more pissed off about the lawsuits, the lying, and this loser clinging to an ancient record for any scrap of fame and meaning than the cheating that set it off; it’s not the crime, it’s the coverup. § In a nutshell, arcade plays require a video and showing everything inside the machine is normal, while MAME records also require submitting an input file and some other stuff to show you used the right version and didn’t use cheats or savestates. Since the tapes of his records were allegedly on arcade but showed artifacts unique to MAME, he had to have disguised his MAME play, suggesting he was doing so to hide the usage of savestates and such.
Actually, the only real reason it's important is that these records got him a stake in the company, which allowed him to profit off of fraud. Disproving the records means that he committed fraud and stole money from the company. If it were just records, I don't think a court case would even be warranted. It's only because there's a lot of money involved.
He plays the "well technically..." game extremely well. I guarantee he's going to say that 33k didn't come from the sale of TG, because TECHNICALLY it came from a bank account owned by Walter Day. "I didn't help run tests. I played the game while tests were being ran."
I FINALLY saw Pixels yesterday and had heard that Peter Dinklage's character was loosely based on Mitchell (to the point that Mitchell actively promoted the movie as seen by the first image in this video). What I DIDN'T realize is that eventually it's shown that Dinklage's character was a cheater; it's literally his defining character flaw. Maybe the producers knew something Karl did as well.
Casting Peter Dinklage was a power move for that movie since IIRC in a court of law to claim that a character was defamatory and based on you, you have to also claim everything about the character. And I'm not sure that claiming you are a midget is on anyone's to do list.
I'm going trough some law-stuff myself, I can't begin to imagine the amount of stress a drawn out case like this gives you. I really hope this case will end very soon and, in the best case, makes him pay for all the attorney fees for the absolutely disgusting experience. Seeing what this guy's like there seems to be almost no chance he could, but you're almost done man! Almost there! You'll be able to live without stress again! Best wishes!
I'm not sure if that's that simple. Karl lives in Australia, if Billy loses and refuses to pay anything he could get away with, just never visiting Australia ever again. I'm not sure if he ever visited the country, but I know he called there and hired a lawyer.
It's not murder or anything like that, but an ex-family member trying to get an inheritance because a divorce apparently didn't go trough in the second country the individuals were married in. They have been divorced for over 30 years.
7:55 It's super common for people to mismatch their body language with the verbal lie that they're telling. Billy is shaking his head "yes" while saying "actually, no." Now I'm not a liarologist but, to me, it seems pretty obvious that he's lying.
I'd watch an analysis video on Mitchell's liar movements. Sounds incredible. I know he's gotta have some obvious tells. Maybe the snake tongue movements can be incorporated.
It's also super common for people to believe that body language is this intricate unconscious behavior that secretly tells you who is and isn't lying, even though multiple studies have failed to find that result. We know Billy is lying because the facts aren't on his side and he's had to fabricate evidence to support his claims. The "mismatched" body language adds absolutely no new information even if it's true.
The best thing about Billy getting caught out about his lie concerning game testing is that he is given an easy way out of the situation. He could have just said that the video reminded him of an incident he had forgotten, but he is such a narcissist that he doubles down and says his earlier testimony wasn't a lie. It's possibly the worst thing you can do when confronted with evidence that you committed perjury, because you can't walk it back by blaming it on poor memory.
Even worse was the "lips zipped" thing he did right after. He basically said he knows he f-d up but won't admit it aka zipped lips. Double down on the lie. Never admit.
@@J.C... my eyes damn near bugged out of my sockets when i saw that. did he not realize he was on camera!? you're in a deposition, WTF DO YOU MEAN YOUR LIPS ARE SEALED!!?? completely insane. i can't believe the lawsuit is still going on 8 months after THAT.
Has your attorney looked into having Billy legally designated as a "Vexatious Litigant", so that he might be barred from bringing more frivolous lawsuits and motions in the future ? Billy likely has other frivolous suits on record, regarding his failed business ventures, divorces, child support, etc.
@@AlKohaiMusic yeah, it isn't something a lawyer can ask for I don't think - it is a punishment a judge hands down for serious offenses. Usually reserved for litigants that go above and beyond in how horrible they act.
It's hilarious that Billy Mitchell started this spiral by trying to threaten Karl with a lawsuit - only to see more evidence against Billy that can potentially land him in hot water. I don't know what he expected, because he can't silence you.
Considering he tried to have that other RUclipsr give Karl strikes for the usage of that video without actually understanding current law or rulings on the matter... He clearly expected he could threaten Karl to silence. And we know how well that worked :)
This year was really bad for me. I had to sell my car, the bank is trying to take my home and I had an accident at work. All that gave me a series of panic attacks. Seeing Billy Mitchell going to jail is the only thing that puts a smile on my face.
Man I feel you. I'm also recovering from debt, also had to sell my car, I don't have a house but I can imagine your stress. If I can give you one advice is: build a timeline of your financial recovery, how much money you're making and spending each month and how much of your debt you'll be able to pay each month. Take this moment to examine and cut any cost you can without making you and your family miserable, be creative. Open your mind to making more money by working more, maybe two jobs or maybe start freelancing in something well paid that you have the skills to do. Make sure to inform all of your relevant friends and all of your relevant family about your financial situation, so they will not only understand but also maybe even help you make or save money. You're not alone in this, you got this.
These last tips are very personal and I don't know if they'll apply to you: 1) Do you have a dream? I didn't, but I found one and decided I'll reach it in a span of three years. It helps me to find meaning in all of the hard work and hardships. For me is that I will become the professional I always dreamed of being. I will do anything to reach it (that is except spending money at least for the next 9 months) and I will reach it. 2) If you're religious, get closer to God. That doesn't mean necessairly going more to church, it's more opening your heart to Him and understanding He loves you, He cares about you and He will be with you through the crisis if you invite Him.
I don’t care about Billy or his video game record, but I do love when liars and conmen get what’s coming to them. I especially love when people that were wronged can publicly prove that they are correct. Victory!!!!
As excited as I am for Karl because he sure as hell didn't deserve any of this, I cannot help but still feel awful for Apollo. I never would've imagined someone would've made such a big deal about a video game over 40 years ago and would go any length to embellish the truth and threaten to ruin others lives. It's a ****ing video game. Was it really worth it?
@@8Bitorbust It's so tragic. The lengths these barely human narcissists go to keep their delusions alive needs to be more recognised legally. They get away with way too much and cause the majority of the problems across all levels of society. They are predatory beings who plan and plot to make other people's lives a misery because they can't stand, no, can't even fathom ever being wrong.
10:15 Honestly, honestly, this might just be the most layman brain conclusion of all time. Out of all the stuff he's said, I wouldn't be surprised if he actually believes this one. He didn't "help" with the stuff being done inside the cab, he was just playing the game. Wild as it is, I can believe he believes it.
"Your honor, I did _not_ stab that person. They simply jumped into me several times in a row while I just happened to have my knife pointed out at above my head. Now if that just so happened to have "killed" that person, well, that's what _you_ think. We'll just have to agree to disagree here. Can I go now?"
I was thinking the same thing. I bet he believes a lot of the stuff he says, even when it's demonstrably false. Like, in this case, he didn't "help" with the tests, he was just playing the game and the tests were happening, and his unrelated actions just happened to help the tests, which he knew were happening, but he still was just playing a game. It takes some impressive mental gymnastics on his part to deny that equates to helping, but I think he believes it.
This statement is the one excerpt that is sort of true in his myriad of strange word-salad. Billy (presumably) did not design the test, he did not setup any equipment, and (probably) did not collect or analyze any data. He is just playing the game. Now, the fact that game being played is integral to the test makes it seem strange. But when an individual participates in, e.g., a clinical trial, they are a participant, but "help" doesn't really seem to convey what such an individual is doing. The problem is the lack of specificity of the word "help" in relation to a test. For an individual like Billy, I suspect he jumped on it because it helped with the narrative and was an attempt to recover from previous statements; it was just part of the ongoing dissembling. But from a legal perspective -- where parsing language can be extremely important (think of cases where the position of a comma has had significant impact on case) -- using the word "help" in this context was not precise. Another example, websites do A/B testing all the time. Is one "helping" them by selecting a particular link? One is browsing; the fact that data is being collected to refine some process is incidental to the behavior of the individual. While it is a funny trap around the word "test" and "help", and Billy's mangled use of "helping" was strange, I think there is a philosophy of science and linguistic argument that "help" was insufficiently precise in the question. From a lay perspective it is very humorous and frankly fits with the whole approach of Billy of saying one thing and then saying the opposite: "I'm not helping; but if it helps him, I'm happy to help."
I still love Billy's defense statement "I didn't see the videos(evidence)" so apparently if I ignore the evidence that exist everywhere then I guess I can get away with anything XD
I work alone and listen to stuff like this all day while I’m working. Finding Karl a few years ago talking about Todd Todgers was the greatest day ever.
"Billy has lied so much and so many times that it's going to take years for me to cover them all." I am in full support of this and will watch every second of it. Twice. At least.
The thing about liars, they don't remember their lies. The truth stays consistent and never changes. He's dug himself so deep that he is likely going to end up broke from paying all these lawyers and telling them different stories each time.
Honestly I don't know why but I'm hooked on this story. Billy's lies are so freaking wild. Like you showed videos contradicting himself and he keeps on going like nothing happened!
If there is one good thing that you can say about Billy and Walter, it's that they're terrific salesmen. The thing that they're selling is themselves. They built up Twin Galaxies and Billy's reputation for three decades. Unfortunately, they needed to lie and cheat to do so. So, they really shot themselves in the foot because everyone wants to watch the house of cards fall down on top of them. It's not just that someone cheated, it's that Billy Mitchell cheated.
Billy's legal team should be held accountable for lying to court as well. Lawyers are not allowed to lie. We need this precendent in order to prevent further abuse of the legal system. All the best to you, Karl, people like you are so important in these times of lies and betrayal - not just in terms of video games!
@@dansebastiansuhanea5189 they literally can't knowingly lie for their client though. It's literally against the rules of professional conduct and they will be disbarred. And it's literally against the law. Lawyers can be charged with perjury for lying to the court. It's amazing how little some people understand the law... 🤦
If Mitchell would invest as much effort into actually being what he pretends to be he WOULD be legitimately worthy of the awards and honors he pretends he is! 😂
I do think he is actually a really good Donkey Kong/Classic arcade game player. If he just owned up to it and put in the work I would have a lot of respect for the guy.
@@Gatorade69it's too late for him to become respectable for owning up to his error like a man--after all he's done he can never be trusted again Religiously, it's a different story--there is always mercy--but short of that religious conversion, and change of life, and reparations to everyone he has harmed... For nothing but selfish personal clout and greed... No, I don't agree he can regain respect by owning up (he's not owning up, he's admitting what everyone was forced to painstakingly prove through years of endless threats and legal harassment).
My favorite part is that he could have just said "lol believe what you want. I'm the King of mother fucking Kong" and let some people choose to believe and some people to think he cheated. Instead, he has, through all his own actions, removed all possible doubts and FORCED the truth to surface. There isn't a crazed person in the world that was obsessed enough with uncovering the truth that would have led to this amount of Truth being brought to light. Great job, Billy! You did it!
Whats disturbing is there are still a handful of people defending Billy and trying to make light of the situation. You can even find a few of their comments on this video if you look before they delete them all.
This guy is like a goldmine for a reporter like you lmao. You wake up and within 1 days he's lied enough to make another full episode. Love the content u make Karl thank you for your commitment to digging so deep into the subjects you discuss!!
If only there were journalists like you in the mainstream media holding the big ones just as accountable as you hold Billy, the world would be such a better place instantly.
Normally I'm the "F you, you corporate suit." Kinda person, And I have strong moral fiber. But recently I've been thinking "If I were someone on like say a board of directors, what type of person would people see me as?" Not defending people who abuse a position of power. I just realized it doesn't matter how you actually act when you're in that position people will assume (and proclaim) that you're a scumbag.
I gotta say, at 5:55, having these four people in the same shot is pretty remarkable. Four of some of the biggest organized gaming scamsters out there, all on stage at the same time, trying to legitimize themselves and each other.
@@Aladdindoescubes So Todd Rogers and Billy Mitchell on the left side, obviously. Walter Day, as the long time head of Twin Galaxies, obviously did a lot to further the image of those two as world-level gamers despite their fabrications (which you have to believe he knew about) and tried to profit from. And on the right, Isaiah "Triforce" Johnson (who is the more recent one in this conversation) was the founder of Empire Arcadia, one of the largest and most vaunted player orgs in the FGC, but which over time was found to have had manipulative relationships and exploitative contracts with his players, inhospitable living conditions for many of their players, all while trumping himself up as one of the most successful FGC organizers/player agents in the scene. There's also a history of him scamming money off of TOing events in Jamaica I believe. You can find a number of exposés on him here on YT.
I feel like, at this point, Billy's lying is some sort of underlying mental condition, one that keeps him from being unable to lie, even when it comes to things that he doesn't need to lie about. Like you ask him "Hey, Billy, how's your day been?" on a day where nothing has really happened to him, and he'll make up this convoluted story about how he slept on the street the night before, he got attacked by wild dogs, and that he got into a major car accident, all while there's clear evidence of none of that being the case
It feels more like he is incapable of comprehending the reality, and instead lives in some sort of a fantasy realm where he's the cool, suave protagonist. So it's not so much that he keeps lying, it's more like he's telling his own truth. But some of his behaviour also just seems like something a toddler would do, like when he did the zipper-gesture in front of his mouth. A four year old might see that done on TV and then imitate it because they think it looks cool. I don't know, would be interesting to hear what an actual trained professional thinks about him, rather than a bunch of baseless speculation form kitchen psychologists like myself.
Of all of the lies Billy Mitchell has been caught in, this is definitely one of them.
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Sure
Nah
Billy suffering real consequences would be a beautiful Christmas present for the world.
make a video on triforce ..
Because it's Silly Bitchell
What's wild is it's highly likely 90% of us would NEVER know about ANY of this if he hadn't sued you lmfao
Karl should be sued by billy for defamation. Billy is the world record holder. You guys need to cope with it.
Karl would have probably posted a video down the line once everything was out of the court, and then everyone of us would have pretty much just whatched it and forgotten the detais. It'hilarious that this whole saga is ultimately about an acient video game for children almost none particularly cares for.
bait used to be believable@@barakobama8194
have you just ignored every piece of evidence? You tiny brained human...@@barakobama8194
@@barakobama8194r u billy’s alt or smth
By far the saddest, most pathetic thing about the whole debacle is that this is Billy's ENTIRE LIFE. The rest of us only stop by a couple of times a month to laugh at him, but he's thinking about this every minute of every day. He has absolutely nothing else.
Not really he owns a chain of restaurants in south Florida and spends a lot of time there. Ironically all his restaurants have arcade machines like Pac-Man and donkey Kong
@TheMycrafters obviously that all doesn't matter to him with all the time, money and effort he has put into all of this.
in this case it would makesense as to why he is so protective of this record
if his businesses are themed around this one achievement he has a vested interest in keeping his public image and that involves the notion of being a record holder.@@TheMycrafters
@@TheMycraftersholy shit you couldnt be more misinformed lol. He owns no restaurants. He has a 1/16 share in one that he is banned from because his sister hates him.
@TheMycrafters so now that we know he DOESN'T own a xhain of restaurants, can you now agree that he literally has nothing else?
You know it’s serious when Karl doesn’t start with sarcasm about how amazing Billy’s skills are.
So good
You're not wrong
Facts
I mean, it's just stating the obvious.
How tf was this comment added 6 min before the video was posted 😑
The fact that Walter Day threw Billy under the bus at the first possible chance he got might just be the funniest part of this whole lawsuit.
Walter was pressured by the Jewish cabal and didn’t have a choice.
Day himself admitted he made everything up and said “ I will serve Billy’s incarceration. If not allowed I will live stream my death. I’m trash I’m junk “. Walter went on to say
I mean why add perjury on the pile
Billy is so used to cheating that he forgot that cheating in a lawsuit has consequences
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George Costanza: "It's not a lie if *YOU* believe it".😂
underrated comment
@@tomvu1470
Ahaha!!!
The saddest part is that none of this needed to happen. Billy already got his fame, his money and celebrity from the fake records. Getting banned and exposed for cheating was a blow, but it wasn't the end of the world. He could have just lied and retired from public, getting away with all the lies and crime. But no, his ego couldn't take it and he just had to go and try to ruin innocent people's lives. He just had to commit multiple actual crimes in the process. Now it's too late....
I said it last night, on another video. But he’s formed a cult of personality around himself, and he can’t let that crumble. He’s doing everything in his power to maintain it, despite the fact that the general public has already turned against him.
He clearly doesn't want to be reduced to a "mere" (to him) hot sauce vendor.
Also he needs to cut his hair. It looks like he’s had that hair style since he created the fake records
@@benmarles5879 His hair says everything about him. He thinks he looks good. Anyone not friends with him, immediately laughs a bit when they see him. It's really no more complicated than narcissism. But dang it is funny to see him in public looking like he does, and seeing his sneer as he actually believes he is hot stuff. Lol.
Now it's too late
Is it? Can Billy at this point try to wriggle out of this? Can he avoid punishment if he agrees to drop lawsuits and admits he cheated?
How this man hadn't got himself into serious trouble up to this point for lying under oath is beyond me.
because
America, money, aaaand, yup.... money
Money
'Murica. The most corrupt place on Earth. 😅
@@MezzoForte4
Russia says hello. As does North Korea.
same with snort hogan aka dsp.. dsp went bankrupt traveling to streetfighter arcade game tournaments, now is a beggar who streams... he lied about his own bankruptcy and its all documented... and yet they allow him to stream and panhandle every day, while cursing people out and demanding tips....
The way he said "no youre wrong" with such confidence to the lawyer is astounding!
he's good at lying with his chest puffed out. the only problem is... he's a terrible liar
That's what liars do.
It's amazing the level of confidence of being a such a liar!! Blows my mind
Perhaps delusional is better word at this point.
He’s like if bob lazar didn’t successfully hide in obscurity therefore managing to get away with excessive lying.
seeing Karl slowly get more and more confident to call billy a liar and cheater is such a fun thing to watch
its extra funny when the video is not that serious and he calls him Silly Bitchell
RIP ApolloLegend
@@jankepanke5868What?
@@jankepanke5868 wake up, your bed sheets are full of diarrhea
I had the same thought. The way he opened this video so blatantly labeling him as such brought a smile to my face.
Billy is such a beautiful specimen of a TV villain. If someone wrote a character like Billy people would say it's to cliche to be believable.
He's like an 80s movie villain for a movie about Wallstreet. He just needs lots of cocaine.
@@0tt0zFck I love cocaine !
Regular Show already did with Garrett Bobby Ferguson.
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And then Billy would sue the studio for defamation! 🤣
You may even call him a cartoon villain. He has the haircut and everything.
If Billy ends up with actual jailtime over a Donkey Kong high score, even the other white-collar finance criminals are gonna bully him.
It will also fufill Pixels as Billy Mitchell's character in that movie also went to jail.
@@nolife6013i remember
"what did you get in here for"
'defrauding the government for $90 billion dollars'
"what did he get in here for"
'he lied so much about Donkey Kong he went to prison'
"Lmfao"
'lmfao'
Likely not! All white-collar criminals are pretty much MAGAts!!
@@shinybreloom4027 He'd definitely be the prime target for beatings and labeled as a punk in prison I mean this man is nearly 60 years old.
Woah, leave it to Billy to be so woven in lies that even within the same breath they're be contradicted by themselves. That's something special right there. Thank you for putting out this information.
I love the everything Billy does directly financially supports the guy he's suing. He literally is funding Karl's legal team by being himself. Also the audacity of "Yeah I helped him do tests, but no I didn't help him with testing."
with that one i can kinda see billy's point though. if he's just playing and the guy starts doing tests its not really the same thing as the guy asking billy to help him do some tests, and then they start doing tests together.
@@strills1234I imagine courts don't appreciate mental gymnastics lol
I upvoted your comment, but no, I didn't upvote your comment.
@@strills1234 that's literally helping him do tests though.... if Billy wasn't playing, he can't do the tests...
@@strills1234 in a stupid semantic kind of way, I guess. but I can't imagine that kind of smartassery really flies in court
This wasn't the final nail in the coffin. This was the incineration. My older sister is a lawyer. She said that even in a deposition, lying is considered perjury because you're still under oath. Just based on that, I think that Billy is going to prison. When the judge decides his punishment, I'm going to cheer.
I highly doubt he's going to go to prison. It's a civil lawsuit. Sure lying in a deposition can land you in jail. But going to prison. Doubt it. He's probably going to lose a lot of money and broke.
people RARELY go to jail over prejury. People lie on the stand, right infront of the judge, and nothing happens all the time. He will be in more trouble for faking evidence. Hes probably not gonna go to jail, probably wont pay his legal fees for the first year or two after he loses, and then finally after being threatened with more sanctions and jail time, Billy will pay the fines and fees. Billy will likely wait as long as humanly possible to give them their money.
i heard during the depp vs amber case that you rarely go to prison for that tho? like it's usually impossible to 'truly' prove or something idk
@@FullAltOsuYup, it's too easy to just claim that you forgot or you're just stupid, and the court can't really prove otherwise, so they rarely ever punish perjury beyond monetary sanctions.
He’s already broke, that is why he will go to prison, to work the debt off.
I love that you said "it's going to take me years" rather than "it WOULD take me years" to cover all his lies 😅
Bro knows where his content is coming from and plans accordingly... and I, for one, plan to watch every one of those future videos!
Billy's a complete clown.
The entire situation with Billy Mitchell is the biggest case of Streisand Effect I've seen in recent years.
The more Billy tries to hide and lie about this whole court case with Twin Galaxies to keep it away from the public, the more people end up finding out about this situation in the first place. He literally does the opposite of what his intentions are.
It's like when some county governments tried to ban Two Live Crew - they got uber popular after that. The complete opposite of their intention.
@@paulcocacolaSucks, because in that case, that’s actually stuff that should’ve been kept hidden from the public.
@@Brother_Piner controversial people and subjects will never, ever stay hidden. It's in their nature to be exposed.
Karma is real! May not be today, maybe not tomorrow, but it'll wait till it really hurts than BAM!
As someone born in 1997 my only exposure and knowledge is him being a cheater. And I feel like for younger generations that's only going to be more.
Hey Karl, would you consider organizing all your Billy-related content into its own playlist so that the entire saga can easily be followed from start to finish?
What's your pfp
@@iplyrunescape305 Noah from Xenoblade Chronicles 3.
It would be so great if once this all ends, someone (hopefully Karl) will make a whole mini documentary about it, seems only fitting for the "king of Kong"
Hey that's a good idea
@@lordmortimer8055 "Kong of Liars" would be a fitting name.
"...Billy has lied so much and so many times that it's going to take years for me to cover them all..."
Good guy Billy providing job security :)
Watching someone opening ruin their life is just so facinating
The strange thing about compulsive liars is that they're compelled to lie even when telling the truth benefits them more. It's really weird to watch them dig their own grave for literally no reason - but somehow they also happen to be the types of people who manage to lie so much they obfuscate the actual reality of the scenario.
His entire persona and reputation is so dependent on lies that letting the truth slip even once might cause the whole thing to unravel, so at this point he lies just to be safe.
ofc if he had any self-awareness or humility he'd realize his reputation is already that of a lolcow
Not sure I'd classify Billy Mitchell as a compulsive liar in the classic sense. He has no life or future outside being famous for Pac-Man and Donkey Kong. If you took it away, he would have nothing and be nothing. Of course, he'd stop at nothing, including spinning a massive web of lies to protect it. A lot of people would do the same thing, and that should be the scarier part.
I always think about that tommy tallarico guy. dude was a legit pioneer in the video game industry but couldnt help inflating his achievements over the decades until they were simply unbelievable.
billy mitchell isn't a compulsive liar, he is a sociopath. his lies are deliberate and intentional, but he is also very stupid and often makes choices that are mean to assuage his ego that end up deepening his real-world problems. but since he is a sociopath his own ego is more important than anything real.
Billy has been living this for 40-plus years at this point he doesn't even know the difference
Calling Billy a con artist is an insult to *actual* con artists. True matchstick men wouldn't be caught dead in a scandal like this. All Billy does is insist that his lies aren't lies, a (great) con artist weaves their sticky little tendtrils and schemes through things without being noticed or caught until it's too late to do anything about it. :P
To be fair he did that too but he didn't try hard enough clearly showing he is pretty trash at tricking people
He did all of that, he was just too dumb to move on and wants the fame he doesnt deserve.
like bro don't you have kids or something
@araedin How do you know matchstick men wouldn’t be caught in things like this?
The issue imo is that he tried to milk as much as possible but ended biting more than he could chew
Honestly, he needs dealt with. He is using the justice system to bully people who will not believe his lies.
I guess that John wick really had a rough time after the fourth movie
@FrostandHikari yeah you right mb
@@MissedabeatsI always like to think of Billy as that episode of Regular Show he was featured in as the Giant floating head. Perfect representation
@@Gerald-of-Riviera the most accurate irl to cartoon episode in history
@@MissedabeatsThis new Alan Wake game isn't looking too good.
It’s so nice of Billy to provide Karl with all of this content to help him get 1M subscribers!
yes KARL is jealous leech. he slander public sucessful persons to get 5 more kangero dolar in ad revenueue. karl is mad bcuz he will loss in court against bily, famous player, business man and world record hollder
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Clearly he felt bad about suing Karl, and decided to give him a few hours of free content to help pay for the legal fees.
some sacrifices are required for greatness
Imagine not only being part of the scam, imagine having to spend every waking moment in a knock-off referee's shirt everytime you're on camera.
Are you being self-referential?
@@SeptemberChild1835no, he is talking about the alcoholic in the referee shirt who begs and stands with billy to push the snakeoil he sells
@@SeptemberChild1835like i said above.. 8:04 the retired poor fellow who billy pays his parents money to, so they can play pretend
I can't help but to laugh every time I see that silly shirt
@@dertythegrower That be WACK!
It's insane that I'm STILL hearing about Billy so many years later.
Billy Mitchell is wonderful.
He was so extremely generous in giving me regular Karl Jobst content.
Imagine how much less fun we'd all have in our lives if there was no Billy Mitchell in it. >
Craziest thing about this whole saga is that if Billy put even half as much effort into the actual video game playing he might have actually achieved the things he claims he has.
The funny part is, he is very well able to achieve these things.
yup. it's a shame. he is genuinely great at the game.. but he decided to cheat to speed up the time to get where he could have naturally been im another year.
Nicely done Karl. Just remember you stated years ago that your channel is not primarily controversy; don’t let Billy push you to be the angry man he is and wants you to appear to be. I’d love more speedrun content again, keep us in the loop, just don’t lose sight of a clean victory.
Im doing Billy vids to help fund my lawsuit atm
@@karljobst I'm happy to watch as many Billy videos as it takes. 😁
@@karljobstkeep pumping main man 👍
@@karljobstWouldn't say that. Maybe could be used against you, he could say you're doing this for the money...somewhat.
@@karljobst So in a weird sort of way, Billy's orchestrated and funded his own downfall? It's just a tragedy that you've had to go through all this shit.
Great work for continuing to expose this liar
You gave €10 and he didn't even reply to you
@@TheSteelcrynot a problem for me as I wasn't expecting a reply. I'm sure he's got enough on his plate fighting the bullshit lawsuits and making great content.
@@TheSteelcry People don't do good things just for acknowledgment and praise. They do them because the world's simply a better place when we do good things for each other. That's something you might want to consider in future, because comments like this make you look like a very small and bitter person.
@@TheSteelcry You should never donate or send money to content creators/public figures with an expectation that they’ll acknowledge you. I’ve always had this ideal that if I ever start a serious RUclips channel, I would respond to every comment and interact with my subscribers, but it’s extremely unrealistic. I mean… there’s 5.6k comments here. lol
@@TheSteelcry 🎻
I swear, we're a couple months away from Billy running for President to try to escape these charges.
It's the lamestream media trying to take him down!
@@SpectrescupThis must be one of Billy’s alts
What are you talking about? Billy is already the President. He has a plaque declaring him President of the Century.
You mean he's not already the president? Then how do you explain his tie?
@@rootyshoot, you have a point
I know some people are getting tired of it, but frankly? After the _years upon years_ of nightmarish shit that Billy has put people through? Karl deserves to post as much Billy Mitchell content as he wants.
Hopefully, we will never hear about him again after the lawsuits are over. So I say, get as much content out of this situation now.
Billy said it himself: "We've been at this since 1982."
True
I'm not, I brought popcorn
People getting tired of it are bots paid for by Billy. No ones getting tired of seeing this scumbag get reamed lol
It's oddly really encouraging to see you sticking to your guns on this. It's just good to see that there are people out there that can and will fight to see karmic justice served. God bless speedrunners, you all have way more patience than I ever did.
KARL video is full of lie after lie. remember he is biased bcuz billi is sueing him (rightfuly) for slander so dont trust KARL. he is jealous of billi being documentary star and rich from famous sauce. BILLY is legend and businessman, Karl seem to pretend to want to be digital crocodile hunter. its all he will ever be. too bad he has to slander big billy to get view and income.
never trust KARL he hate when other sucess
Funny how at 7:55 Billy gives all the textbook examples of lying: looking to his upper right, licking his lips and nodding while saying "no" lol.
Dude, I can’t wait to see the end of this saga. Karl, you have inspired so many people to stand up for themselves. I’m also grateful that so many people have supported you in this.
You and everyone else! These videos are entertaining but I really want all avenues through which Bully Mitchell can do harm to be neutralized.
Billy held the world record. How is that hard for you to see? Karl is being a bully. Billy Mitchell is the king of Kong cope harder
@@barakobama8194 You call this bait? This? The only thing "Billy" is king of is crying himself to sleep.
"wahhh wahhh wahhh my hero is a conman and i cant cope"@@barakobama8194
@@KomboEzaliTe they could be legit, but at that point they’d have to be sidestepping a mountain of evidence that spells out “BILLY IS A FRAUD” in letters so massive they can be read from space.
Lying under oath feels so unpunished nowadays. Can’t believe there’s literally no additional charges for him. I guess you can lie all you want directly at lawyers and judges faces and make the entire judicial system a joke as long as you’re just gonna lose the case anyways.
This is a civil case afaik, not a criminal case. Whether or not he is prosecuted for lying under oath has literally nothing to do with this case itself.
@@fma0420 Well, the sums that Billy told Karl to pay would technically come under extortion, which is a criminal offense.
What lying under oath does is you losing the trust of the community. Can't speak of Billy's situation, wouldn't know exactly, but that is a much harsher punishment than getting put in a box for a while
It does seem awfully common and I'm not sure at what point perjury becomes an actionable crime. Be nice if people were fined for lying about news etc of course Faux "News" wouldn't be able to function...actually that would be a great thing.
American oath is unstable to a point of it’s not longer a surprise there’s bunch of rioting and looting
It's a simple case of a man from an older generation not understanding that thanks to the internet he can't lie as easily as he could back in his day. There's some weird stuff going on in his small circle of friends, and that house of cards is about to fall.
It's all a giant boomer circle jerk. Lies and deceit were the way you got ahead and it was easy to do.
"It's a simple case of a man from an older generation not understanding that thanks to the internet he can't lie as easily as he could back in his day" - You clearly are not from the U.S., where there are tens of millions of people who rabidly support someone who lies even more than Billy does, and that con man's lies are much more impactful than Billy's. There are also tons of people of all ages, from all over the world, who support and believe Elon Musk, who loves to lie and spread conspiracy theories, regardless of how easy they are to debunk. So, as much as I hate to say it, it's just as easy to lie today as it was 40 years ago. In fact, I would say that it's actually easier to lie today because so many people actively reject reality now and it's easier today than in bygone years to find an echo chamber to reinforce what you already want to believe.
Good take!
Good take. A mere 100 years ago there were probably thousands of Billy Mitchells in the world who got away with it with ease
horrible take, cheaters got CAUGHT back then, now they lie with photoshopping and that shit, not saying its happening in this case at all but it does happen
Hearing Billy lie so confidentially about evidence right in front of his eyes is like a fever dream.
From Guicciardini's "Ricordi" - "Deny, deny, deny. Even if you were caught and the evidence is right in front of you, persistent denial will at least cause some doubt." lol
@@jacobpeters5458 There is truth to this. Constant and self assured denying does lead to some people to question.
The funniest part of this whole history is that if Billy had just kept his mouth shut, literally nothing would be happening.
He did what people like him always do: attack perceived easy prey and think that the shear intimidation will shut the truth up for them to then steam roll over on their way in life.
But justice, truth, and reality didn't bend to Bitchells will this time.
@@ikmor Narcissists attack when their facade is questioned. I'm not sure it has anything to do with the prey being easy.
@@Vykk_DraygoIn the case of Billy Mitchell, he absolutely likes to attack people that he perceives as being weak. Plenty of other people have criticized and talked badly about his character but he doesn’t sue them because they’re rich and have resources at their disposal (like Adam Sandler, who made an entire movie satirizing Billy Mitchell, and Notch the creator of Minecraft, who has spoken badly of Mitchell and has donated to Karl’s GoFund).
Billy goes after people he thinks will back down with petty threats. He just didn’t think Karl would fight back and have his whole community supporting him. Guy’s a bully and a coward.
As someone who has dealt with abusive family members who lie and thoughtlessly harm others, then play the victim when they're held accountable, thank you so much for being so unrelenting, Karl. Goddamn, I wish more people were like you.
Glad someone else has made this comparison. He lies so effortlessly and is clearly doing so to gain a position of power over people, I'd hate to ever work near him/be related to him because it really speaks to his character (also grew up with abusive family so I'm glad you're okay)
Exactly.
Im sorry you’ve had to deal with that, i really hope you’re doing well now
That’s horrible bro, sorry to hear that!
a person really close to me acts the same way
it's so freaking draining deal with people like that
Listening to Billy is like listening to a teenager. His lies about testing were probably the most damning. It’s ridiculous.
It’s like saying, “Billy. Did you transport people somewhere?”
Billy: “No. I just drove the car.”
"If other people are inside the car, I'm happy to transport them"
@@MatNightmare"I'm also the driver of the century."
@@Tenchigumi lmfao
What do you expect from a low IQ loser who did nothing but play Donkey Kong his whole life? Just shows his mental and emotional maturity is that of a 12 year old (and I'm being generous there)
Seriously. Even if he wanted to lie about the testing, when shown the video you just say that you forgot about that time. If it was a one off thing with a small comment that happened while playing the game, most people would understand that you might not have been paying close attention and forgot about it later. Even if that's a lie too, no one can prove what you do or don't remember. Instead he feels compelled to blatantly lie which is only going to make people think that he's trying to intentionally hide stuff.
"If you tell the truth, you don't need a good memory." - Judge Judy
At this point, you really have to appreciate Billy for providing contents and generating revenue for his enemy lmao
LOL
💀
Except the one he killed.
what a kind man
"Never pick a fight with someone who buys ink by the barrel".
The funniest thing about this saga to me is that it’s obvious these videos have been sitting on the back burner for weeks but jobst was FINALLY legally cleared to post them all which shows billy Mitchell doesn’t stand a single chance. Video after video daily recently have been killing it and I support.
Its honestly really fucked up that liars like Billy can just sue people exposing their scummy behavior into oblivion, if it weren't for Karl's incredibly kind & based community helping cover the legal fees he would have been stuck with multiple hundreds of thousands of dollars that he would have had to somehow come up with (to my understanding at least, please correct me if I'm wrong here)
That being said, it makes me so happy being able to witness Billy's descent into his inevitable downfall, getting closer with every video Karl releases.
He really did fuck around and find out
They can't lie forever, especially if the game devs get involved to stamp out cheating in any community but yes it is fucked up and anyone who suffers this should get reimbursed for ALL legal fees (by the person suing them ideally)
He also literally drove a man to sewer side.
If karma exists, he'll spend time in prison, he'll lose all his assets, and he'll be branded a fraud for life. Anything less than that means there is no true karmic justice.
@@eddierussetthere isn't, sadly, which is why we have to make sure he sees punishment for this
@@eddierusset he is already branded fraud for life by anyone who gives a shit - but, he already was. they were dumb enough to act like shitheads on a documentary, they clearly showed that twin galaxies was not a fair esports platform when day and billy ran it. this cost them untold millions of money and shows how incompetent they were and that was just right at the time when esports was picking up more speed from just cs tournaments and stuff like that.
it's a market if they weren't incompetent frauds they could have made a lot of money from, they were there on day 1 but people just passed them as an option because they were dumb f***s.
think about it, day was in a position where he could have been karl, the dad of the community. if billy wasn't obsessed with getting an another forever record he wouldn't have needed to cheat, if he had just approached it with sportsmanship he could have been the grand old man and could have done actual pr for esports. instead he chose to be an asshat and couldn't even understand the game enough so that even his cheated records got beaten without cheating.
It brings me great joy seeing these videos every 1-2 weeks. Please keep this up as long as you can.
If Billy would lie over something so frivolous, I couldn't imagine what he would do for profit.
He would lie about farting in an elevator, claiming it was the other guy who did it.
he thought he did it for profit originally.
@@lasskinn474 I commented this before seeing that part.
Let's all remind ourself that everything that has happened after the initial expose inn 2018 would have been avoided if Billy did the sensible thing and just fell back into obscurity. Billy 100% brought whatever outcome comes out of this upon himself.
Two Billy videos in a week? Karl you treat us too well
I came here to say exactly this 👍
@MartinWimpress same! Karl is a Legend
Karl is jealous of Billy's success. Billy is the king of Kong. He held the world record. Cope harder
@@barakobama8194 *Points at and laughs*
@@barakobama8194 I'm only jealous of Billy's luscious hair and Athenian physique
I know you said it would takes years for you to cover all his lies, but please do it 😂 I want to see how much backtracking and story changing he's actually done since his "world record", and your coverage and explanations of it all are the best I've seen
How do these lawyers not bust out laughing? After showing evidence, than hearing him lie after seeing this evidence, I would not be able to hold it in. I would laugh so hard.
I wonder how the lawyer is so patient.
"Did you do X?" "No" "Here is video of you doing X that you said you didn't do. Did you do X?" "Well yes, but I would have done it either way." "So you lied about saying you didn't do X?" "No"
At that point, the whole trial should be thrown out and him slapped for Prudery not even 2 minutes after the given statement. I am surprised people don't get thrown for that more often.
Who says they aren’t laughing
@@liam6170I think they maybe meant during the court case🤣I would be laughing too probably not very professional in front of a judge😂
i wonder if his own attorney laughs behind his back
@@ericsbuds 😂😂😂
I'm an attorney and this whole saga has been amazing. Yes, litigation is (sometimes) this exciting.
This deserves an Ace Attorney edit Animatic
Heck, a playable version even, B side and K side.
(Playing the losing side and trying to win or draw can be fun)
XD
its hard to litigate when you are presented with all of these road blocks in your search for truth
It must be terribly frustrating to be an attorney of cases like this in the moment, but hindsight makes it so entertaining. This Billy Mitchell case is absurd enough to be on like, Law & Order. Eventually, after he’s been pummeled into the dirt, I can already see his lawyer strolling up looking to settle after all of his bullshit
The truth is.........I am the kANg OF kOnG!! 😳😵💫
As an american with a passing (IANAL) understanding of the state of the law, perjury in the US is rarely prosecuted, and jail time is employed even less. So while it could land billy in jail, it’s more likely to just cost him more on damages. Just to keep expectations managed.
Great work Karl!
**snicker** 🤭🤭🤭anal..
Hahaha, you said ANAL.
Perjury on its own, I'm pretty sure you're right. But when your ask someone else to also commit perjury, I do think that might raise the stakes a little, particularly if there's also a money angle. I'm not that tuned into local and federal criminal law in the US but it seems to me that this comes rather close to conspiracy to commit fraud.
non-american here, what do you mean by "anal understanding of the state of the law"?
ianal = i am not a lawyer. also works for other professions, such as d=doctor @@maiselph7456
Neither am I into speedrunning, nor highscores etc.... But at this point it's kind of like watching a Telenovela, checking up on Billys new adventures. Those moments of: No he didn't, noooo he didn't... Oh my, he actually did.
Lmao at 10:33. He is clearly telling the person next to him to zip it and not talk. Its almost impressive how good he is at making himself look guilty.
He slumps over and scowls like Mr Burns right after. He is a cartoon.
It looks like he is telling his lawyer that he pleads the 5th, but yeah it certainly makes him look guilty 😮.
im truly dumbfounded that he could do something so unbelievably stupid and then continue the lawsuit for almost another year now. simply not talking is one thing, but to lie and then make it EXPLICITLY CLEAR to EVERYONE WATCHING that you're lying is just... so... wtf. wt actual f. what was he thinking!?
His lawyer was the one scolding him for talking too much and this was him reacting with "OK, I'm going to shut up now"
His body language doesn't fit the words coming out of his mouth either. When he was asked if he had received any money from the sale, he says no, but he nods his head yes. That's telling.
I honestly think he believes himself at this point
Lying about being director of the HOF something so easily fact checked is insane
Bro! 🤣😂🤣😂
Always here for him. He should get world record for longest running con in gaming.
there is a worser person who begs and went bankrupt pretending to be top us player in streetfighter.. he streams still and begs (Snort Hogan)
Second gear vibes, right here.
I love Billy. He's a perfect example of so many flaws in the legal system. It could not be any clearer how much of a liar this man is and yet somehow he is still allowed to waste everyone's time and resources.
It's crazy. I've been catching up on the latest developments the last year via these videos and at this point I'm convinced Billys lawyers just keep this thing alive to milk him. Like they know he's going to lose but the longer this goes on the bigger the bill will be. They can't be THAT bad at their job unless it is on purpose. He just keeps on digging the hole deeper. At some point they must have told him to just shut up and not say stupid things but here we are.
I literally laughed out loud when Billy said he was just "playing the game" instead of helping with a test. It's like the meaning of basic words are completely fluid to Billy and are subject to change as it suits his narrative.
It's not "like that" it IS that. In Billy's world, he controls all and is never wrong, because his simpleton friends all believe him. Billy is finding out that the rest of the world isn't as dumb as the goofs that follow him. Lol. I mean, even after he loses this case, and others. He will simply say he didn't. And the 4 friends he has will believe him then too.
Not a billy supporter but... If a person is in a background of a photo i'm taking are they posing for the photo? If the tester didn't need billy specifically or for him to do anything then I would agree that billy didn't help with the testing.
"I sees a Donkey Kong, I plays a Donkey Kong."
On one hand, I'm sorry you got caught up in all this drama, on the other hand, it's made for amazing content and I always look forward to hearing how poorly Billy's case is going.
Billy is innocent and has proven he’s the greatest player of all time, karl is a liar! /s
@@heart_of_a_daedra3649 lol you almost got me there!
Real, seeing this guy try to cling on to his past is quite hilarious.
Billy has to regret doing the King of Kong documentary for sure lol. Brought soooo much attention to his glass house that it didn't take long for its cracked foundation to be pointed out. Hated this guy since that doc, couldn't have happened to a more deserving lying, power hungy, narcissist. And your work is AWESOME!! Love your channel and the greatness you provide!!
It's not the doc that did it. It's the litigation that he initiated. If he would have just left it alone, most people who watched the doc would still think he's a really good DK player and that's it. "Quit while you're ahead." is the moral of this story.
agreed
Imagine being Billy's Lawyer.
Imagine having to explain to him that the more he talks about things, the worse the case gets.
Imagine having explained to him in painful detail that "Sorry, I cannot comment on ongoing litigation." is a standard answer that everyone understands and it's fine for him to just say that.
Imagine finally getting him to understand that.
Finally, imagine seeing Billy going out there billying. Lying like it was a game of Donkey Kong. (He's the best at it.)
To anyone who is ever thinking about faking video game high scores just remember that Karl Jobst exists
An absolute legend
Assuming you don't take it too far it actually worked out amazing for him.
I mean it was coming out that he was a fake anyway but he could have slunk into the shadows and lead a good life of ease.
Instead he quadrupled down and stuck to his lie so the cameras would stay on him...he's a moral pos anyway but now he's a stupid moral pos.
He’s so caught up in this lie it’s consumed his whole life, plus the fact he dresses the exact same way he has for years is so weird almost like he’s clinging to his past and lies
u meen karl jobst? yes, i agree
@@jankepanke5868Imagine dickriding for Billy Mitchell
@@jankepanke5868Billy? Is that you?
And just look at his face... the fact that he knows he is in trouble since a long time is definitly marked onto his face!
Nah. The real Billy would be too stupid and arrogant not to name his burner account after himself.@@SmoothCriminal12
I really admire how you're not being cowed by his threats. People NEED to stand up to bullies like this and yet rarely do, so it's very appreciated that you're bucking the trend and refusing to back down.
Bro!! 😃😃
@@SeptemberChild1835 Huh?
Billy uses the legal system as a weapon, knowing people can’t afford to defend them selves against even the most obvious cases.
I hope netflix do a documentary on this once it’s over, the king of con: the fall of Billy Mitchell lol
@@cruddi4398 I hope they don't, because at this point it seems Billy cares more about the attention this gives him than the actual score itself.
@@eddiemate plus he’d likely be able to profit from it some how.
7:57 You can see the classic nervous psychological nodding of the head "yes" while audibly saying "no". I've watched a lot of interrogation recordings and its often highlighted during psychoanalysis. Not surprised to see it here.
The thing is, I don't believe many people actually care about Billy's alleged records achieved decades ago. Whether he got them or not doesn't really matter at this point. The entertainment you get through Karl's coverage of a boring court case is nonetheless more than priceless!
No one cares. People watch speedrunning now. They care about seeing someone like Abney rip through a Kart 64 track record, not some old-timer set a golden era arcade high score lol. But he's a delusional loser who literally based his entire adulthood off of this lie. He loses everything with it all being exposed
Sure but the only thing he fears more than losing is being forgotten. The dude is pushing 60 and his life's greatest achievement is a Highscore in a video game, and a forged one at that. Without this he has nothing.
@AnonimatosTM You nailed it. He is desperately hanging on to his achievements that he had ( or lied about) during his teens. Billy being relegated to obscurity would probably be his idea of hell.
Yeah, I sort of lost track about how this even started before the previous video explained it in more detail§. Honestly, at this point we’re all more pissed off about the lawsuits, the lying, and this loser clinging to an ancient record for any scrap of fame and meaning than the cheating that set it off; it’s not the crime, it’s the coverup.
§ In a nutshell, arcade plays require a video and showing everything inside the machine is normal, while MAME records also require submitting an input file and some other stuff to show you used the right version and didn’t use cheats or savestates. Since the tapes of his records were allegedly on arcade but showed artifacts unique to MAME, he had to have disguised his MAME play, suggesting he was doing so to hide the usage of savestates and such.
Actually, the only real reason it's important is that these records got him a stake in the company, which allowed him to profit off of fraud. Disproving the records means that he committed fraud and stole money from the company. If it were just records, I don't think a court case would even be warranted. It's only because there's a lot of money involved.
He plays the "well technically..." game extremely well. I guarantee he's going to say that 33k didn't come from the sale of TG, because TECHNICALLY it came from a bank account owned by Walter Day.
"I didn't help run tests. I played the game while tests were being ran."
I didn't kill that person, I just pulled the trigger on my gun and the bullet that came out went in his direction.
I FINALLY saw Pixels yesterday and had heard that Peter Dinklage's character was loosely based on Mitchell (to the point that Mitchell actively promoted the movie as seen by the first image in this video). What I DIDN'T realize is that eventually it's shown that Dinklage's character was a cheater; it's literally his defining character flaw. Maybe the producers knew something Karl did as well.
Deep lore
Okay but... Was the movie good?
Casting Peter Dinklage was a power move for that movie since IIRC in a court of law to claim that a character was defamatory and based on you, you have to also claim everything about the character. And I'm not sure that claiming you are a midget is on anyone's to do list.
@@Tottosmileno
@@Tottosmile Worth watching once I would say.
I became aware of this whole situation a few years ago and it's INSANE that a video game high score is what has lead to all of this!
I'm going trough some law-stuff myself, I can't begin to imagine the amount of stress a drawn out case like this gives you. I really hope this case will end very soon and, in the best case, makes him pay for all the attorney fees for the absolutely disgusting experience. Seeing what this guy's like there seems to be almost no chance he could, but you're almost done man! Almost there! You'll be able to live without stress again! Best wishes!
@@BreakfastKidsLaw-stuff could be a lawsuit. Could be a murder charge. You need to learn to ask for more information. Lol
I'm not sure if that's that simple. Karl lives in Australia, if Billy loses and refuses to pay anything he could get away with, just never visiting Australia ever again. I'm not sure if he ever visited the country, but I know he called there and hired a lawyer.
@@levilandes1719I mean, I'd want a bit more info, but I would still potentially donate to a murder charge defense.
@@Hawk7886 I would too but only for murder charges like Gypsy Rose.
It's not murder or anything like that, but an ex-family member trying to get an inheritance because a divorce apparently didn't go trough in the second country the individuals were married in. They have been divorced for over 30 years.
7:55 It's super common for people to mismatch their body language with the verbal lie that they're telling. Billy is shaking his head "yes" while saying "actually, no." Now I'm not a liarologist but, to me, it seems pretty obvious that he's lying.
Liarologist lol
I'd watch an analysis video on Mitchell's liar movements. Sounds incredible. I know he's gotta have some obvious tells. Maybe the snake tongue movements can be incorporated.
It's also super common for people to believe that body language is this intricate unconscious behavior that secretly tells you who is and isn't lying, even though multiple studies have failed to find that result.
We know Billy is lying because the facts aren't on his side and he's had to fabricate evidence to support his claims. The "mismatched" body language adds absolutely no new information even if it's true.
In some cultures *nodding* your head does mean "no", though.
@FrenkTheJoy I'm assuming you're just sharing for funsies but I'm pretty sure he isn't apart of those groups
I love that Billy and his lawyer are definitely subscribed to your channel, to make sure they see all your videos.
The irony is just too much 😂
Billy's lawyer is subscribed so when he's off working hours he can relax and have a good laugh at how Billy is fucked
I'm reminded of something Ron White once said "It was at that point I had the right to remain silent...but I didn't have the ability"
The best thing about Billy getting caught out about his lie concerning game testing is that he is given an easy way out of the situation. He could have just said that the video reminded him of an incident he had forgotten, but he is such a narcissist that he doubles down and says his earlier testimony wasn't a lie. It's possibly the worst thing you can do when confronted with evidence that you committed perjury, because you can't walk it back by blaming it on poor memory.
Even worse was the "lips zipped" thing he did right after. He basically said he knows he f-d up but won't admit it aka zipped lips. Double down on the lie. Never admit.
@@J.C... my eyes damn near bugged out of my sockets when i saw that. did he not realize he was on camera!? you're in a deposition, WTF DO YOU MEAN YOUR LIPS ARE SEALED!!?? completely insane. i can't believe the lawsuit is still going on 8 months after THAT.
Or he could have said, that he was too focused on playing the game to notice, what was said.
Has your attorney looked into having Billy legally designated as a "Vexatious Litigant", so that he might be barred from bringing more frivolous lawsuits and motions in the future ?
Billy likely has other frivolous suits on record, regarding his failed business ventures, divorces, child support, etc.
the fact that there is 68 PAGES of these people for 1 state has me flabbergasted.
To my understanding it's incredibly difficult to convince a judge to declare someone a vexatious litigant and for fair enough reasons.
@@AlKohaiMusic yeah, it isn't something a lawyer can ask for I don't think - it is a punishment a judge hands down for serious offenses. Usually reserved for litigants that go above and beyond in how horrible they act.
I am so happy to be slacking off work! Perfect timing to enjoy another Karl Jobst masterwork.
I applaud the slacktivism
General strike! But honestly, keep getting paid just stop working.
Yo same!
It's hilarious that Billy Mitchell started this spiral by trying to threaten Karl with a lawsuit - only to see more evidence against Billy that can potentially land him in hot water.
I don't know what he expected, because he can't silence you.
Considering he tried to have that other RUclipsr give Karl strikes for the usage of that video without actually understanding current law or rulings on the matter... He clearly expected he could threaten Karl to silence. And we know how well that worked :)
Every time Karl trolls Billy with the truth, an angel gets its wings.
And a demon gets redeemed
"And of course, to make money. It's my job."
And it's literally in his name. Karl's transparency is why he will ultimately win this.
Billy can't help himself, he's the victim of dilusional narcissism. Poor guy😢
As a wise man once said: "Don't try to ruin someone else's life with lies, when your life can be ruined by the truth"
This year was really bad for me. I had to sell my car, the bank is trying to take my home and I had an accident at work. All that gave me a series of panic attacks. Seeing Billy Mitchell going to jail is the only thing that puts a smile on my face.
Hang in there you legend you can do it. You still alive so you can turn things around.
If Billy read this comment he'd probably pat himself on the back
I hope you have a better year ahead of you buddy, hang in there :' )
Man I feel you. I'm also recovering from debt, also had to sell my car, I don't have a house but I can imagine your stress. If I can give you one advice is: build a timeline of your financial recovery, how much money you're making and spending each month and how much of your debt you'll be able to pay each month. Take this moment to examine and cut any cost you can without making you and your family miserable, be creative. Open your mind to making more money by working more, maybe two jobs or maybe start freelancing in something well paid that you have the skills to do. Make sure to inform all of your relevant friends and all of your relevant family about your financial situation, so they will not only understand but also maybe even help you make or save money. You're not alone in this, you got this.
These last tips are very personal and I don't know if they'll apply to you:
1) Do you have a dream? I didn't, but I found one and decided I'll reach it in a span of three years. It helps me to find meaning in all of the hard work and hardships. For me is that I will become the professional I always dreamed of being. I will do anything to reach it (that is except spending money at least for the next 9 months) and I will reach it.
2) If you're religious, get closer to God. That doesn't mean necessairly going more to church, it's more opening your heart to Him and understanding He loves you, He cares about you and He will be with you through the crisis if you invite Him.
I don’t care about Billy or his video game record, but I do love when liars and conmen get what’s coming to them. I especially love when people that were wronged can publicly prove that they are correct. Victory!!!!
As excited as I am for Karl because he sure as hell didn't deserve any of this, I cannot help but still feel awful for Apollo. I never would've imagined someone would've made such a big deal about a video game over 40 years ago and would go any length to embellish the truth and threaten to ruin others lives. It's a ****ing video game. Was it really worth it?
@@8Bitorbust It's so tragic. The lengths these barely human narcissists go to keep their delusions alive needs to be more recognised legally. They get away with way too much and cause the majority of the problems across all levels of society. They are predatory beings who plan and plot to make other people's lives a misery because they can't stand, no, can't even fathom ever being wrong.
I'm sorry: Who is Apollo? I don't know that drama.@@8Bitorbust
Nothing screams 'confidence in your case' more than "Everything must be confidential and the defendants aren't allowed to talk among themselves"
10:15 Honestly, honestly, this might just be the most layman brain conclusion of all time. Out of all the stuff he's said, I wouldn't be surprised if he actually believes this one. He didn't "help" with the stuff being done inside the cab, he was just playing the game. Wild as it is, I can believe he believes it.
"Your honor, I did _not_ stab that person. They simply jumped into me several times in a row while I just happened to have my knife pointed out at above my head. Now if that just so happened to have "killed" that person, well, that's what _you_ think. We'll just have to agree to disagree here. Can I go now?"
I was thinking the same thing. I bet he believes a lot of the stuff he says, even when it's demonstrably false. Like, in this case, he didn't "help" with the tests, he was just playing the game and the tests were happening, and his unrelated actions just happened to help the tests, which he knew were happening, but he still was just playing a game. It takes some impressive mental gymnastics on his part to deny that equates to helping, but I think he believes it.
This is what he keeps doing though - he plays ignorant. Apparently in this instance it worked on you.
@@tuhaggis sad to say you're right. He won't be getting away with this though, I can take solace in that
This statement is the one excerpt that is sort of true in his myriad of strange word-salad. Billy (presumably) did not design the test, he did not setup any equipment, and (probably) did not collect or analyze any data. He is just playing the game. Now, the fact that game being played is integral to the test makes it seem strange. But when an individual participates in, e.g., a clinical trial, they are a participant, but "help" doesn't really seem to convey what such an individual is doing.
The problem is the lack of specificity of the word "help" in relation to a test. For an individual like Billy, I suspect he jumped on it because it helped with the narrative and was an attempt to recover from previous statements; it was just part of the ongoing dissembling. But from a legal perspective -- where parsing language can be extremely important (think of cases where the position of a comma has had significant impact on case) -- using the word "help" in this context was not precise.
Another example, websites do A/B testing all the time. Is one "helping" them by selecting a particular link? One is browsing; the fact that data is being collected to refine some process is incidental to the behavior of the individual.
While it is a funny trap around the word "test" and "help", and Billy's mangled use of "helping" was strange, I think there is a philosophy of science and linguistic argument that "help" was insufficiently precise in the question. From a lay perspective it is very humorous and frankly fits with the whole approach of Billy of saying one thing and then saying the opposite: "I'm not helping; but if it helps him, I'm happy to help."
I still love Billy's defense statement "I didn't see the videos(evidence)" so apparently if I ignore the evidence that exist everywhere then I guess I can get away with anything XD
It's the adult equivilent of hiding beneath your covers because the monsters under your bed won't see you as long as no skin is exposed.
it can be a valid defense. the issue though is Billy is a Compulsive liar.
I work alone and listen to stuff like this all day while I’m working. Finding Karl a few years ago talking about Todd Todgers was the greatest day ever.
I couldn’t imagine being this man’s lawyer. Billy for once in your life just tell the truth. The king on Con.
"Billy has lied so much and so many times that it's going to take years for me to cover them all."
I am in full support of this and will watch every second of it.
Twice. At least.
agreed
we just need a playlist for this and it would be great
The thing about liars, they don't remember their lies.
The truth stays consistent and never changes. He's dug himself so deep that he is likely going to end up broke from paying all these lawyers and telling them different stories each time.
Honestly I don't know why but I'm hooked on this story. Billy's lies are so freaking wild. Like you showed videos contradicting himself and he keeps on going like nothing happened!
If there is one good thing that you can say about Billy and Walter, it's that they're terrific salesmen. The thing that they're selling is themselves. They built up Twin Galaxies and Billy's reputation for three decades. Unfortunately, they needed to lie and cheat to do so. So, they really shot themselves in the foot because everyone wants to watch the house of cards fall down on top of them. It's not just that someone cheated, it's that Billy Mitchell cheated.
Billy's legal team should be held accountable for lying to court as well. Lawyers are not allowed to lie. We need this precendent in order to prevent further abuse of the legal system.
All the best to you, Karl, people like you are so important in these times of lies and betrayal - not just in terms of video games!
*Lawyers are not allowed to lie.*
BAHAHAHAHAHAHAA....
Lawyers are literally paid, professional liars.
"Lawyers are not allowed to lie" is the funniest thing I've heard all day.
do you even lawyer?!
the job of a lawyer is pretty much to lie and bent the gray areas of the laws, testimonies, evidence etc in favor of his client.
In what alternate reality do you live in? You know Santa is not real right?
@@dansebastiansuhanea5189 they literally can't knowingly lie for their client though. It's literally against the rules of professional conduct and they will be disbarred. And it's literally against the law. Lawyers can be charged with perjury for lying to the court. It's amazing how little some people understand the law... 🤦
Billy: Videogame player of the century and lawsuit veteran
Also Billy: Has never played Ace Attorney
If Mitchell would invest as much effort into actually being what he pretends to be he WOULD be legitimately worthy of the awards and honors he pretends he is! 😂
I do think he is actually a really good Donkey Kong/Classic arcade game player. If he just owned up to it and put in the work I would have a lot of respect for the guy.
@@Gatorade69it's too late for him to become respectable for owning up to his error like a man--after all he's done he can never be trusted again
Religiously, it's a different story--there is always mercy--but short of that religious conversion, and change of life, and reparations to everyone he has harmed... For nothing but selfish personal clout and greed... No, I don't agree he can regain respect by owning up (he's not owning up, he's admitting what everyone was forced to painstakingly prove through years of endless threats and legal harassment).
@@mariomene2051 Oh yeah, it is too late. I meant when the whole thing first happened.
@@Gatorade69 yeah that's more reasonable
He invests a lot of time and effort into that hair
My favorite part is that he could have just said "lol believe what you want. I'm the King of mother fucking Kong" and let some people choose to believe and some people to think he cheated. Instead, he has, through all his own actions, removed all possible doubts and FORCED the truth to surface. There isn't a crazed person in the world that was obsessed enough with uncovering the truth that would have led to this amount of Truth being brought to light. Great job, Billy! You did it!
Whats disturbing is there are still a handful of people defending Billy and trying to make light of the situation. You can even find a few of their comments on this video if you look before they delete them all.
This guy is like a goldmine for a reporter like you lmao. You wake up and within 1 days he's lied enough to make another full episode. Love the content u make Karl thank you for your commitment to digging so deep into the subjects you discuss!!
just like the sideScrollers did debunking DSP to his face in a youtube interview for five hours... that is a goldmine of laughs in and of itself 😂
"Did you receive any portion of the funds that HD Films paid for Twin Galaxies?"
Billy nods his head yes but says no.
Very odd.
If only there were journalists like you in the mainstream media holding the big ones just as accountable as you hold Billy, the world would be such a better place instantly.
Not that easy when half the population backs up whoever the big one at the time is.
So true, it's depressing how little rich and powerful people are held accountable for the shit they do.
Normally I'm the "F you, you corporate suit." Kinda person,
And I have strong moral fiber.
But recently I've been thinking
"If I were someone on like say a board of directors, what type of person would people see me as?"
Not defending people who abuse a position of power.
I just realized it doesn't matter how you actually act when you're in that position people will assume (and proclaim) that you're a scumbag.
I gotta say, at 5:55, having these four people in the same shot is pretty remarkable. Four of some of the biggest organized gaming scamsters out there, all on stage at the same time, trying to legitimize themselves and each other.
who are those 4?
literal nobodies.
@@Aladdindoescubes So Todd Rogers and Billy Mitchell on the left side, obviously. Walter Day, as the long time head of Twin Galaxies, obviously did a lot to further the image of those two as world-level gamers despite their fabrications (which you have to believe he knew about) and tried to profit from. And on the right, Isaiah "Triforce" Johnson (who is the more recent one in this conversation) was the founder of Empire Arcadia, one of the largest and most vaunted player orgs in the FGC, but which over time was found to have had manipulative relationships and exploitative contracts with his players, inhospitable living conditions for many of their players, all while trumping himself up as one of the most successful FGC organizers/player agents in the scene. There's also a history of him scamming money off of TOing events in Jamaica I believe. You can find a number of exposés on him here on YT.
One lies, the other three swear to it.
literally four horsemen of con artists
I feel like, at this point, Billy's lying is some sort of underlying mental condition, one that keeps him from being unable to lie, even when it comes to things that he doesn't need to lie about. Like you ask him "Hey, Billy, how's your day been?" on a day where nothing has really happened to him, and he'll make up this convoluted story about how he slept on the street the night before, he got attacked by wild dogs, and that he got into a major car accident, all while there's clear evidence of none of that being the case
It's called being a compulsive liar and it often goes hand-in-hand with narcissism.
I knew somebody like this once who would even contradict himself, sometimes all in the same sentence.
It feels more like he is incapable of comprehending the reality, and instead lives in some sort of a fantasy realm where he's the cool, suave protagonist. So it's not so much that he keeps lying, it's more like he's telling his own truth. But some of his behaviour also just seems like something a toddler would do, like when he did the zipper-gesture in front of his mouth. A four year old might see that done on TV and then imitate it because they think it looks cool. I don't know, would be interesting to hear what an actual trained professional thinks about him, rather than a bunch of baseless speculation form kitchen psychologists like myself.
Billy claims he wants everything to be transparent and then sues in court to keep everything non-transparent. Epic.