ONVO L60: Will NIO's new MASS MARKET EV be a success?
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- Опубликовано: 5 авг 2024
- Join me for an exclusive look around the ONVO L60 from NIO as we find out more about the car set to come out later this year. More infor can be found on onvo.cn.
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battery swapping is key for resale value of evs
No its not. Its a niche feature from Nio and nobody else.
@@wolfgangpreier9160 Not niche in China. Have you not seen their partnership agreements. Basically with every state owned manufacturer in China at this point. There will be millions of cars swapping per day within the next 3-5 years.
@@08Derrock Nio has sold 160.000 cars in China and supports 2300 swap stations.
That is what i call niche product.
Tesla - as only one example - has sold 600.000 vehicles and supports 13.000 chargers. And is still a niche product in a 30 million market.
@@wolfgangpreier9160 once again, you completely ignored my comment. They have partnered with nearly every single state owned car manufacturer that each sell hundreds of thousands if not millions of cars a year. NIO will most likely have 5k swap stations within the next few years, further increasing their infrastructure. They are very close to break even on this business model already the flood gates will open in the next few years once these partnerships come to fruition and NIOs sub brands ONVO and FIREFLY take the stage later this year with an addition 10k+-30k+ vehicles per month. You don’t seem to be forward thinking.
That's what i was thinking. Who wants to buy EV with half a dead battery
It's amazing that NIO can come out with such refined design and the cutting edge technology! I love every one in their model lineup. Great taste NIO.
Don't forget that this is a Subrand of Nio!
Subrand like this high tech on Onvo is a game changer for the New SEV industry!
Bravo Nio Team!
@@mingzmings88
Different price points.
wrgg
@@mingzmings88who would buy a Lexus over Toyota? Plenty of folks.
@@mingzmings88and of course all the 900v nio's will be out next year.😊
@@mingzmings88 don't be a pretentious d bag. There are enough Tesla fanboys in the world already. You don't need to act like another one.
These cars are so pretty I hope the company does good because I bought some shares 😂
Tenlo por seguro amigo,solo hay que tener paciencia y creer en la empresa y tratar de publicitarla lo más que podamos como accionistas.Nos hacemos un favor entre todos.
This is just d first of more in the ONVO lineup, I see nio & partners rolling out up to 10000 batt swap stations in China by 2030,
GO ONVO!!! The future of EV cars for the family
Nio / Onvo Amazing!!! 🤩🤩🤩
They have ticked ✅ all the boxes and beyond with battery swap!!!
Especially with Nio products you get the peace of mind which means the great quality on all areas!!!
I look forward for other new models 😍😍😍
This must go worldwide as soon as possible! 🎉🎉🎉
Well done Nio / Onvo
Awesome video Elliot! Loving the content, bringing the latest in EVs to the rest of the world
😁
Bring one with you down under!
The technology in this car is amazing. I don't know why anybody would choose a Tesla Y over this ONVO.
Word.
Price - possibly, the insecurity of Chinese brands staying on the European market, supercharger network…
@@Scarbir Price and fear of longevity. True.
The charging point is an advantage for NIO given the fear of battery degradation is ease.
Not too long ago
Because it does not work as good as a Tesla. 🤷♀ I don't care for gimmicks or driving on the Mars. I care fo efficiency, low total cost of ownership and safety. Lidar is worthless without the Software. And that does not exist.
Good looking car!!! Plus swap feature!? That’s a no brainer!!!
🔥 Excited to dive into the discussion about ONVO L60 and NIO's latest venture into the MASS MARKET EV realm! 🚗💨 Will they revolutionize the industry once again? Let's find out! 💡
looks surprisingly good
Modern Chinese EV's tend to look pretty sleek on the outside. It's the inside where all the horrors lurk....😮
@@edwardfletcher7790 pour soul…you are still living in the 90s mate, wake up.
@@bergarox I'm just following all the EV fires on Chinese media....
@@bergarox I can smell the battery pack shorting out from here 😜 lol
@@edwardfletcher7790enjoy your out date “Morden” western EVs.
It’s beautiful.
It looks amazing! Go NIO🚀🚀🚀🔥🔥🔥
This will boom NIO to the moooonnnnnnn
10 % down right now, 😂😂😂
@@jsfwd don't lie... is down 9%
Bye bye.
We've been hearing that for the last 3 years, but it never materializes. Nothing but excuses from NIO.
Beautiful car
I can't take my eyes off Eliot's shoes... and the dead mouse at 6.19 by the rear wheel! ;-)
Very well observed! Looks like this channel has more NIO/ONVO fanboys or (fanbots?) than the total number of NIO car owners outside of China
Actually really like design and with NIO technology it should be proper EV to drive to, hopefully will come to Europe 😊😊.
Elliot keep up with great work
thank you! Hope you get the chance to drive one soon
Great video Elliot
Thanks Ross
Beautiful, agree about the back.
Beautiful design 😍
That’s a nice whip Bro. I’d Buy one for sure.
I would too here in the U.S but too bad the U.S government will prevent CHina EV from entering. They are afraid of competition and China's Nio is no joke.
That looks good!
Damn impressive car. Great video. Thx.
Gorgeous car looks so beautiful!!’ll buy. How much is the price for this ONVO when they get to SF (U S A)?
I do find it odd that it will support battery swapping but does not come with NIO's standard 75/100/150 kWh NCM battery packs, which would then mean not every swap station will support Onvo, as NIO says they will refit about a third of their stations to be compatible with Onvo at the start. I guess the regular NIO packs are just too expensive for Onvo models. But OTOH if Onvo's come with cheaper LFP packs and are still able to be swapped, and can be leased at a cheaper price compared with NIO's packs, that could be interesting.
Plus now that Geely, Changan, Chery, and JAC are all partners with NIO on battery swapping, do the cheaper Onvo packs represent a new standardized swappable pack that might be compatible with ALL these carmakers? If so and they also start pitching in (Geely and Changan are some big hitters in the EV space in China) by building new swap stations, that could really make battery swapping far more mainstream.
Gen 3 and up swap stations support different battery sizes.
I think the issue is that regular NIO packs are 400V while the L6 needs 900V packs.
60/90/120kwh❤
@@cruiser97eric1correct
Amazing car and technology for the price! A real hot seller for anyone looking for the “bang for the buck”.
Much better looking than Tesla
No its not.
@@wolfgangpreier9160 Just because you say so lol.
@@imanshaf8429 yes. 😘 XoXo
Not sure what would look worse than a Tesla. The only company to make every new product uglier than the previous one. Every time one step uglier. Impressive.
@@wolfgangpreier9160 🤦🤷
The onvo looks amazing 😩😍
200,000RMB? Not bad! Equivalent to about £22k/$28k (before any blinkered protectioneering tariffs or shipping costs). I really like the drive to efficiency - Tesla Model 3 is still the main benchmark for that, but all EVs need to be aiming at >5miles/kWh / 12kWh/100km territory, and not the 3ish/20ish that is currently seen as 'about right'.
28k in dollars? Earlier Chinese cars for the price easily translate to €45k - €48k in Europese, which will make this much less appealing unfortunately.
@@Scarbir Yeah, they do that, because the US or EU car manufacturers have been too used to overcharging for so long they've conditioned customers into thinking of cars as that sort of price. For example, VW charge about £15k for an iD3 in China, but 2.5 to 3x that in EU/UK. US buyers are the ones who are going to get the worst deal - they currently get some keen prices, but sticking a 100% tariff om these will just give Ford, GM, etc. an excuse to let the sticker cost drift upwards to match.
@@Scarbir BYD and Dongfeng cost between 2.1 and 3.7 times more than in China. Do the math.
It's a good name. It sounds like Envoy ( someone sent out as a messenger to represent another person or group, such as a country or business)
The Chinese name 乐道 means "happy road", as in Bon Voyage, which is probably more of what Onvo is trying to evoke. It's fine I think, although I do find the Chinese name rahter awkward sounding.
GO ONVO
Does somebody know if it will have a voice assistant like Nomi?
Beautiful. I hope its my next car. What price and when is it available in Poland ? Greetings
The price in China is about $30000
In UE x 1,5 :(
I hope its my next car
It took a while but now we are getting somewhere with EV's. Best of luck to NIO. Telsa are making noises about leaving the auto industry in favour of robotics and FSD. Which is good. Telsa acted as the catalyst.
Tesla robot is years behind Asian robots. Good riddance if Tesla fails, it's just a bunch of d bags.
Beautiful car! I wish we could have them in the states.
the states gov increase the 100% tax for ev car from china .
@@wangjianmikewe still buying
Don’t buy yet any EV in America, if USA have no competition it means their product is not innovative like some Chinese car brand . ex. Tesla has a lot of recall all of its model,, but Nio car I don’t see if there is a recall history, because if there is a recall it’s a big news already for the short.
Looks amazing
It’s a nice nice product.
Hi Elliott, can you also convert the car prices you quote from RMB to Euros and US dollars? If your videos were aimed mostly at Chinese consumers, you'd be speaking Mandarin!
$29k in China with battery. If you lease the battery, it’s probably going to be around $21k.
@matty946 Great comment! 👏👏👏👏 Too lazy to convert the prices? 🙈🙈🙈
@@hdvoice That would be about 55-65K Euros in Europe.
Nice. Unfortunately US residents would not able to buy such affordable n well designed cars
It ok we got horses
WOW!!!
What's the ticker symbol for this ONVO company on NASDAQ if you want to invest in it?
nio
Please invest, I need the stock to go up so I can get rid of it, had big hopes for this company but they just keep disappointing.
very good, ....take 100% import duty..as prize..
😂😆
You know a country is scared when they have to slap crazy high tariffs on imports cars just to try and keep Thier own car ev manufacturer slightly competitive 😂
No one will buy expensive Chinese cars😂
When the Chinese peps retaliate by not buying Teslas, Elon will be in Washington talking to Biden. And remember, that 100% tariff applies to Teslas made in China.
Look brilliant and something I would buy for young college kids.
Is this the Johnny Smith Moment for Elliot?
One correction, this car doesn't have Lidar on it, instead it equipped with 1 4D millimeter wave radar. 8:23
The future
Very glad to see this, when can I buy it for under 30k in Europe?
Never it'll be 50-100% more if it's sold in the EU. 😀👍🏻
@@4literv6 blame von der leyen
Tariffs.
Land of the free just made 100% tariff on chinese ev's so people can go on and buy even more expensive cars in this devastating economy
Your government takes before it pass it on to the people after they steal their money ofc
@@MiraMaj1 genocide joe is very desperate
Will it come to the uk ?
Most likely
Mike drop! L60 take NIO mainstream w/ ONVO 😍. Battery swap & Baas= EV battery lifetime warranty and convenience of ♻️ 🦖🦕⛽😂
I love NlO
This car is a beast. Shit
I thought Nio didnt add lidars into the Onvo cars?
They didn't. He's mistaken.
Nice 👍
Is Elliott a small guy or the Onvo is huge, for some reason i thought Onvo is a small vehicle but to my surprise it looks massive.
The angles do look weird. I think he's 5'10" or so.
Very well designed for the target market!
When they say “battery swap” I suppose it is still possible to charge the battery yourself, isn’t it?
Yes
He talked the whole 15 mins without open a door to show the inside. 😮
The interior is not to show yet m
I remember that video!!! The first one I watched about Chinese cars
like an electric lotus and bmw had a baby lol, nice
Let's hope this model does well. For some reason, our stock shares are taking a blow today.
NIO stock takes blows repeatedly. It almost never goes up and when it does it is immediately followed by new and deeper lows.
now Nio will have to increase the gap with Onvo and therefore make Nio cars take a more luxury step
What are the boot/frunk details, Elliot?
No frunk. Boot size is unknown yet
@@hdvoice , boot or hatchback?
Oh, and thanks!
it would be nice to see Nio in Australia but probably won't happen. The rear reminds me of a BMW X4
xpeng is entering australia q4 2024 with the g6. i'm sure nio will come soon enough
I hope to see Nio in OZ too but the infrastructure required to make Nio competitive doesn’t look like easy to set up.
🤤
The last Onvo 🤯😅
ONVO, Supper EV..Battery swap 👏👏👏😍😍😍❤️
183cm very tall?
Very sexy car
Is Nomi on board?
No Nomi
I'm not seeing many Chinese cars around except MG
in europe? if yes then it’s because the price jump so high it’s stupid to buy one
How this out so early? Nice one Elliot!
onvo will have no rival
@@cocoaiscool2709 yep, I've seen that ora and atto, but way past £30k
Sometimes i see a BYD in the middle of Europe. Rarely. They only sell in a few hundred ach year.
Nio is going to be the company that's going to being down Tesla to its knees
Seems like it is showing Tesla the grave.
It's most interesting that they do not let you show the interior. Just standing next to the car and talking about it is pointless.
Nio is the old g before byd
tesla's death by 1000 cuts
Tesla has started cutting production, engineering, and logistic staff at its Shanghai factory in another wave of layoffs, so it to must be seeing all these competitors cutting into Model Y sales much like the earlier wave of sedan EVs cutting into Model 3 sales in China.
Indeed, this can actually go global without swap infrastructure as charging is ultra fast
@@ciybersal3499 Good point
@@tren133yup Shanghai global sales down 10% this year. Great stuff
No its not. Nio is too expensive. And nobody wants battery swap. I would have to drive 600km to the next station. And 2m to the next 11kW charger. Guess what i chose.
it is better looking than NIO
Thankyou for the commercial on behalf of Nio.
any FSD?
Yes,
@@reginald7214 how good? like tesla?
Nice car unless you are American no Nio for you
Nio's UK boss Matt Galvin has left for rival company Polestar with no replacement in the frame, raising questions over the Chinese EV brand’s long-mooted plans for a UK launch
Nothing NIO has done has been a commercial success, why would this be any different.
Hope dies last.
Isn't it 1-2-1 copy of new Polestar?
Do you have stock in Nio @Elliot? It’s a striking car but wow, so much PR bullcrap and assumptions!
The model Y has barely been sold globally for 48 months&was the #1 vehicle in sales for 2023. It's the #1 ev still in 2024!
So explain how that equates to=overdue for an update?
An update you already know from multiple leaks is in the works for later this year or beginning of 2025 as the code named juniper update. 😏🤚
Tesla sales in China are on a decline. As they should be. Trash overhyped brand.
good car, so bad Americans can not buy it.
V2L…V2G???
Those front headlights seem inspired on polestar 4 design
My first thoughts also
RIP Tesla ... only now being kept afloat due to government intervention ...
How many miles b4 self combustion?
Where is the number ?
how can NIO build a car at this price and still make a profit when thay can't even sell a NIO with a profit? I'm not saying they can't but they must have cut some major corners.
Because they benefit from the billions spent t in r&d from nio.
Those horns have to go.
Battery leasing is the dumbest thing you can do.
Hey, it's you again. Single handedly bringing down the IQ of this chat. Well done. You can buy the battery you know, right spanky?
@@reginald7214 you can buy the battery and then you cannot use the swapping station. So let's got that straight. It's too expensive for what it is and if you want to bring the price down you need to lease the battery and cannot use the swapping technology.
@@whynotstartusingyourbrain8726 thanks slappy. It has the largest plug in charger network in china.
It looks a little bit like a copy of the Tesla model Y car in my opinion.
Absolutely, that tail light is a straight copy of a model Y 😅
A little bit? How little? Which bit?
@@kamsunleong6648
From the rear and from the profile, are you happy now?
What in the world are you talking about, fanboy?
@@reginald7214
No fanboy here junior, to me all EVs suck I’m into real cars not cars that run on duracell batteries.
Look at the Onvo again, this time with your eyes open, the rear and the profile is the Tesla model Y.
it's OK sleek looking, and probably a great car, but the issue with chinese cars and also this one, is that they alle look so generic. not much carisma or personality to Nio and BYD cars
Nio needs to stop adding models and start manufacturing the models they already have. They most have at least 10 models now but keep selling 6000 cars a year.
No inside pic.. pass
Vaaed pn Xpeng, quite good, but the Nio boss choose the Xpeng X9 because it is luch better than any Nio, but now tzey will collaborate ajd do better products! Did they include the Lidars down aa Xpeng does?
they lost USD35K per car sold in 2022-23 according to NYT ... the key question should be how much they lose by selling it at $30K?
Sourcing NYT for any China related info...😂🎉
NYT? Best source of info related to China 😂