Better autonomy driver , much more space , better materials , you can swap different batteries to avoid battery degradation, better price...so definetely not "only" swap
exactly, I think it's a small detail that gives it its own personality without going overboard and becoming an eyesore (cough... Cybertruck!..... cough, cough, excuse me)
They really need to bring this car to other APAC market too. If the price is right, I am sure Onvo can be seen as an affordable luxury brand, like Coach.
yes the strip is little bit complicate， also the headlamp has been severed from day drving lamp , maybe they can consolidate components and has lean sense in face desgin
Agree with the bonnet lines a calm shell design would look better and if their is no front truck just but the screen wash bottle in the boot, it will be warmer their and less prone to freezing then the bonnet can be semi-sealed to be opened once a year for the safety service checks.
Not worried about US EPA. Onvo's not available there. And the front is NIOish. I would've ditched the bottom lights then it's definitely a NIO. A future update? Design changes in head / tail lights are the easiest to do to make one model year distinctive from another.
Not sure how it competes software-wise. I’ve heard great things from Xpeng, don’t know what to expect from Nio. Looks like a great car though and to be honest: I don’t know why people still choose tesla nowadays. There are much better options for those that value comfort over speed and performance.
I can't overstate the value of impartial (or at least fair) communication. Suffice it to say, you guys "hit it out of the park" once again with this timely, informative, and much-anticipated review. I look forward to learning more about this newest industry participant and other quality and innovative brands hailing from the Mainland. Cheers
just US$30k for this Tesla Model Y rival looks like a nice deal. trouble is, China's EV market is so hyper-competitive that there are still cheaper alternatives (eg: Leapmotor C10 starts ay US$18k).
The architecture voltage 400v and 800v are more classes than set voltage figures, so an actual 900v vehicle would be classified as an 800v architecture
@@burnttoast9890I understand that but in term of logic, L60 is bigger better and cheaper and also not a death trap, if people still be choosing Model Y then it’s not about the car anymore
I’m about to watch the video but I think Tesla is going to surprise a lot of people with Model Y refresh that will be launched by the time the L60 does. At the end of the day, there’s still a @&@!& ton of gas car sales to get. Tesla only has around 3% market share in China. Good electric cars should increase in sales together.
I do not like the front bonnet shut like because the line is broken at several places and runs pseudo-parallel to the crease over the wheel well, then switches to the top of the headlights. Good concept, but I find the execution poor. Simple is better I think. Too bad too, because I dig the overall feel of the front. This implementation of the split headlight is pretty alright.
To b honest, this is better dan tesla to me and av been a model Y fan 4 Eva. Musk needs to upgrade a front aesthetics of his cars except d model x and s. Nio is now going to be worth over $50 I 12 months. Buying more.
Is it? Sure, it miles off but there are zero chinese cars in the USA. Not sure how that could make even a fraction of a difference or are you just a Tesla fanboy? Tesla uses cltc in China. Nio uses Wltp nedc in Europe. When in Rome.
@@reginald7214 certainly not a Tesla fanboy, and I have zero investment in either company,. But as someone who lives outside the country and just learned about the difference it's important that it's pointed out sl since many people do not know about it.
One big advantage of NIO and Onvo EV is that you have the possibility of battery swapping battery upgrading or charging and of course no worries about the degrading of the battery.
Let's not focus only on short-term gains but consider the long-term growth of NIO's stock. By calculating the potential revenue from battery swapping, we can get a clearer picture. Next year, NIO's revenue from battery swapping is expected to be around $3.6 million. This is based on the assumption of four swaps per day at a cost of $14 per swap, which results in approximately $730 in annual revenue per vehicle. With the current participation of eight companies in battery swapping and a monthly sales estimate of 50,000 vehicles, we can extrapolate these figures. By 2030, NIO's revenue from battery swapping alone is projected to reach $7.8 billion annually. Adding the fees from NIO's extensive network of charging stations, which are used by 85% of other companies, the total revenue is expected to exceed $10 billion. This estimate does not include vehicle sales from NIO's sub-brand, ONVO.
The annoying and ugly thing that distorts the design and appearance of any car especially an electric car, which is the front vehicle number plate. Yes, a statutory legal topic, but we really want to push this topic forward to remove it (like some united states of America). Great review with a wonderful camera though.
Efficiency is based on many factors, one of them is the curb weight. If Tesla has a heavier structure and safer cabin, then the different in the efficiency is irrelevant. Safety is way more important, so I will wait until the safety rating comes out to make my mind.
busy to my eye… battery swap is something for china urban area nio might have begun to service and where most buyers might be apartment dwellers… but it is still limited by daily volume demand … makes zero sense for world wide demand… longer range and home charging makes sense for road cars in america where average driver is driving less then 40 miles daily
In terms of safety metrics, Nio's target of making smart driving 10 times safer than human driving by 2025 sets a clear benchmark for improvement, with current progress at 6.26 times safer. On the other hand, Tesla's FSD safety claims include significantly lower accident rates compared to human drivers, although precise comparative metrics like Nio's are less frequently detailed.
Have to agree with Sean. This L60 definitely is not going to steal anything from Tesla. The looks are average/boring at best and alot less refined than a proper NIO (side mirrors are pretty horrible). Granted its much cheaper. The range specs are also nothing special , and not on par when compared to Xiaomi. Which is surprising as they claim good aerodynamics and efficiency. And comparing to Tesla is a bit misleading as this has a 900V architecture and Tesla is still achieving that efficiency with an inefficient 400V system.- So perhaps the rest of the cocktail like weight etc is not that optimal. No mention so far of other performance specs like Acceleration , braking and max speed. At least they got rid of that annoying Nomi. Still a terrible name of a car. ON-VO
@@reginald7214 What video where you watching ? He clearly pointed out areas where the design was not optimal. All he LOVED was the battery swap. Which is not really a selling feature. Funny how NIO Bullies like to show everything NIO in positive NIO Bullshit perspectives.
@@dullumullu he didn't like the hood line and no frunk. Everything else he SAID was BETTER than Tesla. Better drag, better interior, better efficiency, head up display, better roominess, reclinable rear seats, better materials, better build quality. Are you an electric viking simp or some other ignorant 🤡? What's your story, why are you here spamming for Tesla?
I think that the perspective buyer makes the decision which car he prefers. Whether Onvo or Tesla or not even Nio .Thats how the market works best affordable product. and time will tell
@@reginald7214 No problem with Chinese companies and the cars are nice. But do have a problem with a company that has almost $5bn debt, losing $35,000 per car sold. And charging, on it's own, will always be a low margin business. No wonder the number of shares outstanding has soared to 2bn.
@@reginald7214 I have no problem with Chinese companies and the cars are nice. But do have a problem with a company that has almost $5bn debt, losing $35,000 per car sold. And charging, on it's own, will always be a low margin business. So it's no wonder the number of shares has soared to 2bn.
@@shoelessjoe428 I don't get it. They'll be faster to profitability than Tesla. Why the whining about infrastructure and r&d? They have 6 automaker partners on swap, plus the government and electric companies for energy arbitrage. They'll be fine.
@@reginald7214 They could have 100 automakers on swap, but the margins will still be tiny - and getting smaller over time as batteries improve. Think of it this way, if you ask anyone who works at a gas station how much they make from selling gas they'll tell you that's it's not much and how they make far more from selling magazines and soft drinks. Now consider that 90% of people's charging will be done at home (increasing over time). Something that can't be done with ice obviously. This makes the economics worse.
The competitive advantage of Onvo L60 is the swabable battery. That is in itself the best feature.
Better autonomy driver , much more space , better materials , you can swap different batteries to avoid battery degradation, better price...so definetely not "only" swap
Better autonomy better blah blah do you own this onvo?This is literally concept car 😅 maybe after a year we can decide which has what better
it looks great lights look fine to me , I think it will be a winner
It looks gorgeous, hoping this will elevate nio.
Hit the nail on the head with that last statement: "As a car it has done everything it can possibly do"
This ONVO L60 is super competitive! That efficiency is strong as well.
Thanks for the review!
Lights look good. Car looks great!
The lights are fine tbh
I really like the front. Get a little bit of polestar vibes.
GO ONVO GO
Thanks for your top quality reviews! Straight to the point, and no filler!
prefer the front to the back tbh. overall has a good balance.
the best channel for China EV!!
i have the same critique about the hood lines being too complicated but it's easy to be forgotten if everything else looks decent.
Nice car! Good job!
The front looks fine. It doesn't look spectacular. It doesn't look bad. It looks like an ev.
I like the lines around the headlights - and I think this car needs it too, to be distinctive from so many competitors.
exactly, I think it's a small detail that gives it its own personality without going overboard and becoming an eyesore (cough... Cybertruck!..... cough, cough, excuse me)
No problems with the front. I guess it's just your personal taste
IMHO the bonnet/headlight alignment is more of an interesting design choice than wrong decision.
They really need to bring this car to other APAC market too. If the price is right, I am sure Onvo can be seen as an affordable luxury brand, like Coach.
This car looks beautiful
Great review!
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Very nice! Good Bang for your Buck!
Is a Beautiful car !!!🥰🥰
I hope it will go on sale outside of China, seems like a good option.
Bring it to Norway nooooooow
I can confirm this front 'alignment' is a personal issue to you.
Looks great, go NIO🚀🚀🚀🔥🔥🔥
Aftermarket color matching upper bezels which allow the the light to show at night might make the front more attractive. Either way, looks fine!
I love the front.
Beautiful car , Brings back Mitshubishi Lancer memories .
Looks amazing
Thank you
I personally like the arrangement of the front lights area. I can sort of see why it bothers you.
hood lines are good, like it this way. Only side mirrors could be better, but understand this may be due to drag coefficient to be refined.
yes the strip is little bit complicate， also the headlamp has been severed from day drving lamp , maybe they can consolidate components and has lean sense in face desgin
Looks so good. RHD pls
Is beautiful car I like the front more than the back
Agree with the bonnet lines a calm shell design would look better and if their is no front truck just but the screen wash bottle in the boot, it will be warmer their and less prone to freezing then the bonnet can be semi-sealed to be opened once a year for the safety service checks.
Bonnet line looks good to me, back beautiful, front less so but on par with Tesla 3 highlander
Nice. Go go Nio.
Very beautiful
I LOVE IT
Not worried about US EPA. Onvo's not available there. And the front is NIOish. I would've ditched the bottom lights then it's definitely a NIO. A future update? Design changes in head / tail lights are the easiest to do to make one model year distinctive from another.
Then again, I might've ditched the top lights on the front. Future update!
I had to watch this twice
After this car they definitely need to increase the efficiency of Nio cars.
We need a review about the sea lion 07
And why is there another SUV coupé for the same proce as the song L
Not sure how it competes software-wise. I’ve heard great things from Xpeng, don’t know what to expect from Nio. Looks like a great car though and to be honest: I don’t know why people still choose tesla nowadays. There are much better options for those that value comfort over speed and performance.
NiO ans BYD is Cooking
I can't overstate the value of impartial (or at least fair) communication. Suffice it to say, you guys "hit it out of the park" once again with this timely, informative, and much-anticipated review. I look forward to learning more about this newest industry participant and other quality and innovative brands hailing from the Mainland.
Cheers
Thanks
I love NIO but I just can't see any typical NIO design beauty on this car
just US$30k for this Tesla Model Y rival looks like a nice deal. trouble is, China's EV market is so hyper-competitive that there are still cheaper alternatives (eg: Leapmotor C10 starts ay US$18k).
You called out that this is on the 800v platform but it is on the model features 900V high-voltage architecture. How does that differ?
The architecture voltage 400v and 800v are more classes than set voltage figures, so an actual 900v vehicle would be classified as an 800v architecture
nice
if people still be choosing Model Y after this 💀
Model Y was the best selling car in the world last year 💀
@@burnttoast9890I understand that but in term of logic, L60 is bigger better and cheaper and also not a death trap, if people still be choosing Model Y then it’s not about the car anymore
US just put 100% tax on Chinese EVs 🤡, say goodbye to affordable EVs.
I’m about to watch the video but I think Tesla is going to surprise a lot of people with Model Y refresh that will be launched by the time the L60 does. At the end of the day, there’s still a @&@!& ton of gas car sales to get. Tesla only has around 3% market share in China. Good electric cars should increase in sales together.
@@cocoaiscool2709 battery swap tech has failed miserably outside china eg - norway
Design wise is more creative than Model Y boring design.
How much more expensive for the consumer is the service of battery swap?
Too bad we won’t get it in USA.
No one uses frunk anyway
What size is the boot also what’s max charging ?
+looks much better/sportier than Y
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I do not like the front bonnet shut like because the line is broken at several places and runs pseudo-parallel to the crease over the wheel well, then switches to the top of the headlights.
Good concept, but I find the execution poor. Simple is better I think.
Too bad too, because I dig the overall feel of the front. This implementation of the split headlight is pretty alright.
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中國電動車品牌蔚來（Nio）旗下子品牌樂道（ONVO），5 月中正式發表首款產品L60。
李斌曾在财报电话会上表示，第二品牌新产品线将主要承担 销量 增长的任务，（品牌推出）早期阶段销量的优先级 高于 毛利率。
据李斌介绍，乐道汽车旗下首款车型乐道L60对标 特斯拉Model Y，主打 家用 智能纯电SUV市场；第二款产品会是面向 大家庭的 SUV车型。
“乐道L60对标特斯拉Model Y，但成本会较特斯拉Model Y降低10%左右。” 李斌曾对外透露。
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Tesla Model Y is ugly but the L60 is a more palatable plus battery swap.
To b honest, this is better dan tesla to me and av been a model Y fan 4 Eva. Musk needs to upgrade a front aesthetics of his cars except d model x and s. Nio is now going to be worth over $50 I 12 months. Buying more.
I agree, the shut line isn't ideal
Lite version of NIO
Thank you for covering the efficiency standard differences between the 2 countries. It's a big deal.
Is it? Sure, it miles off but there are zero chinese cars in the USA. Not sure how that could make even a fraction of a difference or are you just a Tesla fanboy? Tesla uses cltc in China. Nio uses Wltp nedc in Europe. When in Rome.
@@reginald7214 certainly not a Tesla fanboy, and I have zero investment in either company,. But as someone who lives outside the country and just learned about the difference it's important that it's pointed out sl since many people do not know about it.
@@2mitts fair points . the Chinese one is ridiculous. It sounds like the test is performed on an indoor treadmill or something similarly useless
One big advantage of NIO and Onvo EV is that you have the possibility of battery swapping battery upgrading or charging and of course no worries about the degrading of the battery.
RIP Tesla ... only now being kept afloat due to government intervention ...
The Car Looks so nice,when comes to Europe and what's the Price for Europe? That's Interesting for me...
Is this car profitable for NIO?
It hasn't even been released yet jfc
Oh you're a Tesla fanboy. I get it.. sorry Elon turned out to be such a terrible human being.
According to William Li it is 10% cheaper to produce it than a Model Y.
@@dragsteraa he's a fanboy just trolling thru here
Let's not focus only on short-term gains but consider the long-term growth of NIO's stock. By calculating the potential revenue from battery swapping, we can get a clearer picture. Next year, NIO's revenue from battery swapping is expected to be around $3.6 million. This is based on the assumption of four swaps per day at a cost of $14 per swap, which results in approximately $730 in annual revenue per vehicle. With the current participation of eight companies in battery swapping and a monthly sales estimate of 50,000 vehicles, we can extrapolate these figures. By 2030, NIO's revenue from battery swapping alone is projected to reach $7.8 billion annually. Adding the fees from NIO's extensive network of charging stations, which are used by 85% of other companies, the total revenue is expected to exceed $10 billion. This estimate does not include vehicle sales from NIO's sub-brand, ONVO.
No wonder Brandon choose this specific time to issue an order regarding the Chinese EVs, scar a little.
Looks good qs is can they mass produce at profit ?
The annoying and ugly thing that distorts the design and appearance of any car especially an electric car, which is the front vehicle number plate.
Yes, a statutory legal topic, but we really want to push this topic forward to remove it (like some united states of America). Great review with a wonderful camera though.
Efficiency is based on many factors, one of them is the curb weight. If Tesla has a heavier structure and safer cabin, then the different in the efficiency is irrelevant. Safety is way more important, so I will wait until the safety rating comes out to make my mind.
Oooooo ooo ...bomb bomb
Onvo/Nio is bringing this car to Europe und the US, right?
not to us market，Americans are crazy
Front- Polestar 4, rear -X6...
No FSD. Not for me.
Hey fanboy! We know you. 😂😂 Still spamming away eh? Good for you.
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Nope you are not the only one who get bothered by the front design...I can't get over it either...
busy to my eye… battery swap is something for china urban area nio might have begun to service and where most buyers might be apartment dwellers… but it is still limited by daily volume demand … makes zero sense for world wide demand…
longer range and home charging makes sense for road cars in america where average driver is driving less then 40 miles daily
how is making the most expensive part of the car swappable make zero sense? Like really? ZERO sense?
rear end is literally the bmw x5 lolll
100% tariff.
Its Chinese
Thank goodness.
Great technology. Oh wait….
What Nio will need to surpass Tesla? FSD!!!!
Fsd is an embarrassment
In terms of safety metrics, Nio's target of making smart driving 10 times safer than human driving by 2025 sets a clear benchmark for improvement, with current progress at 6.26 times safer. On the other hand, Tesla's FSD safety claims include significantly lower accident rates compared to human drivers, although precise comparative metrics like Nio's are less frequently detailed.
Sure looks great
Have to agree with Sean.
This L60 definitely is not going to steal anything from Tesla.
The looks are average/boring at best and alot less refined than a proper NIO (side mirrors are pretty horrible). Granted its much cheaper.
The range specs are also nothing special , and not on par when compared to Xiaomi.
Which is surprising as they claim good aerodynamics and efficiency.
And comparing to Tesla is a bit misleading as this has a 900V architecture and Tesla is still achieving that efficiency with an inefficient 400V system.-
So perhaps the rest of the cocktail like weight etc is not that optimal.
No mention so far of other performance specs like Acceleration , braking and max speed.
At least they got rid of that annoying Nomi.
Still a terrible name of a car. ON-VO
Sean totally loved this car. What video were you watching? Did you lose money on nio stock or something or just a Tesla fanboy?
@@reginald7214 What video where you watching ? He clearly pointed out areas where the design was not optimal. All he LOVED was the battery swap. Which is not really a selling feature.
Funny how NIO Bullies like to show everything NIO in positive NIO Bullshit perspectives.
@@dullumullu he didn't like the hood line and no frunk. Everything else he SAID was BETTER than Tesla. Better drag, better interior, better efficiency, head up display, better roominess, reclinable rear seats, better materials, better build quality. Are you an electric viking simp or some other ignorant 🤡? What's your story, why are you here spamming for Tesla?
I think that the perspective buyer makes the decision which car he prefers. Whether Onvo or Tesla or not even Nio .Thats how the market works best affordable product. and time will tell
not like exterior styling
They copied the Hyundai N logo 😂
yes，everything's comes from the South Korea, even the English byte.
@@yqzh5396 what’s an english byte wumao, afaic english ain’t written in 0 and 1 digits
Free Palestine 🇵🇸
If people choose Onvo over still the very best electric SUV, the Model Y with FSD soon, I don’t know…. Nio 💀
Lol fsd has been coming out "soon" for the better part of a decade now.
Fsd is 8 years overdue fanboy
@@reginald7214 R.I.P
@@dabigchina R.I.P.
The rims take away from the beauty of the car. They should have used these rims....ruclips.net/video/zUXjv3jO0UQ/видео.html
Nio is dying. All that money spent on battery swapping technology that will become pointless in the not too distant future.
They have six giant automakers who have agreed to join nio's network. Not sure what you're smoking. Is this an American, is that the issue?
@@reginald7214 No problem with Chinese companies and the cars are nice. But do have a problem with a company that has almost $5bn debt, losing $35,000 per car sold. And charging, on it's own, will always be a low margin business. No wonder the number of shares outstanding has soared to 2bn.
@@reginald7214 I have no problem with Chinese companies and the cars are nice. But do have a problem with a company that has almost $5bn debt, losing $35,000 per car sold. And charging, on it's own, will always be a low margin business. So it's no wonder the number of shares has soared to 2bn.
@@shoelessjoe428 I don't get it. They'll be faster to profitability than Tesla. Why the whining about infrastructure and r&d? They have 6 automaker partners on swap, plus the government and electric companies for energy arbitrage. They'll be fine.
@@reginald7214 They could have 100 automakers on swap, but the margins will still be tiny - and getting smaller over time as batteries improve. Think of it this way, if you ask anyone who works at a gas station how much they make from selling gas they'll tell you that's it's not much and how they make far more from selling magazines and soft drinks. Now consider that 90% of people's charging will be done at home (increasing over time). Something that can't be done with ice obviously. This makes the economics worse.
What a load of BS 😂