Hammond XK-5 organ vs B3 comparison
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- Опубликовано: 17 сен 2024
- I tried to match XK-5 to the tone of my B3 to the smallest detail.
Tweaked every tone wheel for tone and leakage, every contact of every key, the volumes, the V/C, percussion volume, the travel of the expression pedal etc.
I think I got pretty close so made a vid to demonstrate. The tone wheel set will be available on the Hammond EU site for everyone to download. Sharing is caring right. I like the idea of people cloning their own organ and making it available for people to download.
Any comments or questions are more than welcome. Both organs are going through the same Leslie 147.
Free download of the XK-5 setup here:
bobfridzema.com...
This is precisely how these comparisons should be done. Good job, Bob.
thank you!
Awesome
I have a 57 b3 and a 68 122. Obviously they are going through the same leslie. In a blindfold test, i couldn't tell one from the other. When people say that digital clones are thinner/shrill in the upper octave it is because of the internal/external sim going through a powered monitor, that's what makes it shrill. There is no shrillness when going through a tube leslie.
Couldn’t agree more
This is EXCELLENT! Now, when people nit pick over the slight differences, they need to keep in mind that even vintage Hammonds sounded different one to another, so this is just a natural and yet so subtle difference between your two instruments shown so well here....Thank YOU!, I am sure that took some time to setup!
Thank you, and very true.
Taking a bit of high end off the xk5 would probably do it, but yeah no two Hammond's sound the same. The xk5 really feels like another organ, not a clone.
Just like the inherent differences between the original Hammond models, right down to the individual units, right?
B3 sounds warmer and then I realized it uses tubes. After seeing this I finally get the tube amp craze!
You could definitely process the sounds to match exactly if studio outboard gear allowed, for example, an analog EQ and compressor, I mean pro class A stuff, then you could match the warmth which is already super close. It then comes down to the keyboard feel which I suspect is close.
I think you nailed it! Wow, the XK-5 is a very impressive simulation of the real thing!
Thank you. It really is
Great job showing how the XK-5 is the new B3. I used it in the studio over two dozens session in the last months and no one from the artist to the master engineer did not believe it was not a real B3.
Hammond XK5 is realy a fantastic instrument.
Agreed :)
What an incredible demo - and sound! Im amazed at how real these keyboards sound
Great comparison. You did a good job at matching volumes. Thanks, so much.
thank you!
Beautiful sound from both instruments.
so close, thx for your work. amazing !
No comparisons... both beautiful!
Jesus, both sound heavenly!
Amazing! Very similar. The XK-5 still seems to sound a little bit brighter to me, but there is certainly a B3 out there which sounds a little bit brighter than yours as well.
Yeah, thanks for listening. there's also a difference in the upper manual vs. lower manual. Luckily it's a matter of rolling down the high end a bit overall and it's there.
My 71 B3's top manual had noticeably more treble than the bottom one. It was almost like 2 different organs.
Great job and video. The xk5 sounds great.
The difference is absolutely minuscule. About as much difference as you'd get between 2 Hammond tonewheel organs.
My thoughts exactly, the original tonewheel organs can vary a lot
Makes for a nice three manual B3, that's for sure. You did a real nice on the tweaking.
Thanks :) Yeah more is more right ;)
Awesome comparison. The B3 sounds a tad better especially with the fast leslie sounds, but not sure if it is 440lbs better.
Great comparison video. Top job
Great!!! Thank you very much for sharing this great tonewheel set with us!!! I´m Looking Forward to test ist with my brand new XK-5 and my 147 ...
I guess with this set the XK-5 sounds even better than my B3 and many of the other real B3s in the world … Thank you!!
My pleasure. Glad you like it :)
2:42 he started playing Billie jean😂
Wonderful comparison 👍😎🥰
Great sounding.......I have the XK 3 and toyed wth moving up.....The clone is good, there's just something about sitting behind my B-3. And B-3's have a wide variance (I have 3). The newer ones are brighter.....the older mellower, until you change out the caps. Thanks for your time and talent......and a bunch of patience I'd imagine.
Thank you sir. Yeah I've played a lot of B3's and C3's and they're all different aren't they. Thanks for listening :)
Turn down the high frequencies a tad on the xk5, and no one would be able to tell. The real deal just sounds a little warmer.
You must have golden ears.They are more identical than this B3 will be with another B3.;-)))).
Great job! The organ engine in the XK5, and now also in the SK Pro, is the closest any clone has come yet. You've brought even closer, and to your own B3. Very cool.
Looks like somebody’s never heard of the HX3 or the Mojo.
This is a wonderfully useful comparison. I'm definitely in the camp that feels the real 147 is the x-factor. If I buy the XK-5, it'd be for live stuff, which means I'd be using the Leslie sim. If it was going to be a home-bound setup, I'd probably just get an actual B3. So given that the Leslie sim is as subpar as every other one, the north-of-8k price tag for the XK-5 starts to feel excessive. If you get a chance to do real-B3-and-real-Leslie versus your best shot at the internal sim, I think that'd be the Holy Grail of comparisons for this beast!
If I have time I might
I've subscribed and will keep a hopeful eye out.
I'd like to hear the xk5 thru a Neo vent with a pair of QSC KW speakers and a 18" sub....
Yeh! I'm impressed.
I'm like a salivating wolf... I have the xk-3c (and a 3300), which has served me well. Everyone agrees the xk-5 is better, but the question is, is it enough to make the jump. For me it is. Even if my wife doesn't understand. You're video is the perfect sample, thanks!... and I've watched several. When my wife freaks, I'm gonna blame you and your video, lol.
Haha glad I could 'help'
Well if i really loved my wife i would buy her a XK5...and hopes she lets me use it.
Funny thing with me: I wanted to play in bands because of Jon Lord's Hammond sound. Never had a chance to play real Hammond back in those days. Played in some bands but only with borrowed Jumps and Roland's which wasn't my cup of tea. I always dreamed about having the Hammonds.
Jump about 40 years and I started to slowly purchasing gear for my studio I plan to build when I retire. Bought several top notch keyboards, synths, outboard recording gear and stuff.
And just few weeks ago I realized that the main piece that made me want to do this, is still missing. Gotta fix that asap.
To me, this XK-5 instrument is pretty damn close to the original, if there's a slight difference, there's always outboard gear to adjust it. I played it at Sweetwater the other day, and I love the keybed in that thing.
I will most certainly get it because the real thing is not only heavy and bulky but out of my reach financially, and I think no one will know the difference anyway when it's on the record (if anyone will ever listen to my stuff) because it's almost non-existent.
Great job on the demonstration
Excelente musica, nunca pasara de moda, gracias por compartirla.
still sounds a little bit better the b3. You can feel a warmer tone in b3
No different than playing a 50's vs. 70's red cap B3. 50's will sound warmer. If you put 4 B3's and an XK5 in a blindfold test you wouldn't be able to tell the XK5 from the 4 B3's.
Well done
Great stuff!
Real B3 for living room, XK5 for stage!
That’s basically what I do. Until I’m in a position to comfortably tour a B3
Amazing how far synthesis of a real Hammond has come.
Yeah it's scarily close nowadays isn't it
Thanks a lot for the demo. I’d challenge anyone who’s not a veteran B3 player to detect the difference in a bind test. Likely, not even very experienced players can.
thedevilstone thanks. Yeah it’s very close these days
Although I think the "real deal" sounds better and obviously more authentic, I would probably still get the XK5 if I had the money because those old instruments seem to malfunction all the time...
Nice!
You could attribute the difference in dynamic sound to the sound of the different solder composition in the B3 to the XK5. There is a distinctive silver solder sound to the XK5 which emphasizes the upper midrange with less internal dampening than the lead in the vintage solder which gives more warmth to the lower midrange with more internal dampening of potential glare in the upper midrange ; so it speaks with a voice where the melody is easier to follow. If you try to tone down the XK5 then it will loose the upper harmonics on the attack so it is a battle to tone it down to get the warmth of the B3 without losing the dynamic top end. I hear this as well when listening to vintage synths and tube amplifiers recreations using the exact circuits and components but different solder compositions. The effect of the solder is you want to open up your hearing with the old warm sound whereas when the glare of the upper midrange is excited with the silver solder your whole body tightens up a bit and you are less receptive to what is being played.
Really, on a digital organ?
are you high?
@@BobFridzema Yes because the digital is converted to analog at some point in the synthesis chain and those circuits even if they use a vacuum tube devices need to be soldered and currently to comply with lead free regulations they have to use more brittle silver solder. I build tube amps and using old lead solder versus new non lead silver solder you hear this tendency for the upper mids to take on a slight glare. Similarly with speaker crossovers it is always a balance to try and tone down the glare without loosing the midrange presence or liveliness. There are expensive ternary eutectic Tin/Silver/Copper solders that sound more neutral but only if the base metals that are being soldered are well controlled. Leaded solder is not more neutral but is more damped and that is what we grew up listening to.
@@paulshim4170 Yeah sorry, I think there's so many other elements in play that have a far greater impact on the sound than the type of solder used. Thanks for your input but I respectfully disagree this plays a significant part.
Simplemente clásicos Hammond lo mejor
From a Hammond fan- boy, I’m glad there are alternatives out there for musicians that don’t want to hire a moving crew to play keys. I think it sounds great. Is it as good as my dad’s B3 with a high boy Leslie hot Rodded out with dual fender showman amps? No. But it’s damn great.
Have you seen the Viscount Legends?
You might want to check those out.
They are very impressive.
The double keyboard head (same as B3) is about 46 lbs!
The entire weight of the head, full bass pedal-board and legs kit is about 140lbs or so.
But as it all is in pieces, it's easy to cart out to the SUV.
As for sound, there are also comparison videos of B3 and Legends.
IMPRESSIVE!
I could not separate them, they are nearly the same organ tune.
Yeah, no discernible difference to me
It truly sounds awesome and indistinguishable HOWEVER (there's always that but.....) both are going through a real tube leslie. Where the XK5 becomes ordinary is when the internal leslie is used. I wish they would get their leslie to even be in the same league as a Ventilator. Also, I wish they would get their price down to something reasonable. Soundwise through a real leslie, probably the best clone out there.
Thanks, and yeah totally agree with your comment.
Although I’m not sure a digital Leslie sim could ever replicate the feeling of a real Leslie moving air in the room. But yeah definite room for improvement there. I always bring my Leslie and if I can’t I’ve got the Neo Vent as a backup.
@@BobFridzema It is more than moving air. A Leslie just has more dynamics than a simulator. Thanks so much for your work here.
@@paulallison8410 I agree - dynamic range is my biggest issue with digital equipment
@@BobFridzema That was my problem with the mini-mag maybe never notice it in certain situations but in a RnR context it was lacking. Might have been different with ears in. By the way you are a smokin' player wish I knew half of those licks! Thanks
Paul Allison thank you sir, I really appreciate that :)
At the higher notes they sound a bit different, but it's a great job, anyway
Great vid and great job too! You got that XK-5 SUPER CLOSE! Id like to do the same with my XK3-c if possible
Not possible with the washiness of the 3c C/V. I wish Hammond would have spent more time updating the C/V and the Leslie on the 3c.
Jim Alfredson was able to do it with a XK3 in this video here though ruclips.net/video/Ueiay9P6-fM/видео.html
Yeah I think the xk3c is tweakable enough to get pretty close. Not perfect but pretty close
Thanks Bob! Any suggestions as to how? Thanks
+Curt Holloman Well, put it on top of a real tonewheel organ and go through all the settings one by one. I started with the custom tone wheels. Dial em in one drawbar at a time. Then on to contacts, percussion, then v/c. Then back and forth a few times to perfect it.
Takes a while but that's it
great b3
Excellent work Bob! With my normal hearing, and Sony headphones they sound real close! close enough to satisfy me, I bought an XK1C to start learning to play the organ. I thought it sounded good! Three months ago I should it and bought the XK5 and the lower council I love it! I have been using a bass amp trying to decide which leslie I wanted. As they are only for home use I ordered the Hammond leslie Studio 12W about six weeks ago, no one has them, and they are nor anticipated to ship before mid April. Have you used the studio 12 with your B3 or XK5? if sou what do you think about it? I ignore the XK5 "haters" as far as i am concerned this is a Hammond organ in every sense of the word and not a "clone"
Thanks for your comment. Never used the Studio 12 no, I am very curious about it actually. I'm still using an old 147 and a 145 leslie. Let me know if you get your hands on one :)
Is the portable b3 a real thing and if so is it just a b3 without the cabinetry?
A B3 without it’s cabinetry is still too heavy to call it ‘portable’. There is a modern built Hammond B3 portable, which is digital, and still quite heavy.
The closest you’ll get to a portable B3 would be the full XK5 system imho
VERY VERY close.. just a bit warmer/fatter in certain parts on the B3.. most of the parts I can't even tell the difference .. I closed my eyes and listened and was wrong 1/2 the time.. the full chords in lower octaves sound a bit warmer on the B3... all in all though... incredible simulation... and a lot easier to carry in the lower manual (20 lbs) and upper XK 5 (40 lbs?) to a gig... side story.. I was pricing out a utility trailer and Kari organ moving dolly set so I could bring my A 100 to gigs.. and it was like 2000 bucks.. so I bought a lower manual instead for about the same.. and now I can carry the whole B3 in under both arms :)
Hi Bob! Thank you for an excellent comparation, and your preset! Please, may I ask you two question:
- how would you compare keys on XK5 and B3?
- from today's point of view, is it still reasonable to buy B3 or this model, if we speak about maintaining, portability, etc?
Thank you!
Gorantovic thanks.
- they’re very close. Not the same, but I feel I can play the xk5 very much in the same way as I play my B3.
- I will never sell my B3, there’s something about a vintage instrument. As much as I love the xk5 it doesn’t have that same mojo. Having said that, I don’t tour my B3 - I tour the xk5 and I love that for several reasons; the lighter weight, the reliability on the road, and the ability to dial in reverb and custom tone wheel sets as the gig might require
Not entirely familiar with the Leslie input characteristics -- how did you run both into the 147 (I've also got a '58 B3 and 147 and am curious). And when you gig, is the digital 147 sufficient for your taste (I believe the XK-5 has 122 and 147 settings?)
Gregory Junker I do not use the internal Leslie of the XK5. If I go out without a real Leslie I use the neo ventilator atm. Nothing else comes close imho
For both of them to go thru the Leslie I used a custom setup, similar to a combo preamp.
@@BobFridzema Thanks -- are you saying that the internal Leslie simply doesn't have it, or that you haven't looked into it too hard because the Vent already works fine? I'm thinking that it would suck to have to spend another $500 on a Leslie simulator just because Hammond couldn't be bothered to put in the same effort that Neo did. ;)
I have a xk3-c might be time to upgrade
Bonjour, tout le monde dit que le son du XK5 est meilleurs que celui du SKX pro, pourquoi puisque c'est le même générateur "Modelled Tone Wheel 1" (MTW1) , merci pour vos réponses
Hello, everyone says that the sound of the XK5 is better than that of the SKX pro, why since it is the same generator "Modelled Tone Wheel 1" (MTW1), thank you for your answers, have a good day
It’s my understanding their engine is basically the same so I don’t think one will sound better than the other
The digital Hammond clears lacks that certain je ne sais quoi.
OK, now you went over the French border. Not really a clear difference. I've been in bands with B3's for decades and the differences are audibly indiscernible. The big differences are in the touch, action, and double keyboard that requires an XK-5-Heritage model (but still lacks bass pedals-for $4K more). Also, Bob didn't really give us a comparison on the nice "growl" of a physical tone wheel compared to the digital version's approximation. And FWIW, it's still a Hammond and not a Nord, Yamaha, Roland, Crumar, or Dixibell.
@@IMCcanTWEESTED I was just pretending to be stupid. It helps me to blend in with the multitudes.
Excellent comparison. For a studio keyboard player looking for a better sounding B3 sound and a better keyboard to play it with I'd say the XK-5 would do the trick. Perhaps for an upgrade even in the studio for listening and maybe recording a new small Leslie Studio 12+ Rotary Combo Amp. Also since this review it seems like Hammond has released the SKX Dual Manual 61 and even newer SKpro which Hammond says uses the XK-5 sound but with simulated water fall keyboard effect, but not mechanical keyboard applied. So now I have 3 choices to choose from. I am thinking the XK-5 still is the best close copy as the newer SKX and SKpro models expand into additional keyboard sounds and do not dedicate to the B3 copy as much. Thoughts?
The XK-5 is the most authentic B3 copy out there right now. If that’s what you want it’s really the only one to go for.
The SKX uses an older sound engine, and the SK Pro is more aimed to be workhorse tang also covers piano and other sounds.
Pure B3 copy the XK5 is the one :) having said that, the SK Pro could be ideal if you’re not a pure Hammond player but need more of an all round keyboard
@@BobFridzema Thanks for the reply. Yea Agreed, I'd go for the most authentic B3 copy as it becomes an instrument and not as much of a convenience sample player which have their place. There are wonderful sampled pianos and electric pianos available already via sample libraries and sophisticated controllers, but the combination of the XK-5 mechanical waterfallish keyboard, editable settings to closely match the B3 characteristics, make it a instrument of uniqueness. You've got great ears and chops to closely match volume and settings of B3 to XK-5. Great work there and keep it up.
Pat Rickey thanks!
@@BobFridzema Update, been demoing the Hammond B3-X plug in developed by Hammond and IK MultiMedia. It is fantastic. I am told the Leslie Sim is the best Leslie Sim available and it does sounds great. Though unable to test this, the plug-in has a profiles so that Hammond organs can control the plug ins settings like drawbars, all switches, Leslie on, etc... I am told by Hammond artists that the sounds matches the XK-5 and that the Leslie Sim on the B3-X plug in exceeds the Leslie Sim on both the Vent pedal, which many had been using, and XK-5 itself. I would highly recommend demoing the IK MultiMedia B#-X as I think you would love it and the trial-demo is full functioning for the 10 day demo period. I would love to see you demo it on You Tube. There are not many good demos yet on it.
downpatmusic hi pat,
To be honest I’m not really in it to demo things, I’m a player first so not sure if I’ll get around to doing this. I might give it a go but I do prefer my Hammond experience to be on a hardware board vs coming from a computer plugin. Latency, reliability, and I’m old fashioned I guess. But hey who knows, maybe I’ll give it a go one day
Can't hear the difference through my JBL!
Impressive.
Tell yah what .. I'd challenge anyone in a "club" full of noisey drinking people to notice any difference at all! ;-) I think you've succeeded very well!
thank you!
I personally like to think the "brightness" in the Hammond XK organs is because of the high setting of the mid-range crossover in the menu. If you set that crossover down to about 250, I think it really does help a lot in making everything sound more natural.
I think that only applies to the internal Leslie sim? Which is bypassed here because I'm going straight in the 147 Leslie
Bob Fridzema I play my Hammond through a custom Leslie and I tweaked the mid- crossover which overrides not only over direct line out but as well as the internal sim.
+Onri Jay I'm not sure I follow. I hook up my xk-5 via the 11 pin connector. The crossover setting doesn't apply
Bob Fridzema There's a crossover adjustment under the EQUALIZER settings in the menu. Setting the master equalizer for the mid-turnover frequency down to 250Hz will help the Hammond sound less bright because what your doing by this is modifying the signal before it gets sent to the Leslie.
Bob Fridzema If you need help locating it, go to page 75 on your Hammond XK-5 Owner's Manual.
Hammond B3’s kid sister!
Sounds great!!! Can I still get the settings for my Xk5? Thanks for sharing.
Absolutely, the link to the tonewheel setup file is in the description. Thank you!
Great sounds from both instruments,but then, Hammond organs are killer.
Bob, great demo! Thanks for making this video. This may seem like a minor point but how did you get that intense tremolo sound with the leslie on the high speed ( around 1:35 ) Did it have to do with microphone positioning? thanks Harry
Thanks yeah I believe it is. It happens to be a sound I really love. But yeah it’s one 57 pointed right at the horn.
Also, I have the deflectors removed so it makes for a stronger ‘chop’
I've had both. I like the x better. Much easier on the back.
impressive and not to take anything away from you as i have and xk3 i just wondered how long this took you with minute tweaking
Thanks sir. About a full working day I reckon - but done over the course of a few days. Now I know the xk5 a lot better I probably have a quicker way of working if I would do it again
Fantastic demo. Sounds almost identical. My question is, how in the heck do you learn how to customize the tonewheels and contacts?! That looks way too complex to attempt. I've adjusted most of the other parameters and am super happy with the sound so far.
Hmm it wasn’t difficult, just tedious. Pull out one drawbar at a time, play all notes and make sure both devices sound the same by tweaking the parameters. The XK5 will show you exactly which tonewheel you’re hearing by playing one note, while pulling out a drawbar at the same time
That makes sense, thanks. I don't have a tonewheel organ to compare it to. We'll see if I get around to messing with the tonewheels. I've changed most of the other parameters and it's really optimized it to my taste so far.
Have you compared the XK-5 to the SK lineup or the XK1c?
Not like this no, although I’ve played em in the past
i will sell my car and by an Hammond XK5 :)
I sadly haven’t got that luxury. No car.
Have fun riding that organ to work!
Ik heb een portable new b3. Hoe vind je de XK-5 ten op zichte van de portable new b3?
Ik denk dat de XK5 beter is eerlijk gezegd, maar we hebben het wel over kleine verschillen.
Maar de sound engine is een flink aantal jaren nieuwer, en het speelt en voelt goed. Plus een stuk meer 'portable' dan de B3p 😉
Dank je wel voor je antwoord. Ik ben aan het overwegen om hem te verkopen en XK-5 te komen, vanwege het gesjouw inderdaad.
+Sjaak Lammers kan me iets bij voorstellen. Ik gebruik m met het tweede toetsenbord erbij ook, maar dan is ie nog steeds lichter denk ik
Dont remember the name of the first song Anybody?
“You don’t love me”
Excellent video! already in love with my own XK5 myself :) btw, how did you hook the XK5 to the 147 exactly?
The 147 is modified to 11 pin
Nice move...but that means your B3 had to be modified too...
+Adi Degani well, I just added an 11 pin next to the other Leslie outputs.
Much as I would adore having a bonafide B3 if I could afford one, I think ipI would first aim for an organ model which I could take to any gig.
Got to dig the NJ tribute. Were you playing a split patch on the 5?
ShreadTheWeapon totally agree - B3’s aren’t exactly easy to move around. The XK5 could be what you’re looking for.
Didn’t split the 5 no, I think it’s a basic 808000000 on both organs.
I appreciate the clarification, Bob. Thumbs up!
How would I go about tweaking my xk5 the way you tweaked yours? Sounds just like the b3!!!
Thanks! There’s a download link to the setup file in the description of the vid. If you load that into your xk5 you’ll get exactly this sound, and you can see all the tweaks I made
@@BobFridzema Thanks, that's very nice, good Karma, may you get the best gigs and crowds for this gesture and help!
Try to compare them on overload
hallo Bob, prachtige sound en hoort identiek aan de b3vind je zelf dat er nog verschillen zijn tussen vintage sound en de xk 5 ?
Er zijn nog wat kleine verschillen, unieke dingetjes zoals vuil in de toetscontacten, hoe de buizen reageren want die zijn nogal oud etc. Maar qua gevoel en sound is het 99% daar wat mij betreft. En dat speelgevoel merk je meteen
I want to learn those scales!! How can i do?
An easy way to do that is to watch the video at 1/4 speed and just copy where the fingers are.
Then as you get used to the fingering, increase speed as needed.
Thanks for the comparison can the XK5 emulate that of a B200 thanks.
It's not designed to emulate a b200. Although I'm sure it could come close
Why do you want it to sound like an inferior organ, if you can have the real B3 sound?
The B200 is just a bad compromise for anyone who wants a tonewheel organ but can’t afford a real B3(including me of course..)
Ro Lux in the Latin community the B200 is the most used and they prefer the sounds to emulate the artist that used it.
Was your original B3 rebuilt at some point or does it have the original capacitors? What year was it built?
it had work done to it way before I got it, but as far as I can tell it's got original capacitors in the generator. I believe it's from '59
Hey Bob. I can't get the file to load on my thumb drive. It shows the name but there is no file on the stick. I give up thanks for trying. I formatted it twice on the computer and once on the XK5 but no luck getting it on the thumb drive. I appreciate your patience. You might try down loading from your post and see if you can get it to download. Have a great day.
Sorry to hear that. I know it works coz I've done it myself as recent as a few weeks ago.
Were both instruments playing on the same Leslie speaker?
Yes
400 pound real Hammond no longer needed
What song is that around 2:48? Is that anything famous, or just improvised. It seems familiar. The Doors?
That's Billy Jean actually :)
Bob Fridzema Haha, ohhhhh, now I hear it. Now it sounds like The Doors covering Billy Jean. Just need a Rhodes piano bass for the left hand. :-D
Play my xk5 trough vent2,, xk5 is the beast.. But you must work on detail, if you want top result.
moreno pletikosic I used the xk5 straight out of the box for a good year before I started tweaking to be honest. But yeah you can def take it to a new level then
Great Job Bob. I just go to the Hammond site under XK5 downloads and download the update system to a flash drive and plug it in the XK5 and it will prompt me through the process? Are there certain files in that down load specifically I need to download or will everything download on it's own?
I think Hammond has changed their website so at the moment I can't tell you for sure. Right now I can't find my tonewheel set on the website.
Normally I would say though that yes all the files (just one, a .set file) are in the download, which you load onto a USB stick the XK-5 will recognise. For a setup file all you have to do is find 'Load' in the menu and locate the file on the USB stick.
I've just changed the link in the bio - it now directs you straight to the setup file you can load with the XK-5 and a USB stick :) Good luck
@@BobFridzema Thanks Bob. Your time and effort is greatly appreciated.
It said no file found maybe I’ll try reloading the file again on the thumb drive
Does it say display setup 1 on the organ screen?
It’s only one manual!
So? If you see my other videos you'll see I've got the lower manual. Wouldnt fit on top of the B3 though 😉
Some Difference
Keep in mind their both hammands..xk5 isn't a clone
Exactly right Ray some of these B3 guys need to get over theirselves! The Hammond XK5 is a digital "tone" wheel organ period! It's like the old film photography to digital photography was an improvement, or analog T.V to HDTV an improvement, a classic Corvette to a C7, an improvement. This is a digital world we live in the technology makes products better not worse! The Hammond B3's are the Classic organs! They still sound great, but to think nothing will ever be as good or better is mainly because they have been hearing that sound for 30, 40, 50 or more years and they're fixated on it. I am not a professional musician, and only have normal hearing, I bought a XK5 3 months ago and love it! And there so many adjustments, options possibilities that you don't have with the B3! Peace Ray!
hoe laadt / uploadt je jouw specifieke setup in de xk-5 ?
Moet je even kijken op de Hammond site, maar in principe is het een kwestie van een USB stick formatteren met de xk5 en dan het setup bestand in de goeie map zetten.
Sounds close to the B 3 one should play some music instead of just noises
geoff scott haha just noises? You need better speakers mate
Sound exactly alike. no difference.
B3 is more lively, guesses with closed eyes.
je had de b3 en de xk 5 op dezelfde leslie (122 ?) aangesloten ?
147 maar idd door dezelfde leslie
The B3 is better
the real hammond has more click
out the box the xk5 is garbage! if your a chemist and have the time to tweet it, its not bad. im a musician not a computer programmer!
I respectfully disagree. Played the XK5 out of the box for a year before I tweaked anything. Curious what your setup is when you play it.
But how about you go to the Hammond site and download the custom tonewheel set I'm using here?
Great job!
Dont remember the name of the first song Anybody?