And when they shoehorned a modern press box on top of it, it created arguably the worst seats for sale imaginable. There are still seats you can get right next to the press box in which you can only see the end zone. All time engineering fail.
I feel bad for Penn and Yale. Those ivy league schools dominated so much in the early years of College Football. But once schools like Michigan, Ohio State, Nebraska etc. started making their own history ivy league schools for football just couldn’t compete with them.
I went to Miami University (Ohio) tickets were free for students and dirty cheap for everyone else. The stadium has more seats than students enrollment and rarely sells out. It Ohio State is playing a game at the same time even less people go to the MU game.
People have more things to do in large cities like Los Angeles and Miami. College football is only really big in small college towns in predominantly rural states.
@@MirzaAhmed89 Washington Huskies games are always well-attended, and that's right near Seattle. I think it has more to do with the current success of the program.
I have two things to add to your fine video: 1) the biggest event at Penn Stadium is the annual Penn Relays track and field event, which do sell out; and 2) the very concept of "bowl" football games - including the Super Bowl - was inspired by the Yale Bowl.
I'm fortunate to be a season ticket holder at Michigan Stadium where we have had over 100,000 in attendance at every game since near the end of the 1975 season. Luckily, most of those years we have been pretty good, but even in down years fans still show up and the 100,000 streak continues at over 300 consecutive games now (not counting 2020 when crowds were not allowed due to COVID).
4:02: Franklin Field was also the home of the Philadelphia Eagles from 1958-1970. It was at Franklin Field that the Eagles fans threw snowballs at Santa Claus in a famous incident.
@@stephaniegormley9982 The title is a little off in that regard, yes. That would be more accurate. Look at how big Michigan Stadium has been expanded to and then fill it up.
On a similar note, I am from Southern California. Back in the 60's and 70's Junior Colleges built massive stadiums for their teams. Perhaps, they thought JC programs will pack in the fans. My local JC has close to a 10,000 seat stadium but only 500 people show up. So odd.
Grew up in Oxford, maybe 15 miles away. I went to several Yale-UConn games there growing up, and saw Yale play a few other Ivies as well. I even saw a couple Giants-Cowboys games there when Yale Bowl served as a temporary home for the Giants while the original Yankee Stadium was being redone in the early 70s.
As much as I respect the history of the Sun Bowl Game, when is the last time it actually sold out? I feel like it tends to be an afterthought in the CFP era
Cool thing about the sun bowl is that the bowl game played there is actually the second oldest bowl game. Usually doesn't sell out since it isn't that big of a game, but it did this past year in less than a week since Notre Dame was there.
I never expected UCLA and Cal to be on this list. I honestly didn't know what to expect. I also never knew that UCLA didn't draw a USC sized crowd. Excellent video👏🏻👍🏻
@edmerc92 no wonder why. That would be like LSU traveling to the Superdome to play every game and while LSU fans travel well, who wants to deal with traffic going to New Orleans and or leaving Baton Rouge. That's crazy.
another could be someone like pitt playing in the steelers stadium they can’t even manage to fill the upper bowl as a ranked team, and when they do it’s because visiting fans fill them
These stadiums aren't too big for College Football necessarily. They're just too big for the teams that play in them except the Rose Bowl. It may be a too big for UCLA to fill it at the present time, but the place was packed for the Michigan-Alabama playoff game, and reducing the capacity would be a mistake because it would probably take it off the list of hosting playoff games if they do.
@@Denozo88if you know the history of the rose bowl and its significance every year, then yes. Personally I’d like to see it become the stadium for the championship game every year
I think you mean to say largeest crowds for sporting events in the world. Between the sheer number of teams playing to the rest of the world's sporting leagues hardly having a fraction of the stadiums that hold similar numbers of people at their top levels, there really isn't a comparison. That even is when you consider the smaller collegiate teams, from DI to DIII and the JUCOs, etc.
Sad to see what's happening with the Yale Bowl. That's a gorgeous venue. The NFL Eagles played at Franklin Field from 1958 to 1970, but during that period they weren't very good.
I wonder if in the new NIL world, if the big 3 or 4 Ivy League schools (Yale, Penn, Harvard and maybe Princeton) would ever consider trying to g to play big time FBS football again? They all have the endowments to play. With the academic big boys like Notre Dame or Duke. It’s a bit odd that in the 1950s they all made a decision to dial it back, which is when the decline began.
I thought the Memphis Tennessee Liberty Bowl might be mentioned, it seats about 60,000 but the college Memphis Tigers doesn’t remotely fill half of that. The stadium was built in the 1960’s hoping to attract an NFL team that never came.
Technically, an NFL team did come to the Liberty Bowl for one season, 1997, when the Houston Oilers moved to Tennessee. Because a suitable facility was not available in Nashville, their ultimate destination, they played one year in Memphis at the Liberty Bowl.
In college football, you have about 60 to 70 teams that can fill these big stadiums but the majority simply can't.....looking back to the Ivy league, when they built those stadiums there was no NFL and the Ivy league was a major force in college football. These days.......I wish the Ivy league would relax their rules a little concerning football
Putting Penn/Franklin Field on here would be like putting Temple/Lincoln Financial on here. Franklin Field is a track and field venue that happens to host college football as well. Penn Relays easily fill Franklin Field.
Its always been a football stadium their football stadium, there not playing in another teams venue, it always was theirs and from my research the relays only fill half anyway.
@@forgottenplaces9780 Your research is wrong. The stadium regularly fills 50k+ for the Relays with a complicity of 54k. The stadium was built for the school with The Relays being the first event held there for a reason.
@@smokeymchaggis73 doubt it, a simple google search of the penn relays will show you a half empty stadium sometimes more… why dont you actually check things before commenting and saying im wrong and its not complicity its capacity…
@@forgottenplaces9780 Are those pictures for the events that happen during the day during the week? It's a 3 day event with over 300 competitions with thursday-saturday bringing in over 100k people with saturday being over 50k. I live here for 40 years and know the event. The stadium was literally opened for The Relays. You looked at some pictures and decided you know it all. ffs.
@@forgottenplaces9780 Are those pictures for the events that happen during the day during the week? It's a 3 day event with over 300 competitions with thursday-saturday bringing in over 100k people with saturday being over 50k. I live here for 40 years and know the event. The stadium was literally opened for The Relays. You looked at some pictures and decided you know it all. ffs.
@@raidger4 no its not, it serves as the home of ucla many more times a year than the rose bowl. If they were so satisfied w the capacity they wouldnt be taking out 20k seats…
@@forgottenplaces9780 since 1982 and was built solely for the Rose Bowl game. It is literally where the bowl game was conceived..it is also a registered national landmark. There is no way it is too big or that it will ever change capacities. It is on UCLA to move. Come on dude.
A lot of college stadiums capacities are inflated by the fact they still have metal benches. If these places switched to seats it would reduce the capacity
Cal averages fewer fans than Rutgers, Central Florida, and Fresno State. Their attendance is terrible, especially given the size of the school and the huge local population.
@@PCSPounder Which I as a wrestling fan used to call the WCW Maneuver and now call it the AEW Maneuver. (4000 fans IS a lot of people to attend a wrestling show but looks pathetic in an NBA arena, which is what Tony Khan was booking the shows in until recently because the STAGE was too big for the small arenas, apparently.)
I get it’s probably hard to find land in LA but like wouldn’t it be cooler if USC and UCLA had their own stadiums, not just moving into the coliseum and the rose bowl. They could make them sized to what they can expect in attendance and have it be more theirs
USC only played about 30 years at a different venue prior to the Coliseum being built literally on their campus. UCLA is a different story. They have a stadium on campus, but it seats less than 12k and students back in the 60s voted two to one against a much larger on-campus proposal.
UCLA would probably have more fans at games if they had a stadium on campus. The Rose Bowl is like 26 miles, in LA traffic that's easily 1 hour drive and 3 hours public transit one way. Not too many college students trying to do that, most college students don't drive.
UCLA campus is surrounded by some of the richest and most exclusive neighborhoods in the US. Zero chance they ever build a major stadium there. USC campus is surrounded by working class, sketchy and gentrified neighborhoods. You can and will build a lot there, especially for LA’28. Ironically, UCLA is the state school and USC is a private school known for a rich student body.
Can't believe you bring up Franklin Field and don't mention The Penn Relays ONCE! It's an extremely prestigious track event that features All Americans, Olympians, and nearly capacity crowds. Franklin Field is a track and field stadium with a football field in it
Begs a question… did Philadelphia try to bring the World Track & Field Championships to Franklin? Is the track to international dimensions? I know the new Hayward Field in Eugene is a modern marvel, but the Worlds usually take place in larger venues and Franklin seems like a place to try.
@@forgottenplaces9780 Franklin Field isn't exclusively a football stadium though, and not mentioning the biggest event the venue hosts is missing context that explains why some aspects of it are the way they are. It would be like bringing up the Rose Bowl as UCLA's field and not mentioning how it hosts the Rose Bowl. It's just good context to have
@@PCSPounder Ever since new Hayward field opened in 2021 it became really hard to justify hosting national / international events in the US anywhere else. It's the newest nicest, and pretty much only purpose built exclusive track and field facility. Also location is very important for those events, they exclusively have them in the Midwest or PNW for weather reasons. Its why Texas' Myers stadium has never hosted an Olympics trials despite being a nice facility
@@forgottenplaces9780 U2 literally filmed their 360 tour concert film at the Rose bowl in 09. While there wasn't necessarily a better option at the time, they would still go there today due to being able to sell out that size as one of the most successful acts of all time and due to its historical nature.
The Rose Bowl is too big for UCLA. They should have a new stadium that has a maximum capacity of 60,000. The same should go for Miami who should a new stadium that has a maximum capacity from 55-60K.
Agree I feel the main issue for UCLA and Miami are their Stadiums are both over 30 minute drives away from campus have a Stadium on Campus the students will show up.
El Paso to have a stadium as big as the Sun Bowl is a mistake. They don’t have the population or industry that will allow a sellout of such events. Memorial Stadium in Berkeley is one Earthquake away from being torn down naturally. The stadium is built on an Earthquake fault.
So do Notre Dame, Michigan, Texas, and many other schools with more-selective entrance requirements. Also, don’t believe that the players at elite schools would come anywhere close to meeting the average GPA & test scores at their respective universities. See: Beast Mode & DeSean Jackson at Cal.
@@canoone1975 *cough* don't forget Florida *cough* Just because they're in the SEC, doesn't mean they aren't rated as one of if not the highest rated public institutions nationally. It is literally them, Vandy, and now UT pulling the rest of the SEC along with them when it comes to academics.
For the Rose Bowl I can only say that if USC managed to justify renovating a stadium as historic as the Coliseum, then maybe they could do a similar renovation on the press box side. And I can see _maybe_ a good string of recruiting-slash-transfers getting them back up to first tier. But they'd _still_ have to reduce to 80 thousand and tarp off 10 thousand for nearly every game in my opinion. And I get Cal on an average attendance basis but I don't think you can really reduce it because of one thing -- The Big Game. It feels like that can sell out this venue even when the Cardinal and the Bears are coming into it 3-8 and 2-9. Again, though, most games they can probably tarp off the end zones above the gates. It's always so strange to think about how much of a gap there is between the Michigans and the Notre Dames of the game and even the UCFs let alone the Penns. And it's also always so wild to realize that the _real_ big ticket college teams look down on pretty much every NFL stadium for being too _small._ But that's a completely different vibe anyway -- and it's funny how my NFL team's stadium (Highmark) is often derided as "it just feels like a college stadium". While actually having one of the bigger capacities, come to think of it, in the NFL.
The second phase of the Rose Bowl renovation plan is to reduce to under 72,000 seats by lengthening leg room in each row. That’s needed, but it’s not scheduled to happen until after the Olympics AND after sufficient funds are raised. I’ve been in Drake Stadium on campus for soccer (a newer soccer complex now exists; the stadium is primarily the track stadium). It looks bigger than 11,000. And if there’s space for a new track (not an easy thing in Westwood), an on-campus stadium seems more appropriate for them. Probably space for no more than 35-40K if they build up more than out (see Providence Park, Portland), but since their Rose Bowl attendance is fudged anyway (except for the USC game, which perhaps should permanently be in the Rose Bowl if UCLA moves), that might be their wiser course of action.
Can someone explain me please why Ivy League schools have such massive sports programs? Aren't these places all about being intellectual, and about science and all that? Thanks
No, they're about prestige. All colleges are supposed to be intellectual, being institutions of higher learning after all. Ivy League schools were some of the first to have teams, no reason to take them out of D1
College football was a northeastern sport in the earliest days, and the Ivy League schools dominated. That started to change after WW I, and by the end of WW II, those days were truly over.
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The LA Coliseum deserves an honrable mention, even though they reduced its capacity to 77,000.
And when they shoehorned a modern press box on top of it, it created arguably the worst seats for sale imaginable. There are still seats you can get right next to the press box in which you can only see the end zone. All time engineering fail.
I feel bad for Penn and Yale. Those ivy league schools dominated so much in the early years of College Football. But once schools like Michigan, Ohio State, Nebraska etc. started making their own history ivy league schools for football just couldn’t compete with them.
Any stadium that miami (fla) calls home.
When covid hit, hurricane fans already had generations of experience with social distancing.
I went to Miami University (Ohio) tickets were free for students and dirty cheap for everyone else. The stadium has more seats than students enrollment and rarely sells out. It Ohio State is playing a game at the same time even less people go to the MU game.
People have more things to do in large cities like Los Angeles and Miami. College football is only really big in small college towns in predominantly rural states.
@@MirzaAhmed89 Washington Huskies games are always well-attended, and that's right near Seattle. I think it has more to do with the current success of the program.
I have two things to add to your fine video: 1) the biggest event at Penn Stadium is the annual Penn Relays track and field event, which do sell out; and 2) the very concept of "bowl" football games - including the Super Bowl - was inspired by the Yale Bowl.
I'm fortunate to be a season ticket holder at Michigan Stadium where we have had over 100,000 in attendance at every game since near the end of the 1975 season. Luckily, most of those years we have been pretty good, but even in down years fans still show up and the 100,000 streak continues at over 300 consecutive games now (not counting 2020 when crowds were not allowed due to COVID).
4:02: Franklin Field was also the home of the Philadelphia Eagles from 1958-1970. It was at Franklin Field that the Eagles fans threw snowballs at Santa Claus in a famous incident.
The Rose Bowl fills up to capacity every other year when USC goes there to play.
Was about to post that. Also, if you're like me, you end up in the area, you pay then venue a visit. Whenever in the year.
This s/be called "College stadiums to big for THEIR particular team" Ohio State, Bama and a few others at the top could easily fill these every week.
@@stephaniegormley9982 and it will be full soon because of Ohio and Oregon.
@@stephaniegormley9982 The title is a little off in that regard, yes. That would be more accurate. Look at how big Michigan Stadium has been expanded to and then fill it up.
@@DerekWhite-yx2ce you’re correct! Los Angeles fans are fickle only fills stadiums when their teams do well college oe pro!
On a similar note, I am from Southern California. Back in the 60's and 70's Junior Colleges built massive stadiums for their teams. Perhaps, they thought JC programs will pack in the fans. My local JC has close to a 10,000 seat stadium but only 500 people show up. So odd.
How about Rice Stadium?
No doubt.
First one that came to my mind too.
Yeah. Has hosted the Super Bowl. Now is irrelevant. lol
@@SuperSirianRigel That's only because, at the time, the Astrodome had only 50,000. It was considered too small for the Super Bowl.
The upper deck is unstable so it's closed
I think the Yale bowl is cool looking
It’s beautiful. I live a block away, and I really wish that exciting college football took place there.
Grew up in Oxford, maybe 15 miles away. I went to several Yale-UConn games there growing up, and saw Yale play a few other Ivies as well.
I even saw a couple Giants-Cowboys games there when Yale Bowl served as a temporary home for the Giants while the original Yankee Stadium was being redone in the early 70s.
The problem with both the Yale Bowl and the Rose Bowl(which I have watched a game from) is that they are really far away from the field
The Sun Bowl has a bowl game as well. And it is the game that fills out the stadium. Just like the Rose Bowl.
What's the name of the bowl game played at the Sun Bowl? 😏
As much as I respect the history of the Sun Bowl Game, when is the last time it actually sold out? I feel like it tends to be an afterthought in the CFP era
Starting in 2025, the Ivy League can play in the FCS championship.
@@Michael-cz1dbthis year.
@@Michael-cz1db Well it used too. It's still the biggest crowd the Sun Bowl sees every year most likely. lol.
Cool thing about the sun bowl is that the bowl game played there is actually the second oldest bowl game. Usually doesn't sell out since it isn't that big of a game, but it did this past year in less than a week since Notre Dame was there.
Rice Stadium should’ve been an honorable mention. That venue can’t sell out.
One the most beautiful stadiums ever. Not a bad seat in the house. In the 70’s it filled many times. The changes in college football are terrible
If UCLA playing in the Rose Bowl Stadium is too much stadium, picture the days when Cal Tech had a div 3 program that often played there.
Schools should take a look at what Duke is doing. Reduced capacity by adding a nice looking party deck at one end and doesn't charge for parking.
Byrd stadium at Maryland although it's full of Penn State or West Virginia fans when the Terps play those clubs.
I never expected UCLA and Cal to be on this list. I honestly didn't know what to expect. I also never knew that UCLA didn't draw a USC sized crowd. Excellent video👏🏻👍🏻
The problem with the Rose Bowl for UCLA is that it's an hour+ drive from campus. USC has the Coliseum right next door.
@edmerc92 no wonder why. That would be like LSU traveling to the Superdome to play every game and while LSU fans travel well, who wants to deal with traffic going to New Orleans and or leaving Baton Rouge. That's crazy.
Oh man, that Yale Bowl situation is pretty damn sad.
Its worth investing in though. So unique built into the earth. Hopefully they can find a way to make it work for their current needs.
@ Actually I found the way it is sunk into the landscape was pretty damn cool
I can't believe they're still using it! The Yale Bowl never had locker rooms or restrooms!
Dont feel too bad, their alumni go on to make 7 figures a year.
@@davidlafleche1142what? No way!
another could be someone like pitt playing in the steelers stadium
they can’t even manage to fill the upper bowl as a ranked team, and when they do it’s because visiting fans fill them
Agreed. Any time I've been to a Pitt game it's not even half filled
Good stadiums to run monster jam or some type of event like that.
When built, the Ohio stadium was too big … over time it is now too small.
@@geoffreylee5199 no its not lol
@@forgottenplaces9780Every game for the last sixty years was a sell out.
good list. I'm kinda surprised Maryland wasn't on here. that place looks empty every time i see them play
It does do good numbers when teams like Texas and Ohio state come to town.
@@Denozo88 texas hasnt played in college park since 1960 lmao
@m3sh_xd um. Texas has played Maryland this side of 1960 fyi. Last time under the Charlie Strong Era. Thank you very much.
@@Denozo88 not at Maryland's home stadium. They played in Landover in 2018 and at Texas in 2017.
California Memorial Stadium is just downright wrong, sold out the stadium twice this year
and its no small market, when the team is good the stands are packed
@@owenearnhardt7504 5 year avg is well below capacity, and i never said anything about market size
Best view in college football.
These stadiums aren't too big for College Football necessarily. They're just too big for the teams that play in them except the Rose Bowl. It may be a too big for UCLA to fill it at the present time, but the place was packed for the Michigan-Alabama playoff game, and reducing the capacity would be a mistake because it would probably take it off the list of hosting playoff games if they do.
But is the off chance they hold a playoff game worth keeping it at its current size?
@@Denozo88 The Rose Bowl is the most legendary venue in the sport. It will hold playoff games every year.
@edmerc92 and my point stands. Is that one game worth having a stadium that is never full.
@@Denozo88if you know the history of the rose bowl and its significance every year, then yes. Personally I’d like to see it become the stadium for the championship game every year
@alexgreen4361 Yes it a legendary game but your ignoring my point.
I think you mean to say largeest crowds for sporting events in the world. Between the sheer number of teams playing to the rest of the world's sporting leagues hardly having a fraction of the stadiums that hold similar numbers of people at their top levels, there really isn't a comparison. That even is when you consider the smaller collegiate teams, from DI to DIII and the JUCOs, etc.
Sad to see what's happening with the Yale Bowl. That's a gorgeous venue.
The NFL Eagles played at Franklin Field from 1958 to 1970, but during that period they weren't very good.
The Giants briefly played at the Yale Bowl in the 70s
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I wonder if in the new NIL world, if the big 3 or 4 Ivy League schools (Yale, Penn, Harvard and maybe Princeton) would ever consider trying to g to play big time FBS football again? They all have the endowments to play. With the academic big boys like Notre Dame or Duke. It’s a bit odd that in the 1950s they all made a decision to dial it back, which is when the decline began.
The Ivy League just announced that their teams would be eligible for the FCS playoffs starting in 2025.
I thought the Memphis Tennessee Liberty Bowl might be mentioned, it seats about 60,000 but the college Memphis Tigers doesn’t remotely fill half of that. The stadium was built in the 1960’s hoping to attract an NFL team that never came.
Technically, an NFL team did come to the Liberty Bowl for one season, 1997, when the Houston Oilers moved to Tennessee. Because a suitable facility was not available in Nashville, their ultimate destination, they played one year in Memphis at the Liberty Bowl.
There should definitely be a bowl game for Yale Bowl
In college football, you have about 60 to 70 teams that can fill these big stadiums but the majority simply can't.....looking back to the Ivy league, when they built those stadiums there was no NFL and the Ivy league was a major force in college football. These days.......I wish the Ivy league would relax their rules a little concerning football
Franklin Field is an old classic that maybe other schools should play in once in a while just for nostalgia
Putting Penn/Franklin Field on here would be like putting Temple/Lincoln Financial on here. Franklin Field is a track and field venue that happens to host college football as well. Penn Relays easily fill Franklin Field.
Its always been a football stadium their football stadium, there not playing in another teams venue, it always was theirs and from my research the relays only fill half anyway.
@@forgottenplaces9780 Your research is wrong. The stadium regularly fills 50k+ for the Relays with a complicity of 54k. The stadium was built for the school with The Relays being the first event held there for a reason.
@@smokeymchaggis73 doubt it, a simple google search of the penn relays will show you a half empty stadium sometimes more… why dont you actually check things before commenting and saying im wrong and its not complicity its capacity…
@@forgottenplaces9780 Are those pictures for the events that happen during the day during the week? It's a 3 day event with over 300 competitions with thursday-saturday bringing in over 100k people with saturday being over 50k. I live here for 40 years and know the event. The stadium was literally opened for The Relays. You looked at some pictures and decided you know it all. ffs.
@@forgottenplaces9780 Are those pictures for the events that happen during the day during the week? It's a 3 day event with over 300 competitions with thursday-saturday bringing in over 100k people with saturday being over 50k. I live here for 40 years and know the event. The stadium was literally opened for The Relays. You looked at some pictures and decided you know it all. ffs.
Putting the Rose Bowl on your list is asinine. Its primary purpose is the Rose Bowl game, which sells out every year.
@@raidger4 no its not, it serves as the home of ucla many more times a year than the rose bowl. If they were so satisfied w the capacity they wouldnt be taking out 20k seats…
@@forgottenplaces9780 since 1982 and was built solely for the Rose Bowl game. It is literally where the bowl game was conceived..it is also a registered national landmark. There is no way it is too big or that it will ever change capacities. It is on UCLA to move. Come on dude.
@ there literally reducing the capacity, they just announced it, so right off the bat your wrong, come on dude…
Rose Bowl is not a good place to watch a game. The profile of the bowl is shallow, hard to see across the field.
It’s too big for UCLA football
Rice, Stanford, UNLV.......honorable mention
Now I wonder which ones are too small 🤔
A lot of college stadiums capacities are inflated by the fact they still have metal benches. If these places switched to seats it would reduce the capacity
IDK where you’re getting your data but every time I’ve seen the Cal stands they’re pretty full. Cal is way into their football team.
D1 attendance data, and no thats not what the averages say
Cal averages fewer fans than Rutgers, Central Florida, and Fresno State. Their attendance is terrible, especially given the size of the school and the huge local population.
The school puts the student section on the far side for the cameras to absorb. It’s the rest of the stadium…
@@PCSPounder Which I as a wrestling fan used to call the WCW Maneuver and now call it the AEW Maneuver. (4000 fans IS a lot of people to attend a wrestling show but looks pathetic in an NBA arena, which is what Tony Khan was booking the shows in until recently because the STAGE was too big for the small arenas, apparently.)
😆 30 secs in I knew that was Cal memorial stadium without even looking at it fully
I like how utep is going with scotty walden, stadium will get filled up little by little.
These are all iconic stadiums . And definitely do not need to be demolished.
@@igorslocks did i say that they need to be torn down? No i didnt…
I get it’s probably hard to find land in LA but like wouldn’t it be cooler if USC and UCLA had their own stadiums, not just moving into the coliseum and the rose bowl. They could make them sized to what they can expect in attendance and have it be more theirs
USC only played about 30 years at a different venue prior to the Coliseum being built literally on their campus. UCLA is a different story. They have a stadium on campus, but it seats less than 12k and students back in the 60s voted two to one against a much larger on-campus proposal.
@classjacksonlawsuit so they refuse to build a bigger venue due to a vote in 1965?
UCLA would probably have more fans at games if they had a stadium on campus. The Rose Bowl is like 26 miles, in LA traffic that's easily 1 hour drive and 3 hours public transit one way. Not too many college students trying to do that, most college students don't drive.
I believe UCLA is unable to build a stadium on campus due to complaints by the neighbors and not being able to get zoning approval.
UCLA campus is surrounded by some of the richest and most exclusive neighborhoods in the US. Zero chance they ever build a major stadium there. USC campus is surrounded by working class, sketchy and gentrified neighborhoods. You can and will build a lot there, especially for LA’28. Ironically, UCLA is the state school and USC is a private school known for a rich student body.
Protective Stadium needs to be added to this list UAB can’t even fill it up.
You forgot about the sunbowl game
It's not used anymore, but Aloha Stadium for Hawaii
Can't believe you bring up Franklin Field and don't mention The Penn Relays ONCE! It's an extremely prestigious track event that features All Americans, Olympians, and nearly capacity crowds. Franklin Field is a track and field stadium with a football field in it
Bc this is about football, and from what i researched track only fills about half anyway.
Begs a question… did Philadelphia try to bring the World Track & Field Championships to Franklin? Is the track to international dimensions? I know the new Hayward Field in Eugene is a modern marvel, but the Worlds usually take place in larger venues and Franklin seems like a place to try.
@@forgottenplaces9780 Franklin Field isn't exclusively a football stadium though, and not mentioning the biggest event the venue hosts is missing context that explains why some aspects of it are the way they are. It would be like bringing up the Rose Bowl as UCLA's field and not mentioning how it hosts the Rose Bowl. It's just good context to have
@@PCSPounder Ever since new Hayward field opened in 2021 it became really hard to justify hosting national / international events in the US anywhere else. It's the newest nicest, and pretty much only purpose built exclusive track and field facility. Also location is very important for those events, they exclusively have them in the Midwest or PNW for weather reasons. Its why Texas' Myers stadium has never hosted an Olympics trials despite being a nice facility
Hmmm, for six home games a season what does it matter? Concert tours go into these places and sellout on a regular basis. Think wider for usage!
@@geoffreylee5199 not at those stadiums they dont usually, theres usually a better nfl option nearby
@@forgottenplaces9780 U2 literally filmed their 360 tour concert film at the Rose bowl in 09. While there wasn't necessarily a better option at the time, they would still go there today due to being able to sell out that size as one of the most successful acts of all time and due to its historical nature.
A lot of college stadiums do not hold concerts
You forgot about Rice stadium.
The Rose Bowl is too big for UCLA. They should have a new stadium that has a maximum capacity of 60,000. The same should go for Miami who should a new stadium that has a maximum capacity from 55-60K.
Agree I feel the main issue for UCLA and Miami are their Stadiums are both over 30 minute drives away from campus have a Stadium on Campus the students will show up.
@@thedominatior39 There is zero space for a stadium anywhere near campus in Miami.
UCLA problem is the Rose Bowl is 26 miles away from campus, that's 1 hour drive or 3 hour metro ride one way. students ain't doing that
El Paso to have a stadium as big as the Sun Bowl is a mistake. They don’t have the population or industry that will allow a sellout of such events.
Memorial Stadium in Berkeley is one Earthquake away from being torn down naturally. The stadium is built on an Earthquake fault.
Totally thought I'd see Temple here. Good video.
Facts I did too 😂
Liberty Bowl in Memphis
Doesn't the San Andreas fault go through Cal's stadium? If it does just wait.
Interesting how all of these stadiums and their programs have stronger academic requirements than most NCAA programs.
So do Notre Dame, Michigan, Texas, and many other schools with more-selective entrance requirements. Also, don’t believe that the players at elite schools would come anywhere close to meeting the average GPA & test scores at their respective universities. See: Beast Mode & DeSean Jackson at Cal.
@@canoone1975 *cough* don't forget Florida *cough* Just because they're in the SEC, doesn't mean they aren't rated as one of if not the highest rated public institutions nationally. It is literally them, Vandy, and now UT pulling the rest of the SEC along with them when it comes to academics.
Better to be too big than too small. You never want to turn away paying customers.
That’s what she said
*these stadiums have some of the largest capacities IN THE WORLD.
Here’s a couple more for you.. Rice, Baylor, SMU, Stanford and TCU
SMU has a perfectly sized stadium.
California Memorial Stadium: the stadium built on a fault line.
I would have thought the former Turner Field would make this list. Georgia State looks like they're playing in front of no fans.
UNC upgraded but reduced the number of seats to 50,000 and still can't fill it.
Bill’s gonna change that :)
For the Rose Bowl I can only say that if USC managed to justify renovating a stadium as historic as the Coliseum, then maybe they could do a similar renovation on the press box side. And I can see _maybe_ a good string of recruiting-slash-transfers getting them back up to first tier. But they'd _still_ have to reduce to 80 thousand and tarp off 10 thousand for nearly every game in my opinion.
And I get Cal on an average attendance basis but I don't think you can really reduce it because of one thing -- The Big Game. It feels like that can sell out this venue even when the Cardinal and the Bears are coming into it 3-8 and 2-9. Again, though, most games they can probably tarp off the end zones above the gates.
It's always so strange to think about how much of a gap there is between the Michigans and the Notre Dames of the game and even the UCFs let alone the Penns. And it's also always so wild to realize that the _real_ big ticket college teams look down on pretty much every NFL stadium for being too _small._ But that's a completely different vibe anyway -- and it's funny how my NFL team's stadium (Highmark) is often derided as "it just feels like a college stadium". While actually having one of the bigger capacities, come to think of it, in the NFL.
The second phase of the Rose Bowl renovation plan is to reduce to under 72,000 seats by lengthening leg room in each row. That’s needed, but it’s not scheduled to happen until after the Olympics AND after sufficient funds are raised.
I’ve been in Drake Stadium on campus for soccer (a newer soccer complex now exists; the stadium is primarily the track stadium). It looks bigger than 11,000. And if there’s space for a new track (not an easy thing in Westwood), an on-campus stadium seems more appropriate for them. Probably space for no more than 35-40K if they build up more than out (see Providence Park, Portland), but since their Rose Bowl attendance is fudged anyway (except for the USC game, which perhaps should permanently be in the Rose Bowl if UCLA moves), that might be their wiser course of action.
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Bring back Bec!
UCLA and usc suck right now
Rice?
Can someone explain me please why Ivy League schools have such massive sports programs?
Aren't these places all about being intellectual, and about science and all that?
Thanks
No, they're about prestige. All colleges are supposed to be intellectual, being institutions of higher learning after all. Ivy League schools were some of the first to have teams, no reason to take them out of D1
@@DJVexillumthey are FCS barely division 1
College football was a northeastern sport in the earliest days, and the Ivy League schools dominated. That started to change after WW I, and by the end of WW II, those days were truly over.
@@frankf684 But they are still D1. Otherwise NCAA would have moved them down.
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Football is dying.