Knowing that Todd is the most sensitive and fragile of the group, I like the way the group of friends followed him outside in the snow at a short distance, very much concerned about the way he's going to react at Neil's death, and when Todd suddenly collapses on the ground, the comfort is immediate, friendship is such a wonderful thing, and it's precisely what I love in this particular scene....
Fun fact: This scene was meant to be an interior scene. But when it began to snow, director Peter Weir thought the scene would have more impact if done outside in the snow. The snow was also starting to let up but Ethan Hawke managed it
Ethan delivered so much intensity and emotions in this scene, and at the end the weakest boy of the class became the strongest one thanks to the teaching of mister Keaton....
Genevieve Raaijmakers I think it shows tragic irony, the shy one is the one who stands up to his domineering force (Headmaster Nolan) while the outgoing one is unable to stand up to his domineering force (his father)
Ethan was feeling weird about his lines in the snow. The director said “Okay. You can _not_ say the lines but you have to make me _think_ you said them.” So he came up with delivering them hysterically like that, in a rush because they had that snow falling and unspoiled and the director wanted to use the beautiful snow scene they weren’t expecting. So that scene was quite unplanned.
In literature, the seasons of the time of year have a meaning. Spring means the beginning of life, Summer means the innocents of life, Fall means the near end of life and Winter means death. Notice how Neil’s death takes place during winter.
I remember reading a short story by James Joyce called “The Dead” in which the snow’s ubiquity represents how we all will eventually die and the transience of life.
I love how his strong feelings force him to run and fall in the snow without focusing on his freezing body. How he throws up from emotional sickness and turmoil. I love scenes that are done well and visually show and accurately express how a distressed person feels. Amazing scene in my opinion.
I showed this to a class of 17 students. During the suicide scene you could have heard a pin drop. At the end I had at least 15 students on floods of tears and the Kleenex was going round the room at full speed. Some films just mark an entire generation. This is one of them.
@@MircheMusic I lost my roomate, and classmate for 8 years, to suicide, he was 21 years old, he wrote with big red letter on the wall ''THIS LIFE IS TORMENT'' and then blew his head off. And its so irrelevant anyway. Movie is juvenile crap
@@mskidi i feel bad that you could never live a life of passion and worth. Your outlook stunts you from seeing the world in a positive light. You my good sir, are shortsighted and resentful. I hope you find help soon.
First time I saw this movie was early 2016. It was on my movie list and I wasn't having a good day and said well might as well watch it now! Robin Williams is so funny this movie he's in will surely make you feel better! ....I was very wrong. It's one of my fave movies. But oh wow the shock I was in for...
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Knox by now emerged as my favourite character. He's balanced and empathetic, he knew when to make his move, when to take a risk, and he knew how to duck trouble - save for getting whacked by Chris' boyfriend, but even that played to his advantage. And he was the first one to back Todd thereby leading the rest of the group to stand.
Everyone talks about Todd, but the part that hits me the most is Keating’s reaction, without a word, we see his heart torn up, he sees just how much influence he had, how important he was to Neil, even though it wasn’t his fault, there’s a part of him deep down that might blame himself for what happens
Yeah it's a very powerful scene --- Keating knows that he's being a "do gooder" by stimulating young mens' minds and getting them to find their passion, but Neil's suicide makes him realize there's a heavy cost that can come with that great mission
It’s one of the hardest scenes for me to watch. After my best friend died 3 years ago, I broke down just like that as I was reading our last messages to each other. One of the last things she said to me was “you’re the best friend a girl could ask for.” It’s a very raw, very real reaction.
"His father did it!" He's not far off. What his father did constitutes emotional abuse. Even though there is no set standard under the law one of the most common criteria is dominating or repressive behavior against another person. Oh if only I were Neil's lawyer! I'd eat up that case and not charge a penny!
I don't think so. Neil's father was unyielding, tyrannical but he wasn't abusive. He was directing his son in love attempting to serve Neil's interest. He just didn't respect or understand Neil was capable, mature enough to choose that for himself.
@@Denturess The character was driven to suicide and the character’s “father” is depicted as having been driven to the depths of grief over his son’s suicide ... perhaps Neil’s father came to the realization that he should have fucking lightened up on “Neil”
@@tristramcoffin926 He was living vicariously through Neil, never seeing him as his own person, but rather as a possession to control. Based on the mannerisms of Neil's mother she too was dominated by his father. I don't think his father ever truly considered him as a human being, even after his death. His father was far too selfish and egocentric for that. Even upon finding Neil's body he exclaims "My son!" over and over, not Neil, but "MY son!" He sees Neil only in his relationship to himself, with no real empathy.
@@Bastit3hman I think that is quite a leap and that ascribing motive to Neil's dad is both foolhardy and assumptive. As a previous poster said there is not enough context to establish abuse. There isn't enough to ascribe motive, either. Neil's father may have been living vicariously through Neil but to suggest it wasn't because he was merely stubborn or invested in Neil's success due to the sacrifices he made to give that opportunity to Neil is as myopic as Neil's father was to deny that Neil is his own person. We don't know where Neil's father came from or what he overcame in order to be able to send his son to one of the most prestigious and expensive prep schools in the country. There are people who have been in Neil's shoes who have instead of committing suicide made it their charter to sacrifice as Neil's dad did so their son or daughter could be whatever they wanted to be. That would have been a wiser decision from Neil. No one is ultimately responsible for killing Neil but Neil.
As I was crying hysterically, my classmates were laughing. I was so pissed that I actually ran to the bathroom and cried more. People in my class are heartless.
Chu Chu Carrot I didn’t watch it in class but I know what you mean. It’s okay to cry and just ignore them. You’re a bigger person than they’ll ever be.
same and what made it worse was when my teacher decided to be like “imagine what it would be like if that was your best friend who died” like excuse me this part is already sad enough
After I found out about Robin Williams, I thought about this scene and how many people were probably having the same reaction to his death that they had to Neil's in this film. Rest in peace, O Captain My Captain.
What I always found interesting - and even daring - about this film is that Neil and Charlie don't make it to the end. You'd expect the two students who seem to embrace Keating's teachings above all the others to be there. But their absence also make's Todd's actions even more moving.
The message is that society will not accept free thinkers. It will either drive them to their own destruction (Neil) or kick them out (Charlie). It's Cameron who is rewarded in the end, chosen by Mr. Nolan to be the spokesperson of the class.
@@MrsOdie2 No, it's that sometimes free thinkers get beaten down by those who want to control them. This was more accepted at the time the story took place. However, the fact that the students did stand on their desks showed that even though Keating was no longer going to be teaching them, they would not forget the important lessons he taught them about life and finding their own voices in the world, so there would still be free thinkers after all.
You know, there's some truth to it. The first round of leaders in any movement often go down in defeat, but it's the second round who rise to march onward to take the victory.
It's tragic irony. The shy one ultimately stood up to his domineering force, while the outgoing one ultimately couldn't stand up to his domineering force.
Well, in the deleted scenes, there is this scene where Todd helped Neil with his lines in the play as they walked towards the dock, and they were so joyful and energetic and happy. You really can see the breakthrough in their relationship. Around Todd, Neil can be who he truly is, be carefree, to love and be loved. That explains why after hearing Neil was dead, Todd immediately ran towards the dock and yelled out "NEILLLLLLL". He reminisced their memory and just didn't want to believe that Neil was gone...........
i really appreciate how all of them try to comfort todd in different ways. there's knox, who hugs him and says that it's okay there's charlie, who tries to keep him more or less concious and grounded and there are meeks and pitts, who keep safe distance, but are clearly concerned and try to understand
Neil reinforced Todd when he was down. Neil loved acting, he got to view it and see it, he was deprived from acting he even cried when his father banned him from acting in the play he had already been elected to do. However he still goes ahead and acts in the play; he was given a taste and so therefore he was placed with a scene, in which he saw the possibility of making it big. Todd saw the snow and he admires it even saying “It’s so beautiful.” he admired it and when he realized neil was not there to enjoy the snow with them he faced reality and therefore plummeted to the ground in disgust, but charlie goes and stuffs snow in his mouth to calm him down. This only awakens Todd’s delusion of Neil being around and even says something that is impossible but true at the same time “It was his father” That is when he stumbles away and walks by himself to contemplate. Both of these things have the same process- and I think it is significant in this way(but this is only my opinion) ; u ;
i dont know what u saying here for sure...but i do understand loss or grief n the quantity of words said must b ... tjere aint no fairy tale on tjose things poetry as scene so just is... the boys filL the space n trace only of tjst neil... gestures, steps, moves, thought n way taken... everything is preoccupied w that loss.. many things ...
this scene is so eerie tonight..... almost like they are responding to Robin Williams. the character of Professor Keating is crying because Robin Williams committed suicide. how we all wish we could go back in time just a few hours and pound at the door. if you're suffering from depression anxiety addiction or any other mental illness. know that you are not alone and it is nothing to be ashamed of.
@@johnlombard777 i disagree no one is ever truly alone. If you truly think that i guarantee you just want to believe it so much so you have to keep telling yourself that. there is always someone who will listen.
Robin William's was going through a neurodegenerative disease that was taking his personality away from him, which caused him great deals of anxiety, stress, and confusion. It wasn't the type of depression people commonly talk about. He didn't kill himself because of a lack of support. He killed himself because he couldn't bear the burden of his disease.
Neil didn't die. He went to medical school, change his name and became Dr. Wilson from House. (What? It's the same actor. That would've been a good alt ending!)
As someone who was serially abused for at least 15 years starting at birth...I can't know what Neil's home life was like, but it's clear that his father tore away his dreams from him.
Todd actually does double over and vomit onto the ground. The snow, frozen water, provides a way to rinse the vomit away from his face and cleanse his mouth. It is an act of kindness...caring for his friend as he loses control of bodily function in a state of extreme grief and pain.
R.I.P., Robin Williams. Yesterday was supposed to be his birthday. Last night, I was watching "Dead Poets Society" and was bawling my eyes out. I went through an entire box of tissues crying, sniffling, and blowing my nose. Maybe it's a mixture of how hard this year & especially the past few months have been for me. Maybe it's because right now, I truly feel like Robert Sean Leonard, Ethan Hawke, and Robin William's characters combined in this movie. I've seen this movie so many times in my life. I saw this movie in English class in high school. I have the DVD & VHS to this movie. After I first saw this movie, I had a big crush on Robert Sean Leonard. I was thrilled when he was on 'House, M.D." with Hugh Laurie on TV. It was just sad how Robert Sean Leonard as Neil - how his voice wasn't heard by his Dad. His Dad only cared about his son going to Harvard and being a medical doctor that he didn't care to hear his son out and listen to what his son wanted. He didn't care about his son's happiness. He only cared about his son living the Dad's dreams, and not his own, and how he looked to impress society. He didn't listen to his son's heart, thoughts, and passions. I was also frustrated how Neil's Mom was silent and didn't speak up for Neil and let the Dad - her husband - make all the decision. Marriages and relationships are supposed to be an equal partnership. It shouldn't be one person dictating and making all the decisions. It's very unbalanced and one sided. Neil's Mom's voice was very silent. And she didn't protect or help her son. This is what happens when one person makes all the rules and doesn't take the time hear other people out and include them & their thoughts & feelings in their decisions. There have been times when I felt some people - online and in real life just railroaded me and didn't take the time, patience, consideration, care, & heart to truly and completely hear me out. In some ways, I do feel like Neil when some people in real life and online just railroad me, force things on me, and tell me that things have to be their way or the highway. It's unhappiness when you don't take the time to hear the other person out and apply patience, time, consideration, compassion, and empathy with them. I don't work with deadlines or timelines in personal friendships & relationships. I think Neil was the same way. Neil was railroaded by his Dad. His Dad only thought of himself. I know that many people in this world have had parents or a parent force them to study fields such as Medicine, Law, Engineering, etc., and tell them that they sent them to all these private & Ivy League schools to have the best of everything. But I think many people FAIL to take the time to truly hear and listen to what the people they care about want. If you care, like, or love someone - you need to take the time to communicate with them, and hear them out. If you don't, sometime tragic thing happen - such as the suicide of Neil, played by Robert Sean Leonard. Robin Williams died of suicide. If I had to travel back in time - I would have liked to have talked to Robin Williams and for him to tell me all the things that made him sad - just anything that was on his mind before he left this Earth. I don't judge or think any less of any person who has died from suicide. I think most people who have died from suicide are highly intelligent, sensitive, caring, generous souls with truly kind hearts. Many times it just came to the point that they felt so many feelings and were overwhelmed by things or they felt trapped where they felt hardly anybody was truly listening to them. Anyways, I can see the frustration that Neil and also Ethan Hawke's character had. Most people, including me, want to have our voices heard. And it's frustrating when our voices aren't heard. Anyways, "Dead Poets Society" is a great movie. I highly recommend this movie for this who haven't watched this film.
this part of the movie makes me most upset to rewatch because it bring back memories from the beginning of the year when we watched this movie in english class and my classmates were laughing and mocking the way he was falling and crying. i didn't notice ho enraged i was until i stood up and and was shaking and sweating from their reactions. clearly none of them had experienced someone they love killing themselves. i wished i had said something what's wrong with our generation?
Rayna Butler Yeah! Too many people laugh at the part where he is flailing around in the snow, but all I see is a devastated young man who just lost his best friend 😢
That's a reaction of self-defense from emotions that no one want to feel. I've seen it myself in my classes from teens who can't face that sort of trauma. I also know that letting them in is a truly overwhelming place to be that doesn't seem to have a bottom. Both your reaction and theirs are normal. I wish I could say that anything about these scenes seems false or overdone. It's not. I've been there.
We were watching this in English class last month and everyone in that class is a mindless un-inspired idiot that only cares about the trends of today. When it got to this scene, I was on the verge of crying, something I never do in school (it would be embarrassing), but the emotional depth of this scene was interrupted when a couple stupid boys started talking about how Todd looked like someone they knew. I couldn't hear what the characters were saying and I got so ticked off. Thank you for posting this scene, I finally got to cry over it, and how symbolic it is to Robin Williams death.
I know, we are watching this movie now and our teacher left stopped the movie when he ran away. Me and me off were is shock but everyone else was smiling and acting like nothing happened
frogpond66 same here bro. either some people are blind enough to not understand the emotions in the movie or they do and just don't want to show those emotions because they think that's a pussy move. fuck those people who think that.
Sydney O'Bier I cry during those moments too! I thought I was the only one but I did here some hints of sobbing in the back of me but very silently. I saw this in my sociology class and we all liked it. However, I understand you because I was pretty much the only person watching Of Mice and Men in my english class when our teacher put up the movie because everyone else wouldn't shut their mouths.
this scene hurts me so much, and not just because of the crying and the support and the pain of losing ones best friend as well as one of the members of their family. But also because of the deleted scene with Todd and Neil at the dock rehearsing lines and just being together, hanging out and having fun, the same dock that Todd runs to immediately after being told about Neil. It's such a contrast from the happy atmosphere of that scene to the sad and lonely one in this one.
That may, be funny, but when you hear the tragic news of a loved one passing suddenly like when my father did-you don't think you just react in a heartfelt way without what anybody else thinks or cares. I shouted loudly in the hospital waiting room and my brother just got stiff and numb and our mother collapsed and fainted.
I've often watched this film, and it aired the morning of Robin's own suicide. Ironically, I came in at the scene where Mr. Keating is crying over Neil's death. It's a fairly safe bet that Robin was already gone by that time, but the world had yet to find out about it.
- his father rejected Neil's ambition and forced him to follow what he envisioned for Neil's life with absolutely no alternative - his mother did absolutely nothing to support him, she just stood by and let his father take his life away from him "yeah it's totally his teacher's fault"
Thank you, Peter Weir, for making this extraordinary and beautiful film. Truly a master work that will live through the ages, and continue to inspire the next generation.
I just love how he sees that open space out there and just has so much emotion he runs and eventually just keeps walking. As if Neil is out there in the snow somewhere
I saw this movie for the first time in my college Comp 1 class. I was crying like a baby and trying desperately to hide it because I was the only one who had never seen it before (and the only one crying)...
Bawling my eyes out seems to be a regular occurrence ever since i watched dead poets society last friday. RIP Neil and RIP oh Captain my Captain, hope you're both happy and in peace together, and hope all your unfulfilled dreams came true up there.
you know a piece of art is truly phenomenal when it feels so deeply personal and you’re so possessive of it. Yet, it’s such a community experience. Brilliant film, truly no words.
I lost one of my best friends too young and this acted as a catharsis for me. I didn't have a group of friends so I buried it for too long. Thank you to filmmakers who put so much work into making films and scenes like this.
I still cry over this scene. I cried leaving the movie theater after seeing the movie for the first time. Robin Williams was magnificent in this role. His best role ever. So inspiring to these young men. Carpe diem. Oh Captain my Captain. I loved the final scene when the boys stood on their desks saying this in tribute to their beloved teacher and mentor.
Robin Williams crying about the suicide... Were his tears caused by the contemplation of his own suicidal thoughts? Granted this is years before it happened, but perhaps there is more to it than what we see in those few seconds
A 1979 TV Guide article called "A Morked Woman" in which his "Mork & Mindy" co-star Pam Dawber was interviewed mentions in its first paragraph that Robin faked hanging himself during a rehearsal, there were quite a few references to suicide in many of his films, in "The Angriest Man in Brooklyn", his character, who is dying claims he wanted his birth and death dates to read "1951-2014" as Robin's now do, and his self-titled comedy tour, "Weapons of Self Destruction" seems even more ominous in hindsight. I'd have to conclude he was long predisposed to take his own life. But sadly, were he still here, he would most likely be in a chronic care facility and in the grip of Lewy Body dementia with perhaps only a year or so left to live at this point. I couldn't regret his killing himself more.But who would want him alive and suffering in the way he most likely would be?
@@deborahearle4151 Also, Good Morning Vietnam, when he first airs as the host. "Viva Da Nang. Viva Da Nang. Da Nangme, Da Nangme, I would like to get a rope and hang meeee"
The most beautiful moment EVER. I love the way that shows us the friendship. I think that this movie have to watch it every teenager in every country on the world. I remember the first time that I watch this movie, after that I have change me believes and I just live in now and don't think about the future. I just SEIZE THE DAY.
There is no right or wrong way to behave toward a friend's suicide. Cry, laugh, sadness, relief - they may all be correct. I had a friend who hit someone with his car. he was distraught, devastated. It turned out this poor soul left a note that he planned on stepping in front of a car. My friend, however presented with this suicide note, remained devastated that he had killed another human being. The suicidal person thought he would have spared any guilt for the soul that killed him. His suicide note brought no solace to my friend who struggled with the guilt for many years.
Watched this movie in my junior year English class. I saw kids you’d never expect to be emotional at a film be physically upset at this movie. This scene was the one that had just about everyone in the classroom teary-eyed. In a classroom full of people not even really caring about the class they were forced to take, this movie affected them. And that honestly is beautiful
It would've been great if Neil's dad would've been confronted and got his comeuppance over what happened there. It's too bad movies don't always give us what we want.
It still irritates me of how they didn’t include the scene where Neil and Todd rehearsed Neil’s play together at the dock, partially or most likely explaining why Todd ran there as Neil’s death settles in. When they rehearsed together, it kind of showed how Neil encouraged Todd to have more courage himself. And Neil’s death led Todd to become stronger, like how he stood on his desk as one last goodbye to dear Mr. Keating.
We watched this in English class during the last week of my Freshmen year in high school, when the teachers all basically say "screw it, we'll just watch movies and play games". Our teacher bet that during Neil's suicide scene or during the end of the film, there would not be a dry eye in the room. And about 34 girls proved her right! And as of right now I cannot see the flipping keyboard I'm crying so hard!
This sequence. It broke my heart into pieces. These kids are so pure, their friendship is everything that gives them the strength to last through the tough curriculum at a school like theirs. Losing a friend in Neil, man.
It's hard to put things into perspective when you're young. Several years ago, a co-worker of mine took her own life just hours after her boyfriend broke up with her. She was 28.
I think everyone was my friend. Because I love and I'm stupid and a disabled woman and a idiot savant woman and I got lead poisoning from 30 years of my favorite china. Ptsd and tourette episodes preclude work and a husband. I love unreciprocated love
In almost every other scene when they show the fields that surround the school they also show the life. The birds taking off, the colors of sunset, the water of the lake. But here theres nothing. As if everything died with him
Knowing that Todd is the most sensitive and fragile of the group, I like the way the group of friends followed him outside in the snow at a short distance, very much concerned about the way he's going to react at Neil's death, and when Todd suddenly collapses on the ground, the comfort is immediate, friendship is such a wonderful thing, and it's precisely what I love in this particular scene....
Sad thing is, that's how friends in movies are....that's not real life
I didn't need this 😭
ghostrider that's not true, their is friendship like that
Genevieve Raaijmakers I noticed that too.
I’d never dictate my kids’ life. As long as they educate themselves, I don’t care what field.
I’d rather my kids have price of mind than power.
Every high school English class should be required to show this movie at one point or another. Truly brilliant!
I saw it in my freshman year in high school.
Claire Samuels my engilsh teacher put this for last week in my sophomore year rn
I saw this in my ela honors class in my freshman year
Claire Samuels I saw it in 6th grade and loved the movie. Still love it
My teacher is letting us watch it in class
Fun fact: This scene was meant to be an interior scene. But when it began to snow, director Peter Weir thought the scene would have more impact if done outside in the snow. The snow was also starting to let up but Ethan Hawke managed it
Yeah I read the script I saw it too. I guess this gives better cinematography .
How do you know that?
Ethan Hawke...incredible.
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Interesting that it actually snowed, since there is a behind the scenes look at the film on here and you see them setting up snow.
Ethan delivered so much intensity and emotions in this scene, and at the end the weakest boy of the class became the strongest one thanks to the teaching of mister Keaton....
Genevieve Raaijmakers
I think it shows tragic irony, the shy one is the one who stands up to his domineering force (Headmaster Nolan) while the outgoing one is unable to stand up to his domineering force (his father)
James EE Good Point
The french version is so bad compared to the original, we don't even hear him screaming or crying
Keating* ✌🏻❤️🙂
Ethan was feeling weird about his lines in the snow. The director said “Okay. You can _not_ say the lines but you have to make me _think_ you said them.” So he came up with delivering them hysterically like that, in a rush because they had that snow falling and unspoiled and the director wanted to use the beautiful snow scene they weren’t expecting. So that scene was quite unplanned.
Todd's reaction to his suicide is the sadest part of the movie
It was all done on the fly too. It was conveniently snowing and Peter Weir changed the scene to take place outside.
Same with John’s reaction where he was crying reading his society book
In literature, the seasons of the time of year have a meaning. Spring means the beginning of life, Summer means the innocents of life, Fall means the near end of life and Winter means death. Notice how Neil’s death takes place during winter.
Wow! Never thought of that before
Ross DiamondThief very interesting analysis my friend
Where did you get this information ftom? I'm intriguded
I remember reading a short story by James Joyce called “The Dead” in which the snow’s ubiquity represents how we all will eventually die and the transience of life.
@@rjaxxxas Interpretation
I love how his strong feelings force him to run and fall in the snow without focusing on his freezing body.
How he throws up from emotional sickness and turmoil.
I love scenes that are done well and visually show and accurately express how a distressed person feels.
Amazing scene in my opinion.
Decri ist kein Clown!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I showed this to a class of 17 students. During the suicide scene you could have heard a pin drop. At the end I had at least 15 students on floods of tears and the Kleenex was going round the room at full speed. Some films just mark an entire generation. This is one of them.
Thats because teenagers are emotional, idealistic and dumb. So this idiotic melodrama can easily manipulate them.
@@mskidi Are you kidding me? Go up to someone who just lost a friend or family member to suicide and say that to their face. You’re ignorant.
@@MircheMusic I lost my roomate, and classmate for 8 years, to suicide, he was 21 years old, he wrote with big red letter on the wall ''THIS LIFE IS TORMENT'' and then blew his head off. And its so irrelevant anyway. Movie is juvenile crap
@@mskidi Explains your horrible outlook on things.
@@mskidi i feel bad that you could never live a life of passion and worth. Your outlook stunts you from seeing the world in a positive light. You my good sir, are shortsighted and resentful. I hope you find help soon.
it's sad to see robin crying :( Even when you know it's a movie
First time I saw this movie was early 2016. It was on my movie list and I wasn't having a good day and said well might as well watch it now! Robin Williams is so funny this movie he's in will surely make you feel better! ....I was very wrong. It's one of my fave movies. But oh wow the shock I was in for...
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Robin should have gotten an Oscar - but 1989 was a phenomenal year for movies. He was up against a lot of good stuff.
boimackhead i thought the same...
It is also sad in that this is but one film he did which deals with the theme of suicide given that as much as how Robin died, myself.
The way Knox hugs Todd and has tears in his eyes always gets to me because it shows how empathic he is to everyone.
Knox by now emerged as my favourite character. He's balanced and empathetic, he knew when to make his move, when to take a risk, and he knew how to duck trouble - save for getting whacked by Chris' boyfriend, but even that played to his advantage. And he was the first one to back Todd thereby leading the rest of the group to stand.
Everyone talks about Todd, but the part that hits me the most is Keating’s reaction, without a word, we see his heart torn up, he sees just how much influence he had, how important he was to Neil, even though it wasn’t his fault, there’s a part of him deep down that might blame himself for what happens
Yeah it's a very powerful scene --- Keating knows that he's being a "do gooder" by stimulating young mens' minds and getting them to find their passion, but Neil's suicide makes him realize there's a heavy cost that can come with that great mission
It’s one of the hardest scenes for me to watch. After my best friend died 3 years ago, I broke down just like that as I was reading our last messages to each other. One of the last things she said to me was “you’re the best friend a girl could ask for.”
It’s a very raw, very real reaction.
@@skyofthelivingdead lost someone few months ago, and I can’t read our old messages without crying
I received the text from my best friends brother the night he died. I’ve never felt pain or made sounds like that before
"His father did it!"
He's not far off. What his father did constitutes emotional abuse. Even though there is no set standard under the law one of the most common criteria is dominating or repressive behavior against another person.
Oh if only I were Neil's lawyer! I'd eat up that case and not charge a penny!
I don't think so. Neil's father was unyielding, tyrannical but he wasn't abusive. He was directing his son in love attempting to serve Neil's interest. He just didn't respect or understand Neil was capable, mature enough to choose that for himself.
@@Denturess The character was driven to suicide and the character’s “father” is depicted as having been driven to the depths of grief over his son’s suicide ... perhaps Neil’s father came to the realization that he should have fucking lightened up on “Neil”
@@tristramcoffin926 He was living vicariously through Neil, never seeing him as his own person, but rather as a possession to control. Based on the mannerisms of Neil's mother she too was dominated by his father. I don't think his father ever truly considered him as a human being, even after his death. His father was far too selfish and egocentric for that. Even upon finding Neil's body he exclaims "My son!" over and over, not Neil, but "MY son!" He sees Neil only in his relationship to himself, with no real empathy.
@@Bastit3hman I think that is quite a leap and that ascribing motive to Neil's dad is both foolhardy and assumptive. As a previous poster said there is not enough context to establish abuse. There isn't enough to ascribe motive, either. Neil's father may have been living vicariously through Neil but to suggest it wasn't because he was merely stubborn or invested in Neil's success due to the sacrifices he made to give that opportunity to Neil is as myopic as Neil's father was to deny that Neil is his own person.
We don't know where Neil's father came from or what he overcame in order to be able to send his son to one of the most prestigious and expensive prep schools in the country.
There are people who have been in Neil's shoes who have instead of committing suicide made it their charter to sacrifice as Neil's dad did so their son or daughter could be whatever they wanted to be. That would have been a wiser decision from Neil. No one is ultimately responsible for killing Neil but Neil.
@@Denturess Bullshit - abuse and love are mutually exclusive. Your speculation is ridiculous.
As I was crying hysterically, my classmates were laughing. I was so pissed that I actually ran to the bathroom and cried more. People in my class are heartless.
Same! I'm always the only one who cries in class during sad scenes.
TheAbsoluteBest well i mean ur profile picture is a anime character
Chu Chu Carrot I didn’t watch it in class but I know what you mean. It’s okay to cry and just ignore them. You’re a bigger person than they’ll ever be.
same and what made it worse was when my teacher decided to be like “imagine what it would be like if that was your best friend who died” like excuse me this part is already sad enough
Chu Chu Carrot damn... lots of sickos out there. Why’d people laugh at this scene??
Damn, I wish I had friends like them. They really cared for him.
Me too
That friendship throughout the movie became a brotherhood
U have no real friends? Lmfao! That's Sad!
@@ccptube3468 what’s wrong with u
After I found out about Robin Williams, I thought about this scene and how many people were probably having the same reaction to his death that they had to Neil's in this film. Rest in peace, O Captain My Captain.
I'm still not over his death
What I always found interesting - and even daring - about this film is that Neil and Charlie don't make it to the end. You'd expect the two students who seem to embrace Keating's teachings above all the others to be there. But their absence also make's Todd's actions even more moving.
The message is that society will not accept free thinkers. It will either drive them to their own destruction (Neil) or kick them out (Charlie). It's Cameron who is rewarded in the end, chosen by Mr. Nolan to be the spokesperson of the class.
Charlie at the end was expelled because he punched Cameron, remember? But he is still here right now.
@@MrsOdie2 No, it's that sometimes free thinkers get beaten down by those who want to control them. This was more accepted at the time the story took place. However, the fact that the students did stand on their desks showed that even though Keating was no longer going to be teaching them, they would not forget the important lessons he taught them about life and finding their own voices in the world, so there would still be free thinkers after all.
@@sha11235 I'm referring to the ending, not this scene.
You know, there's some truth to it. The first round of leaders in any movement often go down in defeat, but it's the second round who rise to march onward to take the victory.
It's tragic irony. The shy one ultimately stood up to his domineering force, while the outgoing one ultimately couldn't stand up to his domineering force.
Well, in the deleted scenes, there is this scene where Todd helped Neil with his lines in the play as they walked towards the dock, and they were so joyful and energetic and happy. You really can see the breakthrough in their relationship. Around Todd, Neil can be who he truly is, be carefree, to love and be loved. That explains why after hearing Neil was dead, Todd immediately ran towards the dock and yelled out "NEILLLLLLL". He reminisced their memory and just didn't want to believe that Neil was gone...........
I thought he said, "DAMN!!!!!"
@@sha11235 I thought he said : "NOOOO"
i really appreciate how all of them try to comfort todd in different ways.
there's knox, who hugs him and says that it's okay
there's charlie, who tries to keep him more or less concious and grounded
and there are meeks and pitts, who keep safe distance, but are clearly concerned and try to understand
Neil reinforced Todd when he was down. Neil loved acting, he got to view it and see it, he was deprived from acting he even cried when his father banned him from acting in the play he had already been elected to do. However he still goes ahead and acts in the play; he was given a taste and so therefore he was placed with a scene, in which he saw the possibility of making it big.
Todd saw the snow and he admires it even saying “It’s so beautiful.” he admired it and when he realized neil was not there to enjoy the snow with them he faced reality and therefore plummeted to the ground in disgust, but charlie goes and stuffs snow in his mouth to calm him down. This only awakens Todd’s delusion of Neil being around and even says something that is impossible but true at the same time “It was his father” That is when he stumbles away and walks by himself to contemplate.
Both of these things have the same process- and I think it is significant in this way(but this is only my opinion) ; u ;
i dont know what u saying here for sure...but i do understand loss or grief n the quantity of words said must b ... tjere aint no fairy tale on tjose things poetry as scene so just is... the boys filL the space n trace only of tjst neil... gestures, steps, moves, thought n way taken... everything is preoccupied w that loss.. many things ...
Katja Thesaurus you don't even make sense yourself, all your sentences don't even end by a full stop.
Knowing the scene in the snow was made in one take is truly amazing.
this scene is so eerie tonight..... almost like they are responding to Robin Williams. the character of Professor Keating is crying because Robin Williams committed suicide. how we all wish we could go back in time just a few hours and pound at the door.
if you're suffering from depression anxiety addiction or any other mental illness. know that you are not alone and it is nothing to be ashamed of.
Disagree. If you are suffering intensely and endlessly, usually, you are COMPLETELY alone; nobody wants to hear it.
@@johnlombard777 The point still stands that is worthwhile to *try* to find help. There is always a therapist you can go to to get back on your feet.
Yes i am alone .For decades.women that i love are ghosting me or telling me that i am a good ..man.
@@johnlombard777 i disagree no one is ever truly alone. If you truly think that i guarantee you just want to believe it so much so you have to keep telling yourself that. there is always someone who will listen.
Robin William's was going through a neurodegenerative disease that was taking his personality away from him, which caused him great deals of anxiety, stress, and confusion. It wasn't the type of depression people commonly talk about. He didn't kill himself because of a lack of support. He killed himself because he couldn't bear the burden of his disease.
Ethan Hawk is a wonderful actor. Just watch this scene,you will see.
did you know the snow scene was shot in one take and ethan hawke improvised most of his lines? legend!
It's a nice information. Thanks for this Warren.
The way Meeks stands in the doorway, his expression was a mix of disbelief and overall numbness, these boys were truly brilliant
Cameron wasn’t there to comfort Todd. Kind of goes to show what kind of a “friend” he was.
the way knox hugs todd kills me every time
Neil's suicide hits me especially today with Robin Willams' suicide
No one can say you didn't live, Mr. Williams. I hope you're somewhere nice now.
Neil didn't die. He went to medical school, change his name and became Dr. Wilson from House. (What? It's the same actor. That would've been a good alt ending!)
I know. Before James Wilson was born.
And then died from cancer
yah you can see how Wilson is still unhappy as a doctor not an actor
Manzie Pyrope wow..this is supposed to be a sad thing and you think that's funny? what you did?
Mythic Akneth
Really? :/
As someone who was serially abused for at least 15 years starting at birth...I can't know what Neil's home life was like, but it's clear that his father tore away his dreams from him.
I watched this last night,.. very emotional two hours. RIP Captain.
Todd actually does double over and vomit onto the ground. The snow, frozen water, provides a way to rinse the vomit away from his face and cleanse his mouth. It is an act of kindness...caring for his friend as he loses control of bodily function in a state of extreme grief and pain.
the poor kid just wanted to be in a freaking play
Ethan Hawke is simply amazing in this film!
the world needs to watch this movie
R.I.P., Robin Williams. Yesterday was supposed to be his birthday. Last night, I was watching "Dead Poets Society" and was bawling my eyes out. I went through an entire box of tissues crying, sniffling, and blowing my nose. Maybe it's a mixture of how hard this year & especially the past few months have been for me. Maybe it's because right now, I truly feel like Robert Sean Leonard, Ethan Hawke, and Robin William's characters combined in this movie.
I've seen this movie so many times in my life. I saw this movie in English class in high school. I have the DVD & VHS to this movie. After I first saw this movie, I had a big crush on Robert Sean Leonard. I was thrilled when he was on 'House, M.D." with Hugh Laurie on TV. It was just sad how Robert Sean Leonard as Neil - how his voice wasn't heard by his Dad. His Dad only cared about his son going to Harvard and being a medical doctor that he didn't care to hear his son out and listen to what his son wanted. He didn't care about his son's happiness. He only cared about his son living the Dad's dreams, and not his own, and how he looked to impress society. He didn't listen to his son's heart, thoughts, and passions. I was also frustrated how Neil's Mom was silent and didn't speak up for Neil and let the Dad - her husband - make all the decision. Marriages and relationships are supposed to be an equal partnership. It shouldn't be one person dictating and making all the decisions. It's very unbalanced and one sided. Neil's Mom's voice was very silent. And she didn't protect or help her son. This is what happens when one person makes all the rules and doesn't take the time hear other people out and include them & their thoughts & feelings in their decisions.
There have been times when I felt some people - online and in real life just railroaded me and didn't take the time, patience, consideration, care, & heart to truly and completely hear me out. In some ways, I do feel like Neil when some people in real life and online just railroad me, force things on me, and tell me that things have to be their way or the highway. It's unhappiness when you don't take the time to hear the other person out and apply patience, time, consideration, compassion, and empathy with them. I don't work with deadlines or timelines in personal friendships & relationships. I think Neil was the same way. Neil was railroaded by his Dad. His Dad only thought of himself. I know that many people in this world have had parents or a parent force them to study fields such as Medicine, Law, Engineering, etc., and tell them that they sent them to all these private & Ivy League schools to have the best of everything. But I think many people FAIL to take the time to truly hear and listen to what the people they care about want.
If you care, like, or love someone - you need to take the time to communicate with them, and hear them out. If you don't, sometime tragic thing happen - such as the suicide of Neil, played by Robert Sean Leonard. Robin Williams died of suicide. If I had to travel back in time - I would have liked to have talked to Robin Williams and for him to tell me all the things that made him sad - just anything that was on his mind before he left this Earth. I don't judge or think any less of any person who has died from suicide. I think most people who have died from suicide are highly intelligent, sensitive, caring, generous souls with truly kind hearts. Many times it just came to the point that they felt so many feelings and were overwhelmed by things or they felt trapped where they felt hardly anybody was truly listening to them. Anyways, I can see the frustration that Neil and also Ethan Hawke's character had. Most people, including me, want to have our voices heard. And it's frustrating when our voices aren't heard. Anyways, "Dead Poets Society" is a great movie. I highly recommend this movie for this who haven't watched this film.
An incredible description of the movie 👍
I was watching this movie when my mother called and told me Robin Williams died.
wow, that's a terrible coincidence. :(
I was watching it too, on Showtime I think.
this part of the movie makes me most upset to rewatch because it bring back memories from the beginning of the year when we watched this movie in english class and my classmates were laughing and mocking the way he was falling and crying. i didn't notice ho enraged i was until i stood up and and was shaking and sweating from their reactions. clearly none of them had experienced someone they love killing themselves. i wished i had said something what's wrong with our generation?
Rayna Butler Yeah! Too many people laugh at the part where he is flailing around in the snow, but all I see is a devastated young man who just lost his best friend 😢
That's a reaction of self-defense from emotions that no one want to feel. I've seen it myself in my classes from teens who can't face that sort of trauma. I also know that letting them in is a truly overwhelming place to be that doesn't seem to have a bottom. Both your reaction and theirs are normal. I wish I could say that anything about these scenes seems false or overdone.
It's not. I've been there.
We were watching this in English class last month and everyone in that class is a mindless un-inspired idiot that only cares about the trends of today.
When it got to this scene, I was on the verge of crying, something I never do in school (it would be embarrassing), but the emotional depth of this scene was interrupted when a couple stupid boys started talking about how Todd looked like someone they knew. I couldn't hear what the characters were saying and I got so ticked off. Thank you for posting this scene, I finally got to cry over it, and how symbolic it is to Robin Williams death.
I know, we are watching this movie now and our teacher left stopped the movie when he ran away. Me and me off were is shock but everyone else was smiling and acting like nothing happened
frogpond66 same here bro. either some people are blind enough to not understand the emotions in the movie or they do and just don't want to show those emotions because they think that's a pussy move. fuck those people who think that.
pinkieturndownfor uhhWHAT I know right!
Exactly why im here
Sydney O'Bier I cry during those moments too! I thought I was the only one but I did here some hints of sobbing in the back of me but very silently. I saw this in my sociology class and we all liked it. However, I understand you because I was pretty much the only person watching Of Mice and Men in my english class when our teacher put up the movie because everyone else wouldn't shut their mouths.
the part where Todd runs with the “as the world caves in song” would kill me
this scene hurts me so much, and not just because of the crying and the support and the pain of losing ones best friend as well as one of the members of their family. But also because of the deleted scene with Todd and Neil at the dock rehearsing lines and just being together, hanging out and having fun, the same dock that Todd runs to immediately after being told about Neil. It's such a contrast from the happy atmosphere of that scene to the sad and lonely one in this one.
delivers a double blow, this scene
You are greatly missed my Captain. Godspeed you wonderful soul :(
1:50 the Whitman's barbaric yawp.
That may, be funny, but when you hear the tragic news of a loved one passing suddenly like when my father did-you don't think you just react in a heartfelt way without what anybody else thinks or cares. I shouted loudly in the hospital waiting room and my brother just got stiff and numb and our mother collapsed and fainted.
i don't think they meant it as a joke
I was not joking, I really think that this moment of the movie express the barbaric yawp from Withman's poetry. Sorry.
Ranieri Bizarra ok coo. I see what you mean now.
I got that exactly. That is so...so haunting. This entire scene is haunting! I cannot get rid of these goosebumps.
I've often watched this film, and it aired the morning of Robin's own suicide. Ironically, I came in at the scene where Mr. Keating is crying over Neil's death. It's a fairly safe bet that Robin was already gone by that time, but the world had yet to find out about it.
How profound to see this clip TODAY after Robin Williams' apparent suicide. This topic hits home hard.
Still makes me cry to this day... like now for this instance
After I watched this movie, I lied awake at night reflecting on life. I was in shock. I love this movie but can't bring myself to watch it again.
- his father rejected Neil's ambition and forced him to follow what he envisioned for Neil's life with absolutely no alternative
- his mother did absolutely nothing to support him, she just stood by and let his father take his life away from him
"yeah it's totally his teacher's fault"
Thank you, Peter Weir, for making this extraordinary and beautiful film. Truly a master work that will live through the ages, and continue to inspire the next generation.
Theres a lot of Neil/Todd subtext...
No matter how many times I've seen this movie, I cry like a baby.
Watched this movie in class last year, slept through half of it, and when this part came on i was sobbing my eyes out
I just love how he sees that open space out there and just has so much emotion he runs and eventually just keeps walking. As if Neil is out there in the snow somewhere
"Leave him be!" The most beautifool sentence ever.
I cried when Robin started crying. This movie is just much more heart-wrenchingly sad because of the way Robin left :(
I just watched this movie for the first time and it went from a happy being brave movie to a sad, depressing movie. It shocked me in all honesty.
Two things:
1) OMG- when Keating starts crying...I just can't...
No doubt one of the greatest films ever made
I saw this movie for the first time in my college Comp 1 class. I was crying like a baby and trying desperately to hide it because I was the only one who had never seen it before (and the only one crying)...
Bawling my eyes out seems to be a regular occurrence ever since i watched dead poets society last friday. RIP Neil and RIP oh Captain my Captain, hope you're both happy and in peace together, and hope all your unfulfilled dreams came true up there.
Great film! RIP O' Captain my Captain
There’s little more in the world that hurts me more than seeing Robin crying.
you know a piece of art is truly phenomenal when it feels so deeply personal and you’re so possessive of it. Yet, it’s such a community experience. Brilliant film, truly no words.
I lost one of my best friends too young and this acted as a catharsis for me. I didn't have a group of friends so I buried it for too long. Thank you to filmmakers who put so much work into making films and scenes like this.
This scene, right here, broke my heart.
Peter Weir is a MASTER of the "movie score". The music in his movies are just haunting!
I watched this movie in my English class, everyone was crying but it was such a beautiful movie.❤️🖤
Neil is continuing his acting in heaven
I cried my eyes out when I saw this scene poor Neil 😢
I was weeping like a child while watching this scene
*Falls into snow* *Neil appears as ghost* *Tells him to go to the Dagobah system*
mörder house in my soup
My best friend in College committed suicide. I remember finding out that night, my reaction was fairly similar to Todd's
I still cry over this scene. I cried leaving the movie theater after seeing the movie for the first time. Robin Williams was magnificent in this role. His best role ever. So inspiring to these young men. Carpe diem. Oh Captain my Captain. I loved the final scene when the boys stood on their desks saying this in tribute to their beloved teacher and mentor.
Me and My boyfriend were watching this and I was crying my eyes out and he just sat there and chuckled. HOW COULD HE BE SO HEARTLESS!!!!
Robin Williams crying about the suicide... Were his tears caused by the contemplation of his own suicidal thoughts? Granted this is years before it happened, but perhaps there is more to it than what we see in those few seconds
A 1979 TV Guide article called "A Morked Woman" in which his "Mork & Mindy" co-star Pam Dawber was interviewed mentions in its first paragraph that Robin faked hanging himself during a rehearsal, there were quite a few references to suicide in many of his films, in "The Angriest Man in Brooklyn", his character, who is dying claims he wanted his birth and death dates to read "1951-2014" as Robin's now do, and his self-titled comedy tour, "Weapons of Self Destruction" seems even more ominous in hindsight. I'd have to conclude he was long predisposed to take his own life. But sadly, were he still here, he would most likely be in a chronic care facility and in the grip of Lewy Body dementia with perhaps only a year or so left to live at this point. I couldn't regret his killing himself more.But who would want him alive and suffering in the way he most likely would be?
I thought the same thing
@@deborahearle4151 Also, Good Morning Vietnam, when he first airs as the host. "Viva Da Nang. Viva Da Nang. Da Nangme, Da Nangme, I would like to get a rope and hang meeee"
charlie dalton is just so perfect !!!
We get it.
the only movie ever that i’ve cried to still
The most beautiful moment EVER. I love the way that shows us the friendship. I think that this movie have to watch it every teenager in every country on the world. I remember the first time that I watch this movie, after that I have change me believes and I just live in now and don't think about the future. I just SEIZE THE DAY.
Oh damn. This has just become the most eerily depressing vid on youtube :( Oh captain, my captain, we know your pain.
To breathe or to live, that is the question posed by the movie. For me i choose the latter.
You watch the whole movie to figure out how heartbroken "yawp" is.
Poetry made in a movie! My favorite forever!!
Honesly this was the first movie that made me cry
I wish I had friends like them, a true friend is hard to find as these days everything is materialistic, this scene makes me cry in silence 😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢
There is no right or wrong way to behave toward a friend's suicide.
Cry, laugh, sadness, relief - they may all be correct.
I had a friend who hit someone with his car. he was distraught, devastated.
It turned out this poor soul left a note that he planned on stepping in front of a car.
My friend, however presented with this suicide note, remained devastated that he had killed another human being.
The suicidal person thought he would have spared any guilt for the soul that killed him.
His suicide note brought no solace to my friend who struggled with the guilt for many years.
Watched this movie in my junior year English class. I saw kids you’d never expect to be emotional at a film be physically upset at this movie. This scene was the one that had just about everyone in the classroom teary-eyed. In a classroom full of people not even really caring about the class they were forced to take, this movie affected them. And that honestly is beautiful
It would've been great if Neil's dad would've been confronted and got his comeuppance over what happened there. It's too bad movies don't always give us what we want.
When that soft music comes in... I immediately get teary eyed.
Every time.
im watching this in my english class and my teacher said there was a suicide in the movie so I had to watch it and cry now so I wouldn't cry in class
1:25 this scene is so fucking powerful, ethan hawke is an amazing ass actor and his performance in dps astounds me
Hawk and Williams conveyed the shock of death from each of their characters perspectives so well, incredible.
It still irritates me of how they didn’t include the scene where Neil and Todd rehearsed Neil’s play together at the dock, partially or most likely explaining why Todd ran there as Neil’s death settles in. When they rehearsed together, it kind of showed how Neil encouraged Todd to have more courage himself. And Neil’s death led Todd to become stronger, like how he stood on his desk as one last goodbye to dear Mr. Keating.
We watched this in English class during the last week of my Freshmen year in high school, when the teachers all basically say "screw it, we'll just watch movies and play games". Our teacher bet that during Neil's suicide scene or during the end of the film, there would not be a dry eye in the room. And about 34 girls proved her right! And as of right now I cannot see the flipping keyboard I'm crying so hard!
This sequence. It broke my heart into pieces. These kids are so pure, their friendship is everything that gives them the strength to last through the tough curriculum at a school like theirs. Losing a friend in Neil, man.
It's hard to put things into perspective when you're young. Several years ago, a co-worker of mine took her own life just hours after her boyfriend broke up with her. She was 28.
Finding a good friend is just as hard as finding a true love. Probably even harder to find.
I think everyone was my friend. Because I love and I'm stupid and a disabled woman and a idiot savant woman and I got lead poisoning from 30 years of my favorite china. Ptsd and tourette episodes preclude work and a husband. I love unreciprocated love
R.I.P Robin Williams, you will be missed by many!!!
In almost every other scene when they show the fields that surround the school they also show the life. The birds taking off, the colors of sunset, the water of the lake. But here theres nothing. As if everything died with him
1:19-1:28 gets me every time, I ball like a baby