Absolutely. What I love about him is that he's not a RUclips trainer. He's a real trainer and an all-around awesome person and happens to post content on RUclips
I agree with you 100% Haz! It's so important to take your time and BE CAREFUL when dealing with dogs like this. I remember when I was a Kennel Tech we had a GSD who had shown NO history of aggression and I went to pick him up one day and put him on a table so we could treat an injury on his paw. He refused to jump on the table and so the moment he felt me picking him up he just snapped and before I knew it he just chewed my arm up and I ended up having to get 18 stitches. I've lost all feeling in my forearm because of the damaged nerves from that one bite and it happened so fast. And sure enough, after that he began developing a habit of biting other people anytime they did something to him he didn't like. So yeah, you definitely can't let them get away with that sort of behavior and that's why it's best to avoid it at all costs. It SUCKS to get bit and I would NEVER want to go through that experience ever again so I don't blame you one bit for taking your time and being careful. You do you brother! You know what your doing. Don't let the online trolls phase you 😊
This was great to watch and learn from. I don’t understand how anyone would criticize your method that aims for minimizing losses and maximizing wins. It’s blatantly obvious that it’s better for you, the dog, and the two of you as a team. Thanks!!
The jaw structure and the head build on Mace is insane. Very wide and strong. Definitely one of the better Dutch Shepherds I have seen when it comes to exterior. Keep doing the good work 💪 Greetings from The Netherlands! 🇳🇱
Working dogs are another kettle of fish. It takes a skilled intelligent sensitive person to mould them into a boon for human society. Trust is the first process. So glad he landed in Haz's hands.
this content is GOLD! How many people will show you this step by step interaction with a dog like this? Thank you Haz for sharing, We are all excited to see Mace progress.
Finally someone who understands how to deal with dominant dogs instead of being a “tough cowboy”....one thing tough cowboys dont tell most guys is that none of theyre arms work as they used to be,say hello to nerve damage if it happens a lot in youre career
You are so right had a dutchie way back in late 80's. Mase reminds me of Thunder, we turned him into a wonderful Military dog. But it took time. So go slow and do it right as I know you will
Ounce of caution better than pound of cure....really enjoy these "tag along" vids of you & Mace getting to know each other, while you provide the insights to your approach. So important to try to end on a good note...for both you & dog--no frustration. Five minutes out & about, a few commands, rewards then back in the kennel with no conflict. Great "first date" haha
His transformation in such a short time has been amazing. I am curious as to how does a veterinarian examine Mace? What precautions or preparations do you make before you introduce Mace to a vet and how do you expect him to behave while a vet is examining him?
I think it's amazing that you take your time and give Mace the right introduction to Shield K9. To see how far he's come in a week is all too impressive.
Hi Haz, You got your work cut out for you. If anyone can turn this dog around it's you. I see alot of issues with this dog. I'm sure you do to. Very hot.. I'm getting the popcorn ready for this one brother. Good luck.
Nice work Haz, only real working dog trainers know the fealing of taking a dog like Mace out the first few times. Caution is the watch word. Baby steps and you'll get there. 😀
It's always best to play it safe especially in this case where you don't know much about the dog aside from what you are reading in front of you. For me it looks like the relationship is going good for starters. Good job!!
I am pleased to see the rising interest in the United States in Dutch Shepherds. I feel it will secure the future of a magnificent breed that, after World War II, was on the brink of extinction. One thing the Dutch do extremely well is keeping control of breed standards, which means that even if a dog is actually bred in the US, owners can feel secure that it conforms to standards set and controlled by the Dutch parent kennel club. The same situation applies to the magnificent Friesian horses which also came close to extinction as a result of the ravages of WWII but are now thriving again. Here, too, the Americans have played a major role in the Friesians' revival, with the Dutch still maintaining strict control. Every Friesian horse born in the US is not officially a Friesian unless registered as such in the Friesian Stud Book in The Netherlands. Likewise, every Dutch Shepherd's credentials, born in the US or not, are jealously guarded in The Netherlands! Even so the Dutch are, no doubt, quite aware of the massive contribution the Americans are making to the survival of what is in fact the oldest of the three Western European shepherd breeds. Dutch Shepherds are depicted in 17th Century Dutch paintings, looking exactly like they do today!
Hay &Shalom from Israel. Love your channel &can't wait to see more of this series. There's hardly any good info on this topic on RUclips. Most either don't know what they're doing or they hide behind closed doors. I've worked with the most dangerous dogs so I know what I'm talking about. Well done 👏
That was funny sensing the cameraman/woman doing their best to keep some distance between themselves and the dog as you took him out 😆. Beautiful dog. Too much dog for me, but a beautiful dog.
Mace is beautiful. My Dutchie is also very beautiful. In the sun she actually takes my breathe away. I swear she has strands of gold hair around her feet outlined in black. She however is a nightmare to walk so we walk before daylight before anyone else is even awake. 😳since getting her I have bad hair days everyday still I love her. I am learning and practising as much as I can so we can go out more in the daylight. She is probably too much dog for me but I took her because they told me she was a rare low energy Dutch Shepherd. 😵💫haven’t seen it yet.😊
My opinion, I speak from years of experience, I do think your a much better trainer than me ,but that being said, I would have brought mace in to my house and make sure he knew he part of my family, meaning me and him getting close and him understanding that we are one.
Funny. I’ve always considered it barrier frustration, but the correct term is actually “extra stupid”. 😅 I’m going with extra stupid from now on. Love it!
Haz, you mention he takes the food from your hand a little hard. How would you train him to grab it in a more gentle way so your hands don't get chewed up everytime you reward him?
Handsome guy. Very solid. I love the caution that you take with him. An inexperienced trainer would have tried to fix the slip lead around his neck after it slipped down. Easy rookie mistake. You recognize and respect that he’s a powerful dog and you don’t have a developed relationship. One wrong move like you said and the dog could decide to smoke you. Session was quick and sweet. Didn’t focus on trying to correct the dog for pulling on the leash or reacting to the golden retriever (another rookie mistake trainers make).
It will be fun to watch how mace progresses ..it looks like he is quite a powerful dog...I hope he does not have any bad flash backs....hopefully he has never had a bad time of it anywhere..
Fantastic video!!! Curious about the barking.. do you put bark collars on dogs that are already ecollar conditioned? Wont that help decrease overall level of arousal in the kennel?
That was going to be my question as well. I know it’s hard to control barking in a kennel 100% of the time but I wondered if it didn’t hype up an already hyped up dog?
He is a beautiful dutchie! Do you know his BRN# he reminds me very much of some old dogs that chewed up many so called experienced trainers. Putting them away and saying no usually resulted in some serious situations. Seems like a line thing
This Shepherd/Herder doesn't matter to me if it is the Germans, Dutch and Belgian type or a cross of any,this dog is great looking, his temp to me is what I want in a dog to protect, defend me,I would mate him to all of my females /your doing a great job/that's right be caution anything/just take him out on long walks no one around- play the hide and seek game( let him roam then switch direction letting find or catch up to you but make sure there is no place for him to get lost or come in contact with other humans/then about after 2 to 3 of that long walk sit with him on a rock,bench type of thing basically you want him to see you as mommy no commands of hardness/you him to sit or lay next to you maybe a short nap,many times I have come across lost dogs not knowing anything about them long walked make them really follow,respect, and love,,,,keep up with your doing,,everyone does have an opinion, BUT is it really needed to express it if doesn't help,make the person better,teach,useful information, other than that they are waisting time and energy texting/responding with no techniques, helpful advice, etc,keep us posted on him
Hey mate, how do you teach your dog not to take the food from your hand too aggressively?. I have a mal who's 19 months old and he's extremely food motivated. Thanks in advance!
I have some mixed breeds, that I’ve been “training” for mixed use as squirrel treeing, upland bird, AND pet / yard security. Am I trying expect to much from dogs? I realize you specialize in a certain type of training but would my dogs benefit from your online program? They do the “hunting work” excellent and naturally, but I am having issues with the prey drive towards cats specifically.
I should note that these are primarily pets and not expect to preform at the level of any actual working dog, and by “yard security” I mean bark at crack heads lurking in the ally near my wall, and alert me to trespassers. The Mix is a Shar-pei, smooth fox terrier, Mountain Feist. So they are 45lbs, jump 6ft block wall fences, higher for chain. I put up fence extension but might need to make the wire “hot” after they retired the neighbors cat.
@@ca2129 no you are not expecting too much as long as the dog has the drive for it. If they have food or ball drive and a receptive to handlers then you can train them to do pretty much anything. For example, one of my dogs is a wonderful level-headed little angel. Zero food drive and no motivation to do anything but smile at people and other pets. I could never get him to work a day in my life. My other dog looks a lot like mace though. He's a German Shepherd Malinois American Pitbull Terrier mix. He has all the desire to do whatever I want him to do and ball drive so yes I could train him. So that's just my point. You're not wasting your time if the dog has the desire to interact with you and has some type of Drive. If it doesn't work out with those dogs you could always get a working German Shepherd Malinois Dutch Shepherd or a mix of all three. That's what mace is pretty much by the way he's a very selectively bred X herder. But these dogs want to work for people that's why they're used
@@primalcritters thanks Primal! Mine definitely have high pray drive. Little interest in the ball, and will work for treats at the house but when I have them out and about in urban environments they go straight to hunt mode, which is fine for when we go out to practice that, but I’m having trouble turning it off when it’s a non permissive environment. Admittedly I have been pulling back on correcting them, because it is behavior that I want just not at that moment, and the danger for cats.
My opinion (not worth much) is that it depends on where you get the dog. If you get the dog from a shelter definitely male ‘cause females tend to be nervier and you could find 10 stable males for every 1 stable female. If you get the dog from a reputable breeder as a puppy, probably female. It also depends on the breed. (i.e a male English Labrador would arguably be better than a female, but a female Malinois would be better than a male.) The biggest difference in my experience takes place before 2 years old ‘cause canine puberty works similarly to humans. The males will get more aggressive and get frustrated around females who’re in heat, and the females lose energy.
Can dutchies be a family dog ? I know they need a lot of training and work for their drive and energy levels but what kind situation would allow them to be a family dog?
I have no issues with it, great with kids. Key is to socialize them from a very young age (get a pup). Make sure you can exhaust them daily. It is not for everyone, greetings from holland 😉
Working dogs are the WORST for companion and family purposes. GSD, Cattle dogs, Australian sheps, Border Collies etc...stay away. You may get lucky but usually those type of dogs do MUCH better on a farm or in a work setting.
A lot of people seem to want a strong protective dog like a Malli or Dutchie as a family dog because they are strong etc... But a working dog aren't really family dogs. The question is, can you give them a lot of time and walks etc... Yes a working dog may be able to be a good family dog, but obviously less likely. Look at Mace, how much work would it be to see if he will ever be a family dog? Would you trust him with children or other pets?
Not a dumb question. Purebred Malinois or Dutch Shepherd are much finer boned dogs they are lighter and as a result more agile. Because they have not been over bred to the degree that the German Shepherd has due to popularity they are still very healthy because over breeding incorrectly can cause many problems. So in essence, a Dutch Shepherd or a Malinois is very similar to a working German shepherd yet different. Malinois I would say are a little more playful, working German Shepherds are definitely more serious dogs. Dutch Shepherds are somewhere in between, and almost all have Belgian in their pedigree to resuscitate the breed and even working GSD back in the day as well. If you're looking for a pet or family protector I would recommend a working line German Shepherd with a medium drive not too high because it might be too much dog for you, or a Belgian Malinois working German Shepherd mix. Belgians are also amazing, but get from a balanced breeder because they might be just too much energy for the average homeowner and drive you nuts. There are plenty of them sometimes they're just advertised as Belgian Malinois but they're out there. Working German Shepherds just have a better off switch. They're more of an all-around utility dog jack of all trades and it can come rest in the home and be with the family and protect the family. Belgian Malinois are great dogs but the best ones are ones from good breeders that try not to breed dogs that are too neurotic. That is the biggest issue with the breed. But there are a lot of great pluses as well. They make great working dogs for that reason. They want to go go go go and they're very pattern cognizant. Kind of like OCD in a person, they have it in the dog and that is why they are so great at working because they want to get it right every time. Working line German Shepherd or more forgiving and easier dogs to live with. Basically most of the working in military dogs are a mixture of the three shepherd breeds and then sometimes even more. The purebreds are much more thin and lean dogs. Not as thick as this dog, but a working line German Shepherd is still meatier and as a result less agile. They are agile, but a Malinois/Dutch has a better build for agility. If you're getting a show line Dutch Shepherd they look very different from this dog. If you're getting a working line Dutch shepherd, like this dog, it is basically an x herder. Purebred Malinois or purebred Dutch Shepherds are very fine boned dogs with narrow, conical heads. They're nervier and more neurotic than working line German shepherds. That's why the mixture is so good. Balancing the dog in both ability and mind. Show or pet line German Shepherds really aren't part of the working dog world. Working line German Shepherds if you look them up you'll see the difference. They have much larger heads and they are much more substantial looking dogs. Bigger heads more bone etc. Usually Sable or black. Beautiful dogs. Working lines of dutchie or Malinois are bigger because they mix them. That's why they're called X Malinois or X herder. They are mix of Dutch shepherd, Belgian malinois, working line German shepherd, and even other breeds like mastiffs and American pitbull terrier. The dog in the picture you see is a German Shepherd Malinois Pitbull Terrier mix. Some people might think he's a purebred black malinois. He's absolutely not. He doesn't have the narrow conical muzzle of a dutchie or Mal. He's more muscled in body not as fine bound. Bigger chest cavity. Most of the working dogs are basically very selectively bred Shepherd mixes. They can look like a Malinois because Fawn is dominant unless you're breeding Sable to Sable. The Dutch Shepherds & Mals from Holland also add Mastiffs or apbt & WL German Shepherd. That's how they're getting the size the bone the bigger chest cavity, the larger head bigger cheeks bigger bite. Retain the agility and tenacity of the Dutch Shepherd or malinois, but add the stable nerves and the size of the German shepherd. And then other breeds. Right now there's a stud dog and Holland that was just bred to a Presa canaria. They will breed them back to Malinois or Dutch shepherd. One day puppies will come to the states and people will swear they have a 95 lb purebred Malinois or Dutch Shepherd. No it's not purebred. It's a very selectively bred working dog. They do have pedigrees. They just don't care about AKC bs. A good example is a lady named alligator mom. She has four malinois. Her latest one crisis is a female. She has working German Shepherd in her pedigree because I know her lineage. She's also from Holland and you can see the difference. Next to her male malinois, her female is much larger, has a nicer head more bone bone etc. That's from the working German Shepherd. All three beats are great. They do similar jobs only differently. My favorite dog is a blend of all three.
@@primalcritters Actually, Belgian shepherds were the preferred dogs to bring Dutch shepherds back from the brink of extinction. I’d imagine if you’re finding gsd in a Dutch shepherd’s lineage, this is more than likely the result of purpose breeding than it is mistake.
@@shawneboy you are right. I'm talking about way way way back in the day they used German Shepherds to resuscitate the breed. Or German Shepherds as well as belgians
I would also add don't listen to all this team Malinois/Dutch or team German shepherd bs. They're both wonderful breeds that do similar jobs differently. There are pros and cons to each. A working Malinois can be way too much energy for the average owner. A working line German Shepherd can be as well, but they tend to have a better off switch than Malinois. Generally, working German Shepherds look more intimidating because they are just built heavier, but it doesn't mean a Malinois is not just as capable. The main reason why departments are switching from working German Shepherds to Mals and Dutch Shepherds is because it's easier to find Mal's and dutches that are still working dogs, whereas gsds have such a huuuge variety because they are so damn popular. Malinois have also retained their health because they have not been over bred...yet. they are also lighter dogs with shorter coats and easier to transport and can tolerate heat and long work hours better. You don't need a 100 lb dog to do work. Also, Malinois have less self-preservation than a GSD does. Malinois react and working German Shepherds think before they react. This lack of self-preservation is excellent for military and police dogs because they need dogs that will do anything regardless of the danger to themselves. The statement that a Malinois/Dutch is a GSD on crack is kind of true. It's a lot of energy and working German Shepherds already have a plenty of energy so it can be a lot for the average person to handle. I love both breeds. Personally I like the mixture the most when done correctly. I like the longer legs of the Malinois and a tighter coat and Zeal for life, but I like the stability of nerves, more steadfast disposition, less Handler reactivity, and the overall look of the working gsd. Personally, I think a working line male GSD & a female Malinois make very nice puppies. Look up buddy from Blackjack Malinois in the states. He's got the head of the working German shepherd, bone in between Malinois and German shepherd, the off switch of a German Shepherd which is why he's a better personal protection dog, and the square build of the Malinois. They also have another Malinois that I'm sure has Mastiff back in his pedigree. His head is very wide and a shorter muzzle. He's thicker as well. Sorry to go on and on but I really love the mixture of the shepherd breeds.
there can be a major difference between these breeds, from experience Duchies require lots of exercise and mental activity they also always act crazy with energy and can be extremely stubborn at times.
I have never had a dog I was afraid of. I have picked up every dog off the side of the road and even interstate and took them home in their bad condition and they never bit me or my kids. All kinds of breeds. I had them in the house and put them in the bath and they slept inside with my family. Shepherds, Labs, Catahoula, Chow, Boxer, hunting dogs, mix pups, all kinds.
There will be one some day. Mine was a golden retriever who nearly took my face off. Owner brought him in cuz he was “stubborn”. They never told anyone he was a biting machine. And they had to use heavy duty firemen’s gloves to handle him.
I surely… would have cleared the area, in and out…. To limit any surprises of other people and dogs. Less fired up, safer for you. Would have loved to see how your EKG was while putting him away.
He's big because he's an x herder. These are not purebred Dutch Shepherds remember they are the knpv line. They mix in other breeds to increase size and bone as you can see on this dog. He definitely has working German Shepherd back in his pedigree somewhere and I wouldn't be surprised if he has American Pitbull terrier. It's very common. A current stud dog in Holland was bred to a Presa canario. Then they'll breed the puppies back to dutchie or Malinois and then people will think they have a purebred malinois. All the working Malinois and Dutch Shepherds are really X Mals and X herders and the X stands for extra. Blackjack Malinois in the United States has some stud dogs you can see. They called him Malinois but they are really X malinois. Buddy is one of my favorites. He has the really solid nerves like a working line German Shepherd the head of a working line German Shepherd, the bone almost as much as a German shepherd (thicker bones not as light and fine boned like purebred Mals or dutchies), but the body of a malinois. Look him up you'll see exactly what I mean. The Breeders know it they don't care they know what they're doing. They're just trying to breed the best working dogs
@@primalcritters Not ALL working Mal/Dutch are mixed. Most sure, but there are some pure breeders that produce consistent working dogs and have contracts doing so. Both domestic to the US and imported.
@@jfkst1 yes you are right. It's just more rare I would say. I remember there was a buyer from India trying to get dogs for their government and they had a strict rule that they needed FCI only and most people say what the heck how are you going to find that why is your government being so stupid and restrictive? So yes there are purebreds working but generally they are well pedigreed working dogs. To be frank, I think that they should open up the working line German Shepherd stud book and incorporate Malinois and Dutchies to create a working German Shepherd that has longer legs, less angulation, and a slightly shorter back. I love all three breeds, but I really like the herder mixes with WL GSD when done right. And I'm not downgrading mixing the breeds. I think it increases genetic diversity and is better. I think good dogs from all the shepherd breeds should be utilized. And sometimes even other breeds
@@primalcritters The highest quality imported dogs I've seen are from Eastern European herders. Less consistent than KNPV, but really extreme. They aren't KNPV mixed types, rather all herder mixes of GSD/Mal/Dutch. You can see the difference in the two. I've heard KNPV are much more reserved in exporting their higher quality dogs whereas some EE countries (Hungary, Slovakia, Romania, Bulgaria, Serbia) are far more willing. EE is also less deliberate in tracking lineages too where the lower consistency likely comes from.
@@jfkst1 very interesting and I agree. For sure the best dogs are kept in Holland unless you really have an in with a good supplier. And I'm sure that the Eastern European countries are more willing to export is probably due to their economies. I would love to see these dogs and compare.
That dog has a problem with other dogs. How old is he? One suggestion and it's a hard one. Don't take him out past other dogs in the beginning. He gets distracted to easily. Probably because of personality,training and youth.
Good work Haz, Your handling him perfect imo. Mace needs to bond with his handler. People who think your going to slow and cautious. Don't know much about dutchies and malinois. That's all I train..Mace is definitely a dog to be careful ..He's big and his jaw strength is huge from doing bite work. his drive and the breed characteristics make this dangerous work.this dogs could break your forearm with a,strong bite...so untill your figure him out.untill you guys have bonded. I definitely agree with you Haz.. Your a great trainer.
True if you allow dogs to jump on you, you lose the mastery. I rhink owners get scared & allow it. Dog knows now, "hey new guy you're not here to hurt" me' right? Just teach some good attentive manners.
@@NCHeel Right? I don’t understand what he’s means by “go in the field”. Is he saying you need to euthanize a dog who takes a dump in the grass instead of a toilet?
@@naturallycurlyhair4413 or just dump him in a field to die because he is a strong working dog who needs guidance-but is mistaking him for an aggressive dog that will eventually be put down?? I used to live in a very high puppy mill area. The pups that didn’t sell were put in the farm fields and shot, then run over with the tractors.
looking at some point buying a dutch shepard , bang on like yours , had bull breeds for years , how strong are them shepards , as he dosent look as strong as what i have, was watching you controlling with one hand , no way could you get away with that from my bullies, but i am seriously interested,
You just like to hear yourself talk. Stay on topic. You are all over the place. You try to carry on con conversations like you are two different people. This is not meant to be mean.
I feel like this is the most underrated channel on RUclips, I can’t wait to see you hit a million subscribers, hopefully way sooner than later
I agree
Absolutely. What I love about him is that he's not a RUclips trainer. He's a real trainer and an all-around awesome person and happens to post content on RUclips
Agree! If he up’s his video banners and titles a bit, I feel like so many people would watch this. Cause the content is 🔥 🔥 🔥
I agree with you 100% Haz! It's so important to take your time and BE CAREFUL when dealing with dogs like this.
I remember when I was a Kennel Tech we had a GSD who had shown NO history of aggression and I went to pick him up one day and put him on a table so we could treat an injury on his paw. He refused to jump on the table and so the moment he felt me picking him up he just snapped and before I knew it he just chewed my arm up and I ended up having to get 18 stitches. I've lost all feeling in my forearm because of the damaged nerves from that one bite and it happened so fast. And sure enough, after that he began developing a habit of biting other people anytime they did something to him he didn't like. So yeah, you definitely can't let them get away with that sort of behavior and that's why it's best to avoid it at all costs.
It SUCKS to get bit and I would NEVER want to go through that experience ever again so I don't blame you one bit for taking your time and being careful. You do you brother! You know what your doing. Don't let the online trolls phase you 😊
I had to rewatch it. As soon as he gets outside he becomes a wonderful dog. His stance and presence commands respect. What a great dog to have.
This was great to watch and learn from. I don’t understand how anyone would criticize your method that aims for minimizing losses and maximizing wins. It’s blatantly obvious that it’s better for you, the dog, and the two of you as a team. Thanks!!
The jaw structure and the head build on Mace is insane. Very wide and strong. Definitely one of the better Dutch Shepherds I have seen when it comes to exterior. Keep doing the good work 💪
Greetings from The Netherlands! 🇳🇱
Thank the german shepherd
He looks soooo strong!!!! You do awesome work Haz! Have learned a lot from you.
Working dogs are another kettle of fish. It takes a skilled intelligent sensitive person to mould them into a boon for human society. Trust is the first process. So glad he landed in Haz's hands.
this content is GOLD! How many people will show you this step by step interaction with a dog like this? Thank you Haz for sharing, We are all excited to see Mace progress.
Beautiful functional boy. Best looking Dutchie I've seen in a long time.
Finally someone who understands how to deal with dominant dogs instead of being a “tough cowboy”....one thing tough cowboys dont tell most guys is that none of theyre arms work as they used to be,say hello to nerve damage if it happens a lot in youre career
Good control in building a solid relationship avoiding initially putting out Mace for failure. Well done.
You are so right had a dutchie way back in late 80's. Mase reminds me of Thunder, we turned him into a wonderful Military dog. But it took time. So go slow and do it right as I know you will
What a commanding presence Mace has a great looking Dutch you do great work thanks for the video.
Ounce of caution better than pound of cure....really enjoy these "tag along" vids of you & Mace getting to know each other, while you provide the insights to your approach. So important to try to end on a good note...for both you & dog--no frustration. Five minutes out & about, a few commands, rewards then back in the kennel with no conflict. Great "first date" haha
His transformation in such a short time has been amazing. I am curious as to how does a veterinarian examine Mace? What precautions or preparations do you make before you introduce Mace to a vet and how do you expect him to behave while a vet is examining him?
Hes a beautiful dog, intense but really cool example of the breed. Look forward to seeing his progress!
so great to see this backstage videos about the day to day operations!
I love this guy he knows his shit love this channel ❤😊
Please keep us updated on Mace! I love this series.
Im loving this, he seemed happy the entire time.
I know nothing about Dutch Shepherds, but I appreciate you setting this boy up for success. My pack of Papillons and I thank you.
Nice Work as I said before patience and time is key. The dog is beast full of confidence,in my opinion you're approaching this the right way 👌
I think it's amazing that you take your time and give Mace the right introduction to Shield K9. To see how far he's come in a week is all too impressive.
Hi Haz,
You got your work cut out for you.
If anyone can turn this dog around it's you.
I see alot of issues with this dog.
I'm sure you do to.
Very hot..
I'm getting the popcorn ready for this one brother.
Good luck.
Thank you for all your free content! I have learned so much from your channel!
I watched your his return video first (Mace)this is like a déjà vu...! Like you knew exactly what Mace was capable of
Wow ,that is an intense Mace. Can't wait to watch his progress over time.
That is a BIG Dutchie, dang. His head looks huge. Beautiful boy!
Haz. You know what you are doing and why you are doing it. Plenty 'experts' our there commenting. Mace is a great dog.
Great work Sir,
Love from Scotland 🏴
Nice work Haz, only real working dog trainers know the fealing of taking a dog like Mace out the first few times. Caution is the watch word. Baby steps and you'll get there. 😀
I’m really loving your content mate. It’s very real and straight to the point, no bullshit. 🇦🇺 🍻
Thank You So Much For Updating The Video!!! Keep Up The Good Work!!! Until The Next Video 😁
It's always best to play it safe especially in this case where you don't know much about the dog aside from what you are reading in front of you. For me it looks like the relationship is going good for starters. Good job!!
I like your videos a lot I train working dogs and I always learn from watching them the channel is great
I see this dog as a monster regardless of his behavioral problems of being reactive, I think he’s gonna be a stud
This is a super dog. So interesting tlo watch Haz training him
That’s a solid dog.
He's well built Dutchie. Solid!
I can see why people get duchies without knowing what they’re getting into, mace is an absolutely gorgeous dog.
Super good video.. amazing patience and wisdom you're showing. I trust them waay to early and am careless.. been bit over 10 times
No such thing as too cautious 💯
This channel is definitely caps UNDERRATED!!!
Great Video, always thinking about what's best for the dogs and not ego!
I am pleased to see the rising interest in the United States in Dutch Shepherds. I feel it will secure the future of a magnificent breed that, after World War II, was on the brink of extinction. One thing the Dutch do extremely well is keeping control of breed standards, which means that even if a dog is actually bred in the US, owners can feel secure that it conforms to standards set and controlled by the Dutch parent kennel club. The same situation applies to the magnificent Friesian horses which also came close to extinction as a result of the ravages of WWII but are now thriving again. Here, too, the Americans have played a major role in the Friesians' revival, with the Dutch still maintaining strict control. Every Friesian horse born in the US is not officially a Friesian unless registered as such in the Friesian Stud Book in The Netherlands. Likewise, every Dutch Shepherd's credentials, born in the US or not, are jealously guarded in The Netherlands! Even so the Dutch are, no doubt, quite aware of the massive contribution the Americans are making to the survival of what is in fact the oldest of the three Western European shepherd breeds. Dutch Shepherds are depicted in 17th Century Dutch paintings, looking exactly like they do today!
Hay &Shalom from Israel. Love your channel &can't wait to see more of this series. There's hardly any good info on this topic on RUclips. Most either don't know what they're doing or they hide behind closed doors. I've worked with the most dangerous dogs so I know what I'm talking about. Well done 👏
Impressive animal! Would love to see his progress in your training program
That was funny sensing the cameraman/woman doing their best to keep some distance between themselves and the dog as you took him out 😆. Beautiful dog. Too much dog for me, but a beautiful dog.
Mace is beautiful. My Dutchie is also very beautiful. In the sun she actually takes my breathe away. I swear she has strands of gold hair around her feet outlined in black. She however is a nightmare to walk so we walk before daylight before anyone else is even awake. 😳since getting her I have bad hair days everyday still I love her. I am learning and practising as much as I can so we can go out more in the daylight. She is probably too much dog for me but I took her because they told me she was a rare low energy Dutch Shepherd. 😵💫haven’t seen it yet.😊
My opinion, I speak from years of experience, I do think your a much better trainer than me ,but that being said, I would have brought mace in to my house and make sure he knew he part of my family, meaning me and him getting close and him understanding that we are one.
Love these episodes of mace
Talking about invictus K9. I like the guy and his dogs but definitely uncalled for. Your work is top tier.
Funny. I’ve always considered it barrier frustration, but the correct term is actually “extra stupid”. 😅 I’m going with extra stupid from now on. Love it!
ultra power...es enorme
y very pretty
Haz, you mention he takes the food from your hand a little hard. How would you train him to grab it in a more gentle way so your hands don't get chewed up everytime you reward him?
Great message. Im guessing training dogs is your primary job and it’s hard to work if you’re injured.
Haz, dont listen to the haters. Keep up the great videos!
You can never be too careful
Handsome guy. Very solid. I love the caution that you take with him. An inexperienced trainer would have tried to fix the slip lead around his neck after it slipped down. Easy rookie mistake. You recognize and respect that he’s a powerful dog and you don’t have a developed relationship. One wrong move like you said and the dog could decide to smoke you. Session was quick and sweet. Didn’t focus on trying to correct the dog for pulling on the leash or reacting to the golden retriever (another rookie mistake trainers make).
It will be fun to watch how mace progresses ..it looks like he is quite a powerful dog...I hope he does not have any bad flash backs....hopefully he has never had a bad time of it anywhere..
Fantastic video!!! Curious about the barking.. do you put bark collars on dogs that are already ecollar conditioned? Wont that help decrease overall level of arousal in the kennel?
That was going to be my question as well. I know it’s hard to control barking in a kennel 100% of the time but I wondered if it didn’t hype up an already hyped up dog?
He is a beautiful dutchie! Do you know his BRN# he reminds me very much of some old dogs that chewed up many so called experienced trainers. Putting them away and saying no usually resulted in some serious situations. Seems like a line thing
This Shepherd/Herder doesn't matter to me if it is the Germans, Dutch and Belgian type or a cross of any,this dog is great looking, his temp to me is what I want in a dog to protect, defend me,I would mate him to all of my females /your doing a great job/that's right be caution anything/just take him out on long walks no one around- play the hide and seek game( let him roam then switch direction letting find or catch up to you but make sure there is no place for him to get lost or come in contact with other humans/then about after 2 to 3 of that long walk sit with him on a rock,bench type of thing basically you want him to see you as mommy no commands of hardness/you him to sit or lay next to you maybe a short nap,many times I have come across lost dogs not knowing anything about them long walked make them really follow,respect, and love,,,,keep up with your doing,,everyone does have an opinion, BUT is it really needed to express it if doesn't help,make the person better,teach,useful information, other than that they are waisting time and energy texting/responding with no techniques, helpful advice, etc,keep us posted on him
Those telling you to go in kennel prematurely are armchair warriors salivating for a show.
This is possibly the nicest Dutch shepherd I’ve ever seen ❤ what is his breeding?
Dam he id built nice, not just a brindle mal💪
This is what a professional dog handler of real working dogs does. Do NOT think you can do this.
Oooo I like him!!! Too much for me but he will be a great dog!!
Hey mate, how do you teach your dog not to take the food from your hand too aggressively?. I have a mal who's 19 months old and he's extremely food motivated. Thanks in advance!
what a massive dog.
He is a gorgeous dog, its ashame dutchies are crazy
Mine only gets into a biting mood unless he feels scared and he’s in his cage and I try to reach in to grab him out
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I have some mixed breeds, that I’ve been “training” for mixed use as squirrel treeing, upland bird, AND pet / yard security. Am I trying expect to much from dogs? I realize you specialize in a certain type of training but would my dogs benefit from your online program? They do the “hunting work” excellent and naturally, but I am having issues with the prey drive towards cats specifically.
I should note that these are primarily pets and not expect to preform at the level of any actual working dog, and by “yard security” I mean bark at crack heads lurking in the ally near my wall, and alert me to trespassers. The Mix is a Shar-pei, smooth fox terrier, Mountain Feist. So they are 45lbs, jump 6ft block wall fences, higher for chain. I put up fence extension but might need to make the wire “hot” after they retired the neighbors cat.
@@ca2129 no you are not expecting too much as long as the dog has the drive for it. If they have food or ball drive and a receptive to handlers then you can train them to do pretty much anything. For example, one of my dogs is a wonderful level-headed little angel. Zero food drive and no motivation to do anything but smile at people and other pets. I could never get him to work a day in my life. My other dog looks a lot like mace though. He's a German Shepherd Malinois American Pitbull Terrier mix. He has all the desire to do whatever I want him to do and ball drive so yes I could train him. So that's just my point. You're not wasting your time if the dog has the desire to interact with you and has some type of Drive. If it doesn't work out with those dogs you could always get a working German Shepherd Malinois Dutch Shepherd or a mix of all three. That's what mace is pretty much by the way he's a very selectively bred X herder. But these dogs want to work for people that's why they're used
@@primalcritters thanks Primal! Mine definitely have high pray drive. Little interest in the ball, and will work for treats at the house but when I have them out and about in urban environments they go straight to hunt mode, which is fine for when we go out to practice that, but I’m having trouble turning it off when it’s a non permissive environment. Admittedly I have been pulling back on correcting them, because it is behavior that I want just not at that moment, and the danger for cats.
He looks big
I was wondering why he's missing the teeth between the canines.
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Hi pal, what’s the best to have around kids? Males or females? Cheers pal
My opinion (not worth much) is that it depends on where you get the dog. If you get the dog from a shelter definitely male ‘cause females tend to be nervier and you could find 10 stable males for every 1 stable female. If you get the dog from a reputable breeder as a puppy, probably female. It also depends on the breed. (i.e a male English Labrador would arguably be better than a female, but a female Malinois would be better than a male.) The biggest difference in my experience takes place before 2 years old ‘cause canine puberty works similarly to humans. The males will get more aggressive and get frustrated around females who’re in heat, and the females lose energy.
Ok thanks for letting me know 👍
what happened to mace's teeth that he is missing???
Can dutchies be a family dog ? I know they need a lot of training and work for their drive and energy levels but what kind situation would allow them to be a family dog?
No
I have no issues with it, great with kids. Key is to socialize them from a very young age (get a pup). Make sure you can exhaust them daily. It is not for everyone, greetings from holland 😉
Working dogs are the WORST for companion and family purposes. GSD, Cattle dogs, Australian sheps, Border Collies etc...stay away. You may get lucky but usually those type of dogs do MUCH better on a farm or in a work setting.
@@adamm5054 There are no worst dogs, there are terrible owners tho. On my third dutch now, never had a single problem.
A lot of people seem to want a strong protective dog like a Malli or Dutchie as a family dog because they are strong etc... But a working dog aren't really family dogs. The question is, can you give them a lot of time and walks etc... Yes a working dog may be able to be a good family dog, but obviously less likely. Look at Mace, how much work would it be to see if he will ever be a family dog? Would you trust him with children or other pets?
I hate to ask a silly question but what is a Dutch compared to a German shepherd is there a difference
Not a dumb question. Purebred Malinois or Dutch Shepherd are much finer boned dogs they are lighter and as a result more agile. Because they have not been over bred to the degree that the German Shepherd has due to popularity they are still very healthy because over breeding incorrectly can cause many problems. So in essence, a Dutch Shepherd or a Malinois is very similar to a working German shepherd yet different. Malinois I would say are a little more playful, working German Shepherds are definitely more serious dogs. Dutch Shepherds are somewhere in between, and almost all have Belgian in their pedigree to resuscitate the breed and even working GSD back in the day as well.
If you're looking for a pet or family protector I would recommend a working line German Shepherd with a medium drive not too high because it might be too much dog for you, or a Belgian Malinois working German Shepherd mix. Belgians are also amazing, but get from a balanced breeder because they might be just too much energy for the average homeowner and drive you nuts. There are plenty of them sometimes they're just advertised as Belgian Malinois but they're out there. Working German Shepherds just have a better off switch. They're more of an all-around utility dog jack of all trades and it can come rest in the home and be with the family and protect the family. Belgian Malinois are great dogs but the best ones are ones from good breeders that try not to breed dogs that are too neurotic. That is the biggest issue with the breed. But there are a lot of great pluses as well. They make great working dogs for that reason. They want to go go go go and they're very pattern cognizant. Kind of like OCD in a person, they have it in the dog and that is why they are so great at working because they want to get it right every time. Working line German Shepherd or more forgiving and easier dogs to live with.
Basically most of the working in military dogs are a mixture of the three shepherd breeds and then sometimes even more. The purebreds are much more thin and lean dogs. Not as thick as this dog, but a working line German Shepherd is still meatier and as a result less agile. They are agile, but a Malinois/Dutch has a better build for agility.
If you're getting a show line Dutch Shepherd they look very different from this dog. If you're getting a working line Dutch shepherd, like this dog, it is basically an x herder. Purebred Malinois or purebred Dutch Shepherds are very fine boned dogs with narrow, conical heads. They're nervier and more neurotic than working line German shepherds. That's why the mixture is so good. Balancing the dog in both ability and mind. Show or pet line German Shepherds really aren't part of the working dog world. Working line German Shepherds if you look them up you'll see the difference. They have much larger heads and they are much more substantial looking dogs. Bigger heads more bone etc. Usually Sable or black. Beautiful dogs. Working lines of dutchie or Malinois are bigger because they mix them. That's why they're called X Malinois or X herder. They are mix of Dutch shepherd, Belgian malinois, working line German shepherd, and even other breeds like mastiffs and American pitbull terrier. The dog in the picture you see is a German Shepherd Malinois Pitbull Terrier mix. Some people might think he's a purebred black malinois. He's absolutely not. He doesn't have the narrow conical muzzle of a dutchie or Mal. He's more muscled in body not as fine bound. Bigger chest cavity. Most of the working dogs are basically very selectively bred Shepherd mixes. They can look like a Malinois because Fawn is dominant unless you're breeding Sable to Sable. The Dutch Shepherds & Mals from Holland also add Mastiffs or apbt & WL German Shepherd. That's how they're getting the size the bone the bigger chest cavity, the larger head bigger cheeks bigger bite. Retain the agility and tenacity of the Dutch Shepherd or malinois, but add the stable nerves and the size of the German shepherd. And then other breeds. Right now there's a stud dog and Holland that was just bred to a Presa canaria. They will breed them back to Malinois or Dutch shepherd. One day puppies will come to the states and people will swear they have a 95 lb purebred Malinois or Dutch Shepherd. No it's not purebred. It's a very selectively bred working dog. They do have pedigrees. They just don't care about AKC bs.
A good example is a lady named alligator mom. She has four malinois. Her latest one crisis is a female. She has working German Shepherd in her pedigree because I know her lineage. She's also from Holland and you can see the difference. Next to her male malinois, her female is much larger, has a nicer head more bone bone etc. That's from the working German Shepherd. All three beats are great. They do similar jobs only differently. My favorite dog is a blend of all three.
@@primalcritters Actually, Belgian shepherds were the preferred dogs to bring Dutch shepherds back from the brink of extinction. I’d imagine if you’re finding gsd in a Dutch shepherd’s lineage, this is more than likely the result of purpose breeding than it is mistake.
@@shawneboy you are right. I'm talking about way way way back in the day they used German Shepherds to resuscitate the breed. Or German Shepherds as well as belgians
I would also add don't listen to all this team Malinois/Dutch or team German shepherd bs. They're both wonderful breeds that do similar jobs differently. There are pros and cons to each. A working Malinois can be way too much energy for the average owner. A working line German Shepherd can be as well, but they tend to have a better off switch than Malinois. Generally, working German Shepherds look more intimidating because they are just built heavier, but it doesn't mean a Malinois is not just as capable. The main reason why departments are switching from working German Shepherds to Mals and Dutch Shepherds is because it's easier to find Mal's and dutches that are still working dogs, whereas gsds have such a huuuge variety because they are so damn popular. Malinois have also retained their health because they have not been over bred...yet. they are also lighter dogs with shorter coats and easier to transport and can tolerate heat and long work hours better. You don't need a 100 lb dog to do work. Also, Malinois have less self-preservation than a GSD does. Malinois react and working German Shepherds think before they react. This lack of self-preservation is excellent for military and police dogs because they need dogs that will do anything regardless of the danger to themselves.
The statement that a Malinois/Dutch is a GSD on crack is kind of true. It's a lot of energy and working German Shepherds already have a plenty of energy so it can be a lot for the average person to handle. I love both breeds. Personally I like the mixture the most when done correctly. I like the longer legs of the Malinois and a tighter coat and Zeal for life, but I like the stability of nerves, more steadfast disposition, less Handler reactivity, and the overall look of the working gsd. Personally, I think a working line male GSD & a female Malinois make very nice puppies. Look up buddy from Blackjack Malinois in the states. He's got the head of the working German shepherd, bone in between Malinois and German shepherd, the off switch of a German Shepherd which is why he's a better personal protection dog, and the square build of the Malinois. They also have another Malinois that I'm sure has Mastiff back in his pedigree. His head is very wide and a shorter muzzle. He's thicker as well. Sorry to go on and on but I really love the mixture of the shepherd breeds.
there can be a major difference between these breeds, from experience Duchies require lots of exercise and mental activity they also always act crazy with energy and can be extremely stubborn at times.
I have never had a dog I was afraid of. I have picked up every dog off the side of the road and even interstate and took them home in their bad condition and they never bit me or my kids. All kinds of breeds. I had them in the house and put them in the bath and they slept inside with my family. Shepherds, Labs, Catahoula, Chow, Boxer, hunting dogs, mix pups, all kinds.
There will be one some day. Mine was a golden retriever who nearly took my face off. Owner brought him in cuz he was “stubborn”. They never told anyone he was a biting machine. And they had to use heavy duty firemen’s gloves to handle him.
To have a great working dog for sport or serious protection you don’t need a maniac like this.
I surely… would have cleared the area, in and out…. To limit any surprises of other people and dogs. Less fired up, safer for you.
Would have loved to see how your EKG was while putting him away.
Any fool can get bitten its the one's who dont get bitten that win at the end of the day.😇
Luv your videos. The person that said that to you is a jerk🗽
He looks huge, ...80lbs??
He's big because he's an x herder. These are not purebred Dutch Shepherds remember they are the knpv line. They mix in other breeds to increase size and bone as you can see on this dog. He definitely has working German Shepherd back in his pedigree somewhere and I wouldn't be surprised if he has American Pitbull terrier. It's very common. A current stud dog in Holland was bred to a Presa canario. Then they'll breed the puppies back to dutchie or Malinois and then people will think they have a purebred malinois. All the working Malinois and Dutch Shepherds are really X Mals and X herders and the X stands for extra. Blackjack Malinois in the United States has some stud dogs you can see. They called him Malinois but they are really X malinois. Buddy is one of my favorites. He has the really solid nerves like a working line German Shepherd the head of a working line German Shepherd, the bone almost as much as a German shepherd (thicker bones not as light and fine boned like purebred Mals or dutchies), but the body of a malinois. Look him up you'll see exactly what I mean. The Breeders know it they don't care they know what they're doing. They're just trying to breed the best working dogs
@@primalcritters Not ALL working Mal/Dutch are mixed. Most sure, but there are some pure breeders that produce consistent working dogs and have contracts doing so. Both domestic to the US and imported.
@@jfkst1 yes you are right. It's just more rare I would say. I remember there was a buyer from India trying to get dogs for their government and they had a strict rule that they needed FCI only and most people say what the heck how are you going to find that why is your government being so stupid and restrictive? So yes there are purebreds working but generally they are well pedigreed working dogs. To be frank, I think that they should open up the working line German Shepherd stud book and incorporate Malinois and Dutchies to create a working German Shepherd that has longer legs, less angulation, and a slightly shorter back. I love all three breeds, but I really like the herder mixes with WL GSD when done right. And I'm not downgrading mixing the breeds. I think it increases genetic diversity and is better. I think good dogs from all the shepherd breeds should be utilized. And sometimes even other breeds
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The highest quality imported dogs I've seen are from Eastern European herders. Less consistent than KNPV, but really extreme. They aren't KNPV mixed types, rather all herder mixes of GSD/Mal/Dutch. You can see the difference in the two. I've heard KNPV are much more reserved in exporting their higher quality dogs whereas some EE countries (Hungary, Slovakia, Romania, Bulgaria, Serbia) are far more willing. EE is also less deliberate in tracking lineages too where the lower consistency likely comes from.
@@jfkst1 very interesting and I agree. For sure the best dogs are kept in Holland unless you really have an in with a good supplier. And I'm sure that the Eastern European countries are more willing to export is probably due to their economies. I would love to see these dogs and compare.
That dog has a problem with other dogs. How old is he? One suggestion and it's a hard one. Don't take him out past other dogs in the beginning. He gets distracted to easily. Probably because of personality,training and youth.
Good work Haz,
Your handling him perfect imo.
Mace needs to bond with his handler.
People who think your going to slow and cautious. Don't know much about dutchies and malinois.
That's all I train..Mace is definitely a dog to be careful ..He's big and his jaw strength is huge from doing bite work. his drive and the breed characteristics make this dangerous work.this dogs could break your forearm with a,strong bite...so untill your figure him out.untill you guys have bonded.
I definitely agree with you Haz..
Your a great trainer.
True if you allow dogs to jump on you, you lose the mastery. I rhink owners get scared & allow it. Dog knows now, "hey new guy you're not here to hurt" me' right? Just teach some good attentive manners.
Why are I getting notified of you tube videos? Right now I just check on youtube and see if one has posted...anyone else??
No excuse necessary it’s only common practices of course you don’t know the dog move on
I don't get your methods at all
i learned today where dogs that go in the field go. you're training a dog that needs to be adopted or put down. congrats
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That makes no sense. It's a raw dog that needs structure. Nothing wrong with that dog.
@@NCHeel its adolescent with frame. don't cop out and say that makes no sense. better train him fast times ticking.
@@NCHeel Right? I don’t understand what he’s means by “go in the field”. Is he saying you need to euthanize a dog who takes a dump in the grass instead of a toilet?
@@naturallycurlyhair4413 or just dump him in a field to die because he is a strong working dog who needs guidance-but is mistaking him for an aggressive dog that will eventually be put down??
I used to live in a very high puppy mill area. The pups that didn’t sell were put in the farm fields and shot, then run over with the tractors.
looking at some point buying a dutch shepard , bang on like yours ,
had bull breeds for years , how strong are them shepards , as he dosent look as strong as what i have, was watching you controlling with one hand , no way could you get away with that from my bullies, but i am seriously interested,
You just like to hear yourself talk. Stay on topic. You are all over the place. You try to carry on con conversations like you are two different people. This is not meant to be mean.