Wonderful. That is how we attained pure breeds anyways. Pure breeds are actually a mix we just continue to line breed that mix. Adding new blood from a breed that performs a similar function keeps all those instincts in the genetics. Beautiful puppies. Love that you are mixing wonderful parents.
I'm a little bias, having a 50/50 Malinois/German Shepherd mix but this is brilliant! Agree with every single word! Honestly the best dog training content. Very tempted by the online training program 👍
glad you mentioned they have apbt in the malinois some people refuse to believe that but there’s very few dogs with the intensity of a game bred american pitbull terrier
I THINK YOU ARE 100%. The issues take place when unscrupulous breeders start doing mixing and breedings for the pure sake of selling garbage puppies, that eventually end up in shelters. NOT A GOOD THING FOR THE DOGS. Thank you fro sharing your knowledge with us.
Very good! Every population need genetic variety to stay healthy and thrive. One of the reasons the GSP has many health issues is because it stayed too pure bred for too long, too much inbreeding. So mixing with a good healthy similar dog like the malinois and than bringing the cubs back to the GSP will help a lot the german shepherd.
I own a Malinois and she's without a doubt the best dog I've ever raised/ worked with . I have always been intrigued with the breeding programs that mix the GSD with the Malinois. I'm really happy to see you stress the importance of 100% knowing the dogs your breeding together. Great video. I'm pretty new to your channel but really liking what I'm seeing so far .
@@ZigzauerLT I never said I wanted anything . Just that the possibilities intrigued me . Sometimes this type of breeding , done the right way can actually "breed out" the health problems that generations of improper breeding has created . Your comment shows a fundamental lack of understanding the benefits of a proper breeding program.
Very nice considerations. I agreed very much with your opinion. People forget that open breeding will recall all basal traits within the involved lines. When you mix with well known lineages you are actually doing something like a open breeding, balancing known traits, weekness and strongness.
nice informational video as always. Always simple, straight to the point without sugar coating. I see quite a bit of changes in your videos now a days. You are smiling, nice. Keep up the good work and thank you for all your videos.
I have a puppy gsd mal mix and he is amazing the sire is a 3 quarter GSD the sire is full mal the mal definitely stands out in appearance more but the GSD made him a little easier in our down time
WOW!!! I have two dogs one is Husky/Lab/Pitt about two years old and the other is Husky/Lab just under 10 weeks old, there not related and I was thinking about training them to be protection dogs they have (at least to me) what someone looks for in good protection dogs but I haven't seen any Huskies in this line of work, I know it's because of there hi independent strong nature but I think the Lab in them makes them more mellow and easy to train, so I am to try my best they are so smart and I know they can do it!!
I have a beautiful GSD(75%)/malinois(25%)mix and she is the best of both worlds :) She has a straight back, has a good character, reactive, but not a chicken + as a bonus she is soo gorgeus (Black) :)
Briliant ... 150 years ago Dutch/German/Belgian shepherds were more or less one and the same breed. From a farm working background (not sporting). Then they were bred into separate pedigrees. Now you're asking if it is OK to mix them again.
The people who are completely against mixing dog breeds are most likely dog show enthusiasts or just people who don't have experience with working dogs. Ask many protection (mainly the "bandog" breeders) or hunting/catch dog breeders and you will find plenty of mixes. Lots of pitbull/hound mixes in the hunting world. The point of the mix, though, has to be pairing two individual dogs that complement each other well, both in their physical and mental characteristics. I think when you're talking about working dogs, "breed" is of secondary performance to the INDIVIDUAL dogs being bred and the lines that they come from, and when you pair two dogs that compliment each other well.
The dog show enthusiasts are the same people ruining breeds like German Shepherds and Belgian Malinois, too. Dog shows like that need to be outlawed. I had seen this one show, where they would take dogs and have them run through obstacle courses, scent work, then bite work near the end. Now THAT'S a dog show.
I'm familiar with working dogs and I'm not a big fan of mixing types. Two herders is much more likely to yield a positive outcome IMO. I have a F9 bandog and she still possesses major weaknesses with bully defense drive and mastiff nerves. I just don't know if breeding can be tight enough to have consistency when types are mixed.
@@jfkst1 I mean there's never going to a breed with all perfect dogs, but consistently good, deep generation "bandog-type" lines definitely exist. The best example would be the Doggo Argentino, although breeders seem to be overproducing and selecting good dogs from what I have heard. In the US we have Manson Family Bandogs and American Sentinel K9s, as well as some other smaller programs with good lines. Slovakia has some good programs with really tight, consistent lines like Andante and Camorra, about what I've heard good things. I have no experience breeding, but from what I hear, I would agree that finding consistency takes a lot of work and the dogs selected need a lot of vetting in terms of pedigree. Take my opinion for what it's worth.
Excellent video. I have a 7 month old 50/50 who's so intelligent. I agree that he is intense, with the Mal predominating, as that breed is a little more intense on multiple levels.
I’m looking for a small gsd pup that has a good Pedigree (for stable nerves good temperament and bones structure) with low prey drive for my home and family preferably a a smaller build if you have any advice on what bloodline to seek out I’d appreciate it. And also you said the gsd weighs 65lbs is that full grown? Thanks love the videos
those dna tests are a joke i payed a real lab to run k9 dna and my staffy really is a apbt love your channel i learn so much even if my pup is just a companion dog that isnt a protection dog thanks for always being honest and blunt
Just because you have a working line doesnt mean it would eat a showline, I’ve seen a showline mop the floor with a working line! Cane corso would eat those two small dogs for lunch!
I have a 46 pound black male GSD he jumps fences climbs ..sniffing..and protection isn't even the word with this guy..he out does all the malinois at the park one jumps a little better..But my boy is twice more powerful when you feel him on a leash..Has anyone ever seen a GSD as small as mine??
Thank you for sharing. Very good information as always. Do you have a link to what your 75% / 25% (GSD / Malinois) looks like as an adult? Keep up the good work!
Hi, what are your thoughts on crossing GSD with LGD breeds like kangal, alabai, akbash? The reason I think these could be good is these breeds bring robustness, can weather through tough nature extremes, good running long distance, good health. I’d love to know from a professional’s perspective.
I have a Veo dog. A East european shepherd- In the 1930s the Russian military,imported German shepherds.The Red star kennel wanted to make the perfect guard patrole dog for the army,and the KGB. They started to mix in LGD dogs like the Alabai ,Cacausian Ovcharka and the hunting dog Sibirian laika. The Veo dog,is a very powerfull guard dog,but you have to keep in mind,that when you mix in mollose dogs in the German shepherd. You will get a more stubborn dog. The dog will sometimes question your command,
I have a 67 pound Czech line Male, and he is so much more athletic than any other dog I've owned. We do tracking training, obedience, and will add new areas as we see what he does well and is happy doing. I just read a comment by a woman in Los Angeles who was gushing about the GSD/Husky mix she would be bringing home in two weeks, and what a beautiful dog it would grow into. That is pretty f'd up to me, neither breed likes apartment/city living and the high temps common there (I used to live in Pasadena). That sort of thinking, treating dogs like hand bags, is just pathetic and basically abusive. Neglectful treatment is abuse, and not providing for the needs of the breed YOU CHOSE to take responsibility for is just wrong.
Doberman are perfect as they are, the only breed to be bred specifically for protection and nothing else! These dogs are amazing family dogs despite being hardcore bad ass! What would you mix it with to improve if?
@@ianmcdonald3053 They are riddled with health issues, some dropping dead as earlier as 1/2 years. I am not an outcross expert, just saying i think it could be beneficial
Superb channel Down to earth, grounded wisdom! In the days of the Cockerpoo, Jackerpoo etc, it's a shame that people don't listen to videos like this often enough But money talks, even among dog lovers,.incredibly sad!
He's said in another video they're usually riddled with health issues or are poor temperament. I haven't met many, but have seen several examples of poor health.
I’m a truck driver and strongly considering getting a dog…do you feel 1 breed over the other will be suitable for that lifestyle? Or do u think either would be ok for an over the road lifestyle? I obviously would have to make time to stimulate them daily but just wanting a professional opinion thanks!!
There are tons of truckers that have dogs. I’ve heard of everything from Pit Bulls to German Shepherds to Yorkies!! Best is to do some research on breeds. Then start speaking to quality breeders. Find one that you like. And go from there.
Wow so either way you should be breading responsibly! Who would have thought. Sorry pardon me being a wise ass. One advantage of crossing Mal and GSD lines that you did not mention is the addition of genetic diversity to the line producing healthier dogs in the long run and avoiding genetic conditions that may appear even in responsible breeding. It sounds like you bread responsibly so there may not be a difference in the first generation but I’m almost positive a difference in overall health would be seen several generations down the road.
Can you further explain in more detail the Malinois handler sensitivity . I’ve heard this mentioned many times . I’m assuming the don’t take correction as well ?
Basically, they are better at recognizing patterns and much quicker thinkers imo. So they often know the correction is coming and panic, that makes the punishment itself more severe.
Yes, you are right . They don’t take corrections as well. They might redirect ... they need a firm handler with a light hand compared to a German shepherd
You are correct regarding working dogs in Europe don't have pedigree. This simply because they are not the same as the established breed and they are only bred based on what they can do. The military unit that is growing them is not selling them to the public and in most cases are not suitable for pets. They could even have wolf in the blood on purpose or by accident. The point is when you sell this dogs to the general public you are giving something that not many people are ready to handle.
I love my pure bred dogs but sometimes crossing is just needed. I adopted a lab mix and he has all sorts in him, he'd make an amazing working dog but in my area they are just too snobby to give him a chance. He is amazing in obediance so far but no club will let him in.
Me and my dog i adopted from the streets of romania watching this like: interesting. Actually made a dna test with him last month, he has quite literally every possible gene, ortchowka, cane corso, english cockerspaniel
I wonder , how with out less body weight and lean muscle mass are you trying to obtain the Nitrous of the Malinoi, isn’t that the reason why Malinoi are lighter, more agile , cause of the very purpose of breeding, heavier bone and body won’t make them faster, I like your channel, always an admirer, however, I believe each breed is breed for a purpose , the pure line should only be mixed with real facts and expectations, as these puppies certainly will compliment in some cases , the rest will be experimental..I prefer having two different breeds for different purpose complimenting each other’s X factor, moreover, a successful mix may have the stealth and agility that you are looking for ,,, finger crossed 😊
The litters I've seen have not been very consistent. I have one that is basically a malinois with a fatter head, others in the same and other litters I've seen were fairly low drive and very handler soft.
Which is what happens when you start crossing dogs. You never know which trait from which ancestor will show up. Hence why it takes years and years to develop pure bred dogs.
@@1packatak some crosses are more consistent than others. For example Bedlington terrier x greyhounds throw consistent lurcher pups. I think the Belgian and German shepherds are much more different in character than a lot of people realise.
I personally am in the early stages of breeding wolfdogs which are a mix ...I even have a little vlog channel here on RUclips about my animals Haz love your videos brother
@@justagirlandherdogs615 there is many things that go in breeding ...as haz said I would want to find a line I can see a few generations of the pedigree Next I would suggest doing embark health and DNA testing along with OFA hips and elbows tested at 2 years old... Pick the right pair for your program know what you want from your dogs and pick the sire and dam who have the traits most likely to produce what you desire from the pairing.... and if possible talk to people who got pups from the same pairing and see how the pup turned out..no better way to see what you will get from your pup than seeing both the parents and how previous litter mates turned out.....again you want the results of this evaluation to display the traits you desire in your own project.. I search for things like good structure and joints or lines that are proven working dogs or dogs with calm confident temperaments basically before getting your stock dogs be sure to do as much research on the line your getting as possible . When picking your breeding pair you can't just pick two smart healthy dogs one has to benefit the other the goal of your breeding project must be present in every dog you breed And if for any reason you produce anything other than strong happy healthy dogs with a solid temperament that display the benefits of your desired breeding plan then you need to reevaluate things because something is wrong I also recommend finding a mentor someone with many years experience who can guide and help you over the bumps in the road you will come across with inexperience Finally before breeding be sure you know what you want from your breed or line and be sure you do everything you can to stack the odds in your favor of producing solid dogs Past that you just learn the do's and do nots from experience the more you do it the more you will just know from instincts I actually run a group on Facebook if you are interested in learning some more on wolfdogs or breeding we have a good team there you can also follow the progress on my project by checking out my channel here on RUclips at WhiteWaterWolfDogs
@@Apex_K9 following the fb group now! And will subscribe to your channel. I was looking at a purpose bread Mal X Dutchie Holland kpnv bitch and I have a extremely stable/impressive male mal with gentics to die for. Both of their embarks are in progress. And I need to take for OFAs soon and then another pair I’ll talk about as well. Trying to get some IGP titles or other titles on them before breeding as we’ll
@@justagirlandherdogs615 KNPV here the Netherlands also sometimes has bloodlines crosses Pitbull x Dutch Shepherd. I think they do it for the dog to have more pain tollerance. I once had a 1/2 German Shepherd, 1/4 Belgian Malinois, 1/4 Groenendaeler mix. Best dog i ever had. Now i have a Dogo Argentino and a Dogue de Bordeaux X Rottweiler cross and a Boerboel. But all 3 are hellhounds, always find a new way to pull of a unwanted trick or get themself into trouble and slow in learning. I also had a Spanish Mastiff in the past, but also lots of trouble. I love them all, but if i compare. In my case the best dog was the one who was mixed the most.
But remember are still subject to all of the diseases in the breeds used. So if a Dane or Golden was used, highly likely to develop osteosarcoma. Certain other breeds could bring eye diseases such as retinal atrophy. Others, say Rotts, hemangiosarcoma. Boxer or Doberman will bring dilated cardiomyopathy. Instead of knowing what to expect, you can get a bit of everything.
Also, pure bred dog clubs (at least in the US) help to fund research on everything from tick borne illnesses (which affects all dogs) to breed specific things (subaortic stenosis in Rottweilers). 7 clubs, including the Rottweiler Health foundation, have just committed thousands of dollars to fund research in early detection of osteosarcoma. The research is being done through the University of Minnesota. Being able to identify osteo early will affect not only purebreds, but all dogs!! There is also hope that this research will be able to be translated to use in humans.
Практически все виды живых существ на земле - это в том или ином смысле "гибриды" ...!?! Вопрос не в том нужен ли или не нужен "гибрид", а в том насколько он хорош, устойчив и стабилен как вид ...!?! Вопрос не "породы", а конкретной собаки !?!
A lot of people may disagree with me but my friend and I produced Boxer X GSD puppies and bred a female keeper (50% Boxer & 50% GSD) to a purebred male GSD, we knew the grandparents and their health history. And health tested both parents. The mother is a crazy workaholic and likewise with father. I know how a 3/4 GSD 1/4 Boxer he has the working lines of the Shepherd but the /friendliness / outgoing-ness of the Boxer. Which is the perfect combo for my lifestyle he can be fully trusted off leash with 100% recall and will play all damn day. The only ‘downside’ is he doesn’t like to be petted / fussed over much he rather just play! (I’ll just add that we got all the puppies to good homes and helped with training and keep in touch) and will not be breeding again only as it’s not fair on the rest of the world.
Nah people who get upset over mix-breeding are just breeders who want people to ONLY buy from them because they make more money that way making propaganda. Most breeders don't even know what the fuck they are doing, I know 5 right off the top of my head (one is legit a licensed breeder yet comes to me when her dogs has the runs or is vomiting and freaking out because she has no idea what's wrong. *eyeroll* One of her bullies has skin issues yet is crying to me saying, "I have no idea what's wrong!" when literally bullies are prone to skin issues. I don't even breed bullies and I know that.) I am a CKC/AKC Non-linebreeding Siberian Husky sled dog breeder. I plan on breeding Shepskies for sled dogs as huskies tend to have way too much ADHD when it comes to listening for commands. These dogs will also be trained and worked on for protection or guidance depending on what personalities they get, neutering/spaying any that seem to even show a lick of aggression to cease anymore reproduction. All of these dogs will have Spay/Neuter contracts because I do not trust other people being responsible, I might not even sell any to the public pre-trained because Shepskies are a hand full and I care about my dogs. (remember, mix breeding can create diversity but it can also create problematic dogs.) If people from back then actually listed what dogs they used to make their pure-bred we wouldn't be running into the issue of no more diversity or 50% of a pure bred dogs being related to most of its breed because of inbreeding. We could also make more of that breed with enough time. Dobermans are a great example of good mixed breed dogs.
My 50% German, 12% Belgian, 12% labrador, and 25% mutt is amazing. He doesn't have the gene that causes typical gsd health problems. He's lean, strong, and a beast.
I have a mix named Draco, he's 60% Belgian Malinois, 20% Wolf and 20% Husky. He's been very difficult in Military Training, he does what he wants to do, an he hates men, he goes for the kill constantly, I need help lol
Wonderful. That is how we attained pure breeds anyways. Pure breeds are actually a mix we just continue to line breed that mix. Adding new blood from a breed that performs a similar function keeps all those instincts in the genetics. Beautiful puppies. Love that you are mixing wonderful parents.
This is like an infomercial for Shepherd dogs, love it
I'm a little bias, having a 50/50 Malinois/German Shepherd mix but this is brilliant! Agree with every single word! Honestly the best dog training content. Very tempted by the online training program 👍
glad you mentioned they have apbt in the malinois some people refuse to believe that but there’s very few dogs with the intensity of a game bred american pitbull terrier
I THINK YOU ARE 100%.
The issues take place when unscrupulous breeders start doing mixing and breedings for the pure sake of selling garbage puppies, that eventually end up in shelters. NOT A GOOD THING FOR THE DOGS.
Thank you fro sharing your knowledge with us.
Wonder how a GSD/Dutch Shepard mix would go. Always seen the Dutch dogs doing great protection work plus the coat colour is amazing
I've seen and exercised some of these mixes. Leaner than Gsd, taller and more rubust than holland shepherd, very light stripes.
I know a guy who has a competition Dutch x Rottweiler. He’s a beast lean 90lb-100lb. Big head but with a Dutch body agility
I seen pups for sale 6 months ago near me, Dutch shepherd crossed with a Canó corso, that’s scary!
This is what I like about Haz! He always shares really interesting information and I always walk away learning something new!
Very good! Every population need genetic variety to stay healthy and thrive. One of the reasons the GSP has many health issues is because it stayed too pure bred for too long, too much inbreeding. So mixing with a good healthy similar dog like the malinois and than bringing the cubs back to the GSP will help a lot the german shepherd.
I like my dad's lab/ shepherd mix. I think it's a good mix. A little calmer but still a worker
i highly doubt the shepherd is working quality
Another 13 minutes of gold. Thanks, Haz
I own a Malinois and she's without a doubt the best dog I've ever raised/ worked with . I have always been intrigued with the breeding programs that mix the GSD with the Malinois. I'm really happy to see you stress the importance of 100% knowing the dogs your breeding together. Great video. I'm pretty new to your channel but really liking what I'm seeing so far .
so you want Mailinois with GSD drive and health conditions OR GSD with Malinois drive and GSD health conditions? :D
@@ZigzauerLT I never said I wanted anything . Just that the possibilities intrigued me . Sometimes this type of breeding , done the right way can actually "breed out" the health problems that generations of improper breeding has created . Your comment shows a fundamental lack of understanding the benefits of a proper breeding program.
Awesome quality improvement. Video was amazing to watch as well as getting entertained. Glad to see your team grow 👌
Very nice considerations. I agreed very much with your opinion.
People forget that open breeding will recall all basal traits within the involved lines. When you mix with well known lineages you are actually doing something like a open breeding, balancing known traits, weekness and strongness.
Love you, great video, but man the lens losing focus every 10 secs or so was grating. Kind request to your videographer to solve that issue. Thanks!
That 75/25 is a beauty, I like your style straight to the point no BS. Learning a lot from you thanks for the knowledge.
Do it mix dogs are some of the most smartest and most longest living dog had mix breed that lived 16yrs
nice informational video as always. Always simple, straight to the point without sugar coating. I see quite a bit of changes in your videos now a days. You are smiling, nice. Keep up the good work and thank you for all your videos.
I have a puppy gsd mal mix and he is amazing the sire is a 3 quarter GSD the sire is full mal the mal definitely stands out in appearance more but the GSD made him a little easier in our down time
The older puppy, literally drooling. He looks soooo good and being so good!
I've had my belgian malinois and half german shepherd puppy for a week he's only 6 weeks I needed this video.
WOW!!! I have two dogs one is Husky/Lab/Pitt about two years old and the other is Husky/Lab just under 10 weeks old, there not related and I was thinking about training them to be protection dogs they have (at least to me) what someone looks for in good protection dogs but I haven't seen any Huskies in this line of work, I know it's because of there hi independent strong nature but I think the Lab in them makes them more mellow and easy to train, so I am to try my best they are so smart and I know they can do it!!
My dog is mixed and she is amazing!
Can you talk about the Dutch Shepherd ? A video with a dutchie, a GSD and a malinois will be good !
Thanks for the content
What difference do you think exists between a Mal and Dutch other than coat patter?
@@jfkst1 Dutchie slightly less neurotic IMO
@@justagirlandherdogs615
You can find differences in some lines. Most lines are crossbred so much there is no noticeable difference.
@@jfkst1 true
I have a beautiful GSD(75%)/malinois(25%)mix and she is the best of both worlds :) She has a straight back, has a good character, reactive, but not a chicken + as a bonus she is soo gorgeus (Black) :)
Breading with intent is key. Have you worked with LGDs ?
haz is so smart on these breeds dont see anyone that compares.
Briliant ... 150 years ago Dutch/German/Belgian shepherds were more or less one and the same breed. From a farm working background (not sporting). Then they were bred into separate pedigrees. Now you're asking if it is OK to mix them again.
Haz your channel is soooo good....your philosophy and explanations are comprehensive and make so much sense......
Shield k9 bandog program?
Yesssss
I agree 100%. Mixed dogs for work are awesome!
Wow makes a lot of sense. Would make great wildernesses dog.
Love from Scotland 🏴
Haz dropping gems once again!
Love your work and your dogs..would never question your ability on how to run your K9 operations because you show proof in every video!!! 👊👍🇨🇦🇺🇸
The german shepherd looks like is already mixed with mall
I was thinking the same thing.
The people who are completely against mixing dog breeds are most likely dog show enthusiasts or just people who don't have experience with working dogs. Ask many protection (mainly the "bandog" breeders) or hunting/catch dog breeders and you will find plenty of mixes. Lots of pitbull/hound mixes in the hunting world. The point of the mix, though, has to be pairing two individual dogs that complement each other well, both in their physical and mental characteristics. I think when you're talking about working dogs, "breed" is of secondary performance to the INDIVIDUAL dogs being bred and the lines that they come from, and when you pair two dogs that compliment each other well.
The dog show enthusiasts are the same people ruining breeds like German Shepherds and Belgian Malinois, too.
Dog shows like that need to be outlawed.
I had seen this one show, where they would take dogs and have them run through obstacle courses, scent work, then bite work near the end.
Now THAT'S a dog show.
@@skyforgerpack3645 What show was this?
@@mansondevil33 I believe it was called America's Top Dog if I remember correctly
I'm familiar with working dogs and I'm not a big fan of mixing types. Two herders is much more likely to yield a positive outcome IMO. I have a F9 bandog and she still possesses major weaknesses with bully defense drive and mastiff nerves. I just don't know if breeding can be tight enough to have consistency when types are mixed.
@@jfkst1 I mean there's never going to a breed with all perfect dogs, but consistently good, deep generation "bandog-type" lines definitely exist. The best example would be the Doggo Argentino, although breeders seem to be overproducing and selecting good dogs from what I have heard. In the US we have Manson Family Bandogs and American Sentinel K9s, as well as some other smaller programs with good lines. Slovakia has some good programs with really tight, consistent lines like Andante and Camorra, about what I've heard good things. I have no experience breeding, but from what I hear, I would agree that finding consistency takes a lot of work and the dogs selected need a lot of vetting in terms of pedigree. Take my opinion for what it's worth.
Excellent video. I have a 7 month old 50/50 who's so intelligent. I agree that he is intense, with the Mal predominating, as that breed is a little more intense on multiple levels.
Super informative stuff man! What do you think about Beaucerons?
I’m looking for a small gsd pup that has a good Pedigree (for stable nerves good temperament and bones structure) with low prey drive for my home and family preferably a a smaller build if you have any advice on what bloodline to seek out I’d appreciate it. And also you said the gsd weighs 65lbs is that full grown? Thanks love the videos
Just found youre videos been watching all day. These 2 breeds are my #1 breeds even if they are mixed. Thank you for the videos
those dna tests are a joke i payed a real lab to run k9 dna and my staffy really is a apbt love your channel i learn so much even if my pup is just a companion dog that isnt a protection dog thanks for always being honest and blunt
Just because you have a working line doesnt mean it would eat a showline, I’ve seen a showline mop the floor with a working line! Cane corso would eat those two small dogs for lunch!
I have a 46 pound black male GSD he jumps fences climbs ..sniffing..and protection isn't even the word with this guy..he out does all the malinois at the park one jumps a little better..But my boy is twice more powerful when you feel him on a leash..Has anyone ever seen a GSD as small as mine??
Thank you for sharing. Very good information as always. Do you have a link to what your 75% / 25% (GSD / Malinois) looks like as an adult? Keep up the good work!
Yes but not all is the same. For instance different coat and appearance
Thousands of pictures of these mixes on the internet
I've 2 dogs. A Dutch shepherd from good stock and ferocious smaller Belgium Malinois brindle. I will give it a go.
Just what everyone needs, more backyard breeders
I'm 60 and have worked dogs all my life so enough of the back yard cheek boso.
Hi, what are your thoughts on crossing GSD with LGD breeds like kangal, alabai, akbash?
The reason I think these could be good is these breeds bring robustness, can weather through tough nature extremes, good running long distance, good health.
I’d love to know from a professional’s perspective.
I have a Veo dog. A East european shepherd- In the 1930s the Russian military,imported German shepherds.The Red star kennel wanted to make the perfect guard patrole dog for the army,and the KGB. They started to mix in LGD dogs like the Alabai ,Cacausian Ovcharka and the hunting dog Sibirian laika. The Veo dog,is a very powerfull guard dog,but you have to keep in mind,that when you mix in mollose dogs in the German shepherd. You will get a more stubborn dog. The dog will sometimes question your command,
I have a 67 pound Czech line Male, and he is so much more athletic than any other dog I've owned. We do tracking training, obedience, and will add new areas as we see what he does well and is happy doing. I just read a comment by a woman in Los Angeles who was gushing about the GSD/Husky mix she would be bringing home in two weeks, and what a beautiful dog it would grow into. That is pretty f'd up to me, neither breed likes apartment/city living and the high temps common there (I used to live in Pasadena). That sort of thinking, treating dogs like hand bags, is just pathetic and basically abusive. Neglectful treatment is abuse, and not providing for the needs of the breed YOU CHOSE to take responsibility for is just wrong.
Really liked this video, great stuff
As a Doberman Owner, I feel like Outcrossing would be excellent for the breed, but a lot are so against it.
Doberman are perfect as they are, the only breed to be bred specifically for protection and nothing else! These dogs are amazing family dogs despite being hardcore bad ass! What would you mix it with to improve if?
@@ianmcdonald3053 They are riddled with health issues, some dropping dead as earlier as 1/2 years. I am not an outcross expert, just saying i think it could be beneficial
You know your stuff by listening to you. I am an amateur but live shepperds and malinois.
Superb channel
Down to earth, grounded wisdom!
In the days of the Cockerpoo, Jackerpoo etc, it's a shame that people don't listen to videos like this often enough
But money talks, even among dog lovers,.incredibly sad!
Not to mention the Pug/St Bernard mix (from a puppy mill) I met the other day
Do you let gage and izzy in the house with family everyday or mostly in kennels?
Straight talking man guys listen to him
What's your opinion on "non standard" colors? (Like for example liver gsds)
He's said in another video they're usually riddled with health issues or are poor temperament.
I haven't met many, but have seen several examples of poor health.
@@skyforgerpack3645 Oh cool ty
@@skyforgerpack3645 you are spot on!!
Here we call them x-mechelaar
Love this video, your so right . My life of having all different kinds of dogs this video is right on.
can someone tell me where I can get those colars ?
Hey Haz are your hybrids on your website
beautiful animals
Donovan Pinschers, Bandogges & Bull x Herders have some hard working dogs.
I’m a truck driver and strongly considering getting a dog…do you feel 1 breed over the other will be suitable for that lifestyle? Or do u think either would be ok for an over the road lifestyle? I obviously would have to make time to stimulate them daily but just wanting a professional opinion thanks!!
There are tons of truckers that have dogs. I’ve heard of everything from Pit Bulls to German Shepherds to Yorkies!!
Best is to do some research on breeds. Then start speaking to quality breeders. Find one that you like. And go from there.
Great thumbnail
What to do when you have a 50/50 Malinois/Dutch Sheppard…..
Wow so either way you should be breading responsibly! Who would have thought. Sorry pardon me being a wise ass.
One advantage of crossing Mal and GSD lines that you did not mention is the addition of genetic diversity to the line producing healthier dogs in the long run and avoiding genetic conditions that may appear even in responsible breeding. It sounds like you bread responsibly so there may not be a difference in the first generation but I’m almost positive a difference in overall health would be seen several generations down the road.
I have a mix of these 2. Really great dog
Verry nice content , keep it up
Very interesting and well delivered
Don’t know how I missed this video✌️
Can you further explain in more detail the Malinois handler sensitivity . I’ve heard this mentioned many times . I’m assuming the don’t take correction as well ?
Basically, they are better at recognizing patterns and much quicker thinkers imo.
So they often know the correction is coming and panic, that makes the punishment itself more severe.
Yes, you are right . They don’t take corrections as well. They might redirect ... they need a firm handler with a light hand compared to a German shepherd
You are correct regarding working dogs in Europe don't have pedigree. This simply because they are not the same as the established breed and they are only bred based on what they can do. The military unit that is growing them is not selling them to the public and in most cases are not suitable for pets. They could even have wolf in the blood on purpose or by accident. The point is when you sell this dogs to the general public you are giving something that not many people are ready to handle.
Please call me. I love your dogs. I have two Shepherds. We live in the country need a protection dog.
Awesome 🙏
How do I get one
Some knpv bloodlines have GSD in their peds vis versa
Nice video. Thanks.
I love my pure bred dogs but sometimes crossing is just needed. I adopted a lab mix and he has all sorts in him, he'd make an amazing working dog but in my area they are just too snobby to give him a chance. He is amazing in obediance so far but no club will let him in.
That’a not right.
@@1packatak I know but not much I can do about it
Start your own club.
Good info Thank you.
Me and my dog i adopted from the streets of romania watching this like: interesting.
Actually made a dna test with him last month, he has quite literally every possible gene, ortchowka, cane corso, english cockerspaniel
New to the Chanel and love it so far! I have a shepherd, black Labrador mix she is kinda reactive.
Shepherds are herding dogs… fyi.. not to burst your bubble.. the shepherd breed dates back 4000 plus years.
The Alaskan husky, not a pure breed, the only dog bred strictly for performance. No show lines no pet lines.
Not true. There are show line huskies. Different from the working line.
I wonder , how with out less body weight and lean muscle mass are you trying to obtain the Nitrous of the Malinoi, isn’t that the reason why Malinoi are lighter, more agile , cause of the very purpose of breeding, heavier bone and body won’t make them faster, I like your channel, always an admirer, however, I believe each breed is breed for a purpose , the pure line should only be mixed with real facts and expectations, as these puppies certainly will compliment in some cases , the rest will be experimental..I prefer having two different breeds for different purpose complimenting each other’s X factor, moreover, a successful mix may have the stealth and agility that you are looking for ,,, finger crossed 😊
my explosives k9 was a mal/shep mix he was a crackhead 😂
The litters I've seen have not been very consistent.
I have one that is basically a malinois with a fatter head, others in the same and other litters I've seen were fairly low drive and very handler soft.
Which is what happens when you start crossing dogs. You never know which trait from which ancestor will show up. Hence why it takes years and years to develop pure bred dogs.
@@1packatak some crosses are more consistent than others.
For example Bedlington terrier x greyhounds throw consistent lurcher pups.
I think the Belgian and German shepherds are much more different in character than a lot of people realise.
I personally am in the early stages of breeding wolfdogs which are a mix ...I even have a little vlog channel here on RUclips about my animals
Haz love your videos brother
Do you have tips on breeding?
@@justagirlandherdogs615 there is many things that go in breeding ...as haz said I would want to find a line I can see a few generations of the pedigree
Next I would suggest doing embark health and DNA testing along with OFA hips and elbows tested at 2 years old...
Pick the right pair for your program know what you want from your dogs and pick the sire and dam who have the traits most likely to produce what you desire from the pairing.... and if possible talk to people who got pups from the same pairing and see how the pup turned out..no better way to see what you will get from your pup than seeing both the parents and how previous litter mates turned out.....again you want the results of this evaluation to display the traits you desire in your own project..
I search for things like good structure and joints or lines that are proven working dogs or dogs with calm confident temperaments basically before getting your stock dogs be sure to do as much research on the line your getting as possible .
When picking your breeding pair you can't just pick two smart healthy dogs one has to benefit the other the goal of your breeding project must be present in every dog you breed
And if for any reason you produce anything other than strong happy healthy dogs with a solid temperament that display the benefits of your desired breeding plan then you need to reevaluate things because something is wrong
I also recommend finding a mentor someone with many years experience who can guide and help you over the bumps in the road you will come across with inexperience
Finally before breeding be sure you know what you want from your breed or line and be sure you do everything you can to stack the odds in your favor of producing solid dogs
Past that you just learn the do's and do nots from experience the more you do it the more you will just know from instincts
I actually run a group on Facebook if you are interested in learning some more on wolfdogs or breeding we have a good team there you can also follow the progress on my project by checking out my channel here on RUclips at
WhiteWaterWolfDogs
@@Apex_K9 following the fb group now! And will subscribe to your channel. I was looking at a purpose bread Mal X Dutchie Holland kpnv bitch and I have a extremely stable/impressive male mal with gentics to die for. Both of their embarks are in progress. And I need to take for OFAs soon and then another pair I’ll talk about as well. Trying to get some IGP titles or other titles on them before breeding as we’ll
I've been subbed for a while now (;
@@justagirlandherdogs615 KNPV here the Netherlands also sometimes has bloodlines crosses Pitbull x Dutch Shepherd. I think they do it for the dog to have more pain tollerance. I once had a 1/2 German Shepherd, 1/4 Belgian Malinois, 1/4 Groenendaeler mix. Best dog i ever had. Now i have a Dogo Argentino and a Dogue de Bordeaux X Rottweiler cross and a Boerboel. But all 3 are hellhounds, always find a new way to pull of a unwanted trick or get themself into trouble and slow in learning. I also had a Spanish Mastiff in the past, but also lots of trouble. I love them all, but if i compare. In my case the best dog was the one who was mixed the most.
Great stuff!
Could you please do one with the presa and the cane corso or dogo? I've always wanted to see such a mix.
I know right. I got one. Presa x corso
Male 5months
Currently weighing 25kg
Mixed dog are generally less prone to breed specific diseases aswell.
But remember are still subject to all of the diseases in the breeds used. So if a Dane or Golden was used, highly likely to develop osteosarcoma. Certain other breeds could bring eye diseases such as retinal atrophy. Others, say Rotts, hemangiosarcoma.
Boxer or Doberman will bring dilated cardiomyopathy.
Instead of knowing what to expect, you can get a bit of everything.
Also, pure bred dog clubs (at least in the US) help to fund research on everything from tick borne illnesses (which affects all dogs) to breed specific things (subaortic stenosis in Rottweilers).
7 clubs, including the Rottweiler Health foundation, have just committed thousands of dollars to fund research in early detection of osteosarcoma. The research is being done through the University of Minnesota. Being able to identify osteo early will affect not only purebreds, but all dogs!!
There is also hope that this research will be able to be translated to use in humans.
Практически все виды живых существ на земле - это в том или ином смысле "гибриды" ...!?! Вопрос не в том нужен ли или не нужен "гибрид", а в том насколько он хорош, устойчив и стабилен как вид ...!?! Вопрос не "породы", а конкретной собаки !?!
Perfect 👌
A lot of people may disagree with me but my friend and I produced Boxer X GSD puppies and bred a female keeper (50% Boxer & 50% GSD) to a purebred male GSD, we knew the grandparents and their health history. And health tested both parents. The mother is a crazy workaholic and likewise with father. I know how a 3/4 GSD 1/4 Boxer he has the working lines of the Shepherd but the /friendliness / outgoing-ness of the Boxer. Which is the perfect combo for my lifestyle he can be fully trusted off leash with 100% recall and will play all damn day. The only ‘downside’ is he doesn’t like to be petted / fussed over much he rather just play!
(I’ll just add that we got all the puppies to good homes and helped with training and keep in touch) and will not be breeding again only as it’s not fair on the rest of the world.
Nah people who get upset over mix-breeding are just breeders who want people to ONLY buy from them because they make more money that way making propaganda. Most breeders don't even know what the fuck they are doing, I know 5 right off the top of my head (one is legit a licensed breeder yet comes to me when her dogs has the runs or is vomiting and freaking out because she has no idea what's wrong. *eyeroll* One of her bullies has skin issues yet is crying to me saying, "I have no idea what's wrong!" when literally bullies are prone to skin issues. I don't even breed bullies and I know that.)
I am a CKC/AKC Non-linebreeding Siberian Husky sled dog breeder. I plan on breeding Shepskies for sled dogs as huskies tend to have way too much ADHD when it comes to listening for commands. These dogs will also be trained and worked on for protection or guidance depending on what personalities they get, neutering/spaying any that seem to even show a lick of aggression to cease anymore reproduction. All of these dogs will have Spay/Neuter contracts because I do not trust other people being responsible, I might not even sell any to the public pre-trained because Shepskies are a hand full and I care about my dogs. (remember, mix breeding can create diversity but it can also create problematic dogs.)
If people from back then actually listed what dogs they used to make their pure-bred we wouldn't be running into the issue of no more diversity or 50% of a pure bred dogs being related to most of its breed because of inbreeding. We could also make more of that breed with enough time. Dobermans are a great example of good mixed breed dogs.
A 60 to 70 pound dog take on a115 ddr German shepherd With great drive ....I doubt it..
DDR..😆
Lol u f up when u said DDR. Ik haz was gonna see this
My 50% German, 12% Belgian, 12% labrador, and 25% mutt is amazing. He doesn't have the gene that causes typical gsd health problems. He's lean, strong, and a beast.
I have a mix named Draco, he's 60% Belgian Malinois, 20% Wolf and 20% Husky. He's been very difficult in Military Training, he does what he wants to do, an he hates men, he goes for the kill constantly, I need help lol
Why dont you import or breed rottweilers
No reason to. Less athletic and biddable than a shepherd and lower fight drive and pain threshold to a Presa.
@@jfkst1 powerful as fuck tho
@@justagirlandherdogs615 you got that right!!!
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Please, can you do a video about Rotterman dog. Please.
The answer is no, just like humans :)
Huh?
I am in the uk how do i find what you have to sell
Hybrids also tend to be healthier due to the heterozygosity
If using healthy dogs, yeah.
Some people claim it as no matter what, they're healthier. Just absolute garbage.