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"At some point you can make a console that isn't even a console, it's just a freakin' controller"
Switch; Sweats nervously
To be fair, i don't consider the Switch to be a "console" for the same reason the Gameboy and Nintendo DS aren't consoles. The Switch is a console in the same way that a Tomato is a fruit.
@@kingofbudokai that makes literally zero sense. How is the Switch not a console?
@@kingofbudokai Wait what? You don't consider those consoles? Isn't hand-held supposed to be short for hand-held console?
@@kingofbudokai One thing of note, a tomato is both a fruit and a vegetable, since a fruit is the seeding body of a plant, and a vegetable is the edible part of a plant. The meaning of the word "vegetable" is ambiguous in common speech today, however "Fruit" is pretty nonnegotiable and tomatoes are definitely fruit.
On the other hand, the reason why I have a Switch and a 3ds and haven't bought a console for 15 years is because portability is the only benefit you get from them not being a PC!
@@Vegas242 To me, "console" specifically implies that it isn't portable but that is just a personal definition, which is why even though switch meets the technical requirement, i don't personally count it. If it doesn't require a controller, it isn't a console. If it doesn't plug into a TV, it isn't a console, etc. That's just the way I've always thought of things, not that it's necessarily correct. (You'll notice i didn't say the switch ISN'T a console, merely that i said I personally don't count it as one. Just like tomatoes are technically fruit, but i'm still not going to call them that.)
9:50 "Ive never heard of Stadia, but im interested"
I assure you FireBat, you are not
It sounds like he is saying, "council," and it's triggering me.
If it makes either one of you feel better, the captions translate what he says as "council" Everytime he says "console".
You are not alone. 💖
Bat does an ad to get a top tier computer and totally forgets how much one costs
Well he didnt pay for it tbf. But speaking of price, if you buy a 500$ console and still have to buy a 300$ computer for work and stuff, I dont see how it’s not valid to get an 800$ setup instead.
@@Gorbgorbenson I can easily get a good working comp for less than 200, as I did. Even at 800, though, a PC is still not going to be anywhere near 1080p 60fps on modern games, tbf.
@@BrianDeBrain_ lol an $800 pc is more than capable of above 60 fps at 1080p. Don't think Alienware or any pre-built. Build your own, it is like legos.
I can't believe I'd see the day where Firebat in his Ivory Tower can't understand the plight of the common man
To be fair Sony and Microsoft are selling the consoles at a loss and make the money back with customers paying for online service and exclusives. Also the peripheral equipment is overpriced. If they would actually sell them at a price where they wouldn't make a loss I think they would be at least 800$/€. Also I just built a PC that costs 800,78€ and fulfills the recommended system requirements of Cyberpunk 2077.
Ah yes, Bejeweled needs to come to PC, the place it was born on 20 years ago...
And the console that's a controller. A Game, possibly marketed at Boys?
2 things:
1) the issue with druid is even if it early nut draws, if you take back the board it struggles.
2) Because PC games run at different hardware levels, you can't make one rig to sell to people that can play it all at a competitive price. If I sell you a 500 dollar xbox I can guarantee you that you can play every game of that xbox generation. If I sell you a 500 dollar computer I can't at all guarantee that it will play every pc game for the next 4 years.
Underrated comment. Also, playing games on the recliner with a multifoot display with a soundbar can sometimes be more enjoyable than sitting 12 inches away from a computer monitor with a headset.
@@msrobinson42 You can just plug your computer into the same screen you use for your XBOX. That doesn't really count as an advantage. The main advantages are in compatibility and exclusive releases.
The thing he doesn't understand is that consoles are way cheaper then pc. They are insane computers for the price (mainly because they are sold at a lose).
You can probably play Minecraft at low settings and Hearthstone that's it. $500 PC's are very low end at this point and the next gen are basically mid-high level PC's at the same price.
Most PC games are highly forwards compatible.... that's the whole thing about windows.... its a mess a lot because of wanting to be compatible with any old software and not remove any features.
There is also leveraging a consistent CPU and other hardware things to better optimize and get better games for the hardware.
On another note: I dont really understand the point of ever acting in a way that would make you want to buy a second console.... because then... stuff that runs games does not need to be "consumeable" and "need to be replaced" in any reasonable amount of time... and if your doing that you likely could get better performance per dollar via PC's.
Every drunk conversation with the boys involves someone saying let’s start a company
that slow google glass dig was smooth, well done ed
"Someone should make a console thing, but for PC"
Yeah we have this super new tecnology called steam, just came out yesterday
My mans really wants me to play last of us 2 on my 4 year old hp laptop
Consoles are such a sc- *stadia ad* -am.
This was like listening to my grandad talk about consoles with the same level of understanding lol
Council. Council. Council.
Firebat over here not understanding why people spend $500 on consoles.
While I'm trying to understand why people spend $600-1000 on a phone.
True that. Also most people have a 300-500$/€ PC at home for work. Then the child gets a console for 500$/€. They could have just upgraded the PC with that money.
Because we want the best of the best it's an investment into a daily driver you'll be using for at least a year if not 2. I'm also on my pc all the time and prior to my current pc that one was a bad build so I went all out for the best hardware to ensure I can game everyday with no issues. It's an investment for yourself.
I got my Boost phone for $80 and am mind blown with everything it does. Blows my mind hearing people pay more!
Some people are fortunate that’s not a financial constraint for them. Money doesn’t buy happiness but it can buy a PC, iPhone, and console
You use your phone every day
7:30 Fun fact: There was a company who created what was essentially a PlayStation 2 Emulator for computers called Bleem!, you would put in the software disc to start the Bleem! software and then once it was running you would take out the disc and put in a PlayStation 2 game. They tried to sell it to Sony, but Sony was pissed and sued them but the judge ruled they didn't do anything wrong. In the end Sony just threatened to stop allowing businesses that sold Bleem! to also sell PlayStation stuff, although eventually some of the people who made Bleem! were recruited by Sony after the fact
Edit: Oops it was PlayStation 1 not PlayStation 2. Also they made one for the Dreamcast but it didn't work as well
So the answer is yes you could theoretically turn your computer into a console, but console companies will find you. That said I definitely skipped over a bunch of details so I'd definitely recommend looking up some RUclips videos on the topic, LGR's was pretty good I remember
Edit: Gaming Historian's video goes even more in depth now that I think about it
@@Vegas242 people pirate shit all the time, console games are no different
The fact that you kept the exclamation point every time you said “Bleem!”
@@Totaluser1 Well yeah but a commercially available emulator that takes the game discs is still noteworthy
@@Supuhfuzz I do what I can lol
Part of the issue with PC/Mac gaming has to do with how fast games can scale sometimes in requirements too fast, where console versions of the game are always made for what the console can handle. Now, if you do have a decent PC/Mac it does open up better graphics and the like. Some problems you run into are lazy developers too. They "port" a game to PC/Mac because of demand, but keep all the console settings. Things like max of 60fps, only controller support, but not keyboard, etc. That is becoming less and less likely nowadays though, and it nice to see. I have built my own PC since I was 15 (turning 39 at the end of the month). My last console I bought was a PS2. Which I still have and sometimes play.
Also $500 for something that can run newer games as well as a console isn't that realistic in my experience. Best you can get, unless you really shop deals would be something with an i3 or Ryzen 3 processor, 8GB Ram, maybe a 1 TB HDD. Not even sure as most don't even list the GPU. It could run things on low to maybe med settings and probably bottleneck to heck. Again, just my experience.
In my experience my $500 went a bit further than that. Ryzen 5, 500gb ssd, gtx 1650, and that was off of amazon.
My pc experience was that I believe I started in the 700$~ range and have been making steady upgrades since getting it. The biggest one was getting a gtx 960 which I had for about 4-5 years being able to run every game that I tried. The only time I couldnt run one was black ops 4, but that was due to my mobo/processor. If I didnt splurge recently and get a 2070 Super, Id still be on that 960 and be happy. In total Ive probably spent 1500$ on my computer itself, but I likely would be able to last at least one more gen without upgrading again. Which means I would have spent the same one my computer as buying 3 different generations, but I can play all the games that have come out in the past 12 years.
Also, I just wanted to add that Mac gaming is a joke. It’s hilariously tragic to me when people bitch about a game not working on their Mac. (Im not saying they’re bad per se, but they’re not meant for gaming lol)
Dude I bought a pc in 2014 for like $700 with 24gb ram, i7 processor, and like a 2gb nvidia card can’t even remember cause it was like 6 years ago and I’ve upgraded the card since then but that’s it. You can easily get a pc better than a console for the same price
PC gaming is comparable in price when you consider that pc gamers expect, and typically receive, steeper discounts for games on sale. Also we don't pay additional fees for online experiences. And we enjoy a massive library of legacy content, often with community modding and support. Not to mention how much cheaper and easier it is to emulate your old console games on PC. So depending on your gaming habits and what kinds of experiences you want, PC can be very cost competitive.
i did not expect to so thoroughly enjoy firebat just talking
The reason I play on console is because of console exclusives.
A lot of the games I want to play don't exist on PC.
And since I have the console anyway for those exclusives, it makes no sense to get a gaming PC as well just for the games that aren't exclusive.
Also if you play multiplayer shooters and prefer the feel of a controller, playing on PC gives you a distinct disadvantage, since opponents on mouse and keyboard can be more accurate than you.
Firebat really overestimates how many people have computers at home that can run anything close to what consoles can at similar price points
I can tell firebat hasnt looked at pc prices in a while. Ever since the invention of crypto pc gaming stopped being competitive on the cost basis
I can't be the only one to see the dig at google glass and died laughing, can I?
"My idea cant be stupid if google's doing it"
They made it stupid
I think the one thing firebat is missing is where location-wise of the console. I have an Xbox and a PC and I spend 95% of my time on my PC but sometimes I like to lean back on a couch and chill playing on an Xbox not sitting at a desk
Switched to PC. That's the only thing I miss about console. Sometimes I just don't feel like sitting at a desk for hours on end.
I mean, thats not a problem that is too hard to solve to be fair, if the market to take out the consoles was a thing, that will be covered in a day
Is it worth $500 just to sit on your couch every once in a while and take up space in your living room? It might be, but it's worth asking.
for me who spends a vast majority of my time at home, yes I would say it's worth it. However that being said it's not the highest on the list of priorities. I only spent $150 on my xbox but if it were to break i would put effort into saving up for another
why is he pronouncing console as council? con-sole
midwest accent
Definitely not about accents. It's simply not having that very well-embedded in his vocabulary. Definitely a funny little quirk.
I wonder if maybe somebody in chat misspelled console and he was subtly joking on them. That's the vibe I got for a small section.
Took way too long to find this comment
Most people buy consoles because they can't afford a pc that can actually play these AAA games
Why is he pronouncing "console" like "council"?
Firebat is talking about bringing back Snood and I am here for it.
There is an appeal to the ps5 over pcs at a specific price point you get 120 fps for example on ps5 on warzone for $399 to get the same performance on a pc you need to spend at least $600 and build it yourself.
Firebat: Market to the casuals who can’t download an emulator.
Comments: Just build a computer
10:10 is one of the many reasons I love Ed
The logic is people still pay for amateur porns like onlyfans even though the porn is technically free worldwide
In other words, if you make it, morons will buy it. (because they are morons)
That’s different though because people like amateur stuff better than professional because it has a more “real” feel to it. Ofc there’s some truth to that, but it still is putting on a show.
@@Gorbgorbenson Except you can get real OR amateur for free.
@@chaosmastermind yeah, but most of the time swers don't profit off the free stuff, because there are leaks, and people stealing their content, and they don't get any money from it. By supporting someone with of, you are supporting them in a more direct way
@@agustinmorandini1115 Yeah right.
I'm not paying people money for something I can get for free. That's insanity.
A huge appeal for consoles from the perspective of a game developer is the fact that your user base is using the same system, guaranteed. You don't have to have different game settings for different compute powers, you just design the game for the one console and its set-in-stone features. This saves a lot of time on the game developer side, and the console companies also have tools teams to create standardized tools for developers to control graphics, hardware optimization, etc.
10:08 editor subtly letting us know hes still alive
god this new mic sounds so buttery smooth
firebat predicting a future that happened years ago. sometimes i wonder what rock firebat lives under?
For me it comes down to:
My xbox is in the living room, I press a button and it turns on and myself (and friends) can all sit and play games together. With my computer, I CAN replicate that, but its a bit more work. and I don't wanna move my computer to my living room every time I wanna play games on the couch
I might at some point look at maybe a mini PC specifically for just gaming on the couch, but that feels like I'm probably spending the same money at that point for a vaguely different hardware setup
My computer is never close to my TV/couch and it's too much of a pain when I'm lazy to run cords across the room/apartment to set it up on my TV if only for a few hours
Check out miracast as an option, if you want to send your pc screen to your tv
6:24 is an absolute fever dream though lmfao, imagine thinking pushing out consoles could EVER be possible, lol
i like how this video starts off with bat complaining about how he instantly lost, then went podcast mode about consoles, and then i look back at the game and he's won
“Con-sole” firebat idk what this council thing you’re talking about is
What firebat is describing is what I remember as a kid of some kind of company called big fish or something and they had random casual games like peggle and the frog that shoots colored balls to match them
Firebat drastically overestimates how many people have a desktop in their house, most people use a laptop for work which is way too under spec’d for most PC games
But why buy the console when you could do something like this ruclips.net/video/QkUXdfdXmUY/видео.html
I didn't even really watch the game too well but I really like the talks with Firebat
For one thing, with consoles you can sit on a nice sofa and play on a massive tv. I’m sure there’s some way you could do that with a PC as well but you’d probably have to switch back and forth depending on when you want to use it like a computer and when you want to use it like a console.
They’re also much easier to move around than computers, so you can take them to your buddies’ for lans and such.
You don’t have to worry about specs at all. You just buy the console and it’s exactly as good as it needs to be until the next gen comes out. No worrying about buying additional hardware (except maybe an external hard drive) or software.
I mean its just as easy as playing a console on the couch. Plug your HDMI into your computer/TV and go to the right source for whatever HDMI you're using on the TV, and bam. You now are using a giant TV screen like a computer monitor, no issues at all.
BerserkerBacon that’s weird, my pc doesn’t have an HDMI port and it’s not even that old.
Edit: Just to clarify my point a bit: I actually do this with my current set up. My pc is plugged into my tv (though not via hdmi) and my Xbox is plugged into the same tv via hdmi, so I can just switch between inputs. But the thing is my tv is medium sized, so it works well for both keyboard and mouse when you’re close to the screen and console where you can sit back a bit. My point was that you wouldn’t want to be sitting at keyboard and mouse distance from the tv if it was massive. So you’d have to actually switch the cords/screens around every time you wanted to swap between being close to your monitor for keyboard and mouse use and farther back from the massive tv with a controller. It’s a niche case but one that does come up for some people no doubt.
@@JaxonBurn I mean if I had a wireless keyboard/mouse I wouldn't really see the issue with playing on any sized screen. I'm actually currently using my desktop on an actual monitor and my tv for a dual screen setup, hdmi plugs straight into my graphics card and then into the tv.
BerserkerBacon Personally with a mouse and keyboard I’d prefer to be close to a reasonable sized monitor. What would the set up with a wireless keyboard and mouse look like with a big screen? Would you have a desk for your mouse and keyboard where you would sit as well as some platform for the screen to be on? Seems like it would require a lot of space. Or would you have the keyboard on your lap and the mouse next to you? Seems like it would be uncomfortable and harder to use. Anyway, I did acknowledge that I’m sure there would be a way to do it in my original comment so it’s kind of a moot point.
@@JaxonBurn Yeah you kinda nailed it. My method when I used a big screen was keyboard on lap with mousepad+mouse off to my right on the next couch cushion over. Wasn't really uncomfortable at all and honestly I had better posture back then than I do now when I sit in an office chair, go figure. Oh and the TV was just sitting on the TV stand like it normally would in the livingroom.
0:23 Skipperino Firebaterino
Runescape being listed among trendy games as I sit here playing it while watching this video
amazing
When you start up the Firebat console it says "Welcome to the bat console team thing man"
The biggest advantage of the console is that you don't need to upgrade it. With pc, you kind of have to upgrade after a few years to be able to run newer games. While with console, once you have it, it will always be compatible and you don't have to worry about performance.
I mean but you have to upgrade consoles too. Eventually games just aren't going to be made for the ps4 or xbox one.
The new Xbox and PS5 are just hardware upgrades to the current generation, given they're backwards compatible. They've been PCs in a box since they moved to x86 architecture.
Also, they've started making multiple versions per console like the PS4 Pro and Xbox X and other nonsense. If you buy the worse one you get worse performance in games.
So they're no different than PCs.
It is kinda ironic that this conversation has been around longer than Firebat has been alive. I'm not sure if PC has had larger market share of games than consoles in the last 20 years. And on top of that, everything has been moving towards mobile for a large period of that 20 years. People want convenience, not driver issues.
My struggle is that if I turn on my computer to play a game...I never do. I'm always like, oh I gotta check my email or do work or something. If I turn on a console there's nothing else for me to get distracted with and I can just have fun.
TIL Firebat thinks a console is a council.
I definitely think that you deserve one week off every other month.
And another week off in years in which he wins the world championship.
I think the main advantage of consoles is how user-friendly they are for keeping up with the latest games, you buy one and then can get any game that will ever come out for it and know that it will work perfectly (as long as the game itself isn't a poorly made mess). PC is different in that spec requirements keep going up over time until eventually you'll find out that your machine can't run that game you just bought. Obviously consoles become obsolete as well in the sense that eventually games will stop being released for them and you'll have to buy the next one to keep up, but to the average non-tech-savvy consumer it's still easier to manage that than to be left on your own trying to figure out when you need to upgrade your PC and what to upgrade it with (or to buy a new PC altogether and what it should have).
That being said, even though I am one of those tech illiterate dumb-dumbs that has no idea how to properly stay up to date with PC gaming I'm probably done with consoles. Most of them are getting ridiculously expensive for what they offer and 99% of the games I'd want to play end up on steam anyway. The only thing really worth getting is Nintendo's stuff but honestly their quality has been going downhill lately so after the Switch I'm probably done with them too. It does make sense that console would still have such a large audience but PC is probably just the correct answer for anyone who bothers to put this much thought into the question in the first place.
I bought this gaming computer 5 years ago, just looked up on a website what to buy (tweakers.nl, it is in Dutch), put it together and it still plays everything I want to play just fine. Sure, can't play the newest stuff on the highest settings, but on medium to high settings mostly...
I have played consoles at friends a lot and I could never understand how the controllers work, they are freaking mystery to me, give me mouse and keyboard any day... And the graphics are worse.
All in all, consoles provide a far less enjoyable gaming experience to me, except when you play things like racing games with a bunch of friends in 1 room*...
*And everyone laughs at me because I can't keep my car on the track because of the f-ing controller... ;-)
4:02 actually theres tons of applications that allow you to play phone games on PC, specifically. And they could just be designing games for PC that way to, there are some out there just not big name stuff.
Im using one of those apps right now, its called bluestacks
PC master race forever
But playing phone games on an actual phone is a way better experience, so why even bother?
@@O_ORashad its not though. You may have been conditioned into thinking that, but its more limited in every possible way other than having it be portable
What you are proposing, about marketing PCs for causal audiences, is basically what Valve has been trying (and failing) to do for the last decade, right?
Idk man, steam is the reason why I own practically no games for any of my consoles.
@@Alter292 Steam was a triumph. Huge success. What I'm talking about is SteamOS, Steam Controller, Steam Machine, Steam Link hardware and Steam Big Picture. All of them are products that try to streamline/facilitate pc gaming for casual audiences.
Leonardo Raele Oh, okay, yes. In that case 100% agreed
Dear Mr Firebat: The appeal of consoles is that you can play on a closed system that can’t be tampered with or jail broken. Not to say it is impossible, just very difficult. You also can’t use cheats on console.
And the hilarious thing is that companies are flushing this appeal down the toilet by introducing cross-play for titles like CoD Warzone. I don't even play the game but I can feel the pain of players struggling against masses of cheaters.
What's really bothering me is that the druid somehow lost after that amazing start.
Is it just me or is purchasing a PC or even the components to go in the PC I already have significantly more expensive than a console? Like I’m talking triple the price? Where are people shopping for PCs if what I’m saying isn’t true?
Generally PCs are not cheaper for the performance of a console. I guess the thought process is consoles power isn’t as good later on in the generation but you have to pay an arm and a leg for a “pretty good” pc.
It depends, consoles have one advantage that everything is more powerful because it is specifically designed to do one thing, whereas computers are supposed to be able to do anything, although it is possible to build a powerful PC for less than a console would cost, it just takes a lot of research and planning. Also once you've built a decent PC it'll last a while and upgrading a few components is much cheaper than buying the whole thing outright. If you actually want resources for building a good computer though, you should check out PC Part Picker and NewEgg (also I think LinusTechTips did a video on this topic).
@@Vegas242 i rely on logicalincrements, a "good" PC can outlast multi generations of consoles
If instead of buying a $500 console, you bought a pc that cost $500 more than the one you already own, the pc would be just better, and youd save money on games.
Of course, you cant just undo the decision you made in the past to buy the pc you currently have, and instead get that hypothetical suped up pc. But then, buying a second pc for $500 just to play games on (a console) doesnt seem like a great fix either
@@brensteff I paid 1k for my computer 3 years ago and it is still high quality. If consoles are approaching the $500 mark that gap gets a lot smaller. Consoles used to be half that in the PS2/Xbox days which causes greater disparity in favor of consoles. I would still say consoles are worth it for gaming, but that is becoming less and less true as time goes on.
Got a PS5 midroll ad lol
Most PCs can't run the newest, most popular games at a playable framerate, and even some that can run into compatibility issues. People want to play the hot new thing with their friends without worrying about rec specs. Consoles guarantee that experience.
All that said, I haven't bought a console since the PS3 and do all my gaming on my PC. PS4 controller works great on it.
but most people who can drop 300-400 dollars on a console could just use that money to buy a better pc... could only afford a $300 pc and a $400 console? well that just means you coulda spent $700 on a pc.
@@MrMrkman98 well yes but no. Most of the time you get money for a pc to do work. For instance you have pc/laptop for a home office and also as a pc for your kids. You don't want them go into your office every 20 minuts because they want to play some games. Instead you have a console in a living room and everyone is happy. And everyone can sit and play it.
The consoles themselves are not only using specialized hardware but act as loss leaders as the console companies make money off subscriptions and exclusives
@@JurnyJudasz When you buy a console when do the kids arrive? Are they shipped separately because I'm pretty sure my 19yr old friend who owns an xbox, PS4, and a computer has been completely screwed over.
@@MrMrkman98 youre pretty dim... the argument for a pc only fail if it doesn't work in all circumstances . Yes beacause your guys folks parents bought you both consoles and you don't have kids that must invalidates what the other person said...
This is the side chatter I am into. Quality tangents right here.
You can invite friends over and play together on a console. That was always the biggest advantage consoles had over pcs for me.
Run a HDMI to your TV and you can do the same, or if your PC is far from your living room then you can stream it instead. Personally, my friends and I have gotten way more time playing local multiplayer on PC than we have with this current console generation, the library is so much wider and cheaper that there's barely been a reason for us to play anything else.
Some people think using a computer to play games is too complicated. I have some friends like that. Makes me sad.
Using is not complicated... Making games for computers which have hundreds of different possible configuration is harder than for consoles that have only 1-2 possible configurations
@@TrimutiusToo Also what that one guy in Twitch chat said is right: a $500 computer can't come anywhere close to the performance the new consoles will have. And of course there's exclusives and the sort as well.
Well, the hole in the market is a company that ports console exclusive games. It's the copyrights that get in the way though.
The Bat!
Tbh I'm just not the target demographic for consoles. I'm a tinkerer and 30 fps are not enough for me.
I love looking up how well which part performs, finding out which part is gonna bottleneck the system, looking up new parts on Ebay, reselling used parts etc.
My PC cost me sth like 700€ and most of the parts are 2 years old. Originally, I just wanted it to run Overwatch, Witcher 3 and Fallout 4 @1080p, 60fps. But new games also run smoothly.
The point on consoles, as a PC gamer, is that devs can make an assumption about specs. Developing a game for everyone with a PC means all the spec combinations. For a console, you know the specs, what it can do, etc. My bet is phones, consoles, and PCs will all merge like the Switch showed us can be possible.
Love you firebat! Long time viewer
Its because it's new. How many people go out and buy a brand new TV when they come out even though they have a perfectly good tv at home
I'm with you 1 million % on your opinion of consoles.
I can only legally play Mario on my Nintendo "counsil"
For anyone interested in the console vs PC price to performance comparison it has always gone like this.
On launch day the price to performance (P/P) of a console is much lower than a comparable PC (the Console has higher performance for the same price or same performance for less price)
This is always debatable with the “but a PC can do other things argument” and while this is generally a positive, the simplicity of a console that just works is also compelling to parents/casual users.
Now the explanation as to why the console has a lower p/p is that the cost is subsidized by the profits that Microsoft/Sony make with the sale of services and licensing of games.
Generally at about 1-2 years of a consoles life span a PC with better P/P is available. It’s at this point that despite the drop in cost of the console (50-125$ over the 1-2 years) the advance in computing has overtaken and cheaper more powerful parts are readily available.
PS. Nintendo is some wacky unicorn garden
Bejeweled started on PC, lol.
Pc are cheaper on the long run, but you commit less money to buy a console. Plus exclusives and personnal preference, both are economicaly viable for the compagnies still. It might change in the future tho.
Firebat, a $500 computer or laptop that a kid has so he can take zoom classes does not compete with an XSX or PS5, especially at launch lol. And if you get a discless PS5 at $400 that price to performance is even crazier.
Also one of the ideas behind the new xbox is that it's highly modular and specific components can be taken out easily, kind of like a PC.
What firebat is describing is basically convincing people to buy graphics cards for their stock pcs. At that point you just need the games and a controller
Being from the mid atlantic I pronounce consoles differently
I wonder how disgusted Firebat became when he learned what Stadia actually is.
As a console gamer, the reason I like consoles over computers is that you buy the game and it just works.
Ed can we get top 10 anime battlegrounds betreyal with you backstabbing bat?
Why buy a console? Asks the guy who was given a free high end PC to play Hearthstone.
Most computers don't meet the graphics requirements of the majority of games that are worth playing, without a substantial investment in graphics and other specs
Firebat!! Trying to draw me back into HS with this damn spot on video title, shame on you. Been saying it for a decade, see back before fast internet we had glorious couch gaming with our friends so it made some sense. Now nobody has time, everything is online and everyone has a pc that does it better. Ppl in yr twitch actually arguing "but exclusives!" Yeah!! It's a problem, exclusives exist exclusively because consoles exist, it's a money grab. At some point ill grab a ps5 just to play demon souls and hate myself for it, just as I did for bloodborne.
This felt really disconnected from reality. Gaming pcs are really expensive and a lot more involved to maintain and play then a console. People don't put a computer in the living room hooked up to their tv and up front cost of a pc is a lot more limiting. It is so much easier for most people to pay 299-499 for a console that can run every game at fantastic settings with 0 set up then an at least 1000 dollar computer to run those same games at lower settings. Mind you I have great gaming pc and no consoles.
bejewled is on PC
The computer I have was made in the early 2000's and couldn't run anything that I'd want to play on playstation, I couldn't get a pc as good as the ps5 or new xbox for $500
So many facts
I had no malygos combo in deck just playing fun dragons and good old guardian animals. Couldn't draw anything useful after the ramp somehow. GGs
If PS5 ran Windows then it'd be a very capable PC
I think consoles original appeal was that they were simple. Put the cartridge in and it starts up. I see people saying in some if these comments to build a computer but that takes effort. Idk where I'd even start. But a console? I just buy it and download a game now.
I’m your cosine my name is brayden !
What if, hear me out, you can play a library of games, and don't need to buy specific games to allow for more access to new releases that you want to play, and your pc hardware doesn't matter because it is run on specialized hardware in a server warehouse and streamed to you. So with a $200 computer and am ethernet cable you can play top end new release games on your home pc.
Basically wants old steam back. I think we all do.
Bejeweled for PC 2021
Why do people spend $500 on a council? Because it's too annoying to turn off your computer, carry it downstairs and plug it in to your TV.
I have solved the problem by not owning a TV, so I watch all my shows on my computer anyway, So now I can invest that $500 council and $200+ TV into my computer and better monitors.
The other reason is that it's still easier to play a 4-player game with all your friends on a council than on a PC.
I cant play games on my pc from my couch, I can from a console
You can play pc from your couch on your TV. You just have to set it up. I think steam allows you to navigate with a controller.
You’re not thinking about consoles the right way. They are intentionally designed and released to be a gaming platform with longevity. With computers there is constant competition to build more powerful rigs with new releases aiming to take advantage of the constantly improving hardware.
PS4 Was released 7 years ago. Anyone who bought the first production run of PS4 in 2013 can still play any game released for PS4 to this day. If you and your friends all get the same console you don’t have to worry about upgrading for quite some to continue playing new releases with one another.
Handheld gaming devices are consoles that are basically entirely controllers. Look at the Nintendo switch
The comparison between $500 pcs and $500 consoles is kinda silly because you need a PC anyway. I'm with firebat here, you could spend a little extra money to get a good gaming pc and save a lot of money on a console.
The way firebat pronounces “COUNCIL” triggers me