@@andythehandyman472 I'm not trying to be anything, I simply am. Wether it scratches your ego or not, is not of my concern. That's just the way I like to define the difference of those, if you want to define it differently be your own guest.
No matter how many times iv watch Alex Honold climb el cap I will never be able to realize it. I was even more shocked when I visited Yosemite for first time
It's just unbelievable to even think someone could even consider the idea of climbing El Cap without a rope, let alone go out and not only do it, but make it look effortless, all while it's being filmed. It's truly one of the craziest feats I've ever seen. Alex is a one of a kind freak of nature.
My understanding…and it is rarely alluded to…albeit cold comfort…is that every “free solo” route has been already “free climbed” many times by by the free soloist to the point that virtually every toe and finger hold has been rehearsed and mentally prepared for to the greatest extent possible. It is a triumph of focus and preparation.
I feel like the “live to climb another day” is somewhat rock, as there is a lot of risk in free climbing. I’ve known people who have died or gottten seriously injured in sketchy falls fire climbing, good vid that gets the point across, though
With Sport, above 2nd/3rd clip a ground fall is very unlikely. Maybe an overhang on a slab route possible. Trad can be a little sketch at times but that is factored in and you are often a lot more careful over those sections. Climbing is actually very safe (when following proper safety guidelines). The larger risk to climbers is actually a pulley injury from crimping too hard.
@@emilyscloset2648 it’s more with rock, getting hit in the head or slamming into walls on whips, while yes it is sometimes caused by some carelessness, but even if you are wearing a helmet a giant piece of rock will still do real damage
Ese tio es una persona unica ...se ve en su mirada una especie de autismo ..y se ve q hace este deporte x pura satisfaccion personal ...Alex ....deveria d. Ser conocido y galardoneado en todo el mundo
You live to climb another day if your pro holds. If what you are climbing is vertical. There are many places where a fall of twice the distance from your last pro + rope stretch, would have you smacking ledges. Then there’s the chance your piece doesn’t hold. Like when you are showing a weighted cam holding your body weight, that’s not showing shit. It depends on the placement and then proper use of sling and doesn’t take into account the pieces potentially “walking” as you move above the piece. Then how its weighted in dynamic fall.
I'm not going anywhere if getting back down isn't an easy task. How tf do you get way up there and get stuck? What happens next? Yup my 17' ladder makes my hands sweat every year putting up holiday decorations so that's my limit. I'm scared of heights in a way that falling terrifies me and it happens in my dreams a lot. But a roller coaster is fun af and I remember being in a C-130 landing and taking off in a combat zone as the cargo was fun too 😂
Free solo must be the most hard core sport in the world - but it most be also most enjoyable thing and giving you the biggest adrenaline boost. You are totally free
The rope doesn't actually assist in the climb. The rope is just there to catch you if you fall. I.e you are climbing free from any aids. Free solo is without any protection/aid whatsoever. You can have other people there in a free solo but they wouldn't be there to belay etc like a free climb and may also be climbing solo with or just on standby for whatever reason.
It's never aid climbing unless you're actually pulling yourself up the wall with gear to complete the climb. If you're performing all the moves on the rock itself, it's free climbing.
@@lukedeutschbauer6724 prepare for it? You mean getting a will in order? There's a million other ways you could do something difficult and physically demanding if you just need that kind of satisfaction, I get that feeling believe me, but why do you need to risk your life to get it? Just hike a mountain trail, run a marathon, go kayaking, lift weights, you don't need to hang over a thousand foot cliff to get endorphins my dude.
@@lukedeutschbauer6724 driving can easily kill you, but it's still stupid to drive in the wrong lane with no seatbelt on. Walking can kill you if you trip and break your neck somehow, doesn't mean walking in a minefield isn't a million times more dangerous. You want a darwin award? Fine I dont care, but quit annoying me with your bullsh!t logic acting like every activity is equally dangerous. Stfu😒
And the rope is only for protection, a freeclimber must have the same skills than a freesolo climber if the climb must being a sucess, rope are only the backups for freeclimbers.
One of the appeals of free soloing is the fact that the only thing that can protect you from falling is your own ability. Also carrying a parachute only protects you if you are above a certain height above the ground. Carrying a pack with a parachute also hinders your ability to climb.
There are only a very limited amount of climbs that would help. You’d have to be atleast 800 feet up on a completely vertical wall. That’s a misconception. Even climbs like El Cap have ledges or pillars that project outwards. It’s rare to be somewhere where you’d fall straight to the ground without bouncing off of ledges. In the same way you could fall, hit your head and even if your protection holds you can die.
@@koenbeeckman87 cadence knows a lil more than you apparently.. Trad is lead climbing and sport climbing is lead climbing. Both are free climbing ( trying not to use the protection, but its there)
@@TheGoatLocker free climbing is called that in contrast to aid climbing, i believe the term is a shortening of "free from direct aid". pretty sure the term predates the term "free solo"
The term "free climbing" is a very old term that existed long before the term "free soloing" was in use. It was coined in the 70s to differentiate between climbing of your own ability vs. "aid climbing", which is using equipment to help you get up the wall, which was almost exclusively the type of rock climbing that was done up to that point. Free soloing is an off-shoot term of free climbing, the term "soloing" being added to differentiate from just regular free climbing with gear.
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He's speaking of free climbing yet shows a sport climbing video. Clip. Nerd. Haha free climbing is placed gear trad gear not a bolted route. Nice try Better luck next time .
Sport climbers are free climbing. Trad climbers are also free climbing. The only people not free climbing are aid climbers, because they are using the gear to make upward progress, not just to catch their fall. I’ll never understand people who make arrogant comments like this about things they clearly do not understand.
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Biggest misconceptions among non climbers maybe
Yeah no shit.
I think it's because most non-climbers don't get that aid climbing is a thing.
@@skippy22 btf, only last year or so I've gotten an appreciation for how serious hard aid can be.
Brits call it soloing or just trad or sport
@@gabrieletchell3200 yeah I've heard trad
Free Soloing is a state of mind
Free Climbing is a sport and passion
Well said Francesco
Both are sports and passions. Don’t try to be poetic
@@andythehandyman472 I'm not trying to be anything, I simply am. Wether it scratches your ego or not, is not of my concern.
That's just the way I like to define the difference of those, if you want to define it differently be your own guest.
@@phrometaren Ok thanks. Sorry for being rude
@@phrometaren what a nice interaction this community is so wholesome ❤️
At this point I would almost rather see Alex climb with ropes. He has proved everything he needs to. Now I just want to see him live a long life!
Yes we need to keep him wrapped up with bubble wrap! 😂😂 He is the closes human relative to Spider-Man!
I don't think he ever did it because he was trying to prove something. He just enjoys it😊
Its not about what you want.
@@jakephillips4453 who da fuck is this guy??!!
You don't get the same feeling climbing with ropes, if You've ever climbed anything without any protection you would get it
Alex Honnold, God bless
Wym god bless? Dudes still alive
@@intamate1566 you can bless people who are still alive..
@@zenthous9568 No you can't. Only Zeus can.
@@ClarkPotter what?
No matter how many times iv watch Alex Honold climb el cap I will never be able to realize it. I was even more shocked when I visited Yosemite for first time
It's just unbelievable to even think someone could even consider the idea of climbing El Cap without a rope, let alone go out and not only do it, but make it look effortless, all while it's being filmed. It's truly one of the craziest feats I've ever seen. Alex is a one of a kind freak of nature.
Was there a couple days ago and yeah, holy shit
My understanding…and it is rarely alluded to…albeit cold comfort…is that every “free solo” route has been already “free climbed” many times by by the free soloist to the point that virtually every toe and finger hold has been rehearsed and mentally prepared for to the greatest extent possible. It is a triumph of focus and preparation.
I feel like the “live to climb another day” is somewhat rock, as there is a lot of risk in free climbing. I’ve known people who have died or gottten seriously injured in sketchy falls fire climbing, good vid that gets the point across, though
With Sport, above 2nd/3rd clip a ground fall is very unlikely. Maybe an overhang on a slab route possible.
Trad can be a little sketch at times but that is factored in and you are often a lot more careful over those sections.
Climbing is actually very safe (when following proper safety guidelines).
The larger risk to climbers is actually a pulley injury from crimping too hard.
@@emilyscloset2648 it’s more with rock, getting hit in the head or slamming into walls on whips, while yes it is sometimes caused by some carelessness, but even if you are wearing a helmet a giant piece of rock will still do real damage
@@demoniccat1005 I don't know what you're climbing but most common routes don't have a lot of loose rock/any
@@emilyscloset2648 depends on the place, quite common in some lesser climbed areas, not normal obv
That Crux Move Alex does is Still Sweaty AF
I think it’s important to also mention solo climbing is climbing alone but with protection
Appreciate your content.
Alex Honnold is a living legend - he is humble, and does not chase lime light - quality authentic guy. FJB..
He is a living legend
Ese tio es una persona unica ...se ve en su mirada una especie de autismo ..y se ve q hace este deporte x pura satisfaccion personal ...Alex ....deveria d. Ser conocido y galardoneado en todo el mundo
That doesn’t explain how free climbing is different than regular lead climbing. Please explain, I’m new to climbing
What’s really amazing is how good alux hannuld is at climving
You live to climb another day if your pro holds. If what you are climbing is vertical. There are many places where a fall of twice the distance from your last pro + rope stretch, would have you smacking ledges. Then there’s the chance your piece doesn’t hold. Like when you are showing a weighted cam holding your body weight, that’s not showing shit. It depends on the placement and then proper use of sling and doesn’t take into account the pieces potentially “walking” as you move above the piece. Then how its weighted in dynamic fall.
Alex honnold climb free solo of El Sendero luminoso and El Capitan is simply insane
I'm not going anywhere if getting back down isn't an easy task. How tf do you get way up there and get stuck? What happens next? Yup my 17' ladder makes my hands sweat every year putting up holiday decorations so that's my limit. I'm scared of heights in a way that falling terrifies me and it happens in my dreams a lot. But a roller coaster is fun af and I remember being in a C-130 landing and taking off in a combat zone as the cargo was fun too 😂
Thanks!👍🏼
Sound nice in theory but you dont catch me doing it
My hands are sweaty 😂😂
The best free solo ever is Alex Honnold🤘
Nah, Marc Andre Leclerc was the best free soloist to live
soloist* gumbies suck so bad these days. god forbid people just be quiet and listen when in the room with more experienced people
Free solo is going in raw balls deep
Free soloing is a subset of Free climbing. Free climbing means to climb without aid gear. Aid climbing also uses rope and protection
Free climbing have aids, free soloing don’t. U said it wrong
You live to climb another day in free climbing while you climb to live another day in free soloing. There is little to no room for mistakes.
It’s like freerunning and parkour.Freerunning is alot of stylish bs whilst parkour is the fundamentals and more core and practical then flashy
Video Soloing is only using your own original video content, free videoing is also using other peoples content for protection amd clicks
These people can't convince me free climbing has the wrong definition, free soloing sounds a lot less cool
Free solo must be the most hard core sport in the world - but it most be also most enjoyable thing and giving you the biggest adrenaline boost. You are totally free
I free solo all the time in the bouldering gym
One needs rope to carry their massive balls the other uses their massive balls to carry them
Other words for it are rope climbing and bouldering. I love bouldering hundreds of feet above the ground
thats not what bouldering is
No, because rope climbing inculdes both free climbing and aid climbing.
@@billbrogeny6835 it’s all in your head brother. It is what u r.
How is climbing with rope considered free climbing? I thought difference was that there’s nobody else there with you in solo
The rope doesn't actually assist in the climb. The rope is just there to catch you if you fall. I.e you are climbing free from any aids. Free solo is without any protection/aid whatsoever. You can have other people there in a free solo but they wouldn't be there to belay etc like a free climb and may also be climbing solo with or just on standby for whatever reason.
In a much smaller sentence: Free solo is without any protection.
There.
You could just say in free soloing if you fall it's game over.
Ones team death match the other is search and destroy
Question that confused me, if i go free climbing and i fall does it still count as a free climb sent or does it then become aid climbing
You're still free climbing, you just didn't send.
@@josephclimbs9495 thanks!
It's never aid climbing unless you're actually pulling yourself up the wall with gear to complete the climb. If you're performing all the moves on the rock itself, it's free climbing.
Climbers could have just called that 'solo free' and 'solo rope'.
my milk shake brought all the gals to the bar
Wouldn't free climbing just be lead climbing?
Includes things like top roping and bouldering as well since both use some sort of protection.
Biggest misconception between sane and suicidal.
I think you have to be alittle insane to do either
just do easy stuff and prepare for it
@@lukedeutschbauer6724 prepare for it? You mean getting a will in order? There's a million other ways you could do something difficult and physically demanding if you just need that kind of satisfaction, I get that feeling believe me, but why do you need to risk your life to get it? Just hike a mountain trail, run a marathon, go kayaking, lift weights, you don't need to hang over a thousand foot cliff to get endorphins my dude.
@@ultimatesurvivor4683 all those things can easily kill you. I can say with confidence that I will not die on a 5.3 freesolo because it is very easy.
@@lukedeutschbauer6724 driving can easily kill you, but it's still stupid to drive in the wrong lane with no seatbelt on. Walking can kill you if you trip and break your neck somehow, doesn't mean walking in a minefield isn't a million times more dangerous.
You want a darwin award? Fine I dont care, but quit annoying me with your bullsh!t logic acting like every activity is equally dangerous. Stfu😒
And the rope is only for protection, a freeclimber must have the same skills than a freesolo climber if the climb must being a sucess, rope are only the backups for freeclimbers.
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“Solo” represents the lack of partner, you can solo with pro if you are self belaying
Than there’s Solo Free Climbing, using a self belay technique. That make for a fun video & quite the PSA
This is all I heard "they are the same but these free solo guys got bigger balls" lol jk both are very impressive
You mean big balls vs small balls
I really don't think this is a big misconception lol
I feel the term should reverse
#savegamevsendgame
What's the misconception?
Free soloing is like Russian roulette. Eventually you will die..
I don’t see the e difference between free climbing here and trad climbing. That just looks like trad climbing
Isn’t it just lead climbing. Even top rope your using everything to climb you just don’t fall as far as lead
Why don’t all people who free solo wear a parachute?
One of the appeals of free soloing is the fact that the only thing that can protect you from falling is your own ability. Also carrying a parachute only protects you if you are above a certain height above the ground. Carrying a pack with a parachute also hinders your ability to climb.
You know parachute is a huge heavy object right?
or a carbon/titanium eject pac with old school Reebok pumps
There are only a very limited amount of climbs that would help. You’d have to be atleast 800 feet up on a completely vertical wall. That’s a misconception. Even climbs like El Cap have ledges or pillars that project outwards. It’s rare to be somewhere where you’d fall straight to the ground without bouncing off of ledges. In the same way you could fall, hit your head and even if your protection holds you can die.
Free solo is what you do when you're poor 🤷♂️
No need to spend a thousand on a rack if you just don't fall
Or have no friends off and available on a day you want to climb.
You can still live if you fall from a free solo from a climb over water or wear a parachute
Not free soloing wearing a chute lol
So Alex Honnold is just better than Adam Ondra
Where is theisvonception?
Why does he keep repeating himself. I got it the first time. God damn it, the young people from today, always in loop mode!
free climbing??, you mean lead climbing or trad climbing?, free soloing shure is without protection free climbing i dont understand
There is also assisted climbing where you have aid lol. Trad/ lead/ top rope are all forms of free climbing.
@@cadenceking8598 i just call it climbing, also a climber
@@koenbeeckman87 cadence knows a lil more than you apparently.. Trad is lead climbing and sport climbing is lead climbing. Both are free climbing ( trying not to use the protection, but its there)
Top Rope is free climbing if you arent weighting the rope. Toprope solo is also a thing...
He could mean rope soloing?
I'll take a pass on both.
Isn't free climbing just lead climbing?
Quite simple death wish
Free climbing is harder since you gotta carry and use all that protection and communicate with your belayer. Only noobs free solo, lol
And I'll do none of them
I feel like rock climbers only started calling it "free climbing" when people started free soloing lol
I could be wrong I'm not a climber at all, just joking kinda. No offense to anyone!
@@TheGoatLocker free climbing is called that in contrast to aid climbing, i believe the term is a shortening of "free from direct aid". pretty sure the term predates the term "free solo"
The term "free climbing" is a very old term that existed long before the term "free soloing" was in use. It was coined in the 70s to differentiate between climbing of your own ability vs. "aid climbing", which is using equipment to help you get up the wall, which was almost exclusively the type of rock climbing that was done up to that point. Free soloing is an off-shoot term of free climbing, the term "soloing" being added to differentiate from just regular free climbing with gear.
Thanks for this.. I've done both and prefer Free Solo
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For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved. (Romans 10:13)
I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish. (Luke 13:5)
The LORD is righteous in all his ways, and holy in all his works. The LORD is nigh unto all them that call upon him, to all that call upon him in truth. He will fulfil the desire of them that fear him: he also will hear their cry, and will save them. The LORD preserveth all them that love him: but all the wicked will he destroy. (Psalms 145:17-20)
Also free climbing is more physical because you pulling the heavy rope
And free solo is less physical but mental
This post sucks. What exactly is the misconception? I mean…duhhh
it's really not
so in other words free climbing is for wooses😅
He's speaking of free climbing yet shows a sport climbing video. Clip. Nerd. Haha free climbing is placed gear trad gear not a bolted route. Nice try Better luck next time .
Sport climbers are free climbing. Trad climbers are also free climbing. The only people not free climbing are aid climbers, because they are using the gear to make upward progress, not just to catch their fall. I’ll never understand people who make arrogant comments like this about things they clearly do not understand.
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