The Ken Tamplin plot thickens, Evidence of studio lip-syncing and guitar miming

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  • Опубликовано: 21 ноя 2024
  • This is my final word at Ken's expense. I am addressing a few comments from my last video and clarifying where I may not have been clear. Try my vocal course if you want something very different. wmg.mykajabi.c..., and by request, here is the link to Puddles! • PUDDLES PITY PARTY SHO...

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  • @stevena3244
    @stevena3244 Месяц назад +411

    I purchased Ken's 'How to Blow Your Own Trumpet' course. Now, I walk around with a ridiculous air of superiority.

    • @PlanetHOfficial
      @PlanetHOfficial Месяц назад +9

      hahaha

    • @WIP532
      @WIP532 Месяц назад +12

      My lack of confidence holds me back. Thanks for the advice, Steve 👍

    • @TheShonuff888
      @TheShonuff888 Месяц назад +31

      Like Ken says, the proof is in the syncing.

    • @DoctorEnigma01
      @DoctorEnigma01 Месяц назад +8

      😂😂😂

    • @livingbeing1113
      @livingbeing1113 Месяц назад +8

      Lmfao!😂😂😂

  • @stevena3244
    @stevena3244 Месяц назад +278

    I saw Ken was worried about the guitar playing analysis, so I told him not two fret too much.

  • @geoffreywood5808
    @geoffreywood5808 Месяц назад +254

    Bottom line, in all the years Ken has been singing, and all the albums he has put out, why has no one EVER heard of him if he is “so good”.

    • @25is27
      @25is27 Месяц назад +15

      I agree. The only Tamplin I ever heard of is a Plumber local to me. Mr Tamplin - Self praise, by the way, is no praise at all!

    • @Ratzfourtyfour
      @Ratzfourtyfour Месяц назад +31

      When I heard about this guy on Fil's channel I had to google him.

    • @blairhatton3066
      @blairhatton3066 Месяц назад +33

      Because his songs are objectively dreadful

    • @micheletotton9342
      @micheletotton9342 Месяц назад +5

      Funny that's exactly what I was thinking

    • @carolynjtoday
      @carolynjtoday Месяц назад +3

      Facts

  • @danij5055
    @danij5055 Месяц назад +155

    Ken Tamplin is the most humble guy. Just ask him. I'm sure he'd tell you 😉

    • @devon-graves-studio-D
      @devon-graves-studio-D  Месяц назад +16

      🤣

    • @RaffaelWindgassen
      @RaffaelWindgassen Месяц назад +13

      @@danij5055
      He is actually so humble that he comes across as arrogant, just like his tounge is so relaxed that it looks stiff.

    • @ANDY-h6m
      @ANDY-h6m Месяц назад +2

      😂

    • @utha2665
      @utha2665 Месяц назад +9

      In Australia we have an acronym that describes people like Ken. FIGJAM - Fck I'm Good, Just Ask Me.

    • @dmaikibujin
      @dmaikibujin Месяц назад +2

      I, Too, Am Extraordinarily Humble!
      😁

  • @davidwilliamdanielthomas9305
    @davidwilliamdanielthomas9305 Месяц назад +81

    On the other hand, Puddles, who I have never heard of before, is an extraordinary vocalist. His clarity, his phrasing, his inflection and his subtle power are all masterful. It is a pleasure to listen to him.

    • @davidwilliamdanielthomas9305
      @davidwilliamdanielthomas9305 Месяц назад +1

      @flimmaytinstone8980 Thank you, Puddles. You have an extraordinary, unique and strikingly beautiful and pure voice. I mentioned on your page that , to me, you inhabit a singular vocal ground located between Tom Waits, Klaus Nomi and Robert Preston. I apologize for my ignorance. I haven't watched TV for over 15 years but how did you train? Are you self taught? A natural talent? I am always curious as to the magic behind the curtain. Thank you for making my day with your talent.

    • @geoffreywood5808
      @geoffreywood5808 Месяц назад +2

      I’ve watched many of Puddles videos. Great vocalist. I love his “mashed-up” songs. Takes the lyrics of one song and sings it to another song. Surreal.

    • @MadcapShambleton
      @MadcapShambleton Месяц назад +2

      @flimmaytinstone8980 Your training has served you well - big up to Mr. Haney!

    • @davidwilliamdanielthomas9305
      @davidwilliamdanielthomas9305 Месяц назад

      @flimmaytinstone8980 Thanks, Puddles. I understand persona, having lurked in the world of professional wrestling for a season. A further question, then, and again forgive my ignorance as i have just discovered your work today and am excited to be able to speak (or text, as it were) with you, do you sing differently in or out of your persona? Does the makeup affect your vocals? I am loving watching your work.

    • @MandPKratz
      @MandPKratz Месяц назад +3

      I was sitting back in my chair, just casually watching the video, by the time the Puddles clip was over, I found myself totally leaned in up to my monitor (and speakers) just sopping it in. Rather glad I dropped by

  • @juantomas748
    @juantomas748 Месяц назад +92

    Ken Tamplin once ate a Rubik's cube and pooped it out solved.

    • @adiwild
      @adiwild Месяц назад +6

      Chuck Norris did that too😂

    • @bustercherry8734
      @bustercherry8734 Месяц назад +2

      Then ate it again.

    • @DumpTrump-4ever
      @DumpTrump-4ever Месяц назад

      I heard in less than 5 seconds. Legend.

    • @paulciampo2104
      @paulciampo2104 Месяц назад

      He's just that good

    • @dkpianist
      @dkpianist Месяц назад +2

      He also played a seven note chord on a six string.

  • @Ratzfourtyfour
    @Ratzfourtyfour Месяц назад +52

    Today coach Ken taught me to sing in a 45 deg angle to the mic from 3 feet distance. Thank you, Ken.

    • @devon-graves-studio-D
      @devon-graves-studio-D  Месяц назад +14

      That's how they do it in the pros! :)

    • @Cloudburzt
      @Cloudburzt Месяц назад +11

      I laughed when I saw the video of him singing/playing. I have only casually watched his videos in the past on RUclips and thought his tongue technique looked a bit weird. But that video Devon showed here in the video was ridiculous. Just looked like miming to me. I'm no expert, but the microphone technique looked weird indeed (not to mention the guitar playing).

    • @johndelconte9915
      @johndelconte9915 Месяц назад +6

      @@Cloudburztmy guess is his followers and supporters aren’t musicians, or they’re beginners that haven’t found better tutorial channels yet. Some of them are free. I hope they do find them before they get discouraged and hang up their dreams.

    • @johnsmilitantbelch
      @johnsmilitantbelch Месяц назад +10

      ​@@CloudburztI'm no musician, but that tongue looks all kinds of wrong

    • @michaelharrington75
      @michaelharrington75 Месяц назад +3

      ​@@johnsmilitantbelch Wrong for singing, yes.

  • @vihaze6725
    @vihaze6725 27 дней назад +7

    Thank you for promoting Puddles. He deserves huge amounts of success.

  • @drebatista
    @drebatista Месяц назад +44

    I hate when people compare Ken to Coverdale or Dio. He doesnt have the soul and the elegance of those two.

    • @totallyfrozen
      @totallyfrozen Месяц назад +16

      People?
      Ken Tamplin compares himself to Coverdale and Dio.

    • @ActionFigureMagic
      @ActionFigureMagic Месяц назад +2

      Who does that?😂

    • @danij5055
      @danij5055 Месяц назад +4

      @@ActionFigureMagic Answer: Ken Tamplin 😂

    • @ActionFigureMagic
      @ActionFigureMagic Месяц назад +2

      @@danij5055 hahahahah 😂

    • @teijaflink2226
      @teijaflink2226 Месяц назад +1

      How dare anyone compare, what an insult to Coverdale and Dio.

  • @gonzalollach1189
    @gonzalollach1189 Месяц назад +32

    I watch that Sebastian Bach's video with my son everyday, we always lough together when he jumps in over that beautiful voice. Insane. He's a meme of himself. Great video!

  • @giuseppecapelli8328
    @giuseppecapelli8328 Месяц назад +80

    I have only known Mr. Tamplin on RUclips as a voice coach and I have never heard of him as a musician and concert performer, but I am Italian so I am excused. I think I will still follow him since he managed, with a 22 fret guitar, to play a note that only exists on the neck of a 24 fret guitar.

    • @Speed.Racer.5
      @Speed.Racer.5 Месяц назад +3

      😂

    • @rabidpb
      @rabidpb Месяц назад +13

      Actually, it's a 21 fret guitar, which makes it an even more legendary feat.

    • @giuseppecapelli8328
      @giuseppecapelli8328 Месяц назад +12

      @@rabidpb Sorry for my mistake I was comparing Ken's guitar with the one in Fil's hands when I saw his latest youtube video on the matter. Surely with 21 frets one is led to believe in miracles.

    • @carltroia6235
      @carltroia6235 Месяц назад +7

      At this stage now the guitar is miming itself

    • @CharlieBoy360
      @CharlieBoy360 Месяц назад +10

      I think he was hitting the 24th fret on a 21 fret Squire. 3 and 4 step bends while shredding in E standard tuning, no big deal. Not just that but he's able to get very high or low notes while he's playing on the complete opposite side of the neck. Guitar Jesus for sure. EVH eat your heart out.

  • @pizzaearthpancakesandother2549
    @pizzaearthpancakesandother2549 Месяц назад +24

    Ken has potential to win the Air Guitar World Championships. He shreds that well.

  • @quicktastic
    @quicktastic Месяц назад +34

    True respect is earned, not demanded.

    • @caseyjpayne7606
      @caseyjpayne7606 29 дней назад

      Earned? Have you heard his albums?

    • @bridget22868
      @bridget22868 29 дней назад

      @@caseyjpayne7606 Im confused by your comment, are you talking about Sabatian Bachs videos or Ken Tamplins? I think Quicktastic is meaning that Ken has to earn the respect before he can have it. And not demand to have it.

    • @caseyjpayne7606
      @caseyjpayne7606 27 дней назад

      @@bridget22868 Do you mean to say that Ken demands respect from someone?

  • @KevinHallSurfing
    @KevinHallSurfing Месяц назад +69

    Playing "live" hitting the 24th fret on a Fender Squire, amazing when Strats have 21 frets but Ken swears he is playing it live? 🤔🤣😂

    • @devon-graves-studio-D
      @devon-graves-studio-D  Месяц назад +5

      That was a different video. I checked his high note on this one and it was indeed on the 21st fret... at least.

  • @G..G..
    @G..G.. Месяц назад +38

    That "Puddles Pity Party" was just a wonderful performance. Such a beautiful voice.

    • @Chez8922-kf6cy
      @Chez8922-kf6cy Месяц назад +5

      He is divine. I love his voice. I would drive a long distance to watch him sing.

    • @devon-graves-studio-D
      @devon-graves-studio-D  Месяц назад +7

      ...And what a moving performer as well, right?

  • @Cloudburzt
    @Cloudburzt Месяц назад +27

    I haven't watched all of this yet, only the first 3½ minutes, but in relation to something you said in your last video as well, and in this with "Ken, you don't have to say you're the greatest singer, the greatest vocal coach", this is my approach to teaching: I don't have a long career behind me in teaching and have never played professionally (but I've had some nice comments about my teaching, which I appreciate A LOT). However, one of the things I always highlight when teaching is "this is how I approach X, Y, Z..." or "this is what has worked for me in learning/understanding X, Y, Z...", and trying to find a way for a student that works for THEM to understand it - and that may be a different approach to my own, but I can still support that approach. Selling a course or lesson as "this is the BEST/ONLY way to learn guitar/singing/piano" always irks me. It seems your approach is not about gloating like Ken, that's for sure! I can always appreciate that.

    • @devon-graves-studio-D
      @devon-graves-studio-D  Месяц назад +8

      I like your approach, and I like what you said. Thank you, and all the best with your singing and teaching! BTW, I just subscribed to your channel ;)

    • @Cloudburzt
      @Cloudburzt Месяц назад +3

      @@devon-graves-studio-D I appreciate that so much! Thank you - that's a bucket load of motivation for me to keep going right there! I have a few guitar covers of Psychotic Waltz on my channel but plan on doing more.

  • @bradashlock
    @bradashlock Месяц назад +21

    Your metaphor about playing a guitar at the 24th fret captures the issue perfectly!

  • @jonny5alive123
    @jonny5alive123 Месяц назад +27

    Why would Ken sing over double tracked songs with backing vocals, drums,etc and pretend that it’s live.
    It’s so obvious that he is miming.

    • @petermorrissey3698
      @petermorrissey3698 Месяц назад

      Coz hes an idiot thats so far up his own backside he doesn't think mere mortals like us could catch it.

    • @USMarine75
      @USMarine75 Месяц назад +2

      Exactly this.

    • @AzizaPoggiworld
      @AzizaPoggiworld 25 дней назад

      @jonny5alive123 cuz he thinks he's a vocal god? Hell find a reason. Hell pull one out of his bad of tricks.

  • @victortang2125
    @victortang2125 25 дней назад +3

    Ken Tamplin is the Trump of Singing. So successful despite so many flaws! Hats off to that. If anything, he is talked about.

  • @katiekawaii
    @katiekawaii Месяц назад +9

    See, people appreciate honesty. Homie is like, "I'm making this video for views. The last one was popular." And everyone is like "we're okay with this."

  • @jackblevel8296
    @jackblevel8296 Месяц назад +5

    Puddles is an amazing singer ❤ Thanks for sharing, I would never have known about him.

  • @jonashornqvistgitarrlektioner
    @jonashornqvistgitarrlektioner Месяц назад +23

    I've always looked up to Ken and his work, but this lip-syncing scandal has completely shattered my respect for him. It's a real shame to see someone build a career on something so dishonest

    • @devon-graves-studio-D
      @devon-graves-studio-D  Месяц назад +9

      He "hid" my comment which allows me to see it, but no one else. That is borderline psychopathic deception imo. I think not be finished with him yet. But my promise was this is my last word on the topic, being lip syncing. I won't talk about THAT :) I didn't use to totally dislike him, but now it's a different story. Not as much about my comment, but watch his video on "How to sing Painkiller" where he claims to sing it better than Rob Halford LOL

    • @DomVonDoom
      @DomVonDoom Месяц назад

      ​@@devon-graves-studio-DI believe that is called "Shadow Banning" and it's practiced by thin skin narcissists.

    • @jonashornqvistgitarrlektioner
      @jonashornqvistgitarrlektioner Месяц назад +1

      @@devon-graves-studio-D He claims he can sing better than the metal GOD Rob Halford? Hahahahahahahahaha!!!

    • @JeffCogswell
      @JeffCogswell Месяц назад

      Same. I had my disagreements with him on the best way for a baritone to hit the high tenor notes (Geoff Tate vs Ken) and that's all cool, mostly just opinion on what sounds better. But seriously, WTF! This latest thing is so messed up! My respect for him has plummeted.

  • @loisr1560
    @loisr1560 Месяц назад +35

    I had never heard of Ken Tamplin until all of this blew up. He is so far up his own a@#$ he can touch his tongue.

    • @kubacube342
      @kubacube342 Месяц назад +1

      same

    • @acatnameddoerak
      @acatnameddoerak Месяц назад +4

      Apart from the incrowd nobody has. And after all this lying even his dear Lord doesn't want to know him anymore.
      Still, why am I so sure that Trump would speak highly of him, if he knew Tamplin? Though at the same time I'd assume that Trump would say he's actualy be a better singer and guitar player than Tamplin.

    • @RavenLuna-ii6lx
      @RavenLuna-ii6lx Месяц назад

    • @michaelharrington75
      @michaelharrington75 Месяц назад +1

      Maybe that's the problem with his tongue?

    • @michaelharrington75
      @michaelharrington75 Месяц назад

      ​@@acatnameddoerak People gotta find a way to bring Trump into a discussion that isn't even about Trump. TDS is a real disease.

  • @matthewrichard7187
    @matthewrichard7187 24 дня назад +2

    Amen, man. Love that you address the way Ken critiques singers. There is no “one right way”. That alone tells me he shouldn’t be “coaching” anyone. That’s not what a mentor/coach does.

    • @devon-graves-studio-D
      @devon-graves-studio-D  23 дня назад

      Good point. And to me, his voice, particularly his calmer midrange is so nasal and throaty that it sounds really bad. More of an example of what NOT to do. Thanks for your comment, friend.

  • @alijafri2022
    @alijafri2022 Месяц назад +21

    Puddles! What a legend! Here's someone so talented that he doesn't need to justify anything to anyone. Never has. Perhaps Mike Geier learnt from KTVA.

    • @devon-graves-studio-D
      @devon-graves-studio-D  Месяц назад +10

      Not only do I love his singing, but his acting, his performance is quite moving. The way he acts depressed and hopeless between certain lines...

    • @Chez8922-kf6cy
      @Chez8922-kf6cy Месяц назад +3

      Legend indeed.

    • @scottjensen1513
      @scottjensen1513 Месяц назад +4

      He needs to SWALLOW HIS PRIDE !!
      But as a said in another text to you, narcissists NEVER ADMIT THEYRE WRONG OR EVER HAVE BEEN WRONG. So everybody DO T HOKD YOUR BREATH.

  • @luapjb
    @luapjb Месяц назад +11

    Humility is perhaps the most underrated of all virtues; you went said it so well from 4:20.

  • @mahalayananda
    @mahalayananda Месяц назад +3

    I love your approach, like also Phil from wings of Pegasus. Clear and factual and humble as it should be. Ken's personality truly gets in his own way. Thank you for sharing Puddles Pity Party, what a wonderful voice. I love when musicians bring other musicians forward.

  • @markototev
    @markototev Месяц назад +29

    At this point he's not waving. He's drowning. Let's wave back at him!

    • @devon-graves-studio-D
      @devon-graves-studio-D  Месяц назад +1

      Ha! Nice one!

    • @markototev
      @markototev Месяц назад +1

      @@devon-graves-studio-D Keep making these vids and I will find a way to make it relevant to at least one lyric every time! :D

    • @markhamstra1083
      @markhamstra1083 Месяц назад

      Poor chap, he always loved larking

    • @redpaulxx
      @redpaulxx Месяц назад +1

      Actually he's syncing not waving😊

  • @pitpride1220
    @pitpride1220 Месяц назад +4

    Puddles has done great work with Post Modern Jukebox! Thank you for doing another detailed Tamplin video.

    • @JeffCogswell
      @JeffCogswell Месяц назад +1

      Yes! Puddles! Post Modern Jukebox! Real talent!

  • @ryanmattie974
    @ryanmattie974 Месяц назад +23

    He doesn't delete the comments, instead he sets them to that "hide comment from channel" setting. If you go look, your comment looks like it's there but no one else can see it. Imagine policing every single comment on your Facebook, Instagram and RUclips. You'd need to hire staff

    • @Jade_902
      @Jade_902 Месяц назад +3

      I looked and Devon’s comment is not there on that video. Last comment singing praises to KT was 9 days ago.

    • @devon-graves-studio-D
      @devon-graves-studio-D  Месяц назад +9

      Unbelievable LOL

    • @PeteC62
      @PeteC62 Месяц назад +3

      OMG so RUclips literally has a "shadow ban" setting.

    • @covers_girl
      @covers_girl Месяц назад +2

      ​@PeteC62 yes, that's what makes RUclips so insidious. So many people over the years think their conment is being ignored, while in reality only they can see it.

  • @deepalkessa8938
    @deepalkessa8938 Месяц назад +3

    I love the way u take out the positives of him before going down with the issues of the whole situation. I used to watch some of his videos, and yes i love the video of Sabastian Bachs singing that particular song was impressive its one of my favorite live songs of Sabastian. I hope he comes out with the truth on the backing tracks lip syncing. Another musician i love, but would really want to know if they miming is Nikki Sixx.

  • @komoru
    @komoru Месяц назад +10

    Someone needs to put up a public challenge to Ken and tell him that if he can sing/play a stripped down version of this on a livestream with no backing track, in the same key as in his 1989 studio recording, a large check would be delivered to a charity of his choice. The rules would be simple: all he can bring is his guitar, pedal board, and an amp. The studio would supply the rest. This could be done at any neutral, third party studio near him.

  • @jnemo2605
    @jnemo2605 Месяц назад +5

    Puddles doesn't clown around when he's singing, good voice.

  • @Kevin-j5w2w
    @Kevin-j5w2w Месяц назад +12

    I think I once heard somewhere that Ken beat Chuck Norris in a fight😮

  • @launtschuannfoa9122
    @launtschuannfoa9122 Месяц назад +6

    Devon, still you are a gentleman! True words but nicely spoken!!!! All the best for you!!! :) :) :)

  • @shegocrazy
    @shegocrazy Месяц назад +4

    David Gilmore doesn't plug his guitar into an amp...he plugs it into Ken.

  • @Zyndstoff
    @Zyndstoff 27 дней назад +9

    Before today, I had never even heard about Ken Tamplin. After watching several videos on different YT-channels I conclude: he must be the Donald Trump of the rock music scene.

  • @davidroach1567
    @davidroach1567 Месяц назад +9

    Love your commentary. My old football coach said this. “What people say about themselves out of arrogance reveals their specific weakness and jealousy”. I think Ken reveals it clearly. Sadly he is getting more popular because of it still.

    • @ryanmattie974
      @ryanmattie974 Месяц назад

      I don't think it's the attention he wants tho

  • @carstenfisch9990
    @carstenfisch9990 Месяц назад +6

    I just want to thank Ken for bringing up your video about him to my feed. I did not know you actually have a channel until now. Watching your stuff backwards now. I am a fan of yours since I saw you July 7th 1993. Didn’t knew who you were, some friend said waltz is worth going.. and you blew my head straight off. Still got that ticket to this day. I hope I get a chance to see you again live.

    • @aminyakunda
      @aminyakunda Месяц назад

      Hehe, similar here :) But I haven't had the chance to see either PW or DT live :(

    • @alexmayhew8989
      @alexmayhew8989 17 дней назад

      You need to set the bar highet

    • @alexmayhew8989
      @alexmayhew8989 17 дней назад

      Higher

  • @RavingMadStudios
    @RavingMadStudios Месяц назад +2

    It’s cool how he manages to play multi-guitar harmonies and sing vocal harmonies all by himself at the same time. Especially while not even facing the mic. It’s amazing how he plays lead and rhythm simultaneously, too. It takes real talent to keep the chords consistent while doing a dive bomb.

  • @Nevertoosweet2eat
    @Nevertoosweet2eat Месяц назад +5

    YES, yes , you hit it exactly the way it is, so true. Hopefully if RUclips takes this video down, remove or edit the part RUclips first disapproves, you please put it back up (after edit) because you really brought the truth forward.

  • @vstrangejames
    @vstrangejames Месяц назад +2

    I will thank Ken Tamplin for bringing me to this channel. New subscriber :D

  • @rudel1950
    @rudel1950 Месяц назад +3

    I couldn't agree more,... well spoken my friend : ) There is a fine line between arrogance and acknowledgement,... it is not the horn which powers the diesel!

  • @KerryLiv
    @KerryLiv Месяц назад +2

    Humility. Honesty. Values so graciously taught in this video.

  • @MSTmike3KVHS
    @MSTmike3KVHS Месяц назад +10

    The proof is in the syncing

    • @scottb721
      @scottb721 Месяц назад

      What are you syncing about? 😂

  • @jonetoshka8652
    @jonetoshka8652 Месяц назад +1

    I’m glad I stumbled upon your channel while binging Ken Tamplin controversy videos. Very entertaining and honest video. Whatever gets you clicks and views, go for it. There’s no shame in that as long as you’re genuine.

  • @andrevuurboom3710
    @andrevuurboom3710 Месяц назад +16

    I'm just flabbergasted that people really think Ken was singing this live, unbelievable... Righthand picking was just out of this world... 😅🤣 Had to pick myself up from the floor laughing

    • @ryanmattie974
      @ryanmattie974 Месяц назад +1

      Yeah that elbow technique is just horrid. His thumb on his left hand is all over the place too. He has zero lead guitar technique.

    • @paulphoad
      @paulphoad Месяц назад +1

      Maybe got this wrong. The lip sych was very obvious and I'm sure Ken didn't really expect anyone to beleive he was actually playing and singing live. ..people aren't that stupid...surely!@@

  • @jpmc9584
    @jpmc9584 Месяц назад +2

    Wonderful video. Great to listen to someone speak with a great understanding of how different vocalists express themselves. Having spent a lot of time in recording studios myself, it's always so easy to detect when a performance is mined, and that's in the direction from where the sound comes. I know that for most people who haven't had that experience of recording could easily be fooled into believing that what they believe to be live really isn't, but not for the trained ear. An example of what I'm talking about was wonderfully demonstrated in the performance of Puddles that you played and who I'd never heard of before but instantly loved. But when you watch and listen to this performance every movement he makes around the microphone whilst singing changes the expression of every word, you don't get that when a performance is pre-recorded and mimed to. REN is another artist who very masterfully demonstrates how playing with a real live vocal performance can express a song in a much greater way as he demonstrates in The Tale Of Jenny And Screech, or Hi REN. So thanks for talking the time to do this video and for introducing Puddles Pity Party, I'm a fan now.

  • @ekew1974
    @ekew1974 Месяц назад +3

    Lip-syncing is not ok given Ken earn a living as a vocal coach....especially when he doesn't disclose that fact either prior or after..... every time he does it.

  • @Spenke
    @Spenke Месяц назад +2

    Great video Devon. Sound, humble, critically thinking and highlights why it’s so important that everyone realise truth when someone’s big ego is trying to bend others to the opposite. The puddles pity party was awesome. It would be really nice to hear your take on Devin Townsend live recording of Kingdom in studio. That take always blow me away. Great video, great things said. Keep up the good work. Cheers from Sweden !

    • @devon-graves-studio-D
      @devon-graves-studio-D  Месяц назад +1

      Devin Townsend is absolutely Godly. I saw something in the sealy 200s called "Safezone" If I remember correct. Live in the studio. Flawless and jaw-dropping.

  • @AussieOutlaw
    @AussieOutlaw Месяц назад +17

    IF he puts a Copyright strike on your Channel you simply put in a dispute, Meatloaf the performer tried to do that for my Video on my channel many years ago , he put his legal team on to me but I refused to back down, that Video has almost a million views to this day

    • @LegendLength
      @LegendLength Месяц назад

      RUclips love putting their climate change fact checks under every video that remotely comes near the topic. Yet they allow Ken to lie and delete comments.

    • @devon-graves-studio-D
      @devon-graves-studio-D  Месяц назад +2

      On what grounds could I dispute? It's already claimed by both Ken AND The Pixies. I won't get any revenue anyway. I heard it is worse to loose a dispute.

    • @HulaHula667
      @HulaHula667 Месяц назад +4

      @@devon-graves-studio-D Fair Use - you’re allowed to use clips of other people’s content for commentary/criticism/illustrate a point. As long as you acknowledged who/where the clips are from you should be fine.

    • @devon-graves-studio-D
      @devon-graves-studio-D  Месяц назад +1

      @@HulaHula667 Thank you!

    • @HulaHula667
      @HulaHula667 Месяц назад +1

      @@devon-graves-studio-D Welcome! 😄

  • @YesOkayButWhy
    @YesOkayButWhy 17 дней назад

    Holy sheesh, Psychotic Waltz! Didn't expect to find you amongst the discourse. Didn't know you had a YT channel. Me and my buddies here in Ireland are PW fans. I guess I'm, at the time of writing, your newest subscriber. Hope you're well, man.

  • @carinaejag
    @carinaejag Месяц назад +12

    So the song is his own and he writes that it is one of the greatest pieces of music ever written? Mind blowing 🤐

    • @cindi1313
      @cindi1313 Месяц назад

      I noticed that too! Whaaaat? 🤦‍♀

  • @ChaseTheHeat
    @ChaseTheHeat Месяц назад +3

    It's 2024. He identifies as a talented musician, singer, and content creator.

  • @MadcapShambleton
    @MadcapShambleton Месяц назад +1

    Devon, this was as thoughtfully and genuinely presented as could be. (Your previous take was good, too.) I only discovered you (and subscribed!) because of the whole "I"m not just Ken, I'm the best Ken ever" story via Wings of Pegasus. I just had a look at The Ken's video (12:45 am EST, Oct. 11/24) and interestingly, there are still 462 comments...yet yours is gone, as are the two that were below it. There are now seven more from two years ago instead, like the rest of them. But what's most striking about that video is that anyone can or should so easily see and hear that his singing and playing is not only not live, it's so laughably faked. For a Christian Metal musician, he seems awfully proud of himself. Perhaps the genre is about living just some of the seven sins instead of all of them.
    I'm off to join the Puddles Pity Party now!

  • @PeteC62
    @PeteC62 Месяц назад +3

    That clip of Tamplin "playing guitar and singing" wasn't even lip-synced. It was lip-out-of-synced.

  • @PaBuzz1
    @PaBuzz1 Месяц назад +2

    Very eloquently put my friend. Thank you

  • @Asphaltheizer
    @Asphaltheizer Месяц назад +25

    Funny, but i can´t find your comment under Ken´s video... Ken, the master-deletererer ?🤣

    • @Peter-42istheAnswer
      @Peter-42istheAnswer Месяц назад +2

      Yeah, that was quick. He must watch everything with a hawk's eye, have people helping him, or some kind of AI doing it. I just hope people continue exposing him this way until he comes clean (IF he ever does). I feel bad for his potential students who haven't heard about all this and buy his material in good faith.

    • @ozzie444
      @ozzie444 Месяц назад +4

      Ken has been very busy the last couple of weeks deleting comments from the videos on his YT channel.....lol

    • @Stemma3
      @Stemma3 Месяц назад +2

      Your comment is gone. Let's see mine.
      It's 11:35am (-3)

    • @Peter-42istheAnswer
      @Peter-42istheAnswer Месяц назад +4

      @@Stemma3 Already gone I'm afraid. Latest comment that shows was 9 days ago. Hawkeye did it again.

    • @devon-graves-studio-D
      @devon-graves-studio-D  Месяц назад +3

      He "hides" these comments. That way the person who posted still sees it. I see it from my own channel, but not from someone else. Sneaky and very deceptive indeed.

  • @WEdHarris
    @WEdHarris Месяц назад +1

    I really enjoyed your commentary on this subject! Well said! I followed this back when Fil (Wing of Pegasus) first did an informative and uncontestable analysis! You are absolutely spot on! Liked and Subbed!

  • @epicduckdoctor
    @epicduckdoctor Месяц назад +5

    My favourite Ken video is the one where he's trapped inside an invisible box.

  • @danieltorrespy
    @danieltorrespy Месяц назад +1

    Thank you Devon. I agree with every point you make here. On a positive note though: I've noticed that sometimes it's a good thing for a vocalist/frontman to have their ego just a tad above the point of equilibrium. Particularly onstage. I've observed good reactions to this playing in a number of bands over the years.

    • @medea27
      @medea27 Месяц назад +1

      It's the difference between a healthy ego & an inflated one... Ken certainly seems to fall in the latter category!

  • @jakenogard9667
    @jakenogard9667 Месяц назад +5

    Great video🤘🤘🤘
    Please exposed this guy Ken Tamplin. He is arrogant and he doesn't deserve all those subscribers he had.

  • @therealzilch
    @therealzilch 28 дней назад +2

    Whatever talents Tamplin has or doesn't have, he's obviously a classical narcissist. As such, he might not even realize he's lying. If you are your own god, then you are by definition right.

  • @moggiee1
    @moggiee1 Месяц назад +4

    So much truth in this vid. Thank you

  • @paulciampo2104
    @paulciampo2104 Месяц назад +4

    Message to Ken: no one cares for perfection - they want soul, passion and authenticity. Things you apparently don't have.

    • @ricomajestic
      @ricomajestic Месяц назад +1

      Would you really listen to someone with a lot of soul but is always off pitch?

    • @paulciampo2104
      @paulciampo2104 Месяц назад

      @@ricomajestic what a strange question in the age of Auto-Tune

    • @ricomajestic
      @ricomajestic Месяц назад +1

      @@paulciampo2104 Real singers don't use auto-tune.

    • @paulciampo2104
      @paulciampo2104 Месяц назад

      @@ricomajestic I know, I was just joking. I think the point of not wanting to hear soulful people who can't sing is just unrealistic. Obviously Ken can sing, but so should someone with soul

  • @gb-bp1me
    @gb-bp1me Месяц назад +2

    Great video. You distilled it down making it easy to understand. Thank you.

  • @tohaason
    @tohaason Месяц назад +10

    Wow. (~ 15 min in) Any guitar player watching two seconds of that can see that the playing doesn't time with the music. And that right hand is just ridiculous.

  • @lastgunman5270
    @lastgunman5270 Месяц назад +1

    Word! And yes, I really love Puddles cover songs!

  • @staex
    @staex Месяц назад +4

    I don’t know a thing about Ken Tamplin, but to every one brought here by this guy: If you‘re interested in great rock music, I recommend Psychotic Waltz. 😊

  • @sharpestcookieinthetoolbox9742
    @sharpestcookieinthetoolbox9742 Месяц назад +2

    One thing I find telling at 15:01 is: Where's the "parrot tongue" maneuver he usually does when he hits a high note with force? You know - like those "HEEEEEEY, YEEEEEEAH" notes he randomly yells? That movement's not happening, because he's not actually hitting the high notes at all. You can see his tongue begin to do it on some notes, then relax more on subsequent "high" notes. I think this is because he's dodging the high notes irl; he's actively avoiding hitting them because he can likely feel the strain coming and sings lower instead.

  • @tk7836
    @tk7836 Месяц назад +5

    Lol, of course, Puddles! 🤣. Cool example, love his version of Holy Diver with Primus. He is legend!

  • @makeyourself1988
    @makeyourself1988 13 дней назад

    I really like this channel. I hope it blows up more

  • @MauiPunter
    @MauiPunter Месяц назад +10

    When I saw Ken slag on Steve Perry and Sting, I was like, what????

  • @j800r_aswell
    @j800r_aswell Месяц назад

    Dude. As far as i'm concerned you have every entitlement to an opinion here. You've proven your chops. Had to double-check you were even the same guy but I LOVED Deadsoul Tribe. Awesome to see you put stuff out like this.

  • @norbertgrams7142
    @norbertgrams7142 Месяц назад +4

    Great Video Brother. Got the point

  • @PeteC62
    @PeteC62 Месяц назад

    Thank you for reminding me about Puddles! I remember his brilliant Mad World cover from years ago, but haven't thought about him since.

  • @PianomanMusic96
    @PianomanMusic96 Месяц назад +6

    I almost spat coffee EVERYWHERE!!! "You love yourself" LOLOLOLOL

  • @ashscott6068
    @ashscott6068 Месяц назад +5

    I think it's disgraceful that he deletes all the negative comments - so he obviously reads them - but he left a comment saying that was a virtuoso guitar performance. He saw it and was like: Well that one is true. I'm leaving that one!

  • @ToddSauve
    @ToddSauve Месяц назад +4

    Proverbs 27: 2 Let someone else praise you, not your own mouth-a stranger, not your own lips.

  • @georgeresso6835
    @georgeresso6835 Месяц назад

    just learned about ur channel via FIL and i think u r the real deal ive heard your performances with dead soul tribe and ayreon and ur voice is killer...and u make many great points

  • @richardmetzler7909
    @richardmetzler7909 Месяц назад +3

    Possibly stupid technical question regarding Puddles' performance (great singing, btw!): how does he get feedback on how the mic picks up what he's singing? I don't see any in-ears. If there's a studio monitor playing it back, how does he avoid audio feedback?

    • @voidio99ify
      @voidio99ify Месяц назад

      I was thinking the same thing..

    • @DizzLexic
      @DizzLexic Месяц назад +3

      I think he has the piano track playing very lightly in the room and uses it as a guide. He is clearly confident enough in his own vocals to sing it all nearly a capella. I have done this myself, in the past and it worked quite well. Also, it is a little simpler when the music track is less percussive.

  • @Solitude54
    @Solitude54 Месяц назад

    Puddles always leave me with a melancholic smile on my face. He is wonderful! 🙏🏻 Now, there is a real singer, from top to toe. 🎤 Ken Tamplin on the other hand… 😵‍💫

  • @aminyakunda
    @aminyakunda Месяц назад +4

    RUclips can be weird sometimes.. I've been listening to Deadsoul Tribe for like fifteen years now, and suddenly YT recommends me Devon's video because of this Ken Tamplin fiasco :]]

    • @jesusislukeskywalker4294
      @jesusislukeskywalker4294 Месяц назад

      companies such as data analytica have socially profiled every user on the internet. they target viewers with loaded content. it all came out back around 2016 with the election over in the USA.

  • @Katatawnic
    @Katatawnic Месяц назад

    I absolutely adore Puddles! One of the purest voices you'll ever hear. I've had many binges, myself. The clown suit did take some getting used to, though. lol
    I love that you used Puddles as an example of what perfect live singing looks like. The way he works the mic is so smooth and subtle that most people wouldn't even consciously notice unless they're looking for it.
    Every singer should strive to reach Puddles' flawless stage presence as well as vocals. (Obviously I'm referring to his execution, not necessarily his style.) Many won't *quite* achieve it, but setting the goal will be incentive to always work on improving.

    • @devon-graves-studio-D
      @devon-graves-studio-D  Месяц назад +2

      The clown suit indeed, but now I wouldn't have him any other way. Unique. That is the hardest thing. To be unique.

  • @alanhetland1572
    @alanhetland1572 Месяц назад +7

    He reminds me of David Koresh

    • @devon-graves-studio-D
      @devon-graves-studio-D  Месяц назад

      I have a song about following faith leaders to your doom. It's called "Regret". The first verse is about his cult. The second about Marshall Applewhite and the third about Jim Jones. I will post a (real) live in-the.studio acoustic version shortly.

  • @mikelachey824
    @mikelachey824 Месяц назад +2

    Shouldnt be your last word. Guys like this should be held accountable for the fraud they grift

  • @PascalRemans
    @PascalRemans Месяц назад +4

    How a guy like Ken can speak so highly of himself, remains a mystery to me! Deep inside, probably a very insecure person! Voila, haha 😂

  • @eddiehewie
    @eddiehewie Месяц назад +1

    Man, your so right........Ken wants everyone to be Ken, and anyone else isn't good enough.

  • @pesjp8244
    @pesjp8244 Месяц назад +6

    your comment has indeed been deleted. and the latest comment praising his guitar playing and singing is probably one of his many alt accounts where he showers himself with compliments again

    • @devon-graves-studio-D
      @devon-graves-studio-D  Месяц назад

      I still see it there, but I didn't get my little ❤ reply like everyone else. Maybe he didn't see it yet.

    • @spajdude
      @spajdude Месяц назад

      @@devon-graves-studio-D Your comment has been hidden from everyone else but you, so called shadow banning. Go to that video without being logged in and you'll see that it's gone.

    • @toria-j
      @toria-j Месяц назад +3

      @@devon-graves-studio-D he may have hidden your comments - you would see it but no one else can. try opening the page in a private tab.

    • @pesjp8244
      @pesjp8244 Месяц назад

      @@devon-graves-studio-D you see it but it was shadow banned for everybody else by ken. nobody but you can see your comment

  • @billsybainbridge3362
    @billsybainbridge3362 Месяц назад +1

    You made some salient points, and thanks for including a portion of the live video singing to contrast. There's a larger point to be made though that I'm afraid Ken may have fallen victim to: the desperation that many people feel to "overblow their horns" because of the pressures of Social Media, and the Parasocial Dysfunction that feeds it. It's heavy to consider the last, but it perfectly encompasses the huge fault in our social fabric that is tearing apart our planet, in nearly every context.

  • @kdr955
    @kdr955 Месяц назад +4

    I don’t know anything about recording music, and I know he’s miming.

  • @BuckeyeIn541
    @BuckeyeIn541 Месяц назад

    Your analysis is spot on and pitch perfect in tone and tenor. Anyone who's ever spent time tracking live in a studio or with an intuitive sense of optics and sound would understand any notion that Tamplin's vox/instr performance in that clip isnt lip syncd /mimed is patently absurd..cartoonish levels.

  • @musick777
    @musick777 Месяц назад +3

    Not to mention you would hear some of the picking and strumming of the electric guitar if that mic were turned on.

  • @OvercookedOctopusFeet
    @OvercookedOctopusFeet 23 дня назад +1

    An intelligent critique.

  • @dreamtheaterstryper
    @dreamtheaterstryper Месяц назад +6

    Another great one! Thanks 🙏. But why are you and Fil saying „that’s definitely my last one on this subject“ - why shutting a door while it‘s entertaining as f*^%!? Please do more on it!
    What I think is mindblowing is the fact that Ken hangs his being a Christian and a missionary man for Christ while obviously the Bible tells not to lie, to be humble and pne should not exalt oneself and not think too highly of oneself. Ken missed all that obviously!
    And why is he always so hyper actively overacting? WTF. That’s not energy that must be some kind of hyperthyroidism (or white powder?)
    Man, man, man… phew 😅
    But thank you very much on this well crafted video and the mention of the white clown singing - that one is awesome… I‘m gonna check him out on RUclips!
    Keep it up Devon!

    • @Jonkerz77
      @Jonkerz77 Месяц назад +3

      I´d much rather see more of Devons creative output, than to have him join in on bashing some guy who has already lost all credibility. No need to keep kicking Ken, in my opinion!
      If you enjoy that kind of stuff I´m sure there are other channels out there to scratch that itch.

    • @dreamtheaterstryper
      @dreamtheaterstryper Месяц назад +1

      @@Jonkerz77 😄 You‘ve got a point here and I agree! But sometimes seeing Karma hitting just makes me giggle!

    • @devon-graves-studio-D
      @devon-graves-studio-D  Месяц назад +6

      Hey, thanks for the encouragement! I don't have any more to add to the discussion. I deliberately held off on calling him out on his Christianity and the implications thereof, but believe me, it was tempting.

  • @wadesworld6250
    @wadesworld6250 18 дней назад +1

    "Playing guitar and singing is really hard." Geddy Lee says "hold my beer." (Bass, synth, Taurus pedals, vocals)

  • @timdhudson
    @timdhudson Месяц назад +4

    Anyone ever notice you never see Devon and Puddles in the same room at the same time?! Hmmmm? 🤔

  • @lavalizard1
    @lavalizard1 Месяц назад

    Refreshing to hear such an intelligent critique and references to musical context. I’m glad KT has exposed your channel to folks - you’ve got another vocalist subscriber as a result. Cheers.

  • @RaffaelWindgassen
    @RaffaelWindgassen Месяц назад +14

    Did Ken really state he's better than Prince on guitar???🤣

    • @karenglenn6707
      @karenglenn6707 Месяц назад +3

      Oh he’s the best guitarist in the world 🤣 Didn’t you know??

    • @ricomajestic
      @ricomajestic Месяц назад +4

      Prince is just ok on guitar! He wasn't an innovator or a virtuoso on guitar!

    • @danij5055
      @danij5055 Месяц назад +5

      @@ricomajestic I think everyone can agree that Ken and Prince play on two different levels 😉

    • @RaffaelWindgassen
      @RaffaelWindgassen Месяц назад

      I would actually like to hear that myself, do these Videos still exist?

    • @ricomajestic
      @ricomajestic Месяц назад +1

      @@danij5055 Well Prince is a great songwriter and ken isn't it. Ken is a guitar shredder if you check his live videos from the 80s and prince is more blues oriented. Prince is not Van Halen or Hendrix and was not a big influence on guitarists!

  • @Tinuvielthefair
    @Tinuvielthefair Месяц назад

    I actually like that you're kind in your criticisms.
    Don't pull punches, but don't bring kind. You seem to be a beautiful. Make music, and hearts happy. Music can change the world. :)