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Come on. I was trying to be Paul D’Anno. True story from Buddy

Again very informative video In my earlier comment I mentioned to pay for the help😅

Great videos Do you ever help people setup their studio I am looking for someone knowledgeable to help me I have c24 with older Mac a lot of outboard and a Amek console arrrgh just wondering Great videos 🎉😊

I will stay with my 4.1 system. Purchase a great set of front LR speakers. Dump the centre channel. Get an ok Rear RL speakers and a good sub that is all you need. People forget that the only reason for the centre channel is the anchor speech to the screen for those that are sitting to the far left and right such as in a big theatre. We for the most part don't need that in our homes. We don't need to listen to those horrible sounding horn speakers in the theatre where DB is all that matters. We can do so much better in our homes. So the next level after Atmos would be what. How many stupid speakers are we going to "need". How about a sub for each speaker? And a buttkicker in your chairs to "enhance" those supper lows. Wait a minute each speaker should also have lights that can be controlled also to mimic the lighting of what was going on. Things are gone stupid insane.

Apple is just the devil. Nothing but making people spend more and more money. Time to dump them. They are the 1984 that they were so against back in the day. Look at what the EU has forced them to change.

Atmos is a dead 🦜 Don't get fooled! 😠

I'm still using my PT10 which I got in 2016. When my computer died in 2022, I found a similar one on ebay for $50. All I had to do was move my harddrives to the new computer and I was good to go. I guess I'll stay with this system for as long as I can

Owning is king , operating off line is going to end up being the long lasting winner!! THEY CAN NOT SHUT US DOWN !! AI IS GOING TO DESTROY ALL THESE NEW SYSTEMS !!! THOSE WHO HOLD OUT AND DO NOT SHED THEIR EQUIPMENT WILL BE THE ONES LEFT ABLE TO TRULY RECORD!!!!

I do realise there is actual atmos music. But really it is a cinema audio format. I love Atmos for my movies and I have the speakers above where they are meant to be, none of this upfiring which does not give you true atmos. Sure some artists could mix in atmos, or even 5.1 audio but essentially these are cinema audio formats. Sure some music can sound good that way but again mostly music sounds better in stereo. What I am saying if you are using the bouncing off the walls and ceilings you are not hearing actual atmos, it is NOT a true representation of the sound format (Atmos). Also for you to say 5.1 etc never took off..I respectfully disagree. Many people nowadays have an atmos or 5.1 home cinema set up. Including myself. BTW I can make my music into 5.1, I don't have the software to create an atmos track for my music (yes I am a musician too). I have to add this too, yes 3D tvs fell off the face of the earth but the older audio sound formats have almost disappeared off the face of the earth, for a completely different reason, it is simply progression.. ....the reason barely any one uses pro logic (which you needed to be receiving a nicam stereo signal to your reveicer, to get pro logic at the time), is progression. As after original pro logic, they got it better, so then dolby digital comes along, then HD audio formats over taken dolby digital with true HD and HD master audio. Now it's Atmos, which like the pro logic needing a nicam signal, the atmos needs that HD mster audio or Dolby true HD to get. Atmos is inbedded into these HD audo fromats BTW. But all these older audo formats did not drop off the face of the earth, it is simply progression, that is all it is. We have come a long way in home cinema audio formats since the pro logic days. BTW I also have the night of the opera Blu ray audio, I also have the DVD audio disc. It sounds great, the voices in the prohets song is amazing. Also war of the worlds jeff wayne SACD sounds great that way. The brothers in arms SACD by dire straits sounds absolutely brilliant....All of those contain mullti channel audio tracks and I love listening to them. BTW albeit we slightly disagree on some things you picked up a sub ;) A sound person like myself I am interested in watching your vidz. Oh and what do I think, Atmos is not a gimmick, if done correctly it gives another dimension to your sound and I noticed it straight away when I heard it. Not only is it surround sound, it is just like going outside, When you are outside you are aware of sounds coming from above you not just around you. So it gives an additional presence in the room, which I love. But all in all it is a hit and miss with music. It is just better for movies, which is hardly surprising as Atmos is actually a cinema sound format. P.S I have atmos and it is set up correctly, it sounds brilliant. Bouncing off the walls is not a true representation of the sound format.

I've never understood why people use Pro Tools... until now.

You do not need to upload atmos in order to upload a normal lossless track on spotify or apple.. That is untrue

Hey bro does the C24 work worh protools 10.9.5

C24 is a great console. Only reason I sold mine was you could not run HUI and Eucon at the same time. Other then that I would have kept it.

You have the best breakdown videos with pro tools, thank you so much new subscriber

Hello sir, are you still active? This is a great video BTW

I use a C24 with a Mac mini M1 with the latest version of PT. I have to open PT under Rosetta to fully use the c24 and uncheck the Eucon controller. It's an amazing desk, pretty much like a real console. Previously, I had a Command 8 but I barely use it since I've had only 8 faders. Now, with 24 faders, I use it all the time. Making automation with real fader instead the mouse is awesome!! I don't use the analogue part of the c24 because I have several pre-amp better than those on the c24. I just wish to use the talback function like "auto talk back" but I have to integrate it to my Apollo's system. Sometimes, I forget to open or close talk back so this function will be very interesting for me. Any way, I love my c24 😍! 😃

Crazy how fast time goes by, I still play the early stuff in my truck cruising down the road I just cried watching this video

Pretty interesting take on hiphop. Do you really think hip-hop is about "gangsters surrounding you and threatening you"?

I'd take a D command over C24

While I agree with some of your points, the fact is that if you do actually have a proper multi-speaker setup, it is a superior experience. And I used to be a devoted 2-channel guy. Maybe go onto Audioholics and hear what they have to say...

Dude, I just discovered your channel about 30 minutes ago. This is the second video I've been through you and I'm highly enjoying your content. I've been shaking out my boots about Atmos and thinking that I need to go back to Fullsail lol just for the free classes again, which is one benefit they gave you, but I totally agree unless you're doing something like Pink Floyd or just one of my favorite bands ever ever this technology is probably gonna be useless and it is trying to be us as away for the elitist to take over. I've worked on many great films in my lifetime Lord of the rings, Batman, animated series, etc., etc. and recorded many good albums and I never needed Atmos so honestly, I don't think I need it now . Before hearing this, I must admit I was absolutely terrified.

Dude, I just discovered your channel about 30 minutes ago. This is the second video I've been through you and I'm highly enjoying your content. I've been shaking out my boots about Atmos and thinking that I need to go back to Fullsail lol just for the free classes again, which is one benefit they gave you, but I totally agree unless you're doing something like Pink Floyd or just one of my favorite bands ever ever this technology is probably gonna be useless and it is trying to be us as away for the elitist to take over. I've worked on many great films in my lifetime Lord of the rings, Batman, animated series, etc., etc. and recorded many good albums and I never needed Atmos so honestly, I don't think I need it now . Before hearing this, I must admit I was absolutely terrified.

Hell yeah, you think just like me, man I'm stuck on ProTools eight but you know what I've been able to invest all my money into great microphones and great fucking preamps and let me tell you something great preamps and obviously microphones to make a difference. Every year we have a couple of features that I want, but you know what I'll live without them. If I have to as long as I can, my computer and combination with my interface and software is a combination that cannot get voca-lign which happens to be my favorite plug-in ever but you know what I'm doing mostly metal and I'm gonna have to live with it for a bit. In the end, though I can record a solid 40 tracks which is way more than what I need and I don't need to plug and unplug things just because of the fact that I reinvested in another 192 system the other day, lol I do want to eventually get to at least ProTools 10 in order to do so, I will need to upgrade my computer my software, but at least I don't have to upgrade the interface. In the end, my Old School system is better than most peoples modern systems..

I still have my sacd 5.1 Nine inch nails album from around 2000’. It was awesome on my home theater back then. I was actually hoping trent would be making Atmos content since he is usually experimenting with whatever is available. I think certain music might be more exciting to mix in atmos like electronic or pop where you can get a little more creative maybe with how you use sounds than say a typical band might be mixed. I have a basic atmos setup now with 2 height channels and im working on a decent 7.2.4 setup now. As far as I understand it 7.4 plus 1 or 2 sub channels would be the standard for music and film. But Im really liking some albums already and it’s not even setup the best right now so I cant wait to hear things in 7.2.4 when my new system is completed.

Dude speaking bars.... I heard of atmos but I am just barely getting into it. I came to the same conclusion as you are right now. I am lucky enough to have the space for a 5.2 system. Yes 5.2 as I have to martin logan 8 inch subs. I guess this is great for marketing and extracting money from people. As you said, you really need to space and it makes the most sense in a large venue.

Yea I think atmos would be good for movie theater or a planetarium

Thanks for this video, I have a studio in Brazil with a C24 and this is so helpfull, many thing I didn't know it could do. Cheers

Its called convertion....I have an atmos system..you don;t have to "bounce" sound off the walls. My system still converts everything back to stereo....I don't understand your argument.

You really need to get Steinberg Cubase.

ATMOS might be the bees knees for theatrical audio, but I can't see how it is anything but snake oil for stereo music reproduction. The time delay nightmare of sound reflected off the ceiling seems impossible to correct. How can these systems possibly accommodate for the infinite number of unpredictable variables in the three dimensional geometry of rooms?

I'm so irritated by the guys who make videos like Neve vs API preamps but actually compare clones. Thank you for comparing the actual NEVE!

This is brilliant!! Remember the BOSE reflection speaker systems?? But I'm wondering if the whole ATMOS "scam" isn't really an "Immersive" experience, it's just an "expensive" one!! Your ears hear all around you, but music, well, you have ONE PAIR of ears. As in ONE PAIR of eyes, you can't see behind you head without moving or turning your head, as with music is best and only with the ONE PAIR of you ears. ATMOS dosen't make sense, unless you look at the reason behind it. These companies want to control us, not help us. Sit at home, never leave the listening room, and spend money, ordering everything... Sound is just vibration, while music is organized, creative vibration.

Music of Deadsoul Tribe holds a magical place in the memories of my youth. Both the lyrics and the sound were mesmerizing. More than ten years have passed since those days, but I still return to this music - "Just Like a Timepiece" sounds simply magical and really takes you far away from everyday life. Just today, I stumbled upon your channel, and I am very glad to see that you are active on social media, alive, and well. I wish you creative inspirations, tranquility, satisfaction, and peace of mind!

This is a really great controller. It is really ergonomic, and workflow fast. It is sad that AVID refuse to make it work natively with Silicon Macs ! A real Shame from AVID !

First class presentation as usual. Well worth the wait! Has given me a much clearer understanding of the C24. Thanks so much for taking the time to do this tutorial. Cheers!!

My concern is how long will the hui drivers work with the constant updates made to PT and computers.. will avid atleast make controller drivers for the C24

How does the C24 integrate with the most current version of PT????

I always loved the C24 however with some hardware going unsupported by Avid I thought it wasn’t a good investment for a small studio like mine. But always wanted a C24, nice piece of gear 😊

After years of lusting for one I picked one up for $500 a few months back, in near new condition, one of the later models sold, a revision M. I upgraded from PT11 to latest PT Studio 2024.3 as it still works on Windows with the latest native plugins. The integration is 2nd to none IMO. Neyrink V-Control lets me use it with other DAWs ,my primary DAW of choice is Nuendo and it's pretty good, better than an MCU with lots of configurable soft keys & the meter bridge & big counter work too which is really nice. Excellent video Devon

Binging your video at small paces while at work and gotta say: wish Avid never discontinued this unit in the first place. It’s amazing!!

i live in the attic 5x4 meter and 2.5 meters angled high room filled with 9.1 sistem . using music decoder from 2.0 audio to 9.1. but its hard eq~ed to sound good for music.

Yes, 1073 sounds slightly more cleae and open in highs. But my conclusion of the video is that anyone with a decent interface can make a record sound good if he knows what he is doing. You made a “cheap” interface sound close to a neve and that’s amazing.

This is a brilliant premise but I have an Audient and came to figure out if I need a neve (as title suggests) and this doesn’t help unfortunately- so wish you showed that at same time without rest of chain. Nice singing.

Is bae 1073 better than ams neve 1073

Thank you Devon for this brilliant guide! I followed the steps and now have a 3 card (2 core cards and an accel) PT HD 10 setup on 10.7.5 lion that I’m very happy with! Just out of interest would there be any other virtual instruments that you would recommend that are compatible? Many thanks.

I LOVE Pro Tools and I hate to spend 400$ each year to get it up to date. But I am damn fast on it. I could use Logic, Digital Performer, Cubase, Reaper, Studio One or Ableton Live and I would be happy, but not as fast. I still have my HD3 with I/Os somewhere in my basement, just in case, that I payed somewhat 20k $ and I can't sell for 700... And I now mix on my M1Pro laptop... If I had to choose a different one it would be Digital Performer.

You should try DMSD decouplers for your Speakers.

Hey, i know its a little off topic, but does anybody know why all the old Psychotic Waltz stuff got taken down from Spotify?

1 of my fave PW tracks!

I look at dolby Atmos, DTX, 360 audio in the same light as Quadraphonic Laser Discs, Mini Disc what is new today, is in the footnote in the electronic world tomorrow.,